The 2020 Presidential Race

[RalliartRsX]

Not trying to come in mid-conversation or anything but wasn't Trump like... impeached for something hypothetical? We're about to elect a dude who is DEFINITELY being pushed into office under false pretenses. I could give a fuck who wins but like... let's be honest. This shit is 100% rigged.


Where is your proof?

Gonna tell you what I told zombie;

trump won under the exact same "pretense" and rules in 2016. Where were you in 2016 to come in mid conversion to say its 100% rigged?

Its the same fucking talking point by every single person on the right. Rigged.....with zero proof

4m more voted for Biden. Yeah it's rigged alright..... that's what's rigged.

[zombiewolf513]

ignores tons of information pointing towards rigging
:rant: MUH PROOF MUH PROOF :rant:


ignores tons of information pointing towards rigging
:hyper: MUH PROOF MUH PROOF :hyper:

change the record. ffs you guys couldn't think for yourselves to save your lives.

[SupaDoopa]

I mean, you didn't click through all the shit above? He made it pretty easy. There is countless reports of the dead voting, double votes, shit missing, shit popping up. Some states are doing in-depth recounts. They generally wouldn't waste the time had there not been a solidified form of foul play.

How was Trumps victory 4 years ago comparable? He wasn't pulling in votes that were unverifiable. They claimed Russia had tampered but couldn't prove it. I can say Russia is tampering now. What makes it plausible 4 years ago and not now? Because he made a phone call? Biden is fucking senile and most people who voted for him don't even know the corrosive shit he's trying to push.

Like I said, I'm not dedicating my life to one side or the other. I like to sit in the middle and pick what's best from both and make an educated decision every 4 years. But you have two evils here. Which is less evil? The person who's a moron but made decent moves for the country or someone who is a pussy cat that has some REALLY fucking bad ideas politically.

[zombiewolf513]

:blah:
Combine that with your fits of memeing, racist overtones, regurgitation of alternative facts, and expert level deflection.

Fixed That For You:



:blah:
Combine that with my lacking sense of humor, fragile sensibilities, jar head, and inability to admit to myself when I might be wrong.

Just saved you a trip to the psychologist this week. See I guess we all can chat.

[S14rebuild]

Exactly what you would do when there is evidence of any other crime or law is being broken, You bring your case with the facts and evidence to the courts for your case to be heard.

We are all for the process, if there is and was any fraud Im all for it being tried.

The reason why 99% of Trump cases are being thrown out left and right is because there is no factual and credible, hard evidence to support his claims its that simple.

Trumps claims so far are overwhelmingly unsubstantiated.

And remember this is the same man that announced he was claiming victory in certain states and that he won the election, completely disregarding the counts of the American people and process..lol. Who does that??


Okay...so HYPOTHETICAL..... if what trump is saying and is proven, what do we do with the election? I lm just pickn peoples brains?

We redo it? We just negate the votes we can prove are fraud?

We just give him 4more years?

Just asking...thats all

[kingkilburn]

You guys need to quit with this. Trump's legal team keeps bringing these claims in republican states with republican county governments and republican secretaries of state and republican judges. Every time the judges ask if republican observers have been denied access. Every time the response has been that no access has been denied.

There will always be errors and mistakes, and those errors always have time to be corrected. There is no widespread or even localised attempts at voter fraud. It just doesn't happen.

For your own mental health, stop.

[kingkilburn]

Pennsylvania had been called for Biden. 284 electoral votes and counting.

Lock this shit show up.

[RalliartRsX]

Lol the election board in Pheonix here on fox news was like

Stop, there sre no issues. Sharpies work lol

Even fox News is like yall cray hahahah!

[LEG1T]

Congratulations guys!!!

Deolio, Ralliart, King a sigh of relief finally. The good has defeated this evil.

It’s official, just as I predicted with the exception of Florida.

Literally just got a ray of sunshine here, the moment the announcement was made.

Today feels good to be an American again!

[LEG1T]

A bottle def is getting popped Tn.

[zombiewolf513]

The press called it. It isn't official yet, silly tooters.

[kingkilburn]

We finally got rain. Hopefully the Creek Fire is out.

Also

TE5fmZrqtL8

[zombiewolf513]

^^^yikes and you guys want to say my content is low brow on bath salts

kyle rollin around in his car bumping this with clown makeup and a mask on. Another hit from CRUSH Productions.

[S14rebuild]

You guys need to quit with this. Trump's legal team keeps bringing these claims in republican states with republican county governments and republican secretaries of state and republican judges. Every time the judges ask if republican observers have been denied access. Every time the response has been that no access has been denied.

There will always be errors and mistakes, and those errors always have time to be corrected. There is no widespread or even localised attempts at voter fraud. It just doesn't happen.

For your own mental health, stop.

Whos u guys?.....

[kingkilburn]

Am I supposed to be intimidated that you are stalking me?

[RalliartRsX]

King, chill. S14 is atleast trying, so cut him some slack.

That wolf guy though. Yeah, he is a lost cause.

[SimpleS14]

Historic election for many reasons.

With the senate still in play, I'll be watching the runoff elections in GA very closely.

[SimpleS14]

...........................

[RalliartRsX]

Simple shoutout to your city. They the real mvp!

[SimpleS14]

Simple shoutout to your city. They the real mvp!

Yea. It's been crazy seeing how things have been playing out over here and have this city bring the deciding electoral victory.

A lot of cars with blaring horns and people cheering when the news dropped.

[S14rebuild]

Am I supposed to be intimidated that you are stalking me?


Lmao.....ur my hero

[zombiewolf513]

Paranoid much? lol

THIS IS VOTER INTIMIDATION!!! REEEEE GOOGLE IS STALKING ME REEEEE

[dbeiler]

Yea. It's been crazy seeing how things have been playing out over here and have this city bring the deciding electoral victory.

A lot of cars with blaring horns and people cheering when the news dropped.

It's just a matter of time until the riots begin. Oh wait....... the right doesn't do stupid shit like that.

[dbeiler]

Simple shoutout to your city. They the real mvp!

Philly is a shithole though. There's a reason the rich commute to Philly instead of living there.

[LEG1T]

..............zzzZzz

[LEG1T]

It's just a matter of time until the riots begin. Oh wait....... the right doesn't do stupid shit like that.

Here we go another trumpster with nothing but negativity and bullshit to say...

Damn right we riot, and protest with every injustice because that?s what it takes for our voices to be heard it is and has always been a catalyst for change when civil town halls and attempted peace leads nowhere..

While you and the rest of the right, continue to hate.

The majority continue to love.

And what I?m seeing on TV right now it?s overall very peaceful, celebratory and a beautiful things to see as people come together.

[dbeiler]

Here we go another trumpster with nothing but negativity and bullshit to say...

Damn right we riot, and protest with every injustice because that?s what it takes for our voices to be heard it is and has always been a catalyst for change when civil town halls and attempted peace leads nowhere..

While you and the rest of the right, continue to hate.

The majority continue to love.

And what I?m seeing on TV right now it?s overall very peaceful, celebratory and a beautiful things to see as people come together.

You do realize I can see your original message no matter if you edit or delete, right?

[LEG1T]

You do realize I can see your original message no matter if you edit or delete, right?

That?s fine.

[dbeiler]

Damn right we riot

So should the right riot because they lost?


And what I?m seeing on TV right now it?s overall very peaceful, celebratory and a beautiful things to see as people come together.

That's because the left won and the other side happens to be mature.

[RalliartRsX]

Oh wait. The two guys that got arrested that were dick deep trump supporters don't count as rioters?

Yeah qanon idiots arrested by the FBI

Fuck that nonsense

[LEG1T]

So should the right riot because they lost?




That's because the left won and the other side happens to be mature.

Riot for what? America's democracy is speaking and they want Trump out. There is no basis to legally justify the election was stolen for Trump- therefore no I don't see your relation to why the right would be rioting.

And I would call the right the furthest thing from mature as they followed Trump down a rabbit hole of endless lies, hateful rhetoric and a terrible display of basic human empathy through there shameful handling of the pandemic.

So no and no.

[zombiewolf513]

Here we go another trumpster with nothing but negativity and bullshit to say...


Youd be the first to call a Jo Jo voter the conductor of the Trump train for merely suggesting that a rigged vote should be investigated. You say nothing but negative bullshit.

Damn right we riot

And what I?m seeing on TV right now it?s overall very peaceful, celebratory and a beautiful things to see as people come together.

Makes sense.

Here we go another trumpster with nothing but negativity and bullshit to say...

While you and the rest of the right, continue to hate.

The majority continue to love.


Jesus, youre a living breathing contradiction

Riot for what?
A subverted democracy. Ignoring what youre being told doesnt mean you win the argument dipshit. You literally just respong with "no wrong impossible" and run away. Grow a fucking sack already. If you arent okay with people calling out the system here you can shove your phony high-horse sjw bullshit where the sun dont shine.

[dbeiler]

Oh wait. The two guys that got arrested that were dick deep trump supporters don't count as rioters?

Yeah qanon idiots arrested by the FBI

Fuck that nonsense

Did they incite violence and destroy property?

[zombiewolf513]

oh wait. The two guys that got arrested that were dick deep trump supporters don't count as rioters?

Yeah qanon idiots arrested by the fbi

fuck that nonsense

proof!!!! Wheres the proof!!!!

Proof or it didnt happen you fat lying dog faced pony soldier bastard! Ill challenge you to a pushup contest right now!!!!

Therefor, youre wrong!!!

[LEG1T]

Youd be the first to call a Jo Jo voter the conductor of the Trump train for merely suggesting that a rigged vote should be investigated. You say nothing but negative bullshit.



Makes sense.



Jesus, youre a living breathing contradiction


A subverted democracy. Ignoring what youre being told doesnt mean you win the argument dipshit. You literally just respong with "no wrong impossible" and run away. Grow a fucking sack already. If you arent okay with people calling out the system here you can shove your phony high-horse sjw bullshit where the sun dont shine.

You make me laugh.

I told you Trump would lose and it happened.

You bring nothing to this table. I'll make this easy for the both of us...

Since you're all in on Trump being de-frauded out of this election, if after all his lawsuits the courts award him back the presidency...

Then and only then, you will win your argument.

Otherwise both you and Trump are losers.... Both figuratively and literally.

[zombiewolf513]

uh.... the election isnt officially called yet IDIOT

[dbeiler]

Riot for what? America's democracy is speaking and they want Trump out. There is no basis to legally justify the election was stolen for Trump- therefore no I don't see your relation to why the right would be rioting.

Rioting over dumb stuff is dumb. Can we agree on that and be thankful that it won't be happening after this election?

And I would call the right the furthest thing from mature as they followed Trump down a rabbit hole of endless lies, hateful rhetoric and a terrible display of basic human empathy through there shameful handling of the pandemic.

So no and no.
We can point fingers over the virus handling all day long. The mayor and governor of your city had every opportunity to stop the virus cold. Instead, NYC became the epicenter of the virus, a hub from which it spread across the country. Sure, they "saved" lives with their overbearing restrictions, but according to the amount of NY plates clogging up my roads lately, many of these "saved" lives have now chosen to leave NY permanently.

[RalliartRsX]

Did they incite violence and destroy property?

Errre. They were arrested before the were able to.....

[RalliartRsX]

Zombie

Stop being a POS

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/two-arrested-after-police-get-tip-of-convention-center-threat/2587411/%3famp

Its literally all over the news...

[LEG1T]

Rioting over dumb stuff is dumb. Can we agree on that and be thankful that it won't be happening after this election?


We can point fingers over the virus handling all day long. The mayor and governor of your city had every opportunity to stop the virus cold. Instead, NYC became the epicenter of the virus, a hub from which it spread across the country. Sure, they "saved" lives with their overbearing restrictions, but according to the amount of NY plates clogging up my roads lately, many of these "saved" lives have now chosen to leave NY permanently.

I can already tell that we can agree and disagree respectfully. A notion that is becoming increasingly harder these days so cheers on that.

And yes, I think both sides can learn from each other for a better way forward and rioting over dumb stuff is dumb. Human lives I wouldn't put in that category however, So if you cool with that- then yes I would love to be thankful for it not to happen moving forward.

[dbeiler]

Errre. They were arrested before the were able to.....

Weren't able to incite violence? Or choose not to?

Those Virginia residents didn't get arrested at the PA state line. They got arrested for not having PA conceal carry permits WELL after they entered the state of PA.

[zombiewolf513]

Its literally all over the news...

