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KA24DESOneThree

09-14-2020, 11:22 AM

The difference there is in the facts.

A Trump supporter is not a racist, Bigot or Nazi. If fact ya'll have to make up hate crimes to try and prove America is racist.

A member of Antifa IS a Communist..

A member of BLM IS a Communist...

They both actively advocate the dismantling of the America way of life. Both advocate violence and disruption... "No Justice, No Peace"

This is in their very mission statements. The both embrace the ideas of socialism and communism and actively lobby for it. It's not a conspiracy, it's not a strawman, it's not an extreme example.

A Trump supporter can be a racist, bigoted Nazi.

A Trump supporter is, more often than not, not those things- at least not beyond supporting a xenophobic, suicidal cabal with known white nationalist advisors. A Trump supporter may not support big government, but supports a candidate who has made the government debt bigger almost to farcical levels. A Trump supporter may not support 2A restrictions, but supports a candidate who enacted more gun control than Obama. A Trump supporter may not support infidelity, but supports a candidate who has been unfaithful. A Trump supporter may hate Twitter, but supports a candidate who averages dozens of tweets per day. A Trump supporter may value honesty, but supports a candidate who has been untruthful tens of thousands of times from candidacy to current.

An anti-fascist is a communist? There is no "Antifa" as an organization. There are anti-fascist organizations, but there is no "Antifa" like there is BLM.

I'm anti-fascist, and I'm not a communist. I would argue that most people are anti-fascist... until they meet one they like.

I believe black lives matter, but I'm not a communist. I agree that the founders of BLM have leftist leanings and believe in communities taking care of themselves. I also believe in communities taking care of themselves- helps to reduce the size of government.

No justice, no peace? Peace doesn't just mean the lack of violence, it also means "freedom from civil disturbance," "harmony in personal relations," and "to keep silent or quiet."

You think of violence because you equate antifa and BLM with violence. I equate the government with violence. I equate the government with oppression. I equate the government with racial subjugation. Anti-fascists and BLM protesters don't have a monopoly on use of force. They aren't immune from prosecution. The government, typically speaking, does and is.

I like Jo but she's not enough. Also, she looks like a female version of Eddie Marsan and it weirds me out.

Future240

09-14-2020, 11:30 AM

Jo Jorgensen 2020. You guys and your political parties are basically cultists. You realize this right?

LET HER F'n Debate.

I could find next to nothing on this lady.

While it is pointless in this election., I feel it is important the libertarian party keep trying. The two party system in America is fucked.

For a lot of us elections are boiled down to vote for the person you despise the least.

S14rebuild

09-14-2020, 11:41 AM

What is wrong with you

Nothing........

Are u ok?

kingkilburn

09-14-2020, 12:24 PM

We don't need a third party. We need no parties at all and elections controlled by the government (of/by/for The People) rather than a pair of private organizations trying consolidate control through limiting public input.

I'm tired of both parties resisting ranked choice voting, public funding being the only legal funding for campaigns, mandatory debates, mandatory background and finance disclosures, etc.

Factionalism is fucking stupid.

deolio

09-14-2020, 12:49 PM

While it is pointless in this election.

People say this about a third party EVERY SINGLE ELECTION. If every Republican who hates Trump and every Democrat who hate peados would just vote Libertarian, Jo would win.

S14rebuild

09-14-2020, 01:40 PM

Sleepy joe.... lmao

kingkilburn

09-14-2020, 02:30 PM

If you think Jo is the best option then cast that ballot.

But wouldn't it be great to have ranked choice, no party affiliation, and potentially a no confidence vote to force another election.

zombiewolf513

09-15-2020, 05:07 AM

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1305689964911394822?s=20

W-what happened to Joe?

SupaDoopa

09-15-2020, 08:12 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#:~:text=Godwin's%20law%20(or%20Godw in's%20rule,Nazis%20or%20Hitler%20approaches%201%2 2.

It's okay. It's just like everything else today. When you run out of intelligent things to say, just call the other party a nazi or a racist and you seem like you've somehow pulled out a TKO from your back pocket.

Saying stupid shit like that because of your skin color in contrast to mine is honestly sad. Politics now is who can secretly get the most money for doing nothing, who can call the other groups racist more and who can create the most hype out of shit that's been happening since the dawn of time.

You're a racist nazi. Did I win yet? I must've because according to your logic, it works.

inopsey

09-15-2020, 10:15 AM

Nothing........

Are u ok?
............... no there is something seriously wrong with you

Future240

09-15-2020, 12:00 PM

It's okay. It's just like everything else today. When you run out of intelligent things to say, just call the other party a nazi or a racist and you seem like you've somehow pulled out a TKO from your back pocket.

Saying stupid shit like that because of your skin color in contrast to mine is honestly sad. Politics now is who can secretly get the most money for doing nothing, who can call the other groups racist more and who can create the most hype out of shit that's been happening since the dawn of time.

You're a racist nazi. Did I win yet? I must've because according to your logic, it works.

Dude wtf are you talking about?

I posted an article saying the longer a online convo goes on the more likely hitler/nazis come up.

I didn't say anything about skin color.

Corbic

09-15-2020, 12:12 PM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200915/d0f708ff5d863123de9e3b246dbe7c46.jpg

SupaDoopa

09-15-2020, 01:22 PM

Dude wtf are you talking about?

I posted an article saying the longer a online convo goes on the more likely hitler/nazis come up.

I didn't say anything about skin color.

I tagged the wrong person. I apologize. That was directed towards the reverse biggot who thinks calling others racist and nazis because he's failing to win an argument is a valid response. The Mr. Popo dude who idolizes a character in which another nation is using that to poke fun at a whole race of people by literally painting him black and making him a servant of others. Real smart cookie there.

kingkilburn

09-15-2020, 07:33 PM

You think
A. Bigots are white people that don't like black people
B. I'm a black person that doesn't like white people
C. That makes me a bizarro reverse bigot

Truly, an genius.

kingkilburn

09-15-2020, 07:34 PM

You think
A. Bigots are white people that don't like black people
B. I'm a black person that doesn't like white people
C. That makes me a bizarro reverse bigot

Truly, an genius.

zombiewolf513

09-16-2020, 01:20 AM

https://twitter.com/DailyCaller/status/1305689964911394822?s=20

W-what happened to Joe?

https://twitter.com/bSmithMagic/status/1305933594725175296?s=20

Joe did it too. I guess they really are gonna try to clip joe 2 months in, if that, and shove harris in potus spot

SupaDoopa

09-16-2020, 09:26 AM

You think
A. Bigots are white people that don't like black people
B. I'm a black person that doesn't like white people
C. That makes me a bizarro reverse bigot

Truly, an genius.

A. Your comments prior reverting to the fact that those who do not agree are nazis or racists. There is a pretty long history in the past pages - I'm not going to waste my time quoting them all.

B. I didn't say just whites but you're definitely acting as if everyone else should blow you because apparently we weren't lucky enough to be born African American or unlucky or whatever. I'm not sure how to really approach that without you being able to spin that off as me being a bigot even though I'm rather the opposite. But apparently the world should repay you for the suffering of your past generations and the string of police brutality regardless of the fact that this sort of shit has been happening since the dawn of time to any and all races. It must be a real treat picking specific cases of white-on-black incidents to plaster all over media until we learn all the fun details. It takes all the wind out of the sails. No one deserves to be abused or killed or treated differently for the color of their skin. This means you or I shouldn't be put on a pedestal or put in the low-level chairs. We are equals. Your life means no more or less than mine because of our outer appearances. When the world finally realizes this shit and stops trying to fuel politically-fueled agendas to push specific people into power, we will be better for it. This type of activity is also brainwashing young, brainless people into thinking that society owes you a debt of some kind. Instead of trying to make a positive impact in the world, we're too busy highlighting all the shit we're doing wrong and burning shit to the ground. I'm all for protesting and shit but honestly, what the fuck is wrong with people.

C. Yes.

SupaDoopa

09-16-2020, 09:27 AM

https://twitter.com/bSmithMagic/status/1305933594725175296?s=20

Joe did it too. I guess they really are gonna try to clip joe 2 months in, if that, and shove harris in potus spot

How the fuck are you going to go on national television and basically out yourself like that? I can't wait to run in 4 years.

kingkilburn

09-16-2020, 09:33 AM

The best parts of your arguments are where you rewrite history to justify being a complete fucking idiot as if everyone isn't reading the same text.

SupaDoopa

09-16-2020, 10:30 AM

Your responses embody a plethora of knowledge and your constructive input is extraordinary.

I guess for every post with any sort of rationality, I'll just start responding "you're a complete fucking idiot because your face is dumb." That'll show 'em. Learning from the best.

kingkilburn

09-16-2020, 12:15 PM

I've been giving you asshats rational and factual arguments for literally years. Now your feelings are hurt that I'm playing your game. lol

KA24DESOneThree

09-16-2020, 05:12 PM

This is politics, tho.

Rational and factual arguments aren't even used to line the bird cage. R and D aren't subscribed to rational and factual, they get Cat Fancy and Us Weekly and Teen Vogue. It's all about adherence to the Party, and to thine own Party be true.

God save the queen, we mean it, man. We love our queen, god saves.

Future240

09-17-2020, 08:07 AM

If only our politicians were this base

https://www.newsweek.com/why-chris-rock-blames-nancy-pelosi-democrats-coronavirus-trump-1532544

Future240

09-17-2020, 08:26 AM

If only our politicians were this base

https://www.newsweek.com/why-chris-rock-blames-nancy-pelosi-democrats-coronavirus-trump-1532544

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 08:38 AM

If only our politicians were this base

https://www.newsweek.com/why-chris-rock-blames-nancy-pelosi-democrats-coronavirus-trump-1532544

That is the biggest bunch of shit ever.

Which yes men from the Democratic orbit actually had trump's ear?? Not a single democrat or Pelosi. If you didn't suck trump's dick, you were banished.

P.S The Senate and mitch (well, Fox News) has much more control over things the president does than the House. So so much for co-equal branches.....

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 10:43 AM

If only our politicians were this base

https://www.newsweek.com/why-chris-rock-blames-nancy-pelosi-democrats-coronavirus-trump-1532544

Did he not hear the Woodward tapes??

KA24DESOneThree

09-17-2020, 12:49 PM

That's why Chris Rock is Chris Rock and Dave Chappelle is Dave Chappelle.

Trump is a five-year-old. He needs to be herded around and he needs to be fed good opinions. No one near him can do this in the best interests of the country.

We're supposed to have checks and balances. One is static, the other dynamic. One depends on the power of the judiciary, the other the power of the representatives. But a two-party system requires representatives to play nice or lose their job- rather than actually serve their constituents.

What do Trump supporters (and Trump Haters) think of this chart:
https://i.imgur.com/aQzPyCb.png

It's just as bullshit as anything else. The methodology is wack and the creator was biased. But someone built it and it's been seen by more than 15k people, of whom few understand data analytics (and I certainly don't).

This is part of the problem- we see things presented to us and we trust them. We see numbers from Trump and we trust them. We see numbers from Biden and we trust them. We see huge jumps in something from year to year and we get scared... until we realize that the scale is off or one of the axes intentionally distorts data.

SimpleS14

09-17-2020, 12:53 PM

If only our politicians were this base

https://www.newsweek.com/why-chris-rock-blames-nancy-pelosi-democrats-coronavirus-trump-1532544

I'd get fully on-board with this opinion if Dems controlled the House and Senate, but that's currently not the case. Can't completely ignore the actions (or in-actions) of the Republican majority Senate. Along with the enablers in the current administration and parts of the Republican party (state & local reps.).

SupaDoopa

09-17-2020, 02:40 PM

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 02:59 PM

You want the Dems to control the country? Say good by to your constitutional rights, say hello to paying for half of you fucking bums who blame the President for your lazy ass being home banking government checks then cutting them down because the deficit is sky rocketing.

No fucking SHIT the unemployment spiked. No fucking SHIT the deficit spiked. The Dems just gave fucking everyone free money to stay home [at one point, they were making nearly the same money as I was while I was at work 50+ hours a week]. You know how fucked the Dems are? Let me show you.

https://nypost.com/2020/08/01/rhode-island-residents-get-checks-signed-walt-disney-and-mickey-mouse/

Or maybe, just maybe, the minimum and living wage have such a delta this is what you get?? I guaran-fucking-tee, the minimum wage couldn't even get you an in-out burger.......much less pay rent in CA.

Every other country in the free world had the government subsidized not only the workers, but the companies, provided proper PPEs, proper healthcare and guess what?? They are all going back to work, opening schools and getting back to day to day without having to do Herd "Mentality" (whatever the fuck that is)

We can even get PPE distrubution right...The admin literally undermined its own fucking people, Yet, it's the dems faullt??

The USPS had a plan to send 5 reusable facemarks to every household in early April. Even had a press release ready.

The White House blocked the plan.

?There was concern...that households receiving masks might create concern or panic."
https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-po...s-amazon-foia/

dbeiler

09-17-2020, 03:33 PM

You would quote the washit on post. The most biased publication available outside of North Korea. Anyone who quotes the Shit on post instantly loses all credibility.

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 03:47 PM

You would quote the washit on post. The most biased publication available outside of North Korea. Anyone who quotes the Shit on post instantly loses all credibility.

