The 2020 Presidential Race

[Corbic]

Lmao this is 2020....who the fuck is sailing boats across the ocean for an attack?

Yea im sure its the oceans stopn people from attacking usa.https://warontherocks.com/2018/01/chinas-three-warfares-perspective/

KA24 is shaking in his boots at the Ruskies and their half dozen broke tanks, collapsed economy and population of a 140million....

But sees no threat in the world's second largest economy that controls our entire supply chain, owns half our debt, has a billion people and literally owns half of our entertainment industry....


Reeeeeeeeeesssssia!!!

[deolio]

If you dont like the way your freedom is provided, youre also free to renounce your citizenship and leave

Or people could vote on it until their voice isn't heard
and then take to the streets in protest to show their displeasure
and then be arrested by unmarked federal agents in unmarked cars
and then resort to violence and rioting
and then be called the bad guys by the autocracy and their cohorts
and then be persecuted
and then lead a revolution
and then win
and then be considered heroes

Is that how you would like things to play out? Because it's kinda happened a fuckton of times in history and is guaranteed to happen again. American hegemony is at its end and Trump is the nail in the coffin.

[zombiewolf513]

Or people could vote on it until their voice isn't heard
and then take to the streets in protest to show their displeasure
and then resort to violence and rioting
and then be arrested by unmarked federal agents in unmarked cars
and then be called the bad guys by everyone else
and then be persecuted
and then lead a revolution
and then win
and then be considered heroes

Is that how you would like things to play out?

"and then be considered heroes"
HAHAHAHA too good. Too fucking good. Hahahaha thanks for that. You guys think life is a LARP or movie or something i swear, bc you have ZERO grasp on the reality of whats 10 miles outside your democratic shitholes. itll be something more like this:

Or people could vote on it until their voice isn't heard
and then take to the streets in protest to show their displeasure

and then resort to violence and rioting

and then be arrested by unmarked federal agents in unmarked cars

and then be called the bad guys by literally everyone that isnt you
and then be persecuted
and then lead an insurrection
and then get their shit pushed in by an army of Kyle Rittenhouses with the full blessings of local governments, police and normies theyre killing
and then be considered a stain on American history

[deolio]

itll be something more like this:

So you're in support autocratic rule then?

[zombiewolf513]

and then resort to violence and rioting

So you're in support lynch mob rule then?

Youre obviously delusional if you think this country has anything that at all resembles an autocracy.

>in b4 TWUMP SUPPORTEWS ARE NAHTZIS AND TWUMP IS LITEWALLY HITWER

You think trump is some kind of ideological leader, and fail to realize hes a wrench in the system courtesy real Americans who want fake Americans like you exposed. Mission accomplished. Better luck next-next election.

You also fail to realize that if this country was as much of a nazi, racist autocracy as you make it out to be, yall wouldnt be around to complain.

[zombiewolf513]

i take that back, if anywhere is autocratic, its democrat shitholes

[deolio]

So you're in support lynch mob rule then?

Violence ≠ death

Jeez someone's mind sure is on killing :hey:

Youre obviously delusional if you think this country has anything that at all resembles an autocracy.

HMMM lets go down the checklist
-Illegally spying on it's citizens? Check
-Intimidating media? Check
-Politicizing civil services? Check
-Stacking the Supreme Court? Check
-Dehumanizing opposition? Check
-Voter surpression? Check

You may want to get your eyes checked, but I guess the optometrist may have a tough time getting a reading with your head buried up your ass.

You think trump is some kind of ideological leader, and fail to realize hes a wrench in the system courtesy real Americans who want fake Americans like you exposed. Mission accomplished. Better luck next-next election.

Why would so-called "Real Americans" throw a wrench in their own system? You surely HAVE to see how backwards that is, right?

You also fail to realize that if this country was as much of a nazi, racist autocracy as you make it out to be, yall wouldnt be around to complain.

Obviously we aren't quite at that point yet, but with psychopaths like you around, it is fast approaching.

What does "y'all" refer to exactly?

[zombiewolf513]

Yeah, violence = peace amirite

Youre not wrong though, my mind is either on my family, my 240, or on training to kill and designing weapons of war. In fact, i dream of killing and being killed all night every night. I literally do. Merica. Probably dont want to try your luck with your little 'revolution'

You dont know what an autocracy is

I already told you why dipshit

Yall refers to you and those that think like you. Yall would be genocided already if we were nazis, now wouldnt you?

[deolio]

Yeah, violence = peace amirite
Youre not wrong though, my mind is either on my family, my 240, or on training to kill and designing weapons of war. Merica. Probably dont want to try your luck with your little 'revolution'
You dont know what an autocracy is
I already told you why dipshit
Yall refers to you and those that think like you. Yall would be genocided already if we were nazis, now would you?

Do I need to mail you a dictionary?

So you're saying you sabotaged the government in order to find people who disagree with the sabotage? What kind of fucktard came up with that plan? Must have been a genius :bowrofl:

People who have free though and foresight? Sure sounds American to me!

[zombiewolf513]

go ahead and define autocracy, and explain how any of those things are being done by an autocrat. And while youre at it, prove theyre an autocrat and not a branch with checks and balances.

More like sabotaging the saboteurs. Its genius while also hilarious to watch. Its working. Youre proof.

Youre always deflecting. Answer the question coward.
If the country was all racist nazis, would everyone else not already be genocided?

[deolio]

Hard pass.

yOu WoN't ReSpOnD bEcAuSe YoU cAn'T

Google is as far from your finger tips as it is from mine.

https://i.imgur.com/8laROPW.jpg



Everyone is too busy pushing their own agenda to look up and realize what they're doing is wrong. That goes for Democrats and Republicans. The two party system is broken. Treating everything as black and white is flawed. As far as I'm concerned, a vote either way is the wrong vote.

[zombiewolf513]

whatever pussy

yOu WoN't ReSpOnD bEcAuSe YoU cAn'T

Im glad we both recognize why you cant actually respond. At least i have the balls to say what i think instead of feigning victimhood and morality to justify violence like some kind of animal

[deolio]

whatever pussy

Im glad we both recognize why you cant actually respond. At least i have the balls to say what i think instead of feigning victimhood and morality to justify violence like some kind of animal

Bitch this ain?t school. Told you before I?m just here to play with your fragile sensibilities and since I can do that without writing a 69 page MLA format paper, I will. Not like you?d learn anything from it even if I did. You?d probably just pull one sentence out of context from it and declare me a traitor anyway. This shit gets boring. Let?s try again tomorrow shall we?

[zombiewolf513]

Okay, but youre still pussy. Time for your evening jog.

[deolio]

Okay, but youre still pussy. Time for your evening jog.

You are what you eat, ya boot.

[zombiewolf513]

Boot lol. If you only knew, youd have your foot so far in your mouth youd be shitting your shoe laces pussy boy.

[Future240]

Now now children there is no need for name calling.

[deolio]

Boot lol. If you only knew, youd have your foot so far in your mouth youd be shitting your shoe laces pussy boy.

Lol 7/10 imagery 0/10 originality since you just reused my analogy.

Now now children there is no need for name calling.

Sorry teach! We?re just playing is all

[zombiewolf513]

Oh okay, i was assuming you knew what a boot was.

[Future240]

Sorry teach! We?re just playing is all

Alright then, back you your assignments of trying to convince each other the opposite party is literally hitler/communist/the devil/epstein
Back to actually election coverage

5/38 predicts biden to win.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2020-election-forecast/


BBC has Biden up as well
https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2020-53657174


Despite those I still think Trump will remain potus.

The left does not vote enough and the base is split between the left left and the moderate left.

Biden's continual gaffs with black people are not helping either.

Meanwhile the repubs are down with the set and gone vote.

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/PZvCPrsWqzI

[Future240]

https://youtu.be/PZvCPrsWqzI


Cringe fest. Shades, the long hair and the gloves? LOL

Does he look like that in all his vids?

[KA24DESOneThree]

I get that you want to try and deflect with wars for our 'greatest ally', but you still havent addressed how foreign forces and missiles are kept from hitting the US.

You think it's because we have a military presence on every continent?

You think it's because we bomb the shit out of people who aren't like us?

I'd like to see how you prove that our global hegemony has anything to do with keeping us safe. I'd argue the exact opposite- the end result of decades of foreign meddling was achieved on September 11, 2001. The end result of that attack was... decades of foreign meddling. Oh my god you better not piss off the US or we'll make sure your people get dysentery- if it was good enough for Native Americans in the 1800s, it's good enough for Syrians in the 2000s!

Do I believe we need a military? Yes, even the most staunch libertarian understands that defense is a function of government.

And yeah Corbic, I know China's a massive threat. They're a threat to our housing market, they're a threat to our financial markets, they're a threat to freedom literally throughout the US and despite that, our government has been on its knees and cupping the balls since it was apparent China could make some rich motherfuckers richer.

The CDC enacted a moratorium on evictions. We could be looking at millions of people (some estimates place those millions at more than 10% of the population btw) who will be months behind on their rent by mid-January.

What's going to happen to them? What's Trump's plan? What's Biden's plan? How the fuck do we have 40 million people who don't make enough money to move or to pay their rent? Do conservatives have 80 million bootstraps to lend out?

[Corbic]

The CDC enacted a moratorium on evictions. We could be looking at millions of people (some estimates place those millions at more than 10% of the population btw) who will be months behind on their rent by mid-January.




Why aren't you asking those Governors that shut down the local businesses and economy?

[zombiewolf513]

The left does not vote enough and the base is split between the left left and the moderate left.


Right, thats their biggest hurdle. I think were going to see a record low turnout for dem voters this year, too. A lot of traditionally dem voters I talk to in my area are either saying "I cant vote for either of these choices" or "dems are acting nuts im voting for trump"

[Corbic]

Don't worry, they'll make up for it with magic ballot boxes.

[deolio]

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/02/908347989/former-dhs-official-white-house-failed-to-take-far-right-extremism-seriously?fbclid=IwAR2bjA5Lcv4qeODmnnSR2G6dY37p6-CQxBPLq9Dxi5a6Xd7vWUloN0m6Vuo

Some interesting excerpts:

"He uses rhetoric to scare people. This is a known psychological tactic that if you get people to fear, they tend to follow you to the solution of 'How are we going to save ourselves?' And his answer is, 'It's me. If you vote for me, I will save you,' " she says. "Well, for some people, the way that they think that they need to protect themselves, it's more than just a vote for a president. It's 'let me go kill people.' "

“She says that the numbers don't bear out the idea that left-wing violence is as much of a problem as right-wing violence, and arrests during the summer's protests demonstrate that.”

“She's also concerned that people who served as "guardrails" around the president have left the administration. Those "adults in the room," she says, took the heat from the White House in order to allow people like her to keep carrying out their work.”

"It's his style. His style is chaos itself. And when you have chaos at the top of the federal government, that creates chaos throughout every other level of government. That means we cannot perform our security functions well," she says. "The first and primary job of a president, the first and primary job of the federal government, is to protect us."

[Corbic]

https://www.npr.org/2020/09/02/908347989/former-dhs-official-white-house-failed-to-take-far-right-extremism-seriously?fbclid=IwAR2bjA5Lcv4qeODmnnSR2G6dY37p6-CQxBPLq9Dxi5a6Xd7vWUloN0m6Vuo

Some interesting excerpts:

"He uses rhetoric to scare people. This is a known psychological tactic that if you get people to fear, they tend to follow you to the solution of 'How are we going to save ourselves?' And his answer is, 'It's me. If you vote for me, I will save you,' " she says. "Well, for some people, the way that they think that they need to protect themselves, it's more than just a vote for a president. It's 'let me go kill people.' "

?She says that the numbers don't bear out the idea that left-wing violence is as much of a problem as right-wing violence, and arrests during the summer's protests demonstrate that.?