OMG GUYSES, THEY LIKE LITERALLY HAD A Q ANON STICKER ON THE BUMPER GUYS!
AND THEY WERE LIKE, LITERALLY CARRYING TOTAL LEGAL LIKE AR15s AND DIDNT KNOW THE OUT OF STATE LAWSES SO THAT MEANS THEY WERE THREATENING THE BLACKSES PEOPLE WITH MERELY THEIR PHYSICAL PRESENCE AND EXTREMIST LOOKING SMIRKS ON THEIR FACES.
AND THEN LIKE, WE LITERALLY LIKE CALLED THE POLICE (fuck the police by the way) ON THEM FOR BEING LIKE LITERAL RIGHT WING EXTREMISTS
LIKE GUYSES THEY HAD LIKE A LITERAL Q ANON STICKER GUYS! WE LITERALLY LYNCH BLACK PEOPLE AND TRANSEXUALS WHILE WE RIG ELECTIONS IN THE NAME OF BLACK LIVES MATTER AND DEMOCRACY FOR PEDOPHILES, BUT WE'RE LIKE THE GOOD GUYSES SEE????

You literally provided nothing to this literal conversation. Literally no proof. Literally no nothing. Back to your literal democrat plantation... go on now literally GIT

[zombiewolf513]

And what I'm seeing on muh TV right now it's overall very peaceful stabbings, celebratory and a beautiful things to see as people come apart and spurt.


X6PzLn4Bzj0


>in b4 DEBOOOOOOONKED CONSPIRACY THEORYYYYYYYYY

[Phlip]

I was in New Orleans for my anniversary, what'd I miss?
What time does the Civil War start?

[kingkilburn]

It's pandemonium in the streets! Mayhem, absolute MAYHEM!

https://twitter.com/jaxdellosso/status/1325229771136045057?s=19

[zombiewolf513]

Coming up during the biden speech:

"Mr. presidential stand-in elect for nancy pelosi, what will you do to bridge the divide with people who didn't vote for you?"

https://i.imgflip.com/4cis9f.png

I'M GONNA RAPE EM



It's pandemonium in the streets! Mayhem, absolute MAYHEM!


kingcherrypicking

[SimpleS14]

Philly is a shithole though. There's a reason the rich commute to Philly instead of living there.

eh, it's partly true. Philly is not perfect at all, but it's not complete crap too. Also, low income earners commute into the city too since cost of living can get high and your money stretches better the further out you live.

[kingkilburn]

The whole planet is dancing and singing like the end of the remastered Return of The Jedi. If you've seen riots by all means share with the class.

[zombiewolf513]

Who do you think he's going to plagiarize from this time?

[LEG1T]

King don’t play into the cancer or feed the trolls any longer.

Speechtime!!!!

[zombiewolf513]

Pay attention to your pedo-in-chief

[RalliartRsX]

I'm pretty sure more people turned out to celebrate the ousting of trump than his inauguration

Hahahahahh!

Yeah let that sink in...hahahhahaha!

[zombiewolf513]

Lol good one, while hes standing in front of a car dealership of politician friends and family, and zero average voters. Show me a rally where he had more than 10 people LOL. PrOoOoOoF!!!!!

Oops forgot to social distance. HEY GUYS JOE JUST CURED COVID. WE'RE FREEEE


I don't even think he said he was president-elect

[S14rebuild]

Sooo can we get zilvia.net masks since were gonna have to wear one 24/7 the next 4yrs?


N95 masks stocks just went up

[kingkilburn]

We're going to have multiple vaccines before Q2 of 2021 and we should have been wearing masks every flu season anyway.

[zombiewolf513]

As Jill Bidern's wife and future presidential nominee... I'm out of time. No I will... I per... pledgers... on day... day one... to... sign an Executive Order to undermi-undo the racist muslim ban put into place by the Obama administration. *squints* Is that... Harriet Tubman I see out there? I can't see the teleprompter... Bring it up Unlimited reefergees from Syria, and Benghazi, and Labia, and Seal Team 6, should be able to come here and pursue their Amarercan dream of a free college education. I mean, C'mon man. Cooperate and wear a mask or... people will cooperate.... uh... God bless the troops.

-Joe Biden's animatronic parts - 11/7/2020 (deepfaked)

[andisan]

Well hopefully we get the Obama and Biden economy back and the house market goes down, where I live, a shitty house is up to 400k

We need to start thinking positive after all this negative stuff

What happened to all the riots and mayham? Oh wait Biden won, all those groups will just have to go back to their basements and hibernate for the next 4 years


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[FaLKoN240]

Came in this thread to see exactly what I wanted.

When is trump going to start citing all those tweets and Breitbart articles as his proof when pursuing legal action against the states with fake illegal votes?

[CrimsonRockett]

The amount of projection in this thread has been absolutely hilarious.

The two people accusing others of “REEEE” continuously in this thread were the ones that made the most noise.

As republicans said these last four years, fuck your feelings.

[S14rebuild]

Sooo can we get zilvia.net masks since were gonna have to wear one 24/7 the next 4yrs?


N95 masks stocks just went up

[S14rebuild]

All the mods are here! This is the place to be!!

[zombiewolf513]

As republicans said these last four years, fuck your feelings.

Looks like your ass is a little chapped there too, pal. It's "facts don't care about your feelings" btw.

But we'll be sure to remember your sentiment going forward.

Biden's like totally secured presidential election already bringing the people together:

https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1325289842247299073

[spooled240]

^aren't these the same people that said we couldn't vote in person last week?

Question for all of you Biden supporters: is there anything you are particularly stoked with a Biden administration or are you just mostly glad to see Trump out?

[kingkilburn]

You really don't know much about anything do you.

https://i2.wp.com/digbysblog.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/trump_feelings_tshirts-1.jpg?ssl=1

[Phlip]

Question...
Does anyone think that Trump will ACTUALLY win the election in court while presenting ZERO evidence?
Or will he continue his 0-for streak and continue to look worse in his refusal to prepare his predecessor for the office in the manner of every president before him?
Because is no legal precedent for him trying to squat and keep the presidency, I look forward to whatever nonsense takes place if he drags this out. I hope to see, on television, the Secret Service having to physically
drag him out of the White House.

[RalliartRsX]

This is the first time in 77 years, trump has to come to the realization he is indeed a loser.......and cannot spend his way through it.

Can tweets and random out of context videos be admissible in court as evidence? I have a hunch.....probably not.

[Phlip]

Can tweets and random out of context videos be admissible in court as evidence? I have a hunch.....probably not.

We live in a world where Judge Judy will angrily yell down someone who tries to assert the word of a third party and demand they shut up unless that person is there.
Random 3am rage tweets and "people have said..." aren't going to fly in any court, so this shouldn't even get to the Supreme Court.
I am looking for some good TV seeing the repeated failed attempts though.

[RalliartRsX]

Looking for good tv and tweet fest? Look no further than the implosion and subsequent melting of the wolf snowflake lol

[S14rebuild]

We say 0 evidence, who knows what his legal team has attained. EzVeryone gets their day in court. In the craziest most fuk up year 2020 yall are sleeping on this crazy idea lol.

Do i think so? No
Is it possible? Yes

I askd earlier, hypotheticaly if trump did prove voter fraud or falsehoods, what would this country do?

[Phlip]

The way Federal judges are shitting on these cases thus far, I am inclined to stick to "no evidence."

[RalliartRsX]

We say 0 evidence, who knows what his legal team has attained. EzVeryone gets their day in court. In the craziest most fuk up year 2020 yall are sleeping on this crazy idea lol.

Do i think so? No
Is it possible? Yes

I askd earlier, hypotheticaly if trump did prove voter fraud or falsehoods, what would this country do?


And it was already answered....not sure what else you want

Ps with how the courts are throwing out the cases....im.inclined to believe that nothing exist

And the fact that he would only file these claims if he lost....yeah.

And for the gentleman that said the news can't call it neither can trump through tweets

Ps again with the hypocrisy. The news called it for trump around 11pm that on Nov 3 2016. AGAIN where were you folks all up in arms about news calling it until certified?
Yeah gtfo with that hypocrisy bullshit....

[S14rebuild]

And it was already answered....not sure what else you want

Chill...i want nothing eles, i was replying to a post thats all


Come down off the win high lol

[SupaDoopa]

So like, who's buying guns and stuff?

[RalliartRsX]

[QUOTE=RalliartRsX;6399427]And it was already answered....not sure what else you want /QUOTE]

Chill...i want nothing eles, i was replying to a post thats all


Come down off the win high lol

I addressed you (in regards to you asking the same question every which way when it was already answered) and whoever else is talking about certified results bullshit like thats not exactly how trump and his team did it in 2016

No high horse. Just pointing out the two :wavey:

[S14rebuild]

So like, who's buying guns and stuff?

Good luck... coronavirus, riots and now the dems winning...fukn prices have gone thru the roof.

Gonna be to expensive to shot sumone lol

[LEG1T]

Agree, overwhelmingly no basis. Whether dragged out or escorted out he will be gone.

Andddddd.....Even if you were to play devils advocate here.

The sheer number of votes and states that Biden has on him he doesn?t have the basis to overturn the means imo.

Maybe if he lost one state by a couple of hundred votes, I could see something.

But the man literally lost Michigan, Wisconsin, Pa, Arizona, etc there is no way he?s making up that grounds once there is no basis for widespread fraud so it?s not even worth debating actually.

[spooled240]

Question...
Does anyone think that Trump will ACTUALLY win the election in court while presenting ZERO evidence?.

It's not any crazier than to believe the 2016 election was stolen without any evidence.. that Trump colluded with the Russians without any evidence..or Kavanagh raping women 30 years ago without any evidence

Now the left is all about evidence and due process lmao.

Maybe Biden did win fairly, but let's stop drinking the bipartisan koolaid for a sec and look at these investigations as due diligence for keeping integrity in our elections now and in the future. Election fraud is should be investigated no matter what side you're on.

[kingkilburn]

without any evidence

So your head is just buried in the sand? What's that like?

[SimpleS14]

Question...
Does anyone think that Trump will ACTUALLY win the election in court while presenting ZERO evidence?

No, but there is a case around the decision by PA supreme court that might be revisited by the SCOTUS. A win there won't impact the election results, but it will definitely have an impact on the creation, interpretation and enforcement of state election laws in the future.

[zombiewolf513]

Good luck... coronavirus, riots and now the dems winning...fukn prices have gone thru the roof.

Gonna be to expensive to shot sumone lol

Might want to do it now (as well as download 3d print files), because this is what Biden is planning to EO as much as possible if he gets in:


-All gun purchases required to go through NFA tax stamp system (which already takes 12-16 MONTHS for the limited number of NFA weapons they process)

-Failed NICS checks result in a 911 call

-Guns at home required to be in gun safes at all times (how is this being enforced?)

-gun manufacturers will be sued into non-existence

-manufacturers will not be allowed to modify or CREATE designs that defeat the ever changing gun design regulations (binary triggers, forearm braces, Franklin Armory Providence rifle with digital action)

-the right to make your own gun (milled or 3d printed) will be infringed entirely

-wont be able to import guns

-wont be able to buy "assault weapons" whatever tf those are

-future gun purchases required to be 'smart guns'

-wont be able to buy magazines

-wont be able to buy guns, ammo, or parts online

-limited to 1 gun purchase a month

-required background checks for person to person sales

-make it illegal to gift a gun to an otherwise legal gun owner

-be required to have your gun 'bought back' or registered through a slammed NFA system (which at that point will probably take 4-10 years to process)

-instate no-knock gun raids and red flag laws, especially on the 'mentally unfit'

-make it illegal for people convicted of misdemeanor 'hate crimes' to own a firearm

-eliminate the burden of duty for NICS to provide a background check within 3 days before allowing a sale to proceed

-anyone deemed unfit to have a firearm will have their door kicked down and guns forcibly removed

-states will be 'incentivized' to institute red flag laws and state level mandated gun registration

-he'll 'adequately fund' the background check system (who knows what that means coming from the party of 'defund the police')

-charge adults with crimes for training children to handle firearms

-make it illegal to arm and train a teacher

-increase surveillance on Americans and targeted enforcement of ^



>in b4 PRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFSSSSS DEBOOOOOOOONKED

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/


heres a quote I like from Joe:
Federal law prevents hunters from hunting migratory game birds with more than three shells in their shotgun. That means our federal law does more to protect ducks than children. It?s wrong.

Where do I get my child hunting license from? Is that what the '+' in LGBTQ+ means?

Oh I see, the shotgun shells are to protect the ducks and not bystanders.

Real big-brain stuff we're dealing with here. Totally won't result in mass unrest and civil war.

[Future240]

So like, who's buying guns and stuff?

