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Rayne · 08-19-2008, 04:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LongGrain

thats like saying from your point of view delaware is in asia

a wheel is a wheel, it can also be called a rim

a tire is a tire

there is no word for a wheel and tire combination...

And that is the beauty of definitions combined with an individual's point of view. Some people call a rim a wheel. While others may call a rim a "Mag."

QuickSpoolSR · 08-19-2008, 07:52 AM

Wheels: WedsSports TC-005's 18x8.5 +32 18x10 +43
Tires: 245/35 and 275/30

Its an 18 but you could run 17's and use a taller tire, and i dont think his geometry is all janked, its not riding that low.[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/WILLIA%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg[/IMG]

Devens240 · 08-19-2008, 10:38 AM

nice. those things are HUGE haha.

ericcastro · 08-19-2008, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rayne

And that is the beauty of definitions combined with an individual's point of view. Some people call a rim a wheel. While others may call a rim a "Mag."

I think your desperatly grasping at straws to win a ebattle!
A "mag" by definition is a Magnesium alloy rim.
But talk to any older guy at the track and he will tell you these are the two styles of are "MAG's".

or the classic "slotted mag".

I dont know alot of people calling there rims, "MAG's"

racepar1 · 08-19-2008, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rayne

And that is the beauty of definitions combined with an individual's point of view. Some people call a rim a wheel. While others may call a rim a "Mag."

WRONG! Like castro said, the term "mag" is referring to a wheel made from a magnesium alloy. On top of that I have never heard the term "mag" used without the word "wheel" directly after it, "mag wheel".

240cracker · 08-19-2008, 01:46 PM

thoughs white wheels r hidious

ericcastro · 08-19-2008, 01:56 PM

^they are actually forged magnesium. not white. and its wheels that ALOT of racecars from the 70's and into the 80's ran. In almost all divisions of racing.

You must be pretty young or don't follow much about motorsports history

no worries, they are pretty ugly,

but they are also 20 to 30 years old. Imagine what people will think of your rims in 30 years?? Shit, we cant stand the MoMo arrows and VX1's of 1995!!! and that was 10 years ago!! lol.

racepar1 · 08-19-2008, 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericcastro

^they are actually forged magnesium. not white. and its wheels that ALOT of racecars from the 70's and into the 80's ran. In almost all divisions of racing.

You must be pretty young or don't follow much about motorsports history

no worries, they are pretty ugly,

but they are also 20 to 30 years old. Imagine what people will think of your rims in 30 years?? Shit, we cant stand the MoMo arrows and VX1's of 1995!!! and that was 10 years ago!! lol.

I would still rock those old skool mags! They probably weigh like 10 lbs each.

ericcastro · 08-20-2008, 12:37 AM

^I ran some on one of my 510 coupes. L22 engine, 15" slotted mags.
They also look good on american muscle and old 240's, 260's, 280's.

Just got to put the age appropirate rims on the same age car

Starsky and hutch had em right?? lol

Rayne · 08-20-2008, 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ericcastro

I think your desperatly grasping at straws to win a ebattle!
A "mag" by definition is a Magnesium alloy rim.
But talk to any older guy at the track and he will tell you these are the two styles of are "MAG's".

or the classic "slotted mag".

I dont know alot of people calling there rims, "MAG's"

Think what you wish, I never intended argue with anyone. I did however simply intend to state what I was thinking when the word "Wheel" was mentioned. Unfortunately, due to point of views several people it may seem the contrary is true.

As for people who call rims/wheels a mag(s) have a conversation with individuals in South Africa.

Anyway, I never intended on posting in this thread beyond my initial post. If there were any arguments to be won regarding "Wheels" I could careless about the semantics.

On a final note, I am not angry nor should any of my posts on this site be misconstrued in that manner.

ericcastro · 08-20-2008, 04:17 AM

No worries.

I just try to correct anything that I know is wrong on this entire site.

Otherwise it gets pulled up one day by some kid. Then he gets the wrong info, but goes around quoteing it. Pretty soon theres a shit ton of bad info out there.

Of course, this thread started off weak and could have been solved with a trip to the search button.

