F20C in a 240?

[OrangeVirus1]

This is A Legit thread, Serious questions.
So since you guys hate the Rb20 so much, I am gonna sell it. I think a better choice would be swapping in a Honda F20C ( S2000 ) engine.
I can get one for a really good deal so I'm thinking this is my next wroute, instead of scrapping my shell. Should be fun.
It's lightweight and makes good power for being NA. Probably perfect for driftyo.


Few questions.
Should I keep it NA or boost it? 4 psi?
How much power can the stock tranny take on it?
Should I use the stock tranny or what?

Does anyone make motor mounts?

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[zooopreme]

This is A Legit thread, Serious questions.
So since you guys hate the Rb20 so much, I am gonna sell it. I think a better choice would be swapping in a Honda F20C ( S2000 ) engine.
I can get one for a really good deal so I'm thinking this is my next wroute, instead of scrapping my shell. Should be fun.
It's lightweight and makes good power for being NA. Probably perfect for driftyo.


Few questions.
Should I keep it NA or boost it? 4 psi?
How much power can the stock tranny take on it?
Should I use the stock tranny or what?

Does anyone make motor mounts?


First of all, nobody really gives a shit if you have a RB20 or not. You're just so quick to defend it like it's god's greatest motor compared to a proven SR.

Second, the fact that you allow others to dictate your build is sad. Grow a fucking spine and build a car for yourself, not for other men. Real suspect.

Third, don't build a car just to be "different", chances are somebody's doing it better than you.

Anyway, I feel bad for you, I truly do. So I've decided to use the search function and search for the build thread which you've should've done yourself.

Found the thread: http://zilvia.net/f/chat/326640-project-s13k-rebuild.html not a F20 but I figured it'd give you an idea.

[OrangeVirus1]

First of all, nobody really gives a shit if you have a RB20 or not. You're just so quick to defend it like it's god's greatest motor compared to a proven SR.

Second, the fact that you allow others to dictate your build is sad. Grow a fucking spine and build a car for yourself, not for other men. Real suspect.

Third, don't build a car just to be "different", chances are somebody's doing it better than you.

Anyway, I feel bad for you, I truly do. So I've decided to use the search function and search for the build thread which you've should've done yourself.

Every human has a spine. We evolved spines Millions of years ago from our ancestral lines. So the whole "grow a spine" throw it out the window.

Nobody has ever dictated what I build.

But I think if I did a F20C, it would be a interesting fun new build.

I don't build cars to be different. I don't build cars. chances are somebody is doing it better than all of us.

[Tom N]

If you like the RB20 then use it. Why do you care what strangers on aboard think? Are you a 12 year old girl or something.
If you want a swap that takes fabricating but makes a ton of power for cheap then do a 4g63 not a F20C.
And 4psi??? Seriously?

[OrangeVirus1]

If you like the RB20 then use it. Why do you care what strangers on aboard think? Are you a 12 year old girl or something.
If you want a swap that takes fabricating but makes a ton of power for cheap then do a 4g63 not a F20C.
And 4psi??? Seriously?

Because my Rb20 blew up.

4 psi supercharger?

[zooopreme]

Holy fuck, shut up. You're such an annoying douchebag that seriously needs to get off the computer and take in some air from the outside world.

"Every human has a spine." you don't say, Sherlock! You act like a little bitch and defend yourself like we all log in just to flame you. You put a target on your back and I was truly hoping you had finally quit Zilvia. Your very existence on this forum has left such a sour imprint on how people treat you and no matter how nice somebody can be to you, you still manage to act like a pompous prick.

Anyway, I edited my post and I left you a link. Not a 20C but it should give you a general idea.

[Tom N]

Supercharges on 4 cylinder cars are stupid.

[OrangeVirus1]

Supercharges on 4 cylinder cars are stupid.

Why lol A good small supercharger can be pretty nice on a 4 cylinder.

and thank you Zooprime I'll check your link.

[Tom N]

Because it steals hp to make hp and a 4 cylinder doesn't make enough power on its own to be running a s/c. Turbo is far more efficient. Don't make things more difficult than they have to be.

[OrangeVirus1]

Because it steals hp to make hp and a 4 cylinder doesn't make enough power on its own to be running a s/c. Turbo is far more efficient. Don't make things more difficult than they have to be.

Maybe a Roots style blower yeah, but what about a paxton or similar, one of those belt driven turbos basically.