Im trying to buy a VR80 but Trump's America has then sold out or being sold way above msrp for a good minute now.

[zombiewolf513]

You first time Cali gun buyers crack me tf up. Well good luck getting one at all in Biden's America. You can thank the left for the gun shortage and price hikes. YOU VOTED FOR THEM. Biden should get NRA's 2020 gun salesman of the year award tbh

get why we've been stockpiling guns and ammo for years yet? or are we still just nuts with a war fascination? While youre worried if you can protect your family from a single intruder, I'm over here using a stack of 1000 round green tip ammo cans as a foot rest. LOL

[spooled240]

So your head is just buried in the sand? What's that like?Lmao see the irony in all of this?

[Future240]

Im not from Cali.

I already have guns. I just want another one and the current climate is making it difficult.

[S14rebuild]

Might want to do it now (as well as download 3d print files), because this is what Biden is planning to EO as much as possible if he gets in:


-All gun purchases required to go through NFA tax stamp system (which already takes 12-16 MONTHS for the limited number of NFA weapons they process)

-Failed NICS checks result in a 911 call

-Guns at home required to be in gun safes at all times (how is this being enforced?)

-gun manufacturers will be sued into non-existence

-manufacturers will not be allowed to modify or CREATE designs that defeat the ever changing gun design regulations (binary triggers, forearm braces, Franklin Armory Providence rifle with digital action)

-the right to make your own gun (milled or 3d printed) will be infringed entirely

-wont be able to import guns

-wont be able to buy "assault weapons" whatever tf those are

-future gun purchases required to be 'smart guns'

-wont be able to buy magazines

-wont be able to buy guns, ammo, or parts online

-limited to 1 gun purchase a month

-required background checks for person to person sales

-make it illegal to gift a gun to an otherwise legal gun owner

-be required to have your gun 'bought back' or registered through a slammed NFA system (which at that point will probably take 4-10 years to process)

-instate no-knock gun raids and red flag laws, especially on the 'mentally unfit'

-make it illegal for people convicted of misdemeanor 'hate crimes' to own a firearm

-eliminate the burden of duty for NICS to provide a background check within 3 days before allowing a sale to proceed

-anyone deemed unfit to have a firearm will have their door kicked down and guns forcibly removed

-states will be 'incentivized' to institute red flag laws and state level mandated gun registration

-he'll 'adequately fund' the background check system (who knows what that means coming from the party of 'defund the police')

-charge adults with crimes for training children to handle firearms

-make it illegal to arm and train a teacher

-increase surveillance on Americans and targeted enforcement of ^



>in b4 PRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFSSSSS DEBOOOOOOOONKED

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/


heres a quote I like from Joe:


Where do I get my child hunting license from? Is that what the '+' in LGBTQ+ means?

Oh I see, the shotgun shells are to protect the ducks and not bystanders.

Real big-brain stuff we're dealing with here. Totally won't result in mass unrest and civil war.


Im well educated in biden wanting to step on americans rights. Attaching the 2nd will only be the beginning.

[S14rebuild]

Im not from Cali.

I already have guns. I just want another one and the current climate is making it difficult.

Acually had family memebers as first time gun owners durning coronavirus scare....it broke my heart on how much $ they spent on a m&p sheild and 250count of .380acp

The price hike is real!!!

[deolio]

Shall we circle back to the whole “ar-15 vs a drone ain’t gonna do shit” discussion? Or are people just that scared of other people lol

If they actually did defund the police, I could see the need, but that shit isn’t gonna happen on a widespread scale.

Y’all preparing for a war that would be squashed by Uncle Sam in seconds.

[kingkilburn]

Why do you guys always let the ammo manufacturers boogieman you into buying shit? Clinton didn't take your guns. Obama didn't take your guns. Biden isn't taking your guns.

Trump on the other hand...

I look forward to getting ba tavor or some sort and some sort of bolt action marksmanship focused rifle in the future. Maybe an old thompson and an AK just because.
Defund the police. Fund local gun ranges and firearm ownership education. The future leftists want.

[Future240]

Acually had family memebers as first time gun owners durning coronavirus scare....it broke my heart on how much $ they spent on a m&p sheild and 250count of .380acp

The price hike is real!!!


Bro some ranges here stopped selling ammo to shoot with.

I am hoping it will pass. I am concerned since dems control the house and might control the senate.

I think lefty gun owners should be really be speaking up.

[kingkilburn]

I do wish neoliberals would shut up about common sense gun control when they have no fucking clue what they're talking about. There are solutions out there and they don't include ammo capacity limits, bans on suppressors, insanity about stocks and grips, or California's micro stamping vaporware.

[!Zar!]

#leftcantmeme

"the left can't meme thread" of zilvia

The right can't election.

[S14rebuild]

Shall we circle back to the whole ?ar-15 vs a drone ain?t gonna do shit? discussion? Or are people just that scared of other people lol

If they actually did defund the police, I could see the need, but that shit isn?t gonna happen on a widespread scale.

Y?all preparing for a war that would be squashed by Uncle Sam in seconds.


I dont see a "war" but id bet if true crazy gun control laws were past youd have groups/factions aka militias stand up n fight back by all means.

[S14rebuild]

I do wish neoliberals would shut up about common sense gun control when they have no fucking clue what they're talking about. There are solutions out there and they don't include ammo capacity limits, bans on suppressors, insanity about stocks and grips, or California's micro stamping vaporware.


What kinda solutions? Hard to see any that wouldnt impact law abidinf citizens

[S14rebuild]

And....... the price on 80% kits just doubled hahah

[zombiewolf513]

Why do you guys always let the ammo manufacturers boogieman you into buying shit? Clinton didn't take your guns. Obama didn't take your guns. Biden isn't taking your guns.

Trump on the other hand...

I look forward to getting ba tavor or some sort and some sort of bolt action marksmanship focused rifle in the future. Maybe an old thompson and an AK just because.
Defund the police. Fund local gun ranges and firearm ownership education. The future leftists want.

Maybe you should have looked into Biden a little harder before defending and/or voting for him then. Because you're wrong. See \/ \/ \/

Might want to do it now (as well as download 3d print files), because this is what Biden is planning to EO as much as possible if he gets in:


-All gun purchases required to go through NFA tax stamp system (which already takes 12-16 MONTHS for the limited number of NFA weapons they process)

-Failed NICS checks result in a 911 call

-Guns at home required to be in gun safes at all times (how is this being enforced?)

-gun manufacturers will be sued into non-existence

-manufacturers will not be allowed to modify or CREATE designs that defeat the ever changing gun design regulations (binary triggers, forearm braces, Franklin Armory Providence rifle with digital action)

-the right to make your own gun (milled or 3d printed) will be infringed entirely

-wont be able to import guns

-wont be able to buy "assault weapons" whatever tf those are

-future gun purchases required to be 'smart guns'

-wont be able to buy magazines

-wont be able to buy guns, ammo, or parts online

-limited to 1 gun purchase a month

-required background checks for person to person sales

-make it illegal to gift a gun to an otherwise legal gun owner

-be required to have your gun 'bought back' or registered through a slammed NFA system (which at that point will probably take 4-10 years to process)

-instate no-knock gun raids and red flag laws, especially on the 'mentally unfit'

-make it illegal for people convicted of misdemeanor 'hate crimes' to own a firearm

-eliminate the burden of duty for NICS to provide a background check within 3 days before allowing a sale to proceed

-anyone deemed unfit to have a firearm will have their door kicked down and guns forcibly removed

-states will be 'incentivized' to institute red flag laws and state level mandated gun registration

-he'll 'adequately fund' the background check system (who knows what that means coming from the party of 'defund the police')

-charge adults with crimes for training children to handle firearms

-make it illegal to arm and train a teacher

-increase surveillance on Americans and targeted enforcement of ^



>in b4 PRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOFFFFSSSSS DEBOOOOOOOONKED

https://joebiden.com/gunsafety/


heres a quote I like from Joe:
Federal law prevents hunters from hunting migratory game birds with more than three shells in their shotgun. That means our federal law does more to protect ducks than children. It's wrong.

Where do I get my child hunting license from? Is that what the '+' in LGBTQ+ means?

Oh I see, the shotgun shells are to protect the ducks and not bystanders.

Real big-brain stuff we're dealing with here. Totally won't result in mass unrest and civil war.

EFFECTIVELY bans guns

[BryanSayWhat]

Shall we circle back to the whole ?ar-15 vs a drone ain?t gonna do shit? discussion? Or are people just that scared of other people lol

If they actually did defund the police, I could see the need, but that shit isn?t gonna happen on a widespread scale.

Y?all preparing for a war that would be squashed by Uncle Sam in seconds.If you only understood the loss of infrastructure and civilian casualties involved with drones, tanks, missiles and jets...

If drones worked the way you and others thought they did, we wouldn't still be in the Middle East for the now 20th year. Your quotation simply lacks the understanding of current, or past insurgencies from around the world.

I do wish neoliberals would shut up about common sense gun control when they have no fucking clue what they're talking about. There are solutions out there and they don't include ammo capacity limits, bans on suppressors, insanity about stocks and grips, or California's micro stamping vaporware.

What kinda solutions? Hard to see any that wouldnt impact law abidinf citizensActually addressing mental health and areas with high homicide rates? Both can be done without any "common sense gun control reform" and (imo) would be greatly more effective in actually reducing firearm deaths.

[S14rebuild]

Actually addressing mental health and areas with high homicide rates? Both can be done without any "common sense gun control reform" and (imo) would be greatly more effective in actually reducing firearm deaths.

Agreed, but neither are gun control lol

They are addressing other issuses. We have a mental heath crisis here in america. This has been by far proven during this pandemic.

Its the old tune that is 100% true

Guns dont kill people, people kill people..

A firearm is only a tool. Up to the user on how its used.

[Green Arrow]

The right can't election.

Your geriatric candidate literally had 10 people at his " you know, the thing", Also, he introduced his granddaughter as his dead son so....

Trump had millions attend his events this campaign season, while Kamala didnt make it past the primaries and Sleepy Joe hid out in the basement.

[kingkilburn]

What kinda solutions? Hard to see any that wouldnt impact law abidinf citizens

I try to build a bridge of understanding and you can't get out of your own way.

Do you suppose the gun violence stems from the existence of guns or the socioeconomic conditions that lead to the violence? Does prohibiting the guns(which doesn't remove them, only criminalizes possession) lower the rate of violence? The only area of benefit there is cool down periods on pistols actually clamping down on crimes of passion. Almost all the rest of existing limits on ownership are nonsense. You can't add to the lethality of a near mach speed metal projectile with a vertical grip or telescoping stock on the firearm.


In the real world most of these politicians never see gun control does absolutely nothing for the prevention of violent crime. People don't commit normal crime with long guns, so obviously all the scare tactics about "weapons of war" should be irrelevant. They need to tackle mental health and urban + rural employment deserts. Address contributing factors not the means of the violence.

Require local law enforcement to check up on red flags in attempted gun purchases. Nearly all of these fucking mass shootings should have been stopped at "guy that wasn't allowed to have guns tried to get guns". We already have the systems in place but LEOs have undesirables to harass and little incentive to follow through.

[S14rebuild]

I try to build a bridge of understanding and you can't get out of your own way.

Do you suppose the gun violence stems from the existence of guns or the socioeconomic conditions that lead to the violence? Does prohibiting the guns(which doesn't remove them, only criminalizes possession) lower the rate of violence? The only area of benefit there is cool down periods on pistols actually clamping down on crimes of passion. Almost all the rest of existing limits on ownership are nonsense. You can't add to the lethality of a near mach speed metal projectile with a vertical grip or telescoping stock on the firearm.


In the real world most of these politicians never see gun control does absolutely nothing for the prevention of violent crime. People don't commit normal crime with long guns, so obviously all the scare tactics about "weapons of war" should be irrelevant. They need to tackle mental health and urban + rural employment deserts. Address contributing factors not the means of the violence.

Require local law enforcement to check up on red flags in attempted gun purchases. Nearly all of these fucking mass shootings should have been stopped at "guy that wasn't allowed to have guns tried to get guns". We already have the systems in place but LEOs have undesirables to harass and little incentive to follow through.


I was in no way asking in a negative way. I was inquiring for more education. You think im some fool qnd uneducated, just vomiting on this thread. Im far from that. I acually take the time to learn qnd qsk the proper questions...hence why i asked.

Thanks for the info funny thing is i 99% agree with what you posted.

How would red flag laws be used/assigned... because it could be a tool of revenge or attack on a person aswell.

