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kingkilburn
12-14-2020, 03:56 PM
He fired Bill Barr. What a shit show.
zombiewolf513
12-14-2020, 03:59 PM
Hahahahahahahahahahaha
Phlip
12-14-2020, 03:59 PM
What are the rules for replacing an Attorney General with less than a month remaining in an administration?
KA24DESOneThree
12-14-2020, 04:56 PM
IIRC, the replacement must be capable of eating a bag of Haribo Sugar-Free Gummi Bears without intestinal distress.
mrmephistopheles
12-14-2020, 05:03 PM
IIRC, the replacement must be capable of eating a bag of Haribo Sugar-Free Gummi Bears without intestinal distress.
I'm a fucking shoe-in!
Phlip
12-14-2020, 05:23 PM
I'm a fucking shoe-in!
I've read the reviews on Amazon, I am not sure you should try this.
KA24DESOneThree
12-14-2020, 05:28 PM
Oh, and a law degree that is NOT in bird law. The United States won't make that mistake again.
Kevin, what are your qualifications re: pardoning of sitting Presidents for unknown crimes?
mrmephistopheles
12-14-2020, 08:10 PM
I've read the reviews on Amazon, I am not sure you should try this.
This sounds like encouragement. I appreciate your faith in my ability!
Kevin, what are your qualifications re: pardoning of sitting Presidents for unknown crimes?
17 Years experience practicing Legal Law and a Professor Doctor Master degree in Presidential Pardoning.
Sitting Presidents may only be pardoned for unknown crimes. Known crimes are still punishable to the fullest degree of the law.
Future240
12-14-2020, 09:33 PM
Alright who had fired AG in their bingo card?
I?m need either Trump declassifies Area 51 or crazy executive order to get bingo.
Phlip
12-15-2020, 04:00 AM
Alright who had fired AG in their bingo card?
I?m need either Trump declassifies Area 51 or crazy executive order to get bingo.
I still need suspension of Habeus Corpus and ordering military intervention on mine.
2020 is a motherfucker, ain't it?
zombiewolf513
12-15-2020, 05:11 AM
Just short a B for a croaked Biden. Dude looked like he was about to keel over any second with all of that superspreading for 15 minutes.
https://i.ibb.co/QJMvNbY/ohhhhjoeeee.png
Phlip
12-15-2020, 07:08 AM
I was kind of expecting a Hunter Biden and/or Hillary Clinton perp walk on or around Halloween, but apparently Bill Barr had been infiltrated by the deep state and held that close to the vest and that is why he had to go.
TheRealSy90
12-15-2020, 08:28 AM
Glad we get to watch Biden sniff and pet little kids for 4 years.
Phlip
12-15-2020, 08:35 AM
Biden isn't doing four years.
He will stay at least in long enough to allow Kamala to run and serve two full terms, but will likely resign and "move aside."
I am running against her in the 2024 primaries. I plan to release the actual evidence of her "fucking her way to the top" as early as the same night I publicly announce my candidacy.
TheRealSy90
12-15-2020, 08:38 AM
Glad we get to watch Biden sniff and pet little kids for 4 years.
Future240
12-15-2020, 09:11 AM
Now the talk is wait till January 6th. Apparently some right wingers believe Trump will still win.
This is irrelevant. McConnell understands that. Yesterday Trump received more votes than Biden. Right now Trump is ahead. Pence will count the votes on January 6. There most likely will be objections with two sets of electors. It will get sorted out in congress. It?s likelier that Trump wins here given a republican senate and close house. However if neither wins with the vote count the the house will decide. Right now it looks like the house will decide for Trump.
We won!
RalliartRsX
12-15-2020, 09:19 AM
^^ Where is that quote even from?? Moving goal post and all
election night not real -> Fraud -> recount -> process -> -> the rules are such you cannot find fraud (the rules, in some states the gop themselves developed) -> Hugo Chavez (dead for how many years now...) ->fake electors -> making up thier own electors -> court cases -> undermining other State RIghts.............-> dog ate my homework
And the Texas AG and those 126 (or whatever) gop memebrs can get bent for condemning the SCOTUS. I thought that was "their people" (or whatever the fuck that means) they installed??
If you can't convince "you own people" on your statements, just maybe........ya dumb lol
Phlip
12-15-2020, 09:29 AM
Now the talk is wait till January 6th. Apparently some right wingers believe Trump will still win.
As I understand it, it is not an either/or thing but a BOTH chambers thing. If it isn't overturned in both, the results remain as they arrived. With a republican controlled senate, it MIGHT go through if a couple don't peel off in support of this, but it is good as dead in the house.
RalliartRsX
12-15-2020, 09:47 AM
Yep. If someone in the Senate objects to the vote, there needs to a matching sponsor in the House. At which point it then needs to be debated in the chambers for a limited amount of time.
I would like to be a fly on the wall to anyone who objects and what they cite as relevant evidence to objection........and if they had all this evidence, why did they wait until Jan 6th to bring it forth (and not in any of the prior 60 cases or through the SCOTUS).
zombiewolf513
12-15-2020, 09:56 AM
I was kind of expecting a Hunter Biden and/or Hillary Clinton perp walk on or around Halloween, but apparently Bill Barr had been infiltrated by the deep state and held that close to the vest and that is why he had to go.
The elite don't get punished. Only the poor. Barr shoulda been gone looooooong ago.
Future240
12-15-2020, 11:16 AM
^^ Where is that quote even from??
It is from the conservative subreddit.
deolio
12-15-2020, 11:32 AM
I though yesterday was the day zombiewolf was saying our heads would be spinning? What happened? Did I miss it?
kingkilburn
12-15-2020, 12:06 PM
I like how Republicans are reading the rulebook as the game plays out. Every new phase has a new set of fictitious gotchas. You'd think this was the first election in our history.
Imagine if these dumbasses had paid this much attention their whole lives.
zombiewolf513
12-15-2020, 12:49 PM
I though yesterday was the day zombiewolf was saying our heads would be spinning? What happened? Did I miss it?
I've consistently stated and implied that Jan 6 is where this whole thing is headed from the start. You were just too much of a dipshit to realize it.
Or here...just hear this crazy idea....
What if trump knows he can get a court to hear his lawsuit out but wont win..and draws it out long enough past state vote creditation. Those electoral votes can not be assigned.... he does this in 3 states... and well NOOne hits 270......house vote and trump goes 2nd term. Is it possible?yes...along fucking shot?hell yes...but still trump has ways to still win...very fucking slim and near impossiable. But everyone is focued on voter fraud...thinkn trump wants to prove vote by vote is fake.. nope. Not widespread voter fraud. He only needs to take a few districts in 3 states to swing the whole state.
Just all fucking crazyness
That would make him guilty of something he frequently does in blaming the other side for what he is actually doing.
He has been screaming "they're trying to steal the election," and if he were to try this, that is LITERALLY what it would be
No it literally would not.
says the moron who thinks electors being sent for trump is 'undermining the will of the people'
but in response, probably the 1876 election. The only other contested election on this scale predates AP.
Fuck your feelings, remember?
Fuck your feelings too, rigger.
:drama:
https://i.ibb.co/MS2LHq7/do-what-you-must.png
That's right. I asked a question to the entire forum and you answered it (which I do appreciate). Except I didn't claim you were wrong without looking into it, talk a bunch of bullshit, then demand you repeat your response with further enumeration.
But here's another hint for you though, You guys are focusing on the news headlines of court filings in corrupt areas being rejected without investigating the evidence while the very people responsible for the election results are convening and quite literally saying "I don't trust the courts or these results based on this evidence, I'm ready to send electors to Trump" lol.
I'm enjoying the show, tbh. I and many others saw this coming for years. The panic in here amongst the left is palpable and was just as predictable as how this election is playing out. tbh the only state I'm worried about is PA because of who isn't coming into session until next year, and the activist governor likely won't let them convene in an emergency session this year. Even then, we'll find out what happens Jan 6-8.
https://i.ibb.co/cYMCXmL/thegame.jpg
You mean the AP calling it wasnt official? And the safe harbor deadline wasnt official? Surely tomorrow finalizes it all too, and not a joint session on Jan 6.
It's always been January 6 or:
And the democrats want to watch the sequel out of spite...
https://i.ibb.co/g39vY0K/afewmonthsatbidens.png
I like how us retards are reading the rulebook as the game plays out. Every new phase has a new set of hurdles I was completely unaware of because I'm a MSM zombie. I thought this was the first election in our history.
Imagine if our dumbasses had paid this much attention our whole lives.
FTFY
RalliartRsX
12-15-2020, 12:56 PM
zombie wins the inanet. yiippppeeee!!
mrmephistopheles
12-15-2020, 01:10 PM
Fuck your feelings too, rigger.
Can you clarify what you mean by 'rigger'?
zombiewolf513
12-15-2020, 01:11 PM
zombie wins the inanet. yiippppeeee!!
how will i ever recover
Can you clarify what you mean by 'rigger'?
one who rigs or is sympathetic to rigging
kingkilburn
12-15-2020, 01:14 PM
Of course this was always headed to January 6th. That's the process. Pomp and circumstance, followed by Biden's inauguration.
zombiewolf513
12-15-2020, 01:28 PM
Of course this was always headed to January 6th. That's the process. Pomp and circumstance, followed by Biden's inauguration.
:duh: dont sit there and act like you had any idea what was going on. youve been following the pied piper like everyone else this whole time. otherwise you wouldve known what i was talking about
Keep up that confidence tho. I want you real surprised when Trump wins.
KA24DESOneThree
12-15-2020, 01:29 PM
Can you clarify what you mean by 'rigger'?
Ethically, no, he can't.
He knows it's inflammatory and knows it's similar to the 'nagger' joke on South Park but without the social commentary.
It's the equivalent of wearing a mesh mask to own the libs. He's just spreading a disease while saying, "nuh-uh, no I'm not. I'm following your rules."
RalliartRsX
12-15-2020, 01:43 PM
:duh: dont sit there and act like you had any idea what was going on. youve been following the pied piper like everyone else this whole time. otherwise you wouldve known what i was talking about
Keep up that confidence tho. I want you real surprised when Trump wins.
So what happens on Jan 6 that will go against the electoral vote?? Those votes were certified yesterday, so now it's just a case of admin. Why would Jan 6th be any different than a procedural requirement??
brndck
12-15-2020, 02:43 PM
Barr shoulda been gone looooooong ago.
expound on this.
WHY should he have been gone long ago?
zombiewolf513
12-15-2020, 03:57 PM
:cry:
So what happens on Jan 6 that will go against the electoral vote?? Those votes were certified yesterday, so now it's just a case of admin. Why would Jan 6th be any different than a procedural requirement??
Why should I tell you?
expound on this.
WHY should he have been gone long ago?
bc he's been worthless
Green Arrow
12-15-2020, 04:15 PM
Biden doesn't want his kids coming up in a racial jungle, he knows about roaches, and hes aware he's Joe Biden's husband Joe Biden. What's not to love? Also he's a family man, he doesn't want his kids growing up in a racial jungle and loves kids sitting on his lap. I just wish I could ride him as hard as some of you.
Let him be inaugurated, lol.
Kamala should go ahead and drop her seat in the senate, if its all concrete. lmao
zombiewolf513
12-15-2020, 04:56 PM
It's the equivalent of wearing a mesh mask... He's just spreading a disease while saying, "nuh-uh, no I'm not. I'm following your rules."
That's all "face coverings" do anyway.
Ever seen the inside of a COVID ward? Your pussy mask is like wearing sunglasses as PPE for welding, or wearing a snorkel into outer space. It might as well be made of mesh. Wake the fuck up already.
Green Arrow
12-15-2020, 05:08 PM
exactly, they provide no other specifics on material other than you MUST wear a mask. If that doesnt make you question the effectiveness, I cannot help you.
deolio
12-15-2020, 05:50 PM
^Go have a read of the Coronavirus thread
I've consistently stated and implied that Jan 6 is where this whole thing is headed from the start. You were just too much of a dipshit to realize it.
Just keep pushing the date along with the goal posts. What a fun game!
So now you believe that both houses will approve an objection(s) to a state(s) electoral vote count? Because you still believe there is concrete evidence that was not presented prior to the electoral vote? Why would they wait if they had evidence? Why would they wast their time sending Giuliani's peado ass on a phishing trip across the country if they've got PROOF in their back pocket?
zombiewolf513
12-15-2020, 06:06 PM
ffs dude, as much as it pains me to say, Supa was right. Your ass needs hooked on phonics. I haven't shifted a single post, and already answered those questions on this very page, you illiterate moron.
RalliartRsX
12-15-2020, 06:21 PM
Why should I tell you?
Because it is a legitimate question and I would like to hear your answer.
Why would, after the electors have already certified, come Jun 6th become void??
deolio
12-15-2020, 06:25 PM
^Because dangling bullshit carrots above people's heads makes his sociopathic ass feel superior.
ffs dude, as much as it pains me to say, Supa was right. Your ass needs hooked on phonics. I haven't shifted a single post, and already answered those questions on this very page, you illiterate moron.
Hooked on Phonics only works when reading things written by sane people.
zombiewolf513
12-15-2020, 06:40 PM
surrrreee... i guess that's why you still have no idea what the significance of Jan 6th is. It works by moving your eyes across the words I posted. Try reading the whole page before I have to explain this an 8th time. or do a google search since you like to swing that bullshit around.
kingkilburn
12-15-2020, 06:50 PM
Getting you buffoons to be remotely coherent might actually be impossible.
zombiewolf513
12-15-2020, 06:58 PM
>doesnt understand
>calls you crazy
Yup. You're right guys. It's over. Biden won. Jan 6th doesn't mean anything. Just a formality, don't worry about it :ddog:
Corbic
12-15-2020, 07:20 PM
https://youtu.be/6i1HtyjNUiQ
deolio
12-15-2020, 07:40 PM
surrrreee... i guess that's why you still have no idea what the significance of Jan 6th is. It works by moving your eyes across the words I posted. Try reading the whole page before I have to explain this an 8th time. or do a google search since you like to swing that bullshit around.
Yeah, you keep quoting yourself over and over, but that doesn't clarify shit. What you and s14rebuild wrote is nearly unintelligible.
As I understand it (thanks google), on January 6th, Pence is gonna use his wittle hands to open his wittle wetter with the electoral vote totals in congress. If anyone has an objection to a state's electoral vote count the two houses fuck off and debate it separately. If they both approve the objection then the electoral votes for that state will be invalidated.
If they invalidate enough states' electoral votes for Biden (so that he does not have 270 electoral votes) then the vote will go to the house of reps, where every state only gets one vote, which mayyyy lead to Biden losing - since the house is majority Republican.