How does a 4Cyl not make enough power when their are many 4cyl's that are supercharged from the factory with eatons!

[Tom N]

So put a s/c on it. Have fun with that.

[OrangeVirus1]

So put a s/c on it. Have fun with that.

I was thinking Nitrous is just easier to do.

the F20C can't handle boost so probably a 50 shot dry

[h2v7]

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[AdamR]

I was thinking Nitrous is just easier to do.

the F20C can't handle boost so probably a 50 shot dry

Since when?
I know two people personally that have gone over 500whp with stock internals.

[OrangeVirus1]

Since when?
I know two people personally that have gone over 500whp with stock internals.

even stock pistons?

[stacksondeck]

Yea. Maybe you should watch RealStreetPerformances vids. They pushed 37 psi on an unopened f20 made 700hp and ran nines. Cam only internally. Factory high compression pistons. Precision 6776 I believe.

[stacksondeck]

No cuz-Tim pistons were used. Lol

[OrangeVirus1]

No cuz-Tim pistons were used. Lol

I'm surprised you had anything that could be of use for this thread. thanks.

I know lol. Just like Unopened B16's and B18's that run 4-600+

but the difference is that those engines are not ran on pump gas. they use c12, C16, etc.

But I know what honda engines are capable of :)

Also I'm not doing this swap. Way too much of a pain in the ass, and I hate I don't like the F20 engine ( personal preference don't start going apeshit )

[h2v7]

orange your on one cuddie

[OrangeVirus1]

orange your on one cuddie

Ok bro, speak american to me next time thanks

[h2v7]

hey this is a serious thread im going to swap a f20 in my car

o wait i hate the f20 ill never do this swap


you like attention egh?

[stacksondeck]

Haha. What if there is really something wrong with Virus... We're all going to hell.

I personally just think you're bipolar. And of course retarded.

[OrangeVirus1]

Haha. What if there is really something wrong with Virus... We're all going to hell.

I personally just think you're bipolar. And of course retarded.

I was diagnosed psychophrenic in the past but cured through my church. but that's nobodies business anyway.

[yetijeff]

I'm really surprised nobody has given u shit for the rb20 blowin up lol. Anyways if u wanna be different, do a 4g63t?!?!?! I saw a build thread where someone attempted it but never finished... Looked dope

[OrangeVirus1]

I'm really surprised nobody has given u shit for the rb20 blowin up lol. Anyways if u wanna be different, do a 4g63t?!?!?! I saw a build thread where someone attempted it but never finished... Looked dope

that's because my RB20 never actually blew up. unless you count a blown head gasket as blowing up

and the 4G63 is too badass to drop into a 240.

[yzrider450f]

I'm stupid



get out.


msg

[hotlavaflow]

and the 4G63 is too badass to drop into a 240.

You should be banned just for that

[OrangeVirus1]

You should be banned just for that

let me take a wild guess, you think the SR20 is better than the 4G63.. lmfao

[yetijeff]

Because my Rb20 blew up.

4 psi supercharger?

U said it was blown up. That's why I thought it was blown up...

[SkipGsr]

I was thinking Nitrous is just easier to do.

the F20C can't handle boost so probably a 50 shot dry

the f20c can handle boost and that it does very well. all forged internals in the f20 with head studs and a good head gasket, have been known to hold 15-20psi sometimes more.

[TheRealSy90]

This thread made me stupid. WHATTHEFUCK.

[fliprayzin240sx]

Its a blown HG, get a fresh $40 OEM gasket from the dealer, $120 ARP head studs and be done with it. As much as some people have given you shit for your RB20 nut swinging ways, its not an end all issue.

[OrangeVirus1]

Its a blown HG, get a fresh $40 OEM gasket from the dealer, $120 ARP head studs and be done with it. As much as some people have given you shit for your RB20 nut swinging ways, its not an end all issue.

Done and done. Replaced with a Cometic 1.3mm and ARP studs.

[hobbs]

4G63, Big16G and a R154, the swap is actually pretty simple from what I have heard. Also fuck F series motors, K or bust.

If you really want a cool swap, punch out a S13 block to 2.3-2.4L run a VE head and ITBs, FWD guys are making 315+whp on pump.

[OrangeVirus1]

4G63, Big16G and a R154, the swap is actually pretty simple from what I have heard. Also fuck F series motors, K or bust.

If you really want a cool swap, punch out a S13 block to 2.3-2.4L run a VE head and ITBs, FWD guys are making 315+whp on pump.

