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Flicktitty
05-11-2011, 12:50 PM
I started putting this together to help some people, now i figure i will release it to EVERYONE. i know it's not complete, but there is a lot of good information here. and i know there is other ways to do this swap, but this is what worked for me. I would appreciate ANY and ALL feedback on this. Also to you fellow JZ swappers if you have any helpful hints/tips/tricks or other ideas please post them and i can incorporate them into the original post.
Also – If you feel I should add more information to this please feel free to PM me on here, or Email me at
[email protected] Thanks – Nick
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So i decided i would put this together to help current and future 2JZGTE swapping 240sx people out at least a little bit. There already is a lot of information on doing this swap, but it is spread all across the Internet, so i thought i would put together a thread where most if not all the information is here at your finger tips. Here you will find parts, pictures and random information that i think could be helpful.
Section 1: Getting to know the 2JZ-GTE
First, i urge you to take a look at the Toyota JZ Engine Wikipedia page to familiarize yourself with the 2JZ-GTE. View the wikipedia page here: Toyota JZ engine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_JZ_engine)
Now the question is what 2JZ-GTE should i put in my car you ask? Well the choice for 95% of us is the JDM 2JZ-GTE, as it is much more accessible and cheaper than finding a 2JZ out of a crashed MKIV Toyota Supra. What is the difference you ask? well look no further.
JDM Vs USDM 2JZGTE[/FONT][/COLOR]
- Different turbochargers [/FONT][/COLOR]
(stainless steel for USDM models CT12A, ceramic for JDM models CT20)
- Camshafts
- Larger injectors (550 cc/min slow impedance, requires resistor pack for USDM model, 440 cc/min high impedance for JDM models )
- The USDM 2JZ has a EGR where as the JDM one does not. (JDM head can be drilled out and is already tapped for bolts!)
- The USDM 2JZ runs off afm/maf + map, where as the JDM one is map based, no afm
- The USDM Water pump with back half need to replace the JDM water pump and housing.
Section 2: What you are going to need
You will need alot of things to get a 2JZGTE in and running in a 240sx, below you will find a complete list of what you will need to get your car on the road.
- 2JZGTE pullout (Motor/trans/wiring/accessories) *CheckSection 3 for more information*
- Custom engine swap kit mounts. *Check Section 4 for swap kit information*
- Wiring kit (weather you pay for it or do it on your own) *Check Section 5 for more information*
- OEM Toyota supra parts, included is a water pump (if you are using a JDM 2JZ as the water pump is different and has extra port for coolant that will not work.), thermostat, it would be a good time to change the timing belt and the serpentine belt, if you have a few extra bucks not a bad idea to get a new oil pump. Wouldn’t be a bad idea to replace the belt tensioners either (timing and serpentine)
JDM Water pump that won't work:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/jdm_water_pump.jpg
USDM Waterpump that WILL work:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/2JZWaterPump.jpg
*As you can see the JDM water pump has a hydro setup that will not work with your typical setup*
- Intercooler. You could use a factory side mount intercooler or upgrade to a front mount If you're planning on making much over 350whp go with a Front mount intercooler. I used a Godspeed front mount intercooler fitted for a Nissan 240sx S13. and then bought CXRacing intercooler piping for a JZA80 (MKIV) Supra and make it work, and it works very well for both single turbo and twin turbo applications. CX Racing now offers various intercooler setups for both Single and stock twin turbo 2JZ swapped S-Chassis. So that is a good option to look into.
]- Downpipe. This depends greatly on what you do. if you go with a single turbo, most off the shelf down pipes will work (I used the CXRacing 3” V-band downpipe off ebay).This worked pretty well with my Treadstone cast manifold, it may not work for your exhaust manifold setup. CX Racing has now offered Various 2JZ swapped S-Chassis turbo kits and downpipe / exhaust manifold setups so that can be used as well, Other wise you'll be forced to go with a custom setup.
(Pic of said CXRacing downpipe with a Treadstone cast manifold)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/DP-2JZGE-3_VCLM-300-b.jpg
If you are using the JDM factory twin turbos you will need to source a jdm downpipe which used to be hard to find, but you can find them on ebay now. Just search “JZA80 front pipe, 1st pipe or decat. and it will show up. here is a picture of what you will need.
(Pic of said jdm downpipe)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/JDM2JZGTEdownpipe.jpg
If you are using the USDM Twin turbos you can use pretty much any off the shelf JZA80 (MKIV) downpipe. i used the Tanabe with great fitment.The supraforums guy's all say the best off the shelf downpipe for a factory USDM twinturbo's is the RMM downpipe, which has since been discontinued so you will have to find one used.
(Pick of said RMM downpipe)
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/DSC00733_small.jpg
I Suggest getting some heat wrap and wrap your down pipe for the added piece of mind do to the extreme under hood temps the 2JZ creates in a 240sx Or you could have them heatcoated depending on your budget.
- Exhaust. This is where you can have some fun, you can use ANY off the shelf Nissan S-chassis exhaust you so choose to use, but you will need to either take a trip to an exhaust shop, or make your own cross over pipe from the downpipe to the factory cat-back exhaust. CX Racing has since come out yet again with a JZ S-Chassis swap downpipe/midpipe/exhaust setup. So for those of you who are relying on the off the shelf parts, That will most likely be your best bet.
- Fuel pump. the “easiest” option for most people is to go with a single Walbro 255 fuel pumps, you can find them all day long well under $100. You could go with a more custom setup using a factory Toyota supra twin turbo Denso pump or a Bosch pump. here is some good information on fuel pumps. You could even go with a large external or a custom internal setup, all depends on your needs and your budget.
http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51201 (http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51201)
- Radiator. I have seen some pictures of people using the factory 240sx radiators with a 2JZ swap, and i have NO IDEA how or IF they are keeping them cool. I ran a CXRacing aluminum radiator for a year and had a ton of cooling issues. so i upgraded to a Koyo Aluminum radiator and a custom oil cooler setup since then the car has ran A LOT cooler, so invest in a QUALITY radiator and i would look into doing a oil cooler as well (More oil cooler info in the Section 6 Bolt on and modification section You can either use a Ka24de radiator, and cut a few inches off of the upper water neck on your 2JZ and get a custom radiator hose from Napa or your local parts store. For the lower radiator hose you can use a factory Supra Twin Turbo lower radiator. Or you can use a SR20DET radiator, and you can use factory upper and lower Supra TT radiator hoses. but the upper will be a little shorter. you can also modify your upper radiator outlet and move it over a few inches to use a factory upper hose. Such as what Tech2 offers with there radiator. Again I strongly recommend a large QUALITY radiator.
- Electric fans - get the slimmest dual 12” fans you can find, cause fitment is crucial. i have ran “ebay style” dual 12” fans on a switch and they seem to have worked fine decent I then made the switch to a higher end radiator fan/shroud combo from Flex-A-lite in the 410/420 Series fans and those are easily one of the best fan setups you can get for your JZ swapped S-Chassis.
- Dakota Digital stuff. You will need a speedo and tach interface to allow you to use your factory 240sx gauges with your new 2JZ-GTE. You will also need a magnetic pick up coil to get your rpm off your R154 or V160 (if you run a automatic you do no need this. The other option is go go with a custom gauge setup for your speedometer and Tachometer. Speedometer & Tachometer Interfaces (http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.cfm/page/ptype=results/Category_ID=287/home_id=59/mode=cat/cat287.htm)
Here is my custom gauge setup using a Speedhut speedometer and tachometer (3 3/8”) while using 2 AEM 52mm gauges.
http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o624/axisracingwi/cars/IMG_3799_zps113ded5c.jpg
- Pulley kit. You will need a new Water pump pulley when you make the switch to the USDM water pump you can either get a OEM Toyota one or you can get a Greddy pulley kit which usually runs $300 + or you can get a eBay aluminum pulley kit which can be had for right around $100. Drift Motion also makes a pulley kit as does Power House Racing. Non Stop Tuning now also offers a variety of colors for pulleys as well.
