The 2020 Presidential Race

[jdmgtom]

World war 3 coming... we're already sending more troops to Iran and we don't know whats N. Korea is up to now.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

corbic, exitspeed, s14rebuild fucking enlist, you cowards.Move to Venezuela, you communist.

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[S14rebuild]

corbic, exitspeed, s14rebuild fucking enlist, you cowards.


Look at this guy calling people out, and using the term COWARDS.

you know nothing about any of us, except what we choose to put out on this public forum.


Shut the fuck up.

I wont speak for the others, myself ive made great sacrifices for my country, stood by every president that was elected (even if he didnt receive my vote) so dont u dare use that term. FUCK YOU.


This thread was created to share ideas, toss information back and forth between people who share common ideas, or mabe even open minds on todays politics.

Its not used to call individuals out, attack one anothers characters, or even belittle one another.

But thanks a "coward" i so am thanks gbaby

[Corbic]

Look at this guy calling people out, and using the term COWARDS.

you know nothing about any of us, except what we choose to put out on this public forum.


Shut the fuck up.

I wont speak for the others, myself ive made great sacrifices for my country, stood by every president that was elected (even if he didnt receive my vote) so dont u dare use that term. FUCK YOU.


This thread was created to share ideas, toss information back and forth between people who share common ideas, or mabe even open minds on todays politics.

Its not used to call individuals out, attack one anothers characters, or even belittle one another.

But thanks a "coward" i so am thanks gbabyIt's the typical leftist bullshit name calling.

https://news.yahoo.com/iran-supreme-leader-ayatollah-ali-100318969.html

Iran certainly had this coming and Trump has certainly been restrained in his response to past escalations - drone being shot down, tanker attacks, refinery bombing, etc.

This is also not a Dem/Rep issue, I've argued this several times in this very thread. Neither party has a monopoly as a peace maker or war fighter. Dems are just as much part of the "Military Industrial Complex".

Let's also not forget Hilary and Obama killing Gaddafi and then bragging about it. Gaddafi not having done shit to the US for nearly 30 years. His ousting also has created a humanitarian nightmare and fueled the mass migrations to Europe.

You won't find anyone arguing Soleimani wasn't a military threat to the US or that he wasn't responsible for the deaths of Americans and our allies. The issue is going to be how this situation unfolded and was this the correct solution/escalation.

Not 6 months ago Democrats where calling Trump a pussy for pulling out of Syria and not retaliating against Iran... Now hell be a murdering WW3 starting monster... It's all political theater.






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[spooled240]

You have to enlist in the military to have an opinion on an aggressive foreign military leader being eliminated.

Just like you cant have an opinion on gay marriage if you make and sell chicken sandwiches.

Liberal logic strikes again.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

How many thousands of deaths could gay marriage cause? That's a personal choice that harms ZERO people.

How many trillions of dollars will a potential war cost? (I know Alt-Right extremists don't value human life...though dollars don't either as you like tax policies that drive the country further into debt)

The US military is the most aggressive in the world and by your logic that would make it okay for other countries to attack people here.

Y'all are actively awful people.I thought you are all about punching fascists....

So why you defending Iran?

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[jdmgtom]

Americans should not meddle in the politics of other states.

Iran was not going to attack the US because they are rational actors. The US assassinated someone without cause.

I value the lives of Americans, Iranians and others that could be lost in a needless conflict between the two

Just know the ONLY reason that this assassination happened is because it is good for Saudi Arabia and they convinced Trump to do it.

Also, this was an illegal act of war. Why are you defending Trump violating US Law?

I'm sure it was because they attacked the US embassy

[exitspeed]

Americans should not meddle in the politics of other states.

Iran was not going to attack the US because they are rational actors. The US assassinated someone without cause.

I value the lives of Americans, Iranians and others that could be lost in a needless conflict between the two

Just know the ONLY reason that this assassination happened is because it is good for Saudi Arabia and they convinced Trump to do it.

Also, this was an illegal act of war. Why are you defending Trump violating US Law?

You get to defend a violent domestic terrorist group and an international terrorist all in one week. Definitely a new high low for you (and the left).

And heeeeeere you go claiming what he did was “illegal”. Lol. STOP CRYING WOLF!

You fucks just don’t learn.

[nick_d_240sx]

President Trump denied on Friday afternoon that the U.S. drown airstrike that killed Iranian general Qassem Soleimani on Thursday was intended to “start a war.” Trump reiterated that Soleimani, whom he called the “number one terrorist anywhere in the world,” was planning “imminent and sinister attacks” against U.S. personnel. He added that Soleimani’s “sick passion” was killing innocent civilians. “We take comfort knowing that his reign of terror is over,” he said. “We took action to stop a war. We did not take action to start a war.” He also added that the U.S. does not “seek regime change” in Iran, but said the country’s aggression and use of proxies in the region “must end and it must end now.” “I am ready and prepared to take whatever action is necessary,” he said.

That sums it up.

[exitspeed]

The Leftist media is in full panic mode. Funny they claim won the 2016 election with fear mongering. Yet HERE they are on every network and every outlet fanning the fear flames.

Hey remember when Trump was starting a war with N Korea?

Crying wolf 9ver and over and over.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[Corbic]

Iran is an enemy of every major terrorist group in the world.

So what?

Iran is an enemy of ISIS, al-qaeda, etc.

So what?

There are different sects of Islam.

So what?

BTW, Stalin did nothing wrong

Okay...

And Soleimani isn't a terrorist.

Unless Bin Laden is as well.

Fixed that for you...



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[exitspeed]

And Soleimani isn't a terrorist.

From 2013.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2013/09/30/the-shadow-commander/amp

Suleimani took command of the Quds Force fifteen years ago, and in that time he has sought to reshape the Middle East in Iran’s favor, working as a power broker and as a military force: assassinating rivals, arming allies, and, for most of a decade, directing a network of militant groups that killed hundreds of Americans in Iraq.

I get it, these are your people’s, you have to defend them.

[Future240]

And Soleimani isn't a terrorist.

Unless General Mattis is as well.

While coming Trump for killing him this is what Biden had to say

[Soleimani "deserved to be brought to justice for his crimes against American troops and thousands of innocents throughout the region. He supported terror and sowed chaos," but the decision to kill him "is a hugely escalatory move in an already dangerous region."

Crimes against thousands of innocent people by a terror supporter. Hmm feel like there is a word for that type of person.....

[exitspeed]

*cough* terrorist

Definitely worth defending. Him and oppressive Iran. Fuck letting women into sports arenas. Half class citizen ass bitches.

I mean that’s cool right?


Watching the Left defend this man and Iran just proves how out of touch with reality they are and how far they are willing to go JUST to disagree with Trump. If this happened under Obama’s watch the applause would still be going. We’d be seeing all the photos of the Obama and his team watching it happen. It would be so historic.

The memes are fucking epic.

[RalliartRsX]

https://amp.theatlantic.com/amp/article/604375/


We've basically been at war with Iran. This guy had been orchestrating all the turmoil across the Middle East.



So I took a step back to do some indepth reading on Suleimani. He is quite the figure over in Iran and this all culminated in the killing of a defense contractor a few days ago. This does not include the sanctioning of killing of dozens if not hundreds of American troops over the last few years through proximies.

However, this is where I digress. Suleimani is a product of the 1979 Revolution. Also Iran’s resistance toward the United States’ involvement in the Middle East is a direct result of U.S. involvement in the Iran-Iraq War.

So in essence, we created all the hate by our involvement in the middle east by initiating and fighting various wars for the past 30-40 years.

And this is where I become conflicted. Did he deserve to be targeted by the US? Considering his priors with killing US soldiers, then the simple answer is yes. HOWEVER, this is where it becomes tricky. To waltz in to a foreign country and kill of of thier TOP military leaders is VASTLY different than killing a leader of a militia (Bin Laden). That is the big picture issue I am very much concerned about and what precedence this sets moving forward.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[exitspeed]

For the folks saying he deserved to die:

Eddie Gallagher murdered children and senior citizens to the point where his fellow SEALS turned him in and testified against him.

Trump made sure he was a free man and allowed to retire with honors. Literal war crimes and murder but free.

Suleimani acted in his role (an unfortunate role) and the US killed without going through any of the correct legal channels. Is it okay because he's not white or because he's a Muslim?

Y'all had never heard of this guy and act like he's Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. You sheep would water your plants with Gatorade if Trump told you to.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213593975732527112?s=19

If Suleimani is a terrorist, so is this guy who is actively threatening war crimes against a sovereign state

Exitspeed and Corbic, enlist you cowards.

I assume you can read my age under my name. And you’re suuuuuper fucking smart so I assume you know I can’t.

I come from a family with many many military members including my father who was MIA in Vietnam and received a purpose heart. He was dead set on not letting me go into the military when I was 18. He made me promise to not do it behind his back. He’s o lot told me a few stories but he had very good reason to not want me to enlist.

I lived in Germany with my mother when she was in the Air Force and all I wanted to be was a fighter pilot. I got to play in simulators and run around the base. I loved it.

If the navy would let me be a fighter pilot I’d enlist right now.

But again. I’m old as fuck now and have 3 kids with special needs that very much need their father.

But I get it, you don’t really give a fuck about people, their background or their family’s. You just virtue signal as if you do.

[Corbic]

I assume you can read my age under my name. And you’re suuuuuper fucking smart so I assume you know I can’t.

I come from a family with many many military members including my father who was MIA in Vietnam and received a purpose heart. He was dead set on not letting me go into the military when I was 18. He made me promise to not do it behind his back. He’s o lot told me a few stories but he had very good reason to not want me to enlist.

I lived in Germany with my mother when she was in the Air Force and all I wanted to be was a fighter pilot. I got to play in simulators and run around the base. I loved it.

If the navy would let me be a fighter pilot I’d enlist right now.

But again. I’m old as fuck now and have 3 kids with special needs that very much need their father.

But I get it, you don’t really give a fuck about people, their background or their family’s. You just virtue signal as if you do.He's just "Reeeee" ing and trolling. No valid argument so just scream in the street.

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[exitspeed]

Iran put an $80m bounty on Trumps head. This is the same country that chants death to America.

You fucks need to remember who’s side you’re on. If your aren’t on America’s side you should gtfo.

Again, I absolutely loathed most of Obama’s political decisions. I never ever would have sided with any country that wanted him dead.

[exitspeed]

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[S14rebuild]

For the folks saying he deserved to die:

Eddie Gallagher murdered children and senior citizens to the point where his fellow SEALS turned him in and testified against him.

Trump made sure he was a free man and allowed to retire with honors. Literal war crimes and murder but free.

Suleimani acted in his role (an unfortunate role) and the US killed without going through any of the correct legal channels. Is it okay because he's not white or because he's a Muslim?

Y'all had never heard of this guy and act like he's Khalid Sheikh Mohammed. You sheep would water your plants with Gatorade if Trump told you to.

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1213593975732527112?s=19

If Suleimani is a terrorist, so is this guy who is actively threatening war crimes against a sovereign state

Exitspeed and Corbic, enlist you cowards.


Everytime you post it makes me wanna punch u in the face more and more. U have single handedly ruined this thread.

Shut the fuck up with the coward talk. You dont like this country, get the fuck out. We dont need u nor want u.

[exitspeed]

Dudes actual twitter post.

“We will crush the USA under our feet.”

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200105/83da59feb67eba511dd43ba9af5b8868.jpg

Y’all cool with this right?

And to Ralliarts point, say this is all came to a head because of US meddling in the ME...how is that trumps fault? Considering he’s never been in politics his entire life there’s far reason to point fingers at the Democrats (and republicans). Trumps is dealing with it instead of passing the buck (or in this case billions of bucks on pallets).


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[S14rebuild]

[QUOTE=exitspeed;6368204]Dudes actual twitter post.

“We will crush the USA under our feet.”

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200105/83da59feb67eba511dd43ba9af5b8868.jpg


Yea this guy seems like a goat fucker....glad hes gone


Gbaby...
Please defend him....please

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/m5qDsOmz-Yk

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[feito]

lmfao, funny how these radical leftists go out of their way to protest every single one of trump's moves :rofl:
Remember the WaPo calling baghdadi a "religious scholar"? lol

Seriously, the more I see, the more I believe we can make this meme a reality :D

Damn looney lefties lol

http://i.imgur.com/E5WGsmrl.png (https://imgur.com/E5WGsmr)

[exitspeed]

Hey, even Ricky Georgia’s is sick of the Hollywood left and their hypocrisy.

Lit them the fuck up.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B69kK_YHDgD/?igshid=azz4lktktv6g

https://www.instagram.com/p/B69ou_8HfHh/?igshid=e4ug6sg6iw6t

[Future240]

Everytime you post it makes me wanna punch u in the face more and more. U have single handedly ruined this thread.

Shut the fuck up with the coward talk. You dont like this country, get the fuck out. We dont need u nor want u.

Disagree all you like, but this will not be tolerated.

30 days.

[exitspeed]

Remember folks, homosexuality is a crime in Iran punishable by death.

https://www.dw.com/en/iran-defends-execution-of-gay-people/a-49144899

Meanwhile Trump is fighting criminalization of homosexuality around the globe.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081

Sorry but the Left is on the wrong side of this. Period.

[Corbic]

Remember folks, homosexuality is a crime in Iran punishable by death.



https://www.dw.com/en/iran-defends-execution-of-gay-people/a-49144899



Meanwhile Trump is fighting criminalization of homosexuality around the globe.



https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/national-security/trump-administration-launches-global-effort-end-criminalization-homosexuality-n973081



Sorry but the Left is on the wrong side of this. Period.What are you and Islamophob?!! Racccccsssiiit!, how dare you Judge someone else's religion and culture just because it's not your colonizing white male christian capitalist lie!!!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200107/485d1a8264b9e949ef68d2fc908e53dc.jpg




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[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/7bMYR9l2os0

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[exitspeed]

Exactly. “A claim I’d take more seriously if this wasn’t the 5th WW3 we were supposed to have in the last 4 years.”.

I’ve said it over and over this is the problem with the left. Everything is the end of the world.

[Corbic]

Exactly. “A claim I’d take more seriously if this wasn’t the 5th WW3 we were supposed to have in the last 4 years.”.

I’ve said it over and over this is the problem with the left. Everything is the end of the world.Climate Change, literally worse then Hitler. World will end in 5 years.

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[feito]

I would enlist, but i died during the nuclear war with north korea:wtc:

[exitspeed]

These dumb fucking savages can’t even mourn like civilized human beings. 32 people dead in a stampede.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/trump-iran.html

[Corbic]

These dumb fucking savages can’t even mourn like civilized human beings. 32 people dead in a stampede.



https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/07/world/middleeast/trump-iran.htmlSince all the news is coming from the Iranian State, makes you wonder about the accuracy.

Was the "Stampede" maybe a protest/riot against existing Government policy that resulted in a brutal crack down?

Were the dead really killed in a "stampede", or maybe they are political dissidents and this a convenient way to write off their passing.

Remember, this is a country that openly executes homosexuals via construction cranes and rapes female prisoners before execution. After all, it would be a sin to execute a virgin...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200107/5f8270244e82ddf29ea2c2785d06a87d.jpg

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200107/f4bf63c17179d061500648e2abe0bcbd.jpg

But hey, let's twist facts to defend Iran because Trump is literally worse then Hitler.

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[Future240]

I would enlist, but i died during the nuclear war with north korea:wtc:

How could you die in the North Korean war when you died from the tax cuts?