Made me think of another question - are they legally acting as electors under this circumstance? If so, wouldn't voting opposite of their state make them faithless electors? If that is the case then Biden still wins since 26 states voted Biden.
Is something else at play here? What am I missing? This shit still sounds HIGLY improbable.
kingkilburn
12-15-2020, 09:53 PM
It's been over since election night. The media has been playing it ultra safe for months because of all fraud talk. In any other election the cycle would have moved on with minor updates about potential nominations and policy roadmaps.
If anything they should be obsessing about the Georgia Senate runoffs.
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 03:05 AM
Yeah, you keep quoting yourself over and over, but that doesn't clarify shit. What you and s14rebuild wrote is nearly unintelligible.
As I understand it (thanks google), on January 6th, Pence is gonna use his wittle hands to open his wittle wetter with the electoral vote totals in congress. If anyone has an objection to a state's electoral vote count the two houses fuck off and debate it separately. If they both approve the objection then the electoral votes for that state will be invalidated.
If they invalidate enough states' electoral votes for Biden (so that he does not have 270 electoral votes) then the vote will go to the house of reps, where every state only gets one vote, which mayyyy lead to Biden losing - since the house is majority Republican.
Is something else at play here? What am I missing? This shit still sounds HIGLY improbable.
Finally. Close. All but the last part. I mean, you have to admit that its a lot to try to explain between shitposts. The voters in that scenario are forced to vote along state party lines with one vote for each state. In which case Trump wins it with something like 26:24 or 27:23.
Has it been a long shot? Yes. But the democrats have been playing right into it at every checkpoint. It's coming down to if the republicans have the balls to make it happen.
Made me think of another question - are they legally acting as electors under this circumstance? If so, wouldn't voting opposite of their state make them faithless electors? If that is the case then Biden still wins since 26 states voted Biden.
Separate from that other scenario^
The alternate electors would come in if something like one of these audits proves Trump won. The alternate electors' votes would be certified by the Governor(s), and Mike Pence could choose which set of electors is counted. I don't see it going this way though. The dueling electors, IMO, is mainly some kind of smoke signal like how the 40 something state AGs signed onto the Texas lawsuit. It's telling the members of the houses that they're all on board with objecting to the electoral votes while exhausting all other means first.
mrmephistopheles
12-16-2020, 11:14 AM
one who rigs or is sympathetic to rigging
Ohh, a made-up definition I see.
Well aren't you just a jackfruit?
See, that word has a real-life meaning, but I'm using it based on my own definition. Does that make me clever?
You're not clever and if you even appear to hint at being racist again one more time, you're gone forever.
Please.
PLEASE.
Test me.
Phlip
12-16-2020, 12:13 PM
McConnell doesn't want any smoke nearing the Georgia runoff. He has accepted the winner
https://www.businessinsider.com/mitch-mcconnell-leaked-call-congress-biden-win-2020-12
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 05:38 PM
Ohh, a made-up definition I see.
Well aren't you just a jackfruit?
See, that word has a real-life meaning, but I'm using it based on my own definition. Does that make me clever?
You're not clever and if you even appear to hint at being racist again one more time, you're gone forever.
Please.
PLEASE.
Test me. :cry:
So are you going to ban the people talking shit on veterans and disabilities directly? Or just people that you think are racist?
Maybe ask yourself why you assume everything has to do with race.
mrmephistopheles
12-16-2020, 06:00 PM
So are you going to ban the people talking shit on veterans and disabilities directly? Or just people that you think are racist?
Maybe ask yourself why you assume everything has to do with race.
There's a 'Report Post' button for a reason. Everyone is allowed to utilize it, and nobody beyond mods/admins can see what is reported.
Go off about how I'm just imagining things, too.
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 06:05 PM
Is that a yes or no?
You are imagining things. If I wanted to be racist, you'd know it.
FaLKoN240
12-16-2020, 06:33 PM
So are you going to ban the people talking shit on veterans and disabilities directly? Or just people that you think are racist?
Maybe ask yourself why you assume everything has to do with race.
Banned him for abusing the reporting feature for a day.
mrmephistopheles
12-16-2020, 07:29 PM
Fuck your feelings, remember?
Fuck your feelings too, rigger.
Is that a yes or no?
You are imagining things. If I wanted to be racist, you'd know it.
OK then.
[Sherlock Holmes with magnifying glass]
It stands to reason that by italicizing and bolding 'rigger', you wanted special attention drawn to it. After all, calling someone a racist or calling someone a racist have the same impact. Given that you've claimed your definition does not comport with reality, why then would you draw attention to it without providing that context?
Simple. Most racists are cowards who prefer to seem like they're not and will argue to they're or if breath that they're not, because they know they're lack intestinal fortitude enough to stand for what they believe. They know they're on the ignorant and illogical side, but if that's what they grew up with, it's a place of comfort. If there's anything humans are afraid of, it's change. That seems like an awful specific conclusion to draw, so how could I have gotten here?
[Office Space Jump to Conclusions mat]
I was like you once. I held all kinds of backwards beliefs about folks of other races. I'm still checking myself for prejudicial thoughts. I behaved the same way as you. Cowardly statements that weren't overly racist, but easily understood. I have no doubt some of that stupid shit is present in my post history here. If you want to find it and call me on it, knock yourself out. I'll own it.
With that said, your defensive behavior has told me everything I needed to know without the context of my evolution. A person who wasn't trying to covertly call someone a nigger would apologize for the misunderstanding and seek to clarify.
So like I said, keep telling me I'm imagining things.
FaLKoN240 - was this recently? Was it a good-faith effort to stop abuse or something else?
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 07:58 PM
Dude. You asked me to clarify and I did. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A RIGGED ELECTION. HENCE THE WORD "RIGGER"
You're the one extrapolating race. THATS THE FUCKING TROLL DUDE. IF I WANTED TO CALL SOMEONE THE N-WORD.... I'D CALL THEM THE N-WORD. FUCK YOU FOR EVEN DARING PUT THAT WORD IN MY MOUTH YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE. My only friends still alive are black, hispanic, and asian. With whom I've been lifelong friends and have served in combat with AND HAVE DEPENDED EACH OTHERS LIVES TO. YOU KNOW FUCKALL OF ME TO MAKE SUCH A BRAZEN FUCKING ASSUMPTION AS TO CALL ME AND ACT ON THE ASSUMPTION OF SUCH A HORRIBLE, LIFE RUINING THING, AS BEING RACIST AND CLAIMING I USED THOSE WORDS. GUESS WHAT?! IM GAY TOO! WANT TO BAN ME FOR THAT AGAIN TOO?!
If I was racist, why would I be here having full blown conversations, spanning decades, with people I thought were different than myself? Does that make sense to you?????
You want to know what's being a coward????
I almost get banned for percieved racism.
Its not racism and I point out direct harrassment based on disability and veteran status (which are just as much protected classes as race and gender and whathaveyou).
Then the mod tells me to report posts.
I report posts directly targetting myself and other members for being in those protected classes, including posts from Phlip.
Then I get actually banned by another mod (aware of whats going on) for reporting those posts.
Cool. The second you find out you're BTFO on the topic you shift up to some bullshit and ban me for essentially being a veteran and disabled, and following the rules on reporting hate speech and harassment.
Grow the fuck up you full blown psychopaths. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the staff here running the scams in the For Sale forum.
Should we talk about the veiled threats you've been sending me, then deleting, through my reputation messages? Come and fucking try it, pussy. I really dare you.
You can go ahead and perma-ban me now. Fuck you coward authoritarian, gas lighting, mother fuckers.
RalliartRsX
12-16-2020, 08:00 PM
....... Rememeber when zombie told me to have my wife rammed by a dude named "Tyrone"?
Yeah Pepperidge farm remembers....
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 08:08 PM
So what? Your wife can't like fucking a guy named Tyrone?
RalliartRsX
12-16-2020, 08:27 PM
Lol
Ultimate #snowflake meltdown in full effect.....
For a marine, who has allegedly deployed and is hardened, you sure are sensitive....
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 08:29 PM
Maybe your wife would like kingkilburn to introduce her to a gigga rigga:
Did someone invoke GIGA RIGGA?! You can move the goal posts but GIGA RIGGA never loses!
https://images3.memedroid.com/images/UPLOADED460/5e45973be9539.jpeg
LEG1T
12-16-2020, 08:53 PM
The problem is we have given you hints that those terms were walking a fine line, and you continued to push it.
Yes you can ultimately say what you want but when someone tells you that you’re walking a fine line of racism why continue to push on further?
I know why because you continue to try and reign supreme in your ignorance. You know what you are doing, but you don’t care. Just like you don’t care about wearing a mask because of what you believe. Just because YOU believe it’s ok does not make it.
We are not riggers, we did not rig the election, so wtf are you even on about???
And saying someone’s wife is getting rammed by a dude named Tyrone is clear as fuck, stop playing that bullshit you know wtf you are doing, just own that shit.
http://https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D-5o3OMWkAA_61o.jpg
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 08:57 PM
shut up retard. i only started making edgy jokes to specific people after those fucking assholes started insulting my service and PTSD and other zilvia members service and PTSD.
Now you complain with made up claims of racism. Go fuck yourself you humorless, dogpiling, egotist and your god damn bipolar superiority/inferiority complex nonsense.
mrmephistopheles
12-16-2020, 09:04 PM
Dude. You asked me to clarify and I did. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A RIGGED ELECTION. HENCE THE WORD "RIGGER"
No, the post you reported earlier had obvious context referencing the election, further, the use of 'rigger' as an accusatory term is so specious I genuinely cannot believe you're STILL trying to defend it.
You're the one extrapolating race. THATS THE FUCKING TROLL DUDE. IF I WANTED TO CALL SOMEONE THE N-WORD.... I'D CALL THEM THE N-WORD. FUCK YOU FOR EVEN DARING PUT THAT WORD IN MY MOUTH YOU FUCKING ASSHOLE. My only friends still alive are black, hispanic, and asian. With whom I've been lifelong friends and have served in combat with AND HAVE DEPENDED EACH OTHERS LIVES TO. YOU KNOW FUCKALL OF ME TO MAKE SUCH A BRAZEN FUCKING ASSUMPTION AS TO CALL ME AND ACT ON THE ASSUMPTION OF SUCH A HORRIBLE, LIFE RUINING THING, AS BEING RACIST AND CLAIMING I USED THOSE WORDS. GUESS WHAT?! IM GAY TOO! WANT TO BAN ME FOR THAT AGAIN TOO?!
I don't know you, I don't know your friends, I don't know your life experience. All I know is what you've presented here.
If you don't like how you're being perceived, it would do you well to consider adjusting how you're presenting yourself.
If I was racist, why would I be here having full blown conversations, spanning decades, with people I thought were different than myself? Does that make sense to you?????
To be honest (and this isn't about you, so don't feel obliged to take offense), the last 4 years have shown me how many people around me are at best indifferent to- and at worst emboldened by Trump's bigotry. Proud Boys, Boogaloo Bois, Richard Spencer, et al. have all been having a grand time proudly wearing their bigotry for all to see. On the one hand, it's nice to know who is a piece of shit and who's not. On the other, it's very frustrating to me given that I was once that sort of piece of shit, knowing full well that it's a dumbass point of view and encouraging it is about the last thing that this country needs right now.
So, for clarity's sake - it doesn't shock me that a person could otherwise keep their point of view to themselves unless they felt comfortable enough that their otherwise crappy views were espoused by the leader of the free world.
You want to know what's being a coward????
I almost get banned for percieved racism.
Its not racism and I point out direct harrassment based on disability and veteran status (which are just as much protected classes as race and gender and whathaveyou).
Then the mod tells me to report posts.
I report posts directly targetting myself and other members for being in those protected classes, including posts from Phlip.
Then I get banned by another mod (aware of whats going on) for reporting those posts.
Cool. The second you find out you're BTFO on the topic you shift up to some bullshit and essentially ban me for being a veteran and disabled.
You think you're the only one here with a rating from the VA? I've been fighting them since 2003, so you've not got my sympathy there. I know people are effected differently by psychological issues, but two of my best buds are both rated for PTSD, and aside from the minor issues they function very well. One of them used to have big anger issues but he's gotten much better. I've never heard either of them complain about having gotten grief for having it, but I can understand why something like that could make one feel attacked.
That said, I'm not OK with people being attacked for mental health issues. Like sexual orientation or skin pigment, psychological issues aren't something you can choose, and as such I'm not ok with people being shitty about it.
Have you made it known that you have PTSD? Have you addressed persons referencing it to let them know you're not OK with it? If someone gives me shit for having a bigger left night than right, but I've never made that known, how in the world am I really going to be mad at that person? If I have let it be known and someone brings it up, I'm going to address them first.
With regard to all your friends being of different races and your service with them, that's great. I have people I served with that like other folks they served with that weren't white, but otherwise don't care for non-whites.
Grow the fuck up you full blown psychopaths. I wouldn't be surprised if it was the staff here running the scams in the For Sale forum.
Should we talk about the veiled threats you've been sending me, then deleting, through my reputation messages? Come and fucking try it, pussy. I really dare you.
You can go ahead and perma-ban me now. Fuck you coward authoritarian, gas lighting, mother fuckers.
What scams are you referencing? I've been out of the loop for quite a while and given my recent purchases have decided to come back to the community in a fraction of my former capacity. When I left, we had stringent rules to help prevent fraud, and I've always had a zero tolerance policy with regard to scammers/thieves. PM me if you like.
I haven't left you any reputation, and the last one I did was as a favor for someone who'd been brigaded unjustly.
If you're seeing a rep left with my username on it, screenshot it so I can figure out what IP is accessing my account.
I don't do passive aggressive stuff like that.
Regarding any corrective action, that ball is in your court. I'm not interested in having an echo chamber of like minded individuals. Variety of opinion is great. Having reasoned and rational discussions wherein you are attacking your opponent's ideas and not their character (as well as all the other logical fallacies) is how people make progress, even if it's just understanding a different point of view.
Like I said before, you are perceived according to your words. If you feel you're being misunderstood, you need to make it clear. Being antagonistic and argumentative aren't conducive to proving that you're right.
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 09:15 PM
I reported much more than that one post. And I could report another 7-10 of recent posts that are even worse. I stopped once Falkon240 banned me. Choosing to ignore that for the sake of the one report of someone else talking about the context is fucking weak sauce man. Missing the forest for the trees.