[kingkilburn]

The flags in the current system mostly revolve around criminal records and court orders, people that have shown to be a danger to themselves(mental health) and/or others(credible threats on others, felony convictions, etc). Generally if you flag you already knew you shouldn't have been trying to buy a gun, and that is usually a criminal act by itself.

I like the red flag laws some places are trying that would seek to temporarily remove firearms from someone that has shown to be a danger.

Sending this stuff through the courts rather than some political appointment office I think keeps it more open and honest. This is definitely something requiring a lot of care. False reports and abuse of power should be harshly punished. You could easily ruin someone.

[kingkilburn]

So we're talking about flagging people in background checks before purchase and petitioning the court on existing ownership, if that's not clear. I know I can post some fragmented shit sometimes.

[Green Arrow]

If flagging works anything like the green/red rating system that's used here, the red flagging will be a circus. I went from like 10 green dots to like 6 red ones. Because the facts in my post hurt someone's feelings.

[zombiewolf513]

I like the red flag laws some places are trying that would seek to temporarily remove firearms from someone that has shown to be a danger.

SAY HER NAME! BREONNA TAYLOR!!!! (repeat to the end of time)

If flagging works anything like the green/red rating system that's used here, the red flagging will be a circus. I went from like 10 green dots to like 6 red ones. Because the facts in my post hurt someone's feelings.

Shows you what they really think about the 'unity' they preach :cj: "be like us or be exiled"

[Green Arrow]

Now when I hover over it..." You're not welcome here anymore." Wow. lol.

[zombiewolf513]

Well that's what you get for conducting the Trump Train and sharing your opinions, bigot.

[kingkilburn]

If flagging works anything like the green/red rating system that's used here, the red flagging will be a circus. I went from like 10 green dots to like 6 red ones. Because the facts in my post hurt someone's feelings.

Considering that the ownership of this forum is more conservative than anymore posting here you're complaining about nothing. If your rep was unwarranted it would easily be green with two mouse clicks.

[zombiewolf513]

^^^Found the cry baby

[Phlip]

Considering that the ownership of this forum is more conservative than anymore posting here you're complaining about nothing. If your rep was unwarranted it would easily be green with two mouse clicks.

^^^ Can confirm

[S14rebuild]

So we're talking about flagging people in background checks before purchase and petitioning the court on existing ownership, if that's not clear. I know I can post some fragmented shit sometimes.


Red flags prior to gun owner ship is kinda alread 4473 form.

Its the government running a background check on a firearm purchase. Even for me i beleve all gun purchase transactions should run thru an ffl/4473 approval.

As for red flag laws like others above have posted, are concerning with already firearm owners, hurt feelings, assholes and revenge will be free for all.


Same as people filing false childabuse/danger claims. In those case dcf doesnt showup kick open ur door qnd take ur kids no questions asked. They "investigate".

Accountablity needs tobe on the otherside of this..false filings should be followed with legal actions... freely

That i would be more open to the idea. But just anyone can call say whatever they please, and bammmm, your rights violated.

I would go so far as saying you would see hella amounts of "breanna taylor" style deaths where cops showup, no knock bullshit kick open the door and a shoot out occurs. Just for the fact the homeowner has no knowledge of this.

[S14rebuild]

^^^ Can confirm

Dont beleve this....

[kingkilburn]

Personally I think false rape accusations should come with the same penalties as a rape conviction, so you can guess how I feel about all these abuses of the authority of the system.

From what I've seen with these gun removal cases there's a whole process that appears to err on the side of not removing guns even temporarily. I think the general "defund the police"(which is really about radically reforming their roll to leave them with just police work to do) trend will make that process more accountable and transparent.

[S14rebuild]

Personally I think false rape accusations should come with the same penalties as a rape conviction, so you can guess how I feel about all these abuses of the authority of the system.

From what I've seen with these gun removal cases there's a whole process that appears to err on the side of not removing guns even temporarily. I think the general "defund the police"(which is really about radically reforming their roll to leave them with just police work to do) trend will make that process more accountable and transparent.

Agreeded apon on rape allegerations....

I wonder whats the "deciding factor" in red flag court approval?

And what would deem after the fact everything is "ok"

We all know goverment is there in 1 second to take away but its almost impossible to get it back.

Hell i have a good friend that was involved in a home invasion self defense shooting. 5 yrs later he still hasnt been given back his firearm he used to defend himself and family. He was never tried/no charges pressed was 100% justjfied. I know 1 case isnt basis for ALL but its what i see from government over n over. They take rights, never give them back.

-friend said at this point he wishes he used a hipoint instead of his custom.glock34 lol

[kingkilburn]

I don't think these red flag seizures are treated like civil asset forfeitures. If the cops take your shit assume they sold it onto the grey market or gave it to an informant. You don't want it back.

[S14rebuild]

I don't think these red flag seizures are treated like civil asset forfeitures. If the cops take your shit assume they sold it onto the grey market or gave it to an informant. You don't want it back.


Was more or less sayn if the did confiscate your firearms, im sure it would be an interesting process on getn them back. Once proven you are no "threat" i just see it all as too many ifs and whats.... scary to me


We can discuss these ideas with intelligence, i see this as biging to small for the democrats.....they want way more then what were discussing

[Future240]

Dont beleve this....

Whether you believe it or not, I also can confirm.

[zombiewolf513]

Lol at the idiot threatening to send my comments in this thread to the USMC HAHAHAHAHA

[zombiewolf513]

Your geriatric candidate literally had 10 people at his " you know, the thing"

I can't even imagine the levels of smug on Elizabeth Warren's face.

[RalliartRsX]

......can trump even afford a recount ?

Its not close enough for states to pick up the tab and it seems like burning cash knowing full well recounts sway only 1-200 votes....not a swing of 10-100k

[KA24DESOneThree]

I'm buying more guns because I don't have enough guns. I'll have to get property in AZ or NV for what I really want, though.

I also believe the Dems will attempt more "common sense" gun control rather than addressing the root causes of both drug violence and mass shootings. One's easy and can be packaged and sold to blue-leaning city-dwellers, one's hard and has to be packaged and sold to everyone.

s14, have your friend call a gun rights attorney. $2k and he'll have his gun back.

[Future240]

......can trump even afford a recount ?

Its not close enough for states to pick up the tab and it seems like burning cash knowing full well recounts sway only 1-200 votes....not a swing of 10-100k

Of course. Like Mexico did for the wall he will simply make the democrats pay for it. :cops:

[S14rebuild]

I'm buying more guns because I don't have enough guns. I'll have to get property in AZ or NV for what I really want, though.

I also believe the Dems will attempt more "common sense" gun control rather than addressing the root causes of both drug violence and mass shootings. One's easy and can be packaged and sold to blue-leaning city-dwellers, one's hard and has to be packaged and sold to everyone.

s14, have your friend call a gun rights attorney. $2k and he'll have his gun back.



Yea. He said for $2k they can keep it and hill buy another.

M107a1 would sure be nice...reachn out and touching(even though .338 would be better)

[S14rebuild]

......can trump even afford a recount ?

Its not close enough for states to pick up the tab and it seems like burning cash knowing full well recounts sway only 1-200 votes....not a swing of 10-100k


He asking for donations and gonna hold campaign style rallies for support on recounts...


I get a text message atleast twice aday from his team asking...

[Future240]

Yea. He said for $2k they can keep it and hill buy another.

M107a1 would sure be nice...reachn out and touching(even though .338 would be better)

https://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=181481&page=12

[RalliartRsX]

Actually if you look at the fine print

On the donation page, first highlighted by the Journal, there is a disclaimer that says 50 percent of any contribution will go toward the general election campaign debt retirement and 50 percent for the campaign's recount account.

:smh:

https://secure.winred.com/djt/election-defense-fund?utm_medium=social&utm_source=djt_fb&utm_campaign=20201105_10_election-defense-fund_teamtrump

[RalliartRsX]

He asking for donations and gonna hold campaign style rallies for support on recounts...


I get a text message atleast twice aday from his team asking...


So, no thats "50%" incorrect
1) Why should American people support his frivolous lawsuits?? Isn't he some sort of Billionaire?? Why can't he pay for it himself?? Didn't his campaign raise a boat load of money already??
2) Read above

Fine print state atleast 50 % will go to running down campaign debt. And with how shittily the campaign funds were managed on trump side, for every $1 you spent, the return would be in the negatives.....so yeah, goodluck with that lol!

[!Zar!]

Your geriatric candidate literally had 10 people at his " you know, the thing"... Trump had millions attend his events this campaign season...
Know how I know you don't believe in Covid?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmMSXlPVkAApEyd.jpg

[RalliartRsX]

P.S

People who support trump
- Fuck! Look at all those maskless people supporting trumps departure. Dispicable!

trump announces rally
- Fuck yeah dude! We in! No masks! Us yelling "trump trump trump!!" Fuck your feelings!!!" Herd immunity!! Rarr rarrrrrr rarrrr reeeehhh reehhh reehhhhh!!!

Let that sink in....

[RalliartRsX]

So where is the evidence again?? I guess they are still fabricating the evidence ands just need more time to make it.......seem....legit??

They got 21 days to come up with something.........or well, atleast get the paperwork right



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EmZWHxHW8AAmxT3?format=jpg&name=large

[!Zar!]

Lol at the idiot threatening to send my comments in this thread to the USMC HAHAHAHAHA

For being a Marine, you're not all that sharp. No wonder why they're still saying, "We're Looking for a Few Good Men."

[zombiewolf513]

It's not like Marines have a reputation of being jarheads or anything, leaf.

Every time I get my hopes up that you girls will come through with some funny bantz, you just disappoint me with the most bottom tier cringe.

Joe Biden doesn't like smart guys, anyway:
iDUa8Sz6tW8

[RalliartRsX]

Can you actually play the full video and not just 6 secs of it?? Out of fucking context.....

Why do you have to post lies and mischaracterization to further your point when they are so far from the truth??.

Citing Trump’s contention that his federal tax payments have been low in many years because he’s “smart,” Biden sneered, “Well I’m sick and tired of smart guys, when they leave the rest of us to pick up the tab.”

[zombiewolf513]

Are you genetically predisposed to lacking a funny bone?

[KA24DESOneThree]

Yea. He said for $2k they can keep it and hill buy another.

M107a1 would sure be nice...reachn out and touching(even though .338 would be better)

.338 is my jam. Sako TRG-42 in .338 Lapua with a Leupold Mark 8- $10k+ worth of rifle and glass but pumpkins can be exploded at 1500 yards. I fucking hate pumpkins.

Maybe a custom rifle chambered in .338 Norma Mag. Doesn't go transonic until 1750yds. ULD bullets and fits in a long Rem action.

All of the above said... there's something about letting loose a string of 5.56 that kicks as soft as 9mm but can reach out 800yds.

Remember: a lot of people turned out to vote for someone who wasn't Trump. A lot of people voted for Trump not because he's Trump, but because he's not a Democrat.

The time to revamp our elections is now. It's not 2023. It's literally right now. We need to get in touch with our lawmakers and ask them to change the process.

[!Zar!]

Are you genetically predisposed to lacking a funny bone?

Are you genetically predisposed to buy a Dodge Charger?

[zombiewolf513]

Yeah. Im one of 'The Dependables' Hillary was ranting about. Problem?

[kingkilburn]

Trump fired Esper via tweet. Makes you wonder what Esper refused to do.

The General Services Administration is refusing Biden's transition too. What a shit show.

[kingkilburn]

It's like they want to see the country fail.

[RalliartRsX]

Are you genetically predisposed to lacking a funny bone?

Fair enough...yeah that one went over my head lol

[deolio]

Man if they just keep fighting the transition and refusing to gtfo the White House I could see shit getting real hairy. Trump supporters following their great leader and thinking laws don?t apply to them either. Running around the streets with 6-shooters in their right hand, their chained up cousin in the left, and chew drool running down their chin as they cook up some new excuse to rationalize Trump?s unlawful seizure of power. :rofl:

Oh America, you silly bitch, what will you do next?

[S14rebuild]

https://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=181481&page=12


Seeing that ar-10 California compliant makes me cry

[S14rebuild]

So, no thats "50%" incorrect
1) Why should American people support his frivolous lawsuits?? Isn't he some sort of Billionaire?? Why can't he pay for it himself?? Didn't his campaign raise a boat load of money already??
2) Read above

Fine print state atleast 50 % will go to running down campaign debt. And with how shittily the campaign funds were managed on trump side, for every $1 you spent, the return would be in the negatives.....so yeah, goodluck with that lol!


Why u telln me..i know this and agree its a shitty thing todo...yes i donated to his campaign, no i wont to fund his lawsuits.