[TheRealSy90]

But you know, the military leader dude is more important than those 32.

[exitspeed]

Update, it’s 40 plus now.

[Corbic]

Oh Iran, the fuck you doing...

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[exitspeed]

Again to Ralliarts point:
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200108/ef4769b81f551e3887b000f0351445e8.jpg


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[Corbic]

Up to 60+ dead from "stampede"

I'm guessing internal strife is what is driving Iran's recent bad behavior. Anything to distract the pissed off peasants from the oppression and economic collapse...



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[exitspeed]

Trump posted a nice clip of the of the Dems talking a out the “urgency” of impeachment.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B7FULZAhqxn/?igshid=1bi765qla4hq8

Fucking. Lies.

[KA24DESOneThree]

These dumb fucking savages

This is part of the problem.

They aren't savages, not any more so than the "dumb fucking savages" who trample each other for Black Friday deals.

They're people. They're people with a different culture than us.

Our government hates their government, and vice versa. I don't hate anyone in Iran. I don't want any Iranian non-combatant to die, and frankly I don't really want any combatants to die either.

We don't understand each other. Our government has been doing "our bidding" spreading fucking imperialism to areas it doesn't even begin to understand. To areas that aren't compatible with what we believe, to areas that don't understand capitalism, that don't understand secularism. To areas that are almost as blindly nationalistic as we are.

We're like Pinocchio during a lap dance, always sticking our nose where it doesn't belong.

[exitspeed]

The REST of the world doesn’t behave like that.

And so if I’m to accept that these people aren’t acting like savages (by definition. I personally think they’re dumb) should I them hanging gay people or jailing women?

Should I accept pedophiles because some people sick fucks out there find a way to justify it?

It’s unacceptable behavior.

[Corbic]

This is part of the problem.



They aren't savages, not any more so than the "dumb fucking savages" who trample each other for Black Friday deals.

How many people got trampled this Black Friday? Thousands must have died when Kennedy was buried....





They're people. They're people with a different culture than us.



Our government hates their government, and vice versa. I don't hate anyone in Iran. I don't want any Iranian non-combatant to die, and frankly I don't really want any combatants to die either.



We don't understand each other.

This is where you are horribly wrong. Our cultural, moral and religious values make us incompatible.

How can you say "life is precious people deserve understanding, compassion and freedom" and say that's compatible with "homosexuals should be hanged publicly and girls raped before they are stoned to death for being accused of adultery".

Iranians have had two generations of cultural brainwashing that isn't about to go away anytime soon. They do not like you personally on any level. This is why when peace loving hippies bike across the world to show love, they get murdered by random locals.

This why when given the chance for a free democracy, places like Libya, Egypt, Syria and Palestine elect draconian quasi terrorists into power who are more impressive than the secular dictators previously ousted.



Our government has been doing "our bidding" spreading fucking imperialism to areas it doesn't even begin to understand. To areas that aren't compatible with what we believe, to areas that don't understand capitalism, that don't understand secularism.

So... Your cool with raping young girls and murdering homosexuals... As long as it's NIMBY?

What Imperialism? Have we strip mined Afghanistan and stolen all the oil from Iraq? You do realize we export oil, correct? You do realize not a single American company received any contract to support oil extraction in Iraq.. Right?

To areas that are almost as blindly nationalistic as we are.

Yes, because we have tens of thousands of people in the streets burning Iranian flags screaming "Death to Islam".

We are quite the opposite with half the country trying to over turn the 2016 Election and the other half panicking they are getting drafted into WW3.




We're like Pinocchio during a lap dance, always sticking our nose where it doesn't belong.

Quite the opposite in this case. Iran's nose does not belong in fucking Iraq or Syria and they certainly should open a fucking history book.

Antagonizing the United States is a losers game. It takes very little provocation to pull us into a war. No mater the outcome, Iran loses. They lack the money, industrial, financial and human resources.

So when the US blows up some of the goat fucking child killers you gave weapons too... Just STFU about it. Orchestrating an Embassy siege is a bad move.

When's the last time Americans stormed a foreign Embassy and killed the people working there??? Hmmmm






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[Corbic]

The REST of the world doesn’t behave like that.

And so if I’m to accept that these people aren’t acting like savages (by definition. I personally think they’re dumb) should I them hanging gay people or jailing women?

Should I accept pedophiles because some people sick fucks out there find a way to justify it?

It’s unacceptable behavior.

Exactly. Ironically it's the "world without boarders" globalist that can't seem to fucking grasp this.

You want to evolve to a single government one world... Then the majority of the world needs to fucking evolve out of the societal stone age.

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[Corbic]

One thing floating which logically makes sense...

And tapatalk wants me to pay to post the picture, fuck that...

But essentially Iran lost control of their General as he became to powerful and influential. He'd basically gone rouge and was escalating tensions across the Middle East.

Iran gave the US the go ahead to blast his ass and Trump was aware of their planned missile strike. Everything else had been theater.

Both sides got what they wanted, got to save face and now things will return to normal.

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[RalliartRsX]

One thing floating which logically makes sense...

And tapatalk wants me to pay to post the picture, fuck that...

But essentially Iran lost control of their General as he became to powerful and influential. He'd basically gone rouge and was escalating tensions across the Middle East.

Iran gave the US the go ahead to blast his ass and Trump was aware of their planned missile strike. Everything else had been theater.

Both sides got what they wanted, got to save face and now things will return to normal.

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Can you point to your sources of this information?? Not being fasciculus, I truly want to know if this was indeed the case.

[Corbic]

Can you point to your sources of this information?? Not being fasciculus, I truly want to know if this was indeed the case.No source, just internet rumors floating around on various forums.

If all the noise goes away and nothing happens it could be very true, we'll have to see.

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[KA24DESOneThree]

The REST of the world doesn’t behave like that.

And so if I’m to accept that these people aren’t acting like savages (by definition. I personally think they’re dumb) should I them hanging gay people or jailing women?

Should I accept pedophiles because some people sick fucks out there find a way to justify it?

It’s unacceptable behavior.

The REST of the world behaves how it damn well pleases. Hell, Americans killed more than 16,000 people last year. Americans raped more than 127k people last year on record, and we all know that to be just a fraction of the actual rapes.

Okay, it's unacceptable; I never made any argument one way or another. Our government doesn't roll out every time someone's behavior is unacceptable. That's not our purpose. You may think it is, but it's not.

Hate their behavior? Preach. Try to change it. But my tax dollars shouldn't be used because you're riding around on a high horse. I don't want a single penny of my tax dollars used anywhere other than inside our borders.

Corbic, dude, I don't know what to say to you. My gray matter doesn't compute your gray matter's post. Your argumentation style is "no u."

By the way, the US raided the Iranian Consulate General in Erbil in 2007, which was a violation of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. Unlike this attack, we removed and took prisoner multiple Iranians. Oh, whoops.

It's telling that you take rumor as truth. Multiple US lawmakers came out of Trump's last military briefing angry- including multiple Republicans. Now I'll wait for you to say something about them being Republican in Name Only and then bring up some more conservative Facebook memes that, for all you know, were originally authored by a Russian, Israeli or Chinese misinformation operative. That hook was awful shiny, though.

[Corbic]

The REST of the world behaves how it damn well pleases. Hell, Americans killed more than 16,000 people last year. Americans raped more than 127k people last year on record, and we all know that to be just a fraction of the actual rapes.

And what? We actively pursue and prosecute those people. We don't call them heros and Martyrs.





Okay, it's unacceptable; I never made any argument one way or another. Our government doesn't roll out every time someone's behavior is unacceptable. That's not our purpose. You may think it is, but it's not.

No, but you'd be the first to cry if Soli blew up a US Airplane or building.








By the way, the US raided the Iranian Consulate General in Erbil in 2007, which was a violation of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. Unlike this attack, we removed and took prisoner multiple Iranians. Oh, whoops.


https://www.nytimes.com/2006/12/25/world/middleeast/25iraq.html

Oops, maybe post the actual story.

We raided their office in Iraq, not the US and it was in 2006(there is no Iranian bassy in the US).

The office was raided by government agents because Iran was running terror operations out of the Consular. Here we are 14 years later and Iran is still running terror operations across the Middle East.

That is a far cry from American civilians getting mad about something, (like Russia says something offensive) and storming the Russian Embassy in Washington DC and killing a few people in the process. That situation is a regular occurrence in Africa and the Middle East however.




It's telling that you take rumor as truth. Multiple US lawmakers came out of Trump's last military briefing angry- including multiple Republicans. Now I'll wait for you to say something about them being Republican in Name Only and then bring up some more conservative Facebook memes that, for all you know, were originally authored by a Russian, Israeli or Chinese misinformation operative. That hook was awful shiny, though.

Again, more half truths.

What are these "Republican lawmakers" "angry" about?

Are they angry they didn't get invited to the bomb Soli party?

Are they "angry" Trump started WW3?

Maybe they are "angry" Trump didn't start WW3....

You do release the US Military and Intelligence community are the ones that brought the intel and operation to Trump.

It's not like he sent a memo out "Yo, can we like kill an Iranian or some shit? I'm bored AF"



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[exitspeed]

The REST of the world behaves how it damn well pleases. Hell, Americans killed more than 16,000 people last year. Americans raped more than 127k people last year on record, and we all know that to be just a fraction of the actual rapes.

Okay, it's unacceptable; I never made any argument one way or another. Our government doesn't roll out every time someone's behavior is unacceptable. That's not our purpose. You may think it is, but it's not.

Hate their behavior? Preach. Try to change it. But my tax dollars shouldn't be used because you're riding around on a high horse. I don't want a single penny of my tax dollars used anywhere other than inside our borders.

Corbic, dude, I don't know what to say to you. My gray matter doesn't compute your gray matter's post. Your argumentation style is "no u."

By the way, the US raided the Iranian Consulate General in Erbil in 2007, which was a violation of the Vienna Convention on Consular Relations. Unlike this attack, we removed and took prisoner multiple Iranians. Oh, whoops.

It's telling that you take rumor as truth. Multiple US lawmakers came out of Trump's last military briefing angry- including multiple Republicans. Now I'll wait for you to say something about them being Republican in Name Only and then bring up some more conservative Facebook memes that, for all you know, were originally authored by a Russian, Israeli or Chinese misinformation operative. That hook was awful shiny, though.

Got it.

And just for the record you’re cool with other countries hanging gays and women being have class citizens.

Solid stance.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Got it.

And just for the record you’re cool with other countries hanging gays and women being have class citizens.

Solid stance.

"I never made any argument one way or another."

So now I will. No, I'm not cool with it AT ALL, but it's not our government's problem.

We, as individual Americans or as an NGO, can try to step in to change it. We can shed light on it, boycott their products, highlight it on social media, bring it to the world's attention, but it is not our government's problem. At no point in the founding documents of this nation "we must interfere with all wrongdoing everywhere."

If it was, you think they would have labeled black people as more than 3/5ths a person. If it was, you think we wouldn't have killed so many indigenous people. You'd think we would have entered into fair contracts. You'd think we wouldn't have poisoned alcohol, given unwitting people syphilis, illicitly made women infertile, or made electro-shock therapy a thing.

What about the Chinese treatment of Uyghurs? Millions detained, thousands treated inhumanely.

Brazilian indigenous leaders gunned down by loggers and farming cartels.

Mexicans beheaded and melted in lye so Americans can deviate their septums.

Indians gang-raping women and then being extrajudicially murdered by police.

How about our allies in Iraq and Afghanistan? Millions of dollars funded to conservative Muslims in exchange for safe passage or suppression of anti-American sentiment, all while the local warlords get rich and keep women as uneducated second-class citizens due to their imam's interpretation of the Koran. Billions of dollars flooded through poor countries, increasing corruption and making actual, effective governance nearly impossible. See this: https://www.sigar.mil/pdf/LessonsLearned/SIGAR-16-58-LL.pdf

Tens of billions of US dollars spent on anti-drug efforts in Afghanistan and opium production is at literally an all-time high.

CIA-led coups, failed coups, and support of brutal dictatorships and rebel groups because they were aligned with our politics or business relationships in the region.

A series of fucking wars over bananas.

Installing a Shah in Iran who didn't have the slightest idea what he was doing, surrounded himself with yes-men who were equally inept and didn't pay attention to the rule of law in his country.

Installing a Shah in Iran who failed to notice the rising tide of conservative, theocratic anti-interventionism rippling through mosques in his country and the Middle East.

Arming and training conservative Muslims to fight invaders in Afghanistan without thinking of the potential ramifications of creating an entire class of religious warriors during a period of Westernization and capitalism.

Corbic, you're right. It wasn't an embassy, and it wasn't a full consulate. Here's a link for you: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/U.S._raid_on_the_Iranian_Liaison_Office_in_Erbil

We raided a consular office and deprived five people of freedom, two for 305 days and three for up to two years (source needed). We missed the intended targets.

This isn't physics. Every action doesn't have an equal reaction. A small mistake by America (or Russia, or Britain, or Belgium, or France, or Spain, or Japan) can lead to a cascade of decisions, fate, and outside influence that creates a monster.

The world is fucked. Shit's ridiculous. But adventurers can still drive down to Ushuaia from Tuktoyaktuk, from Norway to South Africa, from Glasgow to Mongolia. The world is big, and it can be dangerous, but the vast majority of its people are kind. To consider entire countries as our enemy is ignorant and, frankly, stupid as hell.

[exitspeed]

You have waaaaaay more spare time on your hands than I do my friend.

Look, I’m not saying we should be doing anything over there, but I’m not a military intelligence strategist either. I’ll be the first to admit I don’t follow what goes on over there as other people. Frankly, I don’t give a shit. However, given the fact that I’m not privy to the intricacies of the conflicts over there I will leave that up to the people that are. Trump isn’t acting alone on this, he’s going off of what he’s told and it sounds as though there were more embassy attacks planned.

Here’s another take I have...if we said fuck it and left the middle east alone they would still hate us and want to do harm to our allies. That ship has sailed. So what’s the solution? Do we just keep letting them kill our soldiers over there and never respond? No, that would only embolden them.

I don’t have a solution, nor do I pretend to. But I do think we need to respond accordingly.

What pisses me off about Hollywood and the Left here is they claim they care about human rights (lgbtq, minorities, women, etc) yet they are all coming forward and SUPPORTING a culture of people that LITERALLY sentence people to be hung for those things. It’s just total hypocrisy. Luckily there are people like Ricky Gervais that can come out and tell them right to their face they are hypocrites. Hollywood comedians can dish it out about trump, but when someone gives it back they are appalled.

Sorry, sorta jumped around there.

[exitspeed]

Interesting turn of events...

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-51079965

[exitspeed]

Huh, looks like Iran’s female Olympic medalist agrees with me.

Alizadeh confirmed the rumors Saturday, saying she "didn't want to sit at the table of hypocrisy, lies, injustice and flattery" and that she did not want to be complicit with the regime's "corruption and lies."

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/01/12/middleeast/iran-kimia-alizadeh-defects/index.html

Now that a female from Iran is defecting and speaking out about the regime I wonder if the Left will continue to morn the life of a terrorist and support a oppressive regime.

Probably. Because they just CANT admit trump did the right thing.

And huh, we went from Trump starting WW3 to Iran backing down and now citizens protesting and athletes defecting.

