The 2020 Presidential Race

[lewisfk]

There is one woman accusing Biden of sexual assault, and he asked for a Senate investigation the past week. The POTUS has 25 women accusing him of sexual harassment, assault, or rape.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12%3famp

[RalliartRsX]

The Senate also turned down his request......

Odd....

[exitspeed]

You guys justify it all you want. Defending even one makes you a hypocrite.

[gbaby2089]

nopenopenope

[exitspeed]

I am not voting Biden, let me make that clear.

But you have no room to talk man. Trump is accused of rape, assault, harrassment in addition to tons of other stuff.

Never Trump republicans & centrist dems have sacrificed some of the high ground, but it isn't for Trumpers to take.

I?m not saying any of this is right, I?m saying the Lefts cancel culture over mere allegations is definitely not right.

And it?s not just Trump supports who think so.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/05/03/opinion/joe-biden-tara-reade.html
This is collateral damage that Democrats ? who have spent the last few years championing the #MeToo movement ? should be loath to incur. Democrats who subject Ms. Reade?s allegations to a level of scrutiny not widely applied to accusers in similar circumstances ? such as Christine Blasey-Ford, who famously came forward during the confirmation of Justice Brett Kavanaugh for the Supreme Court to allege that he had sexually accosted her in high school ? also open up past and future cases to reproachful disregard. Conservatives, like my colleague Bret Stephens, can see the plain gulf between how Democrats have approached sexual assault in politically advantageous cases versus Ms. Reade?s, and the evident hypocrisy threatens to discredit the entire enterprise.

[Bluejayde]

Im not a fan of trump for the most part but I do appreciate him putting much needed pressure and accountability on communist china throughout his term. i dont see biden being as capable in this regard

Get out of here you fucken moderate! Only extremist views allowed!

[Bluejayde]

C'mon, where my racists at? I need my bathroom reading.

[Future240]

If any regular users in Zilvia are racists they hide it well. Never seen any racism from anyone that posts in here.

[Thursday7]

If any regular users in Zilvia are racists they hide it well. Never seen any racism from anyone that posts in here.

Silence and/or strawman arguments related to cases of clear racism is racism

[Bluejayde]

I have seen overt and obvious racism in several threads over the years, but usually the language is more coded.

[RalliartRsX]

.... and normally prefaced with "I have a black friend" or "I identify as black" or "I grew around black people" or some other shit like that.

Typically that means you're racist or your very next statement will have serious racist undertones if that's how you preface any of your arguments.....

However the folks who post as such will not see it that way

[PoorMans180SX]

Jo Jorgensen for president. The two party system doesn't/hasn't/isn't working. Time for actual change. This whole thing smells as shitty as it did four years ago. Two garbage candidates leaving voters to choose between the "lesser evil". I'll be voting with my morals and supporting someone who values what America was founded for.

I don't want to hear any of this fallacious "A vote for a third party is a vote for _________" bullshit either.

[SimpleS14]

Stone's sentence is commuted by Trump. This guy didn't even take one step in prison.

At this point, if Trump loses, I would not be surprised if he blanket pardons his family, allies and even himself.

Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Barr pulls an 'October surprise' and announces indictments on former Obama administration personnel. Not saying it's a sure thing, but it's not much of a stretch.

[Bluejayde]

I won't vote for Trump or Biden. At this point it looks like I'll be marking MoJo JoJo.

[Corbic]

Stone's sentence is commuted by Trump. This guy didn't even take one step in prison.

At this point, if Trump loses, I would not be surprised if he blanket pardons his family, allies and even himself.

Also, I wouldn't be shocked if Barr pulls an 'October surprise' and announces indictments on former Obama administration personnel. Not saying it's a sure thing, but it's not much of a stretch.Sure, okay. Maybe only because the DNC has hijacked the administrative government and have been using it as a weapon for... +30 years

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200720/04d7a3cf58345b598db1fbbf3671c0fe.jpg

[Future240]

Without context those numbers are nigh pointless. It shows dem presidents do it more, but less does not mean better or worse.

What matters is what the clemency is granted for. Im sure all of them have some questionable pardons.

[RalliartRsX]

Without context those numbers are nigh pointless. It shows dem presidents do it more, but less does not mean better or worse.

What matters is what the clemency is granted for. Im sure all of them have some questionable pardons.


^^ This. I didn't want to bother to comment until someone else pointed it out

Stone is a POS. Has a tattoo of Nixon on his back. Undermines the actual US constitution and the US in general as a country.

A black teenager indicted on a minor drug possession offense serving 15 to life, is a gravely different scenario...

[Corbic]

^^ This. I didn't want to bother to comment until someone else pointed it out



Stone is a POS. Has a tattoo of Nixon on his back. Undermines the actual US constitution and the US in general as a country.



A black teenager indicted on a minor drug possession offense serving 15 to life, is a gravely different scenario...If Obama was so worried about institutional racism, why didn't he fix it?

DNC/Left Control

Public Education / Teacher Unions
Universities
Federal Administrative Government
Most State Administrative Governments
All Major Cities
Corporate Media and News
Tech Industry
Hollywood and Entertainment
Music Industry
Video Game Industry
Comic Industry

So if all major institutions are controlled by the left.... How is it Trump has made them all racist?

How do we have systemic racism in cities with POC making up over half the population, controlling all major positions including Mayor, Police Chief, District Attorney, Schools, etc? Yet these are the cities with the greatest gaps and most problems.

You look at these cities and the DNC has controlled every level of the entire system all the way down to the local alderman for over a century... And it's because of Trump?

[RalliartRsX]

Nuanced......and accurate discussion need not apply. Last I checked (and this is just one example) Fortune 500 companies were made of up of like 95% WHITE CEOs and higher level folks.

There are only 4 black CEOs running fortune 500 companies. So not even sure which part of your ass you are pulling the rest of your........."information"......from

https://www.businessinsider.com/there-are-four-black-fortune-500-ceos-here-they-are-2020-2

I won't even bother to get into the political side of things (PACS for example) and lobbyist side of things

Goodluck to you Corbic....

[RalliartRsX]

I would sure hope Corbic is able to pull the list of whites vs blacks who control all the industries he mentioned and get back to me other than some random statement pulled from mid air....

But I surly won't hold my breath

Also, I would like for him to include a timeline. Because last I checked, Alabama for example, has pretty much voted a while male/female (rare) into every single level of local government and cabinet for the last 50 or so years....

[Corbic]

Nuanced......and accurate discussion need not apply. Last I checked (and this is just one example) Fortune 500 companies were made of up of like 95% WHITE CEOs and higher level folks.

There are only 4 black CEOs running fortune 500 companies. So not even sure which part of your ass you are pulling the rest of your........."information"......from

https://www.businessinsider.com/there-are-four-black-fortune-500-ceos-here-they-are-2020-2

I won't even bother to get into the political side of things (PACS for example) and lobbyist side of things

Goodluck to you Corbic....Are you saying Democrats, socialists and leftists are...


Racist?

[Corbic]

And again, since you struggle with nuanced.

What I gather from your post....

Most CEOs are white, therefore "the system is racist".


Is there a law that prevents POC from being a CEO? I almost recall we actually have laws and policies in place to encourage the success of POC..... Quite the opposite..


Are you implying that because Jeff Benzo is white... he is a racist or that he lobbies the DNC to due racist things? He's linked up with Lori Lightfoot and she's working to keep those murder rates up in Chicago.... Because... Why?

If the system is so racist... how is Ilham Omar... A black... muslim.. woman... Africa.... Immigrant..
Able to come to America, get elected to political office and become a millionaire.... While crying how racist and unfair America is....


Also, to build on your idea... Disproportionately White CEO's = Racism...

What does it say when most of those CEO's, Actors, Producers and Tech owners are.... JUDEN...

Are you claiming a zionist conspiracy? Jews make up less then 2% of the total population... Did you know they make up 24% of the billionaires in the US? (105/442)...

Are you saying the system is rigged and the only way to fix it is build a new world order so the working Germ err people of color can succeed...

Here's the reality, ain't got nothing to do with race. It's your garbage leftist policies and agendas that destroy communities , raise stupid lazy people and fill their heads with nonsense about how they are only stupid and poor because it's someone else's fault....

When's the last time you cleaned your room...

[spooled240]

There is institutional racism in this country, but it works quite the opposite of how many people are describing it. A few examples include how many government contracting companies claiming advantages and benefits in obtaining contracts if they identify as minority owned. Asian-american college applicants needing higher SAT scores to compete with underrepresented minorities.

Let's not confuse equality of opportunity with equality of outcome

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/HahVcBoyGzk

[S14rebuild]

And again, since you struggle with nuanced.

What I gather from your post....

Most CEOs are white, therefore "the system is racist".


Is there a law that prevents POC from being a CEO? I almost recall we actually have laws and policies in place to encourage the success of POC..... Quite the opposite..


Are you implying that because Jeff Benzo is white... he is a racist or that he lobbies the DNC to due racist things? He's linked up with Lori Lightfoot and she's working to keep those murder rates up in Chicago.... Because... Why?

If the system is so racist... how is Ilham Omar... A black... muslim.. woman... Africa.... Immigrant..
Able to come to America, get elected to political office and become a millionaire.... While crying how racist and unfair America is....


Also, to build on your idea... Disproportionately White CEO's = Racism...

What does it say when most of those CEO's, Actors, Producers and Tech owners are.... JUDEN...

Are you claiming a zionist conspiracy? Jews make up less then 2% of the total population... Did you know they make up 24% of the billionaires in the US? (105/442)...

Are you saying the system is rigged and the only way to fix it is build a new world order so the working Germ err people of color can succeed...

Here's the reality, ain't got nothing to do with race. It's your garbage leftist policies and agendas that destroy communities , raise stupid lazy people and fill their heads with nonsense about how they are only stupid and poor because it's someone else's fault....

When's the last time you cleaned your room...

My favorite post here!

[midnight zenki]

Curious what all the anti-tyranny advocates that "need their guns in case the government comes to get them" think of the nameless federal goon squads out in Portland? Y'all saddlin' up to go save your fellow citizens from the threat that you've been preparing for all this time? Where's the Oath Keepers and III percenters when the threat actually occurs? This shit is straight out of Mexico with unmarked cars and people getting snatched off of the street. So far we have 1st, 4th and 10th amendment rights being violated but no "true" patriots in sight.

:bs:

[S14rebuild]

Why arent u out there helpn your fellow americans? Cant call out others if u aint doing shit either.....just sayn

[midnight zenki]

Why arent u out there helpn your fellow americans? Cant call out others if u aint doing shit either.....just sayn

Because I never espoused to be a gun toting patriot like a few hypocritical voices here have. My vote is their help and a donation to the ACLU, what's your excuse?

[S14rebuild]

Because I never espoused to be a gun toting patriot like a few hypocritical voices here have. My vote is their help and a donation to the ACLU, what's your excuse?

Ahhh the american way, just throw $ at the problem...seems legit

My excuse....im to busy trolling zilvia all day.

Seriously... they askd for that shit. I dont agree with any of these protests, rioting, looting or that chaz bullshit. They all wanna get crazy and riled up and now the goverment is tryn to put them back in place.... im not complaining. But hey when civil war 2 starts ill be there

[midnight zenki]

Ahhh the american way, just throw $ at the problem...seems legit

My excuse....im to busy trolling zilvia all day.

Seriously... they askd for that shit. I dont agree with any of these protests, rioting, looting or that chaz bullshit. They all wanna get crazy and riled up and now the goverment is tryn to put them back in place.... im not complaining. But hey when civil war 2 starts ill be there

You seem like the type to rock Hawaiian shirts and face masks before they were mandatory.

Why do you hate the constitution?

[S14rebuild]

You seem like the type to rock Hawaiian shirts and face masks before they were mandatory

Nope, not my style......

More of a camo shorts, and a walmart funny tshirt kinda guy:wiggle:

[midnight zenki]

Ahhh the american way, just throw $ at the problem...seems legit


Seriously... they askd for that shit. I dont agree with any of these protests, rioting, looting or that chaz bullshit. They all wanna get crazy and riled up and now the goverment is tryn to put them back in place.... im not complaining. But hey when civil war 2 starts ill be there

Nobody gives a fuck about what you agree with but you and your not getting violated for it. Those people have a constitutional right to what they give a fuck about that is being violated. To be clear I am talking about the non-violent people out there.

[S14rebuild]

Im sure there are plenty of people that would agree..just cause you arent 1 of them doesnt make it invalid.... but again dont just dontate $ and walk ur happy ass over to seattle and help them. Get ur leaf blower and ur snorkling mask and help your fellow Americans...

[rvns14]

Ahhh the american way, just throw $ at the problem...seems legit

My excuse....im to busy trolling zilvia all day.

Seriously... they askd for that shit. I dont agree with any of these protests, rioting, looting or that chaz bullshit. They all wanna get crazy and riled up and now the goverment is tryn to put them back in place.... im not complaining. But hey when civil war 2 starts ill be there

Expected that people think civil rights protesters deserve the FSB treatment. Where are the burrito bandoliers open carrying in chipotle and saying I disagree with you but would defend your right to say it?

[S14rebuild]

Again, its my opinion... i dont agree with it... never said it wasnt there RIGHT too.. i cant speak on behalf of others just myself.

As u ask where are they? Idk dont think any of them are members here

[Corbic]

Curious what all the anti-tyranny advocates that "need their guns in case the government comes to get them" think of the nameless federal goon squads out in Portland? Y'all saddlin' up to go save your fellow citizens from the threat that you've been preparing for all this time? Where's the Oath Keepers and III percenters when the threat actually occurs? This shit is straight out of Mexico with unmarked cars and people getting snatched off of the street. So far we have 1st, 4th and 10th amendment rights being violated but no "true" patriots in sight.

:bs:You mean the uniformed boarder patrol agents acting on lawful warrants arresting wanted violent criminals?

Cops use unmarked cars all the time. But I agree, I'm totally shocked they don't want to roll up in a marked squad car so they can't get attacked by the mob and then hang out and explain why they are arresting someone...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200724/dfbe67d8bf02d69ce9a72613eaa35931.jpg

[Corbic]

Nobody gives a fuck about what you agree with but you and your not getting violated for it. Those people have a constitutional right to what they give a fuck about that is being violated. To be clear I am talking about the non-violent people out there.Do you have a single example of these accusation?

Sounds like you've been reading Twitter comments as news and have no idea what's going on.

https://youtu.be/tfhxBfcgZfQ

[Corbic]

Expected that people think civil rights protesters deserve the FSB treatment. Where are the burrito bandoliers open carrying in chipotle and saying I disagree with you but would defend your right to say it?What "Civil Rights" protestors?

Hella Peaceful

https://youtu.be/B8z0jFxOmFo

Love this, these set themselves on fire by accident trying to throw molotov cocktails at federal agents.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CC-954yJAT4V9P-eKnPKgyUdI2Ka7qveNwQquY0/?igshid=1xabvb84i0142

[midnight zenki]

Do you have a single example of these accusation?

"Here, I don't have facts or an intelligent response, enjoy some youtube":wtf:

https://youtu.be/tfhxBfcgZfQ


Unmarked clandestine federal agents in unmarked cars snatching anybody is fucking tyranny embodied. If they did commit a crime they deserve to know who is detaining them. As some of the comments in your shit-stained youtube comment section implied these may as well be militia members exacting a private agenda.

The "they deserve it argument" is a gateway to the erosion of your rights. All your previous virtue signaling on tyranny and oppression were just that. You want ants? This is how you get ants. #Donniethedictatordickrider2020

[Corbic]

Unmarked clandestine federal agents in unmarked cars snatching anybody is fucking tyranny embodied. If they did commit a crime they deserve to know who is detaining them. As some of the comments in your shit-stained youtube comment section implied these may as well be militia members exacting a private agenda.

The "they deserve it argument" is a gateway to the erosion of your rights. All your previous virtue signaling on tyranny and oppression were just that. You want ants? This is how you get ants. #Donniethedictatordickrider2020

Did you watch the video or are you too wrapped up in your own wokeness vacuum chamber to allow facts to get in the way of you're own narrative?

Again, the agents are clearly marked with unit, agency etc. So that's bullshit.

For the vehicle, so what? Police use unmarked cars ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Have you ever heard of a "plain clothes cop" or "undercover"? Ever hear of "no knock raids"?

Ever heard of fucking bounty hunters?

The agents have done nothing wrong nor illegal. Your viewing their actions from a broken prism where you don't actually understand how any of this works.

They don't need to tell you why you are being detained while detaining you.

They don't need to read you your rights until you are formally arrested.

You've watched way to much TV and need to stop taking legal advice from Gender Study drop outs on Twitter.


As for crying about Trump, maybe you should read up on your pal Obama. He'd just kill them with a drone.

[Corbic]

Look at all the Peace and Love.

People just holding hands and singing standing up for civil rights...

BATTLEGROUND PORTLAND: DAY 55: https://youtu.be/BAlZ_B8VxGg

Looks more like a Marxist Insurgency using violence and intimidation to get what they want.

[midnight zenki]

Did you watch the video or are you too wrapped up in your own wokeness vacuum chamber to allow facts to get in the way of you're own narrative?

Again, the agents are clearly marked with unit, agency etc. So that's bullshit.