If someone eles does so be it. Not passing judgment

[!Zar!]

Seeing that ar-10 California compliant makes me cry

More or less than Trump losing the election?

[S14rebuild]

.338 is my jam. Sako TRG-42 in .338 Lapua with a Leupold Mark 8- $10k+ worth of rifle and glass but pumpkins can be exploded at 1500 yards. I fucking hate pumpkins.

Maybe a custom rifle chambered in .338 Norma Mag. Doesn't go transonic until 1750yds. ULD bullets and fits in a long Rem action.

All of the above said... there's something about letting loose a string of 5.56 that kicks as soft as 9mm but can reach out 800yds.

Remember: a lot of people turned out to vote for someone who wasn't Trump. A lot of people voted for Trump not because he's Trump, but because he's not a Democrat.

The time to revamp our elections is now. It's not 2023. It's literally right now. We need to get in touch with our lawmakers and ask them to change the process.



Almost picked up a ruger precision rifle in 338lapula just for shits and gigs. Im in south florida, no where to really stretch it out

Took a trip to central florida, found a place with 600yrds. Guy there had an m82, i begged, he obliged, 2 rounds and its all ive ever wanted..but 8k is not just there to piss on a closet decoration lol

[S14rebuild]

More or less than Trump losing the election?

Rights>anything eles

Ur from Canada...u should know

[!Zar!]

Rights>anything eles

Ur from Canada...u should know

U Ryte.

Fixed.

[S14rebuild]

U Ryte.

Fixed.

Lmao.......

[KA24DESOneThree]

Anyone else find it fun that the potential replacement SecDef is former ASecDef for special operations and low intensity conflicts who was also a Senior Director for Counter Terrorism and Transnational Threats?

You righties have had your fun spreading conspiracy shit. Time for those of us who aren't heavily medicated to weigh in.

PS JK but seriously

[zombiewolf513]

What did GA Governor Brian Kemp mean by this?
Georgia's election result will include legally cast ballots - and ONLY legally cast ballots. Period.

https://twitter.com/BrianKempGA/status/1325890553536516097



Biden voters' chickens already coming home to roost:
https://twitter.com/JoshLekach/status/1325485182929940480

https://i.ibb.co/WsWLXvP/Black-Lambs-Matter.png

[Phlip]

It means Bruan Kemp's own Secretary of State is apparently crooked.

https://patch.com/georgia/across-ga/ga-election-lt-gov-says-no-fraud-ballot-counting-continues

But in context, it is also probably a giant ass nothingburger that some people are grabbing at, despite calmoer voices in the room CONTINUING to repeat the apparent chorus we will hear for the next four years "Many declared voter fraud, but Georgia officials have said there has been no evidence of the sort."


I'm also pretty sure Joe won't run for reelection and might not even finish his first term, then the real show begins. We will hear years upon years of dog whistles about Kamala's citizenship before the House flips in the next midterm and she is impeached for impersonating a black woman. The case won't be compelling or rooted in anthing truthful, but the saying goes that "a lie is running around the block before the truth has even tied its shoes," so that will completely ape the whole story and we'll forget about politics in politics for a little while.

[S14rebuild]

^then we get the "i told you so" TRUMP 2024 tour lol

[Phlip]

^then we get the "i told you so" TRUMP 2024 tour lol

I think it will be Donald Jr. to try it, but the party will not coalesce behind him.

[S14rebuild]

I think it will be Donald Jr. to try it, but the party will not coalesce behind him.


I dont think either would stand a chance...devided the party to much and most cringe at the "trump" name.

I do think trump did allt for the rep. party and showed a solid pathway.

But..i dont see any other strong candidate for them to crown either...

[Phlip]

I dont think either would stand a chance...devided the party to much and most cringe at the "trump" name.

I do think trump did allt for the rep. party and showed a solid pathway.

But..i dont see any other strong candidate for them to crown either...

In 2024, Trump will be what, 78? The rumors swirling of him usually being propped up on Adderall and shitting himself exist whether he wants them to or not. I couldn't have imagined him making it through another 4 years consecutive and especially can't imagine him making it through another campaign and presidency in four years. It seemed most like he was trying to fast track his way to a political dynasty like the Kennedy or Bush families. It is obvious that he has divided his own party and it also seems they want to get back to business as usual after he has served them a few judges they think will be amenable to their policy positions.

[KA24DESOneThree]

They have no strong candidate because they have no real platform.

Smoke, mirrors, lies. Propaganda spread by young people to old people, fact-checked by few and even fewer believe the fact-checkers.

Remember when Republicans were the party of small government? They let their xenophobia and religion get the better of them.

[RalliartRsX]

In 2024, Trump will be what, 78? The rumors swirling of him usually being propped up on Adderall and shitting himself exist whether he wants them to or not. I couldn't have imagined him making it through another 4 years consecutive and especially can't imagine him making it through another campaign and presidency in four years. It seemed most like he was trying to fast track his way to a political dynasty like the Kennedy or Bush families. It is obvious that he has divided his own party and it also seems they want to get back to business as usual after he has served them a few judges they think will be amenable to their policy positions.


Yeah I do not believe it. barr, turtle and lindsay ham are all backing this voter fraud rhetroric without any evidence....what...so...ever

This ain't over by a longshot...

[S14rebuild]

Yeah I do not believe it. barr, turtle and lindsay ham are all backing this voter fraud rhetroric without any evidence....what...so...ever

This ain't over by a longshot...

The party is legily divided more on the fraud/lawsuit status

Keep sayn no evidence....
Zombie has posted shitload of info, its out there if you wanna be open to it.

I would say theres more info available to the possibility of fraud. Very little transparency... once u put doubt in peoples mind it sets up crazy ideas

Is it good enough? Who knows. Not for US to decided.

Remember trump n his lawyers dont need to convince you.
I would beleve they arent showing up in court with twitter pictures lol


Iv distanced myself from it all cause id really love to see trumps true evidence, not what is shown on youtube. Legal evidence please

[Phlip]

The party is legily divided more on the fraud/lawsuit status

Keep sayn no evidence....
Zombie has posted shitload of info....

Is it good enough? Who knows. Not for US to decided.

Tweets and insults are not "evidence" or even particularly compelling. I will go with the actions courts have taken thus far for my cues on whether or not there has been any credible evidence presented. I would love to think that the Republican-led legislatures would be HOWLING with proof that there was fraud or ill deeds if they had it.
Why, if the election was being stolen or cheated, would they stop with just the presidency and not get rid of McConnell? Why aim for such a short margin, or even a tie, in the Senate? Seems kind of foolish to cheat just for a stalemate.

[S14rebuild]

Tweets and insults are not "evidence" or even particularly compelling. I will go with the actions courts have taken thus far for my cues on whether or not there has been any credible evidence presented. I would love to think that the Republican-led legislatures would be HOWLING with proof that there was fraud or ill deeds if they had it.
Why, if the election was being stolen or cheated, would they stop with just the presidency and not get rid of McConnell? Why aim for such a short margin, or even a tie, in the Senate? Seems kind of foolish to cheat just for a stalemate.

I editted my post.... still working on my comments

Its not the Republicans as awhole yelln fraud, its TRUMP. his lawsuits him delcaring fraud.

I dont know, not in the group to tell.

For me.. i accepted the election results untill proven otherwise.... that simple

[RalliartRsX]

I editted my post.... still working on my comments

Its not the Republicans as awhole yelln fraud, its TRUMP. his lawsuits him delcaring fraud.

I dont know, not in the group to tell.

For me.. i accepted the election results untill proven otherwise.... that simple

No offense, but you obviously did not read my post

Mitch McConnell is calling for this idea of "LEGAL VOTES"
Bill Barr--->same rhetoric
Lindsay Graham - same shit
Brian Kemp - Same shit

Those are all VERY prominent republicans......

So tell me again, is it really only trump yelling at the clouds??

And no, I am not the one they need to convince. I am well aware. BUT that is the issue; why are we willfully trying to convince folks on the right of something which isn't even remotely true WITHOUT evidence??

If they had the evidence, I promise you, they would be waving the shit as high as possible on the tallest flag poll out there.

You don't scream "wolf" without the actual wolf....

trump and his team are 0/10 in court cases. I even posted a pic of one of the rulings above. They can't even get the initial filings correct.

This just seems like a scare tactic to rile up the base to make sure the gop keeps in control of of various key state races.....

[zombiewolf513]

Tweets and insults are not "evidence" or even particularly compelling.

First of all, I never claimed everything I posted was "evidence". More like indicators that the election needs an audit. Maybe if you scanned through it, instead of writing it off, you'd see there's not just speculation but plenty of verified instances of 'glitches', errors, and fraud being acted upon by enforcement officials.



There's no amount of 'proof' that would satisfy the left, anyway. They just want what they want, country and its values be damned. Even if that means ignoring that the hallmark of our country is under attack. I'm not saying the right are angels with respect to integrity, but the left has none.

If kicking out poll watchers and blocking the windows while only one party 'counts votes' isn't dubious and worthy of investigation, then I don't know what is. And since that actually happened, how is anyone supposed to prove fraud happened in that room?! If they, hypothetically, filled out official ballots for registered voters that didnt vote, or rescanned ballots somehow- how are you supposed to prove that if there was no poll watchers?


I even posted a pic of one of the rulings above.
You are just so illiterate. What you posted is the court of appeals asking for specific information. That's not saying no evidence is available, and it definitely doesn't say that the case is over, numb nuts.

[S14rebuild]

No offense, but you obviously did not read my post

Mitch McConnell is calling for this idea of "LEGAL VOTES"
Bill Barr--->same rhetoric
Lindsay Graham - same shit
Brian Kemp - Same shit

Those are all VERY prominent republicans......

So tell me again, is it really only trump yelling at the clouds??

And no, I am not the one they need to convince. I am well aware. BUT that is the issue; why are we willfully trying to convince folks on the right of something which isn't even remotely true WITHOUT evidence??

If they had the evidence, I promise you, they would be waving the shit as high as possible on the tallest flag poll out there.

You don't scream "wolf" without the actual wolf....

trump and his team are 0/10 in court cases. I even posted a pic of one of the rulings above. They can't even get the initial filings correct.

This just seems like a scare tactic to rile up the base to make sure the gop keeps in control of of various key state races.....


I did read your post. You have Republicans backing only trump...that is all. They are sayn voter/ballot fraud...wouldnt that consist of the ENTIRE BALLOT?

I would say go after the big fish and u get the small ones along the way.

We are both on the outside looking in. We can only assume from our biased postions;)

Your court paper u posted showed multiple issuse why the filing was rejected..with out pulln it back up wasnt lack of proper evidence the last one on the list?

Again. None of us outside trump and his legal team truly know what proof, if any they truly have.

Im not a conspiracy theoriest, or clam this is inside bullshit, but im gonna sit back and watch in unfold.

[SupaDoopa]

Have of the farfetched shit some of you are putting together is laughable. The votes will be recounted and investigated. The whole mail-in thing is fucking stupid to begin with. If for one second you thought that was a smart idea, you're a fucking idiot. You know how easy it is to manipulate something on paper? Ask the dudes out there making counterfeit bills that are passing. It doesn't take a rocket scientist. Ironic that the votes swayed so fucking heavily, too. If you think I'm some Trumpist with a mullet and some sort of American flag tattoo because of what I just said, fine. But I don't side with any side. I side with the side I think is the best fit. There was DEFINITELY shady shit going on in this election and it was extremely obvious. Who is going to suffer? We do, folks. Sorry to burst your bubble. The same shit when all of you clams were excited for Burnie. How about you shut your suck hole and actually READ the agendas before you sit here and spray paint shit with BLM and BIDEN all over the place not knowing what any of the shit means. You're sheep. You do what everyone else does without freethinking and doing any sort of investigative research. Can't blame you, though. Half of you fucking idiots think your 240's are worth more than sixteen bucks and a bottle of Axe spray-on deodorant.

[midnight zenki]

Tweets and insults are not "evidence" or even particularly compelling. I will go with the actions courts have taken thus far for my cues on whether or not there has been any credible evidence presented. I would love to think that the Republican-led legislatures would be HOWLING with proof that there was fraud or ill deeds if they had it.
Why, if the election was being stolen or cheated, would they stop with just the presidency and not get rid of McConnell? Why aim for such a short margin, or even a tie, in the Senate? Seems kind of foolish to cheat just for a stalemate.

Occam's Razor in effect.

[!Zar!]

blahblahblah

You do realize mail-in voting has been going on for a while, right?

[RalliartRsX]

Its amazing the ignorance in regards to mail in voting. They literally all have bar codes you can track online

[S14rebuild]

You do realize mail-in voting has been going on for a while, right?