So you take issue with the post, but not the fact that the president undermine his own people??

And we wonder why we are in this shit.......and why we will be in this shit for atleast for the forseable future....

Here, I will do one better. This is directly from a special adviser to the president/Pence from the DHS

https://twitter.com/RVAT2020/status/1306686243422511108?s=20

The president literally undermined the UNITED States citizens...

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 03:51 PM

Here, I will even post the pictures

https://www.roadraceautox.com/img/bowlcut/EiIGzVGX0AApiEF-l.jpg

Some top administration officials even hoped to tap the mail service’s vast network — and its unrivaled ability to reach every U.S. Zip code — to help Americans obtain personal protective equipment. The idea originated out of the Department of Health and Human Services, which suggested a pack of five reusable masks be sent to every residential address in the country, with the first shipments going to the hardest-hit areas.

At the time, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had been working on coronavirus guidance that recommended face coverings, a reversal of its previous position, in the face of mounting evidence that people could spread the coronavirus without experiencing symptoms. The Postal Service prepared for the possibility it might be deputized in the effort, drawing up a news release touting that it was “uniquely suited” to help. The service specifically identified Orleans and Jefferson parishes in Louisiana as the first areas to receive face coverings, with deliveries shortly thereafter to King County, Wash.; Wayne County, Mich.; and New York, according to the newly unearthed document, which is labeled a draft.

Before the news release was sent, however, the White House nixed the plan, according to senior administration officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share internal deliberations. Instead, HHS created Project America Strong, a $675 million effort to distribute “reusable cotton face masks to critical infrastructure sectors, companies, healthcare facilities, and faith-based and community organizations across the country.” About 600 million of the 650 million masks ordered have been distributed, according to an HHS spokesperson, including 125 million set aside for schools.

“There was concern from some in the White House Domestic Policy Council and the office of the vice president that households receiving masks might create concern or panic,” one administration official said in response to the scrapped mask plan.

kingkilburn

09-17-2020, 03:52 PM

I love how Republicans can't point to any left leaning policy that is specifically somehow bad. It's only ever that "say goodbye" bullshit. It's not the fucking 80d dude. Find some new shit.

I'd love to actually be able to engage in meaningful debate about the shit but there discourse never rises beyond middle school tribalism.

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 03:55 PM

Here, I will even post pics

Some top administration officials even hoped to tap the mail service?s vast network ? and its unrivaled ability to reach every U.S. Zip code ? to help Americans obtain personal protective equipment. The idea originated out of the Department of Health and Human Services, which suggested a pack of five reusable masks be sent to every residential address in the country, with the first shipments going to the hardest-hit areas.

At the time, the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention had been working on coronavirus guidance that recommended face coverings, a reversal of its previous position, in the face of mounting evidence that people could spread the coronavirus without experiencing symptoms. The Postal Service prepared for the possibility it might be deputized in the effort, drawing up a news release touting that it was ?uniquely suited? to help. The service specifically identified Orleans and Jefferson parishes in Louisiana as the first areas to receive face coverings, with deliveries shortly thereafter to King County, Wash.; Wayne County, Mich.; and New York, according to the newly unearthed document, which is labeled a draft.

Before the news release was sent, however, the White House nixed the plan, according to senior administration officials, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to share internal deliberations. Instead, HHS created Project America Strong, a $675 million effort to distribute ?reusable cotton face masks to critical infrastructure sectors, companies, healthcare facilities, and faith-based and community organizations across the country.? About 600 million of the 650 million masks ordered have been distributed, according to an HHS spokesperson, including 125 million set aside for schools.

?There was concern from some in the White House Domestic Policy Council and the office of the vice president that households receiving masks might create concern or panic,? one administration official said in response to the scrapped mask plan.

dbeiler

09-17-2020, 04:00 PM

So you take issue with the post, but not the fact that the president undermine his own people??

When have I defended the President? Have I praised his "ability to undermine his own people", or is that just you putting words in my mouth?

Yes, I have an issue with the Washington Post and anyone who uses it for anything other than toilet paper. Show me a Post article written with a single shred of journalistic integrity and I'll show you my 13" penis.

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 04:07 PM

EDIT. See below.....

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 04:08 PM

EDIT. See below.....

kingkilburn

09-17-2020, 04:09 PM

Why on Earth would any sane person have such an emotional response to a company they don't own and a product they don't buy?

Who gives a fuck what avenue the information was gotten through, is the information valid and correct? Basic shit, man.

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 04:16 PM

I have posted both about the Woodward videos, and several items to prove the current admin (and in particular trump himself) undermined the US citizens in regards to the Covid 19 response. If you are taking issue with a single article from the post, but NOT with how this admin was single handedly fucked over our people, then yeah, I do not need to put words in your mouth....

So the Post is just reporting on a FOIA request.

So regardless of your issues with the post and journalistic integrity, they are literally just the messenger.......Isn't that what journalism is all about?? Post just the "facts" and let the people come to their own conclusion.

So yeah don't shoot the messenger in this case....

S14rebuild

09-17-2020, 04:23 PM

Or maybe, just maybe, the minimum and living wage have such a delta this is what you get?? I guaran-fucking-tee, the minimum wage couldn't even get you an in-out burger.......much less pay rent in CA.

Every other country in the free world had the government subsidized not only the workers, but the companies, provided proper PPEs, proper healthcare and guess what?? They are all going back to work, opening schools and getting back to day to day without having to do Herd "Mentality" (whatever the fuck that is)

We can even get PPE distrubution right...The admin literally undermined its own fucking people, Yet, it's the dems faullt??

But minimum wage effects people with poor or no education. comes down to community..... i wonder which communitys are at the bottom? The ones with the highest crime rates, the ones with the most same race crimes, the communities with the highest goverment assistance, communities with the most broken family homes....

This is just too easy.

How much more do you want others to give up to help others that wont help themselves? Im suppose to pay for little shakuan's breakfast,lunch and dinner when his dads in jail for selling drugs(my $ pays for him too) and his mom out in the street with a BLM sign, screams life isnt fair, I made poor choices give me more free shit?

Just draw the line and then i can truly decide........ whats the amount of the money i worked hard for every year, im suppose to hand over, so others can have it? Lets start there.....

dbeiler

09-17-2020, 04:27 PM

You fellas keep neg repping me over and over again. That's not exactly being "open-minded" and "open for debate" now, is it? I've never neg repped any of you.

No, I didn't read your quoted Post article. What happened to the link? The article doesn't even exist.

Yes, it would be great if news outlet reported just the facts. Many of them don't. They add their own "twist". If they constantly have more Pro-lefty than Pro-righty headlines, or vice versa, I consider them biased. The Post is the most biased publication I've ever seen and I recommend everyone avoid using them for debate.

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 04:31 PM

As I mentioned I don't ever neg rep anyone in this thread...

I'll be sure to post the link. Not sure where it went

In the mean time check my Twitter post

dbeiler

09-17-2020, 04:44 PM

As I mentioned I don't ever neg rep anyone in this thread...

It seems to be somebody who values your posts. Maybe that other fella who was just talking about "middle school tribalism"? Yes, no?

https://i.imgur.com/qLlDUUMl.jpg

kingkilburn

09-17-2020, 04:47 PM

If I rep you trust that I want you to know where it came from.

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 04:48 PM

Yeah that's definitely not me as I wouldn't refer to myself in the 3rd person hahahan! I'm man enough to own a neg rep if I give it ��

kingkilburn

09-17-2020, 04:49 PM

I feel like negative repping you for not knowing how to take a fucking screenshot. Really adds context to your arguments.

S14rebuild

09-17-2020, 04:51 PM

dbeiler

09-17-2020, 05:08 PM

I feel like negative repping you for not knowing how to take a fucking screenshot. Really adds context to your arguments.

Screenshots can be edited. My photos are undeniably unedited. Plausibility.

kingkilburn

09-17-2020, 05:25 PM

Mr fucking galaxy brain over here.

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 05:46 PM

But minimum wage effects people with poor or no education. comes down to community..... i wonder which communitys are at the bottom? The ones with the highest crime rates, the ones with the most same race crimes, the communities with the highest goverment assistance, communities with the most broken family homes....

This is just too easy.

How much more do you want others to give up to help others that wont help themselves? Im suppose to pay for little shakuan's breakfast,lunch and dinner when his dads in jail for selling drugs(my $ pays for him too) and his mom out in the street with a BLM sign, screams life isnt fair, I made poor choices give me more free shit?

Just draw the line and then i can truly decide........ whats the amount of the money i worked hard for every year, im suppose to hand over, so others can have it? Lets start there.....

DO you think people choose to be in a community with higher crime rates?? No schools?? No opportunities?? Or chose to be followed by the police?? Or had a choice when it came to the "war on drugs" (which you need to read what it actually meant and how it exploded the black representation in prison and why rich white owners got paid for it)?? Or when the government redlined the district they lived in?? Or denied siphyslis treatment because "scientist" wanted to see the long term effects on humans??

You really think people chose to be in the situation they are currently in??

Here are some sources to read

The Tuskegee Timeline

The study initially involved 600 black men ? 399 with syphilis, 201 who did not have the disease. The study was conducted without the benefit of patients? informed consent. Researchers told the men they were being treated for ?bad blood,? a local term used to describe several ailments, including syphilis, anemia, and fatigue. In truth, they did not receive the proper treatment needed to cure their illness. In exchange for taking part in the study, the men received free medical exams, free meals, and burial insurance. Although originally projected to last 6 months, the study actually went on for 40 years.

The ended in 1970s. FUcking 50 years ago not even!

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/526655831/a-forgotten-history-of-how-the-u-s-government-segregated-america

In 1933, faced with a housing shortage, the federal government began a program explicitly designed to increase ? and segregate ? America's housing stock. Author Richard Rothstein says the housing programs begun under the New Deal were tantamount to a "state-sponsored system of segregation."

Historian Says Don't 'Sanitize' How Our Government Created Ghettos
The government's efforts were "primarily designed to provide housing to white, middle-class, lower-middle-class families," he says. African-Americans and other people of color were left out of the new suburban communities ? and pushed instead into urban housing projects.

https://www.drugpolicy.org/issues/brief-history-drug-war

The Early Stages of Drug Prohibition
Many currently illegal drugs, such as marijuana, opium, coca, and psychedelics have been used for thousands of years for both medical and spiritual purposes. So why are some drugs legal and other drugs illegal today? It's not based on any scientific assessment of the relative risks of these drugs ? but it has everything to do with who is associated with these drugs.

The first anti-opium laws in the 1870s were directed at Chinese immigrants. The first anti-cocaine laws in the early 1900s were directed at black men in the South. The first anti-marijuana laws, in the Midwest and the Southwest in the 1910s and 20s, were directed at Mexican migrants and Mexican Americans. Today, Latino and especially black communities are still subject to wildly disproportionate drug enforcement and sentencing practices.

White people with PURE COCAINE got a slap on the wrist (as they could afford to shoot up). Black folks, who are historically marginalized could only afford reduced cocaine and received significantly LONGER and more serious terms for usage, although being less potent than pure cocaine white folks used to shoot up

Again, I wish people would not ignore HOW/WHY we got here.........

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 05:52 PM

Corbic

09-17-2020, 06:05 PM

White people with PURE COCAINE got a slap on the wrist (as they could afford to shoot up). Black folks, who are historically marginalized could only afford reduced cocaine and received significantly LONGER and more serious terms for usage, although being less potent than pure cocaine white folks used to shoot up

Again, I wish people would not ignore HOW/WHY we got here.........

Funny, since the Crack Vs Cocaine argument has long been debunked.

Higher penalties for crack, meth and heroin are directly related to the perceived societal threat and physical harm it does to the user.

A Gram of crack is going to physically fuck you up more then a Gram of Coke.

A person trying to get a Gram of crack is going to be sucking dick, robbing little old ladies, selling drugs and stealing car stereos.

A person trying to get a Gram of Coke is going to ask his dealer if he takes America Express.

This has nothing to do with race unless you are going to argue Black's are predestined by genetics to be violent crackheads.

Even if Black's are genetically more susceptible to crack, again, our society values safety and human life. We all know crack absolutely destroys people. Coke, thanks to the liberal entertainment industry, still has this risqu? swanky sexy vibe to it.

If you cared about drug policy you should be backing Trump.

Biden and Harris both wrote and supported those aggressive anti-street crime laws.

Trump had been trying to lock down the Mexican boarder and stop the mass importation of Chinese fentanyl. You know, the shit that killed your boy Floyd. POS got a bigger send off then Kobe.

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 06:17 PM

Debunked??

Let me present you with Article/Exhibit 1 below to completely refute your claim about "debunked"

"You understand what I'm saying? We knew we couldn't make it illegal to be either against the war or black, but by getting the public to associate the hippies with marijuana and blacks with heroin. And then criminalizing both heavily, we could disrupt those communities," Ehrlichman said. "We could arrest their leaders. raid their homes, break up their meetings, and vilify them night after night on the evening news. Did we know we were lying about the drugs? Of course we did."

https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/23/politics/john-ehrlichman-richard-nixon-drug-war-blacks-hippie/index.html

And please do not knock the source as it was a direct interview with Nixon's top Policy Chief at the time

How much clearly do you want it to be??