For the vehicle, so what? Police use unmarked cars ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Have you ever heard of a "plain clothes cop" or "undercover"? Ever hear of "no knock raids"?

Ever heard of fucking bounty hunters?

The agents have done nothing wrong nor illegal. Your viewing their actions from a broken prism where you don't actually understand how any of this works.

They don't need to tell you why you are being detained while detaining you.

They don't need to read you your rights until you are formally arrested.

You've watched way to much TV and need to stop taking legal advice from Gender Study drop outs on Twitter.


As for crying about Trump, maybe you should read up on your pal Obama. He'd just kill them with a drone.

Again, the agents are clearly marked with unit, agency etc. So that's bullshit. Are they? Why is the talking point that they don't identify themselves for fear of harm to their families then?

For the vehicle, so what? Police use unmarked cars ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Have you ever heard of a "plain clothes cop" or "undercover"? Ever hear of "no knock raids"? Who gives a fuck, minor detail towards the overall picture

Ever heard of fucking bounty hunters? Cool story bro, not government agents

The agents have done nothing wrong nor illegal. Your viewing their actions from a broken prism where you don't actually understand how any of this works. Right, this is the problem. The fact that this can occur is the very issue. It may be legal but it sure as shit is fucked up. Just wait until its your turn when your shitbaiting posts get drudged up in an AI induced sweep of shit brains sometime in the future

They don't need to tell you why you are being detained while detaining you.

They don't need to read you your rights until you are formally arrested. Being detained is being arrested. If you cannot leave under your own free will you are under arrest, educate yourself https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/arrest#:~:text=An%20arrest%20is%20using%20legal,th e%20time%20of%20the%20arrest.

You've watched way to much TV and need to stop taking legal advice from Gender Study drop outs on Twitter. Sick burn from from a bootlicker.


As for crying about Trump, maybe you should read up on your pal Obama. He'd just kill them with a drone I'll ask him about it tonight while were having dinner together. Nice strawman attempt though, I didn't expect any less from you

[Corbic]

Again, the agents are clearly marked with unit, agency etc. So that's bullshit. Are they? Why is the talking point that they don't identify themselves for fear of harm to their families then?

For the vehicle, so what? Police use unmarked cars ALL THE FUCKING TIME. Have you ever heard of a "plain clothes cop" or "undercover"? Ever hear of "no knock raids"? Who gives a fuck, minor detail towards the overall picture

Ever heard of fucking bounty hunters? Cool story bro, not government agents

The agents have done nothing wrong nor illegal. Your viewing their actions from a broken prism where you don't actually understand how any of this works. Right, this is the problem. The fact that this can occur is the very issue. It may be legal but it sure as shit is fucked up. Just wait until its your turn when your shitbaiting posts get drudged up in an AI induced sweep of shit brains sometime in the future

They don't need to tell you why you are being detained while detaining you.

They don't need to read you your rights until you are formally arrested. Being detained is being arrested. If you cannot leave under your own free will you are under arrest, educate yourself https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/arrest#:~:text=An%20arrest%20is%20using%20legal,th e%20time%20of%20the%20arrest.

You've watched way to much TV and need to stop taking legal advice from Gender Study drop outs on Twitter. Sick burn from from a bootlicker.


As for crying about Trump, maybe you should read up on your pal Obama. He'd just kill them with a drone I'll ask him about it tonight while were having dinner together. Nice strawman attempt though, I didn't expect any less from youLiterally 15 minutes of research would have undone your panties. Facts not feelings dude.

Sorry your feelings are hurt that violent insurgents are being arrested and detained for destroying federal property and assaulting federal agents.

If at any point you have evidence that a "peaceful protester" was "illegally arrested", by all means, post it up.

Until then, to quote Joe

"you lying dog faced pony soldier"

[midnight zenki]

Literally 15 minutes of research would have undone your panties. Facts not feelings dude.

Sorry your feelings are hurt that violent insurgents are being arrested and detained for destroying federal property and assaulting federal agents.

If at any point you have evidence that a "peaceful protester" was "illegally arrested", by all means, post it up.

Until then, to quote Joe

"you lying dog faced pony soldier"


Did you read anything I wrote or are you too caught up in your own Endless Male induced circle-jerk of an echo chamber.

[Corbic]

And to debunk your broken hyperbolic argument....

The "Gun toting patriots" are not being hypocritical by supporting the party vans.

They see pantifa as dangerous domestic terrorist that are using violence and destruction as a way to intimidate elected officials and the public in order to circumvent our legal process to get what they want.

Couldn't be anymore un-American.

Why not put together coherent ideas, plans, polices and proposed laws, bring them to open forums, public hearings and council meetings. Sign petitions to add new laws to ballots this fall, back political campaigns that support your ideas, ect.

Nope, "do as we say or we burn your shit down"

[midnight zenki]

And to debunk your broken hyperbolic argument....

The "Gun toting patriots" are not being hypocritical by supporting the party vans.

They see pantifa as dangerous domestic terrorist that are using violence and destruction as a way to intimidate elected officials and the public in order to circumvent our legal process to get what they want.

Couldn't be anymore un-American.

Why not put together coherent ideas, plans, polices and proposed laws, bring them to open forums, public hearings and council meetings. Sign petitions to add new laws to ballots this fall, back political campaigns that support your ideas, ect.

Nope, "do as we say or we burn your shit down"

And the serpent reveals itself, thanks for highlighting my underlying point. It doesn?t suit their agenda so they don?t care regardless of its core issue being that in which they predicate themselves on. Your too easy to bait:love:

[Corbic]

And the serpent reveals itself, thanks for highlighting my underlying point. It doesn?t suit their agenda so they don?t care regardless of its core issue being that in which they predicate themselves on. Your too easy to bait:love:What serpent?



You think this is okay? YES/NO

https://youtu.be/B8z0jFxOmFo

[S14rebuild]

If ur expecting a simple yes or no from these crazy left wing nuts...ull be waiting forever corbic

[Corbic]

If ur expecting a simple yes or no from these crazy left wing nuts...ull be waiting forever corbichttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200725/821d7719fe5abb067e9196d5de9ae24f.jpg

[gbaby2089]

S14rebuild, why do you disagree with these protests?

Corbic, if America is so free, why does it have the largest prison population in the world by a huge margin?

[Corbic]

S14rebuild, why do you disagree with these protests?

Corbic, if America is so free, why does it have the largest prison population in the world by a huge margin?What are using to define "freedom"? Why would prison population have any impact on that? Have you weighted the idea that offense in the US may carry X-years while other countries have other solutions?

Iran may hang or stone you instead.
South East Asia may just cane or whip you
China and may send you to hard labor or harvest your organs.

Then others places like Africa and South America don't even have functioning "justice" systems so reports, investigations and arrests never happen.

We then have places like Norway or Japan that have incredibly homogeneous populations that don't suffer from much of the urban crime the US has.

Then look at our system, we have due process, appeals, "innocent until proven", states burden, free public defenders and a legal system outside of Chicago that is immune from financial bribery and extortion.

Compare that to China and Japan with 99% conviction rates. Many places the fact you've been arrested is confirmation of guilt and its on the accused to prove innocence. There is no public provided defense.

Look again at the frequency of crime. Are Americans committing more crime then say a Dane or Italian?

What about policy? You want to blame prison numbers on 4 years of Trump? Didn't Biden father the 1993 Crime Act? Wasn't Kamala the one joking about her brutality on "minor drug" offenders? Didn't California's Jerry Brown invent the 3 strikes?

Cities with the highest crime have been run exclusively by Democrats for +50 years. Republicans and Conservatives have been nonexistent in Chicago for almost 100 years.

So lastly, I don't want you to think that I avoided a not so simple question.

Your freedom ends when it infringes on my freedom. Because Americans have so much freedom, many choose to make poor life decisions and infringe on others freedoms, violating their property and bodies.

The root of this is our incredibly diverse population coupled with incredibly awful leftist policies.

Our prisons are not full of political dissidents and people stealing loaves of bread to feed their families. They are not even full tax evaders and people operating business without a license.

Violate someone else's liberties and go to jail. You have the freedom to make that choice.

[S14rebuild]

S14rebuild, why do you disagree with these protests?

1...black lives matter movement is not what is says it to be...its a marxist lead group, that back anyones ideas to try and topple goverment

2..being a black man in america is not a death sentance
3..police brutality is not anywhere near what these people/media are making ut tobe only gueling the racial divide for there own benefits.

4....black people kill more black people then anyone eles soooo, hows that white americas fault?

These are a few of my reasonings

Now reguarding this mr floyd...yes the officer was wrong, and should be tried(gonna be hard as fuk to legally convict him) but this isnt a cause to burn america down, defund and strip the police..come on now...this is all crazy fuckn talk

[gbaby2089]

S14rebuild, you realize that being black in America is still a lot harder than being white or asian in America, right?

That Black individuals and communities have been pushed around and targeted to advance the ‘economy’ since 1619, and that it continues to this day, right?

BLM the organization is Marxist bc the US ‘capitalist’ (socialist for the rich) system has time and time shown itself incapable of doing anything but perpetuating racial injustice. Why would they support a status quo as inequal as this one?

[S14rebuild]

S14rebuild, you realize that being black in America is still a lot harder than being white or asian in America, right?

That Black individuals and communities have been pushed around and targeted to advance the ?economy? since 1619, and that it continues to this day, right?

BLM the organization is Marxist bc the US ?capitalist? (socialist for the rich) system has time and time shown itself incapable of doing anything but perpetuating racial injustice. Why would they support a status quo as inequal as this one?

So what if its harder being black in america? Life isnt fair..period. doesnt matter what skin color. But again the black community wants to point the finger outwards. Its white peoples fault. Its theyre fault that theres more black on black crime, white people fault the black community has more single parent homes then anyone eles, more kids not completing high school. Yup thats whiteys fault.

I mean, if ur gonna blame this on "slavery" then lets beat that..what about the jews? Why arent they uprising and complaining? They were enslaved for thousands of years, oh n lets not forget the holocaust where millions were murdered. Go look at africa where blacks are still enslaving 1 another. So yea j have 100% issuse with this bullshit protest and rioting. If the black community took care of themselves FIRST and then said hey look were being discriminated against..id hear what they gotta say. But till then hell no. With their chants of defund the police and we want reputations shows pure ignorance.

Go for it hand every black person a 50k check... tell me how much better the community will be, and how far the black American life has come....

[gbaby2089]

You need to open your eyes.

Black people have lower environmental health as a result of proximity to freeways and industrial areas. In the middle of the 20th century, many Black communities were deemed as slums (though oftentimes thriving neighborhoods), obtained through eminent domain and torn down to construct highways. These highways existed to ease city access for the white people that had fled cities for suburbs, to segregate themselves from Black people.

This white flight drained the tax base from inner city schools & provides for segregated schools. In schools with high percentages of poverty, students that have struggles at home are less likely to get the individual attention that they may need to truly succeed.
These schools are oftentimes then deemed as failing schools and replaced with almost universally inferior charter schools where the only goal is to meet the bare minimum for state testing to continue receiving funding.

Black on Black crime occurs at a similar percentage to white on white crime. In a shocking twist, people are most likely to commit crimes against the people they find themselves around most often. Crime is higher in poor communities because poverty and lack of opportunity breeds a need to do something to survive, oftentimes people turn to crime. That happens in low income white communities as well.

Even to this day, Black neighborhoods are targeted for highway expansion. Portland is looking at expanding a freeway (using artificially high demand numbers to justify the expansion, the traffic engineers used the estimated traffic numbers resulting from multiple other road expansions that WERE NEVER BUILT to come with this pie in the sky number), which will cut into the 'yard' at Harriet Tubman Middle School, a school that is 70% Black. The school already has higher incidences of asthma than surrounding areas as a result of the smog.

In the City of Milwaukee, tens of thousands of homes in the majority Black North side have lead water pipes. This is an economically depressed area and has been for many years. Lead exposure in children results in developmental delay, learning difficulties, irritability, seizures, fatigue, etc.

These are just a small taste of the burden that is on many Black Americans that many white Americans have never even considered. Let alone the over policing of majority Black neighborhoods, let alone the cuts to public transit within many low-income communities, etc. Even a lack of family members or family friends with experience navigating student loans and the college application process raises the difficulty level to 'escape' poverty.

You want everyone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps while also fighting your hardest to make sure swaths of the population don't have boots at all.

[Phlip]

Even to this day, Black neighborhoods are targeted for highway expansion. Portland is looking at expanding a freeway (using artificially high demand numbers to justify the expansion, the traffic engineers used the estimated traffic numbers resulting from multiple other road expansions that WERE NEVER BUILT to come with this pie in the sky number), which will cut into the 'yard' at Harriet Tubman Middle School, a school that is 70% Black. The school already has higher incidences of asthma than surrounding areas as a result of the smog.
Can confirm (https://winstonwatchman.com/urbanrenewal-highway52-winston-salem/), Winston is 20 minutes from here and my preferred NPR station is out of there. They did a several days segment on the history of highway expansion and how it fucked the Black communities in the city.
The city of Greensboro, where I live at the intersection of interstates 85, 40 and 29, had a meeting about perhaps getting in some of my neighborhood's land for highway expansion, but the pastor at the curch down the block from me agreed to host the community meeting and let them HAVE it. As a homeowner, I have not been contacted about it since.

[S14rebuild]

You need to open your eyes.

Black people have lower environmental health as a result of proximity to freeways and industrial areas. In the middle of the 20th century, many Black communities were deemed as slums (though oftentimes thriving neighborhoods), obtained through eminent domain and torn down to construct highways. These highways existed to ease city access for the white people that had fled cities for suburbs, to segregate themselves from Black people.

This white flight drained the tax base from inner city schools & provides for segregated schools. In schools with high percentages of poverty, students that have struggles at home are less likely to get the individual attention that they may need to truly succeed.
These schools are oftentimes then deemed as failing schools and replaced with almost universally inferior charter schools where the only goal is to meet the bare minimum for state testing to continue receiving funding.

Black on Black crime occurs at a similar percentage to white on white crime. In a shocking twist, people are most likely to commit crimes against the people they find themselves around most often. Crime is higher in poor communities because poverty and lack of opportunity breeds a need to do something to survive, oftentimes people turn to crime. That happens in low income white communities as well.

Even to this day, Black neighborhoods are targeted for highway expansion. Portland is looking at expanding a freeway (using artificially high demand numbers to justify the expansion, the traffic engineers used the estimated traffic numbers resulting from multiple other road expansions that WERE NEVER BUILT to come with this pie in the sky number), which will cut into the 'yard' at Harriet Tubman Middle School, a school that is 70% Black. The school already has higher incidences of asthma than surrounding areas as a result of the smog.

In the City of Milwaukee, tens of thousands of homes in the majority Black North side have lead water pipes. This is an economically depressed area and has been for many years. Lead exposure in children results in developmental delay, learning difficulties, irritability, seizures, fatigue, etc.

These are just a small taste of the burden that is on many Black Americans that many white Americans have never even considered. Let alone the over policing of majority Black neighborhoods, let alone the cuts to public transit within many low-income communities, etc. Even a lack of family members or family friends with experience navigating student loans and the college application process raises the difficulty level to 'escape' poverty.

You want everyone to pull themselves up by their bootstraps while also fighting your hardest to make sure swaths of the population don't have boots at all.

And this is the white mans fault?

Last i checked black americans can vote, they elect the officals that push these plans thru....

But again all i hear is complaining n no idea how to fix it....which it will never be!

You wanna fix black neighborhoods, rid them of crime, make it safe for law abiding citzens to live a safe life. Make it safe so busuness will come back n spark the economy without fear of being robbed..

But let me guess u think its white people wearn masks robn n killing black folks in south Chicago.


But to what you posted.....doesnt sound like racism to me, sounds like a fincial class issue.

Unless your will to prove to me the city is intentionally given lead based water to only black people and whites drink safe water that city planners make black people live by highways cause thats a black only zone.. but im gonna go out on a limb here and say u wont find facts on that.


Come on. your maken this worse then the 50s lmao...there was just a black president.

[Corbic]

So no white or Hispanic people have ever been poor and had to live near a highway or in an old house?

K, how about ya'll move then?

Ain't no reason someone in Chicago or Detroit can't save up $500 for an old mini van and move out to Elkhart or Middle Burry Indiana. Get themselves a trailer for $450 a month and a job for $15/hr cash husking corn. Or get a factory job at $12.50/hr painting truck caps or $13/hr doing assembly work, take advantage of the in house welding classes and upgrade to a $21/hr welder.

Peace Rate Bonuses up to $250, overtime up to $15k / year. You could be pulling in $65k annually with no real skills, responsibility or education.

I bought a house and a 3 year old 350Z when I was making $40k out of college.

But that's the problem. I'm where I'm at because I think this way and I'm willing to work 100hr weeks. People bitching about systemic racism don't think this way and that's why they continually fail and lag behind.

https://youtu.be/lFW_4MWs5wM

[Corbic]

You wanna fix black neighborhoods, rid them of crime, make it safe for law abiding citzens to live a safe life. Make it safe so busuness will come back n spark the economy without fear of being robbed..


Then they will bitch that you are driving up property values and gentrifying the area. Look at all the people crying about Oakland, Brooklyn and Harlem.

"damn white hipsters driving up prices cause suddenly white people want to live in the city again!!"