Rims, Tires, and Offsets are some of the most covered subjects on here!! lol

Firestorm · 08-20-2008, 04:49 AM

i run 9.5" wide 17s, offset is 38. i run 255/40R17 tires.

they rub on the lip when the suspension is compressed, so i need at least a roll. camber is -1.5°

so if you really want to run 10s you will have to pull the fenders. personally i wouldn't go with any higher offset than 30. my rims have about an inch before they would hit the upright near the toe rod. (with 18" rims this shouldn't be an issue).

besides tucking 17s is pointless as many people before me already stated.

Marc240 · 08-20-2008, 01:14 PM

depends on the offset of the rim.
You sound as though this is your first time rim fitting your car.

You might have better luck going with a FN, and them running a wide tire on the back. Much more easier for YOU.

http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-whee...re-thread.html < LOOK HERE

Devens240 · 08-20-2008, 03:56 PM

haha whats up marc? yeah im selling my 240 and buying a shell to build. i just bought a fender roller too. yeah i think i might get the FN 17" by 10" with the +35. i saw a pic of them on some guys car and they cleared the coils and fender with a slight pull

Marc240 · 08-21-2008, 12:00 AM

FN's are the best with 17X10's with a +12 offset.
4 or 5 lug?

Devens240 · 08-21-2008, 09:19 AM

5 lug. but i dont think +12 will clear the fenders without alot of camber

smelly240 · 08-21-2008, 09:42 AM

with 275s u'll need to go with the +25 -=- and it'll look whack

it should fit tho.... I would run the camber and fit the +12's myself - or get overs. But on stock metal you'll prolly go with the +25 ones with under a degree of camber

QuickSpoolSR · 08-21-2008, 09:57 AM

why would a 17x10 +25 look wack, look at those 18x10 +43's up there i think they look pretty sexy to me

G_sl1de · 08-21-2008, 11:03 AM

ooooh classic mags!!

Def · 08-21-2008, 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by QuickSpoolSR

why would a 17x10 +25 look wack, look at those 18x10 +43's up there i think they look pretty sexy to me

They look wack with a 215 or something on there, but get in the 245-255 range and they fit an S13 good. An S14 has more body width back there, so the +12s wouldn't require you to get as aggressive on the body as an S13.

let5l1de · 08-22-2008, 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Devens240

Hey i was wondering if i could tuck 10" wide wheels (rear) on an s13 with less than 1 degree of camber and only a roll and pull. also would a 255 or a 275 be square? i dont want to stretch...

the answer is yes with 255.

not sure about 275's on a 10" wide

--

18x9.5 +28mm (Rays)
255/35/18 (Falken 512) here is tire specs link
-2.0 deg camber (still room for -1deg)
rolled fenders (all the way)
tein flex
car is not slammed form proper arm movement/geometry

wheel size (confirmed)

additional room of 30mm (confirmed) (leave 5mm clearance, things move around)

no pull (confirmed) just rolled

As you can see, there is plenty of room to fit the 10" wide wheels without any question. Just do your homework as far as parts mfg, specs & adjustments.

Variables in your wheel/tire assembly & clearance to body & parts.

Wheel mfg. (offsets from mfg vary)
tire size ( all 255 are not 255mm and so on. check your tire mfg specs)
Adjustable RUCA is recommended
LCA may need adjustment via eccentric bolts.
Fender Roll & Pull
Brand / type coilover

DONE.

drftwerks · 08-22-2008, 05:55 PM

what the fuck do you need a 275 for anyway?

McRussellPants · 08-22-2008, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by drftwerks

what the fuck do you need a 275 for anyway?

if you have 350+ wheel and you want your car to move.

SixSpeedSleuth · 08-22-2008, 11:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by McRussellPants

if you have 350+ wheel and you want your car to move.

+1. I would love to fit a 300 width tire, but on stock fenders that will NEVER happen. I'll just have to live with 255 Azenis until I pony up for MT ET Streets.

drftwerks · 08-22-2008, 11:39 PM

if he has the knowledge or know how to have 350 + in a 240, then he should be able to manage to fit tires he wants.

mrcahh · 01-21-2012, 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rayne

Think what you wish, I never intended argue with anyone. I did however simply intend to state what I was thinking when the word "Wheel" was mentioned. Unfortunately, due to point of views several people it may seem the contrary is true.

