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Phlip
11-11-2020, 10:08 AM
There is proof to what trumps campain is sayn... but is it enough??


Tell us more about this "proof," please.
The judges don't seem to buy it (https://www.npr.org/2020/11/10/933112418/the-trump-campaign-has-had-almost-no-legal-success-this-month-heres-what-they-ve).

State that are within "automatic recount" territory will do so and we always knew that. It seems though, that if there was a case to be made in regards to some voting irregularity or outright laws broken, then they admin would be making that case.
It is almost as if they seem to think that running out the clock will work.

S14rebuild
11-11-2020, 10:17 AM
Again ive are listed in this thread proof that trumps campaign is using for their claims. WHAT THEY SAY...not me or you. Thats upto the courts.

I only stated georgias recount as basic info to add to the thread


Yall really need to chill... lol

S14rebuild
11-11-2020, 10:19 AM
Trumps Pennsylvania lawsuit is basicly

1. The counting of votes that were not certified and checked with q republican poll watcher present. By a court order qnd law must be present. The state was knowingly violating this right in block poll workers from doing their job.

2. In high democratic turn our districts. When an error was found on q ballot it was given qn opportunity to be "cured" corrected so it can be counted. This was untrue and not qllowed in high turn out republican districts and the ballots were discared/ not counted in the election

These are the claims in Pennsylvania. There are over 70 witness filed swore affiliateds and more evidence filed along with this.
Trump os contesting over 400,000 votes at this time in the state..well abouve the diffrence margin. This actually has some traction cause of prior bush vs gore decision in courts. "Equal protection clause"- were all counted votes done so EQUALLY?...


None of this is true?....

kingkilburn
11-11-2020, 10:46 AM
You are taking criticism of Trump and Trump fans as criticism of you. You need to chill.

Phlip
11-11-2020, 11:03 AM
None of this is true?....
Considering evidentiary standards, no.
As presented, that is hearsay until there is some evidence. Nobody can just go into a courtroom and say "trust me" and expect their desired outcome. I will wait to be proven wrong on this.

S14rebuild
11-11-2020, 11:11 AM
You are taking criticism of Trump and Trump fans as criticism of you. You need to chill.

Your right....fuk my feelings

S14rebuild
11-11-2020, 11:13 AM
Considering evidentiary standards, no.
As presented, that is hearsay until there is some evidence. Nobody can just go into a courtroom and say "trust me" and expect their desired outcome. I will wait to be proven wrong on this.

70 swore withness will go under oath stating this..there are multiple video evidence of polls throwning out watchers. Covering windows and moving barriers out of lawful ranges.

What the courts say is upto them. Im not here tryn to convince anyone..i find this all interesting. Wanna see where it all goes thats all

SupaDoopa
11-11-2020, 11:26 AM
So, GOP is in a likely position to win the Senate and have the Supreme Court. Biden is one fuck up away from being powerless. Glad y'all are sitting here defending him until your keyboard stops working.

What happened to those states Biden thought he won? Looks like they're not blue anymore. Uh-oh!

KA24DESOneThree
11-11-2020, 11:36 AM
The best friend I've ever had is so ancap that he refused college grants because fuck the government.

I got ancap enough when I was going to a state school (that I was paying for, despite having a scholarship) that I dropped the fuck out. Then I got bitter enough I never went back.

Realism only became an issue as my role in the business grew, then became more of an issue after I started my second business. Going through a vetting process to ensure your products are made ethically opens your eyes a little.

I do not care about rep lol make it a red wave baby. Seems like all the pro-Trump guys have negative rep lmao so I rather not be on the same side of some of you green rep people. You guys support a pedophile. Has anyone read Joe Biden's daughters leaked dairy, Ashley Biden.

The diary details Ashley Biden?s unhealthy relationship with sex, and the ?probably not appropriate? showers she shared as a young girl with her father, Joe Biden.

I bit, so I looked around. There is not one, and I mean not a single fucking one of the mainstream sources saying anything about this. Not Vice, not The Intercept, not Fox. Consider your source.

Also keep in mind that some of us don't support Biden, we just want to see Trump led away from the White House in absolute disgrace.

zombiewolf513
11-11-2020, 11:52 AM
Who gives a shit what MSM says or doesn't say. Weren't you just ranting about how subversive MSM is a few pages back? Your opinions change with the wind

but youre not that 'some of us', are you

S14rebuild
11-11-2020, 12:03 PM
Also keep in mind that some of us don't support Biden, we just want to see Trump led away from the White House in absolute disgrace.

Yea those are the people we salute with a fuck you!

The others that actually beleve in a candidate and what they hope will lead America are true patriots. Be it left or right....

To vote against someone cause ur feelings are hurt is the biggest pussy move ive ever heard.

deolio
11-11-2020, 12:51 PM
To vote against someone cause ur feelings are hurt is the biggest pussy move ive ever heard.

How do you figure? I think by now we?ve found that no one who sticks around in this thread has hurt-able feelings. At this point, Biden is just the damage control option.

True patriotism is wanting what?s best for your country and if that means replacing an orange pedophile with a sleepy one, so be it. The only unpatriotic way to vote is to not vote at all.

S14rebuild
11-11-2020, 01:00 PM
How do you figure? I think by now we?ve found that no one who sticks around in this thread has hurt-able feelings. At this point, Biden is just the damage control option.

True patriotism is wanting what?s best for your country and if that means replacing an orange pedophile with a sleepy one, so be it. The only unpatriotic way to vote is to not vote at all.

Gonna be along 4 yrs.... bend over cause creepy joe is about to fuck us all...

zombiewolf513
11-11-2020, 01:14 PM
Imagine the cognitive dissonance it takes to be proud of voting for someone whom you believe is in some way a pedophile.

KA24DESOneThree
11-11-2020, 03:17 PM
The others that actually beleve in a candidate and what they hope will lead America are true patriots. Be it left or right....

To vote against someone cause ur feelings are hurt is the biggest pussy move ive ever heard.

Again, learn to read. Learn to listen. Learn to learn. Instead, you're busy running your mouth like you're Trump. Ignorance is bliss and you're chasing the dragon. Put down the belt, stop tapping to find a vein, and start actually understanding what you read. This isn't a fucking battle and I'm not on the other end of your scope, nor are you on mine. There's nuance here, goddammit.

Zombie, see... that's the thing. You think that I was ranting against the MSM when in reality the fake news, know-nothing, profit-as-the-only-motive motherfuckers are all right-leaning. OAN is certifiable bullshit. All that other tripe you and s14 and Corbic and the other guys I literally don't even care enough about to remember spew, all the unsubstantiated, hearsay rumors, all the "well I lost the information" dumbshits are created to milk you and people like you. You're the fucking product. Your rage and your inability to think critically drive site visits. You're a walking, talking click-through-rate. You're a marketer's wet dream because you're so fucking delusional, you'll keep coming back to the Enquirer to see whether or not they found BatBoy's BatMom or if Mork was actually from Ork.

I'm surrounded by goddamn zombies. Mindless, brainless automatons going through the motions of living.

We're coming out to get you
We're all so glad we met you
We're eating you for profit
There's no way to stop it
You will find there is no safe place to hide, hide

Do you feel alive?

S14rebuild
11-11-2020, 03:41 PM
Again, learn to read. Learn to listen. Learn to learn. Instead, you're busy running your mouth like you're Trump. Ignorance is bliss and you're chasing the dragon. Put down the belt, stop tapping to find a vein, and start actually understanding what you read. This isn't a fucking battle and I'm not on the other end of your scope, nor are you on mine.

EXCUSE ME! IM NOT A FUCKING CRACK HEAD!

I get high like an gentleman would......by snorting a line of a top dollar escorts buttocks.

Phlip
11-11-2020, 03:43 PM
What he described was heroin. Opiates are the new black

!Zar!
11-11-2020, 03:44 PM
Tbt to when Trump called the military, losers.

S14rebuild
11-11-2020, 04:08 PM
What he described was heroin. Opiates are the new black



Well excuse me....

zombiewolf513
11-11-2020, 05:50 PM
He called John McCain a loser, not the military. 'Clap for that ya stupid bastards'

kingkilburn
11-11-2020, 06:06 PM
Was he insulting John's service?

S14rebuild
11-11-2020, 06:13 PM
Trump told a conservative forum in Iowa in 2015 that his view of McCain changed when McCain lost the 2008 presidential election to Obama. “He lost, so I never liked him as much after that, ’cause I don’t like losers,” he said. Trump went on to dismiss McCain’s war service: “He’s not a war hero. He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured.”

S14rebuild
11-11-2020, 06:27 PM
I got ancap enough when I was going to a state school (that I was paying for, despite having a scholarship) that I dropped the fuck out. Then I got bitter enough I never went back.

Realism only became an issue as my role in the business grew, then became more of an issue after I started my second business. Going through a vetting process to ensure your products are made ethically opens your eyes a little.



I bit, so I looked around. There is not one, and I mean not a single fucking one of the mainstream sources saying anything about this. Not Vice, not The Intercept, not Fox. Consider your source.

Also keep in mind that some of us don't support Biden, we just want to see Trump led away from the White House in absolute disgrace.

https://thejewishvoice.com/2020/10/ashley-bidens-alleged-journal-circulates-online-is-it-real/

Found this...idk if its real or not..... someone should..


Seems fukd up if its not real...

deolio
11-11-2020, 06:36 PM
Gonna be along 4 yrs.... bend over cause creepy joe is about to fuck us all...

I think we?re all a bit too old for him

Imagine the cognitive dissonance it takes to be proud of voting for someone whom you believe is in some way a pedophile.

You wanna talk about cognitive dissonance look at everything the Republican Party does and says. Can?t talk for 5 minutes without shooting themselves in the foot.

I voted for Jo, not Joe. I won?t give in to a system that makes me choose between two pedo?s. I will, however, happily root for the downfall of one as I?m bidin? (hah pun) my time waiting for the downfall of the other.

Just keeeeeep spewing foil hat propaganda in defense of a worthless shitbird of a president and see how much progress you make lol

zombiewolf513
11-11-2020, 07:22 PM
I think we're all a bit too old for him

I will, however, happily root for the downfall of one as I'm bidin? (hah pun) my time waiting for the downfall of the other.

w9MiS9tn_r4


You're defending a pedophile and claiming that voting for a pedophile is patriotic.

True patriotism is wanting what's best for your country and if that means replacing an orange pedophile with a sleepy one, so be it.

Just keeeeeep spewing foil hat propaganda in defense of a worthless shitbird of a president and see how much progress you make lol

I'll take my chances.

deolio
11-11-2020, 07:34 PM
You're defending a pedophile and claiming that voting for a pedophile is patriotic.

Two words:
1. READING
2. COMPREHENSION

I'm saying if your idea of what's best for the country is to replace one for another, then that's on you. Either way they're both pedo's.

Green Arrow
11-11-2020, 07:46 PM
Its supposed to be “Ridin’ with Biden”, not “Ridin’ Biden”. He’s a creep, and it’s well documented. And Kamala is no better, we all know how she got to power lol.

“NO JOBS AND BL*WJOBS 2020”

kingkilburn
11-11-2020, 08:06 PM
They're both creeps. One is a rapist involved in sex trafficking minors to the rich and powerful. The other can't keep his gross hands to himself.

Then you have all the genocidal ethno-nationalism...

I'm neutral at best on Biden. Trump is on another level of garbage.

RalliartRsX
11-11-2020, 08:35 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpOnt1cByT4&ab_channel=TheDailyShowwithTrevorNoah

Yep. This was 2018. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.........

And this straight from Fox NEws

Phlip
11-12-2020, 05:05 AM
And now the lawyers begin to back away from the Hail Mary:
https://www.reuters.com/article/snell-maricopa-idUSL1N2HY005

I look forward to when it is only him and Giuliani trying to sell this case to anyone who will listen while everyone looks at them like you might the troop of crackheads who are singing Disney songs on the Vegas strip. No one puts money in their bucket, but it is strangely drawing to continue to watch.

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 05:21 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpOnt1cByT4&ab_channel=TheDailyShowwithTrevorNoah

Yep. This was 2018. Bunch of fucking hypocrites.........

And this straight from Fox NEws


4yrs of russian collusion aswell.....

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 05:24 AM
And now the lawyers begin to back away from the Hail Mary:
https://www.reuters.com/article/snell-maricopa-idUSL1N2HY005

I look forward to when it is only him and Giuliani trying to sell this case to anyone who will listen while everyone looks at them like you might the troop of crackheads who are singing Disney songs on the Vegas strip. No one puts money in their bucket, but it is strangely drawing to continue to watch.


Its like nascar....either watch for the winner or watchn for the wreck lol

RalliartRsX
11-12-2020, 05:41 AM
4yrs of russian collusion aswell.....

And not one single Dem went to court and shouted election fraud, with a shit ton of lawsuits and with a bunch of lies

Dem didn't try to undermine democracy . There were phone calls with Russia. And a shit ton of people in the trumo sphere got arrested because of the investigation . And the senate is so far down trumps dick they dear not upheavr the trump as a useful idiot cover for literally non agendas. 10 years later and not a.singlr document for Healthcare and its been infrastructure week for 4 years now....

Yeah. Not the same.

But good job trying to run on whataboutism....

Phlip
11-12-2020, 05:44 AM
Its like nascar....either watch for the winner or watchn for the wreck lol

I went to my first Nascar race when I was 16, despite living less than an hour from four tracks that were in use into my adulthood (well, one stopped the Cup series my senior year in HS. Only two are in use now). The only thing I remember is that it was loud as fuck as close as we were and there were no wrecks.

RalliartRsX
11-12-2020, 05:47 AM
And regardless S14, the point is; the gop is hypocritical as hell when 2 years ago yall were bitching about the Dem accepting the results.