[lewisfk]

So Rand Paul and Mike Lee can critique the administration on the use of lethal force, but not the Dems. Its Congress sole responsibility to declare war not any President. This incident is far from over. The justifications for the air strikes are pathetic and call to question the POTUS true intentions.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/477424-rand-paul-mike-lee-rip-administration-over-insulting-and-demeaning-iran

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/476631-trump-repeatedly-said-obama-would-start-war-with-iran-to-get-elected

[exitspeed]

Anyone can criticize the president. This is America, not Iran where protesters are killed for doing the same. (https://www.cbsnews.com/video/u-s-officials-say-iranian-regime-may-have-killed-over-1000-people-in-recent-protests/ ) The problem is the dems criticize every single thing he does to the point of sounding ridiculous.

I’m just pointing out that it’s hurting the Left, not helping.

[lewisfk]

^^ the Republicans did the same thing to Obama, but even worse! They went wild over brown suit or when he fist bumped his wife.

[exitspeed]

^^ the Republicans did the same thing to Obama, but even worse! They went wild over brown suit or when he fist bumped his wife.

Really bruh? You can’t be serious...

Literally since the day Trump was elected the dems have been trying to have him removed or ruined. It’s been one false end of the world claim after the next without stopping for almost 4 years now.

I agree the republicans were tough on Obama but come on.

[lewisfk]

Some Democrats believe Trump was unfit to be elected President due to his History of racial disparate, his steady lies about the entire Obama family and his grandparents. His 4 plus bankruptcy, failed Trump University, and list of class action lawsuits which some are still pending in court.

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/27738018/ns/us_news-life/t/obama-election-spurs-race-threats-crimes/#.XhuOo1VKh7g

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/national/obama-legacy/racism-during-presidency.html

[KA24DESOneThree]

You have waaaaaay more spare time on your hands than I do my friend.

Look, I’m not saying we should be doing anything over there, but I’m not a military intelligence strategist either. I’ll be the first to admit I don’t follow what goes on over there as other people. Frankly, I don’t give a shit. However, given the fact that I’m not privy to the intricacies of the conflicts over there I will leave that up to the people that are. Trump isn’t acting alone on this, he’s going off of what he’s told and it sounds as though there were more embassy attacks planned.

Here’s another take I have...if we said fuck it and left the middle east alone they would still hate us and want to do harm to our allies. That ship has sailed. So what’s the solution? Do we just keep letting them kill our soldiers over there and never respond? No, that would only embolden them.

I don’t have a solution, nor do I pretend to. But I do think we need to respond accordingly.

What pisses me off about Hollywood and the Left here is they claim they care about human rights (lgbtq, minorities, women, etc) yet they are all coming forward and SUPPORTING a culture of people that LITERALLY sentence people to be hung for those things. It’s just total hypocrisy. Luckily there are people like Ricky Gervais that can come out and tell them right to their face they are hypocrites. Hollywood comedians can dish it out about trump, but when someone gives it back they are appalled.

Sorry, sorta jumped around there.

I probably do have more time on my hands than you do, but I also research decisions made by those in power.

We cannot trust people in power, regardless if they're Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Independent, etc. They're in power- which means they have more control than we do. If someone has more control than me, I'm going to make sure that they're not pulling the wool over my eyes. I'm checking to make sure the taxi driver's face matches the license.

The ship has sailed to do something and to do nothing. If we do something, we keep getting farther and farther away from being able to do nothing, especially if that something is short-sighted. If we do nothing, it opens up the possibility of Russia or China working their way into the region even further. We put ourselves squarely in a catch-22.

We invaded Iraq without real evidence. We illegally crossed the borders of a sovereign nation, killed its military members (and some civilians in the crossfire), deposed its leader, and put tens of thousands of military-trained men out on the street. At no point was there an actual, factual, casus belli. We created a massive humanitarian and economic problem and had ZERO idea how to fix it. Hell, we didn't even invade Afghanistan properly- we should have immediately initiated heavy sanctions against Saudi Arabia but we let their literal sponsorship of 9/11 slide.

The people aren't the problem in Iran, and the government's law is ruled by two things: the Koran and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The intelligent people leave and the only people left are followers and those about to leave. Followers don't have much choice, given that poverty levels are high and per-capita income hasn't even hit 1988 levels again. More than 30% of the government spending is on religious foundations.

I'm anti-government. I find that most American outrage is self-righteous nationalism writ large rather than actual outrage, because Iran killing gays pales in comparison to us destabilizing an entire region over the course of four decades and plunging that region into economic, religious and social chaos all due to some stinking asshole's hard-on for the Russkies.

[Corbic]

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We cannot trust people in power, regardless if they're Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, Independent, etc. They're in power- which means they have more control than we do. If someone has more control than me, I'm going to make sure that they're not pulling the wool over my eyes. I'm checking to make sure the taxi driver's face matches the license.

And yet you want them to be the only ones with firearms...

.The ship has sailed to do something and to do nothing. If we do something, we keep getting farther and farther away from being able to do nothing, especially if that something is short-sighted. If we do nothing, it opens up the possibility of Russia or China working their way into the region even further. We put ourselves squarely in a catch-22.

Welcome to being an adult. To do nothing is to do something, and it will have consequences.

We live in a global world with a global economic economy. Much of the "death to America" sentiment in the world is not driven by us, our actions or our economics but by the failings of others.

It's a wonderful rally call to bring support and power to certain individuals and excuse internal short comings and failures.


We invaded Iraq without real evidence. We illegally crossed the borders of a sovereign nation, killed its military members (and some civilians in the crossfire), deposed its leader, and put tens of thousands of military-trained men out on the street. At no point was there an actual, factual, casus belli. We created a massive humanitarian and economic problem and had ZERO idea how to fix it. Hell, we didn't even invade Afghanistan properly- we should have immediately initiated heavy sanctions against Saudi Arabia but we let their literal sponsorship of 9/11 slide.

Shit happens. Saddam, his supporters and the international community have plenty of blame on themselves. The United States is not the only "person" with self agency. People need to step up and take responsibility.


The people aren't the problem in Iran, and the government's law is ruled by two things: the Koran and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. The intelligent people leave and the only people left are followers and those about to leave. Followers don't have much choice, given that poverty levels are high and per-capita income hasn't even hit 1988 levels again. More than 30% of the government spending is on religious foundations.

See above statements about "Death to America"
They hate us cause they ain't us.

I'm anti-government. I find that most American outrage is self-righteous nationalism writ large rather than actual outrage,

Nonsense.

because Iran killing gays pales in comparison to us destabilizing an entire region over the course of four decades and plunging that region into economic, religious and social chaos all due to some stinking asshole's hard-on for the Russkies.


You are missing the point and are using hyperbole instead of arguments.

Highlighting Iran's track record of humanitarian horrors is to bring light to the fact that it's not "oh they good people, America just mean".

You are crying about a long standing hate because the US supported and propped up a secular, western friendly, capitalist and liberal minded government...

Which was replaced by murderous religious zealots who also happen to be communists.

Where is the self agency on the leaders and people of the region? Why is Iran fucking with Syria, Israel, SA, Iraq and the US?

If they stopped fucking with everyone, the sanctions would end and they could prosper.

If Saddam had stopped waving his dick around after Desert Strom, stopped freaking out about Iran, he would not have gotten whacked post 9/11.

I don't see the US crying about hating the British because we where once subjects to the crown and they fucked with us in 1812 to bolster their war efforts against the French and suckered us into two world wars...

If you become economically successful, you stop caring about this petty shit.


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[Future240]

Another one bites the dust
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/13/795874596/cory-booker-drops-out-of-presidential-race

[RalliartRsX]

LOL! I called that one last week with my wife

[lewisfk]

CB is the number one VP candidate. The hate machine is going in on comments B. Sanders made in 2018 about women being President. It's about to be a mud-slinging contest in a few weeks.

[S14rebuild]

Another one bites the dust
https://www.npr.org/2020/01/13/795874596/cory-booker-drops-out-of-presidential-race

Bye bye!


Trumps knockn them down 1 by 1

[S14rebuild]

Was amazing, to see our nations commander at the ncaa campionship game and all the fans chatting USA! amazing

[Corbic]

Was amazing, to see our nations commander at the ncaa campionship game and all the fans chatting USA! amazingChants: USA! USA! USA!

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[exitspeed]

Yet Bloomberg has a commercial running saying how American is sooooo sick of Trump.

Guess not fool.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Corbic, I'm going to respond to you based on your paragraph number.

1: Hilarious and never. If you've read any of my posts, you'd see that.

2. Much of the "death to America" sentiment is based on our imperialism and refusal to understand that capitalism and Western culture are incompatible with certain people as they exist currently. We spread both imperialism and Western culture at the barrel of a gun. We force change by pointing our considerable arsenal at people.

3. Alright. Do you take responsibility for the civilians killed in Iraq? Do you take responsibility for the destruction of Iraqi infrastructure? Do you take responsibility for our invasion having been planned poorly? How many suicide bombings occurred in Iraq before our occupation? How many after?

4. Your platitudes are cute. They don't hate us because they ain't us. They hate us because their theocratic government tells them to. They hate us because they don't have the education or financial standing to know not to. They hate us because every Iranian person 67 or younger has not known an Iran that wasn't fucked with by the United States. Don't you think that's colored their view a little?

5. How often did you see American flags before 9/11 versus after? How many times were you told "if you aren't with us, you're against us" prior to 9/11? What the everloving fuck do you think "Make America Great Again" is other than nationalism?

6. Using hyperbole how exactly? I'm not crying, I'm pointing out that America supported a weak leader WE put in place. We didn't have the country's best interests in mind, we had ours.

Why do you think we have the right to put our fingers in all the ME pies but Iran doesn't? Because we're a shining beacon on a hill?

Exitspeed, the majority of America is sick of Trump.

You're likely surrounded by people who like Trump.

I'm not. I'm surrounded by people who like Trump, hate Trump, and who don't give a shit about politics. My dad's an always-Trumper, my mom's damn near a socialist, my brother took a hard left turn during the 2016 election cycle, I'm now a registered Dem with libertarian leanings, my in-laws are never-Trumpers, my GM would prostrate himself upon the altar of Trump if there was such a thing, my best tech has a life-size bust of Trump's sack to practice gargling.

Even moderates are sick of Trump's inability to string together coherent and intelligent sentences- I've done some public speaking and some TV work and yeah, your nerves have to be tamed but holy hell, I've never said anything as idiotic as “I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody. I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous — if you are into this — tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?”

He makes us look stupid. Well, he makes us look more stupid than our foreign policy, healthcare system, penal system and deadlocked legislature do. Even if I agreed with his politics, he speaks like an imbecile. My ESL body guys string together more coherent sentences.

[exitspeed]

Um we were talking about a specific event (that I was not at lol).

But regarding me specifically, I actually have far more friends and family who are Lefties than I do Trump supporters. Literally 99% of the people I work with are lefties, most of them are Bernie fans. Hell my producer is a big time Lefty. I allow her, and anyone else, to speak her mind freely even on set (when it’s my money paying for everything). And they do quite frequently. I just keep my mouth shut and usually change the subject.

[Corbic]

Corbic, I'm going to respond to you based on your paragraph number.

2. Much of the "death to America" sentiment is based on our imperialism and refusal to understand that capitalism and Western culture are incompatible with certain people as they exist currently. We spread both imperialism and Western culture at the barrel of a gun. We force change by pointing our considerable arsenal at people.

5. How often did you see American flags before 9/11 versus after? How many times were you told "if you aren't with us, you're against us" prior to 9/11? What the everloving fuck do you think "Make America Great Again" is other than nationalism?

First, I don't think you understand what "Imperialism" means. You are using it just like the people that call Trump a "Nazi" and a "Racist" . Big mean scary words.

The US uses economy diplomacy - You behave and get on Team America, you get access to our markets, technology, trade, banking system and funding.

You side against us, you get cut off. You act an asshole by interfering with our team, money or are so bad you rouse our voters, you get a stick.

This policy works wonders for people who comply. Look at Japan and South Korea. They jumped on Team USA in the 50's and have seen stratospheric growth, prosperity and security all they while maintaining their unique cultures, religions and identity. They modified what was Non-compliant to American/Western/Capitalist values and have flourished.

By comparison, North Korea, Iraq and Iran are perfect examples of what NOT to do. RNK could be sharing in the Korean dream or even Chinese one had they not been idiots. Iraq and Iran have oil resources that could have lent them the prosperity of Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, and the UAE.

Again, those choose not too.

As for American Flags, I grew up in Europe. The 80's was a America FUCK yeah time. Just look at the opening of Days of Thunder.



Exitspeed, the majority of America is sick of Trump.

You're likely surrounded by people who like Trump.

He makes us look stupid. Well, he makes us look more stupid than our foreign policy, healthcare system, penal system and deadlocked legislature do. Even if I agreed with his politics, he speaks like an imbecile. My ESL body guys string together more coherent sentences.

By your own omission, you are surrounded by the "Reeeee" Team.

Most of the world doesn't read Twitter or care. It's our own Media's endless crusade against him that makes him look horrible.

Notice how most people don't even know Obama is a chain smoker? Media carefully crafted that to make sure video and photo never emerge of him smoking.

Same Media convinced the country Saddam had WMDs.

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[exitspeed]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/01/13/iran-is-closer-than-ever-before-to-regime-collapse-says-former-obama-security-adviser.html

So when you look at this, not as a partisan hack but just the situation, you come to the conclusion it was the right thing to do.

“This was a powerful step, we'll see where it goes," Jones added, referring to the killing of Soleimani. "It's a complicated region, but I think history will say that this was the right thing to do."

Good article.

[exitspeed]

USMCA and China Phase 1 is more than any president has accomplished with trade in the last 40 years +. No one wanted to deal with the consequences (up and down markets, etc). Trump gave zero fucks how it looked and got the deals done.

Again, there is still more to do, but there is NO denying both of these are wins.

[RalliartRsX]

So what is the mechanism trump is using to force China to buy a 10 fold increase in goods from the US?? 2012 was the peak in terms of how much China imported from the US. And this without the use of Taarifs…..which the American people are paying for and which are very much still in place.

In addition, this whole taarif and trade war revolved around IP rights. This latest deal doesn't do a single thing to address it the very reason this current admin began the trade war to begin with.

In terms of the up and down market, that is a self inflicted wound from this current admin.

But I digress, Just as you didn't read the AG report, you didn't read up on the new China trade deal...….or better yet, matched it up to any trade deal the US had with China in the past to make such a bold statement that...."USMCA and China Phase 1 is more than any president has accomplished with trade in the last 40 years "

But again, I digress. No one will change their stance.

P.S The house Intelligence committee just released a shit ton of text messages from Hyde to Parnas laying out the fact that the whole Ukraine debacle revolved around getting dirt on Biden AND potentially placing a hit out on Yvanovich (sp)

P.S.S Federal Watch dog report which was released earlier today stated trump did indeed break the law when he withheld aid to Ukraine. Also, OMB has direct emails stating the trump admin withheld aid and only when the whistle blower came forward, did OMB decided to release the aid

P.S.S.S trump just released aid to PR this past week some 2+ years after the disaster.

I can cite every single one of those sources if non one feels the need to do a quick google search.

[exitspeed]

^
Look, I get it, you’re smarter than everyone because you spend every waking moment of your selfish life reading shit on the internet. You love making that clear because of your obvious self esteem issues. But again, I digress.