I HAVE made it clear. yet youre still CHOOSING to make ASSUMPTIONS on my beliefs. The joke has context, and youre CHOOSING to be offended. I've even used it on people I know are white. Youre making fucking assumptions dude. That one idiot talked about lynching people or whatever, yeah ban someone for that shit. For edgy jokes in response to hate speech? come the fuck on.
I'm not asking for sympathy dummy, I'm asking for integrity and fairness in how you're applying your rules. THATS WHY I HAVENT BEEN REPORTING THESE IDIOTS POSTS. I LET IT ROLL OFF MY BACK AND MOVE ON PLAYING BALL A LITTLE HARDER THAN BEFORE. If you've served, at least in the capacity I did, you know just as well as I do that what I'm saying is fucking shit-talking jokes mixed with conversation. un-fuckin-real. So I'm supposed to sit here and let hate speech roll off MY back, but I can't make edgy jokes in response after telling them that what theyre saying is super fucked up? And then when you tell me to report it, so i do, I get banned for reporting it and told I'm a sympathy case for going to bat for myself once you unban me after realizing how fucked up it is how i was just banned. Whatever man.
I don't know who it is leaving the messages, all i see is the message and what post they rated until its deleted. Again, I've been letting this stupid fucking shit roll off my back. You don't see the tons of spam accounts attempting to swindle users unabashedly? holy shit.
That you want to pretend like I take marching orders from Trump or I'm in any way associated with any of those groups (MANY I HAVE STATED IN THIS THREAD THAT I CANT FUCKING STAND) is crazy dude. IM A PERSON. I HAVE MY OWN FUCKING THOUGHTS.
YOU ASKED ME WHAT THE WORD MEANT AND I TOLD YOU. EITHER STOP GASLIGHTING ME OR BAN ME.
FaLKoN240
12-16-2020, 09:42 PM
FaLKoN240 - was this recently? Was it a good-faith effort to stop abuse or something else?
I undid it after I saw it was a petty response to your call to test him. I wanted to see what his meltdown would be and of course, he reported it after he was banned for less than 5 minutes.
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 09:47 PM
I undid it after I saw it was a petty response to your call to test him. I wanted to see what his meltdown would be and of course, he reported it after he was banned for less than 5 minutes.
Whatever you fucking doxxing coward. You are fucking petty. You gonna post my IP address, too, like you did to that other user? Maybe my home address from my sale interactions?
mrmephistopheles
12-16-2020, 09:47 PM
I HAVE made it clear. yet youre still CHOOSING to make ASSUMPTIONS on my beliefs. The joke has context, and youre CHOOSING to be offended. I've even used it on people I know are white. Youre making fucking assumptions dude. That one idiot talked about lynching people or whatever, yeah ban someone for that shit. For edgy jokes in response to hate speech? come the fuck on.
Search my posts if you don't believe me, but I've punished users for using inappropriate terms, knowing full well they're friends and weren't going to be offended by what was said.
I'm making assumptions because the context is limited. How can I do anything else?
I'm not asking for sympathy dummy, I'm asking for integrity and fairness in how you're applying your rules. If you've served, at least in the capacity I did, you know just as well as I do that what I'm saying is fucking shit-talking jokes mixed with conversation. un-fuckin-real. So I'm supposed to sit here and let hate speech roll off MY back, but I can't make edgy jokes in response. Whatever man.
Look, I'm all for meting out the minimum amount of corrective action to resolve the issue, and nobody is immune from that (I even pinked or banned myself for a week back in 2006 or so). That said, I've never gotten upset by people shit talking me (and believe me I've gotten plenty here). Maybe you didn't do the "Shit-talking for Marines" MCI or something, but it feels like you're either acting offended for sympathy or you're relatively thin-skinned.
That said, I'm not a fan of sinking to others' levels. I'm a better person than those who would genuinely attack me for bullshit, and I'm not willing to debase myself to let them receive the satisfaction of upsetting me.
I don't know who it is leaving the messages, all i see is the message and what post they rated until its deleted. You don't see the tons of spam accounts attempting to swindle users unabashedly? holy shit.
If you don't know who it is, why accuse me? I've never seen a rep left without a name, so I'm dubious of your claim, but I'm willing to wait out making a judgment so that you have a chance to prove your claim with a screenshot.
No, as I said I haven't been active.
That you want to pretend like I take marching orders from Trump or I'm in any way associated with any of those groups (MANY I HAVE STATED IN THIS THREAD THAT I CANT FUCKING STAND)
YOU ASKED ME WHAT THE WORD MEANT AND I TOLD YOU. EITHER STOP GASLIGHTING ME OR BAN ME.
I haven't pretended or claimed anything like what you're describing (beyond questioning your affinity for Bill Barr). That said, your adamant claim that there was definitely fraud in the election echoes that of the entirety of the GOP, especially Trump. It's weird to have someone talk about how delicious steak is and then they claim they're a lifelong vegetarian, ya know?
FaLKoN240
12-16-2020, 09:49 PM
Whatever you fucking doxxing coward. You gonna post my IP address, too? Maybe my home address from my sale interactions?
LOL you're still going on about that?
No one doxxed him.
I should have banned him for having more than one account, but I didn't.
I did it to expose Mr wannabe grand dragon cock slayer or whatever bullshit name he had.
Get over it.
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 09:54 PM
Fuck both of you.
mrmephistopheles
12-16-2020, 10:16 PM
Fuck both of you.
Given my patience with you, I'd say that's uncalled for.
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 10:17 PM
With that said, your defensive behavior has told me everything I needed to know without the context of my evolution. A person who wasn't trying to covertly call someone a nigger would apologize for the misunderstanding and seek to clarify.
Can you clarify what you mean by 'rigger'?
one who rigs or is sympathetic to rigging
Dude. You asked me to clarify and I did. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT A RIGGED ELECTION. HENCE THE WORD "RIGGER"
How much more clear could it be made? you're the ONLY one that has used the N-word.
DreamN
12-16-2020, 11:07 PM
lol clarify the term 'jogger' for me, please.
:D
kingkilburn
12-16-2020, 11:09 PM
Why are you guys giving this jackass more rope? He's already as hung as he imagines this Tyrone fellow to be. The only time you get good faith from him is when his feelings are hurt. Mind you it won't be an intelligent response.
And for the record, I wasn't making fun of veterans I was making fun of YOU you dumb mother fucker. You keep going on about doxxing while you actively stalk me on Facebook. Non Fidelis ass.
zombiewolf513
12-16-2020, 11:13 PM
You know what jogger means. :D
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...nigger...
zombiewolf513
12-17-2020, 12:56 AM
If you don't know who it is, why accuse me? I've never seen a rep left without a name, so I'm dubious of your claim, but I'm willing to wait out making a judgment so that you have a chance to prove your claim with a screenshot.
It sounds like you want to take charge, so who else is to blame?
https://i.ibb.co/7trH2Zp/Rep1.png
https://i.ibb.co/GPdMz9P/rep2.png
Phlip
12-17-2020, 05:31 AM
Now tell us what "sperg" means since you posted that several times as well.
I mean, given our understanding of the language and the context of your lack of decency toward people we surely know, but since you're in an entertaining mood these days. Let's see what you want to tell us it means.
Green Arrow
12-17-2020, 06:01 AM
Geez...yall spend alot of time asking Zombie what a word means when there is plenty of context to draw a conclusion. Rigger= People who rigged, or supported rigging. Stop being dumb. And I too have received rep with out a name to associate it with. Riggers gonna rig.
Turn post count on to be consistent with the rep being on in this thread. Yall keep riding Biden and soon he will bust.
Phlip
12-17-2020, 06:33 AM
And I too have received rep with out a name to associate it with. Riggers gonna rig.
Everyone gets rep without names attached. If you're saying that you received one with that as the comment, then you're a liar.
Turn post count on to be consistent with the rep being on in this thread.
No
You don't get to make demands.
LEG1T
12-17-2020, 06:54 AM
Green Arrow so anyone that leaves you Neg rep is a rigger??
Your just as dumb and ignorant as zombie.
How do you classify anyone that disagrees with you as one that engages in cheating at an election?
Trump has really damaged your intellect badly.
Jogger, is Zombies reference to the black man that was shot while jogging by the 2 white men with a shotgun. You think that’s shits funny or cool???
The ones throwing out offensive slurs, don’t get to dictate what’s offensive to the targeted group.
How tf are you going to tell a person what should and should not offend them if contextually and figuratively the terms you are referencing has racial overtones and has been negatively oppressing that said group??
Don’t say anything on here that you can’t say in real life to said people.
Go up to a group of black ppl and call them riggers and see what happens.
If that’s enough to potentially get you killed in real life you can see why it should be enough to have it stopped here.
Stop condoning and doubling down on shit you guys are blatantly being ignorant about.
LEG1T
12-17-2020, 07:27 AM
You what’s fucked?
Reading a previous comment on here about one guy wanting to be friends, one guy wishing another guy happy birthday. One guy claiming to come in peace to what I only assume to be a moderator of minority.
This same individual then goes on to throw out a comment about lynching showing his entire wolf under a finely laid sheet.
This is the shit we can’t skirt or be oblivious too. Can you imagine letting a person like that close to your family or in your home knowing how they really feel when they are not around you. That’s shits disgusting..
That shit is unacceptable and history, time, and language tells us who these people are. The same ones that show the symptoms always end up being the is the same ones that carry the the disease shit must be stopped because this same disease has tried to kill us before if it spreads large enough.
People joke about Hitler but this is exactly how it started..He’s not bad he just wants to make our country better. He’s not bad he just wants to make sure they are clean, he’s not bad he just is trying to protect us.
When enough people believe this is ok, this is when it puts the minorities at risk and we not gonna sit back and let that shit happen again.
Fuck that and fuck those that try it..
RalliartRsX
12-17-2020, 07:56 AM
Just hear to watch #snowflake marine melt melt and subsequently implode hahahahah!
What ever happened to "fuck your feelings"?? zombie post went right to the feels hahahahah!
Future240
12-17-2020, 08:18 AM
^^^That only applies to lefties. The maga-klan is about them feels when it comes to their Grand leader.
Future240
12-17-2020, 08:27 AM
To further my point
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2020/12/15/why-rush-limbaugh-is-laughing-all-the-way-to-the-bank/
Political commentator David Frum wrote something extremely prescient about the future of conservatism in his book, Trumpocracy. He said that “If conservatives become convinced that they cannot win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. They will reject democracy.” That is exactly what’s happening as the president, and his enablers challenge the election results.
The quote from Trumpocracy, however, isn’t the only time Frum was prescient about conservatives. Ten years ago, the former George W. Bush speechwriter took on the real leaders of the Republican Party: right-wing commentators on television and talk radio.
I’ve been on a soapbox for months now about the harm that our overheated talk is doing to us. Yes it mobilizes supporters — but by mobilizing them with hysterical accusations and pseudo-information, overheated talk has made it impossible for representatives to represent and elected leaders to lead. The real leaders are on TV and radio, and they have very different imperatives from people in government.
Frum went on to point out that television and talk radio personalities have no interest in governing. Their goal is to draw more eyes and ears to their shows (puts money in their pockets), which is much easier to do if their audience is riled up.
To explain why more than half of the Republican members of Congress signed on to Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton’s attempt to destroy democracy by overturning the election, Kevin Drum got to the heart of the matter by writing, “they’re signing it because they’ve created both a base and an entertainment complex that will punish them if they don’t continue to feed it ever larger and bloodier chunks of red meat.”
Fox News has become the leading example of what happens when a right-wing network doesn’t dish enough red meat. While commentators like Sean Hannity, Tucker Carlson, and Laura Ingraham continue to spread propaganda, the news division is partially grounded in reality. In response, the Fox News audience is fleeing to Newsmax and OANN, where they are fed a steady diet of outrage.
!Zar!
12-17-2020, 08:36 AM
Poor AC repairman is dealing with the consequences of Trumps false claims.
Aguirre told he had been conducting surveillance for four days on Lopez because he thought the AC repairman was somehow mastermind of a giant voter fraud scheme. Aguirre told authorities the man was hiding 750,000 fraudulent ballots in a truck he was driving.
On Oct. 19, Aguirre allegedly ran his SUV into the back of the truck to get Zuniga to stop and get out.
When Zuniga got out of the truck, Aguirre pointed a handgun at him, forced him to the ground and put his knee on his back until police came, the court document said.
At the time of the alleged crime, Aguirre was working as a contract investigator for conservative activist Steven Hotze. Hotze has made a name for himself for alleging widespread voter fraud in Harris County, even when none has been found. This fall, Hotze use the "Liberty Center" he funds to hire around 20 private investigators and other workers to investigate incidents of alleged fraud.
zombiewolf513
12-17-2020, 08:43 AM
^Nobody cares, we're talking about how racist I am rn
Just hear to watch #snowflake marine melt melt and subsequently implode hahahahah!
What ever happened to "fuck your feelings"?? zombie post went right to the feels hahahahah!
lol lets seee.....
Green Arrow so anyone that leaves you Neg rep is a rigger??
Your just as dumb and ignorant as zombie.
How do you classify anyone that disagrees with you as one that engages in cheating at an election?
Trump has really damaged your intellect badly.
Because riggers gonna rig.
Jogger, is Zombies reference to the black man that was shot while jogging by the 2 white men with a shotgun. You think that?s shits funny or cool???
He has a name, Ahmaud Arbery.... hes not just a black object for you to wield like a political cudgel. But yes, shits hilarious. He was a jogger alright.
The ones throwing out offensive slurs, don?t get to dictate what?s offensive to the targeted group.
Then I guess your rigger friends shoulda just stfu when they had the chance.... but they wanted to get toxic and offensive... so here we are.
How tf are you going to tell a person what should and should not offend them if contextually and figuratively the terms you are referencing has racial overtones and has been negatively oppressing that said group??
You seem to be pretty quiet about veterans and the disabled being directly harassed.
Don?t say anything on here that you can?t say in real life to said people.
Go up to a group of black ppl and call them riggers and see what happens.
If that?s enough to potentially get you killed in real life you can see why it should be enough to have it stopped here.
Are you suggesting that groups of black people can't control their emotions so much that they'll physically attack you and murder you for saying arbitrary words?
Sounds like a pack of wild animals to me. Why would you say that about black people?
You're so worried about words like rigger and jogger, and completely overlook this:
... nigger ...
You what?s fucked?
Reading a previous comment on here about one guy wanting to be friends, one guy wishing another guy happy birthday. One guy claiming to come in peace to what I only assume to be a moderator of minority.
This same individual then goes on to throw out a comment about lynching showing his entire wolf under a finely laid sheet.