That's my point

Same rules. Same rules of engagement. And here we are......

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 05:54 AM
Well if the Republicans keep the senate, bidens gonna get harassed till he has a stroke lol

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 05:56 AM
And not one single Dem went to court and shouted election fraud, with a shit ton of lawsuits and with a bunch of lies

Dem didn't try to undermine democracy . There were phone calls with Russia. And a shit ton of people in the trumo sphere got arrested because of the investigation . And the senate is so far down trumps dick they dear not upheavr the trump as a useful idiot cover for literally non agendas. 10 years later and not a.singlr document for Healthcare and its been infrastructure week for 4 years now....

Yeah. Not the same.

But good job trying to run on whataboutism....

And spyn on a presidental canadates campaign is nothing either lol


Dish it but cant take it. Funny

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 05:57 AM
Didnt biden said last debate he wont except the election resukts till it was independently certified?...idk maybe i was hearing things

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 06:07 AM
And regardless S14, the point is; the gop is hypocritical as hell when 2 years ago yall were bitching about the Dem accepting the results.

That's my point

Same rules. Same rules of engagement. And here we are......


Its not the same, there was no computer glitches, no magical vote numbers swingly wildly, poll watchers were allowed todo their legal job. None of that has happened before...

Seriously ur HATE for trump has made it impossible to have a normal conversation with you reguarding politics. Atleast im open to seeing things the other way.

Phlip
11-12-2020, 07:47 AM
Didnt biden said last debate he wont except the election resukts till it was independently certified?...idk maybe i was hearing things
If only there were footage of him saying this during the debate somewhere on the internets. Remember, post what he was responding too when he said it for context when you find it.

RalliartRsX
11-12-2020, 07:56 AM
Its not the same, there was no computer glitches, no magical vote numbers swingly wildly, poll watchers were allowed todo their legal job. None of that has happened before...

Seriously ur HATE for trump has made it impossible to have a normal conversation with you reguarding politics. Atleast im open to seeing things the other way.

Again, and I have been asking this. Where is your proof?? Alot of what you say is grounded in ignorance in HOW various states count thier votes, which we have demonstrated time and time again, is not he same across the board. trump is 0/12 court cases being thrown out....ITS the same fucking rules as in 2016!

If there was proof, we would have seen it by now....

And if you were open, then you wouldn't bitch about trump running up all these lawsuits and then the very next page, use trumps lawsuits as "proof" of your allegations....

IJS.....

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 08:00 AM
If only there were footage of him saying this during the debate somewhere on the internets. Remember, post what he was responding too when he said it for context when you find it.


Full context-
https://youtu.be/1miwDWst-IQ

Phlip
11-12-2020, 08:02 AM
Its not the same, there was no computer glitches, no magical vote numbers swingly wildly, poll watchers were allowed todo their legal job. None of that has happened before...

"No computer glitches"...
This one is laughable. There is ALWAYS computer glitches, it is the nature of the beast, and it is even worse when municipalities insist on using old shitty voting machines.
https://www.npr.org/2016/10/26/499450796/some-machines-are-flipping-votes-but-that-doesnt-mean-theyre-rigged

"Vote numbers swinging wildly"...
That, sir, is simple mathematics when one candidate is telling his supporters that anything other than an in-person vote is fraudulent and the other tells his to use any safe legal means to have their voice heard during a fucking pandemic. The late-to-the-party votes arrive and shift the count noticeably. Trump has no one to blame but himself for that.

"No poll watchers"...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/11/trump-lawyers-suffer-embarrassing-rebukes-judges-over-voter-fraud-claims/
Under sharp questioning from Judge Paul S. Diamond, however, they conceded that Trump in fact had ?a nonzero number of people in the room,?

I should note that videotaping inside these locations is illegal to the point where these leaked videos would likely not be admissible evidence in these court cases.

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 08:03 AM
Again, and I have been asking this. Where is your proof?? Alot of what you say is grounded in ignorance in HOW various states count thier votes, which we have demonstrated time and time again, is not he same across the board. trump is 0/12 court cases being thrown out....ITS the same fucking rules as in 2016!

If there was proof, we would have seen it by now....

And if you were open, then you wouldn't bitch about trump running up all these lawsuits and then the very next page, use trumps lawsuits as "proof" of your allegations....

IJS.....


What is good enough proof to you to show cause? Video evidence of windows being covered up?, eyewitness testimony?

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 08:05 AM
"No computer glitches"...
This one is laughable. There is ALWAYS computer glitches, it is the nature of the beast, and it is even worse when municipalities insist on using old shitty voting machines.
https://www.npr.org/2016/10/26/499450796/some-machines-are-flipping-votes-but-that-doesnt-mean-theyre-rigged

"Vote numbers swinging wildly"...
That, sir, is simple mathematics when one candidate is telling his supporters that anything other than an in-person vote is fraudulent and the other tells his to use any safe legal means to have their voice heard during a fucking pandemic. The late-to-the-party votes arrive and shift the count noticeably. Trump has no one to blame but himself for that.

"No poll watchers"...
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/11/11/trump-lawyers-suffer-embarrassing-rebukes-judges-over-voter-fraud-claims/


I should note that videotaping inside these locations is illegal to the point where these leaked videos would likely not be admissible evidence in these court cases.


https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/software-incorrectly-gave-biden-thousands-votes-mi-implicated-ga-glitches

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 08:06 AM
If the courts find all of it bullshit, im good with those answers/verdicts. But to flat out say none of this exists.....is crazy.

Phlip
11-12-2020, 08:16 AM
Full context-
https://youtu.be/1miwDWst-IQ

"Will you urge your supporters to stay calm while the vote is counted and will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?"

Biden: "Yes, here's the deal. They count the ballots as you pointed out. Some of these ballots in some states can't be opened until election day. And if there's thousands of ballots, it's gonna take time to do it--..." *video ends*
^^^ You see that last part, where the video ends while he is still talking? THAT was the "context" I specifically asked for that you failed to provide in an attempt to support your point.



Every single election of my lifetime except 2000 has had a predicted winner on election night and an acceptance/concession speech was made that night/morning. The associated press has always compiled that from the districts' reporting.
That has never been the "official" outcome, as states have until 12/01 to certify, that is when it is legal. The forecast has never been wrong though.
Given the nature of this years election and the number of non-in-person votes and a president screaming "FRAUD" for three years because he knew he was facing an uphill climb, this year was going to be different.
At this point, I really just want the shit to be over.

RalliartRsX
11-12-2020, 08:23 AM
What is good enough proof to you to show cause? Video evidence of windows being covered up?, eyewitness testimony?

Random, out of context videos is NOT proof. ESPCIEALLY when the rules of engagement in terms of how to view ballots, etc, was already finalized prior the election and which was agreed to by BOTH SIDES and which one of trumps lawsuits, which you quoted several pages back, solidified as such in PA for exampled

As I have said, and will say it again; Counts are observed by an independent council of One GOP, One Dem and 2 independent individuals on the council.

The rules also state, folks need to be within a certain distance of polling stations. Every state has their own rules. The gop agreed to these rules prior to the election

Shoot, the random video of the lady from AZ was absolute shit ( you "eye witness testimony example). The election council allowed her a chance to air out her grievances and address any concerns she had with this random sharpie issue. And then what did she do?? Went ahead anyways with some random ass video and then filed suit which was dropped.......fuck her for that shit.

Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich, a Republican, determined on Thursday that after an investigation, there was nothing to claims that the use of the markers invalidated any ballots.

"Based on correspondence and conversations with Maricopa County officials, we are now confident that the use of Sharpie markers did not result in disenfranchisement for Arizona voters. We appreciate the county's prompt insight and assurances to address public concerns," Brnovich tweeted.

You don't get to retroactively change rules because your team lost.....

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 08:25 AM
"Will you urge your supporters to stay calm while the vote is counted and will you pledge not to declare victory until the election is independently certified?"

Biden: "Yes, here's the deal.


Guess you missed that part. Biden said it..not me

Phlip
11-12-2020, 08:28 AM
Guess you missed that part. Biden said it..not me
What is there to miss about four words to set up a whole statement? It appears you're being obtuse to the fact that he said more than "yes."

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 08:28 AM
Random, out of context videos is NOT proof. ESPCIEALLY when the rules of engagement in terms of how to view ballots, etc, was already finalized prior the election and which was agreed to by BOTH SIDES and which one of trumps lawsuits, which you quoted several pages back, solidified as such in PA for exampled

As I have said, and will say it again; Counts are observed by an independent council of One GOP, One Dem and 2 independent individuals on the council.

The rules also state, folks need to be within a certain distance of polling stations. Every state has their own rules. The gop agreed to these rules prior to the election

Shoot, the random video of the lady from AZ was absolute shit ( you "eye witness testimony example). The election council allowed her a chance to air out her grievances and address any concerns she had with this random sharpie issue. And then what did she do?? Went ahead anyways with some random ass video and then filed suit which was dropped.......fuck her for that shit.



You don't get to retroactively change rules because your team lost.....


Like ive said over qnd over....let the courts settle it..... when its done its done.

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 08:32 AM
What is there to miss about four words to set up a whole statement? It appears you're being obtuse to the fact that he said more than "yes."

He answerd yes....how eles is anyone to take that?

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 08:33 AM
Would you like a chocolate bar?

Yes, but i also love rainbows and snowflakes.....


The answer was yes lol

Phlip
11-12-2020, 08:58 AM
He answerd yes....how eles is anyone to take that?

You can't treat this like people do the bible. There was more to that statement and you know it. You also know how elections have ALWAYS been called by the press before the official December 1 date and what has happened.


It sucks that the candidate that you wanted to win was on the wrong side of the tally and has a toothless-assed legal case pending against it which he might still not accept the outcome of on the other side of it.

Yes, we all want the court cases to be over with and get on with our lives, but I sincerely hope people don't think that after four years of "he won, get over it" and "fuck your feelings" that anyone -- not even those of us who were ever really even at all enthused about Biden to begin with -- will NOW decide to all come together for s'mores and hot cocoa while we sing kumbaya together and hold hands.

!Zar!
11-12-2020, 09:25 AM
He called John McCain a loser, not the military. 'Clap for that ya stupid bastards'

You forgot when Trump said, "Why should I go to that cemetery? It's filled with losers?" Then he called them "suckers" for getting killed.

This was for the fallen Marines (your people) of Belleau Wood.

You're okay with the man you believe in directly hating on your fallen brethren, and disregarding those who paid the ultimate price?

kingkilburn
11-12-2020, 09:35 AM
You're playing this game of being the reasonable conservative in the room while still throwing shit at the walls. If you want a serious conversation you're going to shut up with the gotchas and conspiracy shit, otherwise you can expect the torture to continue until morale improves.

BTW, the windows were covered from the outside by protestors. We all saw it happen. Once officials regained control of the space outside the door the coverings were pulled back down. Facts are facts are facts, and you don't get to bring your own.

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 09:47 AM
You can't treat this like people do the bible. There was more to that statement and you know it. You also know how elections have ALWAYS been called by the press before the official December 1 date and what has happened.


It sucks that the candidate that you wanted to win was on the wrong side of the tally and has a toothless-assed legal case pending against it which he might still not accept the outcome of on the other side of it.

Yes, we all want the court cases to be over with and get on with our lives, but I sincerely hope people don't think that after four years of "he won, get over it" and "fuck your feelings" that anyone -- not even those of us who were ever really even at all enthused about Biden to begin with -- will NOW decide to all come together for s'mores and hot cocoa while we sing kumbaya together and hold hands.


It doesnt suck, ill actually take the election seriously and if all the legal votes are counted and mr.biden won..so be it. Ill accept the results.

All ive been sayn is....im still waitn for these results to come thru. Thats all


And your right there will be no coming together...ever. the nation is divided and will be more then ever. Biden wont and cant fix it. This is reality.

kingkilburn
11-12-2020, 09:50 AM
legal votes

That's that shit, man.

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 09:52 AM
You're playing this game of being the reasonable conservative in the room while still throwing shit at the walls. If you want a serious conversation you're going to shut up with the gotchas and conspiracy shit, otherwise you can expect the torture to continue until morale improves.

BTW, the windows were covered from the outside by protestors. We all saw it happen. Once officials regained control of the space outside the door the coverings were pulled back down. Facts are facts are facts, and you don't get to bring your own.


NONE of us saw this happen.... none of us were there.

If your referring to the same media videos we all post up as ur evidence.... then wheres ur PROOF to ur "facts"


See we can both do this.

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 09:53 AM
That's that shit, man.

Yup....im waitn for the true count just like u are....whatever the result...im good with

!Zar!
11-12-2020, 10:44 AM
Who remembers in 2016 when Trump claimed, "I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally".

This dude stays claiming voter fraud and playing victim.

zombiewolf513
11-12-2020, 10:48 AM
Was he insulting John's service?

that's quite a glass house you've built there

RalliartRsX
11-12-2020, 11:02 AM
Speaking of voter fraud

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-supporter-arrested-requesting-absentee-234948543.html

So we have the idiot in NV who shouted "Sharpie" and literally had no case. YOu have the "sworn affidavids" which equate to a bunch of "poll watchers" bitching about not knowing the rules. You have pretty 100% of trump's court cases being thrown out. And now, you have this dude in PA signing his dead mom ballot to vote for trump.


A Pennsylvania man has been arrested after allegedly forging the signature of his dead mother on an application for an absentee ballot.

Robert R. Lynn, 67, of Luzerne County has been charged with felony counts of forgery and interference with an election, The Huffington Post reports.