?She's also concerned that people who served as "guardrails" around the president have left the administration. Those "adults in the room," she says, took the heat from the White House in order to allow people like her to keep carrying out their work.?

"It's his style. His style is chaos itself. And when you have chaos at the top of the federal government, that creates chaos throughout every other level of government. That means we cannot perform our security functions well," she says. "The first and primary job of a president, the first and primary job of the federal government, is to protect us."Trump wasn't even elected yet and ya'll burning shit down under Obama.

Trump had been president one day and you had Madonna shrieking to burn the Whitehouse down with idiots wearing pussy hats listing to some Islamist...

Trump didn't cause any of this, he's just your favorite excuse and if he's gone, you think all this goes away? Ha!

[deolio]

If he's gone, you think all this goes away? Ha!

No, but I think it'd prevent a further escalation of violence.

[S14rebuild]

^just like trump going to kenosha, was to spark more outrage and violence, but we see the complete opposite....

[feito]

"they will be more forceful, more confrontational and more prepared to push back on this administration"- Maxine waters, 2018

"it will get worse if trump wins"-Michael Obama, 2019

But EsCaLaTiOn of ViOlEnCe iS tRuMp's FauLt

And do people actually still believe polls? Jesus, where do they gather their info from anyway? Do people actually answer those polls in youtube? Does anybody actually keep listening to call after realizing it's a machine? lol, polls. "hIlLaRy iN a LaNdSlIdE"-leftists before breaking into tears-2016

[Corbic]

No, but I think it'd prevent a further escalation of violence.So you are actually admitting the left is using violence and the threat of insurrection to oust a president and terrorise the American people into giving them what they want....


If Trump's tweets hurt people's feeling so much... Fucking don't follow him then.

[deolio]

So you are actually admitting the left is using violence and the threat of insurrection to oust a president and terrorise the American people into giving them what they want....

Sure dude, whatever. As I?ve said before, I?m not a leftist. Nothing I say represents the thoughts of the left.

What I actually meant, was violence from right wing extremists. You know, the people that article said had actually been committing the most violence and terrorism. No doubt Leftist extremists exist, but according to the DHS lady, they aren?t a threat because I assume, as you guys say, they are pussies.

https://i.imgur.com/cru0Ebg.jpg

If Trump's tweets hurt people's feeling so much... Fucking don't follow him then.

Ah yes, the classic Republican tactic of living in willful ignorance when they see/hear something they don?t like/agree with.

[zombiewolf513]

Being a pussy and killig someone arent mutually exclusive. What a stupid fucking meme.

https://mobile.twitter.com/markdice/status/1300488361983971329

[Corbic]

Sure dude, whatever. As I?ve said before, I?m not a leftist. Nothing I say represents the thoughts of the left.




What I actually meant, was violence from right wing extremists. You know, the people that article said had actually been committing the most violence and terrorism. No doubt Leftist extremists exist, but according to the DHS lady, they aren?t a threat because I assume, as you guys say, they are pussies.

https://i.imgur.com/cru0Ebg.jpg


Oh, some twat said so, so it must be true!

The fact that the left is comprised of a bunch of powerless, jobless, raging snowflake pussies is what makes them dangerous. They all throw temper tantrums, shriek at the sky and wipe. Each other up into mobs.



Ah yes, the classic Republican tactic of living in willful ignorance when they see/hear something they don?t like/agree with.

Pretty sure we're the ones bitching about Social Media censorship and banning users. Ya'll be the ones shrieking "hate speech" and "terms of use violation!!"

I'm just making a suggesting to improve your life. You yourself have mentioned the only reason you don't like Trump is in his appearance and dialect.

#triggered

[Corbic]

Being a pussy and killig someone arent mutually exclusive. What a stupid fucking meme.

https://mobile.twitter.com/markdice/status/1300488361983971329Exactly, theses POS wouldn't saw Boo if it was one of them and 10-15 on the other side.

They get in a big mob, they load up on twitter and they go around harassing and attacking people. They where masks to hide their identities and dress the same to blend in with the mob.

None of them ever have the balls to breakaway from the narrative or question what they are doing.

There is a reason the NPC meme exists.

[Future240]

Its funny all this talk of alleged democrat voter fraud then the POTUS tells people to vote twice to "test" the sytem.

https://www.commondreams.org/news/2020/09/03/barr-repeatedly-claims-he-doesnt-know-whether-its-illegal-vote-twice-following-trump?cd-origin=rss

[S14rebuild]

To either party, the system should work, so it shouldnt matter.

Do u really think it takes the president to tell u try and vote 2wice, peoe would do it?

[deolio]

Oh, some twat said so, so it must be true!

The fact that the left is comprised of a bunch of powerless, jobless, raging snowflake pussies is what makes them dangerous. They all throw temper tantrums, shriek at the sky and wipe. Each other up into mobs.

So you're scared of a bunch of powerless, jobless, raging snowflake pussies? Awfully ironic...

Pretty sure we're the ones bitching about Social Media censorship and banning users. Ya'll be the ones shrieking "hate speech" and "terms of use violation!!"

It ain't me babe

But there is a law known as Incitement of Imminent Lawless Action, which you could argue Trump has violated several times...

I'm just making a suggesting to improve your life.

What would improve my life? Choosing between two terrible parties run by corrupt people who are only in politics for personal gain?

You yourself have mentioned the only reason you don't like Trump is in his appearance and dialect.

#triggered

Where? But, ok, I guess. He's a big, powerful, mentally unstable buffoon who sees what he wants and takes it by whatever means necessary. That dude couldn't give two shits about what's best for America. He just wants to keep pouring taxpayer money into his own pocket. And that should be bothersome for all Americans :duh:

[Corbic]

So you're scared of a bunch of powerless, jobless, raging snowflake pussies? Awfully ironic...


What is ironic? That is why they riot. That is why they think nothing about slashing your tires, blocking a highway or throwing a brick at you.

Do you think people who have the world by the balls, that have something to loose, they are the ones that strap suicide vests on?

[deolio]

What is ironic? That is why they riot. That is why they think nothing about slashing your tires, blocking a highway or throwing a brick at you.

The irony is all the gun-toting, flag-waving, MAGA hat-wearing good ol' boys who are actually committing the most politically-motivated crimes.

Do you think people who have the world by the balls, that have something to loose, they are the ones that strap suicide vests on?

Lol they should just change the Republican party slogan to "blame the poor"

[zombiewolf513]

Wow thats a unique fantasy. The left are a bunch of masochists.

[KA24DESOneThree]

I would be shocked if there were more than 10k rioters across the entire country. There are millions of protesters, though.

Everybody would be shocked if anyone can point out a structured (leadership, funding, training) antifa cell anywhere in the country.

I would never protest without a mask and with identifiable clothing for two reasons: one, the right loves to doxx people (so does the left, but the people I'd be protesting with would likely lean left), two, the police love to put people in databases. I do have something to hide: me. No one needs to know my politics but me (and you guys. and anyone who connects the dots between my cars and me.). I don't need to be in a livestream that one of my clients' kids is watching. I don't need to be in a clip that gets picked up by the AP.

The government doesn't have the right to know who you are or where you are. You have the right to be anonymous, not because it's shady and you're up to no good, but because your privacy is important.

It's funny that NPC became a meme- it's supposed to be this nameless, faceless person who exists on rails. But characters like Caesar and Joshua (and Cass and...) exist as NPCs. Joker from Mass Effect, Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2, Alyx in Half-Life 2, etc. exist. Characters with depth, whose emotions matter, and whose stories are interesting.

It's also funny that NPC started being used by people in echo chambers. People with canned answers because they didn't know anything outside what they wanted to know. People who didn't use critical thinking. People who lacked depth and emotion and interesting stories. People who fit the exact criteria of the term they were using to describe their enemies.

[zombiewolf513]

https://i.ibb.co/374j3dQ/kkka24.png

yeah yeah, we've heard that one before Democrat.




Everybody would be shocked if anyone can point out a structured (leadership, funding, training) antifa cell anywhere in the country.

https://i.ibb.co/TgjpxF2/RNR.png

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Redneck_Revolt

They have crews all over the country, I've met them before several times, they show up to protests in armed formations. They have an entire structure, organization, and group training regiment (albeit a pathetic one). Theyre also arguably responsible for what happened in Charlottesville.







https://i.ibb.co/6JwL5vG/KA24-DESOne-Three.png

It's funny that NPC became a meme- it's supposed to be this nameless, faceless person who exists on rails. But characters like Caesar and Joshua (and Cass and...) exist as NPCs. Joker from Mass Effect, Handsome Jack from Borderlands 2, Alyx in Half-Life 2, etc. exist. Characters with depth, whose emotions matter, and whose stories are interesting.

It's also funny that NPC started being used by people in echo chambers. People with canned answers because they didn't know anything outside what they wanted to know. People who didn't use critical thinking. People who lacked depth and emotion and interesting stories. People who fit the exact criteria of the term they were using to describe their enemies.

[Future240]

https://apnews.com/dd93ecd3cafc5df88a8f9f4a61693b07

Important to note the POTUS campaigned on lower the trade deficit.

To either party, the system should work, so it shouldnt matter.

Do u really think it takes the president to tell u try and vote 2wice, peoe would do it?

It should matter because voting twice is ACTUALLY illegal.

Yes. There are dumbasses who being told by potus to vote twice will.

[SupaDoopa]

So you're scared of a bunch of powerless, jobless, raging snowflake pussies? Awfully ironic...



It ain't me babe

But there is a law known as Incitement of Imminent Lawless Action, which you could argue Trump has violated several times...



What would improve my life? Choosing between two terrible parties run by corrupt people who are only in politics for personal gain?



Where? But, ok, I guess. He's a big, powerful, mentally unstable buffoon who sees what he wants and takes it by whatever means necessary. That dude couldn't give two shits about what's best for America. He just wants to keep pouring taxpayer money into his own pocket. And that should be bothersome for all Americans :duh:

You realize 'the people' elected him, correct? The majority. What would you prefer? Clinton? She's arguable even more fucked up than Vermin Supreme. It blows my mind the uneducated people who say he's a moron. You don't make that much money on sheer luck. Sure, you piss a fuck ton of people off on the way up but that's business. America is a business. Politics is a business. If you don't like it, find an island somewhere and live there so your fragile feels don't get hurt.

[zombiewolf513]

Youre taking what he said completely out of context. Actually voting twice involves a matter of fraud, like registering and voting in 2 states or harvesting a ballot. Submitting a mail in vote, and then attempting to vote in person is not voting twice, bc only one vote from each voter can be accepted. Its crazy anyone needs to explain that.

[KA24DESOneThree]

You realize 'the people' elected him, correct? The majority. What would you prefer? Clinton? She's arguable even more fucked up than Vermin Supreme. It blows my mind the uneducated people who say he's a moron. You don't make that much money on sheer luck. Sure, you piss a fuck ton of people off on the way up but that's business. America is a business. Politics is a business. If you don't like it, find an island somewhere and live there so your fragile feels don't get hurt.

Wrong, not a majority. 62,984,828 people voted for Trump, 65,853,514 voted for Hillary. Trump lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote.

The educated people say he's a moron. Other wealthy people say he's a moron.

Think of people who started with literally nothing, rather than daddy's millions. When shit got real for them, their father couldn't just walk in with literal stacks of cash. Daymond John, Mark Cuban- both have been orders of magnitude more successful than Trump. Both are also better-spoken, with voluminous vocabularies (and both hire people to check their public speech).

Any number of people could've leveraged Trump's wealth; he should be a multi-multi-billionaire but instead he's a giant question mark.