- Heater hoses. Well let me start off by saying MOST of the off the shelf kits make having heat on a factory twin turbo 2JZ-GTE S13 near impossible as one of the heater core fittings on the firewall pretty much touches the rear turbo housing. so during the time i ran the factory USDM twin turbos i had no heat, which sucks. Once i went single turbo i was able to get heat, so i just got some heater hose from Napa and hooked it up, pretty straight forward. i would suggest getting some self adhesive heat wrap for the heater hoses for how close it is to the turbo/downpipe. Here is a picture of how the heater hoses are routed.
http://i1151.photobucket.com/albums/o624/axisracingwi/cars/IMG_1024_zps2719a891.jpg
- Sway bar spacers or different front sway bar. do to the fitment of the 2JZ oil pan the factory sway bar will NOT fit. you can either get a spacer made to lower the sway bar the 1 ½” - 2” you need. or you can get a SIKKY front sway bar. they make a sway bar to clear LSX swapped 240sx’s and these WILL clear your 2JZ. I've also heard that the Whiteline RB swap front sway bar will clear but I cannot confirm this.
- Gauges. One of thee most important things you can get when doing a swap. i recommend getting the following gauges. Water temp gauge -VERY important as 2JZ 240sx’s run very hot. And you would not want to trust the factory “ON/OFF” style temp gauge of the 240sx. Other gauges include Oil temperature and Oil pressure is also high on that list. if you want to do a nice way of doing the oil pressure you can use the IS300 bolt trick, found here (http://www.mkiv.com/techarticles/oil_sensor_mod/index.html) (http://about%3Cb%3E%3C/b%3E:blank) To do a oil temp you could get a sandwhich adapter with a port for a gauge. the adapter size you will need for a 2JZ is (3/4 unf -16) You should obviously also get a boost gauge, as well as it would be smart to get a Wideband o2 If you plan on running a modified 2JZ-GTE as the Air / fuels are very important.
- Battery relocation and battery. face it your Ka battery wont keep up with the 2JZ invest in a little bigger one, you will need to relocate your battery to the trunk, unless you try and use one of the ½ sized batteries that are on the market, Though i'm not sure most ½ size batteries will keep up with the big fans/fuel pumps/etc.
- Fuel line. You will need to get a few feet of fuel line, as the KA24/SR/RB/etc all have the fuel rail on the right side, and the 2JZ is on the left you will need to make your lines go to the other side of the engine bay, not a big deal, here is one way you can do it. Also as a side note, i happened to use a Z32 Fuel filter as well worked fine. The other way you could do it is run AN style lines and fittings from the fuel pump top-hat to the fuel rail its self. http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/October004.jpg
- Power steering lines I used the factory 240sx hi pressure line (it was leaking when it was a KA24DE) Then i replaced it with a Stainless steel ISIS power steering line. I ran the ISIS line for about a year and a half and it started to leak, so I removed it and ISIS sent me another one, Though I never installed it I decided to make my own using higher quality fittings and lines (XRP) If you are interested in a XRP kit feel free to contact me.
ISIS Power Steering Line.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/august10022.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/august10021.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/august10016.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/august10015.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/august10014.jpg
Custom made XRP Power Steering Line.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/IMG_1072.jpg
Don’t forget little things, Coolant (Toyota recommends using TOYOTA RED coolant USE IT!) I noticed the car ran much cooler and more consistent with the Toyota Red coolant. ATF fluid for your power steering (Toyota recommends using ATF for your power steering pump) Oil, Well use synthetic pretty much use what ever you have a preference with.
Section 3: Where to find your 2JZ-GTE[/U][/B]
There are many online places that claim they can get you 2JZGTE’s some i have seen have been junk, i got mine from FNFmotors.ca in Canada and it came i pretty good shape, there was NO IGNITOR, so i had to source one, not all places include one. also they sent me a 2JZGE (non turbo ecu) so be sure to check what you get. Though FNF motors has changed names so I'm not sure how well they work anymore. I would encourage alot of you guy’s to check out Robert @ Zerolift autofab as he has great prices and everything i have heard is top notch. plus he is in the United states where most places are in Canada, Though I have heard Zerolift Is no longer dealing with JDM Engines so you may want to check with JDM Engine World or the other sponsors here on Zilvia.net. if you have gotten a SR20/RB/B16/Etc swaps in the past, check out where you got your previous motor they should be able to source you one. You may also want to check Ebay.com once in a while you can find a complete USDM motor/trans/etc. Other wise it's another location to find a JDM 2JZ-GTE.
Also keep an eye out on ClubLexus.com as well as Supraforums.com for people who are parting out cars and what. Don’t forget you can still get a 2JZGTE straight from Toyota still to this day if your pockets are deep enough.
DO NOT FORGET, YOU NEED A FRONT SUMPED JZ to fit PROPERLY into a 240sx.
Section 4: Swap kits
There are a few companies out there that offer swap kits and they range anywhere from just $300 all the way up to $1,500. here are a few of the mount kits.
Who: Tech2 Motorsports
Cost: $1,550 and a $200.00 Core charge for your stock cross member.
Whats included: Modified stock cross member, Transmission mount, Drive shaft for R154, shifter extension, and the Tech2 2JZ swap DVD.]I personally run this kit, so i will go a little more in depth with this kit. The kit uses your factory 240sx cross member and basically cut part of it off, and welds on a flat piece that allows you to use the factory Toyota Aristo (JDM 2JZGTE) mounts. The driveshaft seems to be a high quality piece as well, although i did have some errors with it at first which made me send it back to get redone then sent back to me and i still needed to buy an extra piece (this was to run the A340e automatic)[/FONT][/COLOR]
Good:
- Fitment works, and no real guessing games as some of the hard stuff has been done for you- Stock OE look, which is nice.
- Price, it is way more expensive then it should be. for someone to just modify your stock cross member which looks like it doesn't take more then an hour, and it just uses stock Aristo 2JZGTE mounts.
- Modifies your stock cross member, which as far as i knows will not allow you to compete in some drifting and road racing organizations so be sure to check your rule book!
Here is a pic when i got mine.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/l_2a8eddfd86be439f92300fc1b7fef5-1.jpg
You can also buy Aristo/Soarer/SC/etc motor mounts and modify your crossmember to look like the TECH2 Kit.
[/FONT][/COLOR][/FONT][/COLOR]This is what a modified crossmember will look like.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/ls.jpg
just for referance too, when i got the Tech2 kit this is how it came.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/l-1.jpg
note the crossmemeber modification vs. the stock crossmember below.
http://nkdrift.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/xmember.jpg?w=500&h=296
Who: Zerolift
Cost: $Varies
Whats included: Custom engine mounts that use stock cross member and a custom transmission mount.