Lynn, a Republican and Trump supporter, is accused of requesting an absentee ballot for his mother Marie P. Hannigan, who died in 2015. The application noted Hannigan’s reason for the request as “visiting great-grandkids Oct. 24-Nov. 10,” the complaint states, according to the report

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 11:25 AM
Speaking of voter fraud

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-supporter-arrested-requesting-absentee-234948543.html

So we have the idiot in NV who shouted "Sharpie" and literally had no case. YOu have the "sworn affidavids" which equate to a bunch of "poll watchers" bitching about not knowing the rules. You have pretty 100% of trump's court cases being thrown out. And now, you have this dude in PA signing his dead mom ballot to vote for trump.


Holy shit! Theres voter fraud! Look! Its all a sham!!!


I see your 1 and raise you..

https://ktemnews.com/limestone-county-social-worker-faces-137-election-fraud-charges/

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 11:30 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-senate-election-runoffs-democrats-move-there.amp

This is........

!Zar!
11-12-2020, 11:40 AM
Holy shit! Theres voter fraud! Look! Its all a sham!!!


I see your 1 and raise you..

https://ktemnews.com/limestone-county-social-worker-faces-137-election-fraud-charges/

FYI the lady being charged (Kelly Reagan Brunner) is an open supporter of Trump.

RalliartRsX
11-12-2020, 11:44 AM
S14: And what you are failing to realize is my original statement

That there is such scrutiny for the process, that every single ballot is hand checked. Every single ballot has bar codes. Every single ballot is matched with the persons profile and checked against them being legally eliglble to vote. What my post shows is the process works to weed out these irregularities. He was arrested and charged. How do you think they voting council figured it out?? CHECKS AND BALANCES! Which is what we have been saying since day one. The process WORKS!!

And just like your case, she was arrested and charged. Again the process to weed this out WORKS!

And again, this goes back to the right willfully ignoring the process and exactly HOW the votes are checked

And from Maricopa so yeah....

Even the trump lawyers are like "nah dog, we got nothing....."


From Maricopa County

Judge Kiley presses the Trump campaign:

Their solicitation of witnesses produced sworn affidavits that his own investigation determined were "clearly false," "spam as you put it."

The ones they could not prove were false, they submitted to the court.

Trump camp: "Correct."

Judge Kiley: "This is concerning."

"How is that a reliable process of gathering evidence?"

Langhofer insists: "We've excluded everything that has the indicia of unreliability."

Judge Kiley responds: That's not an indicia of trustworthiness of the remaining affidavits. That just shows you can't disprove what's asserted.

RalliartRsX
11-12-2020, 11:49 AM
All these folks were figured PRIOR to submitting their ballots.........

But yes, please continue to ignore that fact. That these folks were stopped PRIOR to submitting (trump supporting mind you) fraudulant votes

Let that sink in

Not only has the process to weed this shit out works, it just turns out, the cases in question of the attempted fraud is on the side of trump supporters....

It's the same shit; trump several months ago not only told people to NOT vote mail in.

But he also told people to vote TWICE and commit a felony.......

KA24DESOneThree
11-12-2020, 11:52 AM
Unethical but may actually be legal according to the information provided in the article.

Fraud is a violation of the law, but if moving to another state and passing all necessary requirements to vote is legal, then it's not fraud.

How many people do you think are going to uproot their lives for the potential of a seat win?

RalliartRsX
11-12-2020, 12:06 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.foxnews.com/politics/georgia-senate-election-runoffs-democrats-move-there.amp

This is........

SO I guess all those old folks who moved to the sunshine state votes shouldn't count?? Or maybe those Cubans who allowed trump to win FL??

I don't think you read the article....much less the entire article as KA pointed out....
P.S People would have to pick up their entire lives and register to vote by Dec7....which is in 2 weeks. Not like moving next door

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 12:09 PM
FYI the lady being charged (Kelly Reagan Brunner) is an open supporter of Trump.


Thats what yall dont get......

Doesnt matter to me....

Trump or biden.....fraud is fraud

COUNT ALL LEGAL VOTES

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 12:12 PM
SO I guess all those old folks who moved to the sunshine state votes shouldn't count?? Or maybe those Cubans who allowed trump to win FL??

I don't think you read the article....much less the entire article as KA pointed out....
P.S People would have to pick up their entire lives and register to vote by Dec7....which is in 2 weeks. Not like moving next door


To purposely move to Georgia, become a resident just to vote and leave is illegal....

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 12:13 PM
Unethical but may actually be legal according to the information provided in the article.

Fraud is a violation of the law, but if moving to another state and passing all necessary requirements to vote is legal, then it's not fraud.

How many people do you think are going to uproot their lives for the potential of a seat win?


How many fraudulent ballots were casted in this election?


Guess will have to wait and find out...

RalliartRsX
11-12-2020, 12:14 PM
Thats what yall dont get......

Doesnt matter to me....

Trump or biden.....fraud is fraud

COUNT ALL LEGAL VOTES


So you are going to hand wave and ignore my previous post about checks and balances and the fact that it WORKS. Also see Judge in Maracopy county.....

Good.

Thanks for confirming willful ignorance and claiming that as a reason to ask all these "what if" questions.....

Cool.

And they would have to do all that within 2 weeks. When you show me proof again that this is occurring, let me know.

Thanks

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 12:16 PM
https://vosizneias.com/2020/11/11/234-pages-of-sworn-affidavits-allege-election-irregularities-in-one-michigan-county/

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 12:25 PM
So you are going to hand wave and ignore my previous post about checks and balances and the fact that it WORKS. Also see Judge in Maracopy county.....

Good.

Thanks for confirming willful ignorance and claiming that as a reason to ask all these "what if" questions.....

Cool.

And they would have to do all that within 2 weeks. When you show me proof again that this is occurring, let me know.

Thanks

No but the fact that u still think from either side there are rational conversations happening here is halirous....

If u havent figured out that no one gave a shit about ur postion before the election then big suprise we dont give a fuck after. Im not here defending trump or tell biden to fuck off...im simy posting information. Shit that you wanna judge when ur in no position to. Neither myself nor you or anyone in this thread can make any bold statements on it all.

To me i get quiet the lols when "yall" jump so fast to denounce, atttack, shut down and silence any info that u dont agree with.
So whats the next best thing? Keep stirring the pot, keep postin i.fo, li ks, pictures whatever it is. To watch yall jump. Like fishing.

Ive made my points

Votes are still being counted, the election is not over nor certified

Lawsuits have me continually being filed

Lets see what true (not whats on the media) evidence trumps team will submit

Lets facts be facts by court rulings.


EVERYTHING ELES is just shit talking.

deolio
11-12-2020, 12:43 PM
So anyway... Where’s Corbic been? No one has been called a commie in far too long.

!Zar!
11-12-2020, 12:46 PM
So anyway... Where?s Corbic been? No one has been called a commie in far too long.

Probably trying to figure out why his memes didn't equate to a presidency.

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 01:08 PM
Where the fuck is gbaby?

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 01:16 PM
https://youtu.be/_LRrSRljMi8

SupaDoopa
11-12-2020, 01:29 PM
Who remembers in 2016 when Trump claimed, "I won the popular vote if you deduct the millions of people who voted illegally".

This dude stays claiming voter fraud and playing victim.

Who remembers back in 1992 when Trump said 'fuck bitches, get money?'

They should make golden statues of this dude and erect them in front of all of the strip clubs across America. What a patriot.

deolio
11-12-2020, 01:44 PM
If you’re in need of a giggle https://www.instagram.com/tv/CHeqrjXju0c/?igshid=junu7yctj0kd

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 02:10 PM
Nice accent.... that jon oliver?

!Zar!
11-12-2020, 03:21 PM
Who remembers back in 1992 when Trump said 'fuck bitches, get money?'

They should make golden statues of this dude and erect them in front of all of the strip clubs across America. What a patriot.

You're a better racist, than you are a comedian.

SupaDoopa
11-12-2020, 03:58 PM
You're a better racist, than you are a comedian.

You're better at instigating than you are at forming correct sentences.

deolio
11-12-2020, 04:10 PM
Nice accent.... that jon oliver?

Nah, sounds like a kiwi accent. Oliver is British.

It's pretty funny when I come across aussies and kiwis in random Forza lobbies. Seems like they're more up-to-date with American politics than most Americans are. They always seem genuinely concerned for our safety and talk about how sorry they feel about us having to deal with such shitty politicians.
I just sit there like
https://i.pinimg.com/564x/ef/07/9e/ef079e0ec0cb422c6ebf300007f49b86.jpg

!Zar!
11-12-2020, 04:38 PM
You're better at instigating than you are at forming correct sentences.

Where ?

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 04:53 PM
Joe biden just froze out warren and sanders from his cabinet. So much for the awsome progressives.

Phlip
11-12-2020, 05:07 PM
Joe biden just froze out warren and sanders from his cabinet. So much for the awsome progressives.
Or perhaps he'd be best served with them in the Senate, pending the outcome of the Georgia runoffs?

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 05:19 PM
Or perhaps he'd be best served with them in the Senate, pending the outcome of the Georgia runoffs?

Possiably...... them bqcking him was a huge deal for progressives. Just seemd like a shock that he wouldnt want them in the cabinet

Phlip
11-12-2020, 05:25 PM
Possiably...... them bqcking him was a huge deal for progressives. Just seemd like a shock that he wouldnt want them in the cabinet

I am quite sure they understand. He is taking one person from the Senate who will be replaced by her governor. As progressives still in the Senate, they are just the kind of known quantities that a president wants when he will need all the help he can get getting things through.

SimpleS14
11-12-2020, 05:38 PM
Joe biden just froze out warren and sanders from his cabinet. So much for the awsome progressives.

It's probably best they stay in the senate, and depending on the results of the GA runoff elections, they could lead a committee, sub-committee or push/endorse a Biden proposal. Also, Biden could reach out to them for referrals to include staff members with progressive views.

Phlip
11-12-2020, 06:39 PM
^ i guess it is really hard todo the research.
Bush vs. Gore is not qbout 537 votes...smh

Gonna circle back to this...

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/11/09/trump-isnt-gore-how-2020-s-legal-challenges-arent-same-2000/6220157002/

Bush Gore was actually 1784 votes and wound up being 537 after the recounts, which Bush sued to stop, which the Supreme Court granted.
Again, that means that the 537 votes in one state, as I named, was the difference in who became president.

Any parallel anyone attempts to draw between 2000 and now is dead wrong. Trump is behind by thousands (and tens of thousands) in several states, all of which would need to be reversed on a recount to skew in his favor.

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 06:45 PM
This is on repeat.....

Its not about the amount of vote diffrence....what its coming down to is vote equallity protection clause.

What trumps legal team will try to show is that
1- votes in certain counties/districts were allwed to be cured..allowed to be corrected where errors were found. The same was not true in others

2-votes that were cast and not allowed to be sampled/watched by poll watchers were not handled the same as ones that were.

Again...the same equality clause was used in bush v gore.

That is all ive ever said about...nothing about voting numbers or how many more.

I never said trump will win, or have qnd grounds to stand on...but this is the game plan.(from what i can see)

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 06:48 PM
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bush_v._Gore

Here...i beleve its about the 2nd paragraph down....

It was literally the bases of bush lawsuit.

Im done with this....

S14rebuild
11-12-2020, 07:00 PM
Or here...just hear this crazy idea....

What if trump knows he can get a court to hear his lawsuit out but wont win..and draws it out long enough past state vote creditation. Those electoral votes can not be assigned.... he does this in 3 states... and well NOOne hits 270......house vote and trump goes 2nd term. Is it possible?yes...along fucking shot?hell yes...but still trump has ways to still win...very fucking slim and near impossiable. But everyone is focued on voter fraud...thinkn trump wants to prove vote by vote is fake.. nope. Not widespread voter fraud. He only needs to take a few districts in 3 states to swing the whole state.

Just all fucking crazyness

RalliartRsX
11-12-2020, 07:22 PM
https://www.roadraceautox.com/img/bowlcut/EmqNUTpXYAgXLe0.jpg

!Zar!
11-12-2020, 07:25 PM
Or here...just hear this crazy idea....

What if trump knows he can get a court to hear his lawsuit out but wont win..and draws it out long enough past state vote creditation. Those electoral votes can not be assigned.... he does this in 3 states... and well NOOne hits 270......house vote and trump goes 2nd term. Is it possible?yes...along fucking shot?hell yes...but still trump has ways to still win...very fucking slim and near impossiable. But everyone is focued on voter fraud...thinkn trump wants to prove vote by vote is fake.. nope. Not widespread voter fraud. He only needs to take a few districts in 3 states to swing the whole state.

Just all fucking crazyness

Trump can drag this out all he wants. Let it be a contingent election and see what happens. With how quiet the republicans are, next pick definitely won't be ol Trump.

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 04:02 AM
https://www.roadraceautox.com/img/bowlcut/EmqNUTpXYAgXLe0.jpg

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/6184186002

Phlip
11-13-2020, 05:10 AM
Or here...just hear this crazy idea....

What if trump knows he can get a court to hear his lawsuit out but wont win..and draws it out long enough past state vote creditation. Those electoral votes can not be assigned.... he does this in 3 states... and well NOOne hits 270......house vote and trump goes 2nd term. Is it possible?yes...along fucking shot?hell yes...but still trump has ways to still win...very fucking slim and near impossiable. But everyone is focued on voter fraud...thinkn trump wants to prove vote by vote is fake.. nope. Not widespread voter fraud. He only needs to take a few districts in 3 states to swing the whole state.

Just all fucking crazyness

That would make him guilty of something he frequently does in blaming the other side for what he is actually doing.
He has been screaming "they're trying to steal the election," and if he were to try this, that is LITERALLY what it would be

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 05:15 AM
That would make him guilty of something he frequently does in blaming the other side for what he is actually doing.
He has been screaming "they're trying to steal the election," and if he were to try this, that is LITERALLY what it would be

If it works.......

zombiewolf513
11-13-2020, 06:21 AM
that [stealing] is LITERALLY what it would be

No it literally would not.