[S14rebuild]

Youre taking what he said completely out of context. Actually voting twice involves a matter of fraud, like registering and voting in 2 states or harvesting a ballot. Submitting a mail in vote, and then attempting to vote in person is not voting twice, bc only one vote from each voter can be accepted. Its crazy anyone needs to explain that.



Around of applause!!! But...liberals and trump haters dont what to except what he ACUALLY SAID! cant fix stupid

[S14rebuild]

Wrong, not a majority. 62,984,828 people voted for Trump, 65,853,514 voted for Hillary. Trump lost the popular vote but won the electoral vote.

The educated people say he's a moron. Other wealthy people say he's a moron.

Think of people who started with literally nothing, rather than daddy's millions. When shit got real for them, their father couldn't just walk in with literal stacks of cash. Daymond John, Mark Cuban- both have been orders of magnitude more successful than Trump. Both are also better-spoken, with voluminous vocabularies (and both hire people to check their public speech).

Any number of people could've leveraged Trump's wealth; he should be a multi-multi-billionaire but instead he's a giant question mark.

I dont give a fuck about the popular vote, neither does TRUMP.

you sound like a sore loser...... want a tissue? Or a tampon? Probly both

[SimpleS14]

Submitting a mail in vote, and then attempting to vote in person is not voting twice, bc only one vote from each voter can be accepted. Its crazy anyone needs to explain that.

What should be emphasized is that this action, depending on state law, is illegal.

For example in North Carolina it's considered a state felony:
(7) For any person with intent to commit a fraud to register or vote at more than one precinct or more than one time, or to induce another to do so, in the same primary or election, or to vote illegally at any primary or election.
Source: N.C.G.S. ? 163-275 - https://www.ncleg.gov/EnactedLegislation/Statutes/HTML/BySection/Chapter_163/GS_163-275.html , https://twitter.com/NCSBE/status/1301527393799213056


IMO, I doubt a significant number of people are going to attempt this. If you are willing to go vote in person, there's really no reason to attempt mail-in/absentee voting.

[zombiewolf513]

You basically just proved my point. What you quoted is voter fraud by registering in multiple districts, not simultanously mailing and in person voting by the same voter in the same district

The educated people say he's a moron.

Im educated and I say hes a genius.

https://i.imgflip.com/4dur9g.jpg


e should be a multi-multi-billionaire but instead he's a giant question mark.

Oh yeah? What happened to "privacy is important"?

Still waiting for you to admit you were wrong about antifa orgs. Youll just cinveniently ignore it and cherry-pick whatever you can argue despite how trivial or non-sequitur.

[SimpleS14]

You basically just proved my point. What you quoted is voter fraud by registering in multiple districts, not simultanously mailing and in person voting by the same voter in the same district

It's the "or more than one time" part of the sentence that relates to voting both by mail and in-person simultaneously in the same election.

[zombiewolf513]

Noooo... thats a catch all for other situations in which voters attempt to fraudulently vote. Not attempt to cast their one ballot in multiple forms. The system nullifies either the mail in or in person for every single voter, its not a gradeschool fucking tally.

[midnight zenki]

They have crews all over the country, I've met them before several times, they show up to protests in armed formations. They have an entire structure, organization, and group training regiment (albeit a pathetic one). Theyre also arguably responsible for what happened in Charlottesville.


What argument? It's pretty clear R.A.M and Attomwaffen (you know the actual Neo-Nazi's) were the ones drop kicking and smashing peoples faces in considering that they all flocked from 35 states to stir the shit. They went their looking for the fight they started. So no there is no "argument" who caused Charlottesville. The RR may have shown up and fought but if the douchebag Nazi's didnt't feel emboldened enought to march openly and beat people in public with no police interdiction except for the dude who murdered Heather Hyer, there wouldn't have been an issue.

https://youtu.be/jPLvWO_SOgM

[KA24DESOneThree]

Still waiting for you to admit you were wrong about antifa orgs. Youll just cinveniently ignore it and cherry-pick whatever you can argue despite how trivial or non-sequitur.

I was ignoring that post in its entirety and forgot that there was a semblance of fact anywhere in it, my apologies.

Redneck Revolt is an organized anti-fascist, anti-racist organization. It could fall under the "antifa" umbrella, so I humbly submit.

I also don't think Trump is an evil genius. I think he's a bumbling fool of a sociopath, surrounded by people who realize that latching onto a rich halfwit makes it that much easier to do a mediocre job and still get paid.

[zombiewolf513]

What argument? ...

The RR may have shown up and fought...


Holy shit your willful ignorance to your dogma is INSANE.

heres your argument, "the kid realized he was in the wrong place among literal neo-nazis, and decided to leave. He parked too close to the event. He turned down the ally, not realizing it was closed because of protestors. He attempted to reverse, but was stopped by RR who threatened to shoot him. He then barreled through the crowd in panic and fear (like weve seen happen time and time again more recently)."

RR members have openly admitted to this being the case multiple times at public events on video as guest speakers laying out the entire account just as i did.

[zombiewolf513]

I was ignoring that post in its entirety and forgot that there was a semblance of fact anywhere in it, my apologies.

Redneck Revolt is an organized anti-fascist, anti-racist organization. It could fall under the "antifa" umbrella, so I humbly submit.


You are the most dishonest mf'r ive ever talked to. You literally just said "i ignored you bc no facts" immediately followed by "you were right about that fact in the same post"

Unbelievable.

[midnight zenki]

Holy shit my willful ignorance and inability to read is INSANE.

Thanks for latching on to one incident simpleton, again if your shit stain friends didn't show up in full Nazi regalia in the first place would it have happened? Do you deny that Atomwaffen was present or that R.A.M was present and instigating?

James Fields Jr. was at least a neo-nazi sympathizer and wasn't just some "kid who was in the wrong place at the wrong time". You're pretty good at white-washing facts;)

[zombiewolf513]

I'm a retard

Gain some reading comprehension dipshit.

[midnight zenki]

Gain some reading comprehension dipshit.

But, but, but you're dodging my questions...AnsWeR dA qUeStioN cuck

[zombiewolf513]

>asks question
>has question answered in simple english
>repeats question
>wonders why noone likes him

yeah ok buddy

[midnight zenki]

yeah ok buddy

I'm disappointed, there's no witty meme or name calling. You let me down junior, you tuckering out on us?

You sir are no Corbic.

[zombiewolf513]

>doesnt recognize memes when he sees them
>thinks hes smart

yeah okay buddy. No offense to Corbic, but my memes are actually pretty legendary. I don't want to say which ones, but most everyone is familiar with at least two.

reeling this one back in:
https://twitter.com/Evenings_Seq/status/1301661113600204800

Also, why is the phenotype so similar? Which phenotype is this??
https://i.ibb.co/p1W2pWb/1599246455776.png

[KA24DESOneThree]

You are the most dishonest mf'r ive ever talked to. You literally just said "i ignored you bc no facts" immediately followed by "you were right about that fact in the same post"

Unbelievable.

See, there is where your reading comprehension has failed you. I specifically said, "I was ignoring that post in its entirety and forgot that there was a semblance of fact anywhere in it, my apologies."

Your arguments are often in bad faith, using intentionally incendiary memes, in an attempt to bait those of us who you consider your enemies into ad hominems so that you gain something that, in a twisted way, resembles a moral high ground. Your arguments/memes are so often illogical that I skimmed over actual fact coupled in between you trying to equate a desire for privacy to being a member of the KKK, and some inane drawing that you inserted into a quote of mine.

[zombiewolf513]

I could argue your points better than you can.

[zombiewolf513]

Redneck Revolt is an organized anti-fascist, anti-racist organization. It could fall under the "antifa" umbrella, so I humbly submit.

Guess what... so are the Boogaloo Boys.

https://i.ibb.co/Nxc4dT4/1599257689567.jpg

[feito]

so, anybody wanna place their bets on the excuse why biden wont debate? I read somewhere that he'll be diagnosed with covid right before :eek:

[S14rebuild]

If biden does debate, its a 100% republican win...specially if TRUMPcalls him out on it. Would show how soft he is, and weak the democratic party is.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Isn't the debate a bit... stupid at this point?

Politics is now trench warfare- there have been substantial increases in firepower but none to mobility.

[feito]

ok, we got onethree for $100 on "the debate is stupid, there's no need for it" lol

[S14rebuild]

Isn't the debate a bit... stupid at this point?

Politics is now trench warfare- there have been substantial increases in firepower but none to mobility.


Doesn't fukn matter, the debate is part of running for president.

[dbeiler]

Biden recently did an interview from his nursing home with......... Cardi B? Why?

How did Cardi B ever become a "thing"? I attempted to listen to her "music" on YouTube. It's straight trash. The beat, the lyrics, her voice; it's all just complete garbage. Nobody with functioning ear drums would consider it music.

She spends the entirety of the interview engaging in profound and insightful political conversation. Haha, just kidding! She waves her clawed chicken feet hands in the air. Demanding FREE college, FREE healthcare.

Biden, why did you partake in this stupidity? I'd rather you take up golfing. Please don't pander to this reprehensible portion of US society. It's pathetic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99Y6m3qz5m4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84deFGeHmfQ

[KA24DESOneThree]

Ugh.

"I'd like the number four at the nail salon. Yeah, the 'Peppermint Wolverine.'"

Looking forward to hearing two old white men go back and forth about who's going to better integrate the country. Should be a nail-biter.

[S14rebuild]

Ugh.

"I'd like the number four at the nail salon. Yeah, the 'Peppermint Wolverine.'"

Looking forward to hearing two old white men go back and forth about who's going to better integrate the country. Should be a nail-biter.

fukn bitch worse then a 90yr old Jewish woman..dam

[Corbic]

Isn't the debate a bit... stupid at this point?

Politics is now trench warfare- there have been substantial increases in firepower but none to mobility.So you've given up on that silent majority swing voter that is still weighing their options?

Could this be why?

https://mobile.twitter.com/odonnell_r/status/1302770525538840576

What's funny is I bet those where Biden voters they assaulted.

[KA24DESOneThree]

You mean the swing voters who are still waffling because they're both clueless and inept? Do we really want those people to decide the future of our country?

What are they waiting for? They have a lifetime of voting records from Biden, and two campaigns and a presidency from Trump. Do they think either is going to come up with something fucking new in the next two months?

[SimpleS14]

Isn't the debate a bit... stupid at this point?


I don't think so. IMO, it's another way to see how each candidate reacts to commentary from the other and address questions on the fly.

[deolio]

I'd just like to see Jo Jorgensen at a debate. Pretty sure she'd burry both of those bumbling doofuses.

[Corbic]

You mean the swing voters who are still waffling because they're both clueless and inept? Do we really want those people to decide the future of our country?

What are they waiting for? They have a lifetime of voting records from Biden, and two campaigns and a presidency from Trump. Do they think either is going to come up with something fucking new in the next two months?I think only home owners with a W2 should be allowed to vote, but what do I know...

[Bluejayde]

I'd just like to see Jo Jorgensen at a debate. Pretty sure she'd burry both of those bumbling doofuses.

This. The media and the status quo it supports won't allow a third party, because rather than dividing the country into two easily controlled camps, there might actually be a third, moderate option that would support -and be supported by- a middle class, rather than a small portion of rich elites versus a bunch of poor folks.

[Future240]

I think only home owners with a W2 should be allowed to vote, but what do I know...


Apparently not a lot as this would exclude millions of Americans living in apartments.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/798113/share-of-population-living-apartments-by-state-usa/


Restricting voting based on home ownership is THE most un-American thing I have read in this thread.


Not all people live in apartments because they cannot afford a house, some people prefer to.

[kingkilburn]

Gotta love when people knowingly or unknowingly wear their bigotry on their sleeve. Like, we see you. Maybe it's just a coincidence that certain groups are consistently denied employment and ownership... Eh, fuck em.