And once again, you completely ignore redlining, the Tuskegee airmen project as well as NUMEROUS measures white folks have taken over the years to marginalize blacks

Its an uncomfortable topic, but it NEEDS to be had. And that is all people are asking. That black lives MATTER. Not more than anyone else. JUST FUCKING MATTERS. Thats all
......

Corbic

09-17-2020, 06:32 PM

Jesus H Christ.

[QUOTE] The Early Stages of Drug Prohibition

Many currently illegal drugs, such as marijuana, opium, coca, and psychedelics have been used for thousands of years for both medical and spiritual purposes. So why are some drugs legal and other drugs illegal today? It's not based on any scientific assessment of the relative risks of these drugs ? but it has everything to do with who is associated with these drugs.

The first anti-opium laws in the 1870s were directed at Chinese immigrants. The first anti-cocaine laws in the early 1900s were directed at black men in the South. The first anti-marijuana laws, in the Midwest and the Southwest in the 1910s and 20s, were directed at Mexican migrants and Mexican Americans. Today, Latino and especially black communities are still subject to wildly disproportionate drug enforcement and sentencing practices.[/B]

I just read your snippet. Congrats, that is the most idiotic and racist shit in this thread now.

You ask about how and why and instead give us manipulated racist garbage.

History Lesson.

Smoking Opium is not a sacred Chinese tradition. The British flooded the country with opium they grew in Pakistan and Afghanistan to counter the trade imbalance with all the Tea they imported.

They actually fought a war with the Chinese when the Chinese tried to ban Opium because it had ravaged their people.

So your 1870 ban is as actually part of an international ban to end the global trade of fucking Opium.

Are you saying Latinos are all pot heads and Negros raging coke addicts?

Did you forget get what happened in 1920's?

Woman's suffrage, and thus the rise of the nanny state and increased Government mandated morality.

Also by this time all of America was addicted to cocaine since it was the basis of every type of medicine, drink and over the counter remedy. It's addictive nature was not lost on people.

Alcohol was also banned at this time. Clearly racist to the Irish.

And for Pot, just go watch reefer madness. There was fuck all of about 8 Mexicans in the Midwest in 1920. The Devils Weed had always been seen as a pest that created dumb lazy worthless men that just sit around and masturbate all day.

So again, great job. Chinese are all opium junkies. Latinos are stoners and Black's are crackheads.

Good way to stop stereo types and defeat racism!

kingkilburn

09-17-2020, 06:35 PM

You guys are arguing about this shit like you don't have all of modern history at your fingertips. Redlining is a thing that's still happening. Food deserts are a thing. Over policing due to statistical feedback is a thing. Banks outright refusing small business loans based on race and zip code is a thing.

I have no interest in discussions that don't include this situation as the baseline starting position from which to build positive outcomes from. I'm not even talking about systemic racism here. This is just basic socioeconomics. People cannot get out from under this sort of problem on their own. It doesn't have anything to do with character or personal choices.

S14rebuild

09-17-2020, 06:39 PM

DO you think people choose to be in a community with higher crime rates?? No schools?? No opportunities?? Or chose to be followed by the police?? Or had a choice when it came to the "war on drugs" (which you need to read what it actually meant and how it exploded the black representation in prison and why rich white owners got paid for it)?? Or when the government redlined the district they lived in?? Or denied siphyslis treatment because "scientist" wanted to see the long term effects on humans??

You really think people chose to be in the situation they are currently in??

Here are some sources to read

The Tuskegee Timeline

The ended in 1970s. FUcking 50 years ago not even!

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/03/526655831/a-forgotten-history-of-how-the-u-s-government-segregated-america

https://www.drugpolicy.org/issues/brief-history-drug-war

White people with PURE COCAINE got a slap on the wrist (as they could afford to shoot up). Black folks, who are historically marginalized could only afford reduced cocaine and received significantly LONGER and more serious terms for usage, although being less potent than pure cocaine white folks used to shoot up

Again, I wish people would not ignore HOW/WHY we got here.........

Oh so mean like HARRIS keepn those black men locked up, used for slave labor, she even hide evidence to keep nonviolent drug offenders locked up.

But to ur reply...yes they do..its there community.they should be the ones to clean it up.

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 06:40 PM

Corbic, who the fuck is talking about Opium. I said it on several occasions; the Nixon admin War on drugs and how it marginalized black people. I even posted the quote from the Top Policy Chief from back then. Your comment about debunked is inaccurate and sim,ply FALSE. Care to comment on that?? Isn't that what you said is debunked?? Why are you completely deflecting and bringing up some random shit??

I will say it again, since you again, continually gloss over it. WAR ON DRUGS! What you said i

Please cite your source for your history lesson please. Thats alot of "history" with literallly zero to back up any of it......

As I said; War on drugs of the 60s and 70s so please stay on topic as the history of Opium is not what is in discussion in regards to the NIxon Policy of War on Drugs.

And what about the other two links?? Tuskee airmen and redlining?

Thanks

Phlip

09-17-2020, 06:51 PM

You fellas keep neg repping me over and over again. That's not exactly being "open-minded" and "open for debate" now, is it? I've never neg repped any of you.

Note: I audit rep comments every couple of days waiting on a reason to ban someone for abusing the system.
You have gotten SEVEN rep comments in 13 calendar months, so your "keep neg repping" claim is bunk.
Also, the concept of repping someone because they did you, positive or negative, is what led to the deletion of the system the first time and is precisely WHY I randomly check the rep comments.
Thanks for playing though

KA24DESOneThree

09-17-2020, 07:21 PM

Ralliart, you're ignoring the fact that people ignore facts once they've made up their mind on a subject.

They're not interested in facts. They see black and white, good and evil, conservative and socialist. There aren't shades of gray. A protester isn't someone who's exercising their Constitutional right to free speech, they're a rioter, a BLM "thug," an antifa terrorist. There's nothing that changes it- no matter how many times I say I'm a libertarian and I espouse those beliefs, I'm a Democrat because I'm not a Republican. kingkilburn's a Democrat, although he's said he's a left libertarian numerous times. Also, because we're Democrats, we're also socialists. Because we're socialists, we're the enemy. Because we're the enemy, we need to be destroyed.

The goal is to push the undecided, to inform them, to allow them to come to their realizations and their understandings. We get bogged down in the muck of talking to those who have no interest in changing- and we also have to remember that we have to change. We have to be willing to learn, to concede victories, to put our biases aside for the "greater good."

kingkilburn brought up "food deserts." Everyone should read about them and why they're important- because they very much are.

RalliartRsX

09-17-2020, 07:23 PM

Oh so mean like HARRIS keepn those black men locked up, used for slave labor, she even hide evidence to keep nonviolent drug offenders locked up.

But to ur reply...yes they do..its there community.they should be the ones to clean it up.

So someone drives their big ass boat into the back of your car, then walk away and say "well fuck you! You shouldn't have been black and driving ANY car to begin with, so clean you shit up!"

Da fuq dude. Really?? Because that is exactly what you are saying

And why are you referring to Biden Harris?? What do they have to do with any of the three things in my post??

Do I agree with Harris, black incarceration rate?? Fuck no! But, I am going to tell you the same thing I told Corbic. Stay on topic. Harris is not the reason for Tuskegee Airmen, Redlining or War on Drugs.........The discussion here and the topic very much transcends those two.....

S14rebuild

09-17-2020, 07:41 PM

So someone drives their big ass boat into the back of your car, then walk away and say "well fuck you! You shouldn't have been black and driving ANY car to begin with, so clean you shit up!"

Da fuq dude. Really?? Because that is exactly what you are saying

Thats not what im sayning.....

Wheres the self responsibility?

Help your self before you demand help from others

LEG1T

09-17-2020, 08:15 PM

S14Rebuild. Why are you missing the road but are trying to give directions??

RalliArt is saying in a nutshell that even before you can act, progress, build, your foundation is pretty much concretely laid. Is this hard to understand??

30 years ago someone of color or black could have beaten all the odds stacked up against them as a successful citizen, wanted a better life for themselves and sought to purchase a home in a nice area. Do you know what most likely would have happened??? THEY WOULD BE DENIED SOLELY BECAUSE THEY WERE BLACK, AS THE DEED SPECIFICALLY OUTLINED THIS HOUSE SHALL NOT BE SOLD TO A PERSON OF COLOR.

Where would they go then, hmmmm...

It is of privilege and truly great ignorance for someone to say they can do better, when you fail to posses basic human empathy and understanding of how they got sick In the first place.

Would you go up to a disabled person pushing a wheelchair and say stop pushing this wheel and just stand up??

Easy for you to say, isn’t it?? Literally this is how you sound..

How can you want a people to run when all there life they’ve been put to stand.

To understand your present you must acknowledge your past.

Years of oppression, years of laws and statutes, slavery, profiling, discrimination do you think that is all gone?

Yes, or no?

Unless your answer is yes to that question then you must all understand why as a people many are finding it harder to come up and grow.

Oh and if you answer YES, then you just saved us all a lot of time, because then it all makes sense.

S14rebuild

09-17-2020, 08:39 PM

So being black is equal to a handicap/disability? What fool

So its ALL the white mans fault then? All of it? I wont settle for this bullshit. self accountability. So easy to blame others...

And my answer is YES.... dont need you to place me in a category, you dont know me from shit, u think u do....

S14rebuild

09-17-2020, 08:41 PM

kingkilburn

09-17-2020, 09:31 PM

Yes, it literally is The White Man's fault. A whole system designed to prop one group up and all others down, for centuries. It's not even open to debate or opinion. This is literally l i t e r a l l y what happened, people like you are continuing it whether you know it or not.

kingkilburn

09-17-2020, 09:42 PM

Corbic

09-17-2020, 10:48 PM

Corbic

09-17-2020, 10:49 PM

dbeiler

09-18-2020, 04:37 AM

Note: I audit rep comments every couple of days waiting on a reason to ban someone for abusing the system.

And yet there is a massive gap between my premium member payment date and actual membership access date. Explain that moderator time management logic.

You have gotten SEVEN rep comments in 13 calendar months, so your "keep neg repping" claim is bunk.

We clearly have different definitions of "keep neg repping".

Also, the concept of repping someone because they did you, positive or negative, is what led to the deletion of the system the first time and is precisely WHY I randomly check the rep comments.

Well you see, it's impossible to neg rep somebody back when they too bitch-ass to admit they neg repped you in the first place.

Phlip

09-18-2020, 04:59 AM

And yet there is a massive gap between my premium member payment date and actual membership access date. Explain that moderator time management logic.
Because, Karen, I am not the one who handles the money around here and therefore have no access to any paypal transactions. Don't want it either.

We clearly have different definitions of "keep neg repping"
Apparently we do, as you say "keep" because one person in 13 months saw fit to offer you some pity rep and six others have cared less for what you may have posted to react negatively. But again, 13 months is not a suggestion of "keep," as a suggestion of "constantly happening," but thanks for asking.
Well you see, it's impossible to neg rep somebody back when they too bitch-ass to admit they neg repped you in the first place.
The freedom to identify ones self in a rep comment -- positive or negative -- is fully on the person leaving the comment. The circle jerk that ensued when people did that and allowing people to see who had repped them the first time led to the initial demise of the rep system and therefore was purposely left out when I reinstated it.
Not that I owed you any explanation.

SupaDoopa

09-18-2020, 07:33 AM

Can't wait to see what Harris - I mean Biden - does for the US in 2024.

#VoteForSupa2024 because I'll be old enough at that point, sadly. Then all you fucks can print all the shit I said on Zilvia and run to the papers and I'll just troll you on a national level. Shit will be fuego.

KA24DESOneThree

09-18-2020, 08:32 AM

Corbic, you're osmium.

kingkilburn

09-18-2020, 08:54 AM

So you are literally saying whites are superior to all other races.....

https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/original/000/026/169/meme_kid.jpg

S14rebuild

09-18-2020, 09:11 AM

Corbic

09-18-2020, 10:49 AM

Well, how else did 6% of the world's population manage to build the entire modern global economic system and suppress billions of peoples, hundreds of nations for half a millennium?

That's your argument.

Explain to me how a guy from Pakistan or India can win the immigration lottery, come here with nothing, barely able to speak the language, knows nobody and within a generation is able to build a small business and raise his family into the middle class?

See it all the time, thousands of success stories from impoverished immigrants.

Yet I have to keep hearing about a bunch of spoiled urban dwellers crying about how thier grand pappy got locked up for selling crack and therefore the system is racist because they aren't millionaires because of generations systemic racism.

Corbic

09-18-2020, 10:50 AM

Need a vp? Im downCan I be head of Homeland Security?

kingkilburn

09-18-2020, 10:54 AM

How overt does the racism have to get before Corbic gets put in timeout?

Corbic

09-18-2020, 11:49 AM

How overt does the racism have to get before Corbic gets put in timeout?That's your argument. Not mine.

You literally said that. This is the paradox of the left and why you're all closet racists with your lowered expectations.

kingkilburn

09-18-2020, 11:56 AM

That's the argument you'd like me to make because it aligns with the world you'd like to see. Fuck off with the bullshit.

deolio

09-18-2020, 12:10 PM

kingkilburn

09-18-2020, 12:15 PM

No cup! Get your own cup. What about mine I got from my father? I worked hard to fill the second half of MY cup I received already mostly full!