[gbaby2089]

And this is the white mans fault?

Last i checked black americans can vote, they elect the officals that push these plans thru....

But again all i hear is complaining n no idea how to fix it....which it will never be!

You wanna fix black neighborhoods, rid them of crime, make it safe for law abiding citzens to live a safe life. Make it safe so busuness will come back n spark the economy without fear of being robbed..

But let me guess u think its white people wearn masks robn n killing black folks in south Chicago.


But to what you posted.....doesnt sound like racism to me, sounds like a fincial class issue.

Unless your will to prove to me the city is intentionally given lead based water to only black people and whites drink safe water that city planners make black people live by highways cause thats a black only zone.. but im gonna go out on a limb here and say u wont find facts on that.


Come on. your maken this worse then the 50s lmao...there was just a black president.

You?re hopeless. Just utterly incapable of complex thought.

[Corbic]

You?re hopeless. Just utterly incapable of complex thought.Says the brain washed commie.

[S14rebuild]

You?re hopeless. Just utterly incapable of complex thought.

Im glad we could have a nice conversation about this

[Corbic]

Im glad we could have a nice conversation about thisLove how he blitzed past my responses to his prison comment.

[S14rebuild]

Typical responses in here

[feito]

decades of liberal indoctrination through public schools. It's no wonder we're seeing what's happening on the streets today, brainwashed brats that at the first sight of conservatism in the white house their heads explode and have to go out and burn it all down. I read somewhere that the number one occupation among those arrested at protests is teachers :tweak:, can you believe that?
Failed coup attempt after failed coup attempt to get rid of the president and now this? The left has formulated and unleashed the perfect storm, in an election year, where a man they hate is being re-elected. Must be doing something right....
But oh, go ahead and vote biden if you care about the black community so much, he's done sooooooo much for them in his decades of being a career politician... Oh and if you're black, you must vote for him, 'cause otherwise, well, you aint...:rofl:

[future]

Keep America Great

[midnight zenki]

US Military veterans did show up in Portland to support the peaceful protesters this weekend (not right wing militias though). The Lincoln Project is on point https://youtu.be/tlmHVtVIJdU

[Corbic]

US Military veterans did show up in Portland to support the peaceful protesters this weekend (not right wing militias though). The Lincoln Project is on point https://youtu.be/tlmHVtVIJdUAirforce Vet got clowned in Austin

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/1ea3c58bec2b4ffc1a22d379c85b6b0b.jpg

https://youtu.be/PJVTB9pXxe8

[midnight zenki]

Airforce Vet got clowned in Austin

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/1ea3c58bec2b4ffc1a22d379c85b6b0b.jpg

https://youtu.be/PJVTB9pXxe8

Got clowned is how you refer to a vet that was murdered? Not surprised coming from someone that worships gold star recipient bashing, draft dodging and vet shitting on POTUS.

At the same time in my best Corbic voice, "hey look at this dumb fuck that couldn't even address my original pont, hehehehe".

[Corbic]

At the same time in my best Corbic voice, "hey look at this dumb fuck that couldn't even address my original pont, hehehehe".

What serpent?

You think this is okay? YES/NO

https://youtu.be/B8z0jFxOmFo

You still have not responded.



Got clowned is how you refer to a vet that was murdered?

Dude shot at a guy driving a car 5 times before getting laid out. Watch the video you tawt.

Cops already interviewed the driver and called it a clean shoot. Play stupid games win a fucking dirt nap.

Garrett is the epitome of the "just caused you served doesn't mean you aren't a POS".

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/edbd2c07ac773abbf078bcd8c93fd627.jpg


Not surprised coming from someone that worships gold star recipient bashing, draft dodging and vet shitting on POTUS.

This doesn't even make sense. Nice deflection.

In circles we go as you are stuck in your NPC Orange Man Bad loop.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200727/7e548de47aeef5b3a978fda7d8d5f591.jpg

[feito]

"vet that was murdered' lol
https://i.imgur.com/0VY9uNul.jpg

[midnight zenki]

[QUOTE=Corbic;6389333]


You still have not responded. Your so fucking dense man, I "responded" in my opening thought on the subject. Go back and read "peaceful protestors" So you tell me, is your question even relevant?

Dude shot at a guy driving a car 5 times before getting laid out. Watch the video you tawt. - Watched it

Cops already interviewed the driver and called it a clean shoot. Play stupid games win a fucking dirt nap. Dude took a risk and paid for it, no doubt about that or how rational the situation was. Disrespect for a veteran and human being is the point.

Garrett is the epitome of the "just caused you served doesn't mean you aren't a POS". No argument here on your blanket statement.

This doesn't even make sense. Nice deflection. - Speaking of deflection how about the Lincoln Project owning your sorry excuse of a president.

In circles we go as you are stuck in your NPC Orange Man Bad loop. Yes Corbic, Orangeman is bad, his polling numbers are in the shitter, he's losing

[feito]

it's funny how leftists think polling numbers are important to conservatives. It's like 16 again. You know what I do (and I assume most other conservatives do as well) when I get a call from a political campaign?:rofl:

[midnight zenki]

it's funny how leftists think polling numbers are important to conservatives. It's like 16 again. You know what I do (and I assume most other conservatives do as well) when I get a call from a political campaign?:rofl:

Of course I do, it’s your parties calling card. It’s called fraud.

[feito]

easy there kid, we're not the ones advocating for fraud-by-mail :rofl:

[midnight zenki]

easy there kid, we're not the ones advocating for fraud-by-mail :rofl:

Look at you already making excuses for losing.

North Carolina ring a bell? Here http://www.projectvote.org/wp-content/uploads/2007/03/Politics_of_Voter_Fraud_Final.pdf get educated on who cries foul the most and why this is really a non-issue.

Then google which party actually commits voter fraud and you?ll find your idols starring back at you.

[feito]

"excuses"? OMFG he actually thinks creepy biden stands a chance :eek2::rofl::rofl:

[midnight zenki]

"excuses"? OMFG he actually thinks creepy biden stands a chance :eek2::rofl::rofl:

So what did you think of the non partisan research article:drama:

[feito]

"non-partisan"...
from the same author:
https://i.imgur.com/HdItAWZl.jpg
But please, feel free to share more garbage :ugh:
Btw, if any of you are still supporting terrorist groups antifa and blm after all the chaos they've created around the nation, and still consider it "protesting", you are what's wrong with our country. TDS has gotten the best of you...

[midnight zenki]

"non-partisan"...
from the same author:
https://i.imgur.com/HdItAWZl.jpg
But please, feel free to share more garbage :ugh:
Btw, if any of you are still supporting terrorist groups antifa and blm after all the chaos they've created around the nation, and still consider it "protesting", you are what's wrong with our country. TDS has gotten the best of you...

Now I didn?t read that book but I?m sure you did in between googling it and responding to me so please share some citations that insinuate that the author and I support anarchist rioting as the solution.

Here?s some more just so you can?t claim that I?m leaning on a biased author

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.brookings.edu/blog/fixgov/2020/06/02/low-rates-of-fraud-in-vote-by-mail-states-show-the-benefits-outweigh-the-risks/amp/

https://www.brennancenter.org/sites/default/files/analysis/Briefing_Memo_Debunking_Voter_Fraud_Myth.pdf

[Corbic]

What serpent?



You think this is okay? YES/NO

https://youtu.be/B8z0jFxOmFo



. [B]Your so fucking dense man, I "responded" in my opening thought on the subject. Go back and read "peaceful protestors"

so please share some citations that insinuate that the author and I support anarchist rioting as the solution.

You are on record for calling violent, destructive, murderous rioters "peaceful protestors".

I even linked a video so there is no question of what event or situation is being discussed. , it includes acts of vandalism, battery, assault, arson and even the bastards attempts to blind federal agents with eye searing strobe lights and commercial weapons grade lasers.

You watched it. You reaffirmed "peaceful protestors".

We have agents, who are just trying to protect a court house, who are now permanently blind because of these disgusting twats.


https://nypost.com/2020/07/24/3-fed-agents-likely-blinded-by-lasers-pointed-at-them-in-portland-wh/


For what? What are they rebelling against? George Floyd was a thousand miles away, under a different government, agency and had nothing to do with Trump or the Feds.

Any copulation to people like you and them is an act of appeasement. Last time that was in vouge 200 million people died. (Nazis, Socialists, and the Commies).

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/NnbTMNVX5wE

[Future240]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/opinions/biden-trump-presidential-election-lockhart/index.html

A highlight of this writers advice

Don't be afraid to be boring.

Him being boring IMO is what will cause him the race. Biden has no flair. No excitement behind him. He does not resonate with centrist and is not far left enough for progressives. He is just another establishment democrat.

The split between the center left and left left I think will cost him the election.

[midnight zenki]

To be clear I am talking about the non-violent people out there.

Here you go Corbic, I?ll give in and spoon feed you my original statement above. It was only two pages back, it doesn?t say that I said the people burning the court house are non-violent so please suck it easy.

[midnight zenki]

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/27/opinions/biden-trump-presidential-election-lockhart/index.html

A highlight of this writers advice



Him being boring IMO is what will cause him the race. Biden has no flair. No excitement behind him. He does not resonate with centrist and is not far left enough for progressives. He is just another establishment democrat.

The split between the center left and left left I think will cost him the election.


Taken from the same article, "The public is tired of Trump's act. They want competence to replace the reality show. Stick to your own game. Always be the adult in the race." This was right after the don't be afraid to be boring. Rational people are sick of this shit-show. Pandering to your minority base only gets you so far.

I will agree that this is far from decided on either front. Donnie is divisive enough to draw moderate GOP voters away from him, I'd be more concerned about losing the center right. The left understand the consequences of division as witnessed by four years of precedent. it's possible it happens again but not probable.

[Corbic]

Here you go Corbic, I?ll give in and spoon feed you my original statement above. It was only two pages back, it doesn?t say that I said the people burning the court house are non-violent so please suck it easy.You are dancing and playing games.


MZ : Feds are arresting innocent peaceful protestors, fuck ya'll for not standing up!

Corbic : No, they are arresting violent pieces of shit, see video.

MZ : Reeeeee, it's all peace and love!

Corbic: watch video, is that non-violent? Yes or No

MZ: Reeeee! I already gave you my statement!

So again.

Do you support violent arsonists who are trying to blind federal officers and burn down the court house?

Or

Do you support the Feds trying to arrest instigators in the most peaceful and discrete way possible?


It's one or the other, there is no middle ground.


But you'll start Reeeee'ing about something unrelated and have everyone chase you down that path to prove you wrong. Just like this idiotic exercise of arguing whether or not said author is biased.

I wish I could give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just a troll. However, I suspect you are an NPC. Even if you are not, as the old saying goes "sometimes pending to be an asshole and being an asshole are the same thing".
.

[midnight zenki]

.

So again.
Do you support violent arsonists who are trying to blind federal officers and burn down the court house? Literally two posts up, no. But if I were you I'd post some bullshit meme about how they fucked around and found out

Or

Do you support the Feds trying to arrest instigators in the most peaceful and discrete way possible?


It's one or the other, there is no middle ground. The middle ground is what happened in DC in front of the church. This isn't just your narrative on Portland. Typical divisive rhetoric of, "Your either with us or against us"


I wish I could give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just a troll. However, I suspect you are an NPC. Even if you are not, as the old saying goes "sometimes pending to be an asshole and being an asshole are the same thing". Edit: Man your all over the latest neo-con libtard bashing, "When liberals take exception and accuse the trolls of dehumanising them, their taunters simply hit back by saying they have no sense of humour, therein proving the validity of their initial witty barb." You so witty ;)

[Corbic]

So again.
Do you support violent arsonists who are trying to blind federal officers and burn down the court house? Literally two posts up, no. But if I were you I'd post some bullshit meme about how they fucked around and found out

Or

Do you support the Feds trying to arrest instigators in the most peaceful and discrete way possible?


It's one or the other, there is no middle ground. The middle ground is what happened in DC in front of the church. This isn't just your narrative on Portland. Typical divisive rhetoric of, "Your either with us or against us"


I wish I could give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you are just a troll. However, I suspect you are an NPC. Even if you are not, as the old saying goes "sometimes pending to be an asshole and being an asshole are the same thing". Edit: Man your all over the latest neo-con libtard bashing, "When liberals take exception and accuse the trolls of dehumanising them, their taunters simply hit back by saying they have no sense of humour, therein proving the validity of their initial witty barb." You so witty ;)Reeeee! Punch Nazis!!

https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-new-alt-right-npc-meme-is-legitimately-terrifying.75478/


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200728/f928998d4ff907fc0567f2bff5eacd09.jpg

[Future240]

Taken from the same article, "The public is tired of Trump's act. They want competence to replace the reality show. Stick to your own game. Always be the adult in the race." This was right after the don't be afraid to be boring. Rational people are sick of this shit-show. Pandering to your minority base only gets you so far.

I will agree that this is far from decided on either front. Donnie is divisive enough to draw moderate GOP voters away from him, I'd be more concerned about losing the center right. The left understand the consequences of division as witnessed by four years of precedent. it's possible it happens again but not probable.

Good points, but never Trumpers, voted for Trump when it can time for it.

A lot of sanders supporters have vowed to sit home instead of voting for biden. Some even go so far as to say they will vote for Trump.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/04/29/bernie-sanders-supporters-not-yet-board-voting-joe-biden/3047485001/

Biden is to right for progressives and too left for some moderates.

Also lets keep it a buck.

No president has served only 4 years since Bush SR in 1992. America since then has voted

Democrat 8 years
Republican 8 Years
Democrat 8 years
Republican 4 years so far

Based on historical voting alone, likely Trump is going to be potus again.

[Corbic]

Good points, but never Trumpers, voted for Trump when it can time for it.



A lot of sanders supporters have vowed to sit home instead of voting for biden. Some even go so far as to say they will vote for Trump.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/04/29/bernie-sanders-supporters-not-yet-board-voting-joe-biden/3047485001/



Biden is to right for progressives and too left for some moderates.



Also lets keep it a buck.



No president has served only 4 years since Bush SR in 1992. America since then has voted



Democrat 8 years

Republican 8 Years

Democrat 8 years

Republican 4 years so far



Based on historical voting alone, likely Trump is going to be potus again.Bush Sr. was also following 8 years of Reagan and came up against Ross Perot who scored 19% on a 3rd party ticket.

Clinton was at the time a rather unknown, young charismatic celebrity who the media just drank up. This was not unlike Obama.

DNC party hacks have failed extensively if you think about it. Gore, Kerry, Hilary; all life long old bags of wind proclaiming change and progress with track records of the same shit different day.

[gbaby2089]

Good points, but never Trumpers, voted for Trump when it can time for it.

A lot of sanders supporters have vowed to sit home instead of voting for biden. Some even go so far as to say they will vote for Trump.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/04/29/bernie-sanders-supporters-not-yet-board-voting-joe-biden/3047485001/

Biden is to right for progressives and too left for some moderates.

Also lets keep it a buck.

No president has served only 4 years since Bush SR in 1992. America since then has voted

Democrat 8 years
Republican 8 Years
Democrat 8 years
Republican 4 years so far

Based on historical voting alone, likely Trump is going to be potus again.

I have a feeling a lot of the Bernie voters like myself who said they'd never vote for Biden have seen 140,000 people die as a result of Trump these last few months and are going to pinch their nose to beat the preferred candidate of nazis, pandemics, and incels.

[zombiewolf513]

And anyone voting for Biden is OK with pedophilia. He doesnt stand a snowballs chance in hell.

[dbeiler]

have seen 140,000 people die as a result of Trump these last few months

Wow the pain and suffering you've witnessed. This must be like D-day all over again.... end sarcasm.

I can't imagine how you feel towards McDonalds. Heart disease is still the leading cause of death, you know.

[Corbic]

Wow the pain and suffering you've witnessed. This must be like D-day all over again.... end sarcasm.



I can't imagine how you feel towards McDonalds. Heart disease is still the leading cause of death, you know. Except New York, a DNC controlled region, makes up half the Commie Cough Deaths.

How is that Trump's fault?

What did Biden/Obama due to prevent this? N1H1 (Swine Flu) happened under Obama and killed 89k people in the first year.

Maybe we should just ask Bill Gates, I mean the guy did eliminate Windows Viruses...

[gbaby2089]

And anyone voting for Biden is OK with pedophilia. He doesnt stand a snowballs chance in hell.

You realize Trump was tight with Epstein and commented on his teenage daughter?s breasts multiple times, right? That he wished Ghislaine Maxwell his best but had nothing positive to say about John Lewis or John McCain?

You don?t have any footing to stand on with that claim.

[Corbic]

You realize Trump was tight with Epstein and commented on his teenage daughter?s breasts multiple times, right? That he wished Ghislaine Maxwell his best but had nothing positive to say about John Lewis or John McCain?



You don?t have any footing to stand on with that claim.Cite the Proof brah.

We have endless pics of Biden groping women and children.

You have an illegal recording of Trump saying "women love him so much they let him grab them by the pussy".

Trump is on record back in ~2004 as offering full legal support in the initial Epstien investigation and prosecution. He's also on record as having banned Epstien from all Trump properties following complaints of Epstiens behavior.

No need for you to die on that hill.