This is the shit we can?t skirt or be oblivious too. Can you imagine letting a person like that close to your family or in your home knowing how they really feel when they are not around you. That?s shits disgusting..
Sounds like a good time, to me.
That shit is unacceptable and history, time, and language tells us who these people are. The same ones that show the symptoms always end up being the is the same ones that carry the the disease shit must be stopped because this same disease has tried to kill us before if it spreads large enough.
People joke about Hitler but this is exactly how it started..He?s not bad he just wants to make our country better. He?s not bad he just wants to make sure they are clean, he?s not bad he just is trying to protect us.
When enough people believe this is ok, this is when it puts the minorities at risk and we not gonna sit back and let that shit happen again.
Fuck that and fuck those that try it..
WAHHHH BAN HIM WAAAHHHHH HITLER WAHHHHH NAZIS WAAAAAHHHH MINORITIEES WAAAAHHHHH
Now tell us what "sperg" means since you posted that several times as well.
I mean, given our understanding of the language and the context of your lack of decency toward people we surely know, but since you're in an entertaining mood these days. Let's see what you want to tell us it means.
It means Phlip.
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... nigger ...
!Zar!
12-17-2020, 08:56 AM
You seem to be pretty quiet about veterans and the disabled being directly harassed.
PTSD much?
...I wish more tax money would go into psychiatric help...
I just told you. What youre talking about is a fairy tale. In reality, the mental hospitals take advantage of the homeless population for those sweet government checks, and in return give them NOTHING. Ive seen it. You dont know what youre asking for.
In one thread you're crying about mental illness, and in another you're against action on it trying to address it.
zombiewolf513
12-17-2020, 09:00 AM
lol. Because you threw that insult at another veteran? So I threw it at you. How's your church friend by the way? Still shot in the back?
Way to bring up a topic which had zero to do with what we were talking about.
You certainly know how to prove a point.
PTSD much?
good point, retard. Learn to read.
!Zar!
12-17-2020, 09:00 AM
Wait till Trump claims squatters rights.
Called it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-reportedly-threatened-not-to-leave-white-house-on-inauguration-day2020-12
!Zar!
12-17-2020, 09:22 AM
good point, retard. Learn to read.
Arguing for mental illness and sympathy, and then saying this.
Which one is it?
zombiewolf513
12-17-2020, 09:25 AM
The one where youre a retard.
How long until that racist moderator comes back in here and blames me for the mess he made?
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... nigger ...
zombiewolf513
12-17-2020, 09:31 AM
fikTkl-H0VE?t=331
mrmephistopheles
12-17-2020, 09:33 AM
You're so worried about words like rigger and jogger, and completely overlook this:
Taking one word out of that post and utilizing it out of context is a rather weak and cowardly attempt to indict me for misbehavior. I'm completely shocked. :rolleyes:
I've been very patient and given you plenty of opportunity to redeem yourself, yet you remain obtuse and argumentative. I'm giving you til the end of the day, if you can't come to terms with the limitations you have to work within to remain a regular user of this forum I'll send you on your way. I'm sure such an event will allow you to feel some righteous indignation, so I'm not doubting your willingness to simply escalate.
I've been extremely patient and tried to be understanding, you're being nothing but combative and contrarian. You can claim a pyrrhic victory all you want, but it wasn't for a lack of compassion on my part.
With regard to the rep comments, I guess mods/admins can see who left them rep, but not the inverse. C'est la vie.
Ball is in your court, champ.
zombiewolf513
12-17-2020, 09:34 AM
Ohhhhhhhh so NOOWWWWW taking words out of context is not okay. sure thing
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... nigger ...
kingkilburn
12-17-2020, 09:36 AM
Geez...yall spend alot of time asking Zombie what a word means when there is plenty of context to draw a conclusion. Rigger= People who rigged, or supported rigging. Stop being dumb. And I too have received rep with out a name to associate it with. Riggers gonna rig.
Turn post count on to be consistent with the rep being on in this thread. Yall keep riding Biden and soon he will bust.
You have personally tried to negative rep me more than once without leaving your name. Ask me how I know.
Enjoy more negative rep for that shit.
RalliartRsX
12-17-2020, 09:40 AM
Off to Parlor zombie goes in less than 24 to bitch and complain about Zilvia mods.....
zombiewolf513
12-17-2020, 09:41 AM
Off to Parlor zombie goes in less than 24 to bitch and complain about Zilvia mods.....
lol, yeah... 15 years here and I only have one account. lol.
Enjoy more negative rep for that shit.
aaaaaand on to the next target.... see ya on facebook!
Riggers. Know what I mean?
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... nigger ...
!Zar!
12-17-2020, 09:43 AM
What if Zombie is Trump?
mrmephistopheles
12-17-2020, 09:44 AM
Ohhhhhhhh so NOOWWWWW taking words out of context is not okay. sure thing
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Given that you're not providing the context in both cases, yeah it's still not OK.
Wasn't expecting a solid self-own, but there it is.
zombiewolf513
12-17-2020, 09:50 AM
What if Zombie is Trump?
That'd be cool
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... nigger ...
mrmephistopheles
12-17-2020, 09:53 AM
Off to Parlor zombie goes in less than 24 to bitch and complain about Zilvia mods.....
This used to be an extremely common occurrence.
RalliartRsX
12-17-2020, 09:53 AM
LOL. And zombie just updated his signature to......
Well, ya'll can read it yourselves.....
!Zar!
12-17-2020, 09:54 AM
Riggers.
Tmcb8XCBYCE
zombiewolf513
12-17-2020, 09:56 AM
I held all kinds of backwards beliefs about folks of other races. I'm still checking myself for prejudicial thoughts.
...nigger
Keep checking.
... nigger ...
!Zar!
12-17-2020, 10:00 AM
Can we go back to mr.nismo representing the red tic tac party?
zombiewolf513
12-17-2020, 10:01 AM
Tmcb8XCBYCE
He's literally Orange Hitler, and white people are a monolith.
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... nigger ...
deolio
12-17-2020, 01:40 PM
Finally. Close. All but the last part. I mean, you have to admit that its a lot to try to explain between shitposts.
But I meannnn if you actually wanna have a conversation about it, it?s worth the time. If your only intent is to gaslight and troll then yeah :rofl:
Anyway, carryon with your hypocritical tirade.
s13 @ fullboost
12-17-2020, 01:47 PM
We need to just move on..... I am a conservative no doubt about that, with that said I have some liberal tendency's. Guess you could say fiscally conservative socially liberal. Trump was never my favorite but he was my choice. On Nov 4th I totally accepted Biden as my new president. I really wish more conservatives would do the same. In 2016 the left did the same stuff with Hilary's loss.(Minus the super petty lawsuits) We need to grow up as a whole. I still have faith in our democracy even in these trying times.
We are all Americans & most importantly we need to remember to respect each other. 20 years ago, you could go to your neighbors house and have dinner, you know they have a polar opposite political view than you, but you love them unconditionally because they are your neighbor & you respect them.
America is Yin & Yang and that is what makes us work. This place would suck if it was 100% right or left. The balance of both is key.
I with out a doubt believe there is corruption in our local, state, and federal government. It is most certainly not a one sided thing. The corruption is deep in both parties. We need to work on more bipartisanship and get these individuals out. That is step one.
When 9-11-2001 happened (regardless of your opinions on it) we as a country quickly united. Why? Because as a whole we were attacked. Look how strong we can be, Katrina same thing full unity.
Divided we are so weak against foreign enemies & our own government. Makes us susceptible to many things. Don't get played because of your emotions, try not to be so petty, & most importantly stay positive. Have optimism in your life & love your fellow American.
deolio
12-17-2020, 03:01 PM
America is Yin & Yang and that is what makes us work. This place would suck if it was 100% right or left. The balance of both is key.
This right here.
Divided we are so weak against foreign enemies & our own government.
This too. Division amongst us is what foreign powers and even the people in power here want. It makes us easy to manipulate and makes us weak. Unfortunately, as long as people keep buying in to a two-party system that requires overlooking shitty candidate?s misdeeds I see no way to avoid it.
kingkilburn
12-17-2020, 03:55 PM
The balance is supposed to come from mutual good faith compromise not cyclical domination. You can see right in this thread how well that works out when people piss on your feet and tell you it's raining.
kingkilburn
12-17-2020, 05:25 PM
The issue in american politics comes in two parts
1. Milquetoast Democrats too afraid of what anyone thinks to act on what they say are their values.
2. A Republican Party still visibly obsessed with Dixiecrat politics echoing from power plays about slavery.
Every election cycle swings back and forth with big DNC promises not fulfilled leading to RNC takeover and retribution for perceived wrongdoings from 150 years ago. Fuck both sides of soap opera. We all need unions, we all need healthcare, we all need our liberties protected from those with qualified immunity, and none of us want to see our friends and family blown up in wars that have nothing to do with us... But donors with deep pockets have other ideas and neither party has in their platform an answer for it.
mrmephistopheles
12-17-2020, 05:30 PM
Keep checking.
Logic may not be your strong suit, but you quoting that out of context is not evidence of anything beyond your lack of reasoning skills.
Let me break it down for you Barney-style:
If you post in a thread about how someone's timing needs to be retarded, or even if you've decided your car looks retarded, me quoting
retard
Doesn't imply that you have a problem with mentally challenged people.
Sure, "nigger" is an all-out terrible word. What matters is that it's a word, and pretending it doesn't exist or obfuscating it doesn't change what it is.
If I walked up to a random black dude and said "hey N-word", would it alter the intended meaning?
Stop trying to make drama where there is none.
mr.nismo.
12-17-2020, 06:08 PM
The issue in american politics comes in two parts
1. Milquetoast Democrats too afraid of what anyone thinks to act on what they say are their values.
2. A Republican Party still visibly obsessed with Dixiecrat politics echoing from power plays about slavery.
Every election cycle swings back and forth with big DNC promises not fulfilled leading to RNC takeover and retribution for perceived wrongdoings from 150 years ago. Fuck both sides of soap opera. We all need unions, we all need healthcare, we all need our liberties protected from those with qualified immunity, and none of us want to see our friends and family blown up in wars that have nothing to do with us... But donors with deep pockets have other ideas and neither party has in their platform an answer for it.Your statement on the different sides isnt inviting to have a conversation with you. Can you guess what I'm talking about?
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mr.nismo.
12-17-2020, 06:08 PM
We need to just move on..... I am a conservative no doubt about that, with that said I have some liberal tendency's. Guess you could say fiscally conservative socially liberal. Trump was never my favorite but he was my choice. On Nov 4th I totally accepted Biden as my new president. I really wish more conservatives would do the same. In 2016 the left did the same stuff with Hilary's loss.(Minus the super petty lawsuits) We need to grow up as a whole. I still have faith in our democracy even in these trying times.
We are all Americans & most importantly we need to remember to respect each other. 20 years ago, you could go to your neighbors house and have dinner, you know they have a polar opposite political view than you, but you love them unconditionally because they are your neighbor & you respect them.
America is Yin & Yang and that is what makes us work. This place would suck if it was 100% right or left. The balance of both is key.
I with out a doubt believe there is corruption in our local, state, and federal government. It is most certainly not a one sided thing. The corruption is deep in both parties. We need to work on more bipartisanship and get these individuals out. That is step one.
When 9-11-2001 happened (regardless of your opinions on it) we as a country quickly united. Why? Because as a whole we were attacked. Look how strong we can be, Katrina same thing full unity.
Divided we are so weak against foreign enemies & our own government. Makes us susceptible to many things. Don't get played because of your emotions, try not to be so petty, & most importantly stay positive. Have optimism in your life & love your fellow American.You said it right there. Albeit I believe we have the practically same views, so it's easy to agree lol
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kingkilburn
12-18-2020, 12:02 AM
Your statement on the different sides isnt inviting to have a conversation with you. Can you guess what I'm talking about?
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The only side is American. How do you wish to move forward with that?
mr.nismo.
12-18-2020, 12:21 AM
The only side is American. How do you wish to move forward with that?No, there are political sides. There's nothing wrong with that. There are sides to practically everything. All the way down to the fucking pineapple on pizza people. Again, there's nothing wrong with that. Being American in the political world is understanding that there's going to be disagreements, but being civil about it. Painting one side with a really broad brush closes off communication, and the ability to compromise. Nothing recently has looked like it (from both ends of the spectrum). Even in car forums it's rediculous. I stopped commenting because it's turned into another shit show, and articles to support my arguments were ignored/not addressed. So what's the point? I was trying to show that there's conservative people who do want actual logical debate, but all of you were more focused on getting trolled.
Does that answer your question?
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LEG1T
12-18-2020, 12:50 AM
^^^It’s nice that you are civil and wanting to have an actual logical debate as a conservative.
Your words from a few posts ago, below...
Please explain to me what policies we have that are institutionally racist?
I would love for you to clarify if your position on your statement above believes institutional racism exist or not?
I would also love to know what
[email protected] position is on that same statement..
Please understand I’m not attacking, I’m trying to understand something..
zombiewolf513
12-18-2020, 02:15 AM
^Would you disagree that diversity quotas (preferential treatment based on race and not merit) are institutionalized racism?
Stop trying to make drama where there is none.
You're STILL throwing around the N-word and drawing a false equivalent like my jokes are anywhere near the same. Talk about drama. Just stop dude, they're jokes in a loud noises thread, just like all the Christianity jokes, gay jokes, gay Christian jokes, and PTSD and veteran jokes, and disability jokes. They don't actually bother me, and they shouldn't bother anyone else. Get the fuck over them, its shit talk, its funny, god damn. Sticks and fucking stones.
Even though shit is being slung in every which direction, the only people in here taking anything to heart (and trying to get people banned, rep-bombed, and harassed over it) is the left that sees racism in everything, except apparently actual racism vis-a-vis your N-bombs. Just relax and stop saying the N-word ffs. There's no context in which it's okay to use that ACTUALLY historically dehumanizing word. Especially when you're trying to say that I'm wrong for calling someone an election 'rigger', which is funny. It makes no fucking sense dude, you look like an actual racist finding an excuse to use the N-word, tried to project the word into my mouth, and now you're doubling down on it to poison the well. You've got issues man.
Everyone was moved on, deolio and I were having our conversation about the election, then you came in starting drama. Sit back, relax, and have some fun dude. shit.
Well aren't you just a jackfruit?
See, that word has a real-life meaning, but I'm using it based on my own definition. Does that make me clever?
like a jackboot, but rainbow colored. its also an actual fruit. That's hilarious.
mr.nismo.
12-18-2020, 03:18 AM
^^^It?s nice that you are civil and wanting to have debate as a conservative.
Your words from a few posts ago, below...