[K_style]

Apparently not a lot as this would exclude millions of Americans living in apartments.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/798113/share-of-population-living-apartments-by-state-usa/


Restricting voting based on home ownership is THE most un-American thing I have read in this thread.


Not all people live in apartments because they cannot afford a house, some people prefer to.


No need to change the eligibility of voting. Just need to be enforced to ensure only citizens are voting and of course, alive ones.

[RalliartRsX]

No need to change the eligibility of voting. Just need to be enforced to ensure only citizens are voting and of course, alive ones.


There has literally been ZERO evidence of voter fraud?? Why??

Because not only is it VERY difficult to pull off, the likelihood of actual jail time FAR outweighs the single vote being cast.

Can people stop fucking parroting that fucking lie already. For fucks sake.....It is NOT widespread and isolated to a very minor amount of cases. It just turns out, a majority of those cases are associated with the Republican party

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/30/us/mccrae-dowless-indictment.html

Election Fraud in North Carolina Leads to New Charges for Republican Operative

I am still waiting for this mass caravan of illegals to show up at the polling stations.........

[Corbic]

Apparently not a lot as this would exclude millions of Americans living in apartments.



https://www.statista.com/statistics/798113/share-of-population-living-apartments-by-state-usa/





Restricting voting based on home ownership is THE most un-American thing I have read in this thread.





Not all people live in apartments because they cannot afford a house, some people prefer to.An apartment can't be owned and a home?

The idea of land owners only goes back to the founders.

[ronmcdon]

cost of owning property would vary a lot on where one lives. in san francisco average house is over a million, los angeles almost 850k. In ny apartments often times the damn hoa's are more than the mortgage payments.

voting rights would be heavily correlated with cost of living of where the voter resides and that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. realistically there is no chance something like that would pass, as amusing as it would sound. you might as well say people who don't fear god should be disqualified from voting.

[RalliartRsX]

An apartment can't be owned and a home?

The idea of land owners only goes back to the founders.

Not exactly. The founding fathers wanted every WHITE land owner ro vote.......yes, the founding fathers were racist as shit and also only put 2/3 a price on a "negro" compared to a Caucasian....and never considered a "negro" an actual citizen.....

So yeah. You are consciously leaving out precious details which framed the founding fathers are racist, not just some good will men.

They eventually tussled with this until leaving it up to the states, and as i posted above, that went to shit as property owners were....you guessed it...white

And then take into effect shit like red lining and gerrymandering (and voter suppression and fraud by the gop...which posted an example of above) and you have the shit we have now....


https://www.loc.gov/classroom-materials/elections/right-to-vote/the-founders-and-the-vote/


Eventually, the framers of the Constitution left details of voting to the states. In Article I Section 4, the Constitution says:

The times, places and manner of holding elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each state by the legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by law make or alter such regulations.

Unfortunately, leaving election control to individual states led to unfair voting practices in the U.S. At first, white men with property were the only Americans routinely permitted to vote. President Andrew Jackson, champion of frontiersmen, helped advance the political rights of those who did not own property. By about 1860, most white men without property were enfranchised. But African Americans, women, Native Americans, non-English speakers, and citizens between the ages of 18 and 21 had to fight for the right to vote in this country.


The fact that you want only landowners (or in your case home owners) to vote and not ACTUAL citizens is deeply rooted in racism....so yeah

[Future240]

An apartment can't be owned and a home?

The idea of land owners only goes back to the founders.

A lot of them no.

You are correct, it goes back to the founders. Back when they were excluding women and black people to vote.

They figured out in 1792 it was a bad idea.

In my short life on earth, I have heard and read many comments on matters.

These two posts are quite literally in the top 5 of most ignorant things I have ever read.

I legitimately wonder whether you you have the mental capacity to really understand what you just said.

To be so narrow minded is just sad.






1789: The Constitution grants the states the power to set voting requirements. Generally, states limited this right to property-owning or tax-paying white males (about 6% of the population).[11]
1790: The Naturalization Act of 1790 allows white men born outside of the United States to become citizens with the right to vote.
1792?1838: Free black males lose the right to vote in several Northern states including in Pennsylvania and in New Jersey.
1792?1856: Abolition of property qualifications for white men, from 1792 (Kentucky) to 1856 (North Carolina) during the periods of Jeffersonian and Jacksonian democracy. However, tax-paying qualifications remained in five states in 1860?Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Pennsylvania, Delaware and North Carolina. They survived in Pennsylvania and Rhode Island until the 20th century.[16]

[Corbic]

Public education at its finest.


First. Thank you for the low expectation for "colored people" because apparently, according to you, "colored and negros" can't be contributing members of society.


Second, you completely do not understand history or contexts. Your "3/4 Negro-slave" statement is proof of this.

So for the act of census, you'd have preferred the Southern States population be inflated by counting non-voting slaves, thus getting more representation in congress and thus making it harder to reform and abolish slavery?

Great plan bruh.

One of the keys behind the idea of citizen voting is the idea that you have some stake in the game. The insane rush to communism is being driven by a bunch of shrieking blue haired dregs that can't even hold down a Starbucks job. Yeah, they should be making decisions regarding economic and tax policy.

This is why they don't care if taxes skyrocket, businesses shutdown, houses become unaffordable, Healthcare spirals out of control, etc. They are not impacted directly and when they are indirectly impacted they just cry about "the system" keep them down.

[Corbic]

A lot of them no.



You are correct, it goes back to the founders. Back when they were excluding women and black people to vote.



They figured out in 1792 it was a bad idea.



In my short life on earth, I have heard and read many comments on matters.



These two posts are quite literally in the top 5 of most ignorant things I have ever read.



I legitimately wonder whether you you have the mental capacity to really understand what you just said.



To be so narrow minded is just sad.Who got to vote prior to the constitution?

[RalliartRsX]

So Corbic is racist.

This is why I do not post in this thread.....Not even trying to hid it anymore.

:Sigh:

[Corbic]

So Corbic is racist.



This is why I do not post in this thread.....Not even trying to hid it anymore.



:Sigh:Based on what?


Hmmmm?

[RalliartRsX]

.......You literally dismissed an entire demographic based off your racist rhetoric.......not off of what is actually factually based.

That, in a nutshell, is not only a "privileged" mindset, to be frank, it is Racist. Simple.

If you cannot see that, then..........that's it. No need to continue. Your entire mindset of land owners being the only ones to vote, while consciously ignoring the fact that it is code for saying "no blacks or minorities" is racist. Simple. Regardless of if you accept this as fact (which it is)

You don't commit a crime and roll up to the judge and claim ignorance.

[spooled240]

An apartment can't be owned and a home?

The idea of land owners only goes back to the founders.

Having to purchase something in a volatile market shouldn't be a requirement to vote. We've seen the housing market completely collapse in the past and even today people are wondering how everything will pan out with all these delinquent loans from COVID. There are a lot of people that CAN buy a house, but choose not to for various reasons.

[RalliartRsX]

Corbic whatever happened to.......you know.....CITIZENS being able to vote?

If you are restricting citizens based off on tangible means, that is called oppression......which leads to racism in 98% of the cases against minorities

Simple.

[kingkilburn]

You won't ever progress if you can't admit what's plainly obvious. Whether malicious or not you've got a racial bias a mile wide.

P.S.
What you're asking for is undue control of land ownership that will absolutely lead to corruption on both ends of the spectrum. Whether it's land barons dominating regions or ownership being divided up between literally thousands to maintain voting privileges. What's better is minding your own goddam business

[RalliartRsX]

Having to purchase something in a volatile market shouldn't be a requirement to vote. We've seen the housing market completely collapse in the past and even today people are wondering how everything will pan out with all these delinquent loans from COVID. There are a lot of people that CAN buy a house, but choose not to for various reasons.


I want to pull on this string and make a slight alteration.

There are many folks who can AFFORD a mortgage, but not many folks can AFFORD a downpayment. Significant distinction and how you consolidate wealth among white folks. Why?? White folks are likely to be entrenched in the credit system, which the only way (unless you are ultra wealthy) to really "purchase" a house for 98% of the buying audience.

See also education;

I urge folks to read up on redlining.

[kingkilburn]

Everyone to Corbic

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[Future240]

Who got to vote prior to the constitution?

https://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/history-of-voting-in-america-timeline.pdf

White property owning men.

[RalliartRsX]

https://www.sos.wa.gov/_assets/elections/history-of-voting-in-america-timeline.pdf

White property owning men.

Specifically; white SLAVE owning men.....

Wasn't this stated by both yourself and I with categorical proof?? Not sure why it was ignored as that question was already answered....... :confused:

[spooled240]

It was a bad comparison, but I don't think Corbin is racist. I think his original point was saying that only people that contribute and have their best interests in society should be able to vote. The screaming blue-haired SJW that can't hold down the Starbucks job he mentioned could very well have been any race. Maybe elitist, but not racist.

[KA24DESOneThree]

Corbic considers me a blue-haired SJW genderqueer pansexual and I own both land and a couple businesses.

All I know is I love fucking pans.

[RalliartRsX]

And tell me what you define by contribute and have their best interest? Because as far as I am concerned, people in the US have a very self centered interest. So what makes the rich white guys motivation to vote to consolidate his wealth MORE important than the black mom who is voting for someone to push to strike down red lining? Which one a "better" contributor to society as a whole?

The entire notion of landowner is seeded in racism, simple. And if your rhetoric is, people who own land as opposed to...citizens, that's essentially a racist rhetoric....which you stand by although it has been proven it is racist in essence.

It would be one thing to state as such as everyone has a view point. Its another to state your opinion, being told (with actual proof) it's rooted in racism and then move to double down. That's racist as its a conscious decision to accept a false narrative seeded in racism as your stance.

Ps the screaming blue haired barista has every right to voice his or her opinion and voting choice as the rich white couple from St Louis with shitty gun control hiding behind some inane idea of protecting property

Its called democracy.

[RalliartRsX]

Ps ironic that trump is also telling folks of NC to commit a felony by voting twice for him...but yet, im still awaiting some random immigrant caravan

If you have to ask you voters to cheat to win, just maybe you're doing it wrong?

[kingkilburn]

This whole discussion is about the finer points of blowing a dog whistle and standing back to watch the chaos between moderates and those infringed.

[dbeiler]

REEEE, REEEEE, REEEEEE, you're racist, it's racist, that's racist

This is literally how you reply to anybody you disagree with. Give it a rest already.

[Corbic]

.......You literally dismissed an entire demographic based off your racist rhetoric.......not off of what is actually factually based.

That, in a nutshell, is not only a "privileged" mindset, to be frank, it is Racist. Simple.

If you cannot see that, then..........that's it. No need to continue. Your entire mindset of land owners being the only ones to vote, while consciously ignoring the fact that it is code for saying "no blacks or minorities" is racist. Simple. Regardless of if you accept this as fact (which it is)

You don't commit a crime and roll up to the judge and claim ignorance.What racist rhetoric?

[Corbic]

Corbic whatever happened to.......you know.....CITIZENS being able to vote?

If you are restricting citizens based off on tangible means, that is called oppression......which leads to racism in 98% of the cases against minorities

Simple.Oh, now I get it.

So, here is brain work.

Corbic : Only people invested in the system should have a say in the system.

ReeliartReeX: So you don't want black people to vote because they aren't invested in the system.

The problem isn't with my views or statement. The problem is with your own subconscious racism that believes blacks/minorities/etc can't own homes, pay taxes or be contributing members of society. So your immediate knee jerk reaction is to shriek racism.

This plays out the same way whenever voter ID is brought up. The left immediately believes poor colored people are too stupid and pathic to get an ID card and therefore voter ID is racist.