McCain was a POS carpet bagging political hack.
If you hate Trump then logic would dictate you hated McCain 50x as much. So don't try an fake some sort of righteous BS and make the asshole into a martyr.

https://youtu.be/6DhBrTtn2Ho

[Future240]

partially shit title to call her Trumps new favorite covid dr, but Trump and his son both retweeted this woman's video.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/stella-immanuel-trumps-new-covid-doctor-believes-in-alien-dna-demon-sperm-and-hydroxychloroquine

[gbaby2089]

Trump calling for delaying elections.

Just another move from the fascist playbook.

[Future240]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53597975?SThisFB

[niabolds]

Biden vs. Trump. At this point, I'd vote anyone but Donald Trump. So Biden, it is. I can't wait for America to get rid of Trump.

[TheRealSy90]

I cannot support an old man that likes groping young children publicly and uninvited.

[Corbic]

Biden vs. Trump. At this point, I'd vote anyone but Donald Trump. So Biden, it is. I can't wait for America to get rid of Trump.Orange Man Bad! Reeeee! Anyone but Trump!

Literally Worse Than Hitler!!!

[Corbic]

A meanwhile, black shirts at it again.

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[SimpleS14]

Trump calling for delaying elections.



It's a recurring tactic that he deploys with success. Raises a question/thought that pushes the limits to what's acceptable, then backs away from it to some degree. It sows confusion or cast doubt into processes of government. Additionally, it's always a distraction from more troubling (or less favorable) news. In this case, the worse second quarter GDP drop in recorded history.

[feito]

A meanwhile, black shirts at it again.

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lol. Just parasites killing each other, and it's beautiful. Same thing with the group called "NFAC", idiots were shooting each other at a protest. Then there's the one idiot in Austin who though pointing an ak at a Texan was a good idea. Oh well, one less parasite :ugh:
Not to mention how this vermin run and hide at the first sound of gun fire. I don't think they understand what they're being order to push for. Bless their souls.

[Corbic]

It's a recurring tactic that he deploys with success. Raises a question/thought that pushes the limits to what's acceptable, then backs away from it to some degree. It sows confusion or cast doubt into processes of government. Additionally, it's always a distraction from more troubling (or less favorable) news. In this case, the worse second quarter GDP drop in recorded history.DNC says commie cough is to dangerous and the economy must collapse and we must vote by mail. This is so they can rig the election.

Trump is saying if it's to dangerous to go to the polls, we should wait till the Planmedemic ends.

This triggers a logic process failure loop in the Lefities.

"Give up rigging the election and get 4 more years or accept Trump as president for life!! "

[KA24DESOneThree]

oh jesus corbic

i cannot even

[Phlip]

Amazing how the Wuhan Bat Flu makes it where it is too risky to get out and vote and mail in voting is too risky despite having worked just fine for enlisted persons since the Civil War, so the election MUST be delayed.

-but-

The very damn same Wuhan Bat Flu is harmless enough for us to risk putting our kids in a petri dish, rushing to open schools.

[Corbic]

Amazing how the Wuhan Bat Flu makes it where it is too risky to get out and vote and mail in voting is too risky despite having worked just fine for enlisted persons since the Civil War, so the election MUST be delayed.

-but-

The very damn same Wuhan Bat Flu is harmless enough for us to risk putting our kids in a petri dish, rushing to open schools.First off.

Absentee Voting is not mail in voting. Not even close.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/absentee-ballot-vs-mail-in-ballot/

Second,

Funny how your worried about schools and those poor teachers getting sick but done give a flying fuck about the gal working at Walmart.

Kids are practically immune to the shit. So how about we stop letting people exploit us and make your own decisions?

Don't want your kid in school? Sign up for a remote learning program. Want them in school? Send them in. Teachers to afraid? Fire them.

Defund the Communist, Give Parents back their rights.


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[Corbic]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200802/1566c00d65ece6dbc5ca26f4bb69d74e.jpg

[gbaby2089]

I cannot support an old man that likes groping young children publicly and uninvited.

Then you're not voting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIvFHFboWEU

[midnight zenki]

Then you're not voting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xIvFHFboWEU


Yup, https://youtu.be/5K7sa7EeUGc

[Phlip]

First off.

Absentee Voting is not mail in voting. Not even close.

https://www.dictionary.com/e/absentee-ballot-vs-mail-in-ballot/

Second,

Funny how your worried about schools and those poor teachers getting sick but done give a flying fuck about the gal working at Walmart.

Kids are practically immune to the shit. So how about we stop letting people exploit us and make your own decisions?

Don't want your kid in school? Sign up for a remote learning program. Want them in school? Send them in. Teachers to afraid? Fire them.


1 - [link (https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2020/05/18/us-troops-routinely-vote-by-mail-why-cant-the-rest-of-america-do-the-same/)]

2 - you mispelled "you're" or you are too dumb to realize that your and you're are different words. Also, I am just as concerned for the safety of the teacher that lives with me as I am for the student who does. With the student in mind, I absolutely opted for virtual since I am working from home anyway.
Also, I need you to cite credible information from somewhere other than your bullshit shortbus echo chamber to compel me that children are "practically immune."

[zombiewolf513]

1)you do none of that shit for the loads of other viruses out there far deadlier than the scamdemic.
2)That your/youre thing was cringey af. You spelled 'your' as 'yout'... checkmate

[midnight zenki]

1)you do none of that shit for the loads of other viruses out there far deadlier than the scamdemic.
2)That your/youre thing was cringey af. You spelled 'your' as 'yout'... checkmate

Well, your location checks out. You guys keep doing the lord Darwin?s work out there.

[zombiewolf513]

people like you always have nothing to say except shit talk to people like me. Why would I care what you think of my opinion? LOL you cant even form an opinion of your own

[gbaby2089]

Dawg you're out here sharing fake info from d-level chuds like Aubrey Huff.

[zombiewolf513]

Sick burnarino brobeans

[Corbic]

1 - [link (https://www.militarytimes.com/opinion/commentary/2020/05/18/us-troops-routinely-vote-by-mail-why-cant-the-rest-of-america-do-the-same/)]

2 - you mispelled "you're" or you are too dumb to realize that your and you're are different words. Also, I am just as concerned for the safety of the teacher that lives with me as I am for the student who does. With the student in mind, I absolutely opted for virtual since I am working from home anyway.
Also, I need you to cite credible information from somewhere other than your bullshit shortbus echo chamber to compel me that children are "practically immune."


1.
"For the sake of our democracy and our country, at this time in our history, Congress needs to allocate and Trump needs to support providing $4 billion in federal funding to the states so that all Americans can have a say in how we deal with this unprecedented crisis."

Fuck No

Again Absentee Voting and Mail In are not the same. Apples and Oranges. It's a bullshit excuse that people are" too scared" when they are going to the grocery store and Walmart in droves and all using those self checkout lines.

If your 90 years old, dying of cancer or are truly scared, request the absentee ballot....

Can't get more left then the Atlantic and they called New York's mail in primary a disaster.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/new-york-election-failure-mail-in-voting/614446/

2. Gotcha, you're scared.

So have your wife find a new job and home school your kid. That's great that you can work from home, but millions of people can't. So refund their money and let them go to charter schools that are willing to open.

Is Mayo Clinic credible or is that an echo chamber?

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-in-babies-and-children/art-20484405

It's amazing how both topics are so politically skewed left.

[KA24DESOneThree]

I'm just trying to understand the growing wave of anti-intellectualism in America.

If you want to ask questions that impugn a party, either one (because we ARE a two-party system), because its candidate(s) or platforms are hopelessly useless, malformed from the beginning, or have major flaws that have been swept under the rug, you are labeled a librul, Trumper, or worse (haha CUCK).

It's been a while coming but there's something near pride now to use "alternative facts" in your conversation and debate. These "facts" never come from a source anyone knows; they just popped into being. They're being sprinkled into the American political arena by outside actors, people who understand that you need to have just enough fact and just enough fiction spread out over enough posts and enough websites that to wade through, to provide a counter-argument, is more time than most people are willing to devote. "A whole-ass doctor said this inane, factually-inaccurate shit and it must actually be true because, as I said earlier, dude's a whole-ass doctor."

[Corbic]

I'm just trying to understand the growing wave of anti-intellectualism in America.

Because "Wokeness" has become a religion. They don't care about facts, data, science, dialog, debate, etc. It's all about their feeling and sense of "justice".

They don't use science to find answers or solve problems, but rather to only reinforce their preexisting belief or agenda.

We see this on climate "change". Once called "Global Warming", this was rebranded since the science wasn't supporting the narrative. Now the world is going to end in 10 years if we don't spend trillions on socialism.

No data, no facts, nothing. "The debate is over, action now or we die!"

Gender and Sex. Again, actual data, genetics and countless scientific studies show the variances between men and women is not a "social construction" but deeply rooted in anatomical differences all the way down to the genetic level. From body chemistry, brain structure, muscular-skeletor build, etc.

Social, Economic and Criminality is all heavily tied to IQ. IQ is heavily tied to Genetics. Trying to discuss this brings shrieks and reees of "hate speech"

Generational poverty is tied directly to community and family. Nuclear families succeed, pregnant teens, unwed mothers and fatherless children fail. But "Reeeee Tax Benzo!! "

Social Policy. Just look at what's going on. A narrative that black men are being hunted and murdered is out there but it has ZERO statistical truth. A cop is 18x more likely to be killed by a black man than a black man is by a cop. An unarmed whiteman is 165x more likely to be killed by police then an unarmed black man... But whatever, right? Math is racist!

https://www.seattletimes.com/education-lab/new-course-outlines-prompt-conversations-about-identity-race-in-seattle-classrooms-even-in-math/

I can go on and on, but the ones that need to hear it, won't care. Doesn't fit their religious narrative.

"We can't prove it, but we know Trump is a Racist Womanizer with Ties to Russia!!!

So let's elect a proven racist womanizer with ties to China who spent 40 years putting in the policies we're rioting against!! Reeeeeee"

[KA24DESOneThree]

Have you ever played frisbee and it flies just out of reach of your fingers and you're like "oh man that sucks?"

[gbaby2089]

Because "Wokeness" has become a religion. They don't care about facts, data, science, dialog, debate, etc. It's all about their feeling and sense of "justice".

Heads up...

You're representative of the anti-intellectual viewpoint that is common in certain circles of the US. You don't use science in anything, other than the same garbage nazis threw around 80 years ago, which has been debunked hundreds of times.

[Corbic]

Heads up...



You're representative of the anti-intellectual viewpoint that is common in certain circles of the US. You don't use science in anything, other than the same garbage nazis threw around 80 years ago, which has been debunked hundreds of times.So where's your science that Trump is literally worse then Hitler?

[KA24DESOneThree]

Did anyone watch the Axios interview of Trump?

Truly epic stuff. Tremendous. I cannot believe someone that stupid was elected president.

[Corbic]

Did anyone watch the Axios interview of Trump?

Truly epic stuff. Tremendous. I cannot believe someone that stupid was elected president.Can't wait till Biden destroys him in the up coming debaaaaa.... Oh wait.

[KA24DESOneThree]

So what's your thought on the President of the United States spreading falsehoods about explosions in other countries?

Should we refer to him as Kim Jong-Trump from now on? At what point is his recklessness going to be met with stern reproach rather than "meh, all dem people blow each other up so he coulda been right?"

This is ridiculous. We NEED more viable third party candidates and we NEED to revise our electoral system- first past the post is ridiculous in a country this big and varied.

Some food for thought: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/08/the-truth-is-paywalled-but-the-lies-are-free

[S14rebuild]

So what's your thought on the President of the United States spreading falsehoods about explosions in other countries?

Should we refer to him as Kim Jong-Trump from now on? At what point is his recklessness going to be met with stern reproach rather than "meh, all dem people blow each other up so he coulda been right?"

This is ridiculous. We NEED more viable third party candidates and we NEED to revise our electoral system- first past the post is ridiculous in a country this big and varied.

Some food for thought: https://www.currentaffairs.org/2020/08/the-truth-is-paywalled-but-the-lies-are-free

Go run for the presidency.....dont complain, do work

[KA24DESOneThree]

You do understand that part of "representative democracy" is the fact that we hire people to be our proxy in government and to make the decisions we ourselves would make if we had the time to both make a living and vote on policy, right?

A nation of 330 million politicians would be a sight to see. The murder rate would instantly increase tenfold.

Edit: any input on the President's inability to wait until people smarter and better-connected than him come to conclusions based on facts and logic?

[S14rebuild]

Okay, so the people u voted for didnt win.....u sound like a sore loser.....

Vote again..... thats all u can do

[zombiewolf513]

bring back the good ol fashioned duel

[spooled240]

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-53671679/joe-biden-why-the-hell-would-i-take-a-cognitive-test

"I am very willing to let the American public judge my physical, mental...my phys-as well as my mental phys-fitness"

biden.exe has stopped working.

[S14rebuild]

I cant wait for the debates! Its gonna be fukn hilarious watchn trump just destroy sleepy joe. Seen him up there just have a mid show stroke will be all the proof the american people will need to see hes not even close to qualify to drive an uber, let alone run the country.

[Corbic]

I cant wait for the debates! Its gonna be fukn hilarious watchn trump just destroy sleepy joe. Seen him up there just have a mid show stroke will be all the proof the american people will need to see hes not even close to qualify to drive an uber, let alone run the country.Won't be any debates.

[Corbic]

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[Future240]

Biden at it again

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/08/06/joe-biden-latino-african-american-remark-392354

[KA24DESOneThree]

Corbic, I have to ask because the burden of proof is on you to prove the system guilty: how is anyone going to steal the election via mail-in ballots? How is that actually a problem? How was it never a problem until Cheeto Mussolini made it a problem without proof?

I'll get you started: voting by mail requires levels of inspection that can result in good votes being tossed out. New York tossed 1.84% of mail-in ballots in the 2016 election, California 1.75%, Kansas 1.48%, Arizona 1.28%. This totaled 452,247 votes. The five states that are mail-in only didn't count 0.7-0.9% of their votes. Source (https://theintercept.com/2020/06/18/vote-by-mail-elections/).

The question, though, is whether or not that number extrapolates after a revamping of the mail-in systems in all states.

If someone is turned away from voting because they refuse to wear a mask, how long until that's capitalized upon by conservatives as voter suppression?

Biden's getting senile, Trump's just a moron. Would you really like to watch a debate where no one can string a sentence together like an intelligent human being? It's a joke, an embarrassment, and the quality of our candidates is so bad I honestly don't know how anyone can vote for any politician who had a say in these two buffoons being candidates.

[S14rebuild]

Biden's getting senile, Trump's just a moron. Would you really like to watch a debate where no one can string a sentence together like an intelligent human being? It's a joke, an embarrassment, and the quality of our candidates is so bad I honestly don't know how anyone can vote for any politician who had a say in these two buffoons being candidates.


So ur not voting i take it?.....

[spooled240]

I'll get you started: voting by mail requires levels of inspection that can result in good votes being tossed out. New York tossed 1.84% of mail-in ballots in the 2016 election, California 1.75%, Kansas 1.48%, Arizona 1.28%. This totaled 452,247 votes. The five states that are mail-in only didn't count 0.7-0.9% of their votes. Source (https://theintercept.com/2020/06/18/vote-by-mail-elections/).

The question, though, is whether or not that number extrapolates after a revamping of the mail-in systems in all states.

If someone is turned away from voting because they refuse to wear a mask, how long until that's capitalized upon by conservatives as voter suppression?


If you can stand in line 6 ft apart at Home Depot and do self-checkout, idk how that is much different than standing in line 6 ft apart at a voting location to vote at a machine. If crowdedness is an issue they can just extend Super Tuesday to a week or so since they were already expecting huge delays in the mail-in ballots. Maybe go in alphabetical order by day or something to cut down on the crowds. Mail is so archaic and an immense waste of paper. We're not living in 1920.

[SimpleS14]

If you can stand in line 6 ft apart at Home Depot and do self-checkout, idk how that is much different than standing in line 6 ft apart at a voting location to vote at a machine. If crowdedness is an issue they can just extend Super Tuesday to a week or so since they were already expecting huge delays in the mail-in ballots. Maybe go in alphabetical order by day or something to cut down on the crowds. Mail is so archaic and an immense waste of paper. We're not living in 1920.

The difference, IMO, is that there's less face to face human interaction at a Home Depot self-checkout and more working kiosks available to get people through quicker...at least compared to what I went through in my district. Also some states/districts have fewer polling locations open leading to longer lines.

Early voting, drop boxes and more polling locations might help.

[Corbic]

The difference, IMO, is that there's less face to face human interaction at a Home Depot self-checkout and more working kiosks available to get people through quicker...at least compared to what I went through in my district. Also some states/districts have fewer polling locations open leading to longer lines.

Early voting, drop boxes and more polling locations might help.If it's so dangerous, let's just delay the election until a cure is found.

I mean think of the mail men and counters that will have to potentially touch millions of contaminated Ballots.

[Corbic]

Corbic, I have to ask because the burden of proof is on you to prove the system guilty: how is anyone going to steal the election via mail-in ballots? How is that actually a problem? How was it never a problem until Cheeto Mussolini made it a problem without proof?