And every year there is some level of tampering and fraud.

Hes speaking to this election in a MASS mail in ballot

[zombiewolf513]

You do realize mail-in voting has been going on for a while, right?

You do realize that 'covid' happened, so mail-in voting expanded to unprecedented levels, right?

Instead of saying the first thought capable of penetrating your thick skull, maybe focus on your master of international disguise, Justin Trudeau, instead.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/800/cpsprodpb/13517/production/_108872197_trudeau_blackface_3_comp.jpg


Hell, Biden even admitted they put together the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics:

WGRnhBmHYN0

>in b4 he misspoke or out of context
So is he old and incapable of saying what he means, or did he mean what he said? Please, share proof of any alternate context.

[SupaDoopa]

It's like talking to people who refuse to just use common sense for a bit.

Yes, you fucking idiot. I know mail-in has been a thing for some time. I also know water is electrically conductive and I know what the difference is between a T-shirt and a sweatshirt. Save the obvious statements for someone as simple-minded as you.

Let's try to explain this another way. THIS election used MASS mail-in's that were not VERIFIED. As long as there was some sort of barcode, they were counted. Didn't matter if they were missing signatures or shit was sketch - they counted them. Guess what nearly ALL of those votes helped? Biden. Did you find heaps of Biden votes in trash cans or uncounted? Nope. The evidence is a few pages back. If you're too ignorant to click through them all or educate yourself on what's happening in the re-counts, that's on you. Maybe you can just ignore COVID-19 exists or that you are a valued human in the bigger picture of the government. You're shit. We're shit.

[CrimsonRockett]

You do realize mail-in voting has been going on for a while, right?

Let's continue to pretend that our current president never voted by mail.

Its amazing the ignorance in regards to mail in voting. They literally all have bar codes you can track online

Hey, I can afford to take time off work and stand in a line for hours on end to vote in person. Everyone else should be able to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and do the same. Why do poor people choose to be poor? They're so dumb. Living in poverty is a choice.

And every year there is some level of tampering and fraud.

Hes speaking to this election in a MASS mail in ballot

Every year there is in fact some level of tampering and fraud. Those people should be prosecuted regardless of political affiliation. What the republican party is trying to do is delegitimize all mail-in ballots.

Tell you what, if republicans do in fact find actual evidence of voter fraud, please remove those ballots from this election. They'll have to find over 48,000 instances of voter fraud in PA alone.

[zombiewolf513]

Let's continue to pretend that our current president never voted by mail.

Absentee (what trump did): Request ballot -> get mailed ballot -> mail ballot back

Mail-in: Ballots get mailed to everyone, their previous homeowners, and their dead dog -> mail ballot back

Yes. You put both in the mail. BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PROCESS.

Hey, I can afford to take time off work and stand in a line for hours on end to vote in person...

Can we all agree voting day should be a national holiday?


Every year there is in fact some level of tampering and fraud. Those people should be prosecuted regardless of political affiliation. What the republican party is trying to do is delegitimize all mail-in ballots.

Not all. The mass mail in voting opens the door wide for fraud on the individual level (like destroying ballots youre supposed to collect, filling out your dependent parents ballot out wrong, mailing in your dead dogs ballot, mailing in your neighbors ballot, taking ballots to Canada, buying votes and ballot harvesting, etc.). There are so many ways to defraud the system at this massive scale. Making it virtually impossible to find out what the actual extent is. I feel like you guys know this, but youre choosing to ignore it because it benefits you in some way. All we want is a fair election.

[S14rebuild]

Tell you what, if republicans do in fact find actual evidence of voter fraud, please remove those ballots from this election. They'll have to find over 48,000 instances of voter fraud in PA alone.


Whos to say they wont?

Not wide spread voter fraud. More so targeted voter fraud.

Im waiting for the courts just like everyone eles is. But the longer this goes on, more and more abdominalities come up.



Just learned..they are going after 450,000 votes in Pennsylvania. In a law suit, 70 witness.... republicans were blockd from watch ballots processed and counted. All envelopes tossed.


Just what i found

[CrimsonRockett]

Absentee (what trump did): Request ballot -> get mailed ballot -> mail ballot back

Mail-in: Ballots get mailed to everyone, their previous homeowners, and their dead dog -> mail ballot back

Yes. You put both in the mail. BUT THEY ARE NOT THE SAME PROCESS.


I am aware and agree that they are not the same process.


Can we all agree voting day should be a national holiday?

Voting should be a national holiday. That still doesn't take away from the fact that the vast majority of the working class simply cannot afford to take time off.

Then, we have someone like yourself who doesn't believe in wearing a mask. I am a healthy adult male with a wife and three toddlers and no medical history of complications or serious illnesses. My mother is a diabetic and my dad has a history of lung issues caused by a job he held in the 80's-90's. I wear my mask for them. What guarantees do I have that if I were to vote in person, every other person in line will also practice social distancing and/or wear their mask? Could we maybe try drive-thru voting? That way, we vote in person, every voter can present the proper identification, we social distance, and you can continue with your choice of not wearing a mask? We all win, right?

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/11/01/texas-drive-thru-votes-harris-county/


All we want is a fair election.

We all do. Both sides need to compromise to find better and more effective solutions for people to come out and vote regardless of party preference.

One person, one vote.


Whos to say they wont?

Not wide spread voter fraud. More so targeted voter fraud.

Im waiting for the courts just like everyone eles is. But the longer this goes on, more and more abdominalities come up.



Just learned..they are going after 450,000 votes in Pennsylvania. In a law suit, 70 witness.... republicans were blockd from watch ballots processed and counted. All envelopes tossed.


Just what i found

There are both republican and democrat staff members inside while ballots are being counted/processed. I welcome them to verify every single last ballot to ensure that these were all cast by the correct individual. Ruling that these ballots were improperly processed and therefore void now means that persons vote didn't count.

[zombiewolf513]

Im waiting for the courts just like everyone eles is. But the longer this goes on, more and more abdominalities come up.


Just learned..they are going after 450,000 votes in Pennsylvania. In a law suit, 70 witness.... republicans were blockd from watch ballots processed and counted. All envelopes tossed.


The longer this goes on, the more tensions are building and any possible organized fraud is being finished and/or covered up. With scanned ballots being destroyed on the individual level, recounts are also being affected by fraud (regardless of how big or small anyone claims it is).


Why, if the election was being stolen or cheated, would they stop with just the presidency and not get rid of McConnell? Why aim for such a short margin, or even a tie, in the Senate? Seems kind of foolish to cheat just for a stalemate.

Why would 450,000 votes have only boxes checked for Joe Biden you ask? Maybe democrats didn't vote down ballot. But why would democrats stop with just the presidency and not get rid of McConnel? Why aim for such a short margin, or even a tie, in the Senate? Seems kind of foolish to turn out in historic numbers just to only vote for the Presidential race.


Then, we have someone like yourself who doesn't believe in wearing a mask. I am a healthy adult male with a wife and three toddlers and no medical history of complications or serious illnesses. My mother is a diabetic and my dad has a history of lung issues caused by a job he held in the 80's-90's. I wear my mask for them. What guarantees do I have that if I were to vote in person, every other person in line will also practice social distancing and/or wear their mask? Could we maybe try drive-thru voting? That way, we vote in person, every voter can present the proper identification, we social distance, and you can continue with your choice of not wearing a mask? We all win, right?

Saying 'i dont believe in wearing a mask' is a red herring. If I have a cold, I'll wear a mask. If I have covid, I'll stay home. I've been tested twice and passed twice, including results on the 8th after going to the polls. I'm not driving to work alone in my car and wearing the same pair dirty panties on my face all day when I'm asymptomatic. If that makes me a bad person, then fine. I'm not the one telling people with COVID, or AIDS, or TB, or the flu to go to the polls... the government is. Vote absentee if you have a fragile body or crazy ass disease. If you're deathly afraid of covid, thats on you, not me.

I don't see an issue with drive through voting aside from everyone in line touching the same screen/pen/person assisting in the vote. Its the same fallacy as any of these mask measures. Sure, you might catch 1/8 of a sneeze. But then you're going to accidentally coof into your hand, touch a door handle or someones poo particle covered cell phone without thinking. Like I pointed out with the CDC articles, the mask does nothing because every other aspect of hygiene is generally ignored by most of the disgusting population.


There are both republican and democrat staff members inside while ballots are being counted/processed. I welcome them to verify every single last ballot to ensure that these were all cast by the correct individual. Ruling that these ballots were improperly processed and therefore void now means that persons vote didn't count.

Well if they are kicked out, it calls those votes into question at the least, no? I'm not saying discard them. I'm saying they need to be verified. I want everyone to get their vote. ONE vote. The country doesn't work if ballots are falsely invalidated whether that be with a sharpy, legal process, a dickhead burning it, or someone/group cheating. The country doesn't work without a fair election.

[CrimsonRockett]

Why would 450,000 votes have only boxes checked for Joe Biden you ask? Maybe democrats didn't vote down ballot. But why would democrats stop with just the presidency and not get rid of McConnel? Why aim for such a short margin, or even a tie, in the Senate? Seems kind of foolish to turn out in historic numbers just to only vote for the Presidential race.

A famous George Carlin quote comes to mind.

"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that."

The vast majority of people choose to be ignorant. I personally sat down and read through every proposition and weighed both pros and cons before making my decision. Voting this or that way because a paid mailer from a specific political party tells me to vote a certain way would be the stupidest thing ever.

So, it's not surprising to see if people only voted for the presidency because that's the only thing they were actually informed on.

[SupaDoopa]

They only focused on the Presidency because they weren't expecting so many Senate votes to flip. There was no urgency to really worry about that at the time. Those who flipped red were surprises for the most part. They're just lucky we had some that went the other way. Otherwise, we'd be back in the same situation - a President that's a sitting duck for impeachment.

[S14rebuild]

There are both republican and democrat staff members inside while ballots are being counted/processed. I welcome them to verify every single last ballot to ensure that these were all cast by the correct individual. Ruling that these ballots were improperly processed and therefore void now means that persons vote didn't count.

That is how by law it is suppose tobe.

NOT what haplened in many voter districts...per said by trumps campaign and witness.



Simply put...doesnt matter what side you take...its clear that in Michigan, windows were covered up by paper and carboard and poll watchers were not allowed access under the law.

I dont care who votes for what but as an american, that should be a concern that us laws are being broken and no one on the left/democrats have said 1 word about it....how does that look?

[S14rebuild]

Election isnt even certified...hell trump is with in .5% of biden in arizona....

Yall acting like recounts arent coming... all trump voters and trump should just roll over and hand it all over....

Whats fair is fair..let the WHOLE process play out.


When ALL the votes have been counted and the election is certified. EVERYONE should acknowledge the winner and move forward together as americans.

[KA24DESOneThree]

We should be wary.

But we should be wary about what we should be wary about.

Twitter, Facebook, and unaccountable news organizations have done nothing but subvert what, by international standards, appears to be a legitimate election drawn out by crisis management.

We've been watching "news" in 15-second bites, narrated by untrustworthy parties. We've had a lack of context, CONSISTENTLY. We've had things explained by people who don't know the law, acting like they know the law. We've had people claiming to be one thing and actually being nothing at fucking all.

This is so incredibly frustrating for anyone who has a shred of patriotism. These fucking agents of malice going around inflaming passions for views and likes and fucking shares. Making us look like a banana republic, adding to what Mango Mussolini's done.

If there's a problem, sort it out legally. No one throws gasoline on a fire in hopes of putting it out.

[zombiewolf513]

Wow, you can say something that isn't completely fucking stupid. Congrats

[S14rebuild]

We should be wary.

But we should be wary about what we should be wary about.

Twitter, Facebook, and unaccountable news organizations have done nothing but subvert what, by international standards, appears to be a legitimate election drawn out by crisis management.

We've been watching "news" in 15-second bites, narrated by untrustworthy parties. We've had a lack of context, CONSISTENTLY. We've had things explained by people who don't know the law, acting like they know the law. We've had people claiming to be one thing and actually being nothing at fucking all.

This is so incredibly frustrating for anyone who has a shred of patriotism. These fucking agents of malice going around inflaming passions for views and likes and fucking shares. Making us look like a banana republic, adding to what Mango Mussolini's done.

If there's a problem, sort it out legally. No one throws gasoline on a fire in hopes of putting it out.



Lol you think it matters to "us". No one has to convince you....infact im willing to bet no amount of proof of voter fraud would change your position on this election.

Until evidence is submitted and realeased to the pubic by trumps legal team.... we do t know SHIT.