Please explain to me what policies we have that are institutionally racist?
I would love for you to clarify if your position on your statement above believes institutional racism exist or not?
I would also love to know what the other conservative poster S13 Boost feels about this your same statement.
Please understand I?m not attacking, I?m trying to understand something..
I don't feel you're attacking at all. I do not believe that there are laws that discriminate against any protected class of citizen (hell, we have states that give rights to undocumented immigrants). There are individuals who fuck that up, and those individuals should be dealt with on that basis, but I do not believe the system as a whole (definitely not perfect) targets specific persons based on protected classes. There were articles posted along after that comment you quoted from me. And I have my rebutal on how it's still a broad "drill down" with more details needed.
// To clarify. I'm conservative when it comes to finances. Socially I'm libertarian. So the conservative part of me why I feel lockdowns are not the answer.
// I also apparently have zero grammar skills [emoji849]
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zombiewolf513
12-18-2020, 03:33 AM
But I meannnn if you actually wanna have a conversation about it, it's worth the time. If your only intent is to gaslight and troll then yeah :rofl:
Such is the nature of zilvia, I suppose :wiggle:
On topic: If the courts wanted to stop it, they would've taken up the cases and formally discredited them. They quite literally pushed the case back into the court of public opinion, to Trump's benefit.
I think they also didn't want to bare any responsibility for the consequences of a decision. Which- I can't really say I blame them considering the roving mobs these days, ready to murder, showing up at peoples homes in the middle of the night. Having the houses take care of it spread-loads the responsibility.
Green Arrow
12-18-2020, 05:36 AM
Everyone gets rep without names attached. If you're saying that you received one with that as the comment, then you're a liar.
Never said i received one with that comment, reach harder.
No
You don't get to make demands.
LOL, as a minority with ZERO representation you?d think your morally elite self would help. If you were a POC like me you?d understand that your behavior is a dog whistle to the left with their fascism and are hell bent on keeping myself and other LATINX down.
Phlip
12-18-2020, 06:39 AM
LOL, as a minority with ZERO representation you?d think your morally elite self would help. If you were a POC like me you?d understand that your behavior is a dog whistle to the left with their fascism and are hell bent on keeping myself and other LATINX down.
You've not offered a single solution that hasn't already been considered.
You don't know me.
People keep throwing that "fasciscm" word around and I am sure now more than ever that they don't know what it means.
Green Arrow
12-18-2020, 06:46 AM
Stop being an rigging sympathizer, and don't act so smug. You love it, the power to impose rules on brown people or people of other beliefs than your own. And get rid of your blackface profile img, it’s offensive.
zombiewolf513
12-18-2020, 06:48 AM
its only 32 seconds:
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Phlip
12-18-2020, 06:54 AM
Stop being an rigging sympathizer
Present proof of said rigging and we got a deal.
And get rid of your blackface profile img
What the fuck are you on about?
I repeat, you don't know me
Green Arrow
12-18-2020, 07:00 AM
Present proof of said rigging and we got a deal.
What the fuck are you on about?
I repeat, you don't know me
To be consistent you should allow post counting along side of rep that has for whatever reason been kept on. This is NOT a hard concept.
And yes I do, I poked around your self grandiose blog. Which is terrible i might add. I would not call that writing. More like a page for facebook status material.
And get rid of your blackface img, its racist and extremely offensive to POC
Phlip
12-18-2020, 07:58 AM
This is the part where I neg rep you and prove you right, isn't it?
I can confidently repeat that you do not know shit about me.
Green Arrow
12-18-2020, 08:10 AM
Phlip you're not seeing the big picture.
Its all fun while you and the elite members get to run the table. Create the rules for now and be subjugated later.
Future240
12-18-2020, 08:45 AM
LOL, as a minority with ZERO representation you?d think your morally elite self would help. If you were a POC like me you?d understand that your behavior is a dog whistle to the left with their fascism and are hell bent on keeping myself and other LATINX down.
Stop being an rigging sympathizer, and don't act so smug. You love it, the power to impose rules on brown people or people of other beliefs than your own. And get rid of your blackface profile img, it?s offensive.
And get rid of your blackface img, its racist and extremely offensive to POC
STOP,STOP . I can't work from laughing so much. This level of dumbass is officially the highest one in the thread.
While you are over here grandstanding doing that "white man holding us now" schtick you clearly fail to realize
Phlip is BLACK. That is not black face. That is his face
https://media1.giphy.com/media/X74dLidP6T8PcsjfbL/200w.webp?cid=ecf05e476cff3834b6818ead51d568a57b06 ef709c3da357&rid=200w.webp
Green Arrow
12-18-2020, 09:18 AM
Whats with the mods wanting to insult POC’s? Cant hide the racism long enough huh? Your party has a long history implying POC’s lack general intelligence.
KA24DESOneThree
12-18-2020, 10:07 AM
Being American is understanding what we have by way of negative rights, and that's about it. We're rarely civil when it comes to political discourse (we have a long, proud tradition of threatening to kill those we disagree with and occasionally killing those we disagree with, and hey, hey... we've even had a civil war!) and we do our damnedest to stay just below surface-level when we discuss corrective actions.
It would be very *gasp* progressive of us to discuss how to pull ourselves out of the doldrums we're in and figure out how the fuck to increase quality of life for all Americans because this ain't it.
Democrats and Republicans are destroying this country. The two-party system has done damn-near irreparable harm and will reach the point of irreparable soon.
By the way, to Phlip's point, fascism is literally defined as, "a political philosophy, movement, or regime (such as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition."
s13 @ fullboost
12-18-2020, 10:15 AM
^^^It?s nice that you are civil and wanting to have an actual logical debate as a conservative.
The way that is said is actually a bit condescending. I am sure you meant nothing by it, but still want to point it out. If the statement was replaced with liberal I am sure many wouldn't like it. No one likes to generalize.
I do not believe in anyway period. My beliefs and views are superior to anyone else's. Nor would I put someone down for theirs.
I would also love to know what
[email protected] position is on that same statement..
Yes I do believe systemic racism is real. Its gotten better in my opinion but still exists today sadly. Prejudices is something I believe the human race will never fully evolve from.
I am originally from Lebanon & my name is Hasan. In the early 2000's to current, I certainly felt the hate against Arabs. It has definitely tapered down in the past ten years.
African Americans & Latinos suffer the most in my opinion in America with this problem. Here is where what I am about to say is going to get very controversial.
Yes the system has certainly done its part over our history. I am a supporter of law enforcement, but I also know that there are many officers nation wide who have stained the thin blue line. Who act differently depending on what race they are dealing with. Assuming you are a criminal because you are a person of color. I have had this discussion with a peace officer & his response was "We act based on statistics, I know who I am more likely to have a physical altercation with so we take extra precautions."
IMO not okay not one bit. Everyone deserves to be treated the same with respect and dignity, unless you show good reason that will not work.
Now I said I was going to get controversial here it is.
The system is one half of the problem, the other half is the community's.
Allow me to give an example. You have a young African American kid who is going to school & doing extremely well. He is well dressed with a exquisite vocabulary. Well his peers start to clown on him. "why you acting white foo" "why are pants up so high ?" "Fuck home work lets go hang"
This right here is a problem. Why do you get picked on for trying to educate your self? Most people will not say it but the communities also need to work on them self's in conjunction with America as whole getting its act together & treating everyone the same. With dignity & respect.
Future240
12-18-2020, 10:16 AM
Whats with the mods wanting to insult POC?s? Cant hide the racism long enough huh? Your party has a long history implying POC?s lack general intelligence.
What's with you wanting to throw around you a minority? Who gives a fuck? Like honestly. I'm black yet you don't see me POCing all over the place. Color me shock, a race obsessed right winger.
Ps. I am an intendent. I vote for both democrats and republicans.
Green Arrow
12-18-2020, 10:18 AM
"........headed by a dictatorial leader( lib mods), severe economic and social regimentation( neg rep) , and forcible suppression of opposition (unable to give rep points to others)."
I REST MY CASE
s13 @ fullboost
12-18-2020, 10:57 AM
"........headed by a dictatorial leader( lib mods), severe economic and social regimentation( neg rep) , and forcible suppression of opposition (unable to give rep points to others)."
I REST MY CASE
Very tasteful signature :facepalm:
kingkilburn
12-18-2020, 11:46 AM
Does that answer your question?
You rather bulldozed through my point to reenforce the problem. We're all Americans and the goal should be providing the best possible outcomes to Americans. No one can claim that's what's been happening in good faith.
People are hitching themselves and their self worth to the success or failure of two private organizations vying for power, and that is fucking stupid. They aren't political sides or social factions. They are usurpers of our shared power and authority in a democracy. All this obstructionism and bellyaching from Congressional Republicans doesn't actually help those married to the identity.
The Democrats are only marginally better here and the silver lining is the younger more progressive members are far more transparent and consistent.
!Zar!
12-18-2020, 11:47 AM
The biggest problem with politics in America is the the need to apply a president which aligns to red or blue (sorry green party is useless).
Metropolitan areas align to blue because they are so densely populated.
Rural areas align to red because they tend to be trade workers, and are spread out.
Two completely different ways of life will yield two completely different thoughts on how life should be led. In San Francisco, nobody is scared of, "Mexicans taking their jobs". Because nobody is.
But in North Dakota, someone can very well be scared of someone stealing their job, because it's a reality.
kingkilburn
12-18-2020, 11:48 AM
To be 100% clear here, when I say Democrats or Republicans I'm talking about elected and appointed people and not voters.
!Zar!
12-18-2020, 11:55 AM
The biggest problem with politics in America is the the need to apply a president which aligns to red or blue (sorry green party is useless).
Metropolitan areas align to blue because they are so densely populated.
Rural areas align to red because they tend to be trade workers, and are spread out.
Two completely different ways of life will yield two completely different thoughts on how life should be led. In San Francisco, nobody is scared of, "Mexicans taking their jobs". Because nobody is.
But in North Dakota, someone can very well be scared of someone stealing their job, because it's a reality.
kingkilburn
12-18-2020, 12:05 PM
Unionized labor used to be the backbone of the Democratic Party. The party and labor has never recovered from the slow death of unions.
!Zar!
12-18-2020, 02:28 PM
Shoutout to zilvia for breaking and posting my comment twice.
With that said, welcome to North Korea, Mr. Arrow. Don't try to leave us.
mrmephistopheles
12-18-2020, 03:43 PM
"........headed by a dictatorial leader( lib mods), severe economic and social regimentation( neg rep) , and forcible suppression of opposition (unable to give rep points to others)."
I REST MY CASE
HE RESTS HIS CASE EVERYBODY!
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Dictators don't allow dissent, and brutally punish those who would speak against them. I don't give a fuck what your opinion is or how it differs from mine, so long as you can argue it in a reasonable and respectful manner. I despise echo chambers and the bullshit that bubbles up from them and see such environments as antithetical to progress. IF this place was as you describe, you'd just be permabanned from the moment you posted a dissenting opinion.
This just in - the stewards of the Oppression Olympics have disqualified you based on that nonsense comment.
severe economic and social regimentation( neg rep) , and forcible suppression of opposition (unable to give rep points to others)."
Get mad at whomever came up with that plugin (assuming it's not a part of vBulletin). All it ever was intended for was community policing. Valued members of the community get recognized, and trolls get called out. Economics have exactly fuckall to do with that system too, but nice try pard.
Also, it's not like it's an organized thing. There's no rep brigading subreddit for leftists, liberals, commies, libertarians, socialists, republicans, alt-right, qanon, etc. If you want to spin conspiracy theories, start an new LOUD NOISES thread.
Unionized labor used to be the backbone of the Democratic Party. The party and labor has never recovered from the slow death of unions.
Agreed. My union is almost completely toothless. We don't even have the ability to strike (without jumping through so many hoops to please both the government and the company).
Phlip
12-18-2020, 04:03 PM
This just in - the stewards of the Oppression Olympics have disqualified you based on that nonsense comment.
Have the stewards yet made a decision on a "blackface" image of people that happens to look just like said person looks in real life? Or, as we call it here in my guilded trap house here in the hood, "face."
mrmephistopheles
12-18-2020, 04:47 PM
Have the stewards yet made a decision on a "blackface" image of people that happens to look just like said person looks in real life? Or, as we call it here in my guilded trap house here in the hood, "face."
They said that those who may possibly be offended have ALL say in whether or not they actually are, nullifying previous entrants' efforts in this field.
Thanks for getting me in touch with them btw.
KA24DESOneThree
12-18-2020, 04:49 PM
I like to think that Green Arrow is the Cyberpunk 2077 release version of Corbic.
Phlip
12-18-2020, 05:22 PM
I like to think that Green Arrow is the Cyberpunk 2077 release version of Corbic.
Is that a slick suggestion that the powers that be should put him out of our collective misery until he has his shit together?
mrmephistopheles
12-18-2020, 05:47 PM
Is that a slick suggestion that the powers that be should put him out of our collective misery until he has his shit together?
Saw an article earlier saying that Sony's decision to remove the game/refund players was unprecedented and a huge insult. I couldn't help but think 'is this your first day on the internet?'.
Also, I have more faith in CDPR getting CP2077's shit together.
LEG1T
12-18-2020, 06:40 PM
The way that is said is actually a bit condescending. I am sure you meant nothing by it, but still want to point it out. If the statement was replaced with liberal I am sure many wouldn't like it. No one likes to generalize.
I do not believe in anyway period. My beliefs and views are superior to anyone else's. Nor would I put someone down for theirs.
Yes I do believe systemic racism is real. Its gotten better in my opinion but still exists today sadly. Prejudices is something I believe the human race will never fully evolve from.
I am originally from Lebanon & my name is Hasan. In the early 2000's to current, I certainly felt the hate against Arabs. It has definitely tapered down in the past ten years.
African Americans & Latinos suffer the most in my opinion in America with this problem. Here is where what I am about to say is going to get very controversial.
Yes the system has certainly done its part over our history. I am a supporter of law enforcement, but I also know that there are many officers nation wide who have stained the thin blue line. Who act differently depending on what race they are dealing with. Assuming you are a criminal because you are a person of color. I have had this discussion with a peace officer & his response was "We act based on statistics, I know who I am more likely to have a physical altercation with so we take extra precautions."
IMO not okay not one bit. Everyone deserves to be treated the same with respect and dignity, unless you show good reason that will not work.
Now I said I was going to get controversial here it is.
The system is one half of the problem, the other half is the community's.