Zerolift bought the rights to the old “ruckus racing” motor mounts. so they are the same mounts just under a new name. I’ve had no first had experience with them so i can’t say anything good or bad, hopefully someone will chime in.
picture from their site:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/kitwonlymounts.jpg
Freed Engineering is a GREAT choice and has been around for a few years I haven't heard anything bad from them.
www.freedengineering.com (http://www.freedengineering.com/)
The engine as low and far back as possible, even fits with the GE intake manifold (only tested in the S14 so far). Designed, cut and welded here in our shop.
http://www.freedengineering.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/2JZ240SX-600x533.jpg
- There is also a few “ebay” swap kits that range from $160 - $200. they are your typical metal mount and rubber bushing design. not much information availible.[/FONT]
The other great option is the GET NUTS Fabrication mount kit pricing seems to be well in line with the other companies mounts.
http://aceupmotorsports.com/product_images/r/154/gnlenginebracket1__70659_zoom.jpg
Section 5: Wiring[/B]
Arguably one of thee hardest things to concur while doing a 2JZ/1JZ in a 240sx. And still to this day hard facts and solid diagrams and layouts are pretty much non existent....unless you are willing to pay for that information.
[COLOR=#000000][FONT=Arial]There are pretty much two way’s you can wire up your 2JZ/1JZ 240sx. The first one, and the most simple is PAY someone else to do it for you.That is what i did and let me tell you something it was the best choice for me, as i have little to no wiring skills. I sent my harness out to Tech2 back in 2008 Tech2 has since stopped doing wiring harness work. Chase Bays has jumped on the JZ/S-Chassis wiring service as of late, but there has been alot of hit and miss on what kind of quality there is. Wiring Specialties seems to be the new "go to" place for off the shelf as well as custom wiring harness conversions. I am currently having them build me an all new harness that should work and look way better than what i had before. There are other members of Various forums who claim they can do it for a small fee as well. One of them Dave “Z U L8R” On Zilvia.net says he will do them for a fee, Justin Collins (Q-FAB out of South Carolina) has done JZ wiring for the S-Chassis so you can contact him. There is also Tweaked Performance AKA "Dr Tweak" Who have made harness for years for various JZ swapped cars. Expect to pay anywhere from $700 on up to $1500 to get your wiring done depending on who and what you need done to the harness. Like stated i used www.WiringSpecialties.com and will continue to go back to them for any and all of my wiring needs, Matt, Yuri and Chris have gone above and beyond to help me out.
The Second option is learn how to do it yourself, download the Aristo/Supra wiring schematics and the 240sx of your ownership and get to work, good luck. As i have never done this i do not have much information on this current stage, so i will try and update this with any and all wiring information i find from this point on.
some of my .02 on the wiring subject: I've read many threads with people banging there head against the wall and i have gotten countless pm's and emails and messages though youtube,zilvia,nico,supraforums,etc. about how the wiring was done and how people can't get pthere car to start or stay running. I know of a few people who "did the wiring them selves to save money" and they couldn't figure it out, so they took the car to shops to have them do it, where they had to pay labor rate AND for all the new parts that a shop will say is "bad" and should be replaced, or have just decided after spending countless hours trying to do it themselves that they should send it out to a professional. Really makes the $800-1500 price for a harness service seem like a good value.
UPDATE (7/20/11) 2JZ-GE Wiring information: http://zilvia.net/f/engine-tech/390883-2jz-wiring.html
Section 6: Bolt on’s and modifications
This is where the fun stuff happens. this is all about doing what you want. You could go mild to WILD.
keep in mind these cars run warm so i would strongly recommend a oil cooler. if you don’t want to purchase an off the shelf one or custom make one yourself feel free to email me [
[email protected]], cause i am offering a full oil cooler setup for a 2JZ-S1 using a high quality cooler quality lines as well as fittings and sandwich adapter. You can however order a Greddy/Trust/HKS kit but those are about $500+
h815 240sx
05-11-2011, 01:09 PM
Fantastic information!
Also another wiring option, is to hit up Jeff of Jordan Innovations, he always does really good work and quoted me at a great price for a 1jz into s13.
Flicktitty
05-11-2011, 01:16 PM
Fantastic information!
Also another wiring option, is to hit up Jeff of Jordan Innovations, he always does really good work and quoted me at a great price for a 1jz into s13.
Good stuff, i know he does a ton of LSX stuff, i didn't realize he was doing JZ swap wiring as well i'll see if he chimes in. thanks.
h815 240sx
05-13-2011, 11:36 AM
Do you have any pictures of the exhaust crossover for using a aftermarket exhaust instead of making a custom one as seen below?
http://csgarage.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/dsc02981.jpg
http://csgarage.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/dsc02973.jpg
Also do you have any info on the new power steering lines you need to run? or can you use stainless sr/ka high or low?
Flicktitty
05-13-2011, 11:53 AM
i will have to get some pics of the exhaust once it is back on the car, or maybe i can take the picture of the exhaust off the car tonight. I just had a fabrication shop make a 3" pipe from the Megan OE Type II catback to the CXracing 3" downpipe.
Power steering lines - I used the factory 240sx hi pressure line (it was leaking when it was a KA24DE) Then i replaced it with a Stainless steel ISIS power steering line. I plan on swapping this out again later this year in favor of a custom power steering line i will be making with all black lines and fittings and i will then market it to the 2JZ-S-Chassis community. Though the ISIS line does work awesome.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/august10022.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/august10021.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/august10016.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/august10015.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/august10014.jpg
Taylor Durdan at durdan prefab,does excellent harnesses.He did my sr harness and it is flawless.He also took the time relocate the ignitor in to the cabin of the vehicle.Very reasonable pricing and said he can swap any motor into a 240sx.Hit him up,great guy and easy to talk to.
camaro379ss
05-16-2011, 05:35 PM
what a wealth of info!
Nismo JLo
05-23-2011, 10:07 AM
abundant amount of info. GREAT WRITE UP BROTHA!
mwilloughby87
05-23-2011, 10:37 AM
awesome information man. Wish this much would have been readily available when I started doing my swap a while back.
mwilloughby87
05-23-2011, 10:41 AM
Another bit of useful information that alot of GTE guys will do, is that they will switch to the NA waterpipe off the back of the waterpump in order to clean up some of the non used pipes that are on the GTE waterline.
R33E8
05-23-2011, 06:02 PM
fuck yes! This is what I need!!! This is the only part of my 2jz swap I have at the moment.. Haltech 2000 with fully terminated 2jz harness..
http://i.imgur.com/odFaZl.jpg
Now I'm just looking to run across a good deal on a v160 trans or 6-speed front clip..
h815 240sx
05-23-2011, 06:23 PM
I couldn't tell by your pictures, but is there enough room to run fans?
jr_ss
05-24-2011, 04:24 PM
I couldn't tell by your pictures, but is there enough room to run fans?
Look closer... You can see twin FAL's in there.
daryl337
05-24-2011, 04:32 PM
+1, plethora of info there
Flicktitty
05-25-2011, 05:15 PM
Taylor Durdan at durdan prefab,does excellent harnesses.He did my sr harness and it is flawless.He also took the time relocate the ignitor in to the cabin of the vehicle.Very reasonable pricing and said he can swap any motor into a 240sx.Hit him up,great guy and easy to talk to.
Awesome always good to have more wiring people. do you know if he has done a JZ/S-chassis car yet?
what a wealth of info! Thank you!
abundant amount of info. GREAT WRITE UP BROTHA!
They BRAH.
awesome information man. Wish this much would have been readily available when I started doing my swap a while back.
Thanks, i have to agree. back in 06-07 when i was gathering some info on the swap there wasn't much GOOD info on it. then when i started it in 07-08 there still wasn't alot of help. Even to this day alot of shops/companies but no real HELP without forking out some money. and the people that have done the swap seem to be quiet.