Funny of yall to think fb, twitter and youtube videos and co.ments is what trump is gonna walk i to court with to plead his case. Yall that small brained? Sure hope not

[S14rebuild]

Damm,,, trump with another lawsuit in Pennsylvania....man is pushn HARD lol

[KA24DESOneThree]

Lol you think it matters to "us". No one has to convince you....infact im willing to bet no amount of proof of voter fraud would change your position on this election.

Until evidence is submitted and realeased to the pubic by trumps legal team.... we do t know SHIT.

Funny of yall to think fb, twitter and youtube videos and co.ments is what trump is gonna walk i to court with to plead his case. Yall that small brained? Sure hope not

I want Trump gone from office, his name wiped from history books- because he makes our country look bad. Because he makes our country worse, not better. Believe it or not, I actually like this place. I think it was founded on noble ideals that have been usurped and perverted over the years- but I also believe it was founded by racists who had no idea how big it could get.

I want the results to be fair- to have an unfairly-elected president is what a banana republic would do. If there is bona fide evidence of true fraud, it must be prosecuted and made right. If there is "evidence" of fake fraud put forth by people attempting to monetize this election, those people should be ostracized and demonized.

This nation does not need a bunch of Twitter Army "poll watchers" taking things out of context and providing literally nothing to the greater argument. This nation does not need the incessant fucking prattling of a bunch of armchair lawyers who heard from their uncle's wife's third cousin that he saw someone in what looked like a USPS uniform throwing out what looked like ballots in a trash can in a location he can't remember. No one cares what you saw, Larry, you fat fuck looking for validation and retweets.

Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube videos are what drive Trump. He inflames the people, they fan the flames, he revels in their support and the retweets and the likes. Then the people make things up to support his narrative, and other people like and share and believe those things to support the man who they've built a cult of personality around.

[!Zar!]

Yes, you fucking idiot.
Woah there Canada. Temper, temper.

Get as grumpy as you may. Your assumptions are nothing but that. Sure, you've traded in your racist cap for a MAGA one. Please come through with some empirical evidence, and not your arm-chair theories sent to you by 5g satellites.

[!Zar!]

Biden better watch out. zombiewolf513 and SupaWhatever are HOT on his tail.

BIG DOGS IN THE HOUSE.

[jdmgtom]

I want Trump gone from office, his name wiped from history books- because he makes our country look bad.

Some ones salty.. people like you make our country look bad. Must suck to be as miserable as you.

[zombiewolf513]

Some ones salty.. people like you make our country look bad. Must suck to be as miserable as you.

jdmgrom had one bar of green rep before this post

Woah there Canada. Temper, temper.


Lol, what a pussy. This kid talks shit on Americans, but changes his location from Canada to North Korea after getting raked like the leaf he is.

... his name wiped from history books- because he makes our country look bad. And other stupid shit

Moment of clarity gone.

[CrimsonRockett]

I want Trump gone from office, his name wiped from history books- because he makes our country look bad. Because he makes our country worse, not better. Believe it or not, I actually like this place. I think it was founded on noble ideals that have been usurped and perverted over the years- but I also believe it was founded by racists who had no idea how big it could get.

Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

I want his name in our history books. The same way countries around the world are well aware of their own history and wrongdoing. I won't make the Hitler/Germany comparison because the difference between Trump and Hitler was that Hitler was actually successful.

Just because president cheeto makes us look bad doesn't mean we should pretend as if this never happened. The only way our democracy works is if we hold people accountable for their actions.

Our current pay to play system is fucked. Trickle down economics doesn't work. How about everybody just pay their fair fucking share? If you don't want to give people "free" healthcare, how about we make it affordable. Etcetera etcetera.

Believe it or not, the more rational thinking people don't actually want to take your guns away. People can't seem to admit that we have a problem with mental health and responsible gun ownership.

[S14rebuild]

I want Trump gone from office, his name wiped from history books- because he makes our country look bad. Because he makes our country worse, not better. Believe it or not, I actually like this place. I think it was founded on noble ideals that have been usurped and perverted over the years- but I also believe it was founded by racists who had no idea how big it could get.

I want the results to be fair- to have an unfairly-elected president is what a banana republic would do. If there is bona fide evidence of true fraud, it must be prosecuted and made right. If there is "evidence" of fake fraud put forth by people attempting to monetize this election, those people should be ostracized and demonized.

This nation does not need a bunch of Twitter Army "poll watchers" taking things out of context and providing literally nothing to the greater argument. This nation does not need the incessant fucking prattling of a bunch of armchair lawyers who heard from their uncle's wife's third cousin that he saw someone in what looked like a USPS uniform throwing out what looked like ballots in a trash can in a location he can't remember. No one cares what you saw, Larry, you fat fuck looking for validation and retweets.

Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, YouTube videos are what drive Trump. He inflames the people, they fan the flames, he revels in their support and the retweets and the likes. Then the people make things up to support his narrative, and other people like and share and believe those things to support the man who they've built a cult of personality around.


Well there we go. :picardfp:

So your the type that will never see facts, find the truth, or be non-partisan.

Ill ignore your posts from now on.

Carry on...

[!Zar!]

Some ones salty.. people like you make our country look bad. Must suck to be as miserable as you.
Bye.

jdmgrom had one bar of green rep before this post
Fixed.



Lol, what a pussy. This kid talks shit on Americans, but changes his location from Canada to North Korea after getting raked like the leaf he is.
What if I told you I was from Guantanamo Bay?

[!Zar!]

Trump is a symbol of hatred, inequality, bigotry, and a threat to democracy.

Reasons enough why he's a horrible person.

[SupaDoopa]

I think the part you fail to quote because it makes you look good is that I don't support one or the other exclusively. This is in terms of parties or nominees. The problem I have is with how fucked the system is and how it was manipulated. Again, if you think this shit was fair, you're just wrong. Shit, back in Portugal where I'm from, they'd kill your ass by firing squad for shit that goes down here. That's how the old school powerhouses take care of issues. This whole snowflake 'OMG NOT X, I'M ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ BECAUSE WE'RE ALL ONE' mentality is fucking lunacy. Most of y'all drones that won't survive unless you eat all the bullshit the news feeds you.

Newsflash. The Dem's own the newstations. You see what they want you to see. That's all I gotta say about that.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Well there we go. :picardfp:

So your the type that will never see facts, find the truth, or be non-partisan.

Ill ignore your posts from now on.

Carry on...

You were on a path to cogency and then you done thrown it all away because the moment anyone says they think Trump was a shit president, you forget to put your twisted red panties away.

lol "people like me" make this country look bad. Two tax-paying businesses, more than 20 employees paid well, millions in product sold per year. Supports rational decision-making and eloquence in the public sphere. Wants the best for my fellow man. "You say b-bad thing about D-dear Leader and now it make me not like you." Bite me.

[S14rebuild]

You were on a path to cogency and then you done thrown it all away because the moment anyone says they think Trump was a shit president, you forget to put your twisted red panties away.

lol "people like me" make this country look bad. Two tax-paying businesses, more than 20 employees paid well, millions in product sold per year. Supports rational decision-making and eloquence in the public sphere. Wants the best for my fellow man. "You say b-bad thing about D-dear Leader and now it make me not like you." Bite me.

1-im not here to seek your approval i dont give a fuck how u view me. You only know about me what i post here. True or not.

2- slow clap....you own businesses and employ other.... wow! Omg such an amazing person. Stfu.... your above post shows your a closed minded person, that refuses to see anything beyond whats in your fake reality.

Atleast im will to see from others point of views and see what is actually in the real world and be an adult about it.

Again....the election is not over. Biden is not the president, the 2020 election has not been certified and trump still has a path to victory.

THESE ARE FACTS. Shut the fuck up about all the other bullshit and join the real world

[!Zar!]

Newsflash. The Dem's own the newstations. You see what they want you to see. That's all I gotta say about that.

Do the democrats own RT News? Asking for a friend.

[zombiewolf513]

I won't make the Hitler/Germany comparison because the difference between Trump and Hitler was that Hitler was actually successful.

https://i.imgur.com/zaIX7HC.gif

:barf:

[RalliartRsX]

Damm,,, trump with another lawsuit in Pennsylvania....man is pushn HARD lol

Can you please post the lawsuit?

Also this

BREAKING NEWS: Erie, Pa. #USPS whistleblower completely RECANTED his allegations of a supervisor tampering with mail-in ballots after being questioned by investigators, according to IG.
Here are the facts: Richard Hopkins is a USPS employee in Erie, Pa.

[S14rebuild]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/campaign/525224-trump-campaign-files-new-election-lawsuit-in-pennsylvania%3famp

[!Zar!]

Also this

In before team maga claims the "dems" did something.

[zombiewolf513]

Can you please post the lawsuit?

Also this

BREAKING NEWS: Erie, Pa. #USPS whistleblower completely RECANTED his allegations of a supervisor tampering with mail-in ballots after being questioned by investigators, according to IG.
Here are the facts: Richard Hopkins is a USPS employee in Erie, Pa.


sweet source you've got there.

[!Zar!]

sweet source you've got there.

The one who can find conspiracy theories left and right couldn't find the news story related to this?

https://www.wbtw.com/news/elections/usps-employee-who-claimed-mail-in-ballot-tampering-in-pa-recants-allegations/

[kingkilburn]

Until Trump's own lawyers provide specific proof of fraud to a judge there's no proof. I don't give a single fuck about a Twitter link or youtube video, and neither does the legal system.

All the Republicans are doing is a transparent attempt to save face for the Georgia runoffs. I doubt it makes a difference.

[S14rebuild]

Until Trump's own lawyers provide specific proof of fraud to a judge there's no proof. I don't give a single fuck about a Twitter link or youtube video, and neither does the legal system.


Ive done did said this like 5 times here lol falls on death ears


Or that since im a trump supporter doesnt matter in this thread.... either or

[KA24DESOneThree]

1-im not here to seek your approval i dont give a fuck how u view me. You only know about me what i post here. True or not.

2- slow clap....you own businesses and employ other.... wow! Omg such an amazing person. Stfu.... your above post shows your a closed minded person, that refuses to see anything beyond whats in your fake reality.

Atleast im will to see from others point of views and see what is actually in the real world and be an adult about it.

Again....the election is not over. Biden is not the president, the 2020 election has not been certified and trump still has a path to victory.

THESE ARE FACTS. Shut the fuck up about all the other bullshit and join the real world

Just for your edification, here are all my statements about the election itself. You're welcome to go back and check to see if I've edited anything.

Foul play like saying you're the winner when there are a few states as yet unknown? Foul play like saying there's foul play despite zero evidence to back you up?

If there is fuckery afoot, I truly hope it is found out and stamped out- regardless the outcome. But there's a hell of a lot of baseless hearsay coming from a lot of people on the right, Trump included. Giuliani is ouuuuuuut there right now.

There are a lot of good journos in the United States. It wouldn't take long for the truth to start coming out. Everyone has a vested interest in a fair race, and not just because their corporate overlords want them to.

A real poll watcher is someone like Michael Georg Link from the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe, who said, "We looked into this [note: he was referring to Trump's claims of voter fraud]. We found no violations of the rules whatsoever."

Instead, dudes here thinking anyone can tell any goddamn thing from a cell phone video of a frustrated clerk. Zero context, all conjecture.

There's a LOT of money in proving there is verifiable fraud going on. There's almost as much money claiming there's fraud going on.

We're interested in the same outcome, a fair election, but we have far, far different standards of journalistic and argumentative integrity.

Remember: a lot of people turned out to vote for someone who wasn't Trump. A lot of people voted for Trump not because he's Trump, but because he's not a Democrat.

Twitter, Facebook, and unaccountable news organizations have done nothing but subvert what, by international standards, appears to be a legitimate election drawn out by crisis management.

If there's a problem, sort it out legally. No one throws gasoline on a fire in hopes of putting it out.

I want the results to be fair- to have an unfairly-elected president is what a banana republic would do. If there is bona fide evidence of true fraud, it must be prosecuted and made right. If there is "evidence" of fake fraud put forth by people attempting to monetize this election, those people should be ostracized and demonized.

We can have conversations when you're not being a giant fucking donut. You're perfectly fine talking about cars or guns but the moment politics come into it you make me want to scoop out my eyeballs and set fire to my brain.

While you're at it, stop posting Google amp links. They're hosted by Google, not by the content creator. You're contributing to a conglomerated Internet.