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 09:12 AM
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime-courts/2020/11/12/trump-campaign-election-2020-presidential-pennsylvania-lawsuit-ballots-late-identification/stories/202011120132

First win in the bag for trump

kingkilburn
11-13-2020, 09:49 AM
Big win there. All few hundred ballots across the state.

In other pennsylvania news...
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/13/business/porter-wright-trump-pennsylvania.html


And finally, a reminder to some of you.

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RalliartRsX
11-13-2020, 10:25 AM
https://www.post-gazette.com/news/crime-courts/2020/11/12/trump-campaign-election-2020-presidential-pennsylvania-lawsuit-ballots-late-identification/stories/202011120132

First win in the bag for trump


None of those votes factored into the counts as they were segregated RIOR to the election as they were first time voters snd could not confirm their identity.

So again, the process to weed these our worked

THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH FRAUDULANT OR THE VOTES ALREADY COUNTED!

These ballots had been segregated pending the judge?s decision and have not yet been counted, so their disqualification will not affect the current vote count in Pennsylvania. Joe Biden won the state, and subsequently the election, on Saturday and currently leads President Trump by more than 54,000 votes.



Dude, please take the time to read past the headline

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 10:26 AM
Lol.... win is a win.. yall salty


Look out FRAUD EVERYWHERE

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 10:28 AM
Lol.... win is a win.. yall salty


Look out FRAUD EVERYWHERE

RalliartRsX
11-13-2020, 10:30 AM
I thought you didn't care about court case??

Lol!

KA24DESOneThree
11-13-2020, 10:34 AM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.freep.com/amp/6184186002

That in no way invalidates anything the EIGCC said.

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 10:44 AM
I thought you didn't care about court case??

Lol!

Whered i say that?

Ive posted numerous times... let it be on the courts, play the cases in courts, lets see what the courts say

Yall the ones sayn..he wont win in court.. hes 0% wins in courts.

Now hes won a case and its. Oh i doesnt matter, its bs, nothing changes....blahh blahh

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 10:45 AM
That in no way invalidates anything the EIGCC said.


Its a case won...that is all i posted

kingkilburn
11-13-2020, 10:56 AM
The sour grapes you're sucking on could power space flight.

Phlip
11-13-2020, 10:57 AM
So you're simply holding out hope behind insignificant cases that do approximately fuckall to votes that were actually even counted?
You're doing an absolute shit job of making any point here.

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 11:20 AM
So you're simply holding out hope behind insignificant cases that do approximately fuckall to votes that were actually even counted?
You're doing an absolute shit job of making any point here.

Not at all...there is no holding out hope lol

Uhhhh.....ive posted qgain and again what lawsuits that matter to make or break trump. When those are shot down or award will determine the certification of this election and a true winner to the election.... until then....im just continuen posting election information and watch yall jump holler and bitvh about it. Kinda funny

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 11:23 AM
The sour grapes you're sucking on could power space flight.


If ur making the comparison of grape plasma to nuclear plasma, id love to see the research on this...

kingkilburn
11-13-2020, 12:39 PM
Grape fired tokamak. The energy revolution will be provided by smucker's.

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 01:09 PM
Grape fired tokamak. The energy revolution will be provided by smucker's.

Lol, let me guess this is all found in the 5 page report explaining the "green new deal"

SupaDoopa
11-13-2020, 02:42 PM
While the votes that are being discounted have not been counted, he was right in saying it is a win for Trump. Biden's real strength was mail-in voting. Again, if you think this system isn't easily manipulated, you're either na?ve or just choose to be ignorant. By blocking these first time voters - which actually would have helped Trump as his polling was stronger in first time voters - he limits the damage that can be done in the catching up in the event the system was tampered with.

Put on your common sense hats instead of flexing the headline without any real sustenance there. Look deeper than the words, folks. Y'all must have just a twenty-minute jerk session anytime some biased news source publicizes something that remotely helps your weird mental agenda. Some of us want to see the winner winning because they deserved it - not because they had to make it happen with other methods.

I don't give a shit who wins but is it really that much of a hoorah if you did it illegitimately? The GOP is about to have the Senate and the Supreme Court. Good luck passing fucking anything. If I were the Dem's, I'd take the L and just come back in four years and focus on other shit rather than just having some clown sit in a seat and be the face of your shit head ideology.

kingkilburn
11-13-2020, 03:28 PM
Cry some more

Phlip
11-13-2020, 03:31 PM
Detroit was having none of that shit:
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/13/judge-rejects-bid-wayne-county-audit-halt-election-certification/6278120002/

S14rebuild
11-13-2020, 04:38 PM
Detroit was having none of that shit:
https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/13/judge-rejects-bid-wayne-county-audit-halt-election-certification/6278120002/


+1

-1

:picardfp:

SupaDoopa
11-13-2020, 07:08 PM
Cry some more

So your response to an intelligent response is to act like a child? Really shows your level of maturity. Make sure you finish your Caprisun and Dunkaroos, big boy.

Phlip
11-13-2020, 07:13 PM
Pennsylvania will not order a recount:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/525896-pennsylvania-secretary-of-state-will-not-order-a-recount

LEG1T
11-13-2020, 08:14 PM
Continuous L’s keep coming for Trump, and there are still dilusional people on here arguing that this election was stolen and that trump won???

Wtf are you guys going on about?? Trump lost then and will continue to loose now.

He lost period..

!Zar!
11-13-2020, 09:15 PM
Continuous L?s keep coming for Trump, and there are still dilusional people on here arguing that this election was stolen and that trump won???

Wtf are you guys going on about?? Trump lost then and will continue to loose now.

He lost period..

They know. They just fall back on: wE jUsT wAnT a FaIr EleCtIoN.

As if it wasn't fair to begin with.

The only thing not fair was all of the Chinese, Middle Eastern, Mexican, and Black individuals that had to put up with this hell for 4 years.

kingkilburn
11-13-2020, 10:12 PM
So your response to an intelligent response is to act like a child? Really shows your level of maturity. Make sure you finish your Caprisun and Dunkaroos, big boy.

There was an intelligent response? Couldn't make it out through all the blubbering.

RalliartRsX
11-13-2020, 10:14 PM
Pennsylvania will not order a recount:
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/525896-pennsylvania-secretary-of-state-will-not-order-a-recount


Also is lawyers in AZ and PA have walked off their cases......

The whole idea the right is pushing is strictly to undermine democracy and its fucking sickening

S14rebuild
11-14-2020, 04:39 AM
Continuous L?s keep coming for Trump, and there are still dilusional people on here arguing that this election was stolen and that trump won???

Wtf are you guys going on about?? Trump lost then and will continue to loose now.

He lost period..


Wheres it say that? Who said trump won?

S14rebuild
11-14-2020, 04:40 AM
They know. They just fall back on: wE jUsT wAnT a FaIr EleCtIoN.

As if it wasn't fair to begin with.

The only thing not fair was all of the Chinese, Middle Eastern, Mexican, and Black individuals that had to put up with this hell for 4 years.

More then ever before had all those mix of people voted for a republican

Green Arrow
11-14-2020, 05:28 AM
Zar if your Canadian why the vested interest in American politics? *clap for that ya stupid bastards.

Phlip
11-14-2020, 06:35 AM
Zar if your Canadian why the vested interest in American politics? *clap for that ya stupid bastards.

He is clearly North Korean.
But I can't go around expecting someone who cannot differentiate a contraction from a possessive to be bothered with reading those details.

ixfxi
11-14-2020, 08:51 AM
The whole idea the right is pushing is strictly to undermine democracy and its fucking sickening

They got you this brainwashed? Thats crazy.

I'm all for open discussions and treating people with respect, but its really wild to see how opinions can differ so vastly.

All I can say is that this is much bigger than all of us, so all we mere mortals can do is sit back and watch the shit show and hope for the best. Should the real results of the election end up in Biden winning, it will be a step back in many ways and we'll just end up with a big time puppet dancing the dance for (insert financially backed interest here).

Left is straight up nuts, all that bullshit about if you aint black you aint for Biden, 8 year old trans rights, stricter gun laws, emissions, and trying to tell me when, where and how to where a mask. The fuck outta here with that bullshit. Give me a nintendo, guns, cars, open up the strip clubs and let this country roll like it used to. How the is this even a discussion.

SupaDoopa
11-14-2020, 08:58 AM
I mean, the shit is rigged. Everyone was tRuMp ChEaTeD iN 2016 but it's not plausible with 180-year-olds casting ballots? I don't give a fuck who wins for the x-th time. Just make the shit legit. COVID is being dragged by it's balls to give Biden the advantage. He's been showing strong poll advantages with mail-in voters [which I have no idea how that can even be calculated]. Now we're all saved. Joe got us that secret sauce that'll clear that pesky Chinese cough.

Phlip
11-14-2020, 11:17 AM
Did the 180 year-old actually VOTE, or was the 180 year-old registered voter just happen to not be removed from voter rolls?
Please remember to cite your sources because one of these things tends to happen often where the other one would be a layup case for putting people away for obvious voter fraud, such as the one where someone was arrested for simply REQUESTING a ballot for their deceased grandmother.

!Zar!
11-14-2020, 11:46 AM
More then ever before had all those mix of people voted for a republican
This has nothing to do with what I said. But I employ you to cite your sources.
Zar if your[sic] Canadian why the vested interest in American politics? *clap for that ya stupid bastards.
The whole world has been heavily invested in the US election.

But forreal though, I'm in North Korea using expressvpn (https://www.expressvpn.com/)
https://southpawbeagle.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/kim-jong-il-angry.jpg

S14rebuild
11-14-2020, 01:34 PM
This has nothing to do with what I said. But I employ you to cite your sources.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/blacks-and-latinos-for-trump-11605048999


Racist man is loved by minorities...fukkkk

Phlip
11-14-2020, 03:40 PM
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.wsj.com/amp/articles/blacks-and-latinos-for-trump-11605048999


Racist man is loved by minorities...fukkkk

You didn't "Subscribe to read the full story," you just shared the first headline that fit your narrative that you found on Google.

Phlip
11-14-2020, 04:04 PM
I'll help you with one that isn't hidden behind a paywall though...
https://www.ft.com/content/69f3206f-37a7-4561-bebf-5929e7df850d

Now when you use the graphic to see he gained (but not by much, of the still considerably less-than-half) with African Americans and Latinx, (13% and 18% of the population, respectively) only to see that he lost ground in less negligible populations (most except for the $100k+), there is no question as to how despite seeing a considerable rise in the NUMBER of votes, he still got bumrushed in the popular vote. More people turned out for him, but even more still turned out AGAINST him.
I will concede that your comment is not inaccurate on its face, but your argument is WILDLY disingenuous when looking anywhere beyond the surface.

RalliartRsX
11-14-2020, 04:18 PM
Cuban identify as conservative.....which it turns out, once the borders were open flooded Miami

Also see Puerto Ricans.....

However trump did make inroads with lots of demographics. However thats not the issue; its the silent vote that's the issue here (this one is for you suburban white women for example)

But that sort of nuanced discussion is lost on everyone on the right...because they all gotta clutch thier pearls

Example; Biden gonna take your gun...completely ignoring the fact a dem has not come after thier guns in decades.....but here we are because the only platform.the gop.has is the boogeyman....

KA24DESOneThree
11-14-2020, 05:53 PM
To be fair, Biden ran on an anti-gun platform. No matter how many times any support says he didn't, it's still there on his website (okay, so it's now on the archived version of his website).

Get weapons of war off our streets. The bans on assault weapons and high-capacity magazines that Biden, along with Senator Feinstein, secured in 1994 reduced the lethality of mass shootings. But, in order to secure the passage of the bans, they had to agree to a 10-year sunset provision and when the time came, the Bush Administration failed to extend them. As president, Biden will:

Ban the manufacture and sale of assault weapons and high-capacity magazines. Federal law prevents hunters from hunting migratory game birds with more than three shells in their shotgun. That means our federal law does more to protect ducks than children. It's wrong. Joe Biden will enact legislation to once again ban assault weapons. This time, the bans will be designed based on lessons learned from the 1994 bans. For example, the ban on assault weapons will be designed to prevent manufacturers from circumventing the law by making minor changes that don't limit the weapon's lethality. While working to pass this legislation, Biden will also use his executive authority to ban the importation of assault weapons.

Regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act. Currently, the National Firearms Act requires individuals possessing machine-guns, silencers, and short-barreled rifles to undergo a background check and register those weapons with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF). Due to these requirements, such weapons are rarely used in crimes. As president, Biden will pursue legislation to regulate possession of existing assault weapons under the National Firearms Act.

Buy back the assault weapons and high-capacity magazines already in our communities. Biden will also institute a program to buy back weapons of war currently on our streets. This will give individuals who now possess assault weapons or high-capacity magazines two options: sell the weapons to the government, or register them under the National Firearms Act.

Reduce stockpiling of weapons. In order to reduce the stockpiling of firearms, Biden supports legislation restricting the number of firearms an individual may purchase per month to one.

That is not the platform of someone who wants to maintain gun rights and address the actual root causes of violence. That's the platform of someone who's selling the big con- that Americans will stop killing each other if you take away guns. We'll continue to kill each other by drinking and driving, by texting and driving, by zoning out and crossing the double-yellow, by running reds because we're running late.

We don't give a flying fuck about each other.

Put on your common sense hats instead of flexing the headline without any real sustenance there. Look deeper than the words, folks. Y'all must have just a twenty-minute jerk session anytime some biased news source publicizes something that remotely helps your weird mental agenda. Some of us want to see the winner winning because they deserved it - not because they had to make it happen with other methods.