Another bit of useful information that alot of GTE guys will do, is that they will switch to the NA waterpipe off the back of the waterpump in order to clean up some of the non used pipes that are on the GTE waterline.Good thought as well, i can't say i've seen ALOT of people do this but some do yes.
fuck yes! This is what I need!!! This is the only part of my 2jz swap I have at the moment.. Haltech 2000 with fully terminated 2jz harness..
http://i.imgur.com/odFaZl.jpg
Now I'm just looking to run across a good deal on a v160 trans or 6-speed front clip..
Awesome, that car with a 6spd will be awesome!
I couldn't tell by your pictures, but is there enough room to run fans? yes it is a VERY tight fit, make sure you get some SLIM fans. i got some of the "cheap" ones Tommy (ESone3) At ILL GARAGE had for sale, drop him a line see whats up. I'll see if i have some pics of the clearance.
Look closer... You can see twin FAL's in there.
True that. They are not in fact FAL's on mine.
+1, plethora of info there
Thanks guy's!
mwilloughby87
05-26-2011, 09:56 AM
You are definitely right man....not a whole lot of information out there at all. I posted some misc. stuff in my build thread, but the main site I post all of it too doesn't really care about technical stuff so I never got too in depth with it.
I was going to do a writeup on my dual in tank pump setup since I couldn't ever find a writeup on anyone else doing it with an s14, nor was I able to find a company that produced a hangar for it.
You might have previously mentioned it, but what did you end up going with?
Flicktitty
05-26-2011, 09:39 PM
Dual fuel system (at the hanger) isn't done yet. have a few ideas should figure it out in the next week or two and show some pics.
if you have any dual intank pics please post them.
mwilloughby87
05-31-2011, 11:05 AM
Dual fuel system (at the hanger) isn't done yet. have a few ideas should figure it out in the next week or two and show some pics.
if you have any dual intank pics please post them.
Yeah, I've got some pics of mine I will post up today. I went from a writeup I found on supraforums, and just applied it here. Doesn't look the prettiest, but it works just fine.
Flicktitty
05-31-2011, 11:11 AM
Took these pics this weekend when RE-building the coupe.
HEATER HOSES for the 2JZ-S13
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/IMG_5482.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/IMG_5477.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/IMG_5485-1.jpg
The top hose consists of 2 90 degree heater hoses. with a coupler in the middle. pretty easy simple stuff.
the lower hose, i went to autozone and asked to look at there heater hose and grabbed one that looked like it could fit, i think i have the part number somewhere. but its pretty simple.
i also did some heat reflecting wrap over the heater hose since it is close to the motor and the downpipe once that is installed.
here are some more power steering for a 2JZ-S13 the stainless steel braided line is a out of the box ISIS line, i will be removing this in favor of a custom one later this year and i will be selling a copy of the one i built for myself if anyone is interested let me know. the other line is a factory DOHC hard line. and then a factory DOHC rubber line, as well as a 3/4" rubber hose from autozone to connect the pump to the resovoir.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/IMG_5484.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/IMG_5483.jpg
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Build threads:
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05-31-2011, 04:09 PM
This is not a build thread, it is an info thread!
This is not an appropriate Build Thread.
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Build threads:
Almost everyone enjoys building their cars and sharing that experience, as well as checking out others' builds for inspiration. Sadly, far too many users have a tendency to do half-hearted builds and either rarely update or update with trivial progress. In the interest of keeping the Chat forum clear of three hundred 'Install SR, ziptie aero, rattlecan paint' threads, incomplete, or in-progress build threads are not allowed. If you have completed your build, wrangle all those pictures into a post and tell us about it, but make sure the build is finalized. If you insist on having an in-progress build, Premium members have a specialized subforum for that specific purpose.
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GoToast
05-31-2011, 06:47 PM
I haven't fully read all of this but I already have one remark. Get ridof the TCTB and either use an ebay TB or an oversized 1J one. That will help your Intake coupler clear the radiator better and produce better flow. Or just remove the TB and cut the TC stuff off and use a mildly longer coupling.
KA radiator is a must.
I had the same heat issues in my old coupe with a 1JZ and stock twins.
If ZeroLift hasnt changed their mount kit since I used it about a year ago, then highly advise aginst purchasing it. I had to custom knotch the mounts and some other jenky stuff to get fitment.
I would recommend either dual pusher fans or a V-mount setup(doing that on my next swap). And a low *C thermostat. Something like the TRD one or colder. Or just dont run one.
Also the problem I ran in to with Puller fans is that tyou have trouble finding a hight enough CFM in such a skinny fan. The lack of space between the fans and pulley's/timing cover cause a major air flow issue. Along with the variable of what front bumper you use, intercooler size and placement. I advise against using a stock front bumper(IMO). You risk overheating at low speeds.
Custom PS line works great, thats what I did. If I recall correctly mine was about 18 inches overall of braided stainless. And the return line off the resevoir will always leak on s13 if you've ever taken it off. Dgrease everything and try a little bit of black form-a-gasket or Toyota FIPG where it clamps on.
If I can think of anythng else that can help, I'll chime in. Otherwise It's good to see someone else sharin the knowledge.
Syncade
06-02-2011, 10:15 AM
Hey OP,
Update the Ruckus Racing/Zerolift Mounts to "Terrible - Stay away"
I bent mine before the car was even driven hard. Zerolift offers no help or signs of caring.
Just an FYI for fellow members!
Flicktitty
06-02-2011, 10:21 AM
Hey OP,
Update the Ruckus Racing/Zerolift Mounts to "Terrible - Stay away"
I bent mine before the car was even driven hard. Zerolift offers no help or signs of caring.
Just an FYI for fellow members!
WOW, that SUCKS! thank's for the heads up.
I haven't fully read all of this but I already have one remark. Get rid of the TCTB and either use an ebay TB or an oversized 1J one. That will help your Intake coupler clear the radiator better and produce better flow. Or just remove the TB and cut the TC stuff off and use a mildly longer coupling.
KA radiator is a must.
I had the same heat issues in my old coupe with a 1JZ and stock twins.
If ZeroLift hasn't changed their mount kit since I used it about a year ago, then highly advise aginst purchasing it. I had to custom knotch the mounts and some other jenky stuff to get fitment.
I would recommend either dual pusher fans or a V-mount setup(doing that on my next swap). And a low *C thermostat. Something like the TRD one or colder. Or just don't run one.
Also the problem I ran in to with Puller fans is that tyou have trouble finding a hight enough CFM in such a skinny fan. The lack of space between the fans and pulley's/timing cover cause a major air flow issue. Along with the variable of what front bumper you use, intercooler size and placement. I advise against using a stock front bumper(IMO). You risk overheating at low speeds.
Custom PS line works great, that's what I did. If I recall correctly mine was about 18 inches overall of braided stainless. And the return line off the reservoir will always leak on s13 if you've ever taken it off. Degrease everything and try a little bit of black form-a-gasket or Toyota FIPG where it clamps on.
If I can think of anything else that can help, I'll chime in. Otherwise It's good to see someone else sharin the knowledge.
Thanks for the added info. i will try and add some of this into the first post. If not, everyone can see it when they keep reading it.
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Thanks for wasteing space in this thread. if you want to see MY BUILD thread go here: http://zilvia.net/f/chat/223490-2jz-240sx-build-project-300sx.html
ta2dpnoy
06-03-2011, 11:55 PM
Such a great info.! I am in the process of swapping in a 1jz vvti. The heater hoses cleared some confusion and so does the p/s line.