I'll get you started: voting by mail requires levels of inspection that can result in good votes being tossed out. New York tossed 1.84% of mail-in ballots in the 2016 election, California 1.75%, Kansas 1.48%, Arizona 1.28%. This totaled 452,247 votes. The five states that are mail-in only didn't count 0.7-0.9% of their votes. Source (https://theintercept.com/2020/06/18/vote-by-mail-elections/).



The question, though, is whether or not that number extrapolates after a revamping of the mail-in systems in all states.



If someone is turned away from voting because they refuse to wear a mask, how long until that's capitalized upon by conservatives as voter suppression?



Biden's getting senile, Trump's just a moron. Would you really like to watch a debate where no one can string a sentence together like an intelligent human being? It's a joke, an embarrassment, and the quality of our candidates is so bad I honestly don't know how anyone can vote for any politician who had a say in these two buffoons being candidates.Because clearly, Russian agents will get copies of Ballots and mail in thousands of them to sway the election. Not exactly rocket science.

You are also again comparing absentee voting to blanket mail in voting. It's not the same thing.

As I already linked, the Trump Hating extreme left New Yorker highlighted the dangers of mail in voting.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/07/new-york-election-failure-mail-in-voting/614446/

New York primaries have been a disaster with votes coming in weeks late, no way to verify when they where mailed, authenticity, etc. 25% have been thrown out.

[LEG1T]

Anyone but Trump.

This country is filled with hate now more than ever.

No matter what happens i'm sure he will never concede with decency and his base will eat it up for breakfast.

Damn shame how he's handled just basic human empathy and judgement.

November can't come soon enough.

Not excited or overly thrilled about BIDEN, but he is surely way better than Trump IMO.

[S14rebuild]

Anyone but Trump.

This country is filled with hate now more than ever.

No matter what happens i'm sure he will never concede with decency and his base will eat it up for breakfast.

Damn shame how he's handled just basic human empathy and judgement.

November can't come soon enough.

Not excited or overly thrilled about BIDEN, but he is surely way better than Trump IMO.

So when trump wins again, ull move to Canada or mexico?

[LEG1T]

So when trump wins again, ull move to Canada or mexico?

I see you are confident in him winning.

I'll chime back in November. Hope our country is smarter than that. I still have hope.

[Corbic]

Anyone but Trump.

But why?

Best economy in generations. (for all races)
Reduced foreign wars and prevented some.
First person to have balls and stand up to China.

This country is filled with hate now more than ever.

But why? Is this Trump's fault? We didn't have Antifa or BLM and riots with Obama?


No matter what happens i'm sure he will never concede with decency and his base will eat it up for breakfast.

Based on what?


Damn shame how he's handled just basic human empathy and judgement.

How so?

November can't come soon enough.

Not excited or overly thrilled about BIDEN, but he is surely way better than Trump IMO.

How do b you figure?

What do you expect Biden to do to make things "better"?

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/HgMVLvvyie8

[LEG1T]

Corbic,

You and I both know that there is literally nothing I can say about Trump or his presidency that will change your belief, ballot if you're voting, or thoughts of him.

So honestly why bother asking questions?

If you have come this far and still think he is the best man for the job then more power to you.

I don't need a statistic, article, book report, news anchor or blogger to tell me how terribly bad things are going in our nation and believe me there are plenty of those, I can just walk outside and see and experience for myself. And I have been for years since this man took office.

There is more vocal hate now than I have ever felt. I see business shutting down left and right. I have friends and family being given a check for $1,200 as a survival wage that supposed to last for 4 months. I see kids locked in cages with tin foil as a blanket as they sleep on the floor. I hear our leader call other places shitholes as he consistently rants on twitter with disinformations and even goes as far as to post retweet of white power messages.

Na Im good.

I was raised better than that, and I believe our county is and can be better than that.

[Corbic]

Corbic,

You and I both know that there is literally nothing I can say about Trump or his presidency that will change your belief, ballot if you're voting, or thoughts of him.

You are not changing my mind. What I want to know is how you came to hate Trump and blame him for so much.


So honestly why bother asking questions? Because dialog is important.

If you have come this far and still think he is the best man for the job then more power to you.

I'm asking why you think he's not.

I don't need a statistic, article, book report, news anchor or blogger to tell me how terribly bad things are going in our nation and believe me there are plenty of those, I can just walk outside and see and experience for myself. And I have been for years since this man took office.

But none of this is his doing. Antifa, BLM, Riots, etc all happened under Obama and for generations before that.

There is more vocal hate now than I have ever felt.

Again, how is that about Trump? If anything it's a byproduct of the for-profit Corporate New-Entertainment industry and social media creating echo chambers that require louder and louder Reeeee's to get attention.


I see business shutting down left and right. I have friends and family being given a check for $1,200 as a survival wage that supposed to last for 4 months.

Again, how is this Trump's fault? He's actively trying to decouple us from China (source) and the areas hardest hit are also the areas controlled by the DNC. Much of the policy and action resulting in economic suffering is being done on the local and state level.

This is happening on a global scale. Uncle Joe wouldn't be doing anything different other than possibly stupid shit like national mask mandates.

I see kids locked in cages with tin foil as a blanket as they sleep on the floor.

And what? How is this Trump's fault? Separation policy was put in place under Obama/Biden. Lack of faculties are direct result of the DNC's effort to "Abolish ICE". We even had employees at woke furniture companies protesting and refusing to supply equipment.

I hear our leader call other places shitholes as he consistently rants on twitter with disinformations and even goes as far as to post retweet of white power messages.

A. They are shit holes which is my millions of their citizens try to enter the US Illegally.

B. Proof


I was *Brainwashed* better than that, and I believe our county is and can be better than that.

So your willing to vote for a corrupt senile pedophile who spent 40 years building the machine you are blaming Trump for.

Because what, Trump called Haiti a shit hole?

Can you point to any actual policy actions he's taken to cause any of the butt hurt you feel?

[Corbic]

. I have friends and family being given a check for $1,200 as a survival wage that supposed to last for 4 months. .

Oh that heartless monster! How dare he side step the DNC rabble trying to fill Covid Relief with crony pork...

https://abc7chicago.com/trump-live-stimulus-package-bill/6361220/

[KA24DESOneThree]

Because clearly, Russian agents will get copies of Ballots and mail in thousands of them to sway the election. Not exactly rocket science.

You are also again comparing absentee voting to blanket mail in voting. It's not the same thing.

It's not clear, though- and it's certainly clear that the Russians prefer Trump by a large margin. Wouldn't it be preferable that your guy gets the benefit of the fake votes?

Please link me to a reputable news source that says mail-in ballots are able to be compromised in the numbers you quote. I am trying to learn why I have never heard of this failure before, and why it's never been a problem before. In the past 20 years, there have been only 1,285 proven cases of voter fraud and more than 250 million votes cast by mail.

I concede that states are well on their way to fucking things up, and you saw the line in The Atlantic about the rickety USPS, right? So if Trump was interested, and I mean truly interested, about the possibility of vote manipulation and/or votes being miscounted/lost/late, wouldn't he be bolstering the USPS rather than contributing to its woes?

The approval process for South Carolina's strict absentee voting requires:

"1. Members of the Armed Forces or Merchant Marine serving outside their county of residence and their spouses and dependents residing with them

2. Persons serving with the American Red Cross or with the United Service Organizations (USO) who are attached to and serving with the Armed Forces outside their county of residence and their spouses and dependents residing with them

3. Overseas Citizens

4. Persons who are physically disabled

5. Students attending school outside their county of residence and their spouses and dependents residing with them

5. Persons who for reasons of employment will not be able to vote on election day

6. Government employees serving outside their county of residence on Election Day and their spouses and dependents residing with them

7. Persons who plan to be on vacation outside their county of residence on Election Day

8. Persons serving as a juror in state or federal court on Election Day

9. Persons admitted to the hospital as emergency patients on Election Day or within a four-day period before the election

10. Persons with a death or funeral in the family within three days before the election

11. Persons confined to a jail or pre-trial facility pending disposition of arrest or trial

12. Persons attending sick or physically disabled persons

13. Certified poll watchers, poll managers, and county election officials working on Election Day

14. Persons sixty-five years of age or older

15. Persons who for religious reasons do not want to vote on a Saturday (Presidential Primaries Only)"

So, it's fine for people to get an absentee ballot because they're working, old, or on vacation, but the moment they want to avoid a congregation point for an infectious disease, watch out! That's not terribly well-thought-out, is it?

However, 29 states have no-excuse absentee ballots which do not require approval (and in certain states, like PA, these absentee ballots are referred to as "mail-in" ballots). How are their no-excuse absentee ballots less secure than mail-in ballots, especially if the similarity is such that certain states use the terms interchangeably?

Five states (WA, OR, CO, UT, HI) have all-mail voting in place. Every vote is mail-in.

You continue to ignore scientific fact or do any research for yourself.

PS- Proof of white power retweet: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/trump-tweet-supporters-man-chants-white-power/index.html, saved retweet: https://factba.se/topic/deleted-tweets scroll down to Jun 28, '20.

[Corbic]

It's not clear, though- and it's certainly clear that the Russians prefer Trump by a large margin. Wouldn't it be preferable that your guy gets the benefit of the fake votes?

If that's your belief, then why do you want mail in votes? Seems odd...



Please link me to a reputable news source that says mail-in ballots are able to be compromised in the numbers you quote. I am trying to learn why I have never heard of this failure before, and why it's never been a problem before. In the past 20 years, there have been only 1,285 proven cases of voter fraud and more than 250 million votes cast by mail.

Jeffery Epstein, after 30 years of alleged child trafficking was never convicted. You gonna let your daughter fly on a plane with him?

Also who is a "reputable" news source in your lexicon? I gave you an extreme left source with the latest data.... So you can't cry "oh that was 30 years ago and Fox News is a Trump supporting POS"


I concede that states are well on their way to fucking things up, and you saw the line in The Atlantic about the rickety USPS, right? So if Trump was interested, and I mean truly interested, about the possibility of vote manipulation and/or votes being miscounted/lost/late, wouldn't he be bolstering the USPS rather than contributing to its woes?

Why should he? Why wouldn't house DNC reps be pushing more funding to the USPS? Why aren't they lifting all the insane restrictions? (Hint, they want it to be a disaster, they want the chaos and anarchy)

Did you know the Post office has been restoring 30 year old Gruman's mail trucks because congress won't let them buy a new truck unless it's under $30k, gets 50mpg and uses renewable energy?

Did you know the Postal Service can't increase prices, shut down nonprofitable centers or make route changes without congressional approval?

So again, if you can go to the liquor store and buy a 40... Why all of a sudden you can't go drop a piece of paper in a box?

If you think mail on voting will help trump, then why are you and your ilk the ones demanding it?

This falls way to far down party lines not to raise eyebrows and slam the breaks.

2020 most important election in 50 years.

2019 DNC flat out saying the economy needs to tank for Trump to lose.

2020 DNC wants entire economy shutdown for Commie Cough.

DNC wants mail in voting because of Commie Cough.

DNC/Left losing their shit rioting across the country.

If mail in voting was so great, why haven't we done it for the past 50 years?

If mail in voting is going to help Trump... Then why is it him and his supporters that are apposing it?


PS- Proof of white power retweet: https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/28/politics/trump-tweet-supporters-man-chants-white-power/index.html, saved retweet: https://factba.se/topic/deleted-tweets scroll down to Jun 28, '20.

Not even going to bother with the mental gymnastics here. CNN is not a reputable news source, just corporate propaganda. So I'm not wasting my time to validate their stupid claim.

[Corbic]

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[deolio]

glad we've got corbic around to recite every batshit conspiracy theory post from facebook, it sure has changed my opinion about politics :loco:

[shaggyjake]

Just dropping in to say that I'll be casting my vote for Jo Jorgensen. Not that it matters.

[TheRealSy90]

If every person that thinks their vote doesn't or won't matter and isn't going to vote, actually voted for Jo Jorgensen or whoever they wanted, they'd get overwhelmingly more votes than the two main candidates.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Not even going to bother with the mental gymnastics here. CNN is not a reputable news source, just corporate propaganda. So I'm not wasting my time to validate their stupid claim.

Cool. That's why I literally linked his deleted tweet. You don't need to validate their claim because I validated it for you by linking his deleted tweet. I led the horse to water, but I can't make it drink.

What's your news source? What do you consider not corporate propaganda?

Fox? Corporate propaganda.

OANN? Corporate propaganda with literal Russian ties.

CNN? NBC? CBS? NYT? The Atlantic? Cor-por-ate prop-a-ganda! SO MANY LEFTISTS! IT'S LIKE A FUCKING ART GALLERY OPENING!

Maybe you prefer your information from The Intercept? No, no, that doesn't make sense, it's privately funded and therefore could be slanted.

Current Affairs? No! They said something negative about Tucker Carlson.

The Financial Times? No, wait, that's owned by a Japanese conglomerate and requires a subscription.

Facebook? No, no, that can't be it. Their fact-checkers aren't infallible.

Twitter? No, jesus, no.

Local news subsidiaries? No, they're subsidiaries of the above corporations.

Well shit Corbic, I don't know where to get my news.

[deolio]

If every person that thinks their vote doesn't or won't matter and isn't going to vote, actually voted for Jo Jorgensen or whoever they wanted, they'd get overwhelmingly more votes than the two main candidates.

QFT! I?ve voted in every presidential election I?ve been able to and have never given my vote to the two party system. Partisan politics are aids, but it makes it easy for numbskulls to smash that mf vote button when the only options they see are red or blue.

[SimpleS14]

Kamala Harris is Biden's VP pick.

The VP debate should be interesting.

[Corbic]

Kamala Harris is Biden's VP pick.



The VP debate should be interesting.Sooooo


Biden, the old white dude that's a 40 year party hack... Is going to pitch an authoritarian drunkard...


Who's vote are they going for?

[S14rebuild]

Watch the dems crash and burn is halirous

[KA24DESOneThree]

Jesus christ. I fucking hate Kamala Harris.

Only a bunch of out-of-touch, privileged white people would nominate a former DA and AG at this point in time.

[S14rebuild]

:bigok::bigok::bigok::bigok:

[zombiewolf513]

Jesus christ. I fucking hate Kamala Harris.

Only a bunch of out-of-touch, privileged white people would nominate a former DA and AG at this point in time.

No shit. Its like in one ear and out the other with you guys.

[ronmcdon]

disappointing it was not Susan Rice the neocon.

[SimpleS14]

Who's vote are they going for?

Suburban Housewives /s



disappointing it was not Susan Rice the neocon.

Assuming Biden wins, she could be a Secretary of State pick

[Bluejayde]

Also voting for JOJO. Not the first time I've voted third party, I know she has no chance. Honestly don't know her policies either, just refuse to vote for the same old same old, whether it wears a blue tie or red.

[TheRealSy90]

But Jo does have a chance. An overwhelming chance if people would just actually go and fucking vote.

[Bluejayde]

But Jo does have a chance. An overwhelming chance if people would just actually go and fucking vote.

No, she doesn't. And no, they wont.

Last Saturday was the national protest/rally to let her into the presidential debate. There are three cities in my state of any substantial size (Missouri, so St. Louis, Kansas City, and Springfield) and the total turnout was under 25 people. No chance. The media controls who gets votes by who they give coverage to. I doubt 90% of the people in my state even know there's a third party contestant.

[Corbic]

No, she doesn't. And no, they wont.

Last Saturday was the national protest/rally to let her into the presidential debate. There are three cities in my state of any substantial size (Missouri, so St. Louis, Kansas City, and Springfield) and the total turnout was under 25 people. No chance. The media controls who gets votes by who they give coverage to. I doubt 90% of the people in my state even know there's a third party contestant.Exactly.

This is why we see the same established hacks and career politicians over and over.

The only reason Trump snagged the nomination was because of his already established celebrity, wealth, and because the media thought he was a great distraction from more "threatening" candidates.

We also saw this with the more quality outside candidates at the DNC, like Tulsi and Yang. They got pushed hard out by the Corporate Media and DNC Overlords.

So your left with rambling Joe and Lock'em up Harris.

My tin-foil hat says the DNC wants to loose and wants 4 more years of Trump. The GOP will have a huge power vacuum when Trump leaves office in 2025 and history has shown, it's very rare for a party to hold the presidency for 3 terms.

So the DNC will defacto automatically win the 2024 election and have built up enough hate, anger and lunacy that they could shove in the globalist friendly authoritarian socialist leader they dream of.

And for the idiots that think Trump will be dictator for life. He's 74, he'll be damn near 80 at the end of his second term.

[Alex Mcknz]

Any thoughts about Kamala Harris? Why do I feel like VP doesn't have a work to do and that that are just there for a title?

[Bluejayde]

Any thoughts about Kamala Harris? Why do I feel like VP doesn't have a work to do and that that are just there for a title?

She's part of the blue wall of silence, but happens to be in a black female's body, so that'll play well to conservatives and liberals alike, at least the DNC hopes so.

What did Biden ever do? What has Pence done? The VP is just an opportunity to calm down whatever outstanding fault the Presidential candidate is being called out on.

[Corbic]

She's part of the blue wall of silence, but happens to be in a black female's body, so that'll play well to conservatives and liberals alike, at least the DNC hopes so.



What did Biden ever do? What has Pence done? The VP is just an opportunity to calm down whatever outstanding fault the Presidential candidate is being called out on.Disagree.