S14rebuild

09-18-2020, 12:39 PM

You neg rep bois really think people like living on food stamps? That people living in poverty don?t want to ?lift themselves up by their boot straps?? That man is inherently lazy? What a sad world you live in. Should call it the cup half empty party.

Ofcourse people dont wanna be on food stamps....THEY WANT MORE FREE STUFF.

Theres a diffrence...working for it. Or just demanding it given to u.

Theres lots of people that made it out of poor situations and made an amazing life for themselves.... jst cause the color of your skin is dark doesnt mean its not possiable.

What i find funny, in the world and on this forum, all the banter back and forth, not 1 person has given 1 law, 1 direction. 1 anthing that would solve this so called "problem"

Its not a probelm..thats why.

Your born "classless" not rich or poor.... its upto your parent(s), community to shape you.... not the goverment

RalliartRsX

09-18-2020, 01:02 PM

trump and the Wyatt koch were born into and inherited millions/billions of dollars and haven't had to work a single day in thier lives....or had to apply for a job

What do you mean people are born classless? No one is saying the government needs to shape you. However if that's your thoughts, then you need to take issue with the Government instated laws of War on Drugs or red lining that directly targeted people of color which ultimately shaped their lives....

I really wish you would read up on that as its a perfect example of the government shaping ones life....worse so against thier will.

The exact same shit people love to bitch about in regards to masks and rights

The knife cuts BOTH ways....

kingkilburn

09-18-2020, 01:07 PM

You asshats don't want policy. You want to throw shit on the walls and yell about.

The only people hustling for free shit are the assholes getting their taxes wiped clean so that working people can subsidize their campaign contributions. The rest of us are asking our fellow citizens for a hand out of a situation beyond our control that is largely an intended result of shitty policy.

Imagine being mad about proposed minimum wage increases in another state but being silent as the grave about yet another multi trillion dollar round of quantitative easing. Imagine being mad about the restoration of voting RIGHTS to your fellow citizens and having not a fucking thing to say about people losing their rights over shit like jay walking or unpaid tickets they weren't even notified about. Imagine demanding voter ID while cheering on the closure of every state and county office that issues valid IDs.

You slimy mother fuckers want to see people you deem less than be ground into dust but you're not men enough to admit it, and if that is not the case you can take that up with your Republican Party.

kingkilburn

09-18-2020, 01:27 PM

deolio

09-18-2020, 02:07 PM

Ofcourse people dont wanna be on food stamps....THEY WANT MORE FREE STUFF.

Theres a diffrence...working for it. Or just demanding it given to u.

Are you aware that minimum wage workers often qualify for food stamps? Having to endure the judgement of people like you in order to just simply SURVIVE is not a sign of a healthy society.

Theres lots of people that made it out of poor situations and made an amazing life for themselves.... jst cause the color of your skin is dark doesnt mean its not possiable.

Not impossible, sure. Of the 615 billionaires in the United States, 7 are black. If they have an equal opportunity, 13% (80) of the 615 should be black, but that?s not the case. HMMMM MAYBE SOMETHING IS OFF HERE....

What i find funny, in the world and on this forum, all the banter back and forth, not 1 person has given 1 law, 1 direction. 1 anthing that would solve this so called "problem"

1. Cut military spending and direct it towards social and after school programs.
2. Abolish for-profit prisons.
3. Decriminalize drugs.
4. Demilitarize and reform policing and pay out settlements from their pension.
5. Actually hold government employees (politicians, police, presidents etc.) accountable.
6. Stop giving the extremely wealthy insane tax breaks.

Its not a probelm..thats why.

Ok Hellen Keller...

Your born "classless" not rich or poor.... its upto your parent(s), community to shape you.... not the goverment

Uhhhh that?s literally what people want - the government to fuck off. Thanks for agreeing.

kingkilburn

09-18-2020, 02:42 PM

So, let's discuss the removal of internal organs without consent or cause from humans that haven't committed a crime but are held indefinitely against their will.

How's that for policy discussion.

KA24DESOneThree

09-18-2020, 02:46 PM

You're pointing at the moon and they're staring at your finger (or in Trump's case, the sun).

Don't concentrate on the finger or you will miss all that heavenly glory.

I call dibs on Deflection for 400, Alex.

SupaDoopa

09-18-2020, 02:59 PM

Y'all are getting hired. Fuck it. We can have a drift track installed at Area 51. Shit's gonna get wild.

S14rebuild

09-18-2020, 03:07 PM

Lol...so if i dont agree with anything yall say im a racist ? Just wanna know

kingkilburn

09-18-2020, 03:10 PM

The things you say demonstrate your bias whether you're aware of that bias or not. Horse before cart.

S14rebuild

09-18-2020, 03:15 PM

The things you say demonstrate your bias whether you're aware of that bias or not. Horse before cart.

Theres no bias...its a side. With or against. Noone here is changing anyones mind or anyones vote.

zombiewolf513

09-18-2020, 03:53 PM

you --> :bash: <-- californiarinos

kingkilburn

09-18-2020, 04:02 PM

There's no sides. We're all humans. Some of y'all just suck.

zombiewolf513

09-18-2020, 04:11 PM

There's no sides. We're all humans. Some of y'all just suck.

Wow, you should write some slam poetry about it.

kingkilburn

09-18-2020, 05:59 PM

"My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

Rest in peace RBG

zombiewolf513

09-18-2020, 06:04 PM

Overstayed her welcome over a partisan opinion. S.

zombiewolf513

09-18-2020, 07:00 PM

How many times was Trump impeached? None.
No evidence.
Two terms.
Two scoops.

Two Nobels.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/donald-trump-nominated-for-second-nobel-peace-prize/

Three scoops of SCOTUS

S14rebuild

09-18-2020, 07:13 PM

"My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

Rest in peace RBG

Ripppppppppp

Corbic

09-18-2020, 08:49 PM

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Corbic

09-18-2020, 10:31 PM

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/b92fd160b8947d2123f06a5beef2c876.jpg

#NoNoNo

zombiewolf513

09-19-2020, 05:24 AM

new thread theme song:
pavLG_NFzPc?t=53

https://i.ibb.co/Ws78CBN/90sdancingkid.gif

I'm glad that one's finally over...

https://i.ibb.co/0FzvSSz/afewmonthsatruthies.png

And the democrats want to watch the sequel out of spite...

https://i.ibb.co/g39vY0K/afewmonthsatbidens.png

SimpleS14

09-19-2020, 05:55 AM

"My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

Not going to happen with Mitch McConnell leading the Senate. IMO, I anticipate a replacement after the election before this current Congress session ends.

Corbic

09-19-2020, 08:10 AM

"My most fervent wish is that I will not be replaced until a new president is installed."

Rest in peace RBGOverstayed her welcome over a partisan opinion. S.Yup, she should have stepped down under Obama if that's what she wanted.

KA24DESOneThree

09-19-2020, 09:21 AM

Corbic

09-19-2020, 03:29 PM

So do any of you think that our elected officials have enough time to go through decades of transcripts and decisions, as well as multiples tests of jurisprudence and suitability, before the end of Trump's rule?

Or would you rather it just be a partisan choice?I'll let RBG make that call...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/fdda159fe48b60b170eec3842db8a522.jpg

Hopefully he nominates Judge Amy Coney Barrett. Love to see the left melt down over her.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200919/aa2df8e86d6e1951bb8bcc0dffd9d4ac.jpg

Christian, Conservative, Pro Life, Pro Family, Married to a Man, Biological Woman, 7 kids, 5 biological, 2 adopted Haitians.... Oh and she's only 49.

Let the Reeeee begin.

https://mobile.twitter.com/Dec1968/status/1307318483026411526?s=20

KA24DESOneThree

09-20-2020, 09:21 AM

Amy Coney Barrett's support for stare decisis could be good or bad, Constitutionally-speaking.

Her lack of experience (less than three years in the 7th Circuit) could, again, be good or bad. It could mean that she's inexperienced and hasn't found her voice, or it could mean that she hasn't lost her idealism (which again may not necessarily be a positive of itself given her personal views, although she has said they would not affect her decisions as a justice).

She's a member of some Christian cult-y-thing called People of Praise. Note that this is biased opinion, because I regard almost all groups in which people "swear a lifelong oath of loyalty to one another, and are assigned and accountable to a personal adviser" cult-y.

Barbara Lagoa has more experience and has not made her faith such a large part of her public persona. She also doesn't have as much information readily available.

The idea of more staunch theists on the court disturbs me. We need at least one atheist in a significant position of power; the United States was founded as a secular nation and it needs to have checks to that end.

PS- Unbiased America leans right, homie. Follow the citations.

deolio

09-20-2020, 11:00 AM

Love to see the left melt down over her.

Lol who hurt you? Must have been deeeep in your butt if you’re so obsessed with trolling the left that you’d support such an under-qualified candidate.

Corbic

09-20-2020, 11:04 AM

Lol who hurt you? Must have been deeeep in your butt if you?re so obsessed with trolling the left that you?d support such an under-qualified candidate.Oh? What are the qualifications, can you send me over the job posting?

zombiewolf513

09-20-2020, 03:45 PM

Must have been deeeep in your butt if you?re so obsessed with trolling the left that you?d support such an under-qualified candidate.

All bets are off. The far left (including RBG) has made that clear, already. You can thank them for that precedent.

Future240

09-20-2020, 04:29 PM

Oh? What are the qualifications, can you send me over the job posting?
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/19/amy-coney-barrett-what-you-need-to-know-418378

Her record
Barrett has served less than three years on the 7th Circuit after working as a law professor at Notre Dame University for nearly two decades.

Her short tenure on the bench means there?s been little time to develop a body of legal opinions, which lawmakers from both sides of the aisle would likely scrutinize. Republicans, having been burned in the past by GOP presidents? nominees who ended up voting more liberally, would also likely demand reassurances from Barrett before granting her a lifetime appointment to the court.

vs

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/19/what-you-need-to-know-about-barbara-lagoa-418437

A deep legal background
After graduating from Columbia Law School, Lagoa worked as a pro bono lawyer for Elian Gonzalez?s family and later as a federal prosecutor. Lagoa then spent more than a decade as a judge on a Florida appeals court before being picked by Gov. Ron DeSantis to serve on the state?s supreme court.

"She has been the essence of what a judge should be,? DeSantis said when he nominated her.

Lagoa is clearly more qualified. Honestly I cannot see why Trump is even considering Barrett.

Who cares about her religion. That is her personal life. When it comes to be a judge that part should not be celebrated or demonized.

I am strongly believer in a separation of church and state. With more tenure and if she does not allow her religious beliefs to influence her decisions I can see her being a good candidate down the road.

zombiewolf513

09-20-2020, 06:53 PM

"SHES AGAINST ABORTION OMG ITS BC OF HER RELIGION"

I can already hear the bullshit now.

SupaDoopa

09-21-2020, 11:56 AM

Man, imagine. Another 4 years and yet another young SCOTUS entry. Y'all gonna be taking to the streets with your little signs and sad faces preaching about social injustice and shit and the rest of us gonna be laughing eating our mac and cheese. I love a good mac and cheese.

S14rebuild

09-21-2020, 06:34 PM

Spent sunday all day on the water down here in florida..and wow..all the trump flags from all the boats flown in the wind. All the flag loles on with trump flags on the intercoastal. Felt amazing!!

deolio

09-21-2020, 06:41 PM

How many boats sunk out of irony?

S14rebuild

09-22-2020, 04:26 AM

How many boats sunk out of irony?

Not 1:kiss::kiss:

Corbic

09-22-2020, 10:00 AM

Spent sunday all day on the water down here in florida..and wow..all the trump flags from all the boats flown in the wind. All the flag loles on with trump flags on the intercoastal. Felt amazing!!https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200922/29d9c402a6a1c580f3f8624c1c4bdb5e.jpg

S14rebuild

09-22-2020, 10:30 AM

Lol people enjoying the open waters and comfort of fellow people with similar ideas....ohhh no! Such a horrible thing! Stop it now!!

No to boat parades....YES to riots!

[email protected]

09-22-2020, 01:03 PM

Im just here to show off my signature.

S14rebuild

09-22-2020, 01:50 PM

https://youtu.be/LxiTGFvE2Y4

Wow...florida taken the lead on this.

Theres no way anyone should be against this...this is for the saftey and security of Americans lives

[email protected]

09-22-2020, 02:35 PM

https://youtu.be/LxiTGFvE2Y4

Wow...florida taken the lead on this.

Theres no way anyone should be against this...this is for the saftey and security of Americans lives

beautiful!!!

deolio

09-22-2020, 04:26 PM

Red bois always preach about the first amendment, but then they champion legislation that threatens that very thing just because their surface understanding of the laws are that it will only effect BLM protesters. Not only are they hypocrites (I know, they don't care), but also idiots who clearly would cut off their nose to spite their face.

https://i.imgur.com/EjPGQre.png

so dumb it hurts.

https://i.imgur.com/dSh4XVE.jpg

Some food for thought for those of you on the left and right, as I sit atop my Libertarian high horse in the middle :wiggle:

You have to stop trying to ?gotcha? Republicans. They don?t care. They don?t care if they?re hypocrites, they don?t care if they?re following the fascist playbook, they don?t fucking care. ?Oooh, remember when Mitch McConnell said this?? He doesn?t give a shit. Global banks reported $2 trillion in suspicious transactions through western banks over the past two decades. This country is a Ponzi scheme. He?s just another guy from the smoke-filled room cashing fat checks. And all voting Republican rubes care about is ?fuck liberals and the left? even if it?s at their own expense, and the Democratic Party is at best performative resistance. Everybody at the top just keeps raking in more money off our complacency and compliance; laughing while we bicker amongst ourselves like a bunch of helpless lemmings.