So let me ask you, are we worse off or better off than we were before? The USMCA and China Phase 1?

[RalliartRsX]

..........So now reading is frowned upon?!?

Wait, what?!?!

Dude, nothing to do with being smarter, more selfish or any of that. It has ALL to do with vetting the information as received from politicians to make sure they are not all lying to me. How is THAT wrong?? And why are you not doing the same??

Shame on you exitspeed.

Again I digress.

Oh the irony; I am trying to direct the masses to the proper information to make sure they relay to folks who will inevitably be affected (farmers, manufacturing, folks with businesses who have their IPs stolen by China on a min by min basis........don't you own a business exitspeed? So yes, I am trying to HELP YOU!).
How in the world is that selfish??

Please do continue to yell at the clouds.

It is amazing how you keep attacking me as an individual. But yet, I refuse to return the favor. Why?? Because I am not some snow flake who gets all butt hurt when they truly realize they are willfully ignorant and embrace it with open arms and refuse to accept facts........or just read a few lines.

Sad state we are in when reading frowned upon...

[RalliartRsX]

If I am better off? I am not in manufacturing and or own a business to have to experience IP rights infringement.

HOWEVER: lets relate it to car parts; yes I am affected indirectly especially through Amazon and the dead E85 sensor I bought. Amazon has shifted to carrying a SIGNIFICANT number of counterfeit parts passed off as authentic. Sensor bought and failed in less than 2 hour drive time.


When you click a few tabs through Amazon and realized AFTER the fact it is being shipped from China, then yes I am affected. I am not only out the downtime, it costed me a dyno session as I couldn't source a new sensor in time

So very much a cascading effect all from IP rights. And the several hundred I lost on this is peanuts compared to MAJOR companies like HKS, which had to shutter their US operations for this very issue,; IP rights.

Which as it turns out, this trade deal did not address

SO yes, I am affected. And so are a significant number of people on a daily basis.

And this is a single example. Selfish?? No. Informed?? YES!

[exitspeed]

Your passive aggressive attacks are plain as day ie assuming I don’t read. You probably don’t even notice you’re doing it because that’s your personality.

My life is entirely different than yours. I have 3 kids with one on the way. I own my own business and have said business to keep up on and craft to hone. I don’t have the luxury or privilege of reading endless articles criticizing the presidents every move.

[RalliartRsX]

But that's the thing; I am pointing out the simple fact that you are are making such ludicrous statements as "the best deal since" yada yada.....without reading a single word of the actual deal.

I get it, you don't have time. Fine. I have kids as well. I care enough about our nation to weave reading actual releases into my daily routine (if I take a shit, I go read reports). Instead of sitting here on Zilvia, I go read the release. If you truly cared about this country, you would spend the time you would posting in the Automotive thread and go read the actual releases. Or even better, spend the 3 mins you do commenting on the thread and break it up into sections;
2 mins for reading releases and 1 min for commenting here. There is simply no excuse to NOT read up on current events, ESPECIALLY when you find time to post here. You are essentially prioritizing Zilvia over actual digesting facts.

But with that, you cannot just simply make those broad unfounded statements you do on topics WITHOUT actually reading the release. That is my point; you continue to defend this admin with aplomb, all the while without reading a single word of the actual releases, reports or the trade deal. Are you not seeing the irony in all that?? Isn't that the full definition of willfully ignorant?? How is pointing out the fact you decided on your own to NOT read the very thing you confidently comment on as being passive aggressive?? How does that make any sense??

And I would like to point out, it is not criticizing the president when THAT IS THE DEAL THE PRESIDENT SIGNED OFF ON!! I am commenting on the deals he made.

Shoot, you took the time here to respond to my post and still didn't bother to read the trade deal summary...…..

SIGH....

[exitspeed]

I read this article. Again, it’s not perfect but overall this is a win. It’s not everything and that’s why it’s called Phase 1. Still further than Obama or Bush or Clinton got.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/15/business/economy/china-trade-deal-text.html

Edit: literally as I’m typing this my local news report says dairy farmers are calling this a huge win for them. Huh.

[exitspeed]

https://www.autoblog.com/2020/01/16/us-mexico-canada-trade-agreement-senate/

So again, I haven’t read every word of the UCMCA but sounds like this is a win.

“This trade agreement will serve as a model for future trade agreements, and help grow the U.S. economy as a whole, especially the auto sector and its manufacturing supply chain," said Matt Blunt, president of the American Automotive Policy Council.

[S14rebuild]

https://youtu.be/_5tjwasQ7fo


This man is AMAZING! Trump2020!!

How could u not vote for him

[Future240]

Yang is out

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/11/politics/andrew-yang-ends-2020-presidential-campaign/index.html

[lewisfk]

I liked Yang, he is my number two pick for VP. Can any of my fiscal conservatives explain this to me? Please remember the shit storm the previous POTUS took for bankrupting our children's future with debt and hand outs.

https://www.thebalance.com/trump-plans-to-reduce-national-debt-4114401

[S14rebuild]

Wheres my free $ he promised?

[Future240]

I liked Yang, he is my number two pick for VP. Can any of my fiscal conservatives explain this to me? Please remember the shit storm the previous POTUS took for bankrupting our children's future with debt and hand outs.

https://www.thebalance.com/trump-plans-to-reduce-national-debt-4114401

Easy. Trump is not being fiscally conservative just as the past 2 potus were not.

[RalliartRsX]

And Future, how would you propose one go about being fiscally conservative during a recession and also while being president?

[lewisfk]

Easy. Trump is not being fiscally conservative just as the past 2 potus were not.

President Obama took so much shit for the debt while in office, and now the so called Fiscal Conservatives are no where to be found while this POTUS adds Trillions of dollars of debt. Tax breaks for the ultra wealthy has not spurred the economy as predicted, the GDP ended at the same level of 2016. The POTUS demanded the Fed cut interest rates THREE times because the economy was slowing down due to his recklessness.



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/business/economy/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/30/business/economy/federal-reserve-interest-rates.html

[exitspeed]

A few weeks ago I was thinking about this thread and one of my favorite quotes from Jay Z popped into my head.

“A wise man once told me don’t argue with fools. Cause people from a distance can’t tell who is who.”

I could post articles about how great the economy is doing, tell personal stories of my family and everyone around me thriving under the economy, etc etc and it wouldn’t mean anything anti Trump crowd. So fuck it.

Every time I’ve thought about posting in here I just thought of that. Hahahaha.

[KA24DESOneThree]

I've noticed a trend: when the economy is doing well for the upper-middle-class and the well-off but not truly wealthy, I sell restorations. When the economy is doing well for the wealthy and ultra-wealthy, I sell restomods. I'm selling restomods right now.

That's purely anecdotal. As is the fact that a talented and capable mechanical engineer I know is struggling to find work in Southern California.

[Corbic]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200226/0f5f8cb4b26e8be9ff337433f2bfac24.jpg

[Thursday7]

A few weeks ago I was thinking about this thread and one of my favorite quotes from Jay Z popped into my head.

“A wise man once told me don’t argue with fools. Cause people from a distance can’t tell who is who.”

I could post articles about how great the economy is doing, tell personal stories of my family and everyone around me thriving under the economy, etc etc and it wouldn’t mean anything anti Trump crowd. So fuck it.

Every time I’ve thought about posting in here I just thought of that. Hahahaha.

Imagine thinking the state "the economy" and the well-being of (I'm going to make a fat assumption here) your privileged family are indicators of a good leader and that leader's effect on our population as a whole.

[s13 @ fullboost]

A few weeks ago I was thinking about this thread and one of my favorite quotes from Jay Z popped into my head.

“A wise man once told me don’t argue with fools. Cause people from a distance can’t tell who is who.”



I often think of a similar quote by Mark Twain "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.”

[S14rebuild]

Imagine thinking the state "the economy" and the well-being of (I'm going to make a fat assumption here) your privileged family are indicators of a good leader and that leader's effect on our population as a whole.

Arent most people only concerned with themselves and maybe their close family members?

[exitspeed]

Arent most people only concerned with themselves and maybe their close family members?

No, there’s an entire party obsessed with virtue signaling.

[S14rebuild]

Soooo. Joe biden states..... more then 1.5million americans have died since Vietnam......m what a 100% bullshit lie. This guy is a nut.


Why not just state true facts? Whys that so hard. No one ask for an opinion, or what u think...just asking for a straight truth fact. Fucking shame

[CrimsonRockett]

Soooo. Joe biden states..... more then 1.5million americans have died since Vietnam......m what a 100% bullshit lie. This guy is a nut.


Why not just state true facts? Whys that so hard. No one ask for an opinion, or what u think...just asking for a straight truth fact. Fucking shame

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

You should be asking the person currently running our country the same thing.

[Thursday7]

Arent most people only concerned with themselves and maybe their close family members?

I certainly am not.

[S14rebuild]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veracity_of_statements_by_Donald_Trump

You should be asking the person currently running our country the same thing.


Fake news.....is fake news

[S14rebuild]

I certainly am not.

Tisk...tisk...

[Future240]

Fake news.....is fake news

What makes it fake new? The wiki article has nearly a 100 sources.

I'm all for flagging real fake news but if you gone call it out, at least back it up with some facts/sources.

[S14rebuild]

What makes it fake new? The wiki article has nearly a 100 sources.

I'm all for flagging real fake news but if you gone call it out, at least back it up with some facts/sources.

Like biden's supporting facts for his information?

[Future240]

Like biden's supporting facts for his information?


That is whataboutism.

We were not talking about Biden.

You called out a post saying fake news. I am simply saying backup your claim.

[exitspeed]

Soooo. Joe biden states..... more then 1.5million americans have died since Vietnam......m what a 100% bullshit lie. This guy is a nut.


Why not just state true facts? Whys that so hard. No one ask for an opinion, or what u think...just asking for a straight truth fact. Fucking shame

Just to clarify, he said 150 million people. I wasn’t aware half the country has died from “gun violence “.

This right after he asked a crowd for their support as he ran for senate.

His dementia is getting really bad. Like not genuinely not joking.

[RalliartRsX]

............It's amazing that Biden is held to a much different standard than the actual president of the USA in terms of just how many falsehoods they tell.........

Biden lies...."Oh SHIT! He has dementia. Ugh! Not fit for anything much less to be the president of the free world!! Ugh fucking leftieee!!!"

trump lies to a whole new level and and it's "HE IS JUST SPEAKING HIS MIND!!! locker room talk...."

Logic baffles the shit out of me hahahahah!

[S14rebuild]

Sooo u gonna just roll with what biden said?

[S14rebuild]

That is whataboutism.

We were not talking about Biden.

You called out a post saying fake news. I am simply saying backup your claim.

But i was, then wanted to involve trump.... all i wanted was n anwer to my question. 2 wrongs dont make a right. I just wanted to know, if yall really dislike trump n he lies..... u gonna roll with biden n his bullshit on disarming the law abiding american citizen?

[RalliartRsX]

Cool beans.....

[S14rebuild]

Ummm have u not read this entire thread... pretty sure the scruinty of trump is in every other post.

And no i didnt make an assumption..i posted the info...u chosed to ignore it and deflect(like others here) to trumps lies/problems.

Reguarding the fake news...love how fast the snowflakes show up and have an uproar.... its reassuring ur all still out there...cant wait for the 2020 denial and marching, acreaming for an impeachment(again and failed) gonna be great


So that 150mil....thats alot of dead americans.....

[exitspeed]

............It's amazing that Biden is held to a much different standard than the actual president of the USA in terms of just how many falsehoods they tell.........

Biden lies...."Oh SHIT! He has dementia. Ugh! Not fit for anything much less to be the president of the free world!! Ugh fucking leftieee!!!"

trump lies to a whole new level and and it's "HE IS JUST SPEAKING HIS MIND!!! locker room talk...."

Logic baffles the shit out of me hahahahah!

So we’re clear, it’s not ok for Trump to misspeak and therefore shouldn’t be president. So Biden misspeaks and therefore shouldn’t be running for president. Right?

Or it’s ok for you to dislike Trumps inaccuracies but not ok to point out out others.

Logic right?

[s13 @ fullboost]

For the sake of the value of my home & assets I will be 100% voting red. If the dems put out a candidate that made sense to me I would vote for them. I am a registered republican, with that said I voted for Obama the first time........Not the second time. I have many very conservative beliefs but some liberal tendency's. I try to vote for who makes sense for me & my life style. Yes I am totally selfish but do not give a fuck no one earned my money for me.

-Hasan

[exitspeed]

For the sake of the value of my home & assets I will be 100% voting red. If the dems put out a candidate that made sense to me I would vote for them. I am a registered republican, with that said I voted for Obama the first time........Not the second time. I have many very conservative beliefs but some liberal tendency's. I try to vote for who makes sense for me & my life style. Yes I am totally selfish but do not give a fuck no one earned my money for me.

-Hasan

I’m pretty much the same way though we don’t have to register for a political party in WI. I almost voted for Obama the first time. I just could t donut in the voting booth. But I supported and defended him during his first term. I was genuinely excited to what Hope and Change meant. By his second term I realized it just meant identity politics and division.

[S14rebuild]

For the sake of the value of my home & assets I will be 100% voting red. If the dems put out a candidate that made sense to me I would vote for them. I am a registered republican, with that said I voted for Obama the first time........Not the second time. I have many very conservative beliefs but some liberal tendency's. I try to vote for who makes sense for me & my life style. Yes I am totally selfish but do not give a fuck no one earned my money for me.

-Hasan



You get my vote! Lol

[Future240]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/01/pete-buttigieg-ends-history-making-bid-for-white-house/4915514002/

[S14rebuild]

1 more drop-out, 1 more victory for trump! I can taste the salty tears already!!!

[Future240]

how does a democrat drop out = victory for Trump? Pete had no chance of winning. Him dropping out does not affect Trump what so ever.

[RalliartRsX]

It may actually go against trump because if they get a nominee before the convention, then there is a better chance for the Dems to pool their funds and support rather than a broken convention.

But hey, its cool when trump blames the Coronavirus on the Dems. And proceeds to cal it a hoax drummed up bu the Dems. Completely cool to trample over peoples graves and all....

[Future240]

It may actually go against trump because if they get a nominee before the convention, then there is a better chance for the Dems to pool their funds and support rather than a broken convention.

But hey, its cool when trump blames the Coronavirus on the Dems. And proceeds to cal it a hoax drummed up bu the Dems. Completely cool to trample over peoples graves and all....

Now now, lets use actual context. He is not saying that at all.

But at a Saturday press briefing, when a reporter asked him whether he regrets throwing around careless and provocative rhetoric, Trump insisted that what he sees as a "hoax" is the idea that his administration has failed to properly respond to the public-health crisis. "[W]e've done such a good job," he said, adding, "[T]he 'hoax' was used with respect to Democrats and what they were saying. It was a hoax, what they were saying."

[RalliartRsX]

So your statement essentially correlates with what I posted. The very first line asks if the president regrets throwing around careless and provocative rhetoric (which occurred at the Rally in SC).

However, what he stated above is a complete circular argument and demonstrates he has no problem throwing around careless, false statements. You don't get to say things in such a careless fashion repeatedly, and be like "nah nah, I meant, err , I meant, yeah I meant that"and then continue to do the same at the very next rally. Common trend...
You do not get the credit for starting a fire and then running for the fire extinguisher and be like "see!! I am fucking hero!!!"