How do you go about using the JZ a/c compressor? I mean what kind of fittings do I need to use it? I don't think the stock s14 compressor fittings will work.
I will try and contact Taylor Durdan and see if he could do my wiring since everyone else is so busy like, Sean Palmquist and Z U l8er. Those are the only 2 guys I would send my harness to from what I read on other forums. Worst case is sending it to Tech2 or Phoenix Tuning. Drifts135, a member here, also knows how to wire a 1jzvvti into an s14 since he's done one for his buddy and he told me he could help me out. Tried contacting him but no reply.
Very informative thread. I'll add some of my build tid-bits.
There's a thread on KA-T.org about the Bosch 044 modified to fit into the S14 Fuel tank.
Here: www.ka-t.org :: View topic - HOW TO: INSTALL BOSCH 044 in S14 (http://www.ka-t.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=50539&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=&sid=3bb06531f25ed09071d882c3cdd3ec50)
I opted to re-route the fuel lines to the driver side frame rail. I was concerned about heating fuel and other dangers with turbocharger proximity. Converting to the opposite was very costly, but I think it's worth it.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq331/spartanhockey409/photo21.jpg
In-line Walbro 255 paired with the in-tank Walbro 255.
All -6 AN line and fittings.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq331/spartanhockey409/191260_1611788816712_1296000280_31264283_5023337_o .jpg?t=1301944139
Use of an aftermarket fuel rail.
Posed a few issues. Since I upgraded the fuel injectors, I opted for a new rail. The feed fitting, pictured here, is an extremely tight fit. Fitting is a -8 Male into the Rail, to a 90 Degree -6 Male. This was the 4th setup I tried, and has not leaked yet.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq331/spartanhockey409/photo20-1.jpg
Samco Kit, MKIII Supra was a perfect fit.
Radiator: Griffin 2 Core for the KA24DE.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq331/spartanhockey409/photo28-2.jpg
Upper waterneck was modified.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq331/spartanhockey409/photo26-1.jpg
Here's a good idea of the underchassis. Sikky sway bar fits excellent with the oil pan, absolutely ZERO clearance issues.
http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/249658_1726916814840_1296000280_31394849_3480967_n .jpg
Parts for the oil cooler setup (not installed yet)
I'd be more than happy to elaborate for anyone interested.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq331/spartanhockey409/240859_226120570746913_100000469159110_907891_5171 35_o.jpg
Oh, here's the exhaust setup. The front section is oval for clearance, then converts to round tubing after the transmission mount.
http://i461.photobucket.com/albums/qq331/spartanhockey409/241542_223951230963847_100000469159110_893013_8107 996_o.jpg
Intercooler piping still under construction.
I'd like to see everyone's input on a throttle cable. Tech2Motorsports sells a bracket that utilizes the factory S-Chassis cable, which on the drivers side, the cable is super long.
mwilloughby87
06-05-2011, 08:54 PM
For the throttle cable, I used a factory 93tt supra throttle cable and modified it to fit.
Flicktitty
06-05-2011, 11:28 PM
u can modify the stock ka cable bracket, i'll get a pic tomorrow
ta2dpnoy
06-06-2011, 07:52 PM
u can modify the stock ka cable bracket, i'll get a pic tomorrow
please do.
h815 240sx
06-07-2011, 08:59 PM
interested in oil cooler set up too
GoToast
06-10-2011, 11:01 AM
Such a great info.! I am in the process of swapping in a 1jz vvti. The heater hoses cleared some confusion and so does the p/s line.
How do you go about using the JZ a/c compressor? I mean what kind of fittings do I need to use it? I don't think the stock s14 compressor fittings will work.
I will try and contact Taylor Durdan and see if he could do my wiring since everyone else is so busy like, Sean Palmquist and Z U l8er. Those are the only 2 guys I would send my harness to from what I read on other forums. Worst case is sending it to Tech2 or Phoenix Tuning. Drifts135, a member here, also knows how to wire a 1jzvvti into an s14 since he's done one for his buddy and he told me he could help me out. Tried contacting him but no reply.
Using the VVTi 1JZ(single turbo) makes the heater lines easier since you dont have the space taken up like the Twin Turbo 1JZ.
As far as the AC stuff, no one to my knowledge makes adapters. What I was going to do was take my stock KA compressor lines off and the stock 1JZ lines. Find a local Hydraulic line shop and tell them that I needed the fittings switched over.
Finding someone to do your wiring is tricky. Drifts135 is great guy, very hard to get a hold of, but knows his stuff inside and out. He's not always able to get to a computer so it's usually just a matter of time or how busy he is. He did the wiring on my car in a day.
And have you contacted JordanInnovations?
Flicktitty
06-10-2011, 11:03 AM
interested in oil cooler set up too
oil cooler setups are pretty easy.
i have a Glowshift adapter, some fittings and hose to a earls cooler in one of the ducts in my bumper. I'll get some pics this weekend, i can replicate a copy of mine to if you would like.
GoToast
06-10-2011, 11:04 AM
When I had my 1JZ swap, I used my ka24de throttle cable in the 1JZ cable bracket. Granted it was about an 1/8" too long. Supposedly the KA24E cable is shorter than the KA24DE. I havent looked in to it.
Oil Cooler Setup.
First off, when I first began my research on this swap in general, I read over and over again how important it was to spend the money on quality cooling parts. At any rate, once I felt my water system was stout, I moved onto to research oil cooling systems.
Now, the 1JZ in my case, and the 2JZ utilize a factory oil cooling system. Water is plumbed through the filter housing and cools the oil. Nonetheless, many have found this system inefficient for track use and opted for an external radiator type cooler.
Literature:
This is a great thread to go through here on zilvia:
http://zilvia.net/f/tech-talk/225223-school-me-oil-cooler-setups.html
Read the PDF file, very informative and clear pictures:
My take on an Oil Cooler Install (http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?442300-My-take-on-an-Oil-Cooler-Install)
This is the thread I based most of my purchases off of:
Installing a Full Flow, Thermostat Controlled Oil Cooler & Remote Filter (http://www.supramania.com/forums/showthread.php?62838-Installing-a-Full-Flow-Thermostat-Controlled-Oil-Cooler-amp-Remote-Filter)
My Personal Setup:
- Setrab Oil Cooler, Spal 6" Fan
- Canton Block Adapter
- Remote Oil Filter Housing
- Remote Earl's Oil Thermostat
- -10 AN Lines
- (6) -10 AN, Straight Fittings
- (2) -10 AN, 45 Degree
- (2) -10 AN, 90 Degree
- (4) 1/2" NPT, Straight to -10 AN Male
- (4) -10 AN, Male Couplers
- (2) -8 AN to - 10 AN (These are not necessary for every setup; my oil cooler from Setrap happened to be -8 AN Fittings
Once you understand how to search for fittings on Summit or Jegs, it's a breeze. For example to find a -10 AN Hose End, search: "Fitting, Straight, -10 AN, Hose End"
Cost:
$550, all fittings, hose, plates, and thermostat were purchased from Summit Racing; the oil cooler was purchased 2nd hand off a Zilvia seller.
As the SupraMania thread alludes to, there are several different setups. A more economical one for example would be a block adapter that houses the oil filter, but also contains a thermostat.