Punch out a S13 block to 2.3 / 2.4 L

you mean the KA? as in 2.4L stock? lol?


and If was going to swap a 4g63 why would I keep a baby ass 16G lol..

[hobbs]

Punch out a S13 block to 2.3 / 2.4 L

you mean the KA? as in 2.4L stock? lol?


and If was going to swap a 4g63 why would I keep a baby ass 16G lol..

No, go with a 92x92 setup on a SR with a VE head, would give you a SR24VE.

Sticking with a big 16G because you don't need any more power than 400whp on a S13.

[OrangeVirus1]

No, go with a 92x92 setup on a SR with a VE head, would give you a SR24VE.

Sticking with a big 16G because you don't need any more power than 400whp on a S13.

ahh gross I'd never buy a SR, sorry. although the sound of having a square engine would be nice.

When you can get 400whp out of a 16g, you let me know they are already falling on their face before 350-crank. Thats 20g territory.

I know this because I had one on my GSX and could only get 330whp max out of it. and it was MAX, I unplugged my wastegate line, and boost was still dropping to 24psi by 6500 rpm.

[RalliartRsX]

When you can get 400whp out of a 16g, you let me know they are already falling on their face before 350-crank. Thats 20g territory.

I know this because I had one on my GSX and could only get 330whp max out of it. and it was MAX, I unplugged my wastegate line, and boost was still dropping to 24psi by 6500 rpm.

Just because you could not personally extract over 330WHP out of a 16, does NOT meant it isn't possible

Stock EVO IX 16G, slightly ported 522WHP (http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-dyno-tuning-results/402267-522-whp-stock-ix-turbo.html)

I've seen how people have beaten up on you over the past few days and after reading just a few of your posts I have come to the conclusion that...........


You are a tool...............

Pump Gas EVO 8 turbo unported has made 400WHP as well. Just search

ALso, for the people that HATE the F20C. F20C on STOCK BLOCK with a 6262 Make 600 reliable WHP on many occasions!

[OrangeVirus1]

Just because you could not personally extract over 330WHP out of a 16, does NOT meant it isn't possible

Stock EVO IX 16G, slightly ported 522WHP (http://forums.evolutionm.net/evo-dyno-tuning-results/402267-522-whp-stock-ix-turbo.html)

I've seen how people have beaten up on you over the past few days and after reading just a few of your posts I have come to the conclusion that...........


You area tool...............

Pump Gas EVO 8 turbo unported has made as well. Just search

ALso, for the people that HATE the F20C. F20C on STOCK BLOCK with a 6262 Make 600 reliable WHP on many occasions!

I wasn't running a Evo 9 turbo jack fuck. I was running the old IHI evo 3 16G .. which supports like 350 max jack fuck.

Guess what else jack fuck, he had 10:1 compression, guess what that does jack fuck, boosts your horse power jack fuck

you got to be fucking kidding me. comparing a Evo 9 engine with 10:1 compression and a evo 9 16G to a 4g63 with 7.8:1 compression and a evo 3 16G

you are a fucking tool. He would not have made nearly as much power without that 10:1 compression jack fuck.

Plus he was running E98 so his timing was probably sky fucking high jack fuck.

So suck my fucking dick bitch. come at me bro, that engine isn't even a engine you fucking retard.

[Tom N]

I made 430 awhp with a old school EVO 3 16g in a Galant VR4 with a the old 6 bolt motor.
This was many years ago. I'm sure people have done even better than that over the years.
Some times it's best to just not talk.

[OrangeVirus1]

I made 430 awhp with a old school EVO 3 16g in a Galant VR4 with a the old 6 bolt motor.
This was many years ago. I'm sure people have done even better than that over the years.
Some times it's best to just not talk.

sure you did. not on pump gas, with a incorrect correction factor, and a high reading dyno. yes you did.

[Tom N]

sure you did. not on pump gas

Don't give a shit if you believe me. It was pump gas with alcohol injection. Car went low 11's. My old galant is not a mystery in the dsm world. I'm not the only one to hit 400 hp in a Evo 3 16g. I think I was the first though. I know curt brown did it. He actually made more than me but he's curt brown. I also know Mike from SBR did it. Friend of mine with the fastest stock turbo dsm did it also. It can be done if you know what your doing.