And no, I am NOT out of context. See below the quote from his rally

“The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. They're politicizing it,” he said. “They don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa. No, they can't. They can't count their votes. One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.’ That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax.”

Then Trump called the coronavirus “their new hoax.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/28/trump-south-carolina-rally-coronavirus-118269

trump knew exactly what he was saying at that rally and how he uses clearly false and careless narratives to rile up his base, knowing well and true they would not do their due diligence in calling the president on the statements.....

[RalliartRsX]

P.S If his admin was doing such a great job (to addressing the coronavirus), trump's latest budget proposal wouldn't have the CDC being cut by almost 16%..........

[S14rebuild]

how does a democrat drop out = victory for Trump? Pete had no chance of winning. Him dropping out does not affect Trump what so ever.



1 by 1 they ALL have to fall for trump/Republicans to win...so yes this makes sense

[RalliartRsX]

^^ That is not how it works. Especially if the dems get thier shit together and "consolidate" their votes. Also, it is not a last man standing competition. The primary is from the Dems.

As I mentioned; a broken convention is in trump's best interest. So if folks drop one by one sooner than later, that idea goes away and trump would be battling a consolidated front versus the dems having to figure out how to fund their various proxi battles within.

trump has all the $$$ right now because no one will primary him/states cancelling primaries/he has a strong donor base.

[S14rebuild]

Smh.....ur right im posting in this thread with no idea at all how the government works.....yup my 4th grade civics teacher would be soo dissapointed

[midnight zenki]

1 more drop-out, 1 more victory for trump! I can taste the salty tears already!!!

Nah, that’s just all the GOP jizz rolling down your cheek from all the dick stroking you’ve been doing.

[S14rebuild]

Nah, that’s just all the GOP jizz rolling down your cheek from all the dick stroking you’ve been doing.

Ahhhh you got me sooo good now.....way togo

[midnight zenki]

Ahhhh you got me sooo good now.....way togo

Damn your right, I needed an oversized shitty meme, right, that would have really made it sting.

[s13 @ fullboost]

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/03/01/pete-buttigieg-ends-history-making-bid-for-white-house/4915514002/

Yeah this is disappointing, if a Dem were to win I would have wanted it to be him.

[S14rebuild]

Damn your right, I needed an oversized shitty meme, right that would have really made it sting.

I guesssssss sooooo.

[exitspeed]

Ok so I’m genuinely interested in what the Lefties in here think about what’s happening here. Obviously the establishment doesn’t want Bernie to get the nomination and convinced mayor Pete and klobuchar to drop out and immediately support Biden. This is ‘16 all over again for the Bernie campaign. They’re being sabotaged by the established when they have a real movement going.

Should Bernie run as an independent? I mean he’s not a Democrat and Democrats are doing everything in their power to stop him.

All joking aside Biden’s gaffs and mumbling and slurring have to be giving the party some second thoughts that he can actually go the distance. And that’s before he gets on stage to debate Trump who will inevitably bring up Hunter. Which we know Biden will get super defensive and mean about. He does have the black vote via Obama. Speaking of Obama, he said he won’t endorse anyone until the nominee is decided. That’s pretty fucked up considering Biden brings him up like they are really best buds.

Warren is Hilary 2.0. She’s unlikable and really doesn’t offer anything any of the other candidates does other than she’s a women and obviously not a PoC.

Then you have Bloomberg basically buying his chance at the nomination, which I think doesn’t sit well with the base, which is basically anti-old rich white men (ironically which is all that’s left).

This is all very interesting to watch honestly. The party is definitely divided between the establishment and the new socialist movement. The question is, no matter who gets the nomination are you willing to vote for whom ever the nominee is? Even if they aren’t your pick? I mean that’s what happened with Trump. He wasn’t who a lot of Republicans wanted at the time but they came around because they saw Hilary as someone would have been worse for the country.

[exitspeed]

And also about the Biden gaffs and mumbling.

https://twitter.com/TheDailyShow/status/1234890296376336384?s=20

When people on your own side like Trevor Noah are saying it’s bad, it’s bad.

But hey, he’s cleaning up tonight so...yeah.

[Future240]

After yesterday it seems Biden will be the candidate.

My guess is he would pick Warren to be VP.

No chance in hell they would win against Trump.

[RalliartRsX]

So future, who will?? It seems there are no candidates in the pool who will??

[TheRealSy90]

Honestly, i'm not worried about the 2020 election since Trump will have it.

I'm more so worried about the 2024 election right now. Where we won't have a carry-over president.

[exitspeed]

Honestly, i'm not worried about the 2020 election since Trump will have it.

I'm more so worried about the 2024 election right now. Where we won't have a carry-over president.

Fun fact, if Mayor Bootyitch ran in 2060 he’d still be younger than Biden and Sanders right now

[midnight zenki]

Biden gaffes vs Trump micro strokes...I still choose Biden for the United Shtatessss.

[Future240]

Most definitely Trump will win. There is no democrat strong enough to beat him. The party is too split.

Cruz 2024!

[lewisfk]

Most definitely Trump will win. There is no democrat strong enough to beat him. The party is too split.

Cruz 2024!

To be honest with you the Democratic Party is a basket case, but there are many Republicans who rather deal with a basket case than what they have in the office. Moderates from both parties and Independents will get Biden elected. Corey Booker,
Amy Klobuchar, or Andrew Yang are my pick for VP.

[Future240]

The bernie bros will help biden lose as they will refuse to vote for him.

[Thursday7]

Hey S14rebuild is temp banned now we can enjoy some time without reactionary ass bootlicking.

[mogli9000]

Calling it right now

Corona virus will slowly deteriorate the Trump train. The news will take demonizing jabs everyday until March.

" TrUmP iS tHE rEAsOn! "
(Empty food shelves, consistent negative news, shook stock market, quarantined zones, cut work hours, depleting bank accounts, altered social options, and a long list blah blah)

All of a sudden when elections comes around. Captain Bernie Save-a-hoe will roll in big ole crusty sack limp dick swinging in a locker room. He will then be glorified as the "Change" needed to bring us back to the "glory days of 2019". We then become fucking commies.

[S14rebuild]

Hey S14rebuild is temp banned now we can enjoy some time without reactionary ass bootlicking.


Hi, bitch.....

[RalliartRsX]

^^ Hahahaha!

https://i.imgflip.com/11652h.jpg

[Future240]

Not looking good for Sanders.

As predicted sleepy Joe likely to get the nom.

With Warren out, I wonder who she will endorse?

[RalliartRsX]

If Joe takes the nod in the rust belt states, Bernie needs to reconsider his campaign.

As it turns out, there is a strong black population in PA and Michigan for example. Bernie has been cancelling campaign showings and refocusing. Bernie is also down some 40 pts in FL.....

And if I keep hearing the Bernie bro yell about the Dem committee snuffing out Bernie, they need to stop being a bunch of whiney bitches and actually show up to vote. Voter turnout for the 18-25 demographic was lower than it was the past several years....which his prime Bernie Bro population.

Bernie outspent Joe in CA by something like 7.5M vs Joe's 40K (yes, that is 4 with 4 zeros vs Bernie's 7 and six zeros....) and only won by 1.5 or so %. That is a shitty return on investment.

And Joe won 10 states on super Tuesday (although Bernie took home a shit ton delegates in CA). Is Joe my #1 pick?? Nope. But momentum is momentum.

[S14rebuild]

Yup...votes are down cause they are joining trumps EMPIRE

que*imperial march*

[Future240]

Biden vs Trump

https://www.usnews.com/news/elections/articles/2020-03-10/joe-biden-defeats-bernie-sanders-in-michigan-primary

[exitspeed]

Trump is going to have a field day with Biden’s obvious Alzheimer’s symptoms. He’s already jabbing at Biden talking about running for senate.

Also, these videos of Biden’s being a total asshole to people on the campaign trail are really bad. Telling people they’re full of shit, calling women dog faced poney soldiers and on and on.

Biden is quick witted enough anymore to beat him in debates.

The skeletons in his closet, like his dead beat son and the money he’s made playing politics in his life long career of being a politician. It’s gonna be a rough road when you can’t remember shit and you snap at anyone who questions you.

[S14rebuild]

https://youtu.be/N8IfsczVYZ0

Anyone care to explain this? Dead serious explain it to me...

[midnight zenki]

Trump is going to have a field day with Biden’s obvious Alzheimer’s symptoms. He’s already jabbing at Biden talking about running for senate.

Also, these videos of Biden’s being a total asshole to people on the campaign trail are really bad. Telling people they’re full of shit, calling women dog faced poney soldiers and on and on.

Biden is quick witted enough anymore to beat him in debates.

The skeletons in his closet, like his dead beat son and the money he’s made playing politics in his life long career of being a politician. It’s gonna be a rough road when you can’t remember shit and you snap at anyone who questions you.


Everything you just pointed out can be slightly altered and used against Trump.

Just add strokes to alzheimer's, replace Hunter Biden with Don Jr. and Ivanka/Jared and then also fucking pornstars, disrespecting war heroes, disrespecting handicap people and being a general piece of shit to people. Add to the list a lifelong career of being a lying con man that sold shitty steaks, a failed scam college, a failed bankrupt casino, etc, etc.

Classic hypocrite talking points. The old commit the acts you accuse your opponent of and then when or if you can stir the shit up claim false outrage. Biden won't apologize for being called out on the exact shit that Trump has based his whole life on. Forcing a candidate to apologize for the same behavior as his right wing opponent most likely won't work this time. I could be wrong though.

[S14rebuild]

Everything you just pointed out can be slightly altered and used against Trump.

Just add strokes to alzheimer's, replace Hunter Biden with Don Jr. and Ivanka/Jared and then also fucking pornstars, disrespecting war heroes, disrespecting handicap people and being a general piece of shit to people. Add to the list a lifelong career of being a lying con man that sold shitty steaks, a failed scam college, a failed bankrupt casino, etc, etc.

Classic hypocrite talking points. The old commit the acts you accuse your opponent of and then when or if you can stir the shit up claim false outrage. Biden won't apologize for being called out on the exact shit that Trump has based his whole life on. Forcing a candidate to apologize for the same behavior as his right wing opponent most likely won't work this time. I could be wrong though.

Most def wrong...

Bidens to slow and half-retard to acually fight back and look intelligent doing so. People care about there rights, way over what supposedly, scams and deals trump is accused of. Americans wont stand for thier rights being trampled on....its that simple. These dems are recorded numerous times stating they dont give a fuck about yours or mine...that should be scary

[RalliartRsX]

Most def wrong...

Bidens to slow and half-retard to acually fight back and look intelligent doing so. People care about there rights, way over what supposedly, scams and deals trump is accused of. Americans wont stand for thier rights being trampled on....its that simple. These dems are recorded numerous times stating they dont give a fuck about yours or mine...that should be scary

Ftpc4fwcDfk

[lewisfk]

Biden just needs to run ads reminding everyone the POTUS was impeached because of he does have what it takes to run a fair campaign and win. If Biden Keeps it simple, we will have an adult in the White House.

[S14rebuild]

Biden just needs to run ads reminding everyone the POTUS was impeached because of he does have what it takes to run a fair campaign and win. If Biden Keeps it simple, we will have an adult in the White House.


...Adult more like a geriatric patient. He wouldnt survive 4yrs of the hardship and stress of the presidency.

Let others infringe on ur rights.....seems legit

[RalliartRsX]

My original video didn't work, so let me post again


Ftpc4fwcDfk

[S14rebuild]

Guess...we can make compilations of any one stumbling, stammering words....

Theres very few people who can 100% align themselves with 1 party. But in no way would i give up any of my rights





WHAT THE FUCK IS AN AR-14?

[RalliartRsX]

You mean like a right to a woman to have a say in HOW she treats her body?? Because, last I checked, a room full of 70+ year old white guys, have no clue on what a woman should and should not do with her body. That is a woman's right

But yeah, Dems be trampling on dem rights boy!!

[S14rebuild]

Thats your belief.. maybe I beleve that noone should be murdered for any reason, were all gods children and abortion is murder....

[RalliartRsX]

And that is also your belief. Just like how you don't want me shoving my belief on you, maybe you shouldn't be shoving your belief on me.

Like the constitution says, Separation of Church and State. Regardless of what religion you follow, that is your damn business. And just because you do not belief in abortion, by the constitution, you are not allowed to impart that right on anyone else.

LITERALLY the First Amendment of the Constitution States

The first amendment to the US Constitution states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof."

So please, tell me again, how is shoving abortion down my throat NOT a direct stampling on anyone much less a WOMAN'S rights?? The only reason people cite why abortion should be illegal is because of religion....

[S14rebuild]

I didnt shove anything down u throat...lol we were talking about rights being infringed apon... okay so pass reglion.... child doesnt have a right to live?
Take the god out of it

Murder is murder...is it not?

[S14rebuild]

Lets not throw constitutional amendments around here cause its very obvs your party chooses to ignore them at will...

[RalliartRsX]

Who said you were shoving it down my throat?? You made the point Dems are infringing, I showed a VERY clear example how the GOP is completely obliterating the Constitution.

In terms of "who" is doing the shoving; it is a generality. We are discussing GOP vs Dems trampling on rights.


And what does my opinion on life/abortion have ANYTHING to do with the fact that you bitch and complain about Dems infringing on rights, when the GOP is literally obliterating the Constitution and Fucking over a Woman's right to her body?? That has no bearing on the discussion at hand.....

And who the fuck cares what I think about when life "begins". It is not my place to tell a woman what to do with her reproductive system and subsequently her fetus. And that ties directly back to when that particular woman "believes" when life is truly established; be it at inception or at first breath. Not my issue. That is her prerogative, not mine. And just because that does not align with your "BELIEFS" doesn't mean her interpretation is no less "right" than yours.....

In that same breath, if I impregnate a woman, I better be damn sure that both our opinions/beliefs on abortion and life align. Our problem, NOT the Government NOT the GOP.....

Please stop pivoting...

[RalliartRsX]

What does it matter if its an amendment or not. ITS IN THE FUCKING CONSTITUTION!!

And I JUST demonstrated how the gop is destroying it...

lol. Yep. S14 is back alright....

[S14rebuild]

Lmfao...fukn beta over here getn pissy

A life is a life..... if babies came from Storks like ur mommy told u, then i guess this wouldnt matter...but no person, wether its man or female, should take a life..period. and if it takes a room full of "white rich men" to instill that law..so be it

Its gonna be alright. I Promise ill honk and wave as i drive by as u and ur cry baby dems picket on the side of the road over TRUMP winning the election again.

[exitspeed]

Everything you just pointed out can be slightly altered and used against Trump.

Just add strokes to alzheimer's, replace Hunter Biden with Don Jr. and Ivanka/Jared and then also fucking pornstars, disrespecting war heroes, disrespecting handicap people and being a general piece of shit to people. Add to the list a lifelong career of being a lying con man that sold shitty steaks, a failed scam college, a failed bankrupt casino, etc, etc.

Classic hypocrite talking points. The old commit the acts you accuse your opponent of and then when or if you can stir the shit up claim false outrage. Biden won't apologize for being called out on the exact shit that Trump has based his whole life on. Forcing a candidate to apologize for the same behavior as his right wing opponent most likely won't work this time. I could be wrong though.

If you recall pages back I admitted trump can be an asshole. However, it’s always been part of his personality. I don’t care for it most of the time but I do find it funny just as I find most memes innuendo funny. Biden is just old and cranky, like the guy yelling at kids to get off his lawn.