Kamala isn't really black, she's half Indian and half Jamaican who grew up in Canada....

She's also an authoritarian boot licker who helped build that "systemic racist criminal justice system" everyone is rioting about.

VP is crucial in building the full package.

Biden was picked for Obama because Obama was an unknown and Biden was going to give him that 40 year political hack backing. He brought the blue hairs while reassuring the establishment.

Mike Pence, a solid conservative with a proven track record leading Indiana which under him and Mitch Daniel's saw huge reforms and improvements. Pence being boring and conservative counters Trump's bombastic personality and social liberalism.

[rvns14]

Disagree.


Kamala isn't really black, she's half Indian and half Jamaican who grew up in Canada....

She's also an authoritarian boot licker who helped build that "systemic racist criminal justice system" everyone is rioting about.

VP is crucial in building the full package.

Biden was picked for Obama because Obama was an unknown and Biden was going to give him that 40 year political hack backing. He brought the blue hairs while reassuring the establishment.

Mike Pence, a solid conservative with a proven track record leading Indiana which under him and Mitch Daniel's saw huge reforms and improvements. Pence being boring and conservative counters Trump's bombastic personality and social liberalism.

A useless distinction in how she is perceived in the county or her career.

[Corbic]

A useless distinction in how she is perceived in the county or her career.No, an important distinction when trying to play identity politics and just highlighting how racist and stupid the left is.

Because her skin is dark she is "black" and therefore part of the greater "oppressed black American experience".

Reality is she is privileged, descended from slave owners, commands wealth and power and has nothing in common with the struggles "black america" faces. She helped build the system everyone is calling "systemically racist".

Now, oh Lordy, she has some extra pigment! She's our savior!!

Gotta love the mental gymnastics everyone is doing to defend the Joe-Blow ticket.


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[KA24DESOneThree]

Hey guys, newsflash from Corbic: Shaun King (who I've never heard of but is apparently a prominent liberal who makes a living reporting and opining on politics) represents the entirety of the Democrat vote.

Yep, someone who runs PACs and may have a chance in the future to run for office or be hired as part of a campaign is going to get on the bad side of the DNC. That makes sense. He's spineless but not unintelligent- and most of all, he doesn't represent anyone other than himself and the people who like his tweets.

Trump is a trainwreck of a dumpster fire. He's a barely-literate, petty, mental defective who has somehow managed to not drown in a five-gallon bucket during 74 years of bumbling stupidity. Pence is a facade, a tin man without a heart to be paraded around to get the bible-thumper vote. They lost the popular vote by millions but won the election because that's just how we do.

Biden is a senile career politician who wants to see all bad people locked up, regardless if "bad" starts with "getting caught with weed." Harris is an ex-DA and ex-AG who said she'd use executive orders to set policy, who tried to make me (and tens of thousands of others like me) a felon for owning an object, who sent innocent or otherwise undeserving people to prison for life, and who is willing to lie to America about her record and her passion for the Constitution just to get a little further on the political game board.

These are our choices. Offensively vapid, milquetoast people with bad suits and annoying voices lying through their teeth while offering nothing of substance to a country of 330 million. And here we are, cheering for either team- because that's all this has become. The Hometown Heroes versus the City Boys. Get your popcorn while standing six feet apart and remember- Beyond Meat now offers delicious brats!

Grow a brain. Educate yourselves on the world around us and realize how goddamn stupid we are as a country, and change.

[zombiewolf513]

Just gonna put this out there...

They dont actually believe in science or any sort of universal truth. Youre (corbic) arguing with people that hate how cruel science and the universe actually is, so they subplant "their truth" in place and see the world through rose tinted glasses; contradicting every statement one after the next in their subjectiveness all in order to fulfil their ultimate emotional goal: the moral obligation to commit tyranny and physical violence against those who dont strictly obide by their dogma. While I applaude your effort, Im sad to say it will be for naught.

[rvns14]

No, an important distinction when trying to play identity politics and just highlighting how racist and stupid the left is.

Because her skin is dark she is "black" and therefore part of the greater "oppressed black American experience".

Reality is she is privileged, descended from slave owners, commands wealth and power and has nothing in common with the struggles "black america" faces. She helped build the system everyone is calling "systemically racist".

Now, oh Lordy, she has some extra pigment! She's our savior!!

Gotta love the mental gymnastics everyone is doing to defend the Joe-Blow ticket.


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Im saying, you are apart of the right and to you, she is not black enough. You have the problem, because I am black and she is similar enough in tone to me that she would have been beat on as bad as I would be in just my parents generation. Identity politics is a term the right uses, so why are you bringing up what her make up is? Id rather the right just says shes from Kenya and needs a long form birth cert then to get into the pantone chart on skin tone and start parsing the difference in myself (my family tree i have traced back to the plantation) versus someone who emigrated here in the 20th century.

[spooled240]

Trump is a trainwreck of a dumpster fire. He's a barely-literate, petty, mental defective who has somehow managed to not drown in a five-gallon bucket during 74 years of bumbling stupidity. Pence is a facade, a tin man without a heart to be paraded around to get the bible-thumper vote. They lost the popular vote by millions but won the election because that's just how we do.

Biden is a senile career politician who wants to see all bad people locked up, regardless if "bad" starts with "getting caught with weed." Harris is an ex-DA and ex-AG who said she'd use executive orders to set policy, who tried to make me (and tens of thousands of others like me) a felon for owning an object, who sent innocent or otherwise undeserving people to prison for life, and who is willing to lie to America about her record and her passion for the Constitution just to get a little further on the political game board.

These are our choices. Offensively vapid, milquetoast people with bad suits and annoying voices lying through their teeth while offering nothing of substance to a country of 330 million. And here we are, cheering for either team- because that's all this has become. The Hometown Heroes versus the City Boys. Get your popcorn while standing six feet apart and remember- Beyond Meat now offers delicious brats!

https://media1.tenor.com/images/6c52ab850b348ecab3dc13eeb0b41f9c/tenor.gif?itemid=6011012

The proverbial board game needs to be flipped and restarted.

Once again, it's time to choose your STD. Do you prefer Gonorrhea or Chlamydia? Can't decide? Feel free to watch various news outlets that will explain how each one sucks more than the other.

[zombiewolf513]

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The proverbial board game needs to be flipped and restarted.

Once again, it's time to choose your STD. Do you prefer Gonorrhea or Chlamydia? Can't decide? Feel free to watch various news outlets that will explain how each one sucks more than the other.

Case and point. Animals acting only on the stimulus provided by mainstream society, instict and emotion, reducing themselves to violence because theyre frustrated facts dont suit the mainstream's desired world. Sad really. Its the same reason late romantic era paintings depict warnings of a world in hell, the road to hell is paved with "good intentions".

[KA24DESOneThree]

Just gonna put this out there...

They dont actually believe in science or any sort of universal truth. Youre (corbic) arguing with people that hate how cruel science and the universe actually is, so they subplant "their truth" in place and see the world through rose tinted glasses; hypocritizing every statement one after the next in their subjectiveness all in order to fulfil their ultimate emotional goal: the moral obligation to commit tyranny and physical violence against those who dont strictly obide by their dogma. While I applaude your effort, Im sad to say it will be for naught.

Masterful. A post full of insight into the human psyche. Jung would be proud.

You have a moral obligation not to hurt (create physical pain upon) people, do you not? It certainly seems that you have a problem with committing physical violence upon people in the name of tyranny.

If you can transmit an infectious disease by the mere act of speaking, and that disease can hurt, and even kill, people, are you not potentially hurting them with every interaction? They can consent to the potentialities, but if you're in public, that's dozens of interactions per day.

I linked you to multiple sources stating that face masks help reduce transmission rates. I gave you the cruel science, but you've supplanted your "truth" and put on your rose-tinted glasses. You're the very one calling for physical violence upon people, and it's only because you cannot see the violence that you're rebelling and calling simple common courtesy "tyranny."

That's the problem with ignorance and stupidity. They're often presented under the veils of freedom and pseudoscience. They're often authoritarian, racist, xenophobic. Ignorance and stupidity breed fear and fear breeds illogic. You're operating with your lizard brain but you feel like you've kicked yourself into high gear. You think you're right up there with the big dogs putting out some big brain shit but you walked right into your own hypocrisy.

[zombiewolf513]

:picardfp:

[jdmgtom]

There's a lawsuit on your boy Joe Biden. search case #3:2019cv2407 on Justia.com or in google search.

Plaintiff: Cyrus A. Parsa, Judges, Uyghurs, Lawyers, The AI Organization, Inc, Falun Dafa Practitioners, Journalists, Tibetans, Victims of Persecution, Rape, Torture, Concentration Camps, Sex, Human, and Organ Trafficking and Organ Harvesting in China, Hong Kong, America and Around the World, Christians, John Does 1-Unlimited and The Worlds People

[spooled240]

Case and point. Animals acting only on the stimulus provided by mainstream society, instict and emotion, reducing themselves to violence because theyre frustrated facts dont suit the mainstream's desired world. Sad really. Its the same reason late romantic era paintings depict warnings of a world in hell, the road to hell is paved with "good intentions".

You didn't really think I'm inciting violence by posting that .gif?

The sooner people pull their attention away from this shit-slinging contest the right and left have engaged themselves in, the sooner people won't feel the need to flock to their preferred side/tribe/binary variable "1" or "0" for protection. I'm more on the conservative side, but that doesn't mean I don't notice Trump's tendencies to alienate half of America with his apathetic ways for managing current issues. He does nothing to unify this country and that's a problem. The left does the same thing when they treat anyone who is anywhere on the right side of the political spectrum as a racist/bigot/etc.

Have a mature discussion with someone on the other side and I guarantee you'll find more common ground than you think or at least what the media is portraying.

[S14rebuild]

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[KA24DESOneThree]

There's a lawsuit on your boy Joe Biden. search case #3:2019cv2407 on Justia.com or in google search.

Plaintiff: Cyrus A. Parsa, Judges, Uyghurs, Lawyers, The AI Organization, Inc, Falun Dafa Practitioners, Journalists, Tibetans, Victims of Persecution, Rape, Torture, Concentration Camps, Sex, Human, and Organ Trafficking and Organ Harvesting in China, Hong Kong, America and Around the World, Christians, John Does 1-Unlimited and The Worlds People

lol did you read the Justia page? "Dismissal without Prejudice."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Donald_Trump

You ever have so many lawsuits against you that they have a separate Wikipedia entry?

[S14rebuild]

lol did you read the Justia page? "Dismissal without Prejudice."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Donald_Trump

You ever have so many lawsuits against you that they have a separate Wikipedia entry?

Yea but u cant point the finger when ur not clean either....

[jdmgtom]

lol did you read the Justia page? "Dismissal without Prejudice."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_lawsuits_involving_Donald_Trump

You ever have so many lawsuits against you that they have a separate Wikipedia entry?

of course and all those look really recent like 2016+, you know that the deep state has been on Trump's nuts and trying to take him down everyday. Trump is the hero the American people need right now. #TRUMP2020

[KA24DESOneThree]

That's not how it works.

And by it, I mean using logic to form arguments.

[S14rebuild]

of course and all those look really recent like 2016+, you know that the deep state has been on Trump's nuts and trying to take him down everyday. Trump is the hero the American people need right now. #TRUMP2020

Ill ride with this....:werd:

[SimpleS14]

Kamala isn't really black, she's half Indian and half Jamaican who grew up in Canada....

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So what does that make Obama?

I'm not sure if you're serious, but (IMO) a majority of people will identify her as black. Sure you can acknowledge her parentage is half-Indian (South Asian) and half Jamaican, but at the end of the day, she is part of the Black-American community.

[Corbic]

https://media1.tenor.com/images/bfb10ae2ef6b745b0a933ecf56cc8ff4/tenor.gif

So what does that make Obama?

I'm not sure if you're serious, but (IMO) a majority of people will identify her as black. Sure you can acknowledge her parentage is half-Indian (South Asian) and half Jamaican, but at the end of the day, she is part of the Black-American community.Again, highlighting how idiotic race and identity politics are.


I guess all that matters is how she looks, not who she is or what she does... Right?

[Corbic]

Hitler phones Biden: https://youtu.be/PUif106VC-o

[SimpleS14]

Again, highlighting how idiotic race and identity politics are.

I guess all that matters is how she looks, not who she is or what she does... Right?

True, it does come down to an individual's perspective and opinion.

[LEG1T]

Trump is the worst president of our lifetime.

Here is the majority of what Trumps political base looks like...

Confederate Flags, Little to no diversity, Blue Lives & All Lives Matter shouters, Anti-maskers, People that call the cops on black people.

That is not the America that I want my kids to know, sorry.^^^^^^

Trump isn't for the minorities and almost everyone knows that.

Trump supporters are usually the ones yelling go back to your country.

100% ill take Biden and Kamala over the above anyday of the week.

[S14rebuild]

Trump is the worst president of our lifetime.

Here is the majority of what Trumps political base looks like...

Confederate Flags, Little to no diversity, Blue Lives & All Lives Matter shouters, Anti-maskers, People that call the cops on black people.

That is not the America that I want my kids to know, sorry.^^^^^^

Trump isn't for the minorities and almost everyone knows that.

Trump supporters are usually the ones yelling go back to your country.

100% ill take Biden and Kamala over the above anyday of the week.

We see ur vote, but america doesnt care...

NEXT

[Corbic]

Obama is the worst president of our lifetime.

Fixed that for you.

Here is the majority of what Trumps political base looks like...

Confederate Flags, Little to no diversity, Blue Lives & All Lives Matter shouters, Anti-maskers, People that call the cops on black people.

Reeeeee

And here are your people,

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That is not the America that I want my kids to know, sorry.^^^^^^

Is that why your side is all about not having kids, aborting kids when you do get pregnant and if they are born pumping them full of chemicals to swap their genders and pimp them at kiddy drag shows and on furniture apps?


Trump isn't for the communists and almost every communist knows that.

Except when you use facts and data. Under Trump colored people have done significantly better than Obama. More employed, higher wages, fewer in prison... There is a reason he has the highest rated GOP president amongst blacks.

Hell, 24% of Black men approve him. This is why the DNC is freaking out, pushed Pete our and pulled Kalama in.

https://www.blackenterprise.com/trumps-approval-rating-with-black-voters-may-be-higher-than-you-thought/

Trump isn't a racist. He isn't even conservative.. He just loves this fucking country and in the mentally ill Commie mind set Love America = Racist


Trump supporters are usually the ones yelling go back to your country.

And the BLM supporters are either white women attacking black cops or black dudes looting Nike stores..

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Fuck, Seattle a bunch of white communists forced the Black Female Police Chief to resign... Yeah, okay

100% ill take Biden and Kamala over the above anyday of the week.

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[jdmgtom]

Trump is the worst president of our lifetime.

Here is the majority of what Trumps political base looks like...

Confederate Flags, Little to no diversity, Blue Lives & All Lives Matter shouters, Anti-maskers, People that call the cops on black people.

That is not the America that I want my kids to know, sorry.^^^^^^

Trump isn't for the minorities and almost everyone knows that.

Trump supporters are usually the ones yelling go back to your country.

100% ill take Biden and Kamala over the above anyday of the week.

Fake news, majority of the never-Trumpers are white people that spread lies like this. They hate Trump for no reason because the main stream media got ya'll like sheep's. I'm 100% Cambodian/asian american, most of my friends and family, who served in the military, are for Trump for obvious reasons..

[rvns14]

havent seen colored people used casually in a while

[Corbic]

havent seen colored people used casually in a whileWhat's your preferred pronouns?

[KA24DESOneThree]

Corbic, can you provide a step-by-step instruction book for those of us who have yet to achieve your level of enlightenment?

I need to know how I can research about Obama being the worst President in your lifetime. Can you link me to OANN, Breitbart, or The Patriot Post so I can research Reagan, Bush, Clinton, W, Obama, and Trump? Also, if you have anything from the English-language Sputnik, that'd work.

Is everyone who's a Never-Trumper a genderqueer pansexual antifa BLM looter? Do you really think that everyone who dislikes Trump is an abortion-loving child-changer?

If Trump loves this country, and Kamala doesn't love this country, why did Trump and Ivanka both give money to her campaign in 2014? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-donated-kamala-harris/ and if you think Snopes is biased, go ahead and search here: http://powersearch.sos.ca.gov/advanced.php

Oh, Trump also donated to Gavin Newsom's 2010 gubernatorial run and Jerry Brown's 2006 bid for AG. They're both evil libs!

BLM supporters are also people like Dolly Parton. People who support the movement are people like me, who believe that we start with the most grievous wound America has and go from there.

24% of male black respondents approved of Trump- and 72% disapproved. That's 3:1 disapproval, a failing grade in anyone's book. Also from that same article, the BlackPAC survey shows that 77% of respondents think Trump is a racist.

Hating Trump is easy- just listen to him talk and compare him to other world leaders. Compare his diction and syntax to Obama (or W or Clinton). We haven't had anyone so monumentally idiotic in the White House since Simple Ron.

[zombiewolf513]

If Trump donates to her, and you hate trump, why would you vote for her? You make zero sense. Actually if there was a scale, youd be making negative sense.
No. Just stop.

[LEG1T]

Corbic, can you provide a step-by-step instruction book for those of us who have yet to achieve your level of enlightenment?