I don't give a shit who wins but is it really that much of a hoorah if you did it illegitimately? The GOP is about to have the Senate and the Supreme Court. Good luck passing fucking anything. If I were the Dem's, I'd take the L and just come back in four years and focus on other shit rather than just having some clown sit in a seat and be the face of your shit head ideology.

Why don't you put your common sense hat on? Do you really think either political party is going to commit financial suicide by committing large-scale fraud? These entities exist to make money from the American people- they're not going to be paid if the people lose faith.

The winner is going to win not because they deserved it, but because the American people spoke in numbers that made them the winner, both in the popular vote and the electoral college.

This is dumb. Anyone who thinks there's widespread election fraud is being dumb. My dad is being dumb. My coworkers are being dumb. You're being dumb.
Ignorance is strength.

And perhaps you might pretend, afterwards, that it was only a trick and that you just said it to make them stop and didn't really mean it. But that isn't true. At the time when it happens you do mean it. You think there's no other way of saving yourself and you're quite ready to save yourself that way. You want it to happen to the other person. You don't give a damn what they suffer. All you care about is yourself.

baaa

RalliartRsX
11-14-2020, 06:00 PM
And thats the crux and a mistake by Biden

You ain't removing guns from all the folks who has em...... and that's the nuanced piece

S14rebuild
11-14-2020, 06:23 PM
I'll help you with one that isn't hidden behind a paywall though...
https://www.ft.com/content/69f3206f-37a7-4561-bebf-5929e7df850d

Now when you use the graphic to see he gained (but not by much, of the still considerably less-than-half) with African Americans and Latinx, (13% and 18% of the population, respectively) only to see that he lost ground in less negligible populations (most except for the $100k+), there is no question as to how despite seeing a considerable rise in the NUMBER of votes, he still got bumrushed in the popular vote. More people turned out for him, but even more still turned out AGAINST him.
I will concede that your comment is not inaccurate on its face, but your argument is WILDLY disingenuous when looking anywhere beyond the surface.

Thank u, im not the best "internet" user..hell this is the only forum, social media i mess with lol.

S14rebuild
11-14-2020, 06:28 PM
Example; Biden gonna take your gun...completely ignoring the fact a dem has not come after thier guns in decades.....but here we are because the only platform.the gop.has is the boogeyman....

Kool...... but when someone tells you, yes were taken your guns...what are u to think?

So let me tell u hey, ralliart....im gonna fuck your wife! Dont worry when ur on ur business trip, im comen over and dickn her down.

But dont worry its not gonna happen cause no one eles has fucked her before. Lmao.

Just cause its never happend doesnt mean it wont.

Phlip
11-14-2020, 06:31 PM
What if Santa Claus was real?
Your emotional investment in "what ifs" when facing a question of what is directly in front of you serves you no good, yet you continue back to that tactic.

S14rebuild
11-14-2020, 07:26 PM
What if Santa Claus was real?
Your emotional investment in "what ifs" when facing a question of what is directly in front of you serves you no good, yet you continue back to that tactic.

Thanks for ruining my Christmas asshole


World is full of what ifs, i still question them n wonder.

But with biden we KNOW.
https://youtu.be/NNmtU-oTxJE

When someone tells u flatout what they are gonna do, how do u trun a blind eye?

!Zar!
11-14-2020, 07:28 PM
Everyone cries at the thought of stopping the sale of pistol grip ARs and high mags. Limiting the addition isn't the same as ripping your precious piece of metal away from you.

S14rebuild
11-14-2020, 07:36 PM
Yea cause theres no one sayn "gun buy back program"..lol

Phlip
11-14-2020, 07:38 PM
Perhaps you have me confused with someone who liked Biden to begin with. Fuck Biden. Trump had several months to help me hate Biden enough to leave the presidential vote blank because I was never voting Trump, ever. Not even years before he became a politician. Fuck Trump more. He spent March through November earning me actually filling in that blank for "not Trump," it was always his bed to shit in and shit in it he did.

But

No politician who ever actively says they're coming for peoples' guns and then survives a primary, then a general, ever actually succeeded in doing to. Biden can spit that hot shit to make people believe whatever they want, but there will never be an active attempt to take your or my guns. And yes, as a law abiding black man in America, every adult male in my family and close friends believe in having an armed household.

And two weeks ahead of your 34th birthday, you really should be better versed in how the internet and the world at large works.

S14rebuild
11-14-2020, 08:25 PM
Perhaps you have me confused with someone who liked Biden to begin with. Fuck Biden. Trump had several months to help me hate Biden enough to leave the presidential vote blank because I was never voting Trump, ever. Not even years before he became a politician. Fuck Trump more. He spent March through November earning me actually filling in that blank for "not Trump," it was always his bed to shit in and shit in it he did.

But

No politician who ever actively says they're coming for peoples' guns and then survives a primary, then a general, ever actually succeeded in doing to. Biden can spit that hot shit to make people believe whatever they want, but there will never be an active attempt to take your or my guns. And yes, as a law abiding black man in America, every adult male in my family and close friends believe in having an armed household.

And two weeks ahead of your 34th birthday, you really should be better versed in how the internet and the world at large works.

1..i take people for their word call me ole fashiond

2...im glad u partake and Exercise ur 2nd amendment right, i beleve all law abiding citizens should

3.... be it 18, 34, 78..... i dont partake in learning how social media works, nor how fucking hard it is to post an image on this sight. Maybe its cause im lazy, or i just dont really give a fuck enough to shove ideas at random people on an online car forum ill never meet nor know. I will say it is fun and entertaining though

4... law abiding black male..hmmm... i know u dont wanna admit it king Philip, but you and I, have alot more in common then you think.:tweak:

RalliartRsX
11-14-2020, 10:46 PM
.......And the hits just keep....on...coming

https://www.dw.com/en/us-pennsylvania-michigan-courts-reject-donald-trump-election-fraud-cases/a-55597851

US: Pennsylvania, Michigan courts reject Donald Trump election fraud cases

Courts in the US states Pennsylvania and Michigan on Friday denied more attempts by Republicans and supporters of US Donald Trump to change the result of this month's elections.

A Pennsylvania federal appeals court rejected an effort to block thousands of mail-in votes, while a court in Michigan declined a request to stop the certification of election votes in Detroit.

P.S With the provisional ballot count, Biden's lead INCREASES!

If Maracopy county was any indication, trump and his team are just a bunch of quacks holding on to a straw......They can't even submit basic documentation for court cases.

Actually I think of all the cases, trump has 1 or 2 lawyers left for the remaining cases so yeah....

RalliartRsX
11-14-2020, 10:54 PM
And I hope, people take note of the shitty trump looters and rioters in DC today...

fine people

zombiewolf513
11-14-2020, 11:26 PM
looters LOL

BLM & ANTIFA REKT!!!! Cry harder pussy. Very fine people, indeed.

Want to keep attacking our elderly, women, and children with knives and explosives for walking down the street?
Get used to the idea of seeing more of this:

https://i.ibb.co/jrnbrt0/1605418069224.jpg

kingkilburn
11-15-2020, 09:40 AM
looters LOL

BLM & ANTIFA REKT!!!! Cry harder pussy. Very fine people, indeed.

Want to keep attacking our elderly, women, and children with knives and explosives for walking down the street?
Get used to the idea of seeing more of this:

https://i.ibb.co/jrnbrt0/1605418069224.jpg



5hfYJsQAhl0

SupaDoopa
11-16-2020, 08:29 AM
https://www.msnbc.com/american-voices/watch/biden-transition-team-prepares-to-fight-covid-with-no-help-from-trump-95972933505

is a headline next to:

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/covid-19-vaccine-candidate-94-5-percent-effective-moderna-says-95987781747

This just goes to show you that:
a. COVID was an election ploy
b. It was a status booster.

How is he going to 'tackle' COVID-19 if two companies now have a drug that is 94.5% success rate?

kingkilburn
11-16-2020, 08:59 AM
Please refer to my previous comment.

SupaDoopa
11-16-2020, 09:03 AM
When you're done being a child, I'd like to hear an actual educated response instead of overplayed videos and infant tantrums. Stop deflecting. If you're going to toss all this shade, prove me wrong.

kingkilburn
11-16-2020, 09:13 AM
I'm not the one making ridiculous claims. Provide evidence to your hypothesis and I'll happily disprove it all.

SupaDoopa
11-16-2020, 09:34 AM
Waaaaah
/obviously has read every prior post but chooses to ignore them

'Please refer to my previous posts.' You know, the ones where you deflected and whined like a teen in heat.

kingkilburn
11-16-2020, 09:49 AM
As expected, you have no evidence or even a clear thesis.

KA24DESOneThree
11-16-2020, 09:50 AM
How is he going to 'tackle' COVID-19 if two companies now have a drug that is 94.5% success rate?

We don't have universal healthcare and we don't know who is going to pay for these drugs. We don't know how expensive they are, or the speed at which they can be manufactured and distributed.

Having a viable vaccine removes a variable from the problem, but doesn't solve the problem.

Phlip
11-16-2020, 10:40 AM
4... law abiding black male..hmmm... i know u dont wanna admit it king Philip, but you and I, have alot more in common then you think.:tweak:

https://i2.wp.com/metro.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/why-you-lying.jpg?quality=90&strip=all&zoom=1&resize=473%2C429&ssl=1



Moderna says that it will still be several months before the vaccine can/will be distributed. That is the most non-answer answer I could imagine hearing. The speed with which this has come to be leaves questions about long term side effects and actual tests of the efficacy of the vaccine anyway.

RalliartRsX
11-16-2020, 11:44 AM
.....Trump campaign just dismissed 4 more cases they had today in GA, WI, and PA.

I think the count is now up to 20+ cases dismissed or thrown out.

And trump I think has maybe 2 or 3 lawyers left in the various states

Pretty much his entire legal team walked away.......which to me means
1) There is literally not a case to be built as they are not even getting past the preliminaries.....

zombiewolf513
11-16-2020, 12:51 PM
You didn't post proof of literally any of that

RalliartRsX
11-16-2020, 01:00 PM
You can only be pedantic if you........nah forget it

That took all of 3 secs

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/11/13/trump-legal-team-cases-dropped-436492

A Michigan lawyer for Donald Trump’s campaign filed a case in the wrong court. Lawsuits in Arizona and Nevada were dropped. A Georgia challenge was quickly rejected for lack of evidence. His Pennsylvania legal team just threw in the towel.

The president’s legal machine — the one papering swing states with lawsuits and affidavits in support of Trump’s unsubstantiated claims of widespread fraud — is slowly grinding to a halt after suffering a slew of legal defeats and setbacks.


In the effort to stop Joe Biden’s victory from being certified, so many lawsuits have been filed in so many state and federal courts that no one has an exact number. But one thing is certain: the Trump campaign has an almost perfect record, having won only one case and lost at least a dozen.

Along the way, Trump lawyers have abruptly dropped core claims, been admonished in court for lack of candor and even been forced to admit they had no evidence of fraud, while their client inaccurately rails to the contrary on Twitter

If you like, I can pull up details of each case?? Or you know, search any source??
Your choice...

RalliartRsX
11-16-2020, 01:02 PM
P.S I even posted some of he details from the Maracopy county case.

RalliartRsX
11-16-2020, 01:06 PM
Trump’s lawyer, Kory Langhofer, also admitted in court that some of the questionable affidavits in support of the suit were collected as part of an online evidence-gathering process that invited “spam.” He also used his business partner as a witness, called other witnesses who were unable to say they were disenfranchised and undercut Trump’s public messaging about fraud.

That one is from MI.

I read some of the affiavids, and a majority of them were people who had zero clue on election rules. Nothing really about fraud. I mean; the lawyer used his business partner as a witness??

So that follows with what the judge says.

deolio
11-16-2020, 02:26 PM
https://www.msnbc.com/american-voices/watch/biden-transition-team-prepares-to-fight-covid-with-no-help-from-trump-95972933505

is a headline next to:

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/covid-19-vaccine-candidate-94-5-percent-effective-moderna-says-95987781747

This just goes to show you that:
a. COVID was an election ploy
b. It was a status booster.

How is he going to 'tackle' COVID-19 if two companies now have a drug that is 94.5% success rate?

When Covid first hit our shores they were saying 18+ months for a vaccine to be readily available to the public. Looks like they're a bit ahead of schedule.

I wouldn't say it's a ploy or a hoax but if you aren't willing and able to take advantage and spin any situation that falls in your lap for your advantage, you're probably not a very good politician. Obviously they're going to use something like this to their advantage, but it's not like the doofus in the Whitehouse made it difficult for them.

What these two segments actually show you is that:
a. The medical world has actually taken things seriously and has been busting ass to find a vaccine.
b. The Trump administration is incompetent and hasn't enacted the emergency protocol, which could have decreased spread (via PPE/testing), sped vaccine development (via testing/DPA), and made "experimental" vaccines more readily available (DPA).

zombiewolf513
11-16-2020, 03:14 PM
wtf is maracopy, you idiot? Do you really expect me to listen to someone that doesn't even know what my county is called? Nothing you posted is proof.

RalliartRsX
11-16-2020, 04:07 PM
wtf is maracopy, you idiot? Do you really expect me to listen to someone that doesn't even know what my county is called? Nothing you posted is proof.

:duh:

Yep, a spelling error is an issue.........that doesn't negate the fact trump is 1/20.......

S14: And what you are failing to realize is my original statement

That there is such scrutiny for the process, that every single ballot is hand checked. Every single ballot has bar codes. Every single ballot is matched with the persons profile and checked against them being legally eliglble to vote. What my post shows is the process works to weed out these irregularities. He was arrested and charged. How do you think they voting council figured it out?? CHECKS AND BALANCES! Which is what we have been saying since day one. The process WORKS!!

And just like your case, she was arrested and charged. Again the process to weed this out WORKS!