I get you’re going to defend your guy but I’m just calling a spade a spade.

Speaking of hypocrisy, it’s hilarious that at the end of the day the party of diversity only supports old white millionaires that they claim to loath so much.

[midnight zenki]

If you recall pages back I admitted trump can be an asshole. However, it’s always been part of his personality. I don’t care for it most of the time but I do find it funny just as I find most memes innuendo funny. Biden is just old and cranky, like the guy yelling at kids to get off his lawn.

I get you’re going to defend your guy but I’m just calling a spade a spade.

Speaking of hypocrisy, it’s hilarious that at the end of the day the party of diversity only supports old white millionaires that they claim to loath so much.

I do recall that and irony is a bitch in respect to your white millionaire point, but here we are. The take away for me in this exchange is that what you pointed out about Biden doesn't matter, if it worked for Trump, fuck it, it could just as easily work for Biden in this post 2016 election era. All that's missing is to have an attorney blackmail a major evangelical leader over a kinky sex tape of him and his wife to garner the support of "true" christians and the Trump playbook wins again.

[S14rebuild]

I do recall that and irony is a bitch in respect to your white millionaire point, but here we are. The take away for me in this exchange is that what you pointed out about Biden doesn't matter, if it worked for Trump, fuck it, it could just as easily work for Biden in this post 2016 election era. All that's missing is to have an attorney blackmail a major evangelical leader over a kinky sex tape of him and his wife to garner the support of "true" christians and the Trump playbook wins again.

Trump does need that to win.


If the election was today, trump would win....hell the father away the election is, more people will vote for trump. If u think biden will win, ur just as crazy as him. Hes a piss poor candidate for the dems and trump will embrase him at debates....i mean thats what gains the votes...literly pwrsonally destroyn ur competition

[exitspeed]

I do recall that and irony is a bitch in respect to your white millionaire point, but here we are. The take away for me in this exchange is that what you pointed out about Biden doesn't matter, if it worked for Trump, fuck it, it could just as easily work for Biden in this post 2016 election era. All that's missing is to have an attorney blackmail a major evangelical leader over a kinky sex tape of him and his wife to garner the support of "true" christians and the Trump playbook wins again.

The main difference is Trumps persona is intentional, Biden’s isn’t.

And also, not sure it’s worse to jokingly say “grab her by the pussy” to another guy or creepily sniff young girls hair and try to kiss them as they dodge your mouth.

[RalliartRsX]

After the shit show that was trump last night, watching him crash the market, not being able to even read the teleprompter and overall just an absolute shit announcement, I would like to remind people of trump's rhetoric not but 1.5 weeks ago.....

Shutting down air travel does not correlate with a "Democratic hoax" or "democrats politicizing" anything.

Kudos to this admin for downplaying this and essentially being complacent in addressing this pandemic. Schools are moving to online classes/telling it's students to not come back after spring break. NBA has suspended their season, the shit show in regards to the test kits, insurance providers not being able to process anything as they are just as unprepared as this entire admin, etc etc. So much for the hoax argument.

And now, we gotta figure out daycare solutions once it all shuts down as we are being given the option to work from home.

Thanks Obam...wait.......

Fun times........

So your statement essentially correlates with what I posted. The very first line asks if the president regrets throwing around careless and provocative rhetoric (which occurred at the Rally in SC).

However, what he stated above is a complete circular argument and demonstrates he has no problem throwing around careless, false statements. You don't get to say things in such a careless fashion repeatedly, and be like "nah nah, I meant, err , I meant, yeah I meant that"and then continue to do the same at the very next rally. Common trend...
You do not get the credit for starting a fire and then running for the fire extinguisher and be like "see!! I am fucking hero!!!"

And no, I am NOT out of context. See below the quote from his rally


“The Democrats are politicizing the coronavirus. They're politicizing it,” he said. “They don't have any clue. They can't even count their votes in Iowa. No, they can't. They can't count their votes. One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia.’ That did not work out too well. They could not do it. They tried the impeachment hoax.”

Then Trump called the coronavirus “their new hoax.”

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/28/trump-south-carolina-rally-coronavirus-118269

trump knew exactly what he was saying at that rally and how he uses clearly false and careless narratives to rile up his base, knowing well and true they would not do their due diligence in calling the president on the statements.....

[RalliartRsX]

The admin literally had to either walk back or "clarify" all the shit trump sprouted last night.

What in the ever living fuck....

[exitspeed]

Your hatred is just so deep. I can genuinely say I’ve never felt such a way about a person I didn’t personally know. It’s very sad.

There is literally NOTHING, NO WAY trump could have responded that you or the Left would have been happy with. None.

End of story.

[RalliartRsX]

Thanks for admitting this admin did a shit job handing the situation......

[exitspeed]

Considering 61 million people were effected by H1N1 in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths, I’d say he’s doing an absolutely fabulous job compared to the previous administration. Also, considerably better than most other countries in the world.

But go ahead and be a biased fuck.

[midnight zenki]

The main difference is Trumps persona is intentional, Biden’s isn’t.

And also, not sure it’s worse to jokingly say “grab her by the pussy” to another guy or creepily sniff young girls hair and try to kiss them as they dodge your mouth.

Your characterization of that as a joke is far to dismissive considering the man partied with Jeffery Epstein and consistently sexualizes his own daughter along with his adulterous behavior.

Don't bother with the Clinton whataboutism, that's not who we are discussing, this is between Trump and Biden. Your creep is far creepier than Biden will ever be.

[RalliartRsX]

Considering 61 million people were effected by H1N1 in the United States and caused 12,469 deaths, I’d say he’s doing an absolutely fabulous job compared to the previous administration. Also, considerably better than most other countries in the world.

But go ahead and be a biased fuck.

exitspeed #triggered #snowflake

You still didn't dismiss his and his admin's handling of the situation......which is the entire premise of my post. Nothing to do with hatred. However the fact that the way this admin has handled this, is DIRECTLY affecting me and my family. Just like how you were pissed off at Obama for taxes/laws (example) and it affected YOUR family, I have every right to be pissed when an admin willfully DOES NOT DO THEIR JOB and the outputs directly affects me and my family.

Universities have all gone online
I know of several people who have to self quarantine (in my immediate circle and family)
I am unable to find basic infant Tylenol at ANY store within a 30 mile radius
I am unable to go to the grocery store for basic needs
I am unable to float my work schedule to support the closing down of daycare
The list is endless

I have to deal with the fallout from how shittily this admin handled all that. And glad you aren't feeling the effects (or spoiler alert, you very much are but because you are so beholden to deer leader you will not admit it)

I will pull up the numbers shortly since you love throwing around numbers and insults.

Are you unable to have a discussion without throwing out insults because someone dislikes how your leader handles himself?? It's amazing your inability to decouple and immediately shoot back with some clearly #triggered or #snowflake comment.

[S14rebuild]

Did obama and biden wait till atleast 20,000 died back in 09 from swine flu before they even bothered to take action?lol


Oh and i luv how biden is out there maken stayements like he has any pull on this. Fjkn moron...staten the same shit TRUMP has already stated.

[S14rebuild]

exitspeed #triggered #snowflake

You still didn't dismiss his and his admin's handling of the situation......which is the entire premise of my post. Nothing to do with hatred. However the fact that the way this admin has handled this, is DIRECTLY affecting me and my family. Just like how you were pissed off at Obama for taxes/laws (example) and it affected YOUR family, I have every right to be pissed when an admin willfully DOES NOT DO THEIR JOB and the outputs directly affects me and my family.

Universities have all gone online
I know of several people who have to self quarantine (in my immediate circle and family)
I am unable to find basic infant Tylenol at ANY store within a 30 mile radius
I am unable to go to the grocery store for basic needs
I am unable to float my work schedule to support the closing down of daycare
The list is endless

I have to deal with the fallout from how shittily this admin handled all that. And glad you aren't feeling the effects (or spoiler alert, you very much are but because you are so beholden to deer leader you will not admit it)

I will pull up the numbers shortly since you love throwing around numbers and insults.

Are you unable to have a discussion without throwing out insults because someone dislikes how your leader handles himself?? It's amazing your inability to decouple and immediately shoot back with some clearly #triggered or #snowflake comment.



Sounds like ur fuck...

Goto JOEBIDEN.COM...heard hill show u how to wash ur hands

Im good though.

[RalliartRsX]

Did obama and biden wait till atleast 20,000 died back in 09 from swine flu before they even bothered to take action?lol


Oh and i luv how biden is out there maken stayements like he has any pull on this. Fjkn moron...staten the same shit TRUMP has already stated.

Please cite those numbers.

And yes, the Obama admin DID do something about it and took lessons learned from the prior outbreak 6 years prior. Also, they did this DURING a recession. trump's response further eroded the market.......sop yeah.

he CDC and other U.S. governmental agencies used the summer lull to take stock of the United States' response to H1N1 flu and attempt to patch any gaps in the public health safety net before flu season started in early autumn. Preparations included planning a second influenza vaccination program in addition to that for seasonal influenza, and improving coordination between federal, state and local governments and private health providers. On 24 October 2009, U.S. President Obama declared swine flu a national emergency, giving Secretary of Health and Human Services Kathleen Sebelius authority to grant waivers to requesting hospitals from usual federal requirements.

So yes, the Obama admin DID do something.

I literally called my insurance company and local government for information and they gave me the runaround and then told me to go to the ER.......because they literally received no guidance on how to address this (or due to the fact that it wasn't a national emergency, they had to enact their own methods on how to address.....)

So yep send everyone to the ER to either
a) Get infected or
b) infect everyone else.

[S14rebuild]

Never said obama, sat on his ass and did nothing...he did so after many died and thousands were ill/infected.

You should atleast applaud the approach this great president is doing to protect this country, instead of snicker and insult him....

[exitspeed]

exitspeed #triggered #snowflake

You still didn't dismiss his and his admin's handling of the situation......which is the entire premise of my post. Nothing to do with hatred. However the fact that the way this admin has handled this, is DIRECTLY affecting me and my family. Just like how you were pissed off at Obama for taxes/laws (example) and it affected YOUR family, I have every right to be pissed when an admin willfully DOES NOT DO THEIR JOB and the outputs directly affects me and my family.

Universities have all gone online
I know of several people who have to self quarantine (in my immediate circle and family)
I am unable to find basic infant Tylenol at ANY store within a 30 mile radius
I am unable to go to the grocery store for basic needs
I am unable to float my work schedule to support the closing down of daycare
The list is endless

I have to deal with the fallout from how shittily this admin handled all that. And glad you aren't feeling the effects (or spoiler alert, you very much are but because you are so beholden to deer leader you will not admit it)

I will pull up the numbers shortly since you love throwing around numbers and insults.

Are you unable to have a discussion without throwing out insults because someone dislikes how your leader handles himself?? It's amazing your inability to decouple and immediately shoot back with some clearly #triggered or #snowflake comment.

Again, he could have handled this from your own playbook and all this shame shit would have happened and you’d be effected the same way.

But whatever. Hashtag shit and keeping blaming Trump for every thing under the sun you aren’t happy with.

[S14rebuild]

Again, he could have handled this from your own playbook and all this shame shit would have happened and you’d be effected the same way.

But whatever. Hashtag shit and keeping blaming Trump for every thing under the sun you aren’t happy with.

Its easy for people to blame thier failures on others sucess.

[exitspeed]

And you do realize that the actions taken to combat this by the healthcare system and other systems are PRE PLANNED and have nothing to do with who’s president?

Trump took extra precautions over a month ago and started banning travel from areas and it was immediately called racist by you fucks (I’m just going with that name for you fucks for now on).

And also, the same shot is happening n every country in the world right now...where trump is NOT president. This is new territory here. The globe has never reacted this way to a virus before. And considering how much better the US is than China, Europe (directly because of their open borders), Japan, etc were not in bad shape. Now the economy is going to be fucked. Go ahead and blame blame blame but there was no good way (even lefty countries like Europe for example) to deal with this.

[exitspeed]

And Ralliart, don’t act like you’re the only one this is affecting. Hell im basically saddling up to not work for the next 2-3 months. If film and movie production is getting canceled so will all my shit.

Also, I have 3 special need children with vulnerable immune systems. Granted this hasn’t had the impact on the youth like H1N1, but this shit terrifies me. It’s only a matter of time before all schools are canceled (I thought it was going to be announced today but it didn’t).

But honestly we need to stop the fucking blame game. It’s pathetic and doesn’t help you or I.

[RalliartRsX]

Did obama and biden wait till atleast 20,000 died back in 09 from swine flu before they even bothered to take action?lol



Dude. That is flat out NOT TRUE!! There were not 20,000 deaths in the US due to the wine flue (that number is FALSE). Second, The Obama admin moved to declaring this a PUBLIC HEALTH Emergency BEFORE A SINGLE PERSON DIED!!

Because you are clearly allergic to facts, here is the FACTUAL timeline on how the Obama Admin addressed the swine flu. I also asked you to research the numbers and you flat out refuse to

Obama acted before pandemic declared
Obama’s acting director of health and human services declared H1N1 a public health emergency on April 26, 2009.

That was when only 20 cases of H1N1 — and no deaths — around the country had been confirmed.

The Obama administration declared swine flu, or H1N1, a public health emergency six weeks before H1N1 was declared a pandemic.

No H1N1 deaths had yet been recorded in the United States.

Six months after that initial declaration, when more than 1,000 deaths had occurred, Obama himself declared H1N1 a national emergency.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/mar/04/facebook-posts/president-obama-declared-h1n1-public-health-emerge/

This declaration freed up funds and resources to begin to tackle the outbreak.

Why do conservative folks always seem to tout straight up lies??

[RalliartRsX]

And you do realize that the actions taken to combat this by the healthcare system and other systems are PRE PLANNED and have nothing to do with who’s president?

Trump took extra precautions over a month ago and started banning travel from areas and it was immediately called racist by you fucks (I’m just going with that name for you fucks for now on).

And also, the same shot is happening n every country in the world right now...where trump is NOT president. This is new territory here. The globe has never reacted this way to a virus before. And considering how much better the US is than China, Europe (directly because of their open borders), Japan, etc were not in bad shape. Now the economy is going to be fucked. Go ahead and blame blame blame but there was no good way (even lefty countries like Europe for example) to deal with this.

Your first two lines are categorically false. Please go look it up. Just like S14 above keeps throwing around clearly false information, you are doing the same. trump did not ban because of corona. He banned because racism. He also didn't ban ANYONE from China. He banned from Muslim nations, WHICH HAD NO STRAINS OF CORONA VIRUS!!

And again, please keep calling me "you fucks". I refuse to stoop to that level. But you can carry on. Doesn't bother me that you are unable to hold a convo without insults.

P.S If the US was better than China, China wouldn't be the one that's touted as Hero's right now as they managed to contain their OWN outbreak.

In essence fuck China for all this. However, we can do better.

Look, I would love to back this president, but he simply needs to stop putting his foot in his mouth. When you cannot read a teleprompter we need to reevaluate how low you want to set the bar.

And who the fuck is going to pay for the $1.5T he literally eviscerated by dumping it into the market. Didn't trump claim that one swipe of a pen he can fix everything?? Well, here we are. And are $1.5T more in depth because of incompetence . Why was that $1.5T not used to prop up the test kits, R&D for a cure, etc?? All knee jerk, ZERO calculated moves. This shows a gross level of incompetency. Perfect.....