I need to know how I can research about Obama being the worst President in your lifetime. Can you link me to OANN, Breitbart, or The Patriot Post so I can research Reagan, Bush, Clinton, W, Obama, and Trump? Also, if you have anything from the English-language Sputnik, that'd work.

Is everyone who's a Never-Trumper a genderqueer pansexual antifa BLM looter? Do you really think that everyone who dislikes Trump is an abortion-loving child-changer?

If Trump loves this country, and Kamala doesn't love this country, why did Trump and Ivanka both give money to her campaign in 2014? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-donated-kamala-harris/ and if you think Snopes is biased, go ahead and search here: http://powersearch.sos.ca.gov/advanced.php

Oh, Trump also donated to Gavin Newsom's 2010 gubernatorial run and Jerry Brown's 2006 bid for AG. They're both evil libs!

BLM supporters are also people like Dolly Parton. People who support the movement are people like me, who believe that we start with the most grievous wound America has and go from there.

24% of male black respondents approved of Trump- and 72% disapproved. That's 3:1 disapproval, a failing grade in anyone's book. Also from that same article, the BlackPAC survey shows that 77% of respondents think Trump is a racist.

Hating Trump is easy- just listen to him talk and compare him to other world leaders. Compare his diction and syntax to Obama (or W or Clinton). We haven't had anyone so monumentally idiotic in the White House since Simple Ron.

Talk your shit sir.

Glad there is still people on here with a basic moral compass of understanding.

Literally you don't even need any sources to realize how bad Trump is just hear him speak, read his own twitter, or just listen to his supporters.

[LEG1T]

If Trump donates to her, and you hate trump, why would you vote for her? You make zero sense. Actually if there was a scale, youd be making negative sense.
No. Just stop.

He's simply proving the point of Trumps hypocrisy.

Bashing someone that you once supported kind of takes away your credibility. If she's so bad why was he supporting her. Trumps argument against her in that sense = NULL and VOID

AND Corbic, i'm not ignoring you... I realize we disagree on news sources, and beliefs which is fine everyone can have there opinion.

I'm pointing out what I have experienced in this country under his presidency and what I have observed coming directly out of his own mouth or personal actions.

[S14rebuild]

Talk your shit sir.

Glad there is still people on here with a basic moral compass of understanding.

Literally you don't even need any sources to realize how bad Trump is just hear him speak, read his own twitter, or just listen to his supporters.

i dont give a fuck about that...if ur gonna elect a president by how he handles his twitter account, your a fucking moron. From how uve presented yourself seems "legit"

[LEG1T]

i dont give a fuck about that...if ur gonna elect a president by how he handles his twitter account, your a fucking moron. From how uve presented yourself seems "legit"

The average american can get hired & fired due to social media. And you think its moronic to seek that the man responsible for running our nation who holds the most powerful job in the nation to handle his social media influence responsibly???

That's sad but not surprising, I always thought most of his supporters are out of touch with today's reality.

[zombiewolf513]

Being hired and fired over social media is moronic too. Its only a problem because people like you dig politics up into every other aspect of life

[S14rebuild]

Being hired and fired over social media is moronic too. Its only a problem because people like you dig politics up into every other aspect of life


We agree..im shocked

[jdmgtom]

That's sad but not surprising, I always thought most of his supporters are out of touch with today's reality.

Out of touch with reality? You dumb motherfuckers want to defund our police and take our guns away. in what reality do you think that would be okay in lol I mean... "CMON MAN" - Joe Biden

[KA24DESOneThree]

In a delicious turn of whataboutism and specious argumentation, I'm going to again throw out that Trump supported Kamala Harris.

The same Kamala Harris who, in 2010, was given a 7% pro-gun voting record by the NRA. She hadn't gotten better by 2014, and here he was, a silver-spoon real estate mogul, giving thousands of dollars to her campaign. A campaign where a known position was gun control.

The beauty of our government is that it feeds itself. The bad news is that it's the Human Centipede.

[S14rebuild]

In a delicious turn of whataboutism and specious argumentation, I'm going to again throw out that Trump supported Kamala Harris.

The same Kamala Harris who, in 2010, was given a 7% pro-gun voting record by the NRA. She hadn't gotten better by 2014, and here he was, a silver-spoon real estate mogul, giving thousands of dollars to her campaign. A campaign where a known position was gun control.

The beauty of our government is that it feeds itself. The bad news is that it's the Human Centipede.


Okay, but shes on the other team....whats a man todo?

But look on the bright side.. her and biden get along...oh wait

[zombiewolf513]

You realize trump banned bump stocks with an EO right? Who gives a shit about a measly few thousand dollars from one tough on crime/ anti-2A democrat to another. Are you trolling?

[Corbic]

Corbic, can you provide a step-by-step instruction book for those of us who have yet to achieve your level of enlightenment?

Travel, read, listen to all arguments, trust in logic, science and God. Study history from all view points. Learn to spot propaganda.



I need to know how I can research about Obama being the worst President in your lifetime. Can you link me to OANN, Breitbart, or The Patriot Post so I can research Reagan, Bush, Clinton, W, Obama, and Trump? Also, if you have anything from the English-language Sputnik, that'd work.

Same can be said for your idiotic comments about a Trump. The difference is we can go and highlight actual global and economic policies that negatively impacted America and endless lies and false hopes from Obama.

The fact that according to you and LBGIT that America is this awful racist shit show indicates Obama did nothing. What happen to all that Hope and Change? How is it we had Bush but no Pantifa or BLM. The we get Obama and suddenly the streets are full of shrieking commies in burning shit down.... But you want to blame Trump for that...

The pussy hat brigade is out demanding to burn the Whitehouse down a d cut Trump's head off literally a few weeks after the guy takes office. They are shrieking he's destroyed women's rights.... Um, fuck how? The dude didn't get his DVR setup yet.


Is everyone who's a Never-Trumper a genderqueer pansexual antifa BLM looter? Do you really think that everyone who dislikes Trump is an abortion-loving child-changer?

Yes.


If Trump loves this country, and Kamala doesn't love this country, why did Trump and Ivanka both give money to her campaign in 2014? https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-donated-kamala-harris/ and if you think Snopes is biased, go ahead and search here: http://powersearch.sos.ca.gov/advanced.php

Oh, Trump also donated to Gavin Newsom's 2010 gubernatorial run and Jerry Brown's 2006 bid for AG. They're both evil libs!

Wait... You mean Trump.... Who is a real estate tycoon with billions of dollars invested in California.... In a heavily regulated licensed industry notorious for palm greasing and corruption.... Had to pay to play?

GTFO

Next your going to me that like he knew the Clinton's and donated to Republicans as well...

Or that he even made this a part of his campaign, that after 30 of dealing with corrupt selfish politicians he wanted to drain the swamp and the RINOs and DNC shit themselves...

Trump gave them assholes money to get shit built and make himself a fortune. A better question is if "Trump is Worse than Hitler" why did those people take his money, give him favors and suck us fucking dick?

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BLM supporters are also people like Dolly Parton.

And Dolly is a piece of shit. What's your point?
Idiot celebrities and dumbass suburban house wives posting black squares of Facebook and I'll informed twats trying to rack up the woke points and show how virtuous they are.

BLM is a terrorist organization that wants communism. It has nothing to do with improving back communities or stopping crime.

https://blacklivesmatter.com/

"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and ?villages? that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."

People who support the movement are people like me, who believe that we start with the most grievous wound America has and go from there.

Taxes?


24% of male black respondents approved of Trump- and 72% disapproved. That's 3:1 disapproval, a failing grade in anyone's book.

Again homie, crack a history book. Look at past GOP presidents and candidates that had maybe a 3-4% approval from black men. That's an 800% increase.

Also from that same article, the BlackPAC survey shows that 77% of respondents think Trump is a racist.

Soooo 77% of respondents are retarded?

Hating Trump is easy- just listen to him talk and compare him to other world leaders. Compare his diction and syntax to Obama (or W or Clinton). We haven't had anyone so monumentally idiotic in the White House since Simple Ron.

Yup, so stupid he became a billionaire and stole the election from your prom queen. Sorry your that superficial that looks and syntax are all that matter.

[Corbic]

In a delicious turn of whataboutism and specious argumentation, I'm going to again throw out that Trump supported Kamala Harris.

The same Kamala Harris who, in 2010, was given a 7% pro-gun voting record by the NRA. She hadn't gotten better by 2014, and here he was, a silver-spoon real estate mogul, giving thousands of dollars to her campaign. A campaign where a known position was gun control.

The beauty of our government is that it feeds itself. The bad news is that it's the Human Centipede.And what? Again, Trump as a business man, donated to both parties to grease palms to make money. If he's as awful and vile as everyone claims, why are they taking his money to help.him get richer?

I've also highlighted 4 years ago that Trump was never a 2A supporter and even made comments back in the 80's supporting the ban of automatic weapons.

[Bluejayde]

trust in logic, science and God.

:picardfp:


The fact that according to you and LBGIT that America is this awful racist shit show indicates Obama did nothing.


The fact that you consistently resort to using what people do in their bedrooms -or who they love- as an insult, shows exactly what kind of person you are.

[Corbic]

:picardfp:



The fact that you consistently resort to using what people do in their bedrooms -or who they love- as an insult, shows exactly what kind of person you are.Reeeeeeeeeee

[KA24DESOneThree]

First, let me preface this with something that should be extremely clear by my posts on the front page of this subforum: I am not a Democrat or a Republican. I have no dog in that fight. I care only about how free we can get within the confines of our establishment. I distrust and despise our government as it sits.

Corbic, again, you're not providing documentation to back up your claims. I trust in logic and science, I don't need god. God plays no role in our secular government.

You say "learn to spot propaganda," and yet you parrot it. You say to use logic, yet you're willing to forego it when it hurts ya boi. That's... not very logical.

I claim Trump is an idiot- anyone can access hundreds of tweets and thousands of spoken words that show his intelligence level is sub-optimal for a head of state. His eloquence is matched only by the fit of his suit.

I claim Trump is a hypocrite, so you tell me he comes from an industry notorious for palm greasing and corruption. Was he the only clean developer? If so, how? If he greased palms and furthered corruption, was that not pissing into the swamp? Or was he gathering intel, sneakily finding all the holes that needed plugging?

Why is Dolly Parton a piece of shit? What has she done to be called that? Are you talking about her infidelity, or is the fact that she supports the lgbtq community and BLM enough to be a piece of shit? You gonna back it up or is this one that god is gonna decide for you? "Oh lord, guide mine fingers so that they may cast aspersions upon thine enemies. Smite them, oh lord."

BLM, as an organization, has some reprehensible aspects. It also has some aspects that would be and should be considered aspirational:
"By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives."

"Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.

We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people."

I dunno dude. That sounds pretty fucking good to me. It sounds like a message I'd like to broadcast to all my friends. It also sounds an awful lot like "black lives matter and, by extension, all lives matter."

The most grievous wound America has right now is how it treats minorities- its poor, its POC, its ex-cons. If we start with black America, we start with places like Selma, Alabama and Baltimore, Maryland. We start with places that the rest of America has forgotten- places where businesses have moved, where jobs no longer exist, where the social net has worn through, where welfare hasn't addressed root issues, where people get out of prison not reformed but hardened, where rampant drug use and addiction is met with jail time, not rehab, where education plummets and craters. We need to address those areas, make them whole again. That means massive overhauls of welfare, of business taxation, of healthcare, of the judicial system. Immense issues of the utmost importance that are being constantly downplayed and complained about. Immense issues that the Dems and Republicans don't agree about and that most of their voters just don't truly care about, so they're not addressed.

Regarding surveys, there we go again, cherry-picking numbers. The ones that support Cheeto are true and laudable, the ones that don't are "retarded." Where's the logic in that? Oh logic, where art thou?

Y'all act like Cheeto's some sort of self-made man. Like he's someone to look up to. Acts more like someone to look down on.

[S14rebuild]

"CHEETO" thats Mr.President to you boy. Has achieved more then u could ever imagine but here you are sayn to look down on him....your all upside down

[Corbic]

First, let me preface this with something that should be extremely clear by my posts on the front page of this subforum: I am not a Democrat or a Republican. I have no dog in that fight. I care only about how free we can get within the confines of our establishment. I distrust and despise our government as it sits.

But your cool with people torching businesses, trashing cars, blocking highways...

Corbic, again, you're not providing documentation to back up your claims.

What claim are you talking about?

I trust in logic and science, I don't need god. God plays no role in our secular government.

God is the fundamental basis of our government. If you don't understand that, you don't understand why America is the way it is compared to the Soviets or Communist Chinese.

Your very human rights and endowed by God, not by a man with a gun or a piece of paper or a president. By God.

The founders, and pretty much everyone up until the 1990's was extremely religious. They did not build an atheist country or one under the premise that religion, christianity and God are a bunch of cute hookum. It was very real and very important to them.

"separation of church and state" is just that. Unlike England which mandated all citizens be members of the English Church and pay dues, or other counties with government offices so intertwined with the Catholic Church that the Vatican practically had veto power... We built something very different.

Also, unlike many imperium or dictatorships,
supreme ultimate power doesn't lie with the ruler.


You say "learn to spot propaganda," and yet you parrot it. You say to use logic, yet you're willing to forego it when it hurts ya boi. That's... not very logical.

Cite an example. You asked how to develop yourself, I gave examples.

I claim Trump is an idiot- anyone can access hundreds of tweets and thousands of spoken words that show his intelligence level is sub-optimal for a head of state. His eloquence is matched only by the fit of his suit.

Again, idiotic NPC rhetoric.

Please cite what is "optimum" intelligence for POTUS. Should we have a minimum criteria? Do you think Joe Biden meets that threshold?

Your argument is purely based on esthetics. You don't like how he looks and sounds, so he's an idiot.

I work with plenty of Indians who are fucking engineering geniuses. Like legit mind blowing. If I took your approach, they would all be considered low functioning retards since they have heavy accents, terrible english grammar and bizzare sense of fashion. Don't even get me started on their humor.

I claim Trump is a hypocrite, so you tell me he comes from an industry notorious for palm greasing and corruption. Was he the only clean developer? If so, how? If he greased palms and furthered corruption, was that not pissing into the swamp? Or was he gathering intel, sneakily finding all the holes that needed plugging?

So Trump is a hypocrite because Kamala and Joe are part of an oligarchy that extorts business owners and industrials for camping donations by leveraging political power....


Why is Dolly Parton a piece of shit? What has she done to be called that? Are you talking about her infidelity, or is the fact that she supports the lgbtq community and BLM enough to be a piece of shit? You gonna back it up or is this one that god is gonna decide for you? "Oh lord, guide mine fingers so that they may cast aspersions upon thine enemies. Smite them, oh lord."

Why'd you name drop her like it had any significance on this conversation?


BLM, as an organization, has some reprehensible aspects
It also has some aspects that would be and should be considered aspirational:
"By combating and countering acts of violence, creating space for Black imagination and innovation, and centering Black joy, we are winning immediate improvements in our lives."

"Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.

We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people."

I dunno dude. That sounds pretty fucking good to me. It sounds like a message I'd like to broadcast to all my friends. It also sounds an awful lot like "black lives matter and, by extension, all lives matter."

So just so where clear.

Because BLM posts some rosey propaganda fluff your willing to over look their actions of sanctioned riots, murder, assaults, looting and lawlessness..

But Trump shares a rude meme or wears a frumpy suit and you refuse to accept his positive actions and goals....

https://youtu.be/XzZLlsxNcpE



The most grievous wound America has right now is how it treats minorities- its poor, its POC, its ex-cons. If we start with black America, we start with places like Selma, Alabama and Baltimore, Maryland. We start with places that the rest of America has forgotten- places where businesses have moved, where jobs no longer exist, where the social net has worn through, where welfare hasn't addressed root issues, where people get out of prison not reformed but hardened, where rampant drug use and addiction is met with jail time, not rehab, where education plummets and craters. We need to address those areas, make them whole again. That means massive overhauls of welfare, of business taxation, of healthcare, of the judicial system. Immense issues of the utmost importance that are being constantly downplayed and complained about. Immense issues that the Dems and Republicans don't agree about and that most of their voters just don't truly care about, so they're not addressed.

Yeah, no.

Baltimore? Your gonna lay that DNC shit show on the table and blame. Trump, Republicans and whites? The FUBU city?

Why do "we" need to make them whole again? Why don't "they" vote for actual fucking change instead.

Wanna fix that rat nest? Fire every single government employee and replace them with people hired exclusively on merit and not a single iota given toward race, diversity or inclusion.

Make school 12 months a year, 9hrs a day and privatize it with a tier system that forces students to compete. End all wealth fare and force people to take crappy clean up jobs in order to collect assistance.


Regarding surveys, there we go again, cherry-picking numbers. The ones that support Cheeto are true and laudable, the ones that don't are "retarded." Where's the logic in that? Oh logic, where art thou?[/QUOTE]

I didn't cherry pick anything. You tried to discredited the fact that a record number of black men have been red pilled and support Trump by saying the majority disapprove of him.

Your failing to understand the significance of what you are looking at.

The DNC is the black communities enemy, not Trump, not "White America", not the police and not the GOP.