[OrangeVirus1]

Don't give a shit if you believe me. My old galant is not a mystery in the dsm world. I'm not the only one to hit 400 hp in a Evo 3 16g. I think I was the first though. I know curt brown did it. He actually made more than me but he's curt brown. I also know Mike from SBR did it. Friend of mine with the fastest stock turbo dsm did it also. It can be done if you know what your doing.

ON PUMP GAS???

you are saying a 16G is comparable to a GT30R or 20G?

be realistic, they flow 38lb/min. unless you are running race gas or Ethanol with timing through the damn roof you will never see those numbers.

[Tom N]

You don't want to debate DSM's with me. I have been building and racing them since the mid 90's. I have actual accomplishments off the Internet.

[Tom N]

ON PUMP GAS???

you are saying a 16G is comparable to a GT30R or 20G?

be realistic, they flow 38lb/min. unless you are running race gas or Ethanol with timing through the damn roof you will never see those numbers.

All I said was 400+ can be made with a 16g. Don't put words in my mouth I didn't say.

[CleanAndLegit]

wow

wtf is this?

[OrangeVirus1]

lol I've owned and built quite a few dsm's myself, and I can say that on pump gas you will not get 430awhp out of a 16g. unless it's a high reading dyno.

and when I made my original statement, I meant on pump gas.

you could probably make a damn T25 get you 400whp with enough timing and throwing it way past fail rate

[Tom N]

A T25 will not get to 400hp on VP Import.
The 16g will get there on pump gas with alcohol injection.
You don't know shit about DSM's if you don't know this. Do you even know who Curt Brown is or Joe Bucci? Ever been to the shoot out?

[OrangeVirus1]

A T25 will not get to 400hp on VP Import.
The 16g will get there on pump gas with alcohol injection.
You don't know shit about DSM's if you don't know this. Do you even know who Curt Brown is or Joe Bucci? Ever been to the shoot out?

pump gas with alcohol injection lol.

I was talking just pump gas.

No I don't know who those people are, I'm not so much of a racing, teams, people fanatic.

i just like cars.

only thing that I can vaguely remember is something about I "think" somebody shepard having a DSM that ran like 6's

or maybe it was Matt somebody or maybe it was brian crower.. who the fuck knows. not me.

i don't care about that stuff.

[dudermagee]

I wasn't running a Evo 9 turbo jack fuck. I was running the old IHI evo 3 16G .. which supports like 350 max jack fuck.

Guess what else jack fuck, he had 10:1 compression, guess what that does jack fuck, boosts your horse power jack fuck

you got to be fucking kidding me. comparing a Evo 9 engine with 10:1 compression and a evo 9 16G to a 4g63 with 7.8:1 compression and a evo 3 16G

you are a fucking tool. He would not have made nearly as much power without that 10:1 compression jack fuck.

Plus he was running E98 so his timing was probably sky fucking high jack fuck.

So suck my fucking dick bitch. come at me bro, that engine isn't even a engine you fucking retard.


enjoy your time out

[OrangeVirus1]

enjoy your time out

Will do the doodoo.

[Tom N]

pump gas with alcohol injection lol.

I was talking just pump gas.

No I don't know who those people are, I'm not so much of a racing, teams, people fanatic.

i just like cars.

only thing that I can vaguely remember is something about I "think" somebody shepard having a DSM that ran like 6's

or maybe it was Matt somebody or maybe it was brian crower.. who the fuck knows. not me.

i don't care about that stuff.

You simply said the 16g falls on its face at 350 crank hp. Which is dead wrong.
If all YOU could get was 330 with no vacuum to the waste gate that that's your problem. Not those who know what they are doing. Stop being a troll.

[stacksondeck]

So suck my fucking dick bitch.

Quoted for the banhammer. Thanks virus. Now your ass is gone.

We can't even give you a chance without you blowing up. You are a pshyco. (Remember you saying you church healed your pshycophrenic ailment?) yea right. You are a complete loser, period.

[stacksondeck]

enjoy your time out

I sent a mod this way. Later Virus :)

[stacksondeck]

Hahahaha man you need to get laid. By a female...

[fliprayzin240sx]

I sent a mod this way. Later Virus :)

In his defense...he hasnt said anything bannable or pinkable for that matter, even tho he can be obnoxious as fuck at times.

You guys let him get to you too much. All you gotta do is this: Click on his username to go to his profile, click on "user list" under his name and add him to your ignore list. You'll never have to worry about him again.

[Phlip]

I am considering this conversation over and topic closed.