It?s hard to talk about this stuff sometimes because so many people are still so wrapped up in the minutiae; the ?nuance? of it all. Nothing is to be gained from pointing out the ?nuances? anymore. Get out of that NPR mindset; in fact, turn that middling garbage off and never listen to it again. Fascism is happening according to everyone who knows a Goddamn thing about the subject, the rich welcome it if it keeps them rich, and we?re all on our own. Your right-wing neighbors are so far off the deep-end that they spend their free time fantasizing about murdering you, and that?s why you should probably own a gun or some other form of self-defense; everybody?s scared, but some people are fucking dangerous when they?re scared. The cops aren?t going to side with ?the people? and we?ll be incredibly lucky if the military does.

They?ll have filled RBG?s seat by next week. It?s over. What happens to you now depends on two things: 1. luck and 2. preparedness.

What else is there to even say at this point? When will ?liberals? figure out that the time for negotiations has long passed? The oligarchs have succeeded at duping half the country into thinking they?re fucking Paul Revere if they kill the other half in order to keep the heat off themselves, and it?s working like a charm.

Oh but I?m sure your meme collection that highlights their hypocrisy will outweigh decades of brainwashing and change their minds. News flash: no, it fucking won?t. Most of them are lost in an alternate dimension of outlandish conspiracy theories and misdirected rage.

So you can take this knowledge and lie down and die, or you can get up and fight back with everything you?ve got. You can surrender and give in, or you can use your brain and start thinking about the long game. Those are your options. There are no easy outs. You can let this strengthen you, or you can let it crush you. Only one of those choices actually helps anything. So make the choice, or it will be made for you.

KA24DESOneThree

09-22-2020, 05:22 PM

Corbic

09-23-2020, 08:31 AM

The mere fact that they're waiving sovereign immunity to allow supportive cities to be sued and not the bad cops who mace/tase/beat/trample/gas/shoot citizens shows exactly where their loyalties lie. They're not interested in solving the problem nor are they interested in addressing the problem.

Well maybe those cities should be doing a better job hiring, training and instructing their police forces.

Idiots are rioting even when the police do their job perfectly (Kenosha).

Should rioters be held accountable for their actions? Absolutely. Should their accountability be enhanced because their actions occurred during a riot? Absolutely not. If someone steals $500 worth of merchandise, it's a misdemeanor. If someone causes $5.99 in damage to property, it's a felony.

Why? We have all sorts of laws with various punishments based on intent. This goes back to what I explained to you about the drug laws.

Rioting, trashing windows and looting dramatically increases the risk of injury to others and it creates a mob mentality that magnifies the destruction.

We're not looking at a single shoplifter who stole a Cardi B CD from Target. We have a gutted burned down building that was destroyed by a thousand different people.

The RICO clause means protests are going to get more violent, not less. Organization is protest, disorganization is a mob or a riot.

Won't be riots if no one is willing to bus these people in.

The clause against bond or bail could be a violation of the Sixth or Eighth amendments, but who gives a shit about anything other than the Second, amirite?

Except it's not.

You have no right to bail prior to a court appearance.

Bail is normally granted because of the low level of the crime (aka Shoplifting) and to prevent overcrowding.

Again, we are finding these people are bussed in, bailed out by political groups and never appear in court. Liberal DA's drop charges and off to the next riot they go, no regard to the lost bail money which wasn't there's to begin with.

You should be glad.

If you are an actual protestor who just wants to hold a sign and scream, you'll be fine.

If we get rid of the terrorists and thieves, the protestors will be safe. They won't have to worry about being hit by cars or tear gassed. They won't risk injury or bring shot.

The entire country was Pro-Floyd after the video. But after the riots now half of us are hoping thr police use live rounds and are saying Fuck-Floyd.

If you didn't have the riots you'd still have their support and we could have seen global improvements. Instead you earned harsher crack downs. Good work.

KA24DESOneThree

09-23-2020, 10:29 AM

Corbic

09-23-2020, 11:14 AM

Point out a single instance of people being "bused" in. I see a bunch of conservative fake news sites spouting unsubstantiated bullshit about Soros buses and organization, while actual, vetted, news organizations constantly refute it.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/anti-trump-protesters-bused-into-austin/

https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/local/rumors-about-violent-dublin-protest-are-false/93-77fbf4c9-2986-4e7b-bb65-0807d8922292

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/klamath-falls-oregon-victory-declared-over-antifa-which-never-showed-n1226681

https://news.wfsu.org/wfsu-local-news/2020-06-03/tallahassee-police-say-theres-no-basis-to-rumors-of-thousands-of-protestors-being-bused-into-the-city-with-ill-intent

https://trib.com/news/local/casper/city-organizers-say-no-evidence-antifa-or-outside-protesters-will-be-bused-into-casper-on/article_bd3972c1-75af-586d-9665-d6437c10089c.html

What kind of dumb fuck thinks buses would be the appropriate method of transportation, anyway? "Yeah, we'll use 45-foot-long, 10-foot-high vehicles that stand out like a sore thumb to do exactly what our detractors are saying we'll do."So that's your argument.

People should be allowed to riot, murder and loot as long as they don't show up in a bus?

I'm not wasting my time finding the articles again, but a substantial number of people being arrested in Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle and Louisville had not even been from the Cities.

The downtown Chicago looting, people road in on rental trucks and cars in droves to smash up downtown.

Again, if you are legitimate in your support of the protests, you should be glad. Stop the violence and destruction, stop the outside agitators who have alterior motives.

Stop that and then you'll stop the conservative back lashes.

Then you might actually have people take you serious.

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 12:14 PM

Point out a single instance of people being "bused" in. I see a bunch of conservative fake news sites spouting unsubstantiated bullshit about Soros buses and organization, while actual, vetted, news organizations constantly refute it.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/anti-trump-protesters-bused-into-austin/

https://www.13wmaz.com/article/news/local/rumors-about-violent-dublin-protest-are-false/93-77fbf4c9-2986-4e7b-bb65-0807d8922292

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/social-media/klamath-falls-oregon-victory-declared-over-antifa-which-never-showed-n1226681

https://news.wfsu.org/wfsu-local-news/2020-06-03/tallahassee-police-say-theres-no-basis-to-rumors-of-thousands-of-protestors-being-bused-into-the-city-with-ill-intent

https://trib.com/news/local/casper/city-organizers-say-no-evidence-antifa-or-outside-protesters-will-be-bused-into-casper-on/article_bd3972c1-75af-586d-9665-d6437c10089c.html

What kind of dumb fuck thinks buses would be the appropriate method of transportation, anyway? "Yeah, we'll use 45-foot-long, 10-foot-high vehicles that stand out like a sore thumb to do exactly what our detractors are saying we'll do."

they wouldnt do something so brazen would they...
https://twitter.com/zerosum24/status/1308830351243042816?s=19

https://twitter.com/CptConundrum20/status/1308834021858775048

deolio

09-23-2020, 01:12 PM

Again, if you are legitimate in your support of the protests, you should be glad. Stop the violence and destruction, stop the outside agitators who have alterior motives.

You need to lear to read between the lines my man.

A. Prohubition on Violent or Disorderly Assemblies: 3rd degree felony when 7 or more persons are involved in an assembly and cause damage to property or injury to other persons.

That means if ONE PERSON in a crowd of 7+ causes ANY damage, they can arrest EVERYONE. Guilty by association, which is just a bullshit excuse to intimidate protesters. I can guarantee there will be agitators at BLM protests as well as Anti-mask protests. It's a lose-lose situation for both sides and a major threat to the first amendment. If some fucking windows and insured merchandise is worth more to you than freedom of speech, you aren't a patriot, you are a traitor.

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 01:30 PM

Do you honestly think anyone is believing your bullshit? We're literally watching your violent mobs live every night while you say theyre peaceful protestors.

PoorMans180SX

09-23-2020, 01:33 PM

Disclaimer: I'm a libertarian.

That law enforcement protection act is bullshit, unconstitutional, and unnecessary. Just charge the people with destruction of property.

delio that quote you posted is hilariously hypocritical, talking about how right-wing neighbors are fantasizing about murdering you but saying it's right-wing people who are conspiracy theorists LOL.

Smells like communist propaganda to me! (I'm mostly kidding, but propaganda and hyperbole it definitely is).

Things are coming to a head. It's gonna get wild out there. Just a while longer and the entirety of America is going to be a powderkeg, and this is how great empires always fall. History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.

Corbic

09-23-2020, 02:34 PM

You need to lear to read between the lines my man.

Not sure how one "Lear" between the lines.

That means if ONE PERSON in a crowd of 7+ causes ANY damage, they can arrest EVERYONE. Guilty by association, which is just a bullshit excuse to intimidate protesters. I can guarantee there will be agitators at BLM protests as well as Anti-mask protests. It's a lose-lose situation for both sides and a major threat to the first amendment. If some fucking windows and insured merchandise is worth more to you than freedom of speech, you aren't a patriot, you are a traitor.

As it should be.

These mobs are willingly and knowingly providing cover to the agitators.

If you and the home boys go into a gas station to steal snacks and Lil Tweek'e decides to gat the attendant... Ya'll liable to face felony murder charges.

Also, nice hyperbole, didn't realize tossing bricks into windows was considered "protected" speech. Also, who said the merchandise was insured? That's a big fucking assumption.

Can I break someone's nose as long as they have health insurance?

deolio

09-23-2020, 04:59 PM

Do you honestly think anyone is believing your bullshit?

Yes. Far more logical reasoning than a bunch of conspiracy theories rooted in white nationalism.

We're literally watching your violent mobs live every night while you say theyre peaceful protestors.

Shall we judge the police and politicians by the same standard and call them murderers and looters?

delio that quote you posted is hilariously hypocritical, talking about how right-wing neighbors are fantasizing about murdering you but saying it's right-wing people who are conspiracy theorists LOL.

Smells like communist propaganda to me! (I'm mostly kidding, but propaganda and hyperbole it definitely is).

Go back a few pages in this very thread and you'll see zombiewolf and s14rebuild mention their bloodlust for liberals not to mention all the bullshit I've seen people post across the internet... Hyperbole not detected.

Things are coming to a head. It's gonna get wild out there. Just a while longer and the entirety of America is going to be a powderkeg, and this is how great empires always fall. History doesn't repeat itself, but it does rhyme.

And the right is cheering it on the entire time without realizing they're encouraging the collapse of society because they think it's the American thing to do :facepalm:

These mobs are willingly and knowingly providing cover to the agitators.

Source? From everything I've seen, protestors have been trying to subdue and chase off agitators/rioters.

Also, nice hyperbole, didn't realize tossing bricks into windows was considered "protected" speech. Also, who said the merchandise was insured? That's a big fucking assumption.

Can I break someone's nose as long as they have health insurance?

Bruh, can you even read at all? Seriously. Take a big breath and count to ten and try reading again without putting the words you want to hear me say in my mouth.

Here, I'll go slowly.

Protesting is protected
by the
first amendment.
PROTESTING
Not rioting.
Ok?

Now, if they put legislation into effect that charges anyone in the vicinity of an agitator with a felony, people are going to stop protesting for fear that agitators will be intermixed with the crowd, start breaking shit, and FUCK everyone.

People with ill-intentions can just keep showing up at protests, breaking something, and fucking off and leaving peaceful protesters to be detained and charged with felonies.

Now you're thinking, "that'd only happen at a BLM protest," but someone could just as easily show up at an anti-mask rally or a sportball team win, huck a brick through a window, run away, and leave the tin/sportteam hat squad to suffer the consequences (though, there probably wouldn't be any consequences because they're all white and stuff).

So then I think to myself, "is this law really written to prevent rioting, or is it to prevent protesting?" And in every scenario I can think of, protesting/protesters are the ones who get fucked the hardest.

I'm baffled by how people who tote the Gadsden flag around and then turn around and support bullshit laws. Not enough facepalm emoji's in the world.

Also, I'm sure all you Republicans would agree, if your merchandise and your store itself isn't insured, that's a you problem. Maybe don't have a store in such a bad neighborhood. Probably should have invested in security. Shoulda sat on the roof with a rifle. And so on and so forth... :keke:

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 05:39 PM

>we can police our own fuck da pohlease
>we cant keep violent agitators out of our protests
make up your mind

dont be a violent criminal, dont get shot by the police. it works for the rest of us. why not you?

also, i dont have an issue with liberals, i have an issue with communists. you cant make the distinction though, so i cant fault you for that.

KA24DESOneThree

09-23-2020, 05:43 PM

So that's your argument.

People should be allowed to riot, murder and loot as long as they don't show up in a bus?

I'm not wasting my time finding the articles again, but a substantial number of people being arrested in Minneapolis, Portland, Seattle and Louisville had not even been from the Cities.

The downtown Chicago looting, people road in on rental trucks and cars in droves to smash up downtown.