I highlighted above, BLM is actively advocating dismantling of the nuclear family. They are calling it "European" even those it's origins is found across the world throughout history as the foundation of success.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/0674532600/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_i_F9hoFb439PMDA


Y'all act like Cheeto's some sort of self-made man. Like he's someone to look up to. Acts more like someone to look down on.

Um, he is a self made man.

The dude basically started off with a few hundred grand, a building and became a billionaire, house hold name, one of the most famous businessmen in the world and oh.. Fucking President of the United States.

Sure, many ventures he invested in failed, also, many exploded. He was one of the first to foresaw the rise of urban real estate markets. He fucking LOVES this country. He LOVES New York and Chicago. He spent billions there investing in real estate, brining in business and jobs.

He is the embodiment of the American dream. His father, Fred, worked as a butcher at age ten, took night classes learning to become a carpenter. Worked as a lumber boy on construction sites and eventually got a loan to build a grocery store.

But yes, all of Trump's success is from being a white privileged male and a bumbling moron.

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/u_ktRTWMX3M

Some ya'll lazy fucks need to watch this and realize if you want to get ahead in this world you need to work +100hrs a week.

YOU are the spoiled privileged ones if you think working 30hrs a week at Costco or a Starbucks entitles you to a $500k downtown apartment and brand new Tesla.

[LEG1T]

Does anyone here believe in systematic racism?

Or do you guys think that’s another figment of imagination.

[ronmcdon]

bizzare sense of fashion. Don't even get me started on their humor.
.

this I must know! would you be willing to give specific visual examples?

the humor is pretty great
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.urbandictionary.com/define.php%3Fterm%3Dban%2520chod%26amp%3Dtrue

[Corbic]

Does anyone here believe in systematic racism?

Or do you guys think that?s another figment of imagination.Is that a joke, asking for a friend.

[S14rebuild]

Does anyone here believe in systematic racism?

Or do you guys think that?s another figment of imagination.


Lmfao... go a head, show me what law is set/made that is racist in todays government......

[KA24DESOneThree]

But your cool with people torching businesses, trashing cars, blocking highways...

Response: Show me where I've said that once. Please tell me you're not using the "one bad apple" argument or I'ma upscale that motherfucker all the way to Pennsylvania Avenue.

What claim are you talking about?

Response: "Obama was the worst president in our lifetimes."

God is the fundamental basis of our government. If you don't understand that, you don't understand why America is the way it is compared to the Soviets or Communist Chinese.

Response: Where in the Constitution are you finding this? Where in the Bill of Rights? In the Declaration of Independence? God is not the fundamental basis of our government, or it would be mentioned.

Your very human rights and endowed by God, not by a man with a gun or a piece of paper or a president. By God.

Response: They are endowed by virtue of being born. That was one of the reasons why the US was considered free-er than other countries, the understanding of negative rights. Our rights come with birth, they aren't granted by government.

Cite an example. You asked how to develop yourself, I gave examples.

Response: You consider a positive poll truth and a negative poll "retarded." Why? It is illogical to reject things on their face, without rationale behind the rejection. You agreed with the statement that "everyone who is a Never-Trumper is a genderqueer pansexual antifa BLM looter." Logicify that statement.

Again, idiotic NPC rhetoric.

Please cite what is "optimum" intelligence for POTUS. Should we have a minimum criteria? Do you think Joe Biden meets that threshold?

Your argument is purely based on esthetics. You don't like how he looks and sounds, so he's an idiot.

I don't have a citation for "optimum" intelligence. I know what sub-optimal intelligence is when it comes to business or politics, and it's having the vocabulary of a third-grader. It's not being smart enough to properly read and interpret graphs.

Part of our world, like it or not, is founded on how people look and how people talk. Our president is our face to the world, and has to make us look good.

So Trump is a hypocrite because Kamala and Joe are part of an oligarchy that extorts business owners and industrials for camping donations by leveraging political power....

Do you understand what an oligarchy is? Do you think all politicians are part of the oligarchy, or only the ones you dislike?

Why'd you name drop her like it had any significance on this conversation?

Because I knew you'd have nothing to say. I knew your anti-BLM switch would be flipped and you'd just "uh uh piece of shit uh uh."

So just so where clear.

Because BLM posts some rosey propaganda fluff your willing to over look their actions of sanctioned riots, murder, assaults, looting and lawlessness..

Just so we're clear, you have proof that BLM has sanctioned riots, murder, assaults, looting, and lawlessness? Where are your bona fides, homes?

But Trump shares a rude meme or wears a frumpy suit and you refuse to accept his positive actions and goals....

Yeah, no.

Baltimore? Your gonna lay that DNC shit show on the table and blame. Trump, Republicans and whites? The FUBU city?

Why do "we" need to make them whole again? Why don't "they" vote for actual fucking change instead.

If you love your country, you want to make it better. It's not us and them, btw. They're our countrymen, our fellow citizens. When do you have time to research your candidates when you're working two jobs and raising two kids?

Wanna fix that rat nest? Fire every single government employee and replace them with people hired exclusively on merit and not a single iota given toward race, diversity or inclusion.

What's your interim plan? How do you want to implement that system with the labor pool available? What's the transition period? You can't just click your heels and enact change, Dorothy.

Make school 12 months a year, 9hrs a day and privatize it with a tier system that forces students to compete. End all wealth fare and force people to take crappy clean up jobs in order to collect assistance.

You're kidding, right? Only someone with zero understanding of children's development would want 12-month school years. What is this, Dickensian England? For shits and giggles, let's replace one school day a week with a "manual labor day" so they learn how to toughen up and pay for their own schooling!

You want to end welfare and replace it with menial labor. Do you know where menial labor gets a country? Nowhere, just like handing out a check just for existing. I guess it would be a prettier lack of forward progress.

I didn't cherry pick anything. You tried to discredited the fact that a record number of black men have been red pilled and support Trump by saying the majority disapprove of him.

Your failing to understand the significance of what you are looking at.

How did you not cherry pick, again? What were the polling numbers and margins of error? Were they similar to or administered by previous polls? Are you sure? I framed numbers differently than you did. $1750 is $250 more than $1500 or $250 less than $2000.

The DNC is the black communities enemy, not Trump, not "White America", not the police and not the GOP.

All of the above are enemies. All of the above are allies. Government is ineffectual as it sits. The DNC, Trump, white America, the police, and the GOP all need work- and badly. You can fix Trump by dumping Trump.

I highlighted above, BLM is actively advocating dismantling of the nuclear family. They are calling it "European" even those it's origins is found across the world throughout history as the foundation of success.

They're advocating community ownership of parenting issues, of scheduling conflicts, of the only jobs available being the only jobs available and that sometimes, your neighbors need to be counted on like family.

Um, he is a self made man.

The dude basically started off with a few hundred grand, a building and became a billionaire, house hold name, one of the most famous businessmen in the world and oh.. Fucking President of the United States.

He "basically" started off with a "few hundred grand" and a "building." Those are some gold-ass bootstraps. Hell, he could afford to pay someone to put on his boots for him where he fucking started. Shit, just like Drake he started from the bottom. I never knew.

Sure, many ventures he invested in failed, also, many exploded. He was one of the first to foresaw the rise of urban real estate markets. He fucking LOVES this country. He LOVES New York and Chicago. He spent billions there investing in real estate, brining in business and jobs.

You're shitting me, right? He was "one of the first to foresee the rise of urban real estate markets?" How the fuck could you miss it if the rich are getting richer? "Local man sees tracks, hears horn, foresees train."

He is the embodiment of the American dream. His father, Fred, worked as a butcher at age ten, took night classes learning to become a carpenter. Worked as a lumber boy on construction sites and eventually got a loan to build a grocery store.

Sure sounds like Fred lived the dream and Donnie just benefited, eh?

But yes, all of Trump's success is from being a white privileged male and a bumbling moron.

I'm not writing this for you. I'm writing this for the fence-sitters. You're a True Believer, there is no changing your mind.

[feito]

https://i.imgur.com/g9npm6Cl.jpg

[Corbic]

I'm not writing this for you. I'm writing this for the fence-sitters. You're a True Believer, there is no changing your mind.Love how you just dance around everything. I give you a 9/10 in metal gymnastics.

[Corbic]

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/new-zealand-pm-jacinda-ardern-delays-election-after-coronavirus-return-2280439

Hmmm...

Take their guns...

Delay their elections...

[jdmgtom]

Does anyone here believe in systematic racism?

Or do you guys think that?s another figment of imagination.

How did Obuma become president? How did Oprah Winfrey become a billionaire? How are we paying all these entertainers and athletes millions of dollars? everyone has an equal chance to achieve the American dream. Stop making shit up.

[LEG1T]

Originally Posted by LEG1T View Post
Does anyone here believe in systematic racism?

Or do you guys think that?s another figment of imagination.

Is that a joke, asking for a friend.

Lmfao... go a head, show me what law is set/made that is racist in todays government......

How did Obuma become president? How did Oprah Winfrey become a billionaire? How are we paying all these entertainers and athletes millions of dollars? everyone has an equal chance to achieve the American dream. Stop making shit up.

You guys proved my point perfectly, that was all I needed to know.

Quoting this, so any sensible person can see who trump supporters really are.

I just wanted it to come from directly from your own mouths.

Thank You.

[Corbic]

You guys proved my point perfectly, that was all I needed to know.



Quoting this, so any sensible person can see who trump supporters really are.



I just wanted it to come from directly from your own mouths.



Thank You.Proved what point.

You'd have to be a Troll not to realize we have extensive systemic racism against white people and Asians in this country.

Anyone able to post on a web forum had the mental capacity to realize that.

Here's the reality.

We are all equal under the law, on paper and practice. You can't not provide any proof otherwise.

The problem is we are not all equal and you want equal outcome, not equal opportunity.

If you you did a big one time wealth redistribution and gave everyone $2M to start over.... Within 5 years you'd quickly see similar faces out competing the rest and in 10 years we'd have a wealth distribution curve comparable to what we have now.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200817/9afa9214506563d2799ee25ec435c7d7.jpg

So stop with the race baiting and crying victim. Your only a victim to your own loser mentality.

[zombiewolf513]

Well if you need any more proof of what ive been saying:
Man protecting transgender and other women from assault by "peaceful protestors" gets accosted, chased, humiliated, dehuminized, then beat to near death. If you spew the rhetoric that comes from these places, this is the world youre asking for....
https://youtu.be/1j7Voo-jEyU
Or is this just russian propaganda too?

[KA24DESOneThree]

Corbic, you just don't get it.

Seriously, you don't.

In order for you to get it, you have to have compassion. You have to look at the problem holistically- that poverty causes hunger, hunger causes learning disabilities and behavior problems, and learning disabilities and behavior problems perpetuate poverty.

Also, what the flying fuck are you talking about that we're equal under the law "in practice?" That's PRECISELY why people are protesting- because we fucking aren't.

I'll paste what I said before:
"Crimes against black people are underreported because POC and marginalized groups don't trust the police, and because the police have zero impetus to actually report.

https://apnews.com/8247a1d2f76b4baea2a121186dedf768

Black people are more likely to be convicted than whites. Even after conviction, black people are more likely to be incarcerated than whites.

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers....act_id=1800840

https://www.hrw.org/report/2009/03/0...-states#_ftn21

https://www.aclu.org/report/report-w...lack-and-white "

We aren't equal, and that's a fucking problem.

[zombiewolf513]

Are you saying that black people dont commit crimes? but still have crimes committed on them by black people and dont say anything? And still somehow are overrepresented in the criminal justice system? And this has nothing to do with rampant crime in black communities? Are you saying that they arent impoverished to the point of having to resort to crime to survive? I dont get your point. I really dont. Youre saying things that sound good, but are actually damning. Is that what youre trying to do? Race bait?

[spooled240]

Does anyone here believe in systematic racism?

Or do you guys think that?s another figment of imagination.

Systematic racism DOES exist

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2020/08/13/yale-discrimination-doj-race-admissions/3369670001/

[S14rebuild]

You guys proved my point perfectly, that was all I needed to know.

Quoting this, so any sensible person can see who trump supporters really are.

I just wanted it to come from directly from your own mouths.

Thank You.

100000% TRUMP supporter. Never denied it or hid it. Round of applause for stating the obvious.....

Now wheres this racist laws at, that ur talking about?

[S14rebuild]

Systematic racism DOES exist

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/education/2020/08/13/yale-discrimination-doj-race-admissions/3369670001/


You do know BLM wants fully segregated schools?

[Corbic]

You do know BLM wants fully segregated schools?Which is God damn ironic.


Do it. FUBU to the max. Then watch the other schools out perform and listen to BLM cry racism.

They practically already have this, again going back to the DNC controlled shit holes.

Chicago, Baltimore, Atlanta, Detroit, Benton Harbor, etc. Black mayor's, councilmen, DA, AG, School Boards, Teachers... Majority black police force, school and communities...

[Corbic]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200817/4dfaadf76b976c396879508d401c1d5b.jpg

[KA24DESOneThree]

You do know BLM wants fully segregated schools?

Prove it.

Share your source.

Also, Corbic, that meme lacks a basic understanding of both communism and comics, which makes it a hell of a lot less funny. It is an absolute rib-buster to the ignorant, though.

[Corbic]

Prove it.

Share your source.

Also, Corbic, that meme lacks a basic understanding of both communism and comics, which makes it a hell of a lot less funny. It is an absolute rib-buster to the ignorant, though.Oh do explain Mr. Marx.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200818/e67db8f1887587c18fd31c1c5dd3d6fd.jpg

[S14rebuild]

Prove it.

Share your source.

Also, Corbic, that meme lacks a basic understanding of both communism and comics, which makes it a hell of a lot less funny. It is an absolute rib-buster to the ignorant, though.


https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

[KA24DESOneThree]

Ctrl + F:
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A Google search of '"segregation" site:blacklivesmatter.com' returns three hits, none of which are advocating segregation.

"Hello, Vlad? You're right, Americans really are susceptible to being torn apart through memes and propaganda. It looks like we're winning the war to divide the people! Hail Hydra!"

Corbic, communism involves common/communal ownership of the means of production, the elimination of social classes, money, and the state. If they're communist, why do you complain about welfare? Welfare in this context doesn't exist in a communist society. Also, would they be Marxist, Leninist, Stalinist, Trotskyist, Maoist, anarcho-communist, or Christian-communist?

Wakanda "is" a utopia- a constitutional monarchy with universal healthcare. It is not communist, so communists wouldn't regard it as utopia- instead, it's included because it's an African nation. Weird that Atlantis or Valhalla or something wasn't used, I wonder why that is.

[S14rebuild]

Man, reading comprehensive is way down now adays....

Guess it wouldnt matter to you that the true leaders of bml are Marxist.....

[zombiewolf513]

Good God that kids brain must be as smooth as an egg, and has just as many cells

[KA24DESOneThree]

Man, reading comprehensive is way down now adays....

Guess it wouldnt matter to you that the true leaders of bml are Marxist.....

What did I fail to comprehend?

I'll take "Red Herring" for $500, Alex.

[Corbic]

Man, reading comprehensive is way down now adays....

Guess it wouldnt matter to you that the true leaders of bml are Marxist.....Exactly.

Not a half dozen posts earlier I highlighted the importance of identifying Propaganda, he laughs but then is completely unable to contextualize what BLM is saying on their very own website.


Fuuuuuuuckkkkkkkk

[Corbic]

Ctrl + F:
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A Google search of '"segregation" site:blacklivesmatter.com' returns three hits, none of which are advocating segregation.

Reading comprehension bruh.

That basically means, understanding what is being said even if not using absolutely specific robotic language.

What exactly do you think they mean when they say they are fighting institutes of racial injustice, creating safe spaces and rejecting western cultural values...



Corbic, communism involves common/communal ownership of the means of production, the elimination of social classes, money, and the state. If they're communist, why do you complain about welfare? Welfare in this context doesn't exist in a communist society. Also, would they be Marxist, Leninist, Stalinist, Trotskyist, Maoist, anarcho-communist, or Christian-communist?

Communism = violation of one's human right to their labor and property.

Period. Not a hard concept to grasp. It's only killed 200 million people globally. But hey, let's shriek about a confederate flag!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200818/13d771114432bae45e400977261ade86.jpg


Wakanda "is" a utopia- a constitutional monarchy with universal healthcare.

Soooo an ultra nationalist, pro-isolationist, Anti-immigration, authoritarian monarchy ruled by a military Junta who selects its exclusively male leaders by martial combat.... Is utopia?


It is not communist, so communists wouldn't regard it as utopia- instead, it's included because it's an African nation.

Wakanda has a Communist economy in that al means of production, research, development and land are controlled by the dictatorship and are properties of the state.

Weird that Atlantis or Valhalla or something wasn't used, I wonder why that is.

Because those aren't comic book utopias being held up by soy suckers as some hypocritical model for the black communism movement?

[S14rebuild]

I cant put that much effort, tryn to explain basic things to the thick skulls. Thanks corbic

[Corbic]

I cant put that much effort, tryn to explain basic things to the thick skulls. Thanks corbicYeah, I about done with mush head.

We're not even talking about the election at this point as him and his comrades keep dragging us down these rat holes of identity politics.

I love how Joe is so scared of the Commie Cough he won't be traveling on his private plane/bus for his acceptance speech at the DNC Convention...

Like... Um what.

Also, get your bingo cards.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200818/70bd962a5e5fd90d029df67585c34315.jpg