(1) Oil flows from the Canton adapter to the "IN" on the Filter Housing
(2) "Out" the Filter Housing to the Thermostat
- There are 4 Fittings for the thermostat (From Engine, To Engine, From OC, to OC)
(3) If the oil temperature is -160 Degrees, oil will be routed back to the engine
(4) If the oil temperature is +160 degrees, oil will flow to the cooler
(5) From the cooler, back into the thermostat
(6) Thermostat back to the Canton adapter on the block
Hope this helps.
I will document my actual installation.
JeeBus
06-10-2011, 04:12 PM
AWESOME!
Lots of information here I can use, I will be tackling the 2jz swap into a 300zx soon, And there's absolute NO write-up or any information in what to do with the 300zx.
As far as the subframe and mounts and stuff, I have all that covered..not so hard.
What really has me "fooled" is the abundance of wiring schematics for the 2jz/supra/aristo.
I'm fairly confident with wiring, and I've made a few custom harnesses for Z32's.
As soon as I can get my hands on a factory service manual for an aristo (I have JDM ariso 2jz), the project will be under way.
In for pics of the oil cooler set up from aled.
ta2dpnoy
06-10-2011, 06:58 PM
Using the VVTi 1JZ(single turbo) makes the heater lines easier since you dont have the space taken up like the Twin Turbo 1JZ.
As far as the AC stuff, no one to my knowledge makes adapters. What I was going to do was take my stock KA compressor lines off and the stock 1JZ lines. Find a local Hydraulic line shop and tell them that I needed the fittings switched over.
Finding someone to do your wiring is tricky. Drifts135 is great guy, very hard to get a hold of, but knows his stuff inside and out. He's not always able to get to a computer so it's usually just a matter of time or how busy he is. He did the wiring on my car in a day.
And have you contacted JordanInnovations?
Thats what I thought of today about the A/C fittings. Get the jz fittings welded to the KA hoses. Challenging part is finding a shop that will do it.
Yeah, drifts135 is very hard to get a hold of. we texted a couple times but that was it. charges really cheap too compared to others. I just decided to send it to Sean since I got a hold of him.
Does JordanInnovations do conversion wiring for the 1jz?
Flicktitty
06-14-2011, 09:07 AM
some pics of my oil cooler setup. nothing fancy.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/IMG_5686.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/IMG_5655.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/IMG_5654.jpg
the cooler on the passenger side is for a transmission cooler, the black AN style hose is a fuel line hose. and the smaller silver AN hose is for the power steering.
ta2dpnoy
06-15-2011, 03:32 PM
Got my ebay mounts today and an R154 mount. My trans is a soarer (the one with shifter extension). My question is, which holes should I use to line up for an s14 chassis?
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9915/photo0454b.jpg
R33E8
06-22-2011, 10:04 PM
Some service manual and wire info...
Engine Mechanical section of service manual: EM (2JZ-GTE).pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/?xdriggzadyyiwup)
ECU pinouts: 2JZGTE_UKSpec_ECU_pinout.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/?r3p9txcoh5f1v4p)
Torque and Service specs: Torque & Service Specifications.pdf (http://www.mediafire.com/?9wyalkhdjzhg934)
List of all the 2jz info I have: Free File Hosting Made Simple - MediaFire (http://www.mediafire.com/?67mh982nm70h6)
Feel free to rehost these just incase something happens to them..
h815 240sx
06-28-2011, 08:31 PM
Are there any fans that will fit in-between the radiator and the engine, if i wanted to run the pbm high mount?
turtle m3th
06-28-2011, 08:44 PM
h815: yeah, but there is really no point in running pbm in particular seeing as you'd have to make custom piping anyways. Lots of people have run rads meant for 240's in stock location with puller fans, but most people tend to step up to something a little larger.
Flicktitty
06-28-2011, 09:12 PM
i run some "off the shelf" dual 12" Slim fans. they are about as thick as you can go without getting into trouble.
turtle m3th
07-01-2011, 07:31 PM
Does the tranny tunnel require massaging to fit the r154? Oh yeah, and Welcome to Driftmotion! (http://store.driftmotion.com/static/index.php) is a pretty dope site to find jz related parts!
Got my ebay mounts today and an R154 mount. My trans is a soarer (the one with shifter extension). My question is, which holes should I use to line up for an s14 chassis?
http://img194.imageshack.us/img194/9915/photo0454b.jpg
I want to say mine used the front two holes; don't hold me to it.
Next time I have the car up in the air, I will get back to you.
Are there any fans that will fit in-between the radiator and the engine, if i wanted to run the pbm high mount?
I could have easily fit my Flex-a-Lite's in between if I hadn't gone with a 2 core radiator that is 3'' thick.
Does the tranny tunnel require massaging to fit the r154? Oh yeah, and Welcome to Driftmotion! (http://store.driftmotion.com/static/index.php) is a pretty dope site to find jz related parts!
I massaged my S14 tunnel to fit my R154 on the intake manifold side.
BFH came in handy.
turtle m3th
07-06-2011, 08:04 PM
Are you guys running the stock clutch master cylinder?
Flicktitty
07-20-2011, 06:23 PM
i thought i have heard a rumor of people using MKIII Supra CMC? Not 100% sure that is not my avenue of drivetrain, maybe someone will chime in.
crono72000
07-27-2011, 03:47 PM
Nice work man, cars looking good too !
Long time no chat, pm me sometime.
crono72000
07-27-2011, 03:50 PM
Are you guys running the stock clutch master cylinder?
Yes actualy.
Fractur3
07-27-2011, 04:10 PM
good info, this will be helpful
motoXracer01
07-28-2011, 01:36 AM
This is the BEST page I have found on this swap. Awesome job! Sure will help out ALOT of people and answer many questions. Keep it up.
Flicktitty
07-28-2011, 08:54 AM
Nice work man, cars looking good too !
Long time no chat, pm me sometime.
i sent you a apm like a month ago with no response?:wtc:
Are you guys running the stock clutch master cylinder?
OEM S14 Clutch Master Cylinder.
with this line:
Welcome to Driftmotion! (http://store.driftmotion.com/static/i-fulllengthclutchhose.php)
Perfect length and the same thread size/pitch.
1jz_240
07-28-2011, 02:51 PM
this is an awesome thread! i just pulled the ka to start prepping for my 1jz swap. i cant wait to have something to show like this! my question is as far as the slave cylandir goes. is it gonna be on oposite sides like the fuel lines are or is gonna be on the same side as the ka transmission? and is there anything custom that you need to do to make it work? or does it thread the same way? thanks in advance
turtle m3th
07-28-2011, 02:56 PM
The slave cylinder will end up on the driver side now, which makes for a cleaner install IMO! And thanks Aled for the information, I've subscribed to your thread and have definitely picked up some great info and insight for my personal setup!
. is it gonna be on oposite sides like the fuel lines are or is gonna be on the same side as the ka transmission? and is there anything custom that you need to do to make it work? or does it thread the same way? thanks in advance
The line that Drift Motion sells is the same exact thread pitch to the OEM Nissan Slave Cylinder.
I could have used my old clutch line from my SR setup, but it would have been longer and would have required shortening/looping.
The slave cylinder will end up on the driver side now, which makes for a cleaner install IMO! And thanks Aled for the information, I've subscribed to your thread and have definitely picked up some great info and insight for my personal setup!
Absolutely.
If you have any questions or problems feel free to PM me.
moschini
07-31-2011, 04:31 PM
Amazing thread, I will add some info once my JZ/Powerglide combo is going in :yum:
TrueFreshness
08-03-2011, 09:22 PM
I was just on cxracing's site looking for a piping kit. Im assuming I will need 3'' piping but i didnt know which kit I needed. any help?
moschini
08-16-2011, 05:47 PM
anymore updates?