Allow me to give an example. You have a young African American kid who is going to school & doing extremely well. He is well dressed with a exquisite vocabulary. Well his peers start to clown on him. "why you acting white foo" "why are pants up so high ?" "Fuck home work lets go hang"
This right here is a problem. Why do you get picked on for trying to educate your self? Most people will not say it but the communities also need to work on them self's in conjunction with America as whole getting its act together & treating everyone the same. With dignity & respect.
I need to apologize. I read my comment back and it certainly does come off in a way that was distasteful, Sorry for that.
Thanks for your answer man. I really just wanted to see if it is still possible to find common ground.
SimpleS14
12-18-2020, 07:18 PM
https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/buzqil0eqj8xtmjxlgpw.jpg
/ thread ?
!Zar!
12-18-2020, 08:01 PM
Phlip is BLACK. That is not black face. That is his face
Blacks are in black face from the moment they are born.
Second leave it, you're shot in the back.
mr.nismo.
12-18-2020, 08:33 PM
To be 100% clear here, when I say Democrats or Republicans I'm talking about elected and appointed people and not voters.Ahh, that's where the miscommunication is. Your original statement makes more sense now.
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mr.nismo.
12-18-2020, 08:36 PM
You rather bulldozed through my point to reenforce the problem. We're all Americans and the goal should be providing the best possible outcomes to Americans. No one can claim that's what's been happening in good faith.
People are hitching themselves and their self worth to the success or failure of two private organizations vying for power, and that is fucking stupid. They aren't political sides or social factions. They are usurpers of our shared power and authority in a democracy. All this obstructionism and bellyaching from Congressional Republicans doesn't actually help those married to the identity.
The Democrats are only marginally better here and the silver lining is the younger more progressive members are far more transparent and consistent.The younger, more consistent progressives aren't the pres and vp elect. I know what id get from them.
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Phlip
12-19-2020, 06:48 PM
This has been the most boring week of the election season.
McConnell goes as far as to say it is over on the heels of the Electoral College vote, no substantial tantrums in courts across the nation, me burning down with rage over an avatar I made on the Funko website months ago that happens to look like me. I have been watching Burn Notice for the last few days.
Fuck... I need some new drama in my life!
ixfxi
12-19-2020, 07:47 PM
This has been the most boring week of the election season. I need some new drama in my life!
call up feng feng... she'll spice things up for you real proper
i heard her fuck style is buck wild
mrmephistopheles
12-19-2020, 07:50 PM
call up feng feng... she'll spice things up for you real proper
i heard her fuck style is buck wild
Hey butt-head. How are ya?
rvns14
12-19-2020, 08:15 PM
You said it right there. Albeit I believe we have the practically same views, so it's easy to agree lol
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Not one bit of the republican platform today is about societal liberalism or fiscal conservativism. Fiscal conservatism as pushed by the Reagan administration was, as Lee Atwater described it, about damaging minorities. The republican party of today is the chickens coming home to roost.
rvns14
12-19-2020, 08:50 PM
The way that is said is actually a bit condescending. I am sure you meant nothing by it, but still want to point it out. If the statement was replaced with liberal I am sure many wouldn't like it. No one likes to generalize.
I do not believe in anyway period. My beliefs and views are superior to anyone else's. Nor would I put someone down for theirs.
Yes I do believe systemic racism is real. Its gotten better in my opinion but still exists today sadly. Prejudices is something I believe the human race will never fully evolve from.
I am originally from Lebanon & my name is Hasan. In the early 2000's to current, I certainly felt the hate against Arabs. It has definitely tapered down in the past ten years.
African Americans & Latinos suffer the most in my opinion in America with this problem. Here is where what I am about to say is going to get very controversial.
Yes the system has certainly done its part over our history. I am a supporter of law enforcement, but I also know that there are many officers nation wide who have stained the thin blue line. Who act differently depending on what race they are dealing with. Assuming you are a criminal because you are a person of color. I have had this discussion with a peace officer & his response was "We act based on statistics, I know who I am more likely to have a physical altercation with so we take extra precautions."
IMO not okay not one bit. Everyone deserves to be treated the same with respect and dignity, unless you show good reason that will not work.
Now I said I was going to get controversial here it is.
The system is one half of the problem, the other half is the community's.
Allow me to give an example. You have a young African American kid who is going to school & doing extremely well. He is well dressed with a exquisite vocabulary. Well his peers start to clown on him. "why you acting white foo" "why are pants up so high ?" "Fuck home work lets go hang"
This right here is a problem. Why do you get picked on for trying to educate your self? Most people will not say it but the communities also need to work on them self's in conjunction with America as whole getting its act together & treating everyone the same. With dignity & respect.
African Americans, have for decades been left out of access to financial services. With homeownership, the single most important key to cross generational wealth, AAs have been denied and underserved. Denied access to GI loans. Redlined. Concentrated into poor, rental heavy communities. The president met his philosophical mentor, Ray Cohn defending himself from a racial discrimination lawsuit. When there are no doctors, lawyers, bankers in your community, when no one owns property, how would you impart that kind of attitude into people. Anytime there is a recession, a pandemic, or the local community just feels like it, AAs are at the losing end of having property (Tulsa '21, Rosewood '23, Treme (New Orleans '68), St. Louis demolishing AA neighborhoods for highways) destroyed. These are government sanctioned actions against the pursuit of happiness. Today, like always, AA culture is about making something from nothing so I understand any one who doesn't trust police and anyone who doesn't value a mortgage. Today, if you are AA you still can get loans from banks at worst rates then other races.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mortgage-discrimination-black-and-latino-paying-millions-more-in-interest-study-shows/
https://www.cnbc.com/2020/08/19/lenders-deny-mortgages-for-blacks-at-a-rate-80percent-higher-than-whites.html
https://www.foxbusiness.com/lifestyle/black-homeowners-paying-13464-more-mortgages
But sure, kids in high school are the problem.
kingkilburn
12-19-2020, 11:04 PM
Yeah. That was bad enough I didn't even want to reply. In 2020 no one has the excuse of not knowing about all that and more that minorities have dealt with.
In other news
Flynn wants Trump to declare martial law and literally carry out a coup d'etat.
Giuliani is trying to get Trump to appoint Sidney Powell as special counsel to investigate election fraud.
Trump "thinks" the Russian hack into federal networks via tampering with Solar Winds hardware is a hoax.
kingkilburn
12-19-2020, 11:08 PM
Luckily General Milley is a better soldier than Flynn.
Green Arrow
12-19-2020, 11:27 PM
Luckily General Milley is a better soldier than Flynn.
Youre a fool
kingkilburn
12-19-2020, 11:30 PM
You think Flynn is a better soldier than the sitting chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? lol
Phlip
12-20-2020, 05:15 AM
You think Flynn is a better soldier than the sitting chairman of the joint chiefs of staff? lol
Easy there, he will accuse you of discriminating against him. I am expecting to hear from his lawyer any day here.
Green Arrow
12-20-2020, 07:08 AM
Easy there, he will accuse you of discriminating against him. I am expecting to hear from his lawyer any day here.
Shut up neck beard, i dont wanna hear a peep from you two. This is a thread for men!
Phlip
12-20-2020, 08:13 AM
Shut up neck beard, i dont wanna hear a peep from you two. This is a thread for men!
No one who has met me in my adult life (and several in this very thread over the past 18+ years have) could accurately refer to me as "neck beard," physically, literally or even figuratively.
I do, however, enjoy how upset you are despite how much you will assuredly expend a ton of energy claiming to not care.
Feel free to ban me if you're so over me commenting in this thread.
Valiant effort in your attempt to get me to neg rep you and prove how discriminated against you've been here... I mean, I will eventually do it, but you're still wrong.
Green Arrow
12-20-2020, 08:30 AM
Nah not offended, and I do get quite a bit of amusement watching you and Kyle tug each other. The funniest part is this isnt the only venue for you two to discuss dissenting members. So I guess the game is who cares less?
And yes dawg, you got a weird beard.
G.ARROW OUT!
kingkilburn
12-20-2020, 10:18 AM
This is a thread for men!
You better leave then.
zombiewolf513
12-20-2020, 11:35 AM
Tiny red chiclet collectors rise up :D
January 6.
DC.
Be there.
It's gonna be wild.
https://i.ibb.co/M5CRtRs/tinyredchicletsunite-USA.png
kingkilburn
12-20-2020, 02:21 PM
Definitely nothing weird about that post.
mrmephistopheles
12-20-2020, 03:44 PM
Definitely nothing weird about that post.
Hey, there's a ton of people suffering right now. Some group therapy is healthy tbh, and I'm genuinely proud of them for being able to publicly show the grief of their loss.
kingkilburn
12-20-2020, 06:32 PM
QxdC2H2Nndg
Future240
12-21-2020, 07:50 AM
This is just sad at this point.
https://www.newsweek.com/trump-encourages-wild-protests-dc-date-electoral-college-vote-count-1556153
I'm guessing all these republicans forgot about the "she can still win" memes and jokes they were making when Hillary loss.
KA24DESOneThree
12-21-2020, 08:17 AM
Remember, folks, this is the Leader of the Free World*.
I'm looking forward to it because Zombie Best Describes My Faculties, Green Lantern Wonder Twin Powers Activate, and Corbic's Been Quietly Turning A Mustang into Hillbilly Mad Max's Pursuit Special will be in DC. I've given them racehorse names because they're the thoroughbred argumentators of this hurr thread.
January 6: The Day that Nothing Fucking Happens Except A Bunch of Fat (Average) Children March On Washington.
* "Leader of the Free World" is a registered trademark of the USA Corporation. Any unauthorized usage will result in secret surveillance and night raids. Remember, folks, if you've got nothing to hide, you shouldn't be afraid of a little surveillance.
brndck
12-21-2020, 08:55 AM
* "Leader of the Free World" is a registered trademark of the USA Corporation. Any unauthorized usage will result in secret surveillance and night raids. Remember, folks, if you've got nothing to hide, you shouldn't be afraid of a little surveillance.
now you sound like you're taking a page out of THIS guys book!!!
https://c2.thejournal.ie/media/2015/04/campaign-the-others-310x415.jpg
zombiewolf513
12-21-2020, 09:26 AM
I'm guessing all these republicans forgot about the "she can still win" memes and jokes they were making when Hillary loss.
Judging by the lefts' reactions, 'Its afraid' still applies in current year.
https://i.imgur.com/8gDZo7n.jpg
She was a NY elector, so in a way, she'll lose again Jan 6.
Phlip
12-21-2020, 09:52 AM
Can William Barr be fired again, or will be be executed on the capitol steps?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-trump-special-counsel-voter-fraud-hunter-biden/2020/12/21/4d85f060-439c-11eb-b0e4-0f182923a025_story.html
zombiewolf513
12-21-2020, 10:01 AM
I'm sure some lamestream media outlet will scoop him up as an 'anonymous inside source familiar with the subjects'
Future240
12-21-2020, 10:24 AM
Can William Barr be fired again, or will be be executed on the capitol steps?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/barr-trump-special-counsel-voter-fraud-hunter-biden/2020/12/21/4d85f060-439c-11eb-b0e4-0f182923a025_story.html
Definitely executed. How dare he go against King Trump. Tis treason!!!
Barr said that while he was ?sure there was fraud in this election,? he had not seen evidence that it was so ?systemic or broad-based? that it would change the result.
RalliartRsX
12-21-2020, 10:32 AM
I wonder what happens when Jan 6th rolls around, and things do not go the way of zombie??
Shifted goal posts again? Will zombie attend trump's online inauguration via FB live??
zombiewolf513
12-21-2020, 10:50 AM
Why are you so obsessed with me? lol :keke:
RalliartRsX
12-21-2020, 10:59 AM
Because you are only one here harping on Jan 6th as the end all be all and posting HRC pics.........maybe??
zombiewolf513
12-21-2020, 11:25 AM
... Shifted goal posts again?
... end all be all
Pick one. :stupid:
You could try talking about the topic, but that has been like watching a monkey fuck a football.
RalliartRsX
12-21-2020, 11:27 AM
You forgot to also include you attending trump virtual inauguration since you seem to be posting just random quotes??
It would probably make a little more sense you kept it even more random and unrelated.......like pulling one of my for sale posts and posting it here :D
zombiewolf513
12-21-2020, 11:31 AM
You forgot to also include you attending trump virtual inauguration
This rigger is mad af. lol. Ill be attending in person for that, too.
RalliartRsX
12-21-2020, 12:27 PM
I actually urge you to attend IN person. And make sure to NOT wear a mask. It is against all things heir trump to wear one.
All hail.....
RalliartRsX
12-21-2020, 12:48 PM
Lou Dobbs Airs Segment Refuting Election Fraud Claims — Including His Own — In Wake Of Legal Threat
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lou-dobbs-airs-segment-refuting-212726652.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr
Newsmax did the same
Maria from Fox did the same
I is so confused......
kingkilburn
12-21-2020, 01:23 PM
rigger
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Phlip
12-21-2020, 02:14 PM
Lou Dobbs Airs Segment Refuting Election Fraud Claims ? Including His Own ? In Wake Of Legal Threat
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/lou-dobbs-airs-segment-refuting-212726652.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=tw&tsrc=twtr
Newsmax did the same
Maria from Fox did the same
I is so confused......
Don't worry, OAN will never leave him or forsake him
zombiewolf513
12-21-2020, 02:15 PM
wahhhh words :cry:
Oh look, its this post again.
Do tell, meme recycler.
https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/124/933/1304376955947.png
KA24DESOneThree
12-21-2020, 02:42 PM
now you sound like you're taking a page out of THIS guys book!!!
I identify more and more as someone who would rather take the piss out of government than participate in the farce.
kingkilburn
12-21-2020, 02:43 PM
Yeah, words. They communicate meaning, except when you call people [who annoy you] "riggers". Shit makes zero sense.
Unless you mean something other than the accepted definition of the word.
dizzariot
12-21-2020, 04:42 PM
I've been backing certain horses in here and I am not disappointed. God, I hate some of you...but I thank Zilvia for these posts.
Phlip
12-22-2020, 06:03 AM
There was an arrest made in Delaware County Pennsylvania in a voter fraud case.
Man registered his dead mother and mother in law to vote, then voted absentee in his mother's name.
https://www.fox29.com/news/pennsylvania-man-accused-of-casting-dead-mothers-ballot
brndck
12-22-2020, 08:28 AM
I identify more and more as someone who would rather take the piss out of government than participate in the farce.
as someone who has legit voted for V. Supreme in the past (2016, not 2020), I thoroughly endorse some piss taking.
Yeah, words. They communicate meaning, except when you call people [who annoy you] "riggers". Shit makes zero sense.