And again, this goes back to the right willfully ignoring the process and exactly HOW the votes are checked

And from Maricopa so yeah....

Even the trump lawyers are like "nah dog, we got nothing....."


From Maricopa County

Judge Kiley presses the Trump campaign:

Their solicitation of witnesses produced sworn affidavits that his own investigation determined were "clearly false," "spam as you put it."

The ones they could not prove were false, they submitted to the court.

Trump camp: "Correct."

Judge Kiley: "This is concerning."

"How is that a reliable process of gathering evidence?"

Langhofer insists: "We've excluded everything that has the indicia of unreliability."

Judge Kiley responds: That's not an indicia of trustworthiness of the remaining affidavits. That just shows you can't disprove what's asserted.


BUt hey, I will post it here for you again


And not sure how much other proof do you need. The cases are public record.......

zombiewolf513
11-16-2020, 04:23 PM
Your very bad, and very multiple spelling mistakes show you have no idea what you're talking about aside from copy pastas. You still haven't posted any proof of anything. Links to MSM articles and tweets aren't proof, remember?

S14rebuild
11-16-2020, 05:00 PM
Came here, to talk about this great country and all i got was negative rep...lmao best thread ever!

KA24DESOneThree
11-16-2020, 06:10 PM
Next Zilvia fundraiser: "I Supported an Authoritarian and All I Got Were These Lousy Red Squares!"

zombiewolf513
11-16-2020, 06:22 PM
>Calls trump an authoritarian
>Supports social ostracization over differing political opinion, ignores the biden wish list
Someone could make a fortune writing a book detailing these genius left wing contradictions. A right winger of course, the left can't read.
https://i.ibb.co/NTqgpNN/1605421463813.jpg

S14rebuild
11-16-2020, 07:04 PM
Next Zilvia fundraiser: "I Supported an Authoritarian and All I Got Were These Lousy Red Squares!"

Lmao....w.e. u say

LEG1T
11-16-2020, 08:07 PM
Lmaoo this thread is delivering....

So good to see cited sources, calling out the mis-informed right.

Sad to see them willing to go down with the sinking ship but not surprised as we always knew a lot of his supporters would lead us in the gas chamber if only they had the chance and I’m glad we’re not letting that happen.

deolio
11-16-2020, 08:29 PM
>Calls trump an authoritarian
>Supports social ostracization over differing political opinion, ignores the biden wish list
Someone could make a fortune writing a book detailing these genius left wing contradictions. A right winger of course, the left can't read.
yet another meme

>Says left can't read
>Comments on contradiction
>Posts right meme with no text
https://i.imgflip.com/22pw17.jpg

zombiewolf513
11-16-2020, 08:50 PM
Very telling that the left will show out harder to give an old white man more votes than Obama.


So good to see cited sources, calling out the mis-informed right.

Your feelings aren't sources.

cant understand anything

You should check some of these out:

NEW! Peel&Stick COVID Face Masks from 3M! 100% effective at filtering the air containing COVID!

Directions: Wrap roll around your own head, applying directly over mouth and nose.

Pro-tip: jam a foreign object down your throat before applying mask for maximum protection!

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/89/Duct-tape.jpg

Green Arrow
11-17-2020, 06:27 AM
If it came down to a civil war, who would win? The dumbasses who voted for Biden (gun control, socialism, SJW, Soybois) or Trump supporters (74mill of law abiding gun owners who have been hunting and working hard their whole lives?

Also, would ZAR come to join from the softest country in the world to yell incorrect MSM quotes?


Be real, it's the children with the Koolaid sippy cups sitting on Joe Biden's (the husband of Joe Biden) lap who would lose.

SupaDoopa
11-17-2020, 09:05 AM
Moderna hinted at with more money, they will be ready to mass distribute in January. The other vaccine from the other brand says that can beat that timeline. Multiple sources. I feel no need to post URLs.

People voted for Biden because there was no other answer and I can understand that. But don't vote for someone because you hate the other guy. You are just settling and what you've effectively done is strip yourself of your 'freedoms' in the broad sense now. In about 3.5 years at the end of his (first?) term, the shit they'll try to push through will make your fucking penis retract into your abdomen.

kingkilburn
11-17-2020, 09:48 AM
Why on Earth should it come to a civil war? Millions more people voted for Biden, and most of them don't even particularly like the guy.

You seriously need to get a grip on reality.

!Zar!
11-17-2020, 10:18 AM
https://www.msnbc.com/american-voices/watch/biden-transition-team-prepares-to-fight-covid-with-no-help-from-trump-95972933505

is a headline next to:

https://www.msnbc.com/morning-joe/watch/covid-19-vaccine-candidate-94-5-percent-effective-moderna-says-95987781747

This just goes to show you that:
a. COVID was an election ploy
b. It was a status booster.

How is he going to 'tackle' COVID-19 if two companies now have a drug that is 94.5% success rate?

You would love for that to be the case. The biggest thing about covid which irks me are those who insist on making it political. This virus is being, "managed" and has been as deadly as the 1918 H1N1 virus, which took place at a time where management and even general science knowledge was much worse.

But to go on about your oversimplification implying there is nothing left to "tackle". Here are some things to think about.

1. Who's paying for it?
2. What logistics are in place to manage distribution? (This is a nightmare to sort out).
3. Who's upholding punishment for malpractice?
4. Who's the first to receive the vaccine?
5. Covid still needs to be managed. Vaccine =/= cure

S14rebuild
11-17-2020, 10:51 AM
Civil war qould indeed be a hard situation. The country isnt so clear cut divided by ideas or logistically. Instead you would have small factions pop up all over.

They would literally have to take over states...and most sothern states have miltary bases lol

Phlip
11-17-2020, 11:09 AM
Is there like a dress code for the civil war?
Do I need to hit my t-shirt dude up for a new design to match my sneakers?
Will it be before or after Christmas, because I just spent a fucking grip on presents for my wife.
How do we establish captains and choose teams?

S14rebuild
11-17-2020, 12:07 PM
Is there like a dress code for the civil war?
Do I need to hit my t-shirt dude up for a new design to match my sneakers?
Will it be before or after Christmas, because I just spent a fucking grip on presents for my wife.
How do we establish captains and choose teams?


Dress code..... bro its black vs. White....where have u been?

Phlip
11-17-2020, 12:15 PM
Dress code..... bro its black vs. White....where have u been?

At work, like I am every day.
I am concerned about the fact that I know white people who will not want to join one side and you claim to know black people who won't join the other. No one on either side seems willing to admit that they might be wrong, this is clearly headed in a shitty direction that will only get worse before it gets any better.

KA24DESOneThree
11-17-2020, 12:21 PM
The dress code is: plate carriers over business casual for the right and plate carriers under oversized hoodies for the left.

Libertarians will voluntarily wear Ace Ventura's costume complete with tutu along with lightweight armor and stab-proof long sleeves. Shorts are mandatory, which is a -4 to warmth but a +2 to weight. I personally wear a 3D-printed sintered titanium cup to protect my dangly bits from attack.

Everyone thinks you can't carry more than four loaded PMAGs in the handwarmer pocket, which isn't quite right because you can carry six 5.56, five .300AAC, or four 7.62x51. You can also carry four G17 magazines in the hood. If you wear a beer helmet, you'll always have two Molotovs ready for action.

There was a bronze Guy Fawkes mask cast for combat usage a few years back, but it was a bit heavy and warm for southern use, we're going to have to limit it to the Northern Brigade.

Green party just wears sod. It's green and the dirt stops small-caliber projectiles.

If you don't identify as a party, you're supposed to wear all gray, which includes gray body paint and dying your hair gray. You're allowed to use weapons, but they can't be name-brand. You can only be targeted if you initiate force.

Green Arrow
11-17-2020, 12:26 PM
KA that is hilarious!

Phlip
11-17-2020, 12:30 PM
If you don't identify as a party, you're supposed to wear all gray, which includes gray body paint and dying your hair gray. You're allowed to use weapons, but they can't be name-brand. You can only be targeted if you initiate force.

This will be easy.
You could ask the people who have commented in this thread who were at my wedding, and the one who has been to and actually crashed at my house, most of my shirts are gray for some odd-ass reason. Heredity and stress are handling the gray hair part for me.
Aight, we good

S14rebuild
11-17-2020, 12:32 PM
Trevon martins hoodie was grey....

S14rebuild
11-17-2020, 12:40 PM
The dress code is: plate carriers over business casual for the right and plate carriers under oversized hoodies for the left.

Libertarians will voluntarily wear Ace Ventura's costume complete with tutu along with lightweight armor and stab-proof long sleeves. Shorts are mandatory, which is a -4 to warmth but a +2 to weight. I personally wear a 3D-printed sintered titanium cup to protect my dangly bits from attack.

Everyone thinks you can't carry more than four loaded PMAGs in the handwarmer pocket, which isn't quite right because you can carry six 5.56, five .300AAC, or four 7.62x51. You can also carry four G17 magazines in the hood. If you wear a beer helmet, you'll always have two Molotovs ready for action.

There was a bronze Guy Fawkes mask cast for combat usage a few years back, but it was a bit heavy and warm for southern use, we're going to have to limit it to the Northern Brigade.

Green party just wears sod. It's green and the dirt stops small-caliber projectiles.

If you don't identify as a party, you're supposed to wear all gray, which includes gray body paint and dying your hair gray. You're allowed to use weapons, but they can't be name-brand. You can only be targeted if you initiate force.


Shit if i cant wear camo-crocks or reef sandals, i aint fightn.

Lance mags>pmags

!Zar!
11-17-2020, 12:44 PM
Basically, it's going to look like this.
https://i.redd.it/5f25pct1afi51.png

S14rebuild
11-17-2020, 12:46 PM
I pick white!

!Zar!
11-17-2020, 12:57 PM
I pick white!

ur sus .

S14rebuild
11-17-2020, 01:12 PM
ur sus .

Says the yellow guy

KA24DESOneThree
11-17-2020, 04:14 PM
Shit if i cant wear camo-crocks or reef sandals, i aint fightn.

Lance mags>pmags

Meh, neither come in 10/30 from the factory. I have to carry 24 magazines when you guys with standard capacity mags get to carry only 8. Luckily, I hollowed out a carton of Cup O' Noodles and use it to surreptitiously carry all 24 magazines on my head like an Egyptian street vendor.

I carry my ARs in rice sacks on my shoulders- "I'm a lead farmer, motherfucker!"

Concealed carry becomes congealed carry in the rain, though. Maybe I should build an AK...

You cannot fight in Crocs. It is literally illegal. Of course, so is sedition but fuck you I do what I want.

S14rebuild
11-17-2020, 04:40 PM
Meh, neither come in 10/30 from the factory. I have to carry 24 magazines when you guys with standard capacity mags get to carry only 8. Luckily, I hollowed out a carton of Cup O' Noodles and use it to surreptitiously carry all 24 magazines on my head like an Egyptian street vendor.

I carry my ARs in rice sacks on my shoulders- "I'm a lead farmer, motherfucker!"

Concealed carry becomes congealed carry in the rain, though. Maybe I should build an AK...

You cannot fight in Crocs. It is literally illegal. Of course, so is sedition but fuck you I do what I want.



Stop larping, and become a true operator! Crocs and an infidel scarf


Fuk buildn an ak......say it with me "GAS PISTON OPERATED AR15"


See you on the battle field fam!!

deolio
11-17-2020, 04:48 PM
Nah, fuck a civil war. If you look at the voting maps, it's apparent that war would just be urban vs rural communities. Abolish state and county lines. Let the cities govern the city limits and the... idk... sheriffs(?) govern everything in between. The president dictates foreign policy and that's it. Problem solved. Welcome to The Badlands.

S14rebuild
11-17-2020, 06:01 PM
Nah, fuck a civil war. If you look at the voting maps, it's apparent that war would just be urban vs rural communities. Abolish state and county lines. Let the cities govern the city limits and the... idk... sheriffs(?) govern everything in between. The president dictates foreign policy and that's it. Problem solved. Welcome to The Badlands.


Rural def has the upper hand in this situation


Thats what i said, the country is divided like the civil war was (north vs south) would be to hard to have a war like that now.

!Zar!
11-17-2020, 07:03 PM
El oh fuckin el. What a baby https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-trump-fires-cybersecurity-official-20201118-5vszp4awhjgk3hxs6s26stcooi-story.html

S14rebuild
11-17-2020, 07:35 PM
El oh fuckin el. What a baby https://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/ny-trump-fires-cybersecurity-official-20201118-5vszp4awhjgk3hxs6s26stcooi-story.html



Does it matter? Arent they all jobless once biden comes in?

SimpleS14
11-18-2020, 07:45 AM
Does it matter? Arent they all jobless once biden comes in?

For this role, I think it does matter because having him still employed would help with the transition process and maintain continuity until Biden's appointee gets Senate approval. It's also possible Biden could have kept him in place too.

SupaDoopa
11-18-2020, 08:22 AM
You would love for that to be the case. The biggest thing about covid which irks me are those who insist on making it political. This virus is being, "managed" and has been as deadly as the 1918 H1N1 virus, which took place at a time where management and even general science knowledge was much worse.

But to go on about your oversimplification implying there is nothing left to "tackle". Here are some things to think about.

1. Who's paying for it?
2. What logistics are in place to manage distribution? (This is a nightmare to sort out).
3. Who's upholding punishment for malpractice?
4. Who's the first to receive the vaccine?
5. Covid still needs to be managed. Vaccine =/= cure

1. Stricter definitions of essential worker.
Who's upholding punishment?
2. Hazard pay for those who are essential workers.
Who's paying for it?
3. Pay those who aren't essential workers and aren't eligible to WFH.
Who's paying for it? Me? Someone who is risking their health as an essential worker to be taxed extra to keep the national deficit down for paying people to sit at home and play PS5?
4. Strict punishment for breaking curfew and social distancing rules.
Who's upholding punishment and how? Most likely a spike in 'police brutality' cases and rioting/looting is bound to happen.
5. Restaurants are to-go only.
Tough to do when these are not essential businesses.