Good Job carrying that Whiteman's Burden.

[Corbic]

Corbic considers me a blue-haired SJW genderqueer pansexual and I own both land and a couple businesses.

All I know is I love fucking pans.I think you're a Champaign Socialist.

[RalliartRsX]

Corbic, you literally said, only folks who own land should vote......like the for fathers.


P.S If a shed load of people interpreted it as racist/ignorant, maybe, just maybe, your rhetoric is just that?? Racist??


P.S.S Land owners pay into the system as much as any tax payer. Why do landowners suddenly have a larger say over........any other tax payer??

And has been stated, Read up red lining Then come back to me and tell me why blacks don't own homes

[RalliartRsX]

Corbic, you literally said, only folks who own land should vote......like the for fathers.


P.S If a shed load of people interpreted it as racist/ignorant, maybe, just maybe, your rhetoric is just that?? Racist??


P.S.S Land owners pay into the system as much as any tax payer. Why do landowners suddenly have a larger say over........any other tax payer??

And has been stated, Read up red lining Then come back to me and tell me why blacks don't own homes

[Corbic]

Corbic, you literally said, only folks who own land should vote......like the for fathers.


P.S If a shed load of people interpreted it as racist/ignorant, maybe, just maybe, your rhetoric is just that?? Racist??


P.S.S Land owners pay into the system as much as any tax payer. Why do landowners suddenly have a larger say over........any other tax payer??

And has been stated, Read up red lining Then come back to me and tell me why blacks don't own homesYour right ReeeeeReee.

I miss spoke.

Only those who pay a net-negative income tax should get to vote. (ie your return doesn't give you back all your money)

Better?


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2......

3..........

[KA24DESOneThree]

I think you're a Champaign Socialist.

I prefer red wine, darling.

[Corbic]

And mind this all goes back to KA24 not wanting waffling swing voters to vote...

[kingkilburn]

Toot toot mother fucker! Blow that whistle.

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[zombiewolf513]

Corbic whatever happened to.......you know.....CITIZENS being able to vote?

If you are restricting citizens based off on tangible means, that is called oppression......which leads to racism in 98% of the cases against minorities

Simple.


Youre the fucking racist over here saying that black people cant/dont own homes.

[RalliartRsX]

Your right ReeeeeReee.

I miss spoke.

Only those who pay a net-negative income tax should get to vote. (ie your return doesn't give you back all your money)

Better?


1...

2......

3..........


Ok. I think we can have a discussion.

In economics, a negative income tax (NIT) is a system within an income tax where people earning below a certain amount receive supplemental pay from the government instead of paying taxes to the government.

Can you please help me out here; and I am being genuine and moving pass your comments; how does this relate to folks who only own land and why should folks "NIT" bracket be the only ones who are able to vote??

I am really trying to see the distinction here, because property owners =/= NIT. It seems NIT is mostly relegated to folks who are more....savy with their taxes (read, rich white people who have $$$ to pay for their personal accountant to allow them to jump through all these tax hoops and NOT pay their fair share of taxes).

However, digging a little deeper

A negative income tax is intended to create a single system that would not only pay for government, but would also fulfill the social goal of making sure that there was a minimum level of income for all. It is theorized that, with an NIT, the need for minimum wage, food stamps, welfare, social security programs and other government assistance programs could be eliminated, thus reducing the administrative effort and cost to a fraction of what it is under the current system. It would also eliminate the perverse incentives created by these overlapping aid programs, e.g. when a minimum wage worker who earns a little more nets out with less income because they are newly ineligible for aid.

So given your perspective on Welfare, I can understand your want for NIT.

However, that is also a form of socialism since the government is paying you your shortfall based off your socioeconomic standing, no??

[RalliartRsX]

Youre the fucking racist over here saying that black people cant/dont own homes.

Please point out exactly where I said that. Because I am pretty sure, you are just making shit up.

Corbic directly said......."land owners should be the only ones to vote". I brought up where that is seeded in racism

Please stop making shit up and try to have a discussion. It's like you didn't read shit, got triggered because of your sense of discomfort to talk about shit white people do to fuck people over, and immediately need to jump in to defend your for fathers action..

Or am I just making shit up........like you just did??

[zombiewolf513]

Youre a retard if you dont see that saying "restricting voting to property owners leads to racism against 98% of minorities"

Only 2% of minorities own property?
Youre a fucking racist.

"got triggered because of your sense of discomfort to talk about shit white people do to fuck people over"

Again racist. BTW, ITS OKAY TO BE WHITE

[RalliartRsX]

Corbic, also, a return at the end of the year is an interest free loan to the government.
It's just people who haven;t properly calculated their withholding for the year or per paycheck

[RalliartRsX]

I really have no clue who you are having a discussion with as it surely isn't response to my post

Please, take the time to properly exercise your ability to read.........

But if you are unable to, here, I will quote my full text here

Thanks for trying though. Valiant effort.....

Corbic whatever happened to.......you know.....CITIZENS being able to vote?

If you are restricting citizens based off on tangible means, that is called oppression......which leads to racism in 98% of the cases against minorities

Simple.

[RalliartRsX]

Youre a retard if you dont see that saying "restricting voting to property owners leads to racism against 98% of minorities"

Only 2% of minorities own property?
Youre a fucking racist.

"got triggered because of your sense of discomfort to talk about shit white people do to fuck people over"

Again racist. BTW, ITS OKAY TO BE WHITE


For fucks sake. READ! [email protected]! ENTIRE!POST!!

Please stop making shit up and try to have a discussion. It's like you didn't read shit, got triggered because of your sense of discomfort to talk about shit white people do to fuck people over, and immediately need to jump in to defend your for fathers action..

Or am I just making shit up........like you just did??

[zombiewolf513]

Funny how the people that claim to be so against racism are so fucking racist and dont even realize it. Youre insulting everyone. "Minorities dont own property so they wouldnt have a vote." "Whites are all racists and are gonna vote minorities into oppression". Only people obsessed with race think like this. Racist. Youre racist.

[RalliartRsX]

Youre a retard if you dont see that saying "restricting voting to property owners leads to racism against 98% of minorities"

Only 2% of minorities own property?
Youre a fucking racist.

"got triggered because of your sense of discomfort to talk about shit white people do to fuck people over"

Again racist. BTW, ITS OKAY TO BE WHITE


For fucks sake. READ! [email protected]! ENTIRE!POST!!

Please stop making shit up and try to have a discussion. It's like you didn't read shit, got triggered because of your sense of discomfort to talk about shit white people do to fuck people over, and immediately need to jump in to defend your for fathers action..

Or am I just making shit up........like you just did??

[zombiewolf513]

^^^Weve got a triggered reddit poster in the house, everyone

[RalliartRsX]

Zombie, ok.

Anyways, Corbic yeah I'm curious to understand the NIT route for realz

[zombiewolf513]

Corbic said nothing to do with race. You turned it into a race issue for your political gain, and then insulted my perceived race.

YOU ARE RACIST

[RalliartRsX]

Corbic said nothing to do with race. You turned it into a race issue for your political gain, and then insulted my perceived race.

YOU ARE RACIST


Ok. Thanks for your insight

Please don't speak for Corbic. If you want discuss reall issues, put your big boy pants on

Thanks and let the adults talk.

[zombiewolf513]

theres no arguing with your ignorance. Thats why im talking at you, not to you, bumpkin racist.

[FaLKoN240]

Census taken in 2017 (https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/index.html) whites versus minority home ownership

https://i2.wp.com/eyeonhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Figure1v2.jpg?w=960&ssl=1

[FaLKoN240]

Census taken in 2017 (https://www.census.gov/housing/hvs/index.html) whites versus minority home ownership

https://i2.wp.com/eyeonhousing.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Figure1v2.jpg?w=960&ssl=1

[RalliartRsX]

theres no arguing with your ignorance. Thats why im talking at you, not to you, bumpkin racist.

............are you done throwing your hissifit??? Are you going to add anything meaningful to this discussion??

See below (your post) for actual data posted by Falkon.

Please, allow the adults to consult. I think this discussion may be a little above your head.......

As I said, I have moved on from Corbic rhetoric as he was kind enough to explain his stance. I engaged and did some digging on NIT because I truly want to understand the relation

If all you can throw around is fragmented statements from my post......please, just exit the discussion so real folks can converse.

Thanks!

[KA24DESOneThree]

You are feeding a troll. There is no good faith in their posts and their sole purpose is to be a funhouse mirror, distorting whatever you say into something else entirely.

[zombiewolf513]

Whats your point?

That says "overall homeownership rate" not "white homeownership rate".

But assuming youre right and it does mean "white":
Looks like 47% of minorites own homes, and 63% of whites own homes. Only 16% difference after only 75 years of change? In a 70+% per capita white population? Wow huge disparity, only made larger by the rediculous crop out of <45% and >70%.

So if youre going to infer or imply that a property based vote would be inherently racist, you only think that because you WANT it to be the case.

If anything, a property ownership vote would eliminate a larger group of whites from being able to vote. Therfor giving the minority vote more power. Its why the Green New Deal insists on taking white farm land. Its <6 years away in the Democrat playbook. The klans back in town with a new uniform, amirite Democrats?

[RalliartRsX]

LOL! And someone just gave me a neg rep for my post.

No matter the differences I have with ANYONE in this thread, I have NEVER given anyone a neg rep. A positive rep, surely. But a neg rep. Nope. Everyone has their opinions and as much I do not agree, I will respect 1A.

Sounds about right for all the triggers snowflakes lol. Oh the ironing........

[RalliartRsX]

Whats your point?

That says "overall homeownership rate" not "white homeownership rate".

But assuming youre right and it does mean "white":
Looks like 47% of minorites own homes, and 63% of whites own homes. Only 16% difference after only 75 years of change? In a 70+% per capita white population? Wow huge disparity, only made larger by the rediculous crop out of <45% and >70%.

So if youre going to infer or imply that a property based vote would be inherently racist, you only think that because you WANT it to be the case.

You do realize we are referring to the comment Corbic made about fore fathers right?? And the fact that; that is exactly how they thought; only property holders (White MALE) were allowed to vote......until they gave that power to the states.....at which point, it became just that. White owners whoa re property owners vote because of opression

Did youread ANYTHING prior to being triggered?? Holy shit dude.

Seriously, go fucking read the last page. We took issue with the fact that he wanted to revert things to what the forefathers did.........which is RACIST as we all (except you it seems) have come to accept,

Do you history bro or just get triggered because of your discomfort??

For fucks sakes dude.........

[zombiewolf513]

You are feeding a troll. There is no good faith in their posts and their sole purpose is to be a funhouse mirror, distorting whatever you say into something else entirely.

Thanks for dehumanizing me again, asshole.

[FaLKoN240]

Whats your point?

That says "overall homeownership rate" not "white homeownership rate".

But assuming youre right and it does mean "white":
Looks like 47% of minorites own homes, and 63% of whites own homes. Only 16% difference after only 75 years of change? In a 70+% per capita white population? Wow huge disparity, only made larger by the rediculous crop out of <45% and >70%.

So if youre going to infer or imply that a property based vote would be inherently racist, you only think that because you WANT it to be the case.

If anything, a property ownership vote would eliminate a larger group of whites from being able to vote. Therfor giving the minority vote more power. Its why the Green New Deal insists on taking white farm land. Its <6 years away in the Democrat playbook. The klans back in town with a new uniform, amirite Democrats?

Sorry, you're right, I posted the wrong data. And it's a bit old.

Here's a better one.

https://14av231vas55424hmywyupd1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/black_white_homeownership_difference-2.webp

Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/06/29/black-homeownership-lags-whites-fueling-wealth-gap-report-finds/3244738001/

[kingkilburn]

Why do you guys engage these racists like you're going to change their minds? Everyone reading this knows the score. Why do they get access to us to further gaslight and abuse? It's not like the first amendment applies on a privately owned internet forum.