HIGHFIVEBETA
08-16-2011, 05:52 PM
This thread makes me want to swap out my sr20 for a 2jzgte even moar! great thread
shiftdrift
08-16-2011, 07:02 PM
so i know very few have tackled the 1jz vvti swap into an s chassis, but i was wondering if anyone has any wiring schematics/manifold advice. i can only find a few vvti 1j manifolds and they are expensive as fuck. the one on ebay is 500 dollars shipped and it's cheap china shit, i was considering buying the non vvti manifold for 150 bucks and then making a vvti flange and cutting the runners short and routing them. probably going to go with a 60-1 agp turbo.
Flicktitty
08-16-2011, 07:38 PM
anymore updates? What else would you like to know? or would like added?
This thread makes me want to swap out my sr20 for a 2jzgte even moar! great thread
Do it, can't beat the sound of a JZ car.
so i know very few have tackled the 1jz vvti swap into an s chassis, but i was wondering if anyone has any wiring schematics/manifold advice. i can only find a few vvti 1j manifolds and they are expensive as fuck. the one on ebay is 500 dollars shipped and it's cheap china shit, i was considering buying the non vvti manifold for 150 bucks and then making a vvti flange and cutting the runners short and routing them. probably going to go with a 60-1 agp turbo.
I haven't looked to much into the VVT-I 1JZ Stuff, but wiring harness pinouts and schematics are tricky to find from what i have seen.
s14pit
08-19-2011, 11:00 PM
Well here is a link to my completed build of my N/A 2jz and Now inprogress V-Mount 1JZ set-up. I had my N/A motor running in my car since Dec. of 2009 and it has been great never let me down. But I have come to the point of where I am ready for a little more power and a cleaner set-up here is my link I am can try and help when people need it just PM me.
Build Thread
http://zilvia.net/f/chat/359644-s13-2jzge-swap-coupe-build.html
h815 240sx
08-29-2011, 07:52 AM
Anyone know a place where to get a one piece steel drive shaft?
Also it looks like all the companies for the engine mounts are either out of business (myjzswap), not working (dm-spec), have bad reviews (zerolift, even though i got my 1jz from them and had no problems) or are out of my price range (tech 2). So that leaves me with Turbo Dave, does anyone know anything about these other than the desription? review on mounts/ company? i've never heard of them till now. pictures?
turtle m3th
08-29-2011, 08:06 PM
^ Here ya go. 240SX S13 S14 SWAP ENGINE MOTOR MOUNT BRACKET 1JZ 2JZ | eBay (http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/240SX-S13-S14-SWAP-ENGINE-MOTOR-MOUNT-BRACKET-1JZ-2JZ-/260545025774?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3ca9b196ee#ht_1570wt_1165)
I've seen people use them before with no issues
h815 240sx
08-30-2011, 02:53 PM
^ I did see those, I'm just always a little skeptical about ebay parts.
Also emailed the driveshaftshop and they make a once piece steel for the r154 trans and its the same price as a ka/sr drive shat.
CDD200
08-30-2011, 04:42 PM
^ hey call me at work i can price you on a steel or alum shaft, we do rears, driveshafts, and trans along with other things, i'm going to build mine out of 3in alum with solid joints.
powertrain inc 800 342 1132 ask for chad m-f 8-5 east coast
s14pit
08-30-2011, 07:55 PM
I got mine alum. shaft from shaftmasters.com never had any problems along with 2 other friends of mine.
h815 240sx
08-30-2011, 09:23 PM
it will be a while, but i'll keep all the options in mind. thanks guys!
maybe ad these to the front page?
babillaracing
08-30-2011, 10:18 PM
nice write up
shiftdrift
09-04-2011, 09:39 AM
So instead of spending 500 bucks on a Taiwan vvti manifold I've decided to mod a non vvti for less than half the price. I plan on cutting the non vvti off at the runners a couple inches before the exhaust flange, cutting out a vvti flange and attaching the two.
jdm2191
09-04-2011, 08:40 PM
This thread is FUCKIN AWESOME! Alot of good ideas for my 1JZ Swap
nsain
09-04-2011, 09:00 PM
awsome thread, good info. i was wondering if the stock 240sx water temperature gauge will be able to work properly with the 2jz coolant temp sensor?
jdm2191
09-04-2011, 10:10 PM
awsome thread, good info. i was wondering if the stock 240sx water temperature gauge will be able to work properly with the 2jz coolant temp sensor?
I heard it can if u tap & dice the waterneck to fit are temp. guage sensor
but it will probably better to just run a aftermarket Temp Guage IMO....
turbo please
09-06-2011, 12:36 PM
Now as far as a 2j r154 swap, am I going to b searching for clutch and flywheel for a 2j or 1j
nsain
09-09-2011, 12:05 PM
Now as far as a 2j r154 swap, am I going to b searching for clutch and flywheel for a 2j or 1j
flywheel has to be from a 1jz, clutch can be from a 1jz or 7mgte
jdm2191
09-12-2011, 11:07 PM
We need some more people to give us the secrets on the "How to wire 1JZ/2JZ to 240's" :)
s14pit
09-15-2011, 06:26 PM
There are no secrets its all in the wiring diagram you have to know how to read that before and then you will know how to do your harness. That shows where you need power switched or constant power everything you need to know.
vbgambini
09-15-2011, 07:10 PM
Nice write up. I have a 1j in my 98 240sx and having issues with cooling when i have the AC on. When it heats up im simply turn the AC off and im back to normal. I have dual fans pulling through a mishimoto radiator. The 1j has about 60k miles on it roughly. Stock temp guage as well. Anything I should try? Adding more fans? Last thing i wanna do is vent my hood. Thanks.
s14pit
09-15-2011, 07:27 PM
better fans would help plus if you dont have one on the condenser I would put one.
jdm2191
09-16-2011, 02:48 AM
Has anybody tried this Diagram?
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/halftherotatingmasska/My2JZDiagram.jpg
vbgambini
09-16-2011, 10:13 AM
better fans would help plus if you dont have one on the condenser I would put one.
yea i was thinking of putting one on the condenser. Not sure how much room I have in there though. Should I put it in the front or in the back pulling through to the radiator? Would I have battery problems running 3 or more fans?
florante rea
09-16-2011, 11:38 AM
E shift also do many 2jz swaps, may have to contact them soon too.
onlydrinkkoolaid
09-18-2011, 03:13 PM
Nice write up. I have a 1j in my 98 240sx and having issues with cooling when i have the AC on. When it heats up im simply turn the AC off and im back to normal. I have dual fans pulling through a mishimoto radiator. The 1j has about 60k miles on it roughly. Stock temp guage as well. Anything I should try? Adding more fans? Last thing i wanna do is vent my hood. Thanks.
just out of curiosity how did you mod the ac lines to work or did you just get a custom line made
BDMs14
09-20-2011, 05:50 PM
Parts (http://www.theturbodave.com/Parts.php) I think I'm gonna go with these guys on my jz swap. The other places seem to have to nany issues to bear with.
Deftec
09-21-2011, 08:39 PM
Checking in to this thread since the other "sites" are down. My car is finally alive after a year of rebuilding :D Can't fucking wait. Btw flick, your car is fucking siiiiiiiick.
shiftdrift
09-21-2011, 08:42 PM
got the head off the 1j, about to port and polish it at work, then time to arp it up.