You literally have asked the questions of your statements in another post.

KA24DESOneThree
11-18-2020, 11:32 AM
Stop larping, and become a true operator! Crocs and an infidel scarf


Fuk buildn an ak......say it with me "GAS PISTON OPERATED AR15"


See you on the battle field fam!!

If things went to shit, I'd build a suppressed 7.5"-barreled .300BLK piston gun with a folder.

Like a sexier 9A-91 with less das vidaniya and more yee haw.

You won't see me. I'm 240lbs of stealth and cat-like reflexes. I've mastered the Urban Ghillie- it's a suit made from a shopping cart filled with aluminum cans. I just sit and wait and the shopping cart doubles as rifle rest. The wheels allow me to expend less energy and there's a built-in chemical toilet for extended loitering periods.

!Zar!
11-18-2020, 12:44 PM
You literally have asked the questions of your statements in another post.

I posted ideas. Unfortunately I can't implement law and order through Zilvia.

S14rebuild
11-18-2020, 12:48 PM
If things went to shit, I'd build a suppressed 7.5"-barreled .300BLK piston gun with a folder.

Like a sexier 9A-91 with less das vidaniya and more yee haw.

You won't see me. I'm 240lbs of stealth and cat-like reflexes. I've mastered the Urban Ghillie- it's a suit made from a shopping cart filled with aluminum cans. I just sit and wait and the shopping cart doubles as rifle rest. The wheels allow me to expend less energy and there's a built-in chemical toilet for extended loitering periods.


Lmfao........

S14rebuild
11-18-2020, 12:49 PM
Sidenote.....maken sure i read this right

Durning these so called "recounts" in georgia they found 2 sd cards containing almost 6,000 votes with like 80% of them for trump....

deolio
11-18-2020, 02:01 PM
Thats what i said, the country is divided like the civil war was (north vs south) would be to hard to have a war like that now.

I think it seems a lot more divided than it is. The amount of people who actually care enough to pick up a weapon and risk their lives to either have slightly lower taxes or cheaper healthcare is extremely small. People with strong opinions are just fucking loud... and half the time are just pussies in disguise.

Everyone in America prays to the same god - Capitalism. We are unified in the goal of monetary wealth. Wishing for great amounts of money to flow into our pockets. Making sacrafices to ol' Cappy in the form of chunks of our own lives. Oh dollar bill in the sky won't you just let me be rich?! Just one more car. A bigger house. Maybe a private jet??? If I could just stunt on IG my life would be sooo perfect ol' Cappy, old pal, old friend, won't you let it be so!

SupaDoopa
11-18-2020, 06:22 PM
Thank God I have a gun room in the basement. Y'all can come knockin'.

deolio
11-18-2020, 07:00 PM
Thank God I have a gun room in the basement. Y'all can come knockin'.

Did you learn ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from the greatest biopic of all time, Tremors?!

KNoyStVjWFE

Your basement is the LAST place you want your gun room. Put that bitch in the attic. Higher ground and all... :wiggle:

S14rebuild
11-18-2020, 07:42 PM
Did you learn ABSOLUTELY NOTHING from the greatest biopic of all time, Tremors?!

KNoyStVjWFE

Your basement is the LAST place you want your gun room. Put that bitch in the attic. Higher ground and all... :wiggle:


Easily in my top 5 favorite movies of all times

Phlip
11-19-2020, 05:47 AM
Sidenote.....maken sure i read this right

Durning these so called "recounts" in georgia they found 2 sd cards containing almost 6,000 votes with like 80% of them for trump....
I wanted to call your information "flawed," but since you claim to not know enough about the internet to post your sources, I am calling you a liar.
As of when you posted this, the two memory card contained 5213 in person (not those fraudulent mail-in ones) votes that had not been previously counted. Of the 5213, 3220 were for the incumbent, which is a little under 62%.
[link (https://wdef.com/2020/11/17/georgia-recount-uncounted-ballots-found/)]
From the link, they were at the time investigating uncounted votes from a third county which involves a WHOPPING 224 votes.
And since I know you won't read the link because it does not contain a minor technicality that will continue to feed your narrative until the bloody end, I will quote why this is another nothingburger:

The office reports that the other 110 counties to have finished their recounts won?t change the outcome much at all. Here is that breakdown.

- 57 counties had no deviations from their original ballot count
- 21 counties were either plus or minus one off the original ballot count
- 32 counties are off by single digit numbers and are being investigated

And before you get to the tally error in Dekalb county where those evil brown people showed up in droves, that one was caught before any votes were counted, and got properly counted.
[link (https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/secretary-states-office-finds-another-memory-card-with-hundreds-votes/2Q4TF34UVJEEFGE4EEB3FTMFGI/)]

What that means, as explained today by NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936395421/as-georgias-hand-recount-concludes-vote-count-shows-biden-still-ahead): while the recount found previously uncounted votes and some were indeed for the incumbent, there were also some for the challenger. Given that both candidates ultimately added to their vote totals, the one who was behind in the initial count did not add substantially enough votes to change the outcome. If the president and his lapdog Lindsey Graham had succeeded in getting Georgia to simply shitcan tens of thousands of legal votes. Alas, what they thought would be a friendly audience was not willing to comply with their attempted disenfranchisement.
Officials in GA were confident that it would not materially change the outcome all along. We will have official results of the recount by noon today, they say.

SupaDoopa
11-19-2020, 06:08 AM
So, what about this?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michigan-gop-election-checkers-rescind-certify-vote-claim-dems-bullied-them

RalliartRsX
11-19-2020, 07:25 AM
I wanted to call your information "flawed," but since you claim to not know enough about the internet to post your sources, I am calling you a liar.
As of when you posted this, the two memory card contained 5213 in person (not those fraudulent mail-in ones) votes that had not been previously counted. Of the 5213, 3220 were for the incumbent, which is a little under 62%.
[link (https://wdef.com/2020/11/17/georgia-recount-uncounted-ballots-found/)]
From the link, they were at the time investigating uncounted votes from a third county which involves a WHOPPING 224 votes.
And since I know you won't read the link because it does not contain a minor technicality that will continue to feed your narrative until the bloody end, I will quote why this is another nothingburger:



And before you get to the tally error in Dekalb county where those evil brown people showed up in droves, that one was caught before any votes were counted, and got properly counted.
[link (https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/secretary-states-office-finds-another-memory-card-with-hundreds-votes/2Q4TF34UVJEEFGE4EEB3FTMFGI/)]

What that means, as explained today by NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936395421/as-georgias-hand-recount-concludes-vote-count-shows-biden-still-ahead): while the recount found previously uncounted votes and some were indeed for the incumbent, there were also some for the challenger. Given that both candidates ultimately added to their vote totals, the one who was behind in the initial count did not add substantially enough votes to change the outcome. If the president and his lapdog Lindsey Graham had succeeded in getting Georgia to simply shitcan tens of thousands of legal votes. Alas, what they thought would be a friendly audience was not willing to comply with their attempted disenfranchisement.
Officials in GA were confident that it would not materially change the outcome all along. We will have official results of the recount by noon today, they say.


Well said

In other words; the process works! Voting machines (in this instance) works!
Nothing fraudulent

I won't even get into the rudy shitshow in court yesterday
trump is now 1/24 for court cases. And the only one he "won" was to just reaffirm a rule PA already instated for the election.....which was to not count provisional ballots until properly vetted.....which didn't matter either way

So more like 0.5/24 in cases won.....
But again, this sort of nuanced will be lost on most on the right

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 07:26 AM
I wanted to call your information "flawed," but since you claim to not know enough about the internet to post your sources, I am calling you a liar.
As of when you posted this, the two memory card contained 5213 in person (not those fraudulent mail-in ones) votes that had not been previously counted. Of the 5213, 3220 were for the incumbent, which is a little under 62%.
[link (https://wdef.com/2020/11/17/georgia-recount-uncounted-ballots-found/)]
From the link, they were at the time investigating uncounted votes from a third county which involves a WHOPPING 224 votes.
And since I know you won't read the link because it does not contain a minor technicality that will continue to feed your narrative until the bloody end, I will quote why this is another nothingburger:



And before you get to the tally error in Dekalb county where those evil brown people showed up in droves, that one was caught before any votes were counted, and got properly counted.
[link (https://www.wsbtv.com/news/local/secretary-states-office-finds-another-memory-card-with-hundreds-votes/2Q4TF34UVJEEFGE4EEB3FTMFGI/)]

What that means, as explained today by NPR (https://www.npr.org/2020/11/18/936395421/as-georgias-hand-recount-concludes-vote-count-shows-biden-still-ahead): while the recount found previously uncounted votes and some were indeed for the incumbent, there were also some for the challenger. Given that both candidates ultimately added to their vote totals, the one who was behind in the initial count did not add substantially enough votes to change the outcome. If the president and his lapdog Lindsey Graham had succeeded in getting Georgia to simply shitcan tens of thousands of legal votes. Alas, what they thought would be a friendly audience was not willing to comply with their attempted disenfranchisement.
Officials in GA were confident that it would not materially change the outcome all along. We will have official results of the recount by noon today, they say.

https://apnews.com/article/2nd-georgia-county-find-uncounted-votes-018eac6ac24733d63d356ee76f485530

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-recount-uncovers-2600-new-votes-in-presidential-race/I75NSPYYGNF43HQZBPYKJWJ5MA/


Never said id be enough for trump to win.....but isnt it every vote counts?

And if were just magically finding thounds of uncounted votes...why are we not investigating and looking harder/more?

ALL VOTES COUNT .....lmao come on philip shame on you.

I dont care if they found 1million votes and all of them are for biden. If the votes were casted on time and legal done by voting standards they they should count and an investigation should be held to find out why they werent initially and how they went missing.

But to sit back and say well...... they still wouldnt "help" so and so to wun...doesnt really matter. That sir is a co-op and bullshit.

Tisk tisk

Phlip
11-19-2020, 07:47 AM
So, what about this?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/michigan-gop-election-checkers-rescind-certify-vote-claim-dems-bullied-them

They can present their cases in any applicable court. I'll wait.

https://apnews.com/article/2nd-georgia-county-find-uncounted-votes-018eac6ac24733d63d356ee76f485530

https://www.ajc.com/politics/georgia-recount-uncovers-2600-new-votes-in-presidential-race/I75NSPYYGNF43HQZBPYKJWJ5MA/


Never said id be enough for trump to win.....but isnt it every vote counts?

And if were just magically finding thounds of uncounted votes...why are we not investigating and looking harder/more?

ALL VOTES COUNT .....lmao come on philip shame on you.

I dont care if they found 1million votes and all of them are for biden. If the votes were casted on time and legal done by voting standards they they should count and an investigation should be held to find out why they werent initially and how they went missing.

But to sit back and say well...... they still wouldnt "help" so and so to wun...doesnt really matter. That sir is a co-op and bullshit.

Tisk tisk

Those links you posted contained the same numbers that I cited in my previous response. That is how I know you're just looking for headlines that might somewhat support the reality you want to create, but aren't actually READING.

I think you meant "cop out" and you would still be wrong. They found uncounted votes in red-friendly counties and it still did nothing to bend the count. That is PRECISELY what a recanvass and recount are designed to find. All votes do, and indeed will count, attempts to stop that from happening happened, but not from the challenger's camp. The fact that such a comparatively small number of irregularities were so easily located and that most if not all were a result of honest human mistakes and further still is precisely why the president is reactively firing people for not parroting his "it was rigged!" line.

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 07:59 AM
They can present their cases in any applicable court. I'll wait.



I think you meant "cop out" and you would still be wrong. They found uncounted votes in red-friendly counties and it still did nothing to bend the count. That is PRECISELY what a recanvass and recount are designed to find. All votes do, and indeed will count, attempts to stop that from happening happened, but not from the challenger's camp. The fact that such a comparatively small number of irregularities were so easily located and that most if not all were a result of honest human mistakes and further still is precisely why the president is reactively firing people for not parroting his "it was rigged!" line.


Lol..... EVERY VOTE COUNTS!

the fact that were finding non-counted votes after the election should be a concer for every american. You knlw its shows integrity of out electoral process.

Phlip
11-19-2020, 08:18 AM
Lol..... EVERY VOTE COUNTS!

the fact that were finding non-counted votes after the election should be a concer for every american. You knlw its shows integrity of out electoral process.

Re-read my edited response and feel free to respond in English next time.
You're not doing very well here

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 08:52 AM
Re-read my edited response and feel free to respond in English next time.
You're not doing very well here

Lol....the votes were not counted in the orignal voting...

Excuse my spelling and typos...im using a brick phone from 2010, not all of us are using a 3 screen desktop to submit tread replies reguarding poltics on an automotive forum. Sorry my lord.


Again....count ALL the votes. Doesnt matter the winner or loser.

Any vote found after the election/count...shows a lack of voter security and causes harm to the election process.

You should nt have to canvass and send search partys to seek out and find votes.

Its really ok, your dislike or even hatred for trump shows in every post you leave in this thread. Throws all ur knowledge or credibility out the window. Im okay with that. Thats your feelings.. so be it. Ur excuses for rational things are halirous

Phlip
11-19-2020, 09:02 AM
Lol....the votes were not counted in the orignal voting...

Excuse my spelling and typos...im using a brick phone from 2010, not all of us are using a 3 screen desktop to submit tread replies reguarding poltics on an automotive forum. Sorry my lord.


Again....count ALL the votes. Doesnt matter the winner or loser.

Any vote found after the election/count...shows a lack of voter security and causes harm to the election process.