[S14rebuild]

LOL! And someone just gave me a neg rep for my post.

No matter the differences I have with ANYONE in this thread, I have NEVER given anyone a neg rep. A positive rep, surely. But a neg rep. Nope. Everyone has their opinions and as much I do not agree, I will respect 1A.

Sounds about right for all the triggers snowflakes lol. Oh the ironing........


Lol ive collected more neg rep for political offtopic discussion then anywhere elrs on a car based forum...lots of softies here

[zombiewolf513]

Sorry, you're right, I posted the wrong data. And it's a bit old.

Here's a better one.

https://14av231vas55424hmywyupd1-wpengine.netdna-ssl.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2020/06/black_white_homeownership_difference-2.webp

Source: https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2020/06/29/black-homeownership-lags-whites-fueling-wealth-gap-report-finds/3244738001/

Cherry picked metro areas being used out of context to serve a political agenda of MSM CEOs by fueling racial tensions

Why do you guys engage these racists like you're going to change their minds? Everyone reading this knows the score. Why do they get access to us to further gaslight and abuse? It's not like the first amendment applies on a privately owned internet forum.

>shoves people into ideological isolation
>wonders why theres issues with self radicalization

You dont have to participate if you dont like the conversation. Just like everyone else. Race obsessed freak.

[S14rebuild]

Why do you guys engage these racists like you're going to change their minds? Everyone reading this knows the score. Why do they get access to us to further gaslight and abuse? It's not like the first amendment applies on a privately owned internet forum.


I mean you dont have to reply? And if ur calling for censorship because its against ur belief and opinion id say u have thin skin and thats a cop out way togo

[zombiewolf513]

Dudes probably a communist that thinks private property isnt a thing, too. His latest post is emblematic of the majority of his posts lol. Fascist much?

[RalliartRsX]

Why do you guys engage these racists like you're going to change their minds? Everyone reading this knows the score. Why do they get access to us to further gaslight and abuse? It's not like the first amendment applies on a privately owned internet forum.

Because its the right thing to do.

You need to realize, there are more to this than the Corbic and Zombie of the world . And evidenced in just this thread ALOT of folks had no idea about any of the historical stuff for the past 400 years which has led up to the shit we have now

Shoot, peole who lived in the town of Juneteeth had no idea of its significance

Also, history is written by the winners. People don't realize how racists the for fathers were and the idiots who celebrate Confederacy for instance (like trump) don't even realize the civil war was fought so south can retain slavery NOT state rights which is what is being taught.

A discussion is a discussion and why I don't give negative rep in this thread....ever

[RalliartRsX]

lol @ zombie. He asks for stats. He gets stats and says "oh shit 3 years is too old". He gets new updated stats which paint an even grimmer picture

"Man fuck that! It's cherry picked bullshit"

Always a moving goal posts.....always

You can't fucking please......lol

[zombiewolf513]

Rep is a social construct

Not meeting an acceptable standard isnt shifting the goalpost. Its saying "you didnt make a point"

I said nothing about the age of the study btw. I even fully argued her first post giving her credit that the data she presented fit what she was trying to say. Dont speak for Falkon

You are absolutely SEETHING right now lol. Cant wait to see you misappropriate that one too.

[RalliartRsX]

Does it matter WHERE racial oppression occurs?? City centers or rural, the same concept we have been saying for the past several pages before you interjected your nonsense;

Wealth is consolidated in white home ownership and using property ownership alone, is Oppression. Simple.

Again read red lining. When you read it, please come came with valuable discussion.

[kingkilburn]

The people that deserve the negative rep are so deep in the red it wouldn't matter of I gave them more. Their only response is more gaslighting and dog whistling, as can be seen above. They think not getting to call me what their grandfathers called my grandfather is censorship rather than basic decency. Lost cause.

I'd much rather see the black mods and members host an informative discussion of historical fact to educate well meaning members than CONSTANTLY entertain these same assholes all the fucking time.

[zombiewolf513]

Does it matter WHERE racial oppression occurs?? City centers or rural, the same concept we have been saying for the past several pages before you interjected your nonsense;

Wealth is consolidated in white home ownership and using property ownership alone, is Oppression. Simple.

Again read red lining. When you read it, please come came with valuable discussion.


That you think its "simple" shows how simple you are. Youre incapable of introspection.


Wah i cant make an argument Im being abused MOMMMMMMM!!!!

[S14rebuild]

The people that deserve the negative rep are so deep in the red it wouldn't matter of I gave them more. Their only response is more gaslighting and dog whistling, as can be seen above. They think not getting to call me what their grandfathers called my grandfather is censorship rather than basic decency. Lost cause.

I'd much rather see the black mods and members host an informative discussion of historical fact to educate well meaning members than CONSTANTLY entertain these same assholes all the fucking time.

I dont deserve it..... philp got mad in the nba thread, cause i said lebron shouldnt speak on politics just focus on basketball..... and neg rep bomb....he Said take it to loud topic....

But if they feel their power over me is thru the rep system, then by all means let it bring a smile to their face lol zilvia rep doesnt make me!a yea yea!!!!!!lmao

[FaLKoN240]

Cherry picked metro areas being used out of context to serve a political agenda of MSM CEOs by fueling racial tensions



>shoves people into ideological isolation
>wonders why theres issues with self radicalization

You dont have to participate if you dont like the conversation. Just like everyone else. Race obsessed freak.

I cherry picked the data? It shows the largest and smallest home ownership gaps... LOL

[zombiewolf513]

In metropolitan areas. Where the wealth gaps are the worst and overpopulated. You arent even proving any point. Much less one on a national scale. Cherry picked.

[Phlip]

I dont deserve it..... philp got mad in the nba thread, cause i said lebron shouldnt speak on politics just focus on basketball..... and neg rep bomb....he Said take it to loud topic....

But if they feel their power over me is thru the rep system, then by all means let it bring a smile to their face lol zilvia rep doesnt make me!a yea yea!!!!!!lmao
If you're going to say my name, tell the story right.
You introduced a topic to the NBA thread that had nothing to do with anything anyone was talking about, I deleted that post, advising to contain political bullshit to the section that does not add to anyone's post count. You persisted and THEN I negative repped you.
If you're still talking about it, though, I will take that to mean that I have something over you.

[FaLKoN240]

I'm not sure what else needs to be said or what I'm even trying to prove anymore lol

Ignorance to the figures and numbers may not be racist, but being called out for why it is inherently racist still stands.

If you google the disparity and figures, you will find the information.

Across the entire country there is a 30% disparity gap between white and black home ownership.

Which is why Corbic saying property ownership and eligibility to vote is problematic.

[FaLKoN240]

I'm not sure what else needs to be said or what I'm even trying to prove anymore lol

Ignorance to the figures and numbers may not be racist, but being called out for why it is inherently racist still stands.

If you google the disparity and figures, you will find the information.

Across the entire country there is a 30% disparity gap between white and black home ownership.

Which is why Corbic saying property ownership and eligibility to vote is problematic.

[Future240]

See what Corbic said in itself is not a racist statement. Classist for sure.

HOWEVER

It just happens to be a something (Property based voting) that was used by racists people (the founders) to do racists things. (Exclude blacks from voting)

So when a person wants a return to that(Property based voting). Kind of makes you wonder what their true motive is...

[Future240]

See what Corbin said in itself is not a racist statement. Classist for sure.

HOWEVER

It just happens to be a something that was used by racists people (the founders) to do racists things. (Exclude blacks from voting)

So when a person wants a return to that. Kind of makes you wonder what their true motive is...

[S14rebuild]

If you're going to say my name, tell the story right.
You introduced a topic to the NBA thread that had nothing to do with anything anyone was talking about, I deleted that post, advising to contain political bullshit to the section that does not add to anyone's post count. You persisted and THEN I negative repped you.
If you're still talking about it, though, I will take that to mean that I have something over you.
You should tell the story right...

You deleted my post and said nothing. So i went back and reposted it, then u neg bombed me....

I only pointed out politics in basketball, cause its covered and discussed in the NBA LEAGUE...then why would i not bring it up in the nba thread? Is it not related? I better not see any RIP kobe in the same thread because its not related...he died, wasnt even in the league anymore... seems like if its not the score its not relevant to UR thread. Its okay ur mad, i forgive you king phlip.

I only brought it up cause it was relative to the topic and discussion at hand...seems like u have a problem with that..not me

Carry on now

[zombiewolf513]

See what Corbin said in itself is not a racist statement. Classist for sure.

HOWEVER

It just happens to be a something that was used by racists people (the founders) to do racists things. (Exclude blacks from voting)

So when a person wants a return to that. Kind of makes you wonder what their true motive is...

In this context, sure, i see how it raises a ?. But in every day conversation, itd be a huge stretch to assume the average person tossing the idea around is doing so based in racism. You could say the very same thing about idea of democracy... essentially mob rule of the white majority over non-white people since the founding of the country. See how easy that is?

[deolio]

Wow the popcorn machine sure has been busy today LOL

Aside from Corbic's proposal being racist or not, it's just plain idiotic. PERIOD

[zombiewolf513]

Why dont we just let the entire world vote for the US president? Is that because racisms too?

[deolio]

Why dont we just let the entire world vote for the US president? Is that because racisms too?

Already letting China and Russia do the voting for us, we might as well :cj:

[S14rebuild]

In this context, sure, i see how it raises a ?. But in every day conversation, itd be a huge stretch to assume the average person tossing the idea around is doing so based in racism. You could say the very same thing about idea of democracy... essentially mob rule of the white majority over non-white people since the founding of the country. See how easy that is?

Easy....cancel culture.

[zombiewolf513]

Already letting China and Russia do the voting for us, we might as well :cj:

Trump, the president of progress.

I'm voting Biden/Harris 2020, "They might be idiots, but theyre our useful idiots."

[Phlip]

You should tell the story right...

You deleted my post and said nothing. So i went back and reposted it, then u neg bombed me....

I only pointed out politics in basketball, cause its covered and discussed in the NBA LEAGUE...then why would i not bring it up in the nba thread? Is it not related? I better not see any RIP kobe in the same thread because its not related...he died, wasnt even in the league anymore... seems like if its not the score its not relevant to UR thread. Its okay ur mad, i forgive you king phlip.

I only brought it up cause it was relative to the topic and discussion at hand...seems like u have a problem with that..not me

Carry on now

What you posted had nothing to do with the NBA, it had to do with a false equivalency wherein the suspect was immediately arrested and charged. But since you were being a contraarian ass looking to introduce an argument, I deleted the post since it was better suited to THIS shithole of a subsection. You earned your negative reputation by continuing. You tried to retaliate, but it was rendered useless before you ever got to it.
You can try to frame this any way you want, but every way you have tried thus far has been dead wrong. The fact that you cannot let it go suggests that you're clearly bothered though.

[S14rebuild]

What you posted had nothing to do with the NBA, it had to do with a false equivalency wherein the suspect was immediately arrested and charged. But since you were being a contraarian ass looking to introduce an argument, I deleted the post since it was better suited to THIS shithole of a subsection. You earned your negative reputation by continuing. You tried to retaliate, but it was rendered useless before you ever got to it.
You can try to frame this any way you want, but every way you have tried thus far has been dead wrong. The fact that you cannot let it go suggests that you're clearly bothered though.

What i posted 100% had todo with todays NBA...seems ur ignorance wont allow u to see that. Its okay not gonna keep going around and around with you.



TRUMP 2020!

[Phlip]

What i posted 100% had todo with todays NBA...seems ur ignorance wont allow u to see that. Its okay not gonna keep going around and around with you.