[Phlip]

Ive done did said this like 5 times here lol falls on death ears


Or that since im a trump supporter doesnt matter in this thread.... either or
You're literally being drowned out by people towing the company line. Apparently alluding to vague but mostly implausible possibilities is good enough for some people and anyone who disagrees with that is worthy of being called names.
I say let them investigate and find nothing. Let them recount so we can watch him lose again. Let him refuse to leave the White House after all of that so we can see the Secret Service physically remove him. Hopefully we see him get knocked across the head with a goddamned maglite for additional entertainment value.

[zombiewolf513]

Ive done did said this like 5 times here lol falls on deaf ears

Or that since im a trump supporter doesnt matter in this thread.... either or

Dude, we're all the same person. Didn't you get the memo?

I find it funny that the same folks dragging around 'The hacker known as Putin 3LI73 H4X0Rd the election!' for 4 years (with no proof and to no avail) suddenly don't want to acknowledge the open lack election integrity this year. It's not likely the case, but if Trump were to flip this around I'm positive they'd act like Trump stole it.

[S14rebuild]

We can have conversations when you're not being a giant fucking donut. You're perfectly fine talking about cars or guns but the moment politics come into it you make me want to scoop out my eyeballs and set fire to my brain.


While you're at it, stop posting Google amp links. They're hosted by Google, not by the content creator. You're contributing to a conglomerated Internet.



Cause we share opposite political views...we know this already.
Actually think i articulate my points/views better then anyone eles on my same side here...




Sorry im not so versed at internet usage..... maybe just lazy... but the info is out there..i dont just say random made up stuff here

[S14rebuild]

You're literally being drowned out by people towing the company line. Apparently alluding to vague but mostly implausible possibilities is good enough for some people and anyone who disagrees with that is worthy of being called names.
I say let them investigate and find nothing. Let them recount so we can watch him lose again. Let him refuse to leave the White House after all of that so we can see the Secret Service physically remove him. Hopefully we see him get knocked across the head with a goddamned maglite for additional entertainment value.


Lol if he has his fair date in court, and loses, he will leave peacefully.

He wont concede, but he will leave.

[zombiewolf513]

Can you please post the lawsuit?

Also this

The one who can find conspiracy theories left and right couldn't find the news story related to this?

https://www.wbtw.com/news/elections/usps-employee-who-claimed-mail-in-ballot-tampering-in-pa-recants-allegations/

hmmm.... well I found this:

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1326323334800437248?s=19

he's claiming they attempted to coerce him into recanting and still stands by his claim. Straight from the man himself.

[!Zar!]

You're literally being drowned out by people towing the company line. Apparently alluding to vague but mostly implausible possibilities is good enough for some people and anyone who disagrees with that is worthy of being called names.
I say let them investigate and find nothing. Let them recount so we can watch him lose again. Let him refuse to leave the White House after all of that so we can see the Secret Service physically remove him. Hopefully we see him get knocked across the head with a goddamned maglite for additional entertainment value.
Wait till Trump claims squatters rights.

Dude, we're all the same person. Didn't you get the memo?

I find it funny that the same folks dragging around 'The hacker known as Putin 3LI73 H4X0Rd the election!' for 4 years (with no proof and to no avail) suddenly don't want to acknowledge the open lack election integrity this year. It's not likely the case, but if Trump were to flip this around I'm positive they'd act like Trump stole it.

Trying to compare apples to oranges my child.

The complaining about Putin was regards to meddling in the election primarily through social media. While Putin may have played Trump like a fiddle, nobody argued the fact that he won the electoral vote.

Could you imagine the size of the brick Trump (and his devoted lovers) would be shitting if he won the popular vote, but still lost the electoral colleges?

[deolio]

Lol if he has his fair date in court, and loses, he will leave peacefully.

He wont concede, but he will leave.

Lol will he? I think that'd be admitting defeat, which seems like something he'd never do. I'm sure he'll be suing people left and right for this whole debacle until the day he dies regardless of having evidence or not.

[zombiewolf513]

You've been eating too much syrup.

[S14rebuild]

Lol will he? I think that'd be admitting defeat, which seems like something he'd never do. I'm sure he'll be suing people left and right for this whole debacle until the day he dies regardless of having evidence or not.

At some point as a business man he is, gotta save face. There is life beyond the white house.... i think if court cases dont swing his way, he will see this n go. Might shock alot of people.

[kingkilburn]

Dude, we're all the same person. Didn't you get the memo?

My comment was specifically for you, non fidelis.

[zombiewolf513]

is that supposed to hurt my feelings? some election rigger insulting my service?

[kingkilburn]

Cause we share opposite political views...we know this already.

The best friend I've ever had is so ancap that he refused college grants because fuck the government. All of the best discussions on politics and history I've ever had were with him.

You do not have to be an insufferable dickhead just because you decided someone's viewpoint doesn't align with yours.

[kingkilburn]

is that supposed to hurt my feelings? some election rigger insulting my service?

I rigged the election personally? Shit. I should have run again Devin Nunes.

I'm insulting you, dumbass, not your job title. Clearly it did hurt your feelings. Mission Accomplished.

[deolio]

Might shock alot of people.

I would be very surprised. Next few months are gonna be very interesting. Looking forward to the entertainment :rofl:

[zombiewolf513]

I rigged the election personally? Shit. I should have run again Devin Nunes.

I'm insulting you, dumbass, not your job title. Clearly it did hurt your feelings. Mission Accomplished.

Know how I know you don't know what you think you know? Riggers gonna rig, amirite? SHEEEEEIT :ddog:

[S14rebuild]

The best friend I've ever had is so ancap that he refused college grants because fuck the government. All of the best discussions on politics and history I've ever had were with him.

You do not have to be an insufferable dickhead just because you decided someone's viewpoint doesn't align with yours.

Your preaching to the wrong guy here.....

[zombiewolf513]

woooopppsssieeeee

[zombiewolf513]

hmmm.... well I found this:

https://twitter.com/JamesOKeefeIII/status/1326323334800437248?s=19

he's claiming they attempted to coerce him into recanting and still stands by his claim. Straight from the man himself.

slide awayyyyyy come and slide away with meeeeeeeee

[kingkilburn]

Trump's lawyers in Pennsylvania told the judge there was no fraud or undue influence. His. Own. Lawyers.

[!Zar!]

Trump's lawyers in Pennsylvania told the judge there was no fraud or undue influence. His. Own. Lawyers.

Clearly Trump's lawyers didn't know what the people in this thread know.

[zombiewolf513]

What do you think a Karen or a Jordan would say about insulting a veteran's honorable service on the Marine Corps birthday, and the day before veteran's day over a political disagreement? Maybe we should ask one.

[!Zar!]

What do you think a Karen or a Jordan would say about insulting a veteran's honorable service on the Marine Corps birthday, and the day before veteran's day over a political disagreement? Maybe we should ask one.

Happy Marine's Birthday.

I wish you a future of minimal PTSD and a plethora of "Don't tread on me bro" t shirts.

[zombiewolf513]

Thank you, dear leader.

[!Zar!]

Thank you, dear leader.

https://im-media.voltron.voanews.com/Drupal/01live-166/styles/sourced/s3/2019-04/FF125D25-3B01-431F-80AF-566F2D758CC7.jpg

[LEG1T]

http://www.loser.com

[kingkilburn]

What do you think a Karen or a Jordan would say about insulting a veteran's honorable service on the Marine Corps birthday, and the day before veteran's day over a political disagreement? Maybe we should ask one.

Let me know what they say, fucko.

[zombiewolf513]

ask em yourself. I've already got my satisfaction.

[kingkilburn]

All piss and vinegar but no action. Non fidelis, as ever.

Anyway. Biden's popular vote lead continues to grow as overseas, military, and provisional ballots are counted.

[kingkilburn]

All piss and vinegar but no action. Non fidelis, as ever.

Anyway. Biden's popular vote lead continues to grow as overseas, military, and provisional ballots are counted.

[zombiewolf513]

Rich coming from someone who was likely the culprit of 'threatening my job' lol. Some freedom-spoiled kid that plays with commies downtown wouldnt know the first thing about fidelis. you do realize its not me youre insulting, right? All this other talk of how much you care about what you think America is has gone straight out the window.

[kingkilburn]

I didn't threaten anything. You're as wrong as you always are. Non fidelis means never faithful, like your relationship to facts.

[zombiewolf513]

uh huh. keep bumpin rebecca black with your methd up friends at the club. im sure itll work out for you.... someday.

[!Zar!]

Here you go. Time to collect your million dollars. https://www.foxnews.com/politics/texas-lt-gov-dan-patrick-1-million-reward-evidence-arrest-conviction-voter

[kingkilburn]

uh huh. keep bumpin rebecca black with your methd up friends at the club. im sure itll work out for you.... someday.

What the fuck are you even talking about?

[zombiewolf513]

PA removed from Biden's projected electoral total, back to 259:

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/elections/live_results/2020/president/

[S14rebuild]

Trump's lawyers in Pennsylvania told the judge there was no fraud or undue influence. His. Own. Lawyers.


They are not going after "voter fraud" in Pennsylvania. They are contesting equality of votes.. based off of bush v gore.



Come on thought ur smarter then that

[Phlip]

They are not going after "voter fraud" in Pennsylvania. They are contesting equality of votes.. based off of bush v gore.

"Equality of votes" based off Bush/Gore...
You mean when the difference was FIVE HUNDRED AND THIRTY SEVEN votes, well within anyone's margin for error? Because the difference in PA right now is over forty thousand.

No less-biased sources than the one previously posted has "taken Pennsylvania back" or hasn't called Nevada. North Carolina election laws give them until today to make their count official and it will probably go to Trump.
The election is to be certified and nationally official on December 1, and judges are showing that they're not with the bullshit. If the campaign wants to try to win it in court, hearsay ain't gonna get it. The judge in PA asked if they were claiming fraud in the cases of 500-something (mind you, not 47k) votes and repeated the question almost as a means of highlighting the ridiculousness of coming to court so ill-prepared.

This is the election that will not go away and continues to highlight America as an international embarrassment.

[S14rebuild]

^ i guess it is really hard todo the research.
Bush vs. Gore is not qbout 537 votes...smh

[S14rebuild]

Trumps Pennsylvania lawsuit is basicly

1. The counting of votes that were not certified and checked with q republican poll watcher present. By a court order qnd law must be present. The state was knowingly violating this right in block poll workers from doing their job.

2. In high democratic turn our districts. When an error was found on q ballot it was given qn opportunity to be "cured" corrected so it can be counted. This was untrue and not qllowed in high turn out republican districts and the ballots were discared/ not counted in the election

These are the claims in Pennsylvania. There are over 70 witness filed swore affiliateds and more evidence filed along with this.
Trump os contesting over 400,000 votes at this time in the state..well abouve the diffrence margin. This actually has some traction cause of prior bush vs gore decision in courts. "Equal protection clause"- were all counted votes done so EQUALLY?...

[kingkilburn]

They are not going after "voter fraud" in Pennsylvania. They are contesting equality of votes.. based off of bush v gore.



Come on thought ur smarter then that

If they aren't alleging fraud or undue influence how could the count be unequal? They are trying to get the courts to make an argument for them.

https://media0.giphy.com/media/dZQduBLF6LPGc9io3M/giphy.gif

[jdmgtom]

jdmgrom had one bar of green rep before this post

I do not care about rep lol make it a red wave baby. Seems like all the pro-Trump guys have negative rep lmao so I rather not be on the same side of some of you green rep people. You guys support a pedophile. Has anyone read Joe Biden's daughters leaked dairy, Ashley Biden.

The diary details Ashley Biden?s unhealthy relationship with sex, and the ?probably not appropriate? showers she shared as a young girl with her father, Joe Biden.

[S14rebuild]

The courts can make an argument for them as they have already made a ruling under the same pretense in bush v.gore...

Dont shoot the messager...im just passn the info along that is being found.

Is it a slim possibility it could work? Yes anything is possible and with really how crazy shit has been in 2020..its more possiable then ever.

Trump doesnt need to win the elector votes to win the election. Just needs to keep biden from reachn 270. Thats his plan.

[kingkilburn]

Making a ruling is not making an argument on behalf of the petitioner. It would be entirely inappropriate for the judge to make any decision outside of what is specifically alleged, and as of now nothing had been.

[S14rebuild]

Making a ruling is not making an argument on behalf of the petitioner. It would be entirely inappropriate for the judge to make any decision outside of what is specifically alleged, and as of now nothing had been.

There is proof to what trumps campain is sayn... but is it enough??


Will all just have to wait and see....

[S14rebuild]

Georgia is offically recounting...

[kingkilburn]

Georgia and Wisconsin were always going to recount. The margin is narrow enough to make it automatic under their law