Unless you mean something other than the accepted definition of the word.
yeah, unless he has reason to believe that anyone in this thread participated in election fraud, the use of that term seems to be misaligned with its actual meaning.
There was an arrest made in Delaware County Pennsylvania in a voter fraud case.
Man registered his dead mother and mother in law to vote, then voted absentee in his mother's name.
https://www.fox29.com/news/pennsylvania-man-accused-of-casting-dead-mothers-ballot
welp, better just give trump the election then. tell biden to git. :picardfp:
Phlip
12-22-2020, 08:47 AM
welp, better just give trump the election then. tell biden to git. :picardfp:
Click the link and see who the guy cast the vote for and why.
brndck
12-22-2020, 01:38 PM
Click the link and see who the guy cast the vote for and why.
I read it. so far this, and every other instance of "election fraud" that I've seen, has been people voting for trump or TRYING to vote for trump.
I can still imagine him trying to use this as reason to ditch the election results
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/florida-attorney-under-investigation-registering-vote-georgia-encouraging-others-do-same/L6LTC2AHBFDMXPOTZKVMO5ESJQ/
deolio
12-22-2020, 02:12 PM
I can still imagine him trying to use this as reason to ditch the election results
Lol what a twist that would be!
?Throw out the results! Too many Republicans tried to commit voter fraud!? -Trump looking for any way to stay in power
brndck
12-22-2020, 03:07 PM
Lol what a twist that would be!
?Throw out the results! Too many Republicans tried to commit voter fraud!? -Trump looking for any way to stay in power
its not even a twist at this point.
Reps: THERES TOO MUCH VOTER FRAUD, TRUMP MUST STAY IN OFFICE
News: Republicans caught perpetuating voter fraud
Reps: SEE??? WE TOLD YOU!!! MAGA 42069 BITCH.
Phlip
12-22-2020, 03:31 PM
I read it. so far this, and every other instance of "election fraud" that I've seen, has been people voting for trump or TRYING to vote for trump.
I can still imagine him trying to use this as reason to ditch the election results
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/florida-attorney-under-investigation-registering-vote-georgia-encouraging-others-do-same/L6LTC2AHBFDMXPOTZKVMO5ESJQ/
I don't know I could wrap my head around the fraud being verified and resulting in arrests being all being FOR the incumbent who still failed to win and somehow THAT being reason to undo the loss. In this bizarro world, however, I would not be surprised.
I was GOING to make a joke about registering to vote in GA at my uncle's place in Conyers in order to vote in this runoff.
The joke wasn't even worth it.
brndck
12-22-2020, 04:06 PM
I don't know I could wrap my head around the fraud being verified and resulting in arrests being all being FOR the incumbent who still failed to win and somehow THAT being reason to undo the loss. In this bizarro world, however, I would not be surprised.
.
i'm not suggesting its a REASONABLE claim to make, but neither are the any of the claims Zombie is making, and still he makes them anyways.
:bowrofl::bowrofl::bowrofl:
zombiewolf513
12-22-2020, 04:23 PM
...any of the claims Zombie is making...
If only you could rationalize an actual argument against them.
>in b4 'well gersh they gotta be rational to begin with' no u :fart:
brndck
12-22-2020, 04:53 PM
Such is the nature of zilvia, I suppose :wiggle:
On topic: If the courts wanted to stop it, they would've taken up the cases and formally discredited them. They quite literally pushed the case back into the court of public opinion, to Trump's benefit.
I think they also didn't want to bare any responsibility for the consequences of a decision. Which- I can't really say I blame them considering the roving mobs these days, ready to murder, showing up at peoples homes in the middle of the night. Having the houses take care of it spread-loads the responsibility.
perfect example. certain courts have certain jurisdictions. if you bring a case to a specific court and its not their jurisdiction, guess what? they don't hear it. they tell you to take your case to the proper court.
in THIS instance, the supreme court ruled that the case brought before them had zero fucking legitimacy, and there was no REASON to hear the case. They DID discredit it. Completely. Full Stop.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/11/supreme-court-rejects-texas-led-effort-to-overturn-bidens-victory-444638
numbskulls like you take this as "ooooooh must be deep state, the supreme court is in on it", as well as "them antifas out here tryna kill all us good American folk" (lets not pay any attention to instances like this where right wing agitators were ACTUALLY plotting to kidnap an elected official https://www.tmj4.com/news/local-news/wisconsin-man-charged-in-attempt-to-kidnap-michigan-governor-released-on-10k-bail )
zombiewolf513
12-22-2020, 05:55 PM
Here we goooo... another dummy thinks courts not hearing a case is the same thing as discrediting the entire case. :eyeroll: Can't believe you guys actually think that rejecting a case is the same as ruling on one.
They didn't kick it out because it 'doesn't have legitimacy' or 'because dey be lookin at duh factz n sheeeeit', they kicked it out because it didn't 'have standing'. Which means they don't recognize Texas as the damaged party in the lawsuit.
I suspect its an excuse, because they don't want a real decision to have their names tied to it in the history books, and don't want the BLM riots (ironically filled with inner city shitheads and oblivious rich kids) showing up at their houses, amongst giving the left more reason to pack the court. But apparently the left thinks opinions are declarations of unequivocal fact, too, so I can't really expect you to understand.
Your argument still doesn't even touch my point that if the lefty judges wanted to stop Jan 6 objections, they would've proven Trump wrong IN court (not rejecting the suit, moron) and made him look like a fool. Instead, they've effectively shifted the ball back into the court of Trump's supporters in both houses.
So now. Want to actually try arguing my point? You'll probably just keep assuming shit.
You gonna start crying about how MAGA hats are red hoods now, too? Don't get Rittenhouse'd out there.
deolio
12-22-2020, 10:06 PM
Instead, they've effectively shifted the ball back into the court of Trump's supporters in both houses.
With McConnell sending that email last week about not objecting on the 6th, do you think anyone is going to try it? Sounds like career suicide unless they've got a lot of support within the party, which it doesn't look like there is.
Future240
12-22-2020, 10:30 PM
At this point with any dissent with the maga gang is almost career suicide.
Look how they turned on fox news and mitch.
zombiewolf513
12-22-2020, 10:50 PM
^^^
This. Very much this.
kingkilburn
12-22-2020, 10:53 PM
Here we goooo... another dummy thinks courts not hearing a case is the same thing as discrediting the entire case.
Everything the courts do is a statement or action. Everything.
Choosing not to hear a petition is always an action. Reconfirming the role of federal courts in general on federal election matters is an action. A hyper conservative SCOTUS telling extremely conservative state AGs to stop trying to play politics in their court is absolutely an action.
The courts are more than the pedantry of their rulings. SCOTUS could have easily heard the case and radically changed how federal elections work, and there's nothing anyone could have done to stop it. But they didn't. They didn't so hard they fucking dunked on the petitioning parties. Three lifetime appointments and a big eat a dick from all three.
It's impossible to overstate how big a deal that was.
ixfxi
12-22-2020, 10:59 PM
in THIS instance, the supreme court ruled that the case brought before them had zero fucking legitimacy, and there was no REASON to hear the case. They DID discredit it. Completely. Full Stop.
you dumbfuck, the case was dismissed for a procedural reason, not because the case had no validity.
all you idiots have to do is listen to the hearings and testimony from the poll watchers and you can see that a lot of people were mistreated. foreigners, moms, retirees, grandparents, didnt matter... if you were a republican poll watcher trying to do your job, they looked for reasons to bully and get you out. kinda like anyone who calls bullshit on the left, you're immediately labeled as a racist or some other BS
i swear its as if half of society has forgotten what its like to get an ass whoopin. this new generation of college educated fruitcakes just doesnt know how to put in work to make a living. its all about what society owes you. it would be nice if we could turn back the clock a bit, remind people what real values are all about. maybe a war w/ mandatory draft would thin the herd of stupidity. afterall, its only human nature...
deolio
12-22-2020, 11:03 PM
i swear its as if half of society has forgotten what its like to get an ass whoopin. this new generation of college educated fruitcakes just doesnt know how to put in work to make a living. its all about what society owes you. it would be nice if we could turn back the clock a bit, remind people what real values are all about. maybe a war w/ mandatory draft would thin the herd of stupidity. afterall, its only human nature...
Lol you really are 78 huh?
zombiewolf513
12-22-2020, 11:12 PM
It's impossible to overstate how big a deal that was.
...because it played right into Trump's hand.
maybe a war w/ mandatory draft would thin the herd of stupidity. afterall, its only human nature...
Send in the mask-nazis. They know the true meaning of selfless service.
Hell, Biden's already threatening retaliation on mystery countries for the cyberattack. It's not out of the realm of possibility.
I can see it in the history books already:
'The uncommon cold was a common virtue signal.'
deolio
12-23-2020, 12:01 AM
I can see it in the history books already:
'The uncommon cold was a common virtue signal.'
You forgot about the part where it says
?Caucasian Donald Trump supporters were generally despised and discriminated against on a scale the likes of which had never been seen before - and yet not a single one of them ever whined about it.?
mr.nismo.
12-23-2020, 02:46 AM
i swear its as if half of society has forgotten what its like to get an ass whoopin. this new generation of college educated fruitcakes just doesnt know how to put in work to make a living. its all about what society owes you. it would be nice if we could turn back the clock a bit, remind people what real values are all about. maybe a war w/ mandatory draft would thin the herd of stupidity. afterall, its only human nature...
Lol you really are 78 huh?
Nah, I agree with his sentiment about you getting what you work for, not handouts from society.
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RalliartRsX
12-23-2020, 02:57 AM
Its amazing how everyone above is ignoring the almost 60 cases trump lost on the way to SCOTUS
In just about every single one of those cases there was zero evidence
Case in point
Free, fair elections are the lifeblood of our democracy. Charges of unfairness are serious. But calling an election unfair does not make it so," wrote Stephanos Bibas on behalf of a three-judge panel.
"Charges require specific allegations and then proof. We have neither here," wrote Bibas, who was nominated by Trump.
And fuck the pole workers feelings because that's not how it works
Its so funny seeing ixfx talk about how the new generation is a bunch of bitches but in the same breath is also bitchihg about poll workers bitching because thier whiny asses have no clue how election works and are bitching on their willfully ignorance
Future240
12-23-2020, 08:03 AM
The talk of the new generation being soft, spoiled etc. has been going on literally thousands of years.
https://www.historyhustle.com/2500-years-of-people-complaining-about-the-younger-generation/
I always roll my eyes at it.
In 40 years we'll will be saying the same thing.
kingkilburn
12-23-2020, 09:16 AM
How do you look at all the concrete data on productivity and inflation blasting off into space while wages stagnate and tell people they need to work harder?
Fuck you personally. Fuck your product. Fuck your business. I'm fucking tired of hearing this bullshit. It's proof that you forgot what an assbeating feels like.
KA24DESOneThree
12-23-2020, 10:40 AM
it would be nice if we could turn back the clock a bit, remind people what real values are all about. maybe a war w/ mandatory draft would thin the herd of stupidity. afterall, its only human nature...
The mere fact that you float this idea, even flippantly, shows that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about regarding morals or ethics or hard work. War has no recycling value. War takes the product of hard work (taxes) away from the people, weaponizes it, and uses it to devalue countries while lining the pockets of the ruling class.
The fuck are you even on about?
zombiewolf513
12-23-2020, 10:51 AM
Fuck you personally. Fuck your product. Fuck your business. I'm fucking tired of hearing this bullshit. It's proof that you forgot what an assbeating feels like.
Woah woah woah... what's wrong with bootstrapping a black Santa decoration business? Was it cultural appropriation?! SOMEONE CALL THE CULTURAL APPROPRATION POLICE SPECIAL WAH FORCE WEEWOO WEEWOO
deolio
12-23-2020, 11:04 AM
Nah, I agree with his sentiment about you getting what you work for, not handouts from society.
This \/
The talk of the new generation being soft, spoiled etc. has been going on literally thousands of years.
It's canned bullshit the older generation sells to themselves to make them feel superior despite the younger generation's vast advancement in all avenues. It's denial and it's Trump's strongest talking point. mAkE aMeRiCa gR8 aGaiN :cry:
zombiewolf513
12-23-2020, 12:21 PM
I suppose you guys also think that the people of today are in any way smarter than those of the past, because we have 'smart phones' :loco:
kingkilburn
12-23-2020, 12:35 PM
Brain volume hasn't changed much from the earliest known remains of modern humans to now. There is no reason to assume our cognitive ability has changed much over tens of thousands of years. We simply have access to more information on a far wider scale now. We're definitely more informed but not smarter.
zombiewolf513
12-23-2020, 12:53 PM
What happened to all of my arguments being disinformation?
Future240
12-23-2020, 01:06 PM
I suppose you guys also think that the people of today are in any way smarter than those of the past, because we have 'smart phones' :loco:
No more because IQ's have risen over the years.
https://www.apa.org/monitor/2013/03/smarter
But if you mean: Is our ability to attack a wider range of conceptual problems improved? Then yes, we have gained in intelligence. The average person can do creative work today that they couldn't do in 1900
kingkilburn
12-23-2020, 01:10 PM
What happened to all of my arguments being disinformation?
Your sources are disinformation. Your arguments are dumb.
brndck
12-23-2020, 01:31 PM
Here we goooo... another dummy thinks courts not hearing a case is the same thing as discrediting the entire case. :eyeroll: Can't believe you guys actually think that rejecting a case is the same as ruling on one.
They didn't kick it out because it 'doesn't have legitimacy' or 'because dey be lookin at duh factz n sheeeeit', they kicked it out because it didn't 'have standing'. Which means they don't recognize Texas as the damaged party in the lawsuit.
I suspect its an excuse, because they don't want a real decision to have their names tied to it in the history books, and don't want the BLM riots (ironically filled with inner city shitheads and oblivious rich kids) showing up at their houses, amongst giving the left more reason to pack the court. But apparently the left thinks opinions are declarations of unequivocal fact, too, so I can't really expect you to understand.
Your argument still doesn't even touch my point that if the lefty judges wanted to stop Jan 6 objections, they would've proven Trump wrong IN court (not rejecting the suit, moron) and made him look like a fool. Instead, they've effectively shifted the ball back into the court of Trump's supporters in both houses.
So now. Want to actually try arguing my point? You'll probably just keep assuming shit.
You gonna start crying about how MAGA hats are red hoods now, too? Don't get Rittenhouse'd out there.
60 failed lawsuits is more than enough to make him (and you) look like a fool
oh wait, i'm sure its all just deep state, right?
?Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections,? the court wrote in its unsigned order.