As for people who call rims/wheels a mag(s) have a conversation with individuals in South Africa.

Anyway, I never intended on posting in this thread beyond my initial post. If there were any arguments to be won regarding "Wheels" I could careless about the semantics.

On a final note, I am not angry nor should any of my posts on this site be misconstrued in that manner.

would love to see pics of these on a s13.

240drifter1 · 01-22-2012, 08:47 AM

Really? How old is this shit? Lol

08-21-2008, 09:42 AM	#107
smelly240 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Philaburbia Age: 43 Posts: 2,137 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	with 275s u'll need to go with the +25 -=- and it'll look whack it should fit tho.... I would run the camber and fit the +12's myself - or get overs. But on stock metal you'll prolly go with the +25 ones with under a degree of camber __________________ HREs on a S13 - check, 6262 - check, Girlfriend.... - nope

08-21-2008, 11:03 AM	#109
G_sl1de Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SL Texas Age: 37 Posts: 34 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	ooooh classic mags!! __________________

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drftwerks Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: california Posts: 2,343 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	if he has the knowledge or know how to have 350 + in a 240, then he should be able to manage to fit tires he wants. __________________ giantroboteyes.wordpress.com/

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08-19-2008, 07:52 AM	#92
QuickSpoolSR Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: des moines IA Age: 33 Posts: 756 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	Wheels: WedsSports TC-005's 18x8.5 +32 18x10 +43 Tires: 245/35 and 275/30 Its an 18 but you could run 17's and use a taller tire, and i dont think his geometry is all janked, its not riding that low.[IMG]file:///C:/DOCUME%7E1/WILLIA%7E1/LOCALS%7E1/Temp/moz-screenshot.jpg[/IMG]

08-19-2008, 10:38 AM	#93
Devens240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Washington Age: 32 Posts: 413 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	nice. those things are HUGE haha.

08-19-2008, 01:46 PM	#96
240cracker Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: OC/LA ~ 90631 Posts: 1,485 Trader Rating: (22) Rides Gallery: 240cracker Feedback Score: 22 reviews	thoughs white wheels r hidious

08-20-2008, 04:49 AM	#102
Firestorm Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Germany Age: 34 Posts: 371 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i run 9.5" wide 17s, offset is 38. i run 255/40R17 tires. they rub on the lip when the suspension is compressed, so i need at least a roll. camber is -1.5° so if you really want to run 10s you will have to pull the fenders. personally i wouldn't go with any higher offset than 30. my rims have about an inch before they would hit the upright near the toe rod. (with 18" rims this shouldn't be an issue). besides tucking 17s is pointless as many people before me already stated.

08-20-2008, 01:14 PM	#103
Marc240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 284 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	depends on the offset of the rim. You sound as though this is your first time rim fitting your car. You might have better luck going with a FN, and them running a wide tire on the back. Much more easier for YOU. http://zilvia.net/f/chat/129865-whee...re-thread.html < LOOK HERE

08-20-2008, 03:56 PM	#104
Devens240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Washington Age: 32 Posts: 413 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	haha whats up marc? yeah im selling my 240 and buying a shell to build. i just bought a fender roller too. yeah i think i might get the FN 17" by 10" with the +35. i saw a pic of them on some guys car and they cleared the coils and fender with a slight pull

08-21-2008, 12:00 AM	#105
Marc240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Washington Posts: 284 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	FN's are the best with 17X10's with a +12 offset. 4 or 5 lug?

08-21-2008, 09:19 AM	#106
Devens240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Washington Age: 32 Posts: 413 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	5 lug. but i dont think +12 will clear the fenders without alot of camber

08-21-2008, 09:57 AM	#108
QuickSpoolSR Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: des moines IA Age: 33 Posts: 756 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	why would a 17x10 +25 look wack, look at those 18x10 +43's up there i think they look pretty sexy to me

01-22-2012, 08:47 AM	#117
240drifter1 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Knoxville, TN Posts: 1,505 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Really? How old is this shit? Lol