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How are your experiences with the 240 in auto X's?

i-love-my-s14

i usually finish 3rd or 4th in my class but i have only raced twice, and i have an automatic.

HaLo

yes, they can be competitive, but the driver has to be good.

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sykikchimp

It seems most of the competitive 240's are in Street Mod. I don't think the 240 does so well in the stock class. what is it, g stock?

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Bbandit

Mine was competitive enough in STU/SSM class last semester.
All i had was just coilovers, 2way LSD, TC rods, Tension rod, 100%bone stock KA(Dynoed @ 132rwhp), 16x8 SSR+ 225/50 Dunlop FM901.
Finished 2nd in overall standing(semester championship) in that class last semester. And that was because I missed 1 Autocross out of 4 that semester.

When I was still 100%bonestock, I was able to keep my time about the same as a modded(Suspensions+I/H/E) Integra GSR (same brand tires as mine, kumho ecsta supra back then).

So yea, I would say the 240 is competitive in autocross.

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LanceS13

Yeah, it doesn't do too good in G Stock. It's either under-powered or over-weight compared to the competitive GS cars. It's ok in ST and DSP, but SM is probably it's best shot. But on the local level, a good driver can finish well in it in any class.

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Replicant_S14

Yah, I think so and I don't know of anyone with a 240 in that class.

..but on the greater topic, it's kinda hard to judge. I'm relatively new to auto-xing (this is my 3rd season). Last year I took 3rd in STS for the year in my region. That's out of a group of about 15 regular STS drivers. The competition was Civics, SE-rs, GSRs and some other unimportant oddball cars. My car was not maxed to STS rules but because of one particular driver in my region, I doubt I would have placed first even if it was.

Point is, autocrossing is really driver dependant. If I were in a region that only had 2 other drivers in my class, and they sucked. I'd win all the time but that wouldn't necessarily mean that the 240 was a great car for auto-xing. A better indicator might be results from the solo2 nationals but I searched the 2003 results and didn't find any 240sxs.

...that actually kinda sucks. One of us needs to get a 240 at nats!!!

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thelinja

I run G stock and plan to do so until I can get some extensive mods that will allow me to be competitive in other classes. I usually finish in the bottom half of the class and there's usually 7-12 drivers in G stock. The top half is usually Mini Cooper S's and the guys that drive those cars are more experienced than I am and I usually get beat anywhere from 2 seconds to .1 seconds. I'll get there eventually. However, the past few races I've placed in the top 10% in PAX. And of course, most of the top PAX times are G stock drivers.

brianglawson

mine does very well, im running smn (street mod novice)

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thx247

sm i think it has a chance, but in g i dont think it has a very good chance, even with r tires. cooper s is just to fast

HaLo

DSP it could do ok... BUT fully modded SM it your best bet...

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019

yea, sm is probably the best bet. like other have said, gs is too competitive for most 240 drivers. sts, which is what i run, isn't too bad. i usually end up somewhere in the middle of the pack. sm allows you to run with more engine mods, so that helps. altho i do have to say that if you're a really good driver, it doesn't matter what you run, haha. i know a guy who's a national driver and he got himself a 240. the first time he ever ran the car (he had gotten the car the day prior) he ran gs and got 4th out of 8. not too bad, but also consider that he beat most of the guys in sts as well in a bone stock 240, hehe.

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HaLo

True... Auto-x is all about the driver. Skills are much more important than the car or preparation level of the car. I see drivers here beat fully modded cars with stock 1990 Civic DXs...

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kcolyer27

Few friends of mine do it in their 240s' and usually come in high places. Autox you need to get the hang of it before you become good.

thelinja

what class do they race in?

mikespeed95

they can run
gs- stock
dsp/sts-light mods
sm-heavy mods

I think they can be competitive, again all comes down to the driver, but next year i have an idea and im going to try to go to nationals with it.