TRUMP 2020!

What you posted had to do with a case in which someone was killed and the killer was immediately arrested, you tried to use that case to minimize what was being protested.
That has nothing to do with the NBA.
But I'll tell you what. Your argument here for my apparent ignorance was so compelling that I will go in the AdminCP and delete my -rep from your profile.

[S14rebuild]

What you posted had to do with a case in which someone was killed and the killer was immediately arrested, you tried to use that case to minimize what was being protested.
That has nothing to do with the NBA.
But I'll tell you what. Your argument here for my apparent ignorance was so compelling that I will go in the AdminCP and delete my -rep from your profile.


No no no...i wear my neg rep like a badge of honor, specially it was received from YOU.

[Future240]

In this context, sure, i see how it raises a ?. But in every day conversation, itd be a huge stretch to assume the average person tossing the idea around is doing so based in racism. You could say the very same thing about idea of democracy... essentially mob rule of the white majority over non-white people since the founding of the country. See how easy that is?

But we are not talking everyday convo. We are talking about this context. In this context I agree it is not directly racist. However it raises a lot of questions about Corbic's character and moral fiber.

Because why would he want to return to something like that?

later he says he misspoke which reminds me of a politician walking back something they said and "clarifying"

I think people show you their true thoughts when the first speak/write then when they get called on it, they have to "clarify".

[Future240]

In this context, sure, i see how it raises a ?. But in every day conversation, itd be a huge stretch to assume the average person tossing the idea around is doing so based in racism. You could say the very same thing about idea of democracy... essentially mob rule of the white majority over non-white people since the founding of the country. See how easy that is?

But we are not talking everyday convo. We are talking about this context. In this context I agree it is not directly racist. However it raises a lot of questions about Corbic's character and moral fiber.

Because why would he want to return to something like that?

later he says he misspoke which reminds me of a politician walking back something they said and "clarifying"

I think people show you their true thoughts when the first speak/write then when they get called on it, they have to "clarify".

[SupaDoopa]

Already letting China and Russia do the voting for us, we might as well :cj:

And you have first hand experience with factual, unequivocal evidence of this or did TMZ tell you that? Because if you did, there are legal proceedings that can happen to remove him. So please, share with the world all the concrete evidence you have on this statement rather than some article written by a booger-eating nerd who rents a room in the basement of a basement somewhere in shithole NY hoping to make it big because their pictures of Spider-Man weren't good enough.

[RalliartRsX]

And you have first hand experience with factual, unequivocal evidence of this or did TMZ tell you that? Because if you did, there are legal proceedings that can happen to remove him. So please, share with the world all the concrete evidence you have on this statement rather than some article written by a booger-eating nerd who rents a room in the basement of a basement somewhere in shithole NY hoping to make it big because their pictures of Spider-Man weren't good enough.

Literally all the intelligence agencies came out to say this

Wtf dude. Do you even pay attention?

[kingkilburn]

The whole world knows what's going on but American conservatives, and as per usual we have to do what they want or they threaten civil war.

[jdmgtom]

Literally all the intelligence agencies came out to say this

Wtf dude. Do you even pay attention?

FAKE NEWS!, why does the left hate America? its bad when I see an American flag outside someones home and I assume they're not a democrat. Why does the democrat use racial tension every 4 years around election time? hmmm..

[S14rebuild]

FAKE NEWS!, why does the left hate America? its bad when I see an American flag outside someones home and I assume they're not a democrat. Why does the democrat use racial tension every 4 years around election time? hmmm..


Haha, i was literally just thinkn this...suprised myself..saw trucks with american flags flyn...said they gotta vote republican. Then said wait why do i think this way? Realized its just the truth

[Future240]

Yall are so basic.

The left hates america.

The right is evil.

Politics now is on some gang gang.

Red vs blue.

I am still looking for the politician who can cut through the bs reach across the aisle to get shit done.

Other than fringe groups the actual truth is no one hates America. We all love our country and want to see it prosper. We just have different ideas on how to get it done.

The generalizations made by each side only diminished one another and never really lead to any true progress.

[Future240]

Yall are so basic.

The left hates america.

The right is evil.

Politics now is on some gang gang.

Red vs blue.

I am still looking for the politician who can cut through the bs reach across the aisle to get shit done.

Other than fringe groups the actual truth is no one hates America. We all love our country and want to see it prosper. We just have different ideas on how to get it done.

The generalizations made by each side only diminished one another and never really lead to any true progress.

[kingkilburn]

Bernie Sanders was actively pulling working class white men but the DNC had to shut that all the way down. Told everyone he cosigned dumbass ideas when in reality they were starting to cosign his.

I'll never understand the argument made against Sanders by rank and file Democrats.

BTW, when people say Democrats or Republicans they should rightly be referring to the elected officials and actual party members and NOT citizen voters. You are not the party, your votes legitimize the party. Remember that when their words and actions don't line up.

[jdmgtom]

False, what about these mobs chanting "death to America"? THESE MOFO'S DON'T CARE ABOUT AMERICA, these mother fvckers burning down small business and sh!t, these rioters don't even have a job beside them getting paid to do this wreckless sh!t. These rioters are funded by the left and even getting bailed out! wtf and Kyle Writtenhouse is in jail right now for defending himself against these terrorists. What gets me going is when I see people getting pulled out their car and then get beat to death or when a little 4 year old boy gets shot in the head for no reason other than him being white. Keep that sh!t up lefties and civil war will come. This is only the beginning because if Trump wins, it'll be worse, according to the democrats if you watched the DNC...

[zombiewolf513]

Lots of Bernie voters saying the election cant be rigged. Ironic. Just like the people saying mail in voting is secure accusing Trump of tampering with the mail in vote. Like wtf guys.

If the far left wanted to meet in the middle, they've had HUGE opportunities with Trump. They kick sand in America's face over and over.

[spooled240]

I dont deserve it..... philp got mad in the nba thread, cause i said lebron shouldnt speak on politics just focus on basketball..... and neg rep bomb....he Said take it to loud topic....

In a brash sort of way, I think he was agreeing with you. Politics don't belong in the NBA lol

[SupaDoopa]

Literally all the intelligence agencies came out to say this

Wtf dude. Do you even pay attention?

If the 'intelligence agencies' all came out and Pelosi who very well could die any second [which would also mean another sweet rack has fallen victim of age] hasn't tried to throw the dude in jail, I bet there is no meat on that bone you're gnawing on. Maybe you should refer to them as 'unintelligence agencies.' See what I did there?

[kingkilburn]

You guys literally sound like Alex Jones growling buzz words red in the face. Completely and utterly disconnected from reality. It's honestly amazing how talk radio, white nationalists bloggers, and fox news keep you so wired
a l l t h e t i m e

Try finding a news or commentary source outside of the self-referential bubble.

[SupaDoopa]

So what are you suggesting? Anyone that doesn't agree with you is just racist and unintelligent?

[Future240]

False, what about these mobs chanting "death to America"? THESE MOFO'S DON'T CARE ABOUT AMERICA, these mother fvckers burning down small business and sh!t, these rioters don't even have a job beside them getting paid to do this wreckless sh!t. These rioters are funded by the left and even getting bailed out! wtf and Kyle Writtenhouse is in jail right now for defending himself against these terrorists. What gets me going is when I see people getting pulled out their car and then get beat to death or when a little 4 year old boy gets shot in the head for no reason other than him being white. Keep that sh!t up lefties and civil war will come. This is only the beginning because if Trump wins, it'll be worse, according to the democrats if you watched the DNC...

Other than fringe groups the actual truth is no one hates America. We all love our country and want to see it prosper. We just have different ideas on how to get it done.

Reading is fundamental

Let me bold it for you.

Those are hundreds of people. Maybe thousands

in 2018 democrats were around 60 million
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_parties_in_the_United_States

[zombiewolf513]

It looks that way, but that's because its actually the advanced stages of an undermined ideology. Its sad, but the rate its becoming more pervasive is even more sad. Trump signing away the critical race theory crap was a relief, but for how long?

[kingkilburn]

So what are you suggesting? Anyone that doesn't agree with you is just racist and unintelligent?

I didn't suggest anything but if the shoe fits lace the mother fucker up.

[SupaDoopa]

You guys literally sound like Alex Jones growling buzz words red in the face. Completely and utterly disconnected from reality. It's honestly amazing how talk radio, white nationalists bloggers, and fox news keep you so wired
a l l t h e t i m e

Try finding a news or commentary source outside of the self-referential bubble.

I didn't suggest anything but if the shoe fits lace the mother fucker up.

Well, I stand corrected. You definitely didn't suggest it - you just blatantly said it. Who here actually watches any of that shit? I wouldn't even know how to find white nationalist blogs short of googling it and I have no interest.

Not everyone has to agree with your way of thinking. Hitler tried something like that once. It didn't work out so well.

[kingkilburn]

I'm sure all black left libertarians just adore Hitler. You should keep comparing us to him.

[Corbic]

https://youtu.be/9JjSq6F7bPU

[Future240]

Well, I stand corrected. You definitely didn't suggest it - you just blatantly said it. Who here actually watches any of that shit? I wouldn't even know how to find white nationalist blogs short of googling it and I have no interest.

Not everyone has to agree with your way of thinking. Hitler tried something like that once. It didn't work out so well.

I'm sure all black left libertarians just adore Hitler. You should keep comparing us to him.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law#:~:text=Godwin's%20law%20(or%20Godw in's%20rule,Nazis%20or%20Hitler%20approaches%201%2 2.

[Corbic]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200911/e2309fe7136a6d788e804e5898a7fa71.jpg


Reeeeeeeeee




Reeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

[Corbic]

So to all the never Trumpers...


Did it make you happy or angry when they found zero evidence Trump and his campaign had colluded with Russia?

[kingkilburn]

Where are you pulling "zero evidence" from? I don't know why I'm asking, it's not like you ever care about factual anything anyway.

I hate to break it to you but you spelled it wrong.
https://i.insider.com/5f5bac297ed0ee001e25ed60?width=1100&format=jpeg&auto=webp

[jdmgtom]

Who's gonna tell him?

[jdmgtom]

Where are you pulling "zero evidence" from? I don't know why I'm asking, it's not like you ever care about factual anything anyway.

I hate to break it to you but you spelled it wrong.
https://i.insider.com/5f5bac297ed0ee001e25ed60?width=1100&format=jpeg&auto=webp

smh... who's gonna tell this man?

[Corbic]

Where are you pulling "zero evidence" from? I don't know why I'm asking, it's not like you ever care about factual anything anyway.

I hate to break it to you but you spelled it wrong.
https://i.insider.com/5f5bac297ed0ee001e25ed60?width=1100&format=jpeg&auto=webpPut up your source.

Mueller, after 3 years found no evidence of collusion.

Clearly you don't care about facts and fall. Under the camp of "angry".

I would think you'd feel relieved. Thr fact your angry and bitter shows it never had anything to do with Russia, but just a weapon against Trump in an attempt to undo the election.

If you came out and proved that Biden wasn't a senile groping creep... I'd be surprised and relieved, not angry.

Funny how times change...

https://youtu.be/mCJMF7mflGE

[kingkilburn]

No, you provide proof for your claim. See how that works? It's easy.

[RalliartRsX]

Corbic, I am still interested in your NIT stance. Seriously

No trump, just a economic stance and why as I am genuinely curious.

[kingkilburn]

https://i.imgur.com/X1YVHUj.jpg


The fucking irony. You guys have those labels at the ready like you're ready for a shootout at the ok corral.

[kingkilburn]

Get it straight from the horse's mouth.

xtpgkX588nM


I'd prefer a housing stipend and universal basic income, both as means of supporting the those at the bottom and as market control. Really you do this AND negative income tax to create a gradient of use of aid rather than the obvious busted binary unfucked/fucked/unfucked our current welfare system creates.