Again, if you are legitimate in your support of the protests, you should be glad. Stop the violence and destruction, stop the outside agitators who have alterior motives.

Stop that and then you'll stop the conservative back lashes.

Then you might actually have people take you serious.

Hold up. You said buses. Now you're saying they're not buses, they're out-of-towners in cars and rental trucks.

Which one is it? Buses or cars and rental trucks? The definitions aren't the same, so either you're regurgitating a very common lie deliberately, or you're too ignorant to know the difference between your fake news and real life. You're constantly and consistently moving the goal posts in a bad faith effort to discredit anyone who disagrees with your unsubstantiated Facebook-derived shit. Who's buying people these cars? Or are they perhaps the people's own cars because they're trying to get from their small town to a larger city to be part of something that might actually make the news?

If I was to head from north SD county to a protest in San Diego proper, would I be an out-of-town agitator or would I simply be going to where my voice will be most heard? My town is unincorporated, so it has to play by SD's rules and is governed by the SD sheriffs- or am I making a little too much sense?

Would you support literally every single one of the non-violent protesters on both sides at last year's Charleston rally being charged with a third-degree felony for the actions of one asshole in a Challenger? That's what you're supporting.

PS- Philando Castile (shot and killed), Breonna Taylor (shot and killed), Linden Cameron (shot and somehow survived), Elijah McClain (restrained and overdosed on EMT-administered ketamine at officer's order). All non-violent. All shot or killed by police. One was a 13-year-old autistic white kid. What about the family whose toddler was flash banged? Oh yeah, wrong address. The woman killed by a cop who started shooting wildly at a friendly dog? It was an accident. The people killed by cops speeding to non-emergency calls? Do all of those people just count as collateral damage in your war against eeeeeeeeeevil?

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 05:58 PM

Would you support literally every single one of the non-violent protesters on both sides at last year's Charlottesville rally being charged with a third-degree felony for the actions of one asshole in a Charger? That's what you're supporting.

So you're admitting there was very fine people on both sides?

The only people that should have been charged for that is Redneck Revolt. I know you have the memory of a goldfish, but damn

deolio

09-23-2020, 06:06 PM

>we can police our own fuck da pohlease
>we cant keep violent agitators out of our protests
make up your mind

Clearly the police can't keep from EMPLOYING violent criminals themselves. 6 of one half dozen of another.

dont be a violent criminal, dont get shot by the police. it works for the rest of us. why not you?

No one is protesting about the death of violent criminals. Just innocent ones. Quit letting the fake news taint your brain and twist the intention of protest into something that fits their narrative.

also, i dont have an issue with liberals, i have an issue with communists. you cant make the distinction though, so i cant fault you for that.

So all you do all of this complaining because you DON'T have an issue? Ok, I guess that sounds about as rational as all of your other arguments...

Corbic

09-23-2020, 06:13 PM

Clearly the police can't keep from EMPLOYING violent criminals themselves. 6 of one half dozen of another.

No one is protesting about the death of violent criminals. Just innocent ones. Quit letting the fake news taint your brain and twist the intention of protest into something that fits their narrative.

So all you do all of this complaining because you DON'T have an issue? Ok, I guess that sounds about as rational as all of your other arguments...

Calls police violent criminals while lecturing people about fake narratives... Sure okay.

Floyd, Rasheed and dude in Kenosha where all violent pieces of shit and you burned those cities down.

Breanna was a drug dealer who got killed in a shoot out between her boyfriend and the cops.

Corbic

09-23-2020, 06:15 PM

Do all of those people just count as collateral damage in your war against eeeeeeeeeevil?

And what about the +30 people now killed during these riots and the thousands injured?

Don't their lives matter?

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 06:19 PM

You dont realize the cops are the only thing keeping your communities safe from the boogeyman youre actively trying to manifest with your rhetoric. doubt you understand what that means, but whatever.

>shoots at police
>not a violent criminal
k

The issue is your rhetoric is counterintuitive to any form of actual civil rights movement. We see you.

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 06:30 PM

someone just shot at the cops at your 'peaceful protest' in Louisville. Explain that one.

deolio

09-23-2020, 06:30 PM

Calls police violent criminals while lecturing people about fake narratives... Sure okay.

Floyd, Rasheed and dude in Kenosha where all violent pieces of shit and you burned those cities down.

Breanna was a drug dealer who got killed in a shoot out between her boyfriend and the cops.

I can play this goalpost-pushing game all day my guy.

Let it burn baby! Everything is on fire these days anyway.

You dont realize the cops are the only thing keeping your communities safe from the boogeyman youre actively trying to manifest with your rhetoric. doubt you understand what that means, but whatever.

>shoots at police
>not a violent criminal
k

The issue is your rhetoric is counterintuitive to any form of actual civil rights movement. We see you.

Keeping me safe from trying to make America a better place instead of a cesspool of corruption and racism?

Am I manifesting this by telling you and your reight wing cronies things you don't want to hear?

You mean counterproductive? How so? What is "my" rhetoric? Go ahead and put words in my mouth.

Corbic

09-23-2020, 06:37 PM

Hold up. You said buses. Now you're saying they're not buses, they're out-of-towners in cars and rental trucks.

Oppps, you got me!

Live Stream right now is them using Uhauls to hand out signs, shields and clubs.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200924/aa66c3e23057feb0b7ade52e6b481d6e.jpg

Snopes: Corbic is clearly wrong, Uhauls are not Buses. Therefore, agitators are not being bussed in to riot.

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 06:40 PM

someone just shot at the cops at your 'peaceful protest' in Louisville. Explain that one.

I'll wait.

*edit

your rhetoric is counterintuitive
shooting at the cops at a 'peaceful protest' full of people carrying 2x4s, steel pipes, and bats is counterproductive

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 06:42 PM

Let it burn baby! Everything is on fire these days anyway.

How so? What is "my" rhetoric? Go ahead and put words in my mouth.

wow that was hard

KA24DESOneThree

09-23-2020, 07:27 PM

And what about the +30 people now killed during these riots and the thousands injured?

Don't their lives matter?

*sings*

Cit-a-tion nee-ded.

Goddamn, my dogs are now howling. Thanks, Corbic.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/10/facebook-posts/post-inflates-number-police-killed-connection-prot/

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200810/fact-checking-claim-about-deaths-damage-from-black-lives-matter-protests

OH GOD, THEY'RE HANDING OUT SIGNS!?! BOOG-LEVEL THREAT IDENTIFIED. STRAP ON THE AIRSOFT KIT, LOAD UP SOME KNOCKOFF MAGPULS, AND PREPARE YOUR PALMETTO STATE AR WITH CHINESE RED DOT, IT'S TIME TO RUMBLE WITH THEM COMMIES!

EDIT: AR400 WILL STOP COMMIE ROUNDS, RIGHT? MY PLATE CARRIER IS FROM AMAZON AND SOME OF THE STITCHING IS IFFY.

yes i know 400 means the average brinell hardness and not weight jesus i went to metal school

deolio

09-23-2020, 07:57 PM

someone just shot at the cops at your 'peaceful protest' in Louisville. Explain that one.

Cops shot first

wow that was hard

Just here to keep the trolls fed :kiss:

But like for real, I'm not a Liberal. The world isn't black and white (or red and blue for that matter). My rhetoric is pro-American ideals, not this perverse divisive conspiracy theory chaos that liberals and republicans seem to be hell bent on pushing onto everyone.

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 07:58 PM

holy shit this kids a sperg

all police shootings are justified.

deolio

09-23-2020, 08:09 PM

holy shit this kids a sperg

all police shootings are justified.

Should I report you for using a derogatory term for people with Asperger syndrome or is outing you as human trash yet again enough justice?

Yess yesssss keep eating KEEP EATING we need you and Corbic nice and plump for our under-bridge stew!

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 08:33 PM

you mean like the sperg with the knife that got blasted the other day? lol

Corbic

09-23-2020, 08:36 PM

*sings*

Cit-a-tion nee-ded.

Goddamn, my dogs are now howling. Thanks, Corbic.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/10/facebook-posts/post-inflates-number-police-killed-connection-prot/

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200810/fact-checking-claim-about-deaths-damage-from-black-lives-matter-protests

OH GOD, THEY'RE HANDING OUT SIGNS!?! BOOG-LEVEL THREAT IDENTIFIED. STRAP ON THE AIRSOFT KIT, LOAD UP SOME KNOCKOFF MAGPULS, AND PREPARE YOUR PALMETTO STATE AR WITH CHINESE RED DOT, IT'S TIME TO RUMBLE WITH THEM COMMIES!

EDIT: AR400 WILL STOP COMMIE ROUNDS, RIGHT? MY PLATE CARRIER IS FROM AMAZON AND SOME OF THE STITCHING IS IFFY.

yes i know 400 means the average brinell hardness and not weight jesus i went to metal schoolI didn't say police. I said people.

Floyd Riots alone 26 people.

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/tyler-o-neil/2020/07/05/say-their-names-20-people-killed-in-the-george-floyd-riots-n592577

S14rebuild

09-23-2020, 08:45 PM

*sings*

Cit-a-tion nee-ded.

Goddamn, my dogs are now howling. Thanks, Corbic.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/10/facebook-posts/post-inflates-number-police-killed-connection-prot/

https://www.statesman.com/news/20200810/fact-checking-claim-about-deaths-damage-from-black-lives-matter-protests

OH GOD, THEY'RE HANDING OUT SIGNS!?! BOOG-LEVEL THREAT IDENTIFIED. STRAP ON THE AIRSOFT KIT, LOAD UP SOME KNOCKOFF MAGPULS, AND PREPARE YOUR PALMETTO STATE AR WITH CHINESE RED DOT, IT'S TIME TO RUMBLE WITH THEM COMMIES!

EDIT: AR400 WILL STOP COMMIE ROUNDS, RIGHT? MY PLATE CARRIER IS FROM AMAZON AND SOME OF THE STITCHING IS IFFY.

yes i know 400 means the average brinell hardness and not weight jesus i went to metal school

Who the fuk buys knock off magpul mags? There 8.99! Unless ur splerging for window cut mags at12.99

Plus if ur not wearn ar500 dipped in bedliner......ur a BOT

Corbic

09-23-2020, 08:47 PM

4Chan already found the women that rented the Uhall.

Turns out she was in Charleston and is part of the "Bail Project" that pays bail for rioters.

Nope, nothing to see here, just local peaceful protesters...

https://nationalfile.com/report-soros-linked-bail-project-employee-rented-u-haul-that-handed-out-shields-to-potential-rioters/

zombiewolf513

09-23-2020, 08:59 PM

Who the fuk buys knock off magpul mags? There 8.99! Unless ur splerging for window cut mags at12.99

Plus if ur not wearn ar500 dipped in bedliner......ur a BOT

i love when they project their lack of weapons knowledge onto literal weapons experts with military grade hardware and experience lol. its just too funny not to mention

kid was just looking for an excuse to look cool posting his 'be a cucked communist revolutionary starter kit' for virtue signal points.

zombiewolf513

09-24-2020, 01:01 AM

https://twitter.com/KittyLists/status/1309019515628523521?s=20

real peaceful hitting people from behind in the back of the head with metal bats and all.

SimpleS14

09-24-2020, 06:12 AM

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2020/11/what-if-trump-refuses-concede/616424/

TL;DR - Trump campaign will file a flood of legal challenges to stop counting ballots after election night. This will cause delays leading to Republican majority state legislatures (in battleground states) to bypass election results and picking Trump loyalist electors, thus giving Trump the electoral college win.

IMO, this is an extreme scenario that I don't see happening. However, if the results are too close, it's really not out of the realm of possibility and nothing says it would be unconstitutional.

SupaDoopa

09-24-2020, 06:39 AM

KA24DESOneThree

09-24-2020, 12:48 PM

Sorry Supa, you just triggered me and I realized my arguments don't have merit so, in a flurry of self-doubt and fear of your strong masculinity, I called the forum police, who I don't believe in because ACAB but who I need because my weak arms make it impossible for me to punch, even though I can form a fist and raise it at every communist riot I'm a part of.

Also Corbic, I'm sorry. I should've never doubted you because your pjmedia.com link is unassailable and is impeccably well-written and researched. I particularly like the Twitter posts letting us know the mindset of each killer.

S14rebuild

09-24-2020, 12:50 PM

^guys a cuck......run along find ur key.

Phlip

09-24-2020, 12:52 PM

There hasn't been a reported post on this forum in over a week.
Someone is dealing with flawed information

Phlip

09-24-2020, 12:53 PM

There hasn't been a reported post on the whole forum in over a week.
Someone is dealing with flawed information

Corbic

09-24-2020, 01:06 PM

https://mobile.twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1309020430938836993

Corbic

09-24-2020, 01:08 PM

Also Corbic, I'm sorry. I should've never doubted you because your pjmedia.com link is unassailable and is impeccably well-written and researched. I particularly like the Twitter posts letting us know the mindset of each killer.

So are you saying those people are not dead? Search each name. You are the one challenging the idea that +30 people have now died because of these "peaceful protests".

deolio

09-24-2020, 01:25 PM

People still report people on forums? How fucking weak are you? That's the equivalent of crying like a fucking bitch when someone eats one of your cookies from your little snack pack in the first grade during lunch. Have a fucking spine.

D?awww lil baby can?t take a joke?