You should nt have to canvass and send search partys to seek out and find votes.

Its really ok, your dislike or even hatred for trump shows in every post you leave in this thread. Throws all ur knowledge or credibility out the window. Im okay with that. Thats your feelings.. so be it. Ur excuses for rational things are halirous

You seem to be operating under some weird assumption that ballot counting has always, except for now that it doesn't benefit the president, been some kind of flawless process.
No, it has always dealt with human beings and human error. For that reason, every state has triggers built into their election law that cause recounts when the results are within that margin for error like the one Georgia is currently experiencing wherein they -- gasp -- find and rectify those issues. When the task of finding and rectifying those issues find that the irregularities were marginal at best and do nothing to swing the actual outcome, we have the confirmation that the election processes are largely just fine.
One person seems to have a hard time getting that through their head. Thank God for the 20th amendment, his feelings won't matter on January 20.

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 09:10 AM
You seem to be operating under some weird assumption that ballot counting has always, except for now that it doesn't benefit the president, been some kind of flawless process.
No, it has always dealt with human beings and human error. For that reason, every state has triggers built into their election law that cause recounts when the results are within that margin for error like the one Georgia is currently experiencing wherein they -- gasp -- find and rectify those issues. When the task of finding and rectifying those issues find that the irregularities were marginal at best and do nothing to swing the actual outcome, we have the confirmation that the election processes are largely just fine.
One person seems to have a hard time getting that through their head. Thank God for the 20th amendment, his feelings won't matter on January 20.

Not 1 bit. Im for a FAIR election. If all votes were for biden found after id make the same argument.


Anytime, be it this election or past, transparency, integrity are a must and irregularities or be it fraud must be investtigated be it ant any level.

If your willing to turn a blind eye to ANY of it then you dont have american core values. Every legal vote counts doesnt matter who its from.

Phlip
11-19-2020, 09:18 AM
If your willing to turn a blind eye to ANY of it then you dont have american core values. Every legal vote counts doesnt matter who its from.
Noticing aloud the time and money being wasted on "fraud and illegal ballots!" claims with no apparent credible proof is not turning a blind eye.
That says nothing about my "core American values." By the way, core American values includes the possibility of stealing land via genocide and forced labor, but that is a conversation for another time. If "every legal vote counts," then why are there such efforts from the administration to throw out as many legal votes as it might take to steal the election?

SupaDoopa
11-19-2020, 09:38 AM
While yes, I agree that America was taken forcefully, all land was taken forcefully. This is how countries either 'freed' themselves or flexed power for their sponsoring country. We can talk about history dating further back than the discovery and populating of America to crusades, Biblican genocides of Canaanites, Gallic Wars, etc. Just because it happened more recently doesn't make it out of the norm. Shit, Hitler tried to do the same thing in our time. To say America is the sole country responsible from genocide is just sheer ignorance to history and the formation [and still currently reformation] of organized and third-world countries. We still have genocide today with land and power at the top of the reasons list.

I had another paragraph typed but decided to delete it as most people here would flip shit.

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 09:40 AM
Noticing aloud the time and money being wasted on "fraud and illegal ballots!" claims with no apparent credible proof is not turning a blind eye.
That says nothing about my "core American values." By the way, core American values includes the possibility of stealing land via genocide and forced labor, but that is a conversation for another time. If "every legal vote counts," then why are there such efforts from the administration to throw out as many legal votes as it might take to steal the election?

Funny how u assume me as "TRUMP IS ALL AND EVERYTHING AND NOTHING ELES"

I dont speak for trump and his legal teams nor what they are trying to prove or show.

If a vote is legally cast then it must be counted..let alone who its for...pretty sure ive said this before...

Genecoide, forced labor is about voting.... but by what ur saying is 1 bad thing dictates all others as bad. Got it. Steal land is bad, stealing election good? Ahhhh


I voted for trump because durning this election i aligned myself with the same core values as the republican party held. That is all.

Bring me another canadate that is better for me and my beleifs, they have my vote. Im not red or blue all the way....

kingkilburn
11-19-2020, 09:45 AM
Lord Phlip has a certain ring to it but I don't know if he needs the ego boost. lol

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 09:57 AM
Lord Phlip has a certain ring to it but I don't know if he needs the ego boost. lol

Lord Philip is a tyrant. Rules this forum with an iron keyboard. Adress him properly or feel the wrath...

Phlip
11-19-2020, 10:27 AM
Lord Philip is a tyrant. Rules this forum with an iron keyboard. Adress him properly or feel the wrath...

You know what? Perhaps I have handled you unfairly.
I refused to let you muddy up threads outside of Loud Noises with political bullshit.
I refuse to let you spout misinformation and lies without steering you toward what you've gotten wrong.
I constantly remind you that you frequently post links that you have not bothered reading and understanding yourself.
I ridicule your atrocious grammar and spelling.
I once even called you a liar when you were actively lying.

I will make it up to you, you can be mod for one day, we'll do it on the 31st of this month.

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 10:38 AM
You know what? Perhaps I have handled you unfairly.
I refused to let you muddy up threads outside of Loud Noises with political bullshit.
I refuse to let you spout misinformation and lies without steering you toward what you've gotten wrong.
I constantly remind you that you frequently post links that you have not bothered reading and understanding yourself.
I ridicule your atrocious grammar and spelling.
I once even called you a liar when you were actively lying.

I will make it up to you, you can be mod for one day, we'll do it on the 31st of this month.


Woot woot!! Yes!!!




......hey wait a second!!! 31st of November??







*not gonna bother a real rebuttal to ur open ended nonvalued points in ur post*

SupaDoopa
11-19-2020, 10:46 AM
Gonna be honest, I don't generally flex who I voted for but I promise you it wasn't Biden. Dude hasn't even taken office yet and his lackeys already talking about stripping constitutional rights by slapping a label on specific things. What is an 'assault weapon?' Who will make that determination? Boy, I hope the Supreme Court shoots that shit down immediately.

Phlip
11-19-2020, 10:57 AM
*not gonna bother a real rebuttal to ur open ended nonvalued points in ur post*

If you had posts to quote of me doing exactly as stated, you would have all the time in the world. Of the five points I made, all but one of them took place this morning alone.

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 11:10 AM
If you had posts to quote of me doing exactly as stated, you would have all the time in the world. Of the five points I made, all but one of them took place this morning alone.


See that good sir, you are wrong. I simply dont give a fuck. Really dont. No fucks given to convince others, agrre with kthers or argue with others. I rejoined this site for rejoinging a strong nissan community, for shared information.

I saw this thread and figured why not dilly dally in it and look how it has grown.

"Your" 5 points mean nothing. Most of them are ur hurt feelings and your biased point of views. Thats okay. Enjoy them.


This thread has just turned to who can we attack today...all sides are in this lol. Im just glad king Philip has joined in on the fun.

kingkilburn
11-19-2020, 11:23 AM
I don't care. That's why I post about a few dozens Republican votes not counted by Republican.county governments that don't tip the scales with a six million vote deficit.
Not a care in the world.

Phlip
11-19-2020, 11:27 AM
Meanwhile, in Detroit, the campaign is dropping its lawsuit.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/19/trump-campaign-drops-lawsuit-arguing-wayne-county-didnt-certify-election-results/3776459001/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-campaign-drops-election-lawsuit-michigan-certification/

They're spinning their reasoning like a damn dredel, but if they had any more of a case then one would think they'd stick with it.

SupaDoopa
11-19-2020, 11:28 AM
I don't care. That's why I post about a few dozens Republican votes not counted by Republican.county governments that don't tip the scales with a six million vote deficit.
Not a care in the world.

Boy, I worry about you especially if all these votes culminate to anything. Imagine if/when Biden is elected and he's impeached and just sits there getting everything shot down in the Senate and Supreme Court. I worry what you'd do.

kingkilburn
11-19-2020, 11:39 AM
You guys are actually entertaining civil war but go off on this entire fictional thing you just made up to pretend I'm the problem.

KA24DESOneThree
11-19-2020, 11:40 AM
Gonna be honest, I don't generally flex who I voted for but I promise you it wasn't Biden. Dude hasn't even taken office yet and his lackeys already talking about stripping constitutional rights by slapping a label on specific things. What is an 'assault weapon?' Who will make that determination? Boy, I hope the Supreme Court shoots that shit down immediately.

"Assault weapon" will probably be used as defined by Webster's or common understanding (another reason why pedantry is important- it helps weed out bad faith arguments based on biased news sources). The majority of people don't own guns.

I will repeat myself: gun control is easy. Gun control doesn't cost Democrats anything and keeps contributions rolling in. Fixing the problems with America is hard- harder than anything the US has ever done, and will cost huge amounts of money. That money will make the government unpopular until the cultural shift happens and the government returns to popularity because everyone realizes that it works.

The only way for the US to succeed is for our government to tighten its belt and start delivering on promises of general welfare that it has not delivered for decades now.

SupaDoopa
11-19-2020, 11:44 AM
You guys are actually entertaining civil war but go off on this entire fictional thing you just made up to pretend I'm the problem.

Who is 'you guys?' Racist ass.

"Assault weapon" will probably be used as defined by Webster's or common understanding (another reason why pedantry is important- it helps weed out bad faith arguments based on biased news sources). The majority of people don't own guns.

I will repeat myself: gun control is easy. Gun control doesn't cost Democrats anything and keeps contributions rolling in. Fixing the problems with America is hard- harder than anything the US has ever done, and will cost huge amounts of money. That money will make the government unpopular until the cultural shift happens and the government returns to popularity because everyone realizes that it works.

The only way for the US to succeed is for our government to tighten its belt and start delivering on promises of general welfare that it has not delivered for decades now.

So to make good on their promises to group X, you're going to piss off group Y by encroaching on their constitutional rights? You think group Y is just going to walk into a police station and leave their shit and wait for a check? I think you're much more na?ve and unintelligent as you think you are.

kingkilburn
11-19-2020, 11:54 AM
Who is 'you guys?'

Y O U guys. You red tictac mother fuckers desperately clinging to some hope that godking Trump can cheat his supreme cheat and stay president for the rest of his shitty life.

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 11:55 AM
I don't care. That's why I post about a few dozens Republican votes not counted by Republican.county governments that don't tip the scales with a six million vote deficit.
Not a care in the world.

It was posted info related to this thread.

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 11:57 AM
Y O U guys. You red tictac mother fuckers desperately clinging to some hope that godking Trump can cheat his supreme cheat and stay president for the rest of his shitty life.

Lol yall made us "red tictacs"

Sourpus

kingkilburn
11-19-2020, 12:00 PM
So to make good on their promises to group X, you're going to piss off group Y...

Group Y is always pissed off and always uninformed. Those in power must govern and govern well. The faster they adopt good policy the longer the sting of pulling the band-aid off has to go away before the next election.

But Democrats suck at that, don't they.

kingkilburn
11-19-2020, 12:01 PM
Lol yall made us "red tictacs"

Sourpus

Cry some more.

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 12:03 PM
Cry some more.

Tissues pleaseeee

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 12:07 PM
Meanwhile, in Detroit, the campaign is dropping its lawsuit.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/11/19/trump-campaign-drops-lawsuit-arguing-wayne-county-didnt-certify-election-results/3776459001/

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-campaign-drops-election-lawsuit-michigan-certification/

They're spinning their reasoning like a damn dredel, but if they had any more of a case then one would think they'd stick with it.

Orrrrrr maybe they are just telln the truth idk?

kingkilburn
11-19-2020, 12:16 PM
Or they've got nothing and multiple judges have told them to kick rocks or risk contempt and disbarment.

As I said weeks ago, Justice Alito should have minded his own business and waited for a case to reach the SCOTUS properly.

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 12:21 PM
Or they've got nothing and multiple judges have told them to kick rocks or risk contempt and disbarment.

As I said weeks ago, Justice Alito should have minded his own business and waited for a case to reach the SCOTUS properly.

Could be 100% right... just gotta wait n see.... there is a deadline for all of this atleast.

deolio
11-19-2020, 12:36 PM
So to make good on their promises to group X, you're going to piss off group Y by encroaching on their constitutional rights? You think group Y is just going to walk into a police station and leave their shit and wait for a check? I think you're much more na?ve and unintelligent as you think you are.

Did you even read a single thing he wrote or did you just jump to ?DERE GUNNA TAKE MAH GUWNZ?!!!?

?Gun control is easy? - peddling that bullshit about taking guns, restricting sales, stricter modification rules, no extendo-mag thingies blah blah blah is the tactic Dems use because it?s more direct and visible.

?Deliver on promises of general welfare? - addressing mental health, unemployment, housing, and other issues that lead to gun violence would be the correct way to stymie the problem, but it would be expensive, take time, be difficult to quantify, AND the right would scream bloody SOCIALISM the entire time.

zombiewolf513
11-19-2020, 01:03 PM
The left is gonna blow a headgasket once Trump is reelected. Maybe even the welds on the intake.

S14rebuild
11-19-2020, 01:10 PM
The left is gonna blow a headgasket once Trump is reelected. Maybe even the welds on the intake.

"If" it happens...... the country will burn. America will never be the same again

SupaDoopa
11-19-2020, 01:17 PM
Y O U guys. You red tictac mother fuckers desperately clinging to some hope that godking Trump can cheat his supreme cheat and stay president for the rest of his shitty life.

Do you have any legitimate proof that Trump is cheating currently? Or has in the past? Concrete evidence? Something admissible by court? Something you know that the whole Democratic party that's desperately delving into his life, call logs, browser history, tweets, etc. for? Tell us all the good news. Please, share with us, oh King of the Blue.

kingkilburn
11-19-2020, 01:22 PM
Who knows what the bar for "legitimate proof" is to you? You certainly don't. It changes with every new comment.