No justice indicated any endorsement of Texas' arguments. Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas issued a statement saying they would have allowed Texas? to file its case under a rarely-used procedure for interstate disputes, but they said ?would not grant other relief.?
if you wanna keep blowing hot air at the difference between "doesn't have legitimacy" vs "doesn't have standing", be my guest. you're welcome to rearrange the deck chairs on the titanic all you like.
Rittenhoused? Is that new maga slang? Please enlighten me.
brndck
12-23-2020, 01:44 PM
you dumbfuck, the case was dismissed for a procedural reason, not because the case had no validity.
all you idiots have to do is listen to the hearings and testimony from the poll watchers and you can see that a lot of people were mistreated. foreigners, moms, retirees, grandparents, didnt matter... if you were a republican poll watcher trying to do your job, they looked for reasons to bully and get you out. kinda like anyone who calls bullshit on the left, you're immediately labeled as a racist or some other BS
i swear its as if half of society has forgotten what its like to get an ass whoopin. this new generation of college educated fruitcakes just doesnt know how to put in work to make a living. its all about what society owes you. it would be nice if we could turn back the clock a bit, remind people what real values are all about. maybe a war w/ mandatory draft would thin the herd of stupidity. afterall, its only human nature...
Procedural reason? Yeah, texas has no business in the affairs of other states. The suit has no validity. Therefore, it gets the boot, along with 60 (at last count) other bogus suits. oH iT mUsT bE tHe dEeP sTaTe.
?Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections,? the court wrote in its unsigned order.
No justice indicated any endorsement of Texas' arguments. Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas issued a statement saying they would have allowed Texas? to file its case under a rarely-used procedure for interstate disputes, but they said ?would not grant other relief.?
anyone abusing a poll worker is fucked up. left, right, or otherwise.
didn't realize we had changed conversations. that whole "if you criticize the left you must be a racist" bit is so tired. its more like "if you say racist shit, you get called out for it and held accountable". Sorry you don't get free passes anymore.
when was the last time you got an ass whooping? sounds like you speak boomer pretty fluently. "the new generation doesn't work and just wants everything free"
ummmmmm actual statistics and studies show that we work more and get less, hour for dollar. . . . so. . .
from 2016
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/economy/reports/2016/03/03/131627/when-i-was-your-age/
from 2018
https://www.bankrate.com/personal-finance/millennials-earning/
from 2019
https://www.itsuptous.org/blog/millenials-income-do-millennials-earn-less-previous-generations
from 2020 (yes, covid has thrown a massive wrench in the works)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2020/05/27/millennial-recession-covid/
also from 2020
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2020/04/millennials-are-new-lost-generation/609832/
https://www.yahoo.com/news/really-had-best-baby-boomers-090000268.html
but oh, i'm sure we just need to return to "turn back the clock a bit, remind people what real values are all about. maybe a war w/ mandatory draft would thin the herd of stupidity. afterall, its only human nature..."
"real values"? like entry level jobs ACTUALLY being enough to live on, buy a house, have a retirement fund, raise a family, on ONE salary? Sure! Bring that one back asap plz!
Pay for college with JUST a part time job? Bring that one back too!!!
or were there other values you were talking about?
zombiewolf513
12-23-2020, 02:26 PM
60 failed lawsuits is more than enough to make him (and you) look like a fool
oh wait, i'm sure its all just deep state, right?
?Texas has not demonstrated a judicially cognizable interest in the manner in which another State conducts its elections,? the court wrote in its unsigned order.
No justice indicated any endorsement of Texas' arguments. Justices Samuel Alito and Clarence Thomas issued a statement saying they would have allowed Texas? to file its case under a rarely-used procedure for interstate disputes, but they said ?would not grant other relief.?
if you wanna keep blowing hot air at the difference between "doesn't have legitimacy" vs "doesn't have standing", be my guest. you're welcome to rearrange the deck chairs on the titanic all you like.
Rittenhoused? Is that new maga slang? Please enlighten me.
Assumptions. Saw that comin.
All this rambling and you still havent even argued against my original point. You just keep going on about scotus when idgaf about scotus lol. You dont even understand what Im saying.
60 lawsuits? I see youve got a direct anal IV of MSM narrative. Get your facts straight and try to respond to my point. Why do you keep saying deep state? I havent said deep state once.
You sound like a rigger. Are you a rigger?
kingkilburn
12-23-2020, 02:32 PM
You? An original point? lol
zombiewolf513
12-23-2020, 03:02 PM
You? An original point? lol
Oh the irony in this post.
kingkilburn
12-23-2020, 05:43 PM
So, how bout that proof and evidence? Any to show yet?
deolio
12-23-2020, 07:59 PM
So, how bout that proof and evidence? Any to show yet?
No dood just wait till the 6th it?s all to plan dOnT worry. You?ll love the surprise. Do ur research it posted 19 times can you read duhh jeez so dumb libatard snowflake cucks god is gr8!
-zombie
zombiewolf513
12-23-2020, 08:23 PM
Jesus Saves. Eternal Life Matters. Merry Christmas. Jan 6 is coming.
zombiewolf513
12-23-2020, 08:35 PM
I read it. so far this, and every other instance of "election fraud" that I've seen, has been people voting for trump or TRYING to vote for trump.
I can still imagine him trying to use this as reason to ditch the election results
https://www.wsbtv.com/news/politics/florida-attorney-under-investigation-registering-vote-georgia-encouraging-others-do-same/L6LTC2AHBFDMXPOTZKVMO5ESJQ/
FBI arrests woman for sending pictures of a mutilated body and threatening the family of election official who refused to certify Biden's win in Michigan
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9083129/FBI-arrests-woman-sent-election-official-pictures-mutilated-body.html
LEG1T
12-23-2020, 10:12 PM
What is going to happen Jan 6th?
And what is the backup date in case it doesn’t happen on January 6th so we can cover all angles and potential bullshit excuses?
Also GOP is blocking the advancement of the $2,000 stimulus package and democrats are ready to pass this. Props to Trump for suggesting it, but his own party won’t side with him and get it done.
kingkilburn
12-24-2020, 12:11 PM
Dominion is filing lawsuits against various individuals and media companies after months of shit talking.
Republicans get to put up proof of wrongdoing or pay up.
deolio
12-24-2020, 12:29 PM
Dominion is filing lawsuits against various individuals and media companies after months of shit talking.
Republicans get to put up proof of wrongdoing or pay up.
Queue Trump?s gofundme campaign to milk more simpletons
Green Arrow
12-24-2020, 01:39 PM
These God haters better not be celebrating Christmas or perpetuate the patriarchy by being a good father and buying gifts for your children!
RalliartRsX
12-24-2020, 03:00 PM
These God haters better not be celebrating Christmas or perpetuate the patriarchy by being a good father and buying gifts for your children!
Da fuq?
Anyways. Merry Xmas all!
deolio
12-24-2020, 04:48 PM
These God haters better not be celebrating Christmas or perpetuate the patriarchy by being a good father and buying gifts for your children!
Christmas, which is supposedly the celebration of the birth of a fictional character who was actually born in June? Yeah, I think it?s beyond being a religious holiday at this point, but carry supporting bootstrap-ism while pretending to follow the teachings of a character who encouraged helping the poor. You do you girl.
!Zar!
12-24-2020, 04:49 PM
Every time GreenArrow posts, I imagine a bunch of hotdogs in his mouth.
kingkilburn
12-24-2020, 05:57 PM
These God haters better not be celebrating Christmas or perpetuate the patriarchy by being a good father and buying gifts for your children!
And a happy festivus to you too. I see you've skipped right to the airing of grievances.
ixfxi
12-25-2020, 02:55 AM
The mere fact that you float this idea, even flippantly, shows that you have no fucking idea what you're talking about regarding morals or ethics or hard work. War has no recycling value. War takes the product of hard work (taxes) away from the people, weaponizes it, and uses it to devalue countries while lining the pockets of the ruling class.
You make war sound so simple. Based on what you said, world war 1 and 2, and all the people that died for it, were just to line the pockets of the few rich. You do realize that soldiers who fight actually fight for a cause, right? Beliefs and morals. I get it, it must be hard to grasp these things when your smart phone is your source of knowledge and you cant think for yourself.
How do you look at all the concrete data on productivity and inflation blasting off into space while wages stagnate and tell people they need to work harder?
Fuck you personally. Fuck your product. Fuck your business. I'm fucking tired of hearing this bullshit. It's proof that you forgot what an assbeating feels like.
Its the modern man's hustle, I'm in it just like you. If you cant manage, I sympathize for ya. No one said life is easy. But thats cool, lash out at me as if I am the problem. At the end of the day you gotta look at your face in the mirror. If you cant hack it, the only person you can blame is yourself.
This \/
It's canned bullshit the older generation sells to themselves to make them feel superior despite the younger generation's vast advancement in all avenues. It's denial and it's Trump's strongest talking point. mAkE aMeRiCa gR8 aGaiN :cry:
Its not about Making America Great Again. Its about.... NOT BEING A MORON. You see, using your brain, thinking, making informed decisions... all of this is what separates smart adults from dumb adolescents. This isnt canned bullshit. Instead, these are things you learn from reading, listening... in the hopes of increasing your intelligence.
that whole "if you criticize the left you must be a racist" bit is so tired. its more like "if you say racist shit, you get called out for it and held accountable".
ummmmmm actual statistics and studies show that we work more and get less, hour for dollar. . . . so. . .
"real values"? like entry level jobs ACTUALLY being enough to live on, buy a house, have a retirement fund, raise a family, on ONE salary? Sure! Bring that one back asap plz!
Pay for college with JUST a part time job? Bring that one back too!!!
or were there other values you were talking about?
I love this post. Theres so much in it, but I had trim it....
I say plenty of racist shit. I say it to my white friends, my black friends, it really doesnt matter. The difference is that my friends and the people I associate with arent PUSSIES. We know the difference between jokes, sarcasm, and true racism.
I wish I could relate to your complaints. I mean, I never really went to college, and I'm taking care of my family on single income. If you're not intelligent, skilled, or fortunate enough to get a real job (or work for yourself) then thats on you.
New generation be like WAAAAH I'm going to write about this on my blog that no one reads. Or on social media. Just in case you havent figured it out yet: NO ONE CARES.
kingkilburn
12-25-2020, 08:51 AM
What a miserable existence you've lived. Only alive to be awful to anyone you can find and going out of your way to look for them.
Green Arrow
12-26-2020, 04:53 PM
Kyle shut up, youre a poon. A yellow belly.
Currently on wifi at a Red Lobster, a dumb bomber blew up our AT&T switch hub in Nashville.
I wish i had known Joe Biden stated he would cure cancer before my wife had a double mastectomy last month. Go figure...
kingkilburn
12-26-2020, 10:28 PM
You need to go talk to a therapist or something.
Phlip
12-27-2020, 04:34 AM
These God haters better not be celebrating Christmas or perpetuate the patriarchy by being a good father and buying gifts for your children!
I told myself and in private I told two moderators, another admin and two regular members that I was not commenting in this thread until after January 6, but I came back to inform you that I neg repped you for this stupid-ass post.
How was LA?
kingkilburn
12-27-2020, 01:09 PM
I came back to inform you that I neg repped you for this stupid-ass post.
https://www.shutupandtakemymoney.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/im-never-going-to-financially-recover-from-this-joe-exotic-tiger-king-meme.jpg
I was going to do the same but I can't give him anymore. lol
kingkilburn
12-28-2020, 06:08 PM
The House voted over 2/3 for $2000 relief checks and to override Trump's NDAA veto. How bad does McConnell want to lose the Georgia runoff?
LEG1T
12-28-2020, 09:07 PM
The House voted over 2/3 for $2000 relief checks and to override Trump's NDAA veto. How bad does McConnell want to lose the Georgia runoff?
He doesn?t care about them, he knows he?s out-in January because they the republicans couldn?t get him what he wanted. And conversely in fucking them over we just happen to be on the potential receiving end.
I hope his mission is successful. We need it badly!!!
Green Arrow
12-29-2020, 08:44 AM
I told myself and in private I told two moderators, another admin and two regular members that I was not commenting in this thread until after January 6, but I came back to inform you that I neg repped you for this stupid-ass post.
How was LA?
Don?t care, your reputation currency is only good to you and people like you. The zilvia elite. And it was good, locked down a few contracts. In TX now working on some business here and headed to washington later this week.
KA24DESOneThree
12-29-2020, 10:29 AM
You make war sound so simple. Based on what you said, world war 1 and 2, and all the people that died for it, were just to line the pockets of the few rich. You do realize that soldiers who fight actually fight for a cause, right? Beliefs and morals. I get it, it must be hard to grasp these things when your smart phone is your source of knowledge and you cant think for yourself.
Soldiers who are drafted don't fight for a cause of their choosing. They fight for a cause of their country's choosing, and their country's choosing depends on which lobbyist can take which congresspeople to which lunches and which escort is supper, or who slept with whose mistress, or which president/prime minister/premier/prince/princess/king/queen wants to measure dicks with another.
World War I started a domino effect that led to the world we currently live in, and it was fought for exactly zero principles. A world leader got assassinated, lame-ass (and mostly blood-related) monarchs got offended, the world changed forever.
Defense of one's country should be proportional. You don't invade two countries on the other side of the globe because 3,000 people were killed in an act of terror. Sorry, you just fucking don't.
Go tell your beliefs and morals bullshit to hundreds of thousands of dead Iraqis and Afghans. Tell them that it was the moral thing to avenge 3,000 Americans at the expense of 100x that in their civilian casualties. I'm sure they'll be amenable to listening to your fucking high horse false philosophy while they're still struggling with basic infrastructure problems. As a matter of fact, go tell it to the Yemenis who have cholera and are starving or whose children were sold into sex slavery while Saudi Arabia used our bombs to kill their friends.
The ends don't justify the means, you brainwashed warhawk. You tell me I can't think for myself while you parrot the same tired "beliefs and morals" tripe like it's some sort of panacea for the ills of government. Move along.
kingkilburn
12-29-2020, 10:38 AM
America's involvement in both WWs is LITERALLY only about money. Anyone who tells you otherwise is ignorant or wilfully misleading you.
zombiewolf513
12-29-2020, 06:03 PM
:dead:
Can we reassign the Marines to the Department of Offense yet?
KA24DESOneThree
01-04-2021, 10:39 AM
Less than two days until a bunch of bootlicking larpers descend on one of the most repugnant cities in America, guys.
Before 2016, the biggest thing I'd seen up a dude's butt was a glass jar. Now I have to watch a bunch of dudes take turns with jackboots every weekend and it's disgusting. The streets of almost every American city are slick with lube and flags.
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