A spine? A spine like all your boys bending over backwards doing mental gymnastics trying to prove to themselves why a racist, sexist, mentally unstable sociopath deserves to run the country for another 4 years? Ok, so no spine for me then, thanks!

There hasn't been a reported post on the whole forum in over a week.
Someone is dealing with flawed information

S14rebuild

09-24-2020, 01:29 PM

Trumps racist? Do share...

zombiewolf513

09-24-2020, 01:32 PM

...why a racist, sexist, mentally unstable sociopath deserves to run the country for another 4 years?

so youre against Biden?

deolio

09-24-2020, 01:34 PM

so youre against Biden?

Him too, yes. Thanks for pointing out what I?ve already said 4000 times. You sure are good at reading.

deolio

09-24-2020, 01:35 PM

Trumps racist? Do share...

Here we go with the ignorance again...

S14rebuild

09-24-2020, 01:42 PM

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/national/2017-08-14/trump-condemns-kkk-neo-nazis-and-white-supremacists-criminals-and-thugs

Is this ignorance? Just asking...

KA24DESOneThree

09-24-2020, 01:44 PM

So are you saying those people are not dead? Search each name. You are the one challenging the idea that +30 people have now died because of these "peaceful protests".

I'm the one challenging the idea that they're dead as a result of the protests.

Correlation does not imply causation. I'd write the Latin but I'm afraid it'd sexually excite you.

Have you seen the movie "Nightcrawler?"

zombiewolf513

09-24-2020, 01:53 PM

you watch too many movies. If he didnt actually want to be president, he wouldnt be president. what a stupid comment chock full of cope.

What movies? huehuehue

I'm the one challenging the idea that they're dead as a result of the protests.

Correlation does not imply causation. I'd write the Latin but I'm afraid it'd sexually excite you.

Have you seen the movie "Nightcrawler?"

what are you talking about? 'have you seen movie X?' Thats a real edumacationesu youve got their senpai.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5irLGINf8Gk

deolio

09-24-2020, 02:11 PM

https://www.jacksonville.com/news/national/2017-08-14/trump-condemns-kkk-neo-nazis-and-white-supremacists-criminals-and-thugs

Is this ignorance? Just asking...

Yes. Ignorance confirmed.

His actions say otherwise. Ruthlessly going after the Central Park 5, barring black people from renting in his properties, encouraging use of force against protestors, calling Covid ?Chinese virus?, pitching a ?black vs white? season of The Apprentice, trying to bar the construction of a Muslim cultural center, the Obama birth certificate witch hunt, etc, etc need I continue?

spooled240

09-24-2020, 02:28 PM

can we just all agree that Trump might make a decent Joker?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doZE4Yqog5I

S14rebuild

09-24-2020, 02:34 PM

Yes. Ignorance confirmed.

His actions say otherwise. Ruthlessly going after the Central Park 5, barring black people from renting in his properties, encouraging use of force against protestors, calling Covid ?Chinese virus?, pitching a ?black vs white? season of The Apprentice, trying to bar the construction of a Muslim cultural center, the Obama birth certificate witch hunt, etc, etc need I continue?

Sounds AMERICAN...not racist. But when someone out right condemns a know and stated racist group, thats not good enough?.

By your logic, words mean nothing...so everything stated period is bullshit and doesnt matter. Legit

deolio

09-24-2020, 02:41 PM

Sounds AMERICAN...not racist.

Like I said, bending over backwards and doing mental gymnastics...

If that?s American, then America is racist. Are you sure you aren?t a closeted Liberal Antifa rioter? Might want to check yourself for blue hair and REEEEE

Corbic

09-24-2020, 04:11 PM

Yes. Ignorance confirmed.

His actions say otherwise. Ruthlessly going after the Central Park 5, barring black people from renting in his properties, encouraging use of force against protestors, calling Covid ?Chinese virus?, pitching a ?black vs white? season of The Apprentice, trying to bar the construction of a Muslim cultural center, the Obama birth certificate witch hunt, etc, etc need I continue?

Reeeeee REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

Let me know when he makes a gaff about how black kids are just as smart as poor white kids.

KA24DESOneThree

09-24-2020, 04:26 PM

Symptoms of REEEEE? (Liberalis Antifariotalta) may include: painted nails, tattoos of the night sky inside the silhouette of a bear/elk/mountain, pierced eyebrow(s), and political projection.

S14rebuild

09-24-2020, 04:35 PM

Like I said, bending over backwards and doing mental gymnastics...

If that?s American, then America is racist. Are you sure you aren?t a closeted Liberal Antifa rioter? Might want to check yourself for blue hair and REEEEE

Where would ANY of my posts point you to the direction of me being liberal antifa? Lmfao..... first you say im racist, n now this..... ur so confused. Ill take the racist card lmao

deolio

09-24-2020, 05:50 PM

Ill take the racist card lmao

Damn, I thought this moment would bring joy, but instead I?m just disappointed. Go up to your room and wait for your father and mother/sister to come talk to you.

S14rebuild

09-24-2020, 06:24 PM

Damn, I thought this moment would bring joy, but instead I?m just disappointed. Go up to your room and wait for your father and mother/sister to come talk to you.

Well its what i was "labled" here.lol

I dont really care what anyone thinks..its a car forum..
Nothing in this thread matters...all i wanna see is it locked come the following day after the election.

silverarrow27

09-25-2020, 01:12 AM

For the Libertarians on here, are you voting for Jo Jorgensen? If so, why? Do you completely agree with the Libertarian ideology as their ideology are somewhat similar to Republicans?

Some of their ideas were a bit shocking when I first read what the Libertarian Party was in support of.

KA24DESOneThree

09-25-2020, 08:30 AM

I'm not team Jo.

Somewhat similar to Republicans? You can't even get through the preamble of the LP platform without realizing that the two are diametrically opposed as they currently exist today. The LP and the Republican Party may have, at one time, been more closely aligned but that time was long, long ago.

I do not completely agree with the LP platform because, simply, their platform is no longer possible in this reality.

SupaDoopa

09-25-2020, 09:00 AM

Voting for anyone at this point is just a waste of a vote. This election is more so a publicity stunt than anything. What they're trying to publicize is how fucked up our country is. Shit, Kenya is probably laughing at us. We have the Crypt Keeper Pelosi low-key runing shit after she impeached the President for doing something not relevant to anything yet Clinton is still sitting there jabbering lettering her gullet flap in the wind. There is zero accountability. If you sit here and try to say you're actually proud to be an American, you're either missing some teeth and ride a pick up truck or in a mental asylum. The idea of this country is pretty sweet but after seeing the inner workings of this shit become public, voting is a waste.

This is why I'm running. Write in SupaDoopa on your 2020 ballot. I'll send you a free rotisserie chicken once a week and your choice of either alpaca or wool socks once a year to keep those feeties nice and toasty in the cold, winter months.

TheRealSy90

09-25-2020, 09:39 AM

Can we all just agree that if Biden wins the election (god forbid) that we all know he won't be the one calling any of the shots or making any decisions whatsoever on his own volition. The guy can't even stay cognizant of a conversation he is in the middle of. His presidency would be entirely by proxy and all decisions made by his Democratic handlers.

SupaDoopa

09-25-2020, 11:17 AM

Isn't that what all Presidents are though? They're essentially a spokesperson of all those who funded the win. They don't have the average Joe's best interest in mind, it's a hidden back door deal that somehow benefits someone else indirectly. Look at the salary a politician makes but look at what half of them are worth. It's disgusting. They open a fund or send their kids to go work somewhere as a boss twiddling their dicks and getting STD's to come back millionaires. Biden's kid did it. Kid is almost as braindead as his dad.

If you honestly get triggered by what's happening, sorry but nothing you can do or say will change it. Buy your guns if you want some now, loot while you're protected if you want to and play the race card now if you want to because eventually, we're going to be such a second thought that they won't even tell us what's happening anymore. You'll just find out after it happens.

KA24DESOneThree

09-25-2020, 12:00 PM

This is why I'm running. Write in SupaDoopa on your 2020 ballot. I'll send you a free rotisserie chicken once a week and your choice of either alpaca or wool socks once a year to keep those feeties nice and toasty in the cold, winter months.

Guy, don't vote for Supa. He doesn't even know that we don't need alpaca or wool socks in SoCal.

Sending vegans a free rotisserie chicken is anti-veganist and he knows it.

silverarrow27

09-25-2020, 01:19 PM

Voting for anyone at this point is just a waste of a vote...

Actually it's not a waste if you vote for Jo Jorgensen. All she needs is 15% of the popular vote by The People to "win". What I mean by that is by receiving 15% of the popular vote, that allows the Libertarian Party to participate in the Presidential Debates in 2024 on stage with the DNC and RNC. It will be a long term win as oppose to an immediate win.

I find myself center-right, but would love to see more options instead of the usual two.

SupaDoopa

09-25-2020, 02:11 PM

I'm aware of the rules and I think by default, she'll get the percentage she needs so her party has the floor to present a different case than the other two parties. You'll also get the crowd who don't want to vote for either so chuck a vote that way. If she doesn't hit her mark, I'll be very surprised and interested what sort of fuckery we've implemented to make that happen.

deolio

09-25-2020, 02:32 PM

I don’t agree with 100% of the Libertarian ideology, but it sure as shit is better than anything the Republicans and Democrats have to offer.

Lower taxes
Less government oversight
Less international intervention
End the war on drugs
Etc etc

Corbic

09-25-2020, 02:44 PM

I don?t agree with 100% of the Libertarian ideology, but it sure as shit is better than anything the Republicans and Democrats have to offer.

Lower taxes
Less government oversight
Less international intervention
End the war on drugs
Etc etc

Sounds a lot like.... Trump.

deolio

09-25-2020, 04:27 PM

It’d does, but Jo isn’t a complete douche bag.

zombiewolf513

09-25-2020, 07:10 PM

Biden demands troops clap while addressing them as 'stupid bastards'

https://twitter.com/KeithWoodsYT/status/1309585338587852802

https://www.nicepng.com/png/detail/147-1477570_dankest-jeb-bush-memes-jeb-bush-carrying-chairs.png

silverarrow27

09-25-2020, 08:18 PM

deolio

09-25-2020, 08:33 PM

I voted for the Libertarian Presidential Candidate in 2016 hoping we'd hit the 15% mark, alas I think the votes were close, but weren't enough. I think the LP candidate ended up getting around 12 or 13% IIRC. Maybe we'll be lucky to get the needed 15% this time around.

I voted for Gary Johnson as well. He got 13% of the vote. Pretty sure Jo can hit 15% as long as people don?t get cold feet.

S14rebuild

09-26-2020, 06:37 AM

Mail in ballot was waiting for me in the mailbox when i got home. Ill be sending it intoday and will also check at the early polling places. Make sure my vote counts.

Phlip

09-26-2020, 09:39 AM

My grandmother's absentee came in the mail to my mom's house the other day. I will make sure to vote for her as she would have, even though she died two years ago.

S14rebuild

09-26-2020, 11:19 AM

My grandmother's absentee came in the mail to my mom's house the other day. I will make sure to vote for her as she would have, even though she died two years ago.

You would..:picardfp:

zombiewolf513

09-27-2020, 10:37 AM

The Crisis by Thomas Paine; Dec 23, 1776

https://www.ushistory.org/paine/crisis/c-01.htm

Not for the low IQ.

KA24DESOneThree

09-27-2020, 12:01 PM

I agree.

"Let them call me rebel and welcome, I feel no concern from it; but I should suffer the misery of devils, were I to make a whore of my soul by swearing allegiance to one whose character is that of a sottish, stupid, stubborn, worthless, brutish man."

zombiewolf513

09-27-2020, 12:52 PM

Judging by your TDS based response, you didnt actually read it. Back to your daddy's shop.

KA24DESOneThree

09-28-2020, 10:06 AM

You're right. I pulled a single line out of a 517-word paragraph in the bottom third of the work because I didn't read it. That makes perfect sense.

Here's a fun read about Kushner: https://www.justsecurity.org/69094/timeline-on-jared-kushner-qatar-666-fifth-avenue-and-white-house-policy/

The mere fact that constant conflicts of interest were either ignored or covered-up sully the reputation of the United States globally.

I'll save s14 and zombie some time: cuck, TDS, socialist, daddy, rawdog, liberal, fake news.

zombiewolf513

09-28-2020, 10:25 AM

Anyone, not going full potato on their big brothers account, read this? https://www.ushistory.org/paine/crisis/c-01.htm - The Crisis by Thomas Paine; Dec 23, 1776

SupaDoopa

09-28-2020, 10:34 AM

Jo will hit 15% this time around. Most people just need that other option.

KA24DESOneThree

09-28-2020, 10:38 AM

I don't think she will, but the wave of anti-government sentiment may drive people into her arms.

More people who are on the fence are holding their noses and voting for Biden than they were for Clinton. Trump was an unknown clown who didn't stink as badly as he does now.

Future240

09-28-2020, 11:50 AM

You would..:picardfp:

:fp:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/018/467/1355331549061.jpg

zombiewolf513

09-28-2020, 11:56 AM

It's not gonna look like a joke come December lol

hell, with the stuff that just started to come out about Ilhan Omar, we're almost already there and it isnt even October.