And no, Biden was DEFINITELY not my pick for president.

[S14rebuild]

Go to china....heard they need help

[exitspeed]

Right at this moment during this press conference Dr Fauci reiterated that the protocol was followed but it wasn’t prepared for this.

And I’m genuinely sorry about the “you fucks” thing. I’m super tense about this situation and I let that get to me too much yesterday.

Look, no response was going to be perfect. I fully believe that. But we need to get past this and get this economy up and running again ASAP. That’s all I care about.

[S14rebuild]

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/03/house-republicans-tried-to-capitalize-on-coronavirus-to-sneak-anti-abortion-language-into-law/

Seems only right...ralliart...please come and defend that cunt

[RalliartRsX]

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2020/03/house-republicans-tried-to-capitalize-on-coronavirus-to-sneak-anti-abortion-language-into-law/

Seems only right...ralliart...please come and defend that cunt

Read the last line of my post.......

And no, Biden was DEFINITELY not my pick for president.


Regardless; Separation of Church and States. Did you already forget the 1st Amendment?? Oh that's right, you only care when it benefits YOU.

Anything else??

[Future240]

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/03/12/trump-says-democrats-coronavirus-bill-includes-unrelated-goodies/

[RalliartRsX]

https://www.dailysignal.com/2020/03/12/trump-says-democrats-coronavirus-bill-includes-unrelated-goodies/

This is called a rider bill. However, please do not mischaracterize this as ANYTHING new.

In U.S. government, “riders” are bills in the form of additional provisions added to the original versions of bills or resolutions considered by Congress. Often having little relationship to the subject matter of the parent bill, riders are typically used as an often-criticized tactic intended to gain the enactment of a controversial bill that would probably not pass if introduced on its own.

Other riders, known as “wrecking” or “poison pill” bills are used not to actually be passed, but merely to prevent the passage of the parent bill or to ensure its veto by the president.

An Example of a Controversial Rider
The REAL ID Act, passed in 2005, required the creation of something that most Americans have always opposed – a national personal identification registry. The law requires the states to issue new, high-tech driver’s licenses and prohibits the federal agencies from accepting for certain purposes —like boarding airliners—driver’s licenses and identification cards from states that do not meet the law’s minimum standards.

When it was introduced by itself, the REAL ID Act garnered so little support in the Senate that is was never even brought to a vote. But its backers got it passed anyway. The bill’s sponsor, Rep. James Sensenbrenner (R) of Wisconsin, attached it as a rider to a bill no post-9/11 politician would have dared vote against, titled the “Emergency, Supplemental Appropriations Act for Defense, the Global War on Terror, and Tsunami Relief.” That bill allocated money to pay the troops and pay for the war on terror. Few voted against the bill. The military spending bill, with the REAL ID Act rider attached, passed in the House of Representatives by a vote of 368-58, by a vote of 100-0 in the Senate. President George W. Bush signed it into law on May 11, 2005.

Rider bills are most often used in the Senate because the Senate’s rules are far more tolerant to them than the rules of the House. In the House, all amendments to bills must generally be related to or deal with the subject of the parent bill being considered.

Riders are most often attached to major spending, or “appropriations” bills, because the defeat, presidential veto or delay of these bills could delay the funding of vital government programs leading to a temporary government shutdown.

In 1879, President Rutherford B. Hayes complained that lawmakers using riders could hold the executive hostage by “insisting upon the approval of a bill under the penalty of stopping all of the operations of government.”

Please be consistent...

And this is pulled directly from your link

Although the bill addresses providing testing and masks to respond to the coronavirus, it also expands unemployment insurance and food stamps, requires the Social Security Administration to provide paid sick leave, and mandates that employers give paid permanent sick leave to their employees

Please tell me, what's so wrong with any of those items?? Considering if someone works at a low level job for instance (think Factories, labor, etc), if I am forced to make the choice of "don't show up to work because I have to stay home with my kids because daycare is closed and immediately get fired" vs "I need to work because my kids need to eat so I need to leave my 2,5, and 10 year old at home to fend for themselves", what the fuck?!?!

It is situations like this that those provisions DIRECTLY help.

[RalliartRsX]

Exitspeed:

I will absolutely 100% respect this post and thank you!

I am just so fatigued as it's day after day of some other ridiculous shit. I took a hiatus from posting, but man; daycare just gave us word that things are fluid. The local rec centers have closed for atleast 2 weeks. Schools are closed for even longer. My work has no direction from the admin on what to do (and they depend on this admin to provide direction). My insurance stated the same. Lame response to the virus, the constant blame on the last admin (just read his last tweet about Obama changing the rules on testing which is flat out a lie), etc etc. Get the fuck off twitter and go be presidential is all I ask. Shoot, all my trackdays, races, etc are cancelled. However, that's first world problem things and not necessary for me to live.

If this admin would stop looking behind them and just do their fucking job, I wouldn't be here posting. :-/

I literally know people who were DIRECTLY ripped off by trump and Kushners in NJ. They literally worked as a contractor for trump and his org and trump literally just stopped paying his invoices and hid behind bankruptcies after bankruptcies. The exact way he ran his businesses and upteen bankruptcies is how he is running the government and it's like groundhog day.

I guess I am just worn down as you are as well. I really have nothing against you at all and why I refrain from calling you "fucks". I am not mad at you. Just so tired of daily crap from this admin....

Anyways, I appreciate your post! :love:

[srh666]

Lock him up

[dbeiler]

Looks like COVID-19 is primarily, if not completely, isolated to blue counties of the country. Will the DeMs accuse nature of 'election interference'?

When will we start holding people accountable for traveling from infected areas to clean areas? Selfish people traveling is the only reason this virus has spread across the planet.

[RalliartRsX]

Looks like COVID-19 is primarily, if not completely, isolated to blue counties of the country. Will the DeMs accuse nature of 'election interference'?

When will we start holding people accountable for traveling from infected areas to clean areas? Selfish people traveling is the only reason this virus has spread across the planet.

Your first sentence is FALSE

When will be start holding employeers accountable for forcing people to work and to travel to infected areas, only to have same employeer force you to "quarantine"?? Yeah, I know of lets just say a "few" who are currently dealing with this very issue now. However when people like yourself politicize it and in essence downplay it, this is the outcome

Just like that asshole in KY (a RED state) who, after testing positive, left the hospital against Doc orders, and the Governor had to station officers around his house 24/7 to FORCE him to self quarantine. That's the sort of shit that get's us to this point. So I agree, folks like that need to held accountable




US coronavirus death toll surpasses 100, with case in every state
West Virginia reports first coronavirus case, meaning all 50 US states have now been hit by the virus (https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-death-toll-surpasses-100-case-state-200317225259357.html)

[dbeiler]

Your first sentence is FALSE

REALLY? Prove me wrong, you fucker.

[silverarrow27]

REALLY? Prove me wrong, you fucker.

Riverside County is a red county in Southern CA that so far has about 14 confirmed infections and 3 or 4 dead so far.

[RalliartRsX]

REALLY? Prove me wrong, you fucker.

Did the read the link I posted.....or just google maybe.

CDC has all the results. Also KY.

Dont be so.dense.....

[RalliartRsX]

REALLY? Prove me wrong, you fucker.

You are the example of what's wrong with our country. You state some random, totally unsubstantiated statement with no links or facts within 5000 miles of the post.

I respond with the actual numbers and reports and a case in KY (a predominantly red state). Your response?? "Prove" you wrong

What in the ever living fuck. So instead of you doing your own damn research......or shit just fucking reading. Your response is to prove (which I did) you wrong

THIS is what is wrong with out country. Facts dont matter

[dbeiler]

Riverside County is a red county in Southern CA that so far has about 14 confirmed infections and 3 or 4 dead so far.

Riverside county voted Clinton 50%, Trump 44%. Try again.

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/811288852983934976

[dbeiler]

Did the read the link I posted.....or just google maybe.

Your link doesn't even mention the affected county, genius.

"Governor Jim Justice said the confirmed case was detected in the state's Eastern Panhandle, an area close to Washington, DC. He did not immediately disclose the county where the illness occurred."

[RalliartRsX]

Your link doesn't even mention the affected county, genius.

"Governor Jim Justice said the confirmed case was detected in the state's Eastern Panhandle, an area close to Washington, DC. He did not immediately disclose the county where the illness occurred."

Ok. Since you fail to want to do your own research. Here I will do it for you

https://www.kwch.com/content/news/COVID-19-case-confirmed-in-Douglas-County-brings-Kansas-total-to-16-568871681.html

As of Tuesday afternoon, 10 confirmed cases are reported in Johnson County (in the Kansas City metro area), three cases in Wyandotte County and one case each in Butler, Douglas and Franklin counties.

Butler: Red
Douglaus: Blue
Franklin: Red

Please stop fucking politicizing this thing........This is a pandemic across the ENTIRE US. So please take your trash statements and dump it somewhere else.

P.S Kansas is very much a flyover state and county make up is something like 95:5 for trump, so yeah

[RalliartRsX]

P.S If counties had the fucking test kits, we would actually know a TRUE number. Not this Blue vs Red bullshit you are touting.

P.S Go call your local government or insurance and see the runaround they give you about test kits. Let me know when your head stops spinning.

Due to the inavailability of test kits, I was told but BOTH the local government and insurance to go to the fucking ER. To what? Be either exposed or to spread??

It's a fucking cluster. WVA have less than a 100 test kits for the ENTIRE.......FUCKING.......STATE (as of a day or so ago). So you tell me how many people actually have it vs a "hunch".....

[dbeiler]

Ok. Since you fail to want to do your own research. Here I will do it for you

https://www.kwch.com/content/news/COVID-19-case-confirmed-in-Douglas-County-brings-Kansas-total-to-16-568871681.html



Butler: Red
Douglaus: Blue
Franklin: Red

P.S Kansas is very much a flyover state and county make up is something like 95:5 for trump, so yeah

So you found 2 red counties out of like 3000? Even in 'Trump country' the majority of COVID cases are in Johnson county which has been blue since 2018.

Please stop fucking politicizing this thing........

Your posts in this thread vastly outnumber mine so you can check that social justice warrior BS at the door.

[RalliartRsX]

Looks like COVID-19 is primarily, if not completely, isolated to blue counties of the country. Will the DeMs accuse nature of 'election interference'?
.

Ok. Since you fail to want to do your own research. Here I will do it for you

https://www.kwch.com/content/news/COVID-19-case-confirmed-in-Douglas-County-brings-Kansas-total-to-16-568871681.html

Butler: Red
Douglaus: Blue
Franklin: Red



So you found 2 red counties out of like 3000? Even in 'Trump country' the majority of COVID cases are in Johnson county which has been blue since 2018.
.


Your first statement said

"Looks like COVID-19 is primarily, if not completely, isolated to blue counties of the country. Will the DeMs accuse nature of 'election interference'? "

I showed you otherwise and now you are backtracking. Isn't original statement now unequivocally false??

And what does any of this has to do with election interference?? Has a Dem come out to state this??

[dbeiler]

I very clearly acknowledged your findings of COVID cases in red counties. How am I backtracking?

COVID cases are primarily in blue counties. Until you can prove otherwise, that statement is true.

[RalliartRsX]

So then why the ..."Will the DeMs accuse nature of 'election interference'? " You tout it's a Dem problem, continue on to present some random statement that the Dems will try to tie this to election. Then you are like "nah man, I acknowledge your post"?? I must be dense?? You also stated ""Looks like COVID-19 is primarily, if not completely, isolated to blue counties of the country. Will the DeMs accuse nature of 'election interference'?. That sounds like you are saying it is isolated to blue counties. This is not true on several levels, One main one being there are literally .01% test kits available to all the states. It just so happen, the Dem states are more well equiped to handle this as opposed to the more rural or flyover states so they are still trying to figure out this whole testing situation.

It is mostly blue problem, from the simple fact that blue states are leading the way in getting people tested, closing schools, etc etc

Regardless of which states you "think" it is isolated to, what does any of this has to do with election interference?? Has someone come out recently to explicitly state this or is their part of your conspiracy theory??

[Corbic]

Your first statement said

"Looks like COVID-19 is primarily, if not completely, isolated to blue counties of the country. Will the DeMs accuse nature of 'election interference'? "

I showed you otherwise and now you are backtracking. Isn't original statement now unequivocally false??

Again, GTFO here with your politicized bullshit. Or better yet, STOP SAYING THE DEMS ARE SPREADING THE FUCKING DISEASE! That is just not true. Stop being an ass about it. YOU are the one stating it's only a Dem initiated and isolated issue. YOU are the one that is saying it is (falsely) isolated to Dem counties.

Again, stop spreading this shit. It's NOT TRUE! WTF does any of this has to do with election interference?? Care to answer. Or care to show one Dem who stated this?? NON ONE! This is a USA thing. Not a blue vs red thing.I rarely agree with you on politics, but you are correct on this. The only reason you'd see a variance of infection based on political mapping would be Urban vs Rural regions.

Rural will have more social distancing and lower population density. This means fewer cases and slower spread. Urban areas like Seattle and San Fran, with large homeless populations, and dense communities will see this spread like a California wildfire.



As for Trump's responses, damned if you do, damned if you don't.

The virus will either have substantial human impact (illness, death, etc) and he didn't do enough. Or the human impact will be minimal and he over reacted. You will never factually prove what actions where successful and the cost trade off for them.

The problem I see, back in January, the world, both political sides and media all sat back while this mess unfolded in China.

Someone should have started ordering test kit and trying to get ahead of this back then.

Indiana last week had an entire 80 test kits. I was flu sick having spent two weeks traveling by air. Just normal flu, cough, congestion, running nose, sore, but no fever and nothing I'd see the doctor over. Pretty much 98% recovered today.

Based on what I've seen, I could easily have had COVID-19 seeing over half the infected have extremely mild symptoms. But without a fast check, drive up test system in place.. Who fucking knows. I could have been a carrier monkey that infected +40 other people.

[dbeiler]

My DeMs election interference joke was just that, a joke. I'll use sarcasm text for the entire sentence next time, in case the joke isn't obvious to everyone.

I'll admit I should not have used the words primarily and isolated in the same sentence. They contradict. Isolated is the wrong word. Primarily is the right word.

The location of COVID cases has little to do with test kits. Medical personnel WILL get testing done if a person has ACTUAL COVID SYMPTOMS. Too many kits being wasted on people with flu symptoms instead. The amount of negative test results is an indication of that.

The COVID is spreading around blue counties because those are the people who can't follow simple, common sense rules, ie don't travel to infected areas, use the penis bathroom if you have a penis, etc.

[cherryhatch]

Someone should make a Corona-chan thread so we can all leave this one for corbic, exitspeed, s14rebuild, and rallyartrsx to argue with each other...:duh:

[dbeiler]

Someone should make a Corona-chan thread so we can all leave this one for corbic, exitspeed, s14rebuild, and rallyartrsx to argue with each other...:duh:

Change current thread title to "corbic, exitspeed, s14rebuild, and rallyartrsx chat room"?:D

[exitspeed]

Someone should make a Corona-chan thread so we can all leave this one for corbic, exitspeed, s14rebuild, and rallyartrsx to argue with each other...:duh:

Done. Fuck this thread.

[cherryhatch]

Lmao!