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AceInHole

lol... it's sooo hard to build a truly competative SM car.... it all depends on the area I guess. In addition, higher power/ better handling cars require more a LOT more skill to drive better on the edge....

Right now my car is at about 70% ready. Still need Hoosiers (possibly going 315/35/R17 all around or maybe 335 in back), a lot more weight reduction, and a lot more detailed suspension work. Not to mention about 50 more rwhp and a more reliable bottom end.

When I was running STS i faired pretty well. The only problem is that the 240 likes 245's all around, and STS limits you to 225's
GS isn't TOO bad, I just find that no one bothers to go R-compound on their stock 240.
DSP seems to be about the same boat as SM......

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brianglawson

all i can say, is if your in an s13, you will want some seats. i finally ordered an recaro yesterday, and im hoping and praying its here and we can get it installed by July 18th, stock s13 seats let me roll around way too much, i had bruises from bracing myself on doorpanels, and console...haha

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LanceS13

Holy shit dude...is that possible?!

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i2ice4m3

wow i've never heard of running such a wide tire for autox

jmauld

If this AEM EMS thing pans out, the 240 could become very competitve in DSP. At the moment, I think it's biggest limitation in DSP is the lack of power against the beemers.

I ran GS for a year and did fairly well, but the lack of front camber adjustment made me go through tires too quickly. So this year, I've been running DSP with just camber bolts and swaybars and have been consistently placing in 2nd place about 1.5-2 seconds behind a very good 1st place driver, in a bmw.

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thx247

It is possible, see his post on FA about it. Sorta looks funny but most upper cars in SM have wicked fender flares already.

stumpz

I am pretty competitive in my 240. The last autocross I did w/ my 240 I ended up getting paxed 37th out of 110ish drivers and I'm in street mod w/ an sr...but that was when I had my stock suspenion setup. I recently upgraded to the d2 coilover setup which increased everything dramatically. I am hoping to have my new clutch in by the 18th, which is the next autocross, because I blew it at the drift event thursday and missed hyperfest this weekend :-(. But yeah, I love to autocross more in my civic because it was more competitive then teh 40 back then..

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AceInHole

315 in the rear will just need a pulled fender. If I can come across enough money (i.e. hit it big in blackjack) over winter it'll most definitely be 315 in front and 335 in back, though. For now it's 315 in back and 275 in front since that fits best on the rims I currently have.

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pruto

when i was doing autocrossing two years ago a couple 240s were doing well in STS, i got push up into DSP cause i was running 8.5 wide rims.

thats what i kinda didn't like about autocross tho, i don't like that entire concept of maximizing your mods depending on the class you were in. i was running in DSP with a stock engine, that wasn't really fun. I stopped going when i found out about that no bodykit rule in street prepared.

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OptionZero

I'm gonna hit up the event in Stockton, CA this saturday probably, will be my first event. I think my mods put me in a higher category (see sig)...does anyone know where to find the rules and guidelines for each class? I can't find it on the scca website

As its my first event, and i have shitty tires on stock rims, i'll probably look pretty stupid, but it should be fun, automatic or not...i am told even with a 5spd, its all just 2nd gear anyways...

kingsol

aye sup man, you're going to track your car?! make sure to have someone tape it and then give it to justin so we can watch!!! good luck

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Wei240

well, went to my first autox at cal speedway, and boy i suck, i'm pretty sure i got last in st(x) but the 1st in class was another 240sx, 1 thing i notice is you need sticky tires which everyone else have and which i didn't have and that sucked...

Replicant_S14

The cams will put you in Street Modified I think.

I dunno how up-to-date it is (probably pretty close) but here's your Classing info

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Replicant_S14

That's great. I think I can get some wins in STX with the 240 but right now I'm struggling against a couple of ITRs. I only need 2/10ths and I'll be there. I regularly out run a couple of WRXs. They may just be sucky drivers but it's still kinda cool because all those rex guys think those cars shot straight down from jesus. It's annoying. 2nd most annoying are the mini drivers.

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