Like I said, left libertarian. You idiots spout your mouths off knowing less than nothing.

[Corbic]

https://i.imgur.com/X1YVHUj.jpg


The fucking irony. You guys have those labels at the ready like you're ready for a shootout at the ok corral.#leftcantmeme

[Corbic]

No, you provide proof for your claim. See how that works? It's easy.Already stated.

3 Year Federal Investigation that found nothing. Go read the Mueller report.

[Corbic]

Corbic, I am still interested in your NIT stance. Seriously

No trump, just a economic stance and why as I am genuinely curious.What NIT stance.

My statement was about people who actual pay Income Taxes, as in the net, and not gross.

Plenty of twats "pay taxes" but then get a refund that exceeds their actual income tax.

So dance around all you want.

My personal opinion is a flat tax and abolishing the IRS and refunds as we know it. We spend an obscene amount of money trying to collect taxes and manage refunds.

I also believe in reforming property taxes, which continue to increase. Why should we be taxed again and again on something we already got taxed on?

Also, end public schools.

[kingkilburn]

Multi year ongoing investigation has multiple convictions. What planet do you live on?

[Corbic]

Multi year ongoing investigation has multiple convictions. What planet do you live on?For collusion? Really.

Can you link a conviction?

[kingkilburn]

You don't even know what that word means, Corbic. Pick another topic to move the goalposts on.

[S14rebuild]

Just a question...do yall think California will stay a blue state this election? I know its not a swing state, but just notice alot of people truly unhappy with the way things are going there.


Being from florida im concernd Trump will NOT (EDIT)win the state again...

[Corbic]

You don't even know what that word means, Corbic. Pick another topic to move the goalposts on.Sooo, I take that's a no....

[Corbic]

Just a question...do yall think California will stay a blue state this election? I know its not a swing state, but just notice alot of people truly unhappy with the way things are going there.

Would be amazing. Laguna Hills is wall to wall Trump 2020.


Being from florida im concernd Trump will win the state again...

All those damn White Supermeanest Cubans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-channeling-castro-why-are-cuban-americans-voting-for-him/ar-BB18kagy


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[kingkilburn]

California Republicans think they're conservative until they actually talk with Republicans from other parts of the country. I'm in Fresno, it's like conservative cosplay. As soon as we start talking details of conservative policy it's all back pedaling.

Why do you think Devin Nunes never says anything of consequence? BTW, he always wins because the local Democratic Party is a bunch of straight up fucking idiots. They'd lose unopposed.

[zombiewolf513]

How many times was Trump impeached? None.
No evidence.
Two terms.
Two scoops.

[kingkilburn]

See. There it is again. He was impeached. He wasn't removed. You guys don't get to just ignore what happened.

You get to say you agree with his actions and motivations. It'd be stupid but at least honest. This foaming at the mouth screaming lies can only go unopposed for so long.

[Corbic]

See. There it is again. He was impeached. He wasn't removed. You guys don't get to just ignore what happened.

You get to say you agree with his actions and motivations. It'd be stupid but at least honest. This foaming at the mouth screaming lies can only go unopposed for so long.He was impeached for colluding with Russians during his campaign?

Or was he impeached for requesting Ukraine give over information on how Biden used his political power to influence Ukraine and fire a judge to stop a corruption investigations against Biden's son and Russian bankers?

Hmmmm

Nice Gestapo tricks your DNC home boys are running.

[kingkilburn]

There go those moving goalposts. What on earth makes you think the DNC are my homeboys? Left Libertarian. Left. Libertarian.

[kingkilburn]

This entire situation is like playing chess with pigeons. It doesn't matter how good you are or how well you know the rules, some openly racist bootlicker is going to come in and kick the table over screaming about how the sky is a jewish conspiracy paid for by a secret cabal of polynesian athletes from the future.

They're not playing the game. You didn't even lose. Everything is just shit on the walls and white rage.

[zombiewolf513]

No... he wasnt... impeachment requires both the congress and senate to impeach him. His impeachment didnt pass the senate. get your shit straight.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/02/05/trump-impeachment-vote-110805

[kingkilburn]

Weird double post

[kingkilburn]

You prove my point every time you post. You're wrong and it doesn't matter to you.

Edit

Have you ever really considered how much you might be wrong about through no fault of your own? Consider that perhaps all news media kind of suck right now and all these assholes want you thinking and feeling a certain way. Does it change anything for you to really know and understand that Trump was impeached? Maybe you become just a little bit less of an unwitting cheerleader? IDK, food for thought.

[SimpleS14]

Just a question...do yall think California will stay a blue state this election?


Being from florida im concernd Trump will win the state again...

Yes, California will stay a majority blue state. As for Florida, I think Trump will win that state again too.

[zombiewolf513]

How many times was Trump impeached? None.
No evidence.
Two terms.
Two scoops.

Two Nobels.

https://nypost.com/2020/09/11/donald-trump-nominated-for-second-nobel-peace-prize/

[deolio]

And you have first hand experience with factual, unequivocal evidence of this or did TMZ tell you that? Because if you did, there are legal proceedings that can happen to remove him. So please, share with the world all the concrete evidence you have on this statement rather than some article written by a booger-eating nerd who rents a room in the basement of a basement somewhere in shithole NY hoping to make it big because their pictures of Spider-Man weren't good enough.

It?s a hand grenade of discourse. I can provide as much evidence as the right can prove... literally anything about their opponents. Spouting off random conspiracy theories is as good as gold these days.

This entire situation is like playing chess with pigeons. It doesn't matter how good you are or how well you know the rules, some openly racist bootlicker is going to come in and kick the table over screaming about how the sky is a jewish conspiracy paid for by a secret cabal of polynesian athletes from the future.

They're not playing the game. You didn't even lose. Everything is just shit on the walls and white rage.

This right MOTHERFUCKIN HERE

Never ending circle of ?what-about?s? and conspiracy theories to circumnavigate reality because white people have a hard time reconciling with their racial tendencies and predisposition for greed (which is universal, but white privilege usually makes it easier).

People are always so damn defensive because they think others are as unforgiving as they are. Humans acting as HUMANS, undivided by party lines, are the most forgiving creatures in the animal kingdom. Give it a rest and STOP RESISTING! *boom boom boom* I WAS FEELING THREATENED BY A BLACK GUY! HE WAS BLACK!!! *smashes gavel* Not guilty! Trump tweet: ?good people on both sides? *gropes under age girl in Biden*

[zombiewolf513]

Dont you have a Burn Loot Murder riot to attend tonight? Californians tears are apart of the hydrologic cycle at this point lol

[S14rebuild]

Would be amazing. Laguna Hills is wall to wall Trump 2020.




All those damn White Supermeanest Cubans.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-is-channeling-castro-why-are-cuban-americans-voting-for-him/ar-BB18kagy


Reeeeeeeeeeeeeee

i meant will not win florida.....

[deolio]

Dont you have a Burn Loot Murder riot to attend tonight? Californians tears are apart of the hydrologic cycle at this point lol

Funny your name is zombiewolf because half the time it sounds like a parasite is eating your brain and the other half it?s like you have a coherent thought I can actually argue. Let?s focus on that wolf part ok bud?

[Corbic]

This entire situation is like playing chess with pigeons. It doesn't matter how good you are or how well you know the rules, some openly racist bootlicker is going to come in and kick the table over screaming about how the sky is a jewish conspiracy paid for by a secret cabal of polynesian athletes from the future.

They're not playing the game. You didn't even lose. Everything is just shit on the walls and white rage.

Are you talking into mirror?

Sounds a lot like your playing a game of SJW Bingo.

Dog Whistle, Conspiracy!, Racist, Bigot, Fascist, Hitler, Russia, Privilege, White Rage, etc....


TDS is strong on Zilvia, but then again...

[KA24DESOneThree]

Corbic, don't you play conservative bingo just as often, if not more?

SJW, BLM, antifa, communist, socialist, terrorist, thug, etc...

Those who live in glass houses and all that.

[kingkilburn]

How can a person be an sjw and a libertarian? Come on, man.

It's all insults and misdirection with you.

[Corbic]

How can a person be an sjw and a libertarian? Come on, man.

It's all insults and misdirection with you.Use whatever labels you want, doesn't matter.

[Corbic]

Corbic, don't you play conservative bingo just as often, if not more?

SJW, BLM, antifa, communist, socialist, terrorist, thug, etc...

Those who live in glass houses and all that.The difference there is in the facts.

A Trump supporter is not a racist, Bigot or Nazi. If fact ya'll have to make up hate crimes to try and prove America is racist.

A member of Antifa IS a Communist..

A member of BLM IS a Communist...

They both actively advocate the dismantling of the America way of life. Both advocate violence and disruption... "No Justice, No Peace"

This is in their very mission statements. The both embrace the ideas of socialism and communism and actively lobby for it. It's not a conspiracy, it's not a strawman, it's not an extreme example.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200912/bcd9fef78eb27d3853f6c6f1563d8fc8.jpg

[S14rebuild]

The difference there is in the facts.

A Trump supporter is not a racist, Bigot or Nazi. If fact ya'll have to make up hate crimes to try and prove America is racist.

A member of Antifa IS a Communist..

A member of BLM IS a Communist...

They both actively advocate the dismantling of the America way of life. Both advocate violence and disruption... "No Justice, No Peace"

This is in their very mission statements. The both embrace the ideas of socialism and communism and actively lobby for it. It's not a conspiracy, it's not a strawman, it's not an extreme example.


https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200912/bcd9fef78eb27d3853f6c6f1563d8fc8.jpg

100% truth.... BLM is a terrorist group

[kingkilburn]

Do labels matter or not? Make up your minds. While you're making up your minds please define those labels for the rest of us.

[Corbic]

AMERICA TO BOYCOTT NFL: A Letter from an Old Sold?: https://youtu.be/8kcFR_uQwiw

[Corbic]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20200913/abcd6714da1dbe2a4575eb74878bd275.jpg

[kingkilburn]

So you're conceding the point. Noted.

[kingkilburn]

So you're conceding the point. Noted

[Corbic]

So you're conceding the point. Noted.No, battle won and moving on. You lost that round with your inability to even make a point.

[kingkilburn]

Gotcha. Total annihilation. Run away with your tail between your legs. Change the subject.

[Corbic]

Gotcha. Total annihilation. Run away with your tail between your legs. Change the subject.Shouldn't you be out setting off fire works?

[kingkilburn]

Shh. Shh. It's ok. Don't fight it.

[zombiewolf513]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zBQ275GV5vk

probably just a few bad apples

[kingkilburn]

Five guys protesting compared to an entire sheriff's department of organized crime.

Probably not the best choice for that argument.

[zombiewolf513]

youre right, theyre just upstanding future doctors and lawyers worthy of gold caskets for their stunning and brave protesting.

[Corbic]

Shh. Shh. It's ok. Don't fight it.So you don't even get what I'm referencing.

[zombiewolf513]

https://twitter.com/BlueDogPatriot/status/1305254901820190721

Just a few more good guys protesting the lives of bad guys, amirite?

[kingkilburn]

Me getting the reference and you having a valid point are more divided than your opinions are from fact.

[Corbic]

Me getting the reference and you having a valid point are more divided than your opinions are from fact.Adults are having a conversation, please move along pigeon boy.

[kingkilburn]

Doses of reality are known to cause discomfort in those stuck in delusion. Relax and let the waves of facts flow over you.

[kingkilburn]

Your fire and vitriol is completely neutralized when you are responded to in kind. I find it hilarious.

I still expect a bullshit response but the bullshit is so limited when you can't get under anyone's skin. All you have is lies and insults and no one cares. lol