Now back on topic; How has this not been a bigger deal with Biden? He's creepy as fuck towards women, touching sniffing, and whispering in their ears. Especially younger girls as seen in videos like this https://youtu.be/iBluRMs58Sg

Imo it sucks to see him swoop in to beat Bernie who doesn't seem to have any dirt on him like biden or trump...

[RalliartRsX]

My DeMs election interference joke was just that, a joke. I'll use sarcasm text for the entire sentence next time, in case the joke isn't obvious to everyone.

I'll admit I should not have used the words primarily and isolated in the same sentence. They contradict. Isolated is the wrong word. Primarily is the right word.

The location of COVID cases has little to do with test kits. Medical personnel WILL get testing done if a person has ACTUAL COVID SYMPTOMS. Too many kits being wasted on people with flu symptoms instead. The amount of negative test results is an indication of that.

The COVID is spreading around blue counties because those are the people who can't follow simple, common sense rules, ie don't travel to infected areas, use the penis bathroom if you have a penis, etc.

No harm no foul in terms of grammar :)

- So how you propose Medical personnel get testing done if......hold your breathe.......they do not have the actual test kits to.....you know......test the individuals and confirm the population in both red or blue counties are carriers and/or infected?? Am I suppose to put my finger in the wind and say "yep, you look sick! no bagel for YOU!! NEXT!!?!? I am really trying to reconcile how not having the test kit availability automatically means that red counties specifically show NO signs of carriers, transmission and infection. Just think about that for a sec.....
How do I know my head gasket is blown if I do not do a compression or leakdown TEST?? How do I know my injectors aren't firing if I do not actually provide a voltage to TEST they opening and an Ohm meter to TEST resistance?? Same concept applies here.......

- And again, how are you attributing this to being relegated to only blue counties because "those are the people" who cannot follow the rules?? You mean the fact that the 2 week incubation period and the fact that there are no test kits available/the expertise/ the infrastructure to properly record which counties have a higher density of affected??

Not trying to be a dick, but your statements not only contradict themselves, but on the base and face value level, literally does not commute or simply make sense. You literally have no basis for your "predominantly" blue statement apart from.......an opinion with zero actual numbers behind it.......even when presented with items which refute this fact.


Considering how your thought process and posts have unfolded, the "DeMs" joke really wasn't a joke at the least.........or a terrible one at best.

[S14rebuild]

So this is where this thread is going...shame

[silverarrow27]

Riverside county voted Clinton 50%, Trump 44%. Try again.

https://twitter.com/latimes/status/811288852983934976

When someone tries to make their point based on Presidential votes :picardfp:

So is Kentucky Red(Trump) or Blue(Beshear)? :fruit:

[dbeiler]

but on the base and face value level, literally does not commute or simply make sense.

Now you're using a common argument tactic of using negative filler material to make it seem like you're winning. Filler material that has zero value in a debate.


even when presented with items which refute this fact.

What's been presented? So far you have,"red counties aren't testing positive because blue counties are the only ones with tests." :picardfp:

[dbeiler]

When someone tries to make their point based on Presidential votes

I use only what works in my favor :fawkd:

So is Kentucky Red(Trump) or Blue(Beshear)?

That's an excellent question. I believe states are mostly judged by their Presidential vote even though the Governor can have a more significant effect on resident's lives.

[lewisfk]

I don't have the time to add to this discussion like I want to. Currently, I have 7 forward-deployed Sailors in quarantine due to being in the Middle East. Finally, the POTUS is using the Navy to help bridge the countries medical shortfalls. The said thing is, Biden already asked for military help a week ago. The Navy can stand up several fleet hospital next to major hospitals to take care of trauma patients since it's our bread and butter. The Navy could stand up 10 fleet hospitals in 72 hours across the U.S., the hardest part is getting to the location via air and having the space to deploy the hospital. The POTUS just stated the virus snuck up on him, as I type this post. This is craz-craz! ��

[S14rebuild]

I don't have the time to add to this discussion like I want to. Currently, I have 7 forward-deployed Sailors in quarantine due to being in the Middle East. Finally, the POTUS is using the Navy to help bridge the countries medical shortfalls. The said thing is, Biden already asked for military help a week ago. The Navy can stand up several fleet hospital next to major hospitals to take care of trauma patients since it's our bread and butter. The Navy could stand up 10 fleet hospitals in 72 hours across the U.S., the hardest part is getting to the location via air and having the space to deploy the hospital. The POTUS just stated the virus snuck up on him, as I type this post. This is craz-craz! ��


Bro...just stop. We get it, u hate trump. Nothing he does will ever be enough for u... ull never be happy until this country is 100% socialist.

Still is fucking annoying.. go tomthe polls cast ur vote. When u lose this 2020 election..dissappear and try again in 4yrs. U bitch and complain like an old lady. Take the L and hush up

[lewisfk]

It's not about hate, when there is a resource available that will save lives and you don't use it because of your ego. That is unacceptable! Three weeks wasted on a test that was garbage and had way too many false positives. I am assigned to a Fleet Hospital and may have to deploy because of his failures to act.

[RalliartRsX]

Now you're using a common argument tactic of using negative filler material to make it seem like you're winning. Filler material that has zero value in a debate.



What's been presented? So far you have,"red counties aren't testing positive because blue counties are the only ones with tests." :picardfp:


Can you please cite county by county numbers for the cases you constantly tout?? You made a claim they are mostly segregated to blue counties, please provide county by county numbers to back this claim up.

[RalliartRsX]

Bro...just stop. We get it, u hate trump. Nothing he does will ever be enough for u... ull never be happy until this country is 100% socialist.

Still is fucking annoying.. go tomthe polls cast ur vote. When u lose this 2020 election..dissappear and try again in 4yrs. U bitch and complain like an old lady. Take the L and hush up

S14 (and anyone reading) This is a serious question

Isn't what this current admin is doing (provided medical support for folks who are unable, Free test kits, Free tests, waiving the income tax, pumping $1.5T into the markets/banks, attempting to hand out $1000.....the list goes on)

Isn't this 100% Socialism?? I am fairly certain this is the VERY definition of socialism no matter what sort of epidemic we are in. It was socialism when the Obama admin bailed out the banks in 2008 and offer tax breaks to the population. So I assume it is also socialism now when the trump admin is also trying to do the exact same thing. Or when trump approves a tax break in a strong economy (not needed).

The difference is; the Obama admin was handed a Recession. Also, why is with how the trump admin is handling the situation, the market continues to get eviscerated?? I am fairly sure at this point, it took a little over 1 week for all the gains from 2016 to today to evaporate. Also, with folks being laid off by the 10s of thousands, it seems unemployment is going to spike. I think in a certain county is Ohio alone it went from a little over 6K on unemployment to 78,000 this week alone :(

[RalliartRsX]

I don't have the time to add to this discussion like I want to. Currently, I have 7 forward-deployed Sailors in quarantine due to being in the Middle East. Finally, the POTUS is using the Navy to help bridge the countries medical shortfalls. The said thing is, Biden already asked for military help a week ago. The Navy can stand up several fleet hospital next to major hospitals to take care of trauma patients since it's our bread and butter. The Navy could stand up 10 fleet hospitals in 72 hours across the U.S., the hardest part is getting to the location via air and having the space to deploy the hospital. The POTUS just stated the virus snuck up on him, as I type this post. This is craz-craz! ��


The problem is the ships are geared towards folks stacked on top of each other. This is not ideal when treating an infectious disease which is transmitted via the airstream or just simply keeping folks in quarantine :(

[TheRealSy90]

Now back on topic; How has this not been a bigger deal with Biden? He's creepy as fuck towards women, touching sniffing, and whispering in their ears. Especially younger girls as seen in videos like this https://youtu.be/iBluRMs58Sg


This because people keep glazing over it. How can anybody watch that creepy compilation video and still vote for the dude. It's so cringe.

[RalliartRsX]

This because people keep glazing over it. How can anybody watch that creepy compilation video and still vote for the dude. It's so cringe.

Agreed. However how is it any different than the "grabbing her by the _____" or Stormy Daniels or any of the sexual harassment cases trump which surfaced prior to trump getting elected??

Again, Biden is not my guy, but how is what he has done anything different from when trump was campaigning?? Sounds like whataboutism, however, if one can vote for trump all things considering, then you don't also get to be hypocritical when the shoe is on the other foot and say how Biden is some sort of sexual deviant, old or has memory loss issues.

I am NOT on board with either men and their behavior WRT to women. Absolutely NOT. However people need to stop moving the goal posts and keep the bar of respect the same height between the two men.

Just like how people glazed over it with trump, here we are. People are glazing over it with Biden sadly :(

[lewisfk]

The problem is the ships are geared towards folks stacked on top of each other. This is not ideal when treating an infectious disease which is transmitted via the airstream or just simply keeping folks in quarantine :(

The Mercy and Comfort will not treat covid patients, only trauma-based patients. The navy only has a few negative pressure rooms on the ships that will stop the spread of the virus. The Navy can tackle everything except for complex surgeries like brain or endo procedures.

[midnight zenki]

This because people keep glazing over it. How can anybody watch that creepy compilation video and still vote for the dude. It's so cringe.

The same way Trump got elected, thanks to the bar being so low it doesn’t matter. He’s running against an Epstein associate that sexualizes his own daughter.

[Future240]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPs_79-hEg8

[jdmgtom]

Trump 2020!

[TheRealSy90]

Agreed. However how is it any different than the "grabbing her by the _____" or Stormy Daniels or any of the sexual harassment cases trump which surfaced prior to trump getting elected??

Again, Biden is not my guy, but how is what he has done anything different from when trump was campaigning?? Sounds like whataboutism, however, if one can vote for trump all things considering, then you don't also get to be hypocritical when the shoe is on the other foot and say how Biden is some sort of sexual deviant, old or has memory loss issues.

I am NOT on board with either men and their behavior WRT to women. Absolutely NOT. However people need to stop moving the goal posts and keep the bar of respect the same height between the two men.

Just like how people glazed over it with trump, here we are. People are glazing over it with Biden sadly :(

So now someone's verbal statements and acts done in private with another adult are the same thing as an old man inappropriately touching young girls on video over and over again?. Ok.

[RalliartRsX]

So now someone's verbal statements and acts done in private with another adult are the same thing as an old man inappropriately touching young girls on video over and over again?. Ok.

That is NOT the same and you know it. Harassment is harassment whether it is done in private or not. I am pretty sure when trump says "I just grabbed them by the _____" or "I just kiss them. Kiss them on the lips" while being a married man, is not a "private act". ESPECIALLY when it is done in a public setting like both those acts (at gala events, parties, etc, where there are HUNDREDS of other people! As far away from PRIVATE as you state....... ). Much less so to woman who has not consented. It is also NOT just verbal. It has been demonstrated this is EXACTLY what he does AT PUBLIC PARTY EVENTS.

I am sorry, but GTFO with that shit.

And thank you for demonstrating my point. trump is measured by an entirely different bar by everyone else. And that's not right........

[Corbic]

"I just grabbed them by the _____" or "I just kiss them. Kiss them on the lips" while being a married man, is not a "private act". ESPECIALLY when it is done in a

Actually it's not an act. It's a statement.

Trump made a joke about how when your rich, girls just let you "grab them by the pussy" to a college who illegally recorded the conversation so it could be released in just such a situation. If someone had videos of him grabbing girls, hiring prostitutes, etc you'd be seeing it all over the news 24/7.

Crying about Trump having affairs and three marriages is nothing but crocodile tears at this point.

Breaking news, the Democrats/Left destroyed the whole "Christian Right".

You spent 20 years trying to convince America that Bill Clinton letting a college girl blow him in the oval office is none of our business. Gays should marry, affairs are no big deal, and Rolan Polanski is a hero.

Shock, America bought your shit. Now we don't care Trump is a flawed, fouled mouth, tact-less billionaire.

In fact, after 8 years of apologizing and groveling to the world and special interest, we're damn proud to have a straight shooing,, no shit taking bad ass on the button.

[RalliartRsX]

Corbic.....1 month late to the party lol

[Corbic]

Corbic.....1 month late to the party lolSorry, be trapped in quarantine.

[Corbic]

That is NOT the same and you know it. Harassment is harassment whether it is done in private or not. I am pretty sure when trump says "I just grabbed them by the _____" or "I just kiss them. Kiss them on the lips" while being a married man, is not a "private act". ESPECIALLY when it is done in a public setting like both those acts (at gala events, parties, etc, where there are HUNDREDS of other people! As far away from PRIVATE as you state....... ). Much less so to woman who has not consented. It is also NOT just verbal. It has been demonstrated this is EXACTLY what he does AT PUBLIC PARTY EVENTS.

I am sorry, but GTFO with that shit.

And thank you for demonstrating my point. trump is measured by an entirely different bar by everyone else. And that's not right........Ohhh the irony now.

[RalliartRsX]

Ohhh the irony now.


.........{shortened for ease of read}

And no, Biden was DEFINITELY not my pick for president.


As I said, many times over BIDEN IS NOT MY PICK! HE wasn't even in my top 10, and this was one of the reason....too many skeletons.

Not surprised......

[Corbic]

As I said, many times over BIDEN IS NOT MY PICK! HE wasn't even in my top 10, and this was one of the reason....too many skeletons.

Not surprised......So you still voting for him though?

[exitspeed]

Joe Rogan posted this yesterday. Fucking nails it.

https://www.instagram.com/tv/B_sM3i0nI48/?igshid=jgan3zbvcnh4

All the Obama nut swingers are going to vote for Biden no matter what. They’ve spent almost 4 years criticizing Trump supporters and talking about the integrity of the office yadda yadda and they themselves are no better.

And Bernie bro’s need not apply. Well unless they too are hypocrites and are going to vote to beat Trump no matter how bad the candidate is.

[ronmcdon]

Im not a fan of trump for the most part but I do appreciate him putting much needed pressure and accountability on communist china throughout his term. i dont see biden being as capable in this regard

[Future240]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/03/opinion/joe-biden-tara-reade.html

[exitspeed]

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/03/opinion/joe-biden-tara-reade.html

The absolute hypocrisy with this Biden/Reade allegation again shows the true colors of the Left. Act like they care, but when it comes down to it they really don?t gaf about women being raped and old white men getting away with anything they want. All fucking virtue signaling.

I don?t want to hear another fucking word about Trumps locker talk (grab her by the pussy, etc) or any other allegations.

[midnight zenki]

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[KA24DESOneThree]

Yeah... I'm not voting for Biden. Bernie had my vote, not the Democrats- and only because he might have been able to do something about our broken healthcare system. Biden's a senile dude whose charm kept him from getting in too much trouble.

We have a choice between bad and worse. The United States has a choice between bad and worse. Maybe I should get into Fortnite, Animal Crossing, and Post Malone and wear nothing but team-branded official sports clothing and get into CrossFit. Anything but actually giving a shit about the continued existence of a country that was founded on noble ideas by flawed geniuses.

This is, frankly, ridiculous. We should all be champing at the bit for more challengers in the ring. Anyone who thinks we have a viable candidate among the wiiiiiiiiiiiiiide field of two needs some work on their macros.

[rvns14]

The absolute hypocrisy with this Biden/Reade allegation again shows the true colors of the Left. Act like they care, but when it comes down to it they really don?t gaf about women being raped and old white men getting away with anything they want. All fucking virtue signaling.

I don?t want to hear another fucking word about Trumps locker talk (grab her by the pussy, etc) or any other allegations.


Inject the bleach my friend and spare us from your bleating.