SupaDoopa

09-28-2020, 12:46 PM

He's a clown to those who see the man and not the work behind it. I'll never quite understand how people judge a President based on what happens. I know this idea seems pretty stupid but everything has to be passed through proper channels before it lands on his desk. He isn't just waving a wand and doing what he wants. He's IMPEACHED. He has ZERO power.

S14rebuild

09-28-2020, 01:40 PM

:fp:
https://i.kym-cdn.com/entries/icons/facebook/000/018/467/1355331549061.jpg

Yes cause im sure the forum admin would post his illegal activities here...philips alittle smarter then that...

deolio

09-28-2020, 02:08 PM

SupaDoopa

09-28-2020, 03:18 PM

For someone who makes a statement that he's $300M in the hole doesn't understand the basic principles of business. If you show positive net, you get taxed accordingly. Showing losses - which are also asset acquisition, paying off property, upkeep, etc. - is how you avoid paying the man. Smart businessmen dump crazy money at the end of the year to show operating costs which help level out their incomes. In the business I run, I do the same and those I cater to do the same. A legal loophole.

So... That's where he is. Duping your ass without you even knowing how he's doing it and you assuming he's a fucking clown.

#ThanksMastersInBusiness

deolio

09-28-2020, 03:42 PM

I understand how the taxes work. What I don't understand is the debt unless he isn't actually abusing the loophole orrrr he's just letting it ride until the man comes to collect and then going to sick his team of lawyers on them like he loves to do. Either way, the optics aren't great for a president.

KA24DESOneThree

09-28-2020, 04:23 PM

Pity he didn't bootstrap himself out of the losses.

Corbic

09-28-2020, 05:08 PM

So where are all the Trump supporters at who said "Trump is a great businessman and America is a business" now? Posting losses for a decade leading up to the election and being more than 300 million in debt doesn't exactly scream "great businessman" to me...I really don't understand this argument.

What exactly are you basing "success" on if not being world famous, owning billions in property and real estate, partying like a Rockstar, having an awesome family, adored by hundreds of millions and tearing the presidency from the jaws of one of the most cunning political figures in the US?

So what is it, we should let rich people buy the presidency or Trump isn't rich enough to be president?

Corbic

09-28-2020, 05:09 PM

Pity he didn't bootstrap himself out of the losses.Yeah, dude seriously needs to give ya boy Hunter a call.

Didn't see a single payment from Russia nor any write offs for cocaine and sex slaves. Hunters got that shit locked down!

S14rebuild

09-28-2020, 05:25 PM

So where are all the Trump supporters at who said "Trump is a great businessman and America is a business" now? Posting losses for a decade leading up to the election and being more than 300 million in debt doesn't exactly scream "great businessman" to me...

Yea cause trump achieved all and everything he has as being poor and broke.... maybe he should vote for biden then?

KA24DESOneThree

09-28-2020, 06:15 PM

Yeah, dude seriously needs to give ya boy Hunter a call.

Didn't see a single payment from Russia nor any write offs for cocaine and sex slaves. Hunters got that shit locked down!

Deflection.

deolio

09-28-2020, 07:00 PM

I really don't understand this argument.

My argument is that people claiming that being a good businessman somehow qualifies him to run the country is bullshit because he apparently isn't such a good businessman if he's in debt.

But the more I think about it, the more I realize he's just collecting free money. He's only in debt until his lawyers argue that he isn't in debt and burry the debtee(s) in endless paperwork and bullshit until the end of time.

So, I renig on my assessment of him being a shitty businessman and instead say he's just an extremely unethical one and more of a con-man if anything. I know this won't make an impact in any Trump supporters mind anyway, so just ignore me as I pontificate :rofl:

SimpleS14

09-28-2020, 07:37 PM

KA24DESOneThree

09-29-2020, 08:20 AM

This certainly puts a spotlight on the complex federal tax codes and how some really work the system to seek tax avoidance.

I'm more concerned with the amount of guaranteed debt ($421 million) that's coming due through the next four years. That kind of liability is not good for a sitting U.S. president, as it can sway political decisions that might not be good for the nation.

Funny enough, that amount of debt is less than the Kushners were trying to get a loan from Qatar for.

It was enough to have Jared's clearance knocked from top secret to secret for that very reason- until Donny had it reinstated.

Read my link above and understand that this administration is rotten to the core.

deolio

10-02-2020, 09:28 PM

So like... What a shit show!

SimpleS14

10-03-2020, 07:40 AM

So like... What a shit show!

This is the October surprise I was not anticipating. The following week is going to be very interesting. If the SC nominee announcement event is anything to learn from, it can take a few days from infection before a positive test is confirmed.

I certainly hope everyone that contracts it survives, but it should be a lesson learned to take this seriously and follow appropriate measures.

kingkilburn

10-03-2020, 08:39 AM

So, how's covid19 treating everyone?

zombiewolf513

10-03-2020, 08:51 AM

I certainly hope everyone that contracts it survives, but it should be a lesson learned to take this seriously and follow appropriate measures.

It took a high risk individual that travels across the country, meeting poeple every day and holding rallys of 40,000+ people, 9 months to contract it. Noone is buying your grandstanding.

kingkilburn

10-03-2020, 09:41 AM

It took one instance of lax protocols in Cleveland and a complete lack of response to the possibility that Hope Hicks could be compromised.

Then you have the complete batshit situation of the scotus nomination event. We still don't know who walked into that with full blown covid19. My money is on Barr or Conway, but either way, someone walked in there fully sick with no mask and hugged and talked nose to nose with dozens of important people.

With how this president and staff treat rules and best practices it was always a race between vaccines and dumbassery.

kingkilburn

10-03-2020, 10:17 AM

And now Chris Christie has covid19. He was coaching(HAH) Trump for the debate and said no one wore masks or social distanced.

kingkilburn

10-03-2020, 10:53 AM

Trump's doctor just implied that Trump had a covid19 diagnosis BEFORE the debate. How many counts of criminal negligence is that?

S14rebuild

10-03-2020, 05:49 PM

Dont really see the big deal, he has it. Not a death sentence. He will be just fine.

Future240

10-04-2020, 01:35 AM

Dont really see the big deal, he has it. Not a death sentence. He will be just fine.

Herman Cain says hello.

S14rebuild

10-04-2020, 08:25 AM

What about the other 200k plus?. If yall think trump is gonna suffer or die from this yall fukn dumb

midnight zenki

10-04-2020, 12:45 PM

What about the other 200k plus?. If yall think trump is gonna suffer or die from this yall fukn dumb

You just never know until it’s over I suppose. Doesn’t help being elderly and obese. Let us all pray he drinks the disinfectant and cleanses his body of this horrid virus, guess the hydroxyqlourquine was’t cutting it.

They need to call in Kenneth Copeland, he’ll handle this https://youtu.be/m2s0nB2VPvs

S14rebuild

10-04-2020, 02:44 PM

You just never know until it?s over I suppose. Doesn?t help being elderly and obese. Let us all pray he drinks the disinfectant and cleanses his body of this horrid virus, guess the hydroxyqlourquine was?t cutting it.

They need to call in Kenneth Copeland, he?ll handle this https://youtu.be/m2s0nB2VPvs

Really funny fonzi

LEG1T

10-04-2020, 05:39 PM

midnight zenki

10-04-2020, 07:12 PM

Really funny fonzi

Damn straight, this shit is entertaining as fuck. Beat reality tv I’ve seen in years:drama:

zombiewolf513

10-04-2020, 09:03 PM

Some Hoax this virus is....

Months ago he was bashing people for being politically correct as they were trying to protect themselves by wearing masks.

Now I see images of him wearing a black mask claiming to have COVID

His whole presidency has been a clown show of stupidity that we?ve all been forced to witness.

Hope the country wakes up and doesn?t ignore the warnings of our world and votes him out of office.

>Can't differentiate between wearing a mask with COVID vs without COVID

He should've had the borders closed back in 2016, so that's where he fucked up and got us all infected.

Good thing the world isn't supposed to vote for what's in America's best interests.

Corbic

10-04-2020, 10:12 PM

Some Hoax this virus is....

Months ago he was bashing people for being politically correct as they were trying to protect themselves by wearing masks.

Now I see images of him wearing a black mask claiming to have COVID

His whole presidency has been a clown show of stupidity that we?ve all been forced to witness.

Hope the country wakes up and doesn?t ignore the warnings of our world and votes him out of office.And when he wanted travel restrictions back in February he was called a racist and xenophobic.

Can't win.

Masks don't do shit.

The whole point of the shut downs was to "flatten the curve" and get the medical community up to spread to deal with this.

We have.

Fuck, hospitals have now been laying off people like they were part of the travel industry.

Time to let this shit run its coarse just like we did with SARs, AIDs and Swine Flu (N1H1).

Corbic

10-04-2020, 10:14 PM

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1312309478667083777?s=20

Corbic

10-04-2020, 10:22 PM

Herman Cain says hello.Dude was 74 had Stage IV Colan Cancer, a shot liver and a bunch of other health issues.

In a non-election year it would have just been a foot note of dying from complications brought on by influenza.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28745014/

Abstract

Severe influenza infection represents a leading cause of global morbidity and mortality. Although influenza is primarily considered a viral infection that results in pathology limited to the respiratory system, clinical reports suggest that influenza infection is frequently associated with a number of clinical syndromes that involve organ systems outside the respiratory tract. A comprehensive MEDLINE literature review of articles pertaining to extra-pulmonary complications of influenza infection, using organ-specific search terms, yielded 218 articles including case reports, epidemiologic investigations, and autopsy studies that were reviewed to determine the clinical involvement of other organs. The most frequently described clinical entities were viral myocarditis and viral encephalitis. Recognition of these extra-pulmonary complications is critical to determining the true burden of influenza infection and initiating organ-specific supportive care.

In sort, the majority of people get weakened from any number of ailments and influenza kills them off.

"he didn't die from the gun shot, he died from the blood loss".

kingkilburn

10-04-2020, 11:53 PM

Two posts if you not knowing what the fuck you're talking about again and one of that guy like he's some kind of authority. Weak shit, man.

Corbic

10-05-2020, 12:28 AM

Two posts if you not knowing what the fuck you're talking about again and one of that guy like he's some kind of authority. Weak shit, man.Oh look, you have nothing to contribute again. Shock.

KA24DESOneThree

10-05-2020, 08:30 AM

"It's been a very interesting journey, I learned a lot about COVID," Trump said in pre-recorded remarks. "I learned it by really going to school. This is the real school. This isn't the let's-read-the-book school, and I get it, and I understand it."

What does this even mean? This dude is the President of a country where hundreds of thousands of people have died as a result of a new pandemic and it took him getting sick to actually pay fucking attention and supposedly understand?

SupaDoopa

10-05-2020, 09:14 AM

He understands the struggles people are going through when they contract it. He knows what the symptoms are like, he knows how it effects people now and he understands why it's a problem.

You're also assuming the death tolls are COVID-19 related only as if these people weren't knocking on the door already. You even have celebrities testing false positives all the time. People on the fucking television advocating that the system is fucked. People are so pumped to say they have it or it's a contributing factor and want to publicize.

Shit is dumb and it will almost indefinitely fall off once the election takes place. 'Look how mighty I am, I have defeated the undefeatable virus' if Biden wins or we will drag this shit out until something else happens if Trump wins. It's politics, people.

For those who think they're doing something good for themselves and not others for wearing that shit, wear a plastic bag over your head instead and seal it tight so none of your germs get on me.

RalliartRsX

10-05-2020, 09:42 AM

........Its amazing to see the trumpazzess rationalize all this lol

I am just going to sit here and eat some popcorn. I have come to realize that even refuting with hard evidence and spoken words from trump's mouth right up until he contracted the virus is meaningless.....

The next 4 weeks is gonna be lit!!!!

deolio

10-05-2020, 09:54 AM

deolio

10-05-2020, 09:57 AM

Fucking god damn double post get your shit together zilvia

SupaDoopa

10-05-2020, 10:24 AM

Let?s take a look at a case study from an extremely small sample group.

Participant A regularly denies the severity of the pandemic and associates with others who think the same and refuse to wear masks. They make fun of participant B, who listens to scientists and always wears a mask.

Participant A gets Covid. Participant B does not.

HMMMM what?s going on here??? Is science done by scientists actually backed by scientific evidence?! No, it can?t be! It?s all political! REEEEE

So you're saying that the mask you're wearing is going to deter you from contracting a virus that can be taken in from skin contact, airborne particles and other means? Why haven't we been wearing masks when TB or the measles or norovirus or chickenpox, zika, HIV and other shit when we had such a piece of cutting edge technology to keep us from getting that sort of stuff? Who would have thought a piece of cotton that traps particles in it and then inhaled through it's large, porous holes defeating it's purpose anyways.

Or, your ventilation system at work or in restaurants or in your apartment complex or fucking anywhere literally moving all that air to every nook and cranny without having the true means to filter a particle that small. Man, patient B really has all this shit figured out.

Wow. To think. A mask could have solved this whole thing. We really are a stupid species. How did we even make it this far from evolution to now without such an amazing invention that is the cotton mask that clearly states it doesn't do shit on the package or bag or whatever corner you bought them from.

A mask. Who knew. You sure you have no plans to run for office any time soon? Your way of thinking really would revolutionize the progression of our country.