Ramonesfreak2010
09-22-2011, 02:14 PM
Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
The R154 transmission didn't originally come off the 2jz? I see a lot of people swapping the tranny housings with a 1jz housing. Why is that? Then you have to use a 1jz flywheel, but still can use a 2jz clutch kit?
Flicktitty
09-22-2011, 03:02 PM
Has anybody tried this Diagram?
http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i103/halftherotatingmasska/My2JZDiagram.jpg
I would love to see someone else that car verify if this would work or not. As there are a few other JZ-S13/S14 cars coming out it would be nice to have diagrams.
Checking in to this thread since the other "sites" are down. My car is finally alive after a year of rebuilding :D Can't fucking wait. Btw flick, your car is fucking siiiiiiiick.Yeah, Pretty shitty what has come of the 2 differant JZ Swap sites. Thanks Deftec. means alot hearing that from someone who has been into JZ-S-Chassis since the beginning it seems. You got your built motor/bigger turbo now? any more info/videos?
Deftec
09-23-2011, 09:18 PM
Nothing really as of recent. The #6 bearing was starting to fail in the engine the last time I took it to the track. Ran a 13.1 @ 107mph. 1.9 60'. So I pulled the motor with just the intention of adding some bearings and throwing it back in, but ended up going overboard.
.020 over pistons
1mm over intake/exhaust valves, springs, retainers
272 cams
t78 turbo
100 shot(still awaiting installation)
AEM
2 -10an lines to a boost logic rail, 1000cc injectors, AEM pump, fuel cell
Kind of went overboard, but it'll be a fun as hell car lol. I don't have video of it running yet, but should have some video/track vids by next weekend if they get it tuned in time. This is the most recent pic I have of it from last month. I'll do a full thread on it once I get the car back.
https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/282135_10150334393445973_505120972_9877599_5953192 _n.jpg
Most of the wiring has been cleaned up. The shop doing it has done a ton of rewiring/fixing some minor issues with it.
Sorry to thread jack lol. As for the sites, yes, it's quite shitty and VERY stupid what Sean has done to people. Someone really needs to step in and start doing this shit that is known for good customer service. Ah well, such is life, and maybe someday we'll have a book full of excuses lol.
Ramonesfreak2010
09-28-2011, 11:04 PM
So is myjzswap out of business or what?
Kingtal0n
10-02-2011, 07:23 PM
I loooove the 2jz-gte, easily my favorite engine in the world. Lots of great reasons some of which are:
great availability and reliability, cheap for what you get, incredibly strong block, impressive oem internals and design, high performance OEM head and valvetrain, utilizes a map sensor from the oem... just some of the +++ off the top of my head.
I have some good pictures when I figure out my photobucket password
h815 240sx
10-07-2011, 07:58 AM
What did everyone use for there clutch line? I havent found anything about it yet.
JeeBus
10-09-2011, 12:15 AM
OEM S14 Clutch Master Cylinder.
with this line:
Welcome to Driftmotion! (http://store.driftmotion.com/static/i-fulllengthclutchhose.php)
Perfect length and the same thread size/pitch.
The slave cylinder will end up on the driver side now, which makes for a cleaner install IMO! And thanks Aled for the information, I've subscribed to your thread and have definitely picked up some great info and insight for my personal setup!
The line that Drift Motion sells is the same exact thread pitch to the OEM Nissan Slave Cylinder.
I could have used my old clutch line from my SR setup, but it would have been longer and would have required shortening/looping.
Absolutely.
If you have any questions or problems feel free to PM me.
^^^^
What did everyone use for there clutch line? I havent found anything about it yet.
Read above. :bigok:
s14pit
10-10-2011, 08:32 PM
Does any one know if a aem ems v1 box from a supra be used on a 240 with a 2jzgte?
I was told that you have to have some aftermarket ignition module from hks or greddy.
Chase Bays
10-11-2011, 10:36 AM
Didn't see this. We have plenty of items to make your 2JZ swap easier and cheaper
Chase Bays Engine Harness - Toyota 1JZ-GTE | 2JZ-GE | 2JZ-GTE (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-engine-harness--toyota-1jzgte--2jzge--2jzgte) We've done all the dirty work. Why hack up the used OEM harness when we've made a brand new harness for your swap in your chassis? Oh, and its great looking. :)
Chase Bays Tucked Aluminum Radiator (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-tucked-aluminum-radiator) Frees up engine bay space the 2JZ takes so much of
Chase Bays AN Fuel Line Kit - Nissan 240sx w/ 1JZ | 2JZ (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-an-fuel-line-kit--nissan-240sx-w-1jz--2jz) Fuel lines need some modification with the swap. With the 1JZ/2JZ the manifold is on the fuel outlet side now. Our kit changes that.
Chase Bays Stainless Steel Power Steering Hose - Nissan 240sx S13/S14 (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-power-steering-hose--nissan-240sx-s13s14) High Pressure Hose thats required for the swap, pressure tested and fits perfect.
Chase Bays Power Steering Kit - Nissan 240sx w/ 1JZ | 2JZ (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-power-steering-kit--nissan-240sx-w-1jz2jz) A great looking kit that serves a purpose. If your stock reservoir and hoses don't leak now, they will soon.
Chase Bays Clutch Line - Nissan 240sx (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-clutch-line--nissan-240sx) Great looking, rigid, and functional.
Hope this helps!
Chase Bays Products - ChaseBays.com (http://www.chasebays.com/products/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/)
Chase Bays
10-11-2011, 10:43 AM
Does any one know if a aem ems v1 box from a supra be used on a 240 with a 2jzgte?
I was told that you have to have some aftermarket ignition module from hks or greddy.
We've done it with the OEM Supra Igniter and the OEM IS300 igniter. The only reason its needed is because the Supra coils are "dumb" coils. Meaning they do not have internal igniters, hence the external igniters listed above.
If you use "smart" coils you won't need the oem igniters or aftermarket ignition modules. They use internal igniters and can be wired directly to the EMS. Very soon we will be releasing a bolt in plate for 1JZ / 2JZ to mount LS2 truck coils, and of course the wiring to make it all work.
Deftec
10-11-2011, 06:07 PM
I want that plate. NOW. Kthx.
Flicktitty
10-12-2011, 02:59 PM
Chase - Still wish you guy's would consider doing an automatic harness :(
Also any pics of your harness installed on a JZ yet? I've heard they look great i would love to see how it is ran though.
Ramonesfreak2010
10-12-2011, 08:04 PM
Didn't see this. We have plenty of items to make your 2JZ swap easier and cheaper
Chase Bays Engine Harness - Toyota 1JZ-GTE | 2JZ-GE | 2JZ-GTE (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-engine-harness--toyota-1jzgte--2jzge--2jzgte) We've done all the dirty work. Why hack up the used OEM harness when we've made a brand new harness for your swap in your chassis? Oh, and its great looking. :)
Chase Bays Tucked Aluminum Radiator (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-tucked-aluminum-radiator) Frees up engine bay space the 2JZ takes so much of
Chase Bays AN Fuel Line Kit - Nissan 240sx w/ 1JZ | 2JZ (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-an-fuel-line-kit--nissan-240sx-w-1jz--2jz) Fuel lines need some modification with the swap. With the 1JZ/2JZ the manifold is on the fuel outlet side now. Our kit changes that.
Chase Bays Stainless Steel Power Steering Hose - Nissan 240sx S13/S14 (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-power-steering-hose--nissan-240sx-s13s14) High Pressure Hose thats required for the swap, pressure tested and fits perfect.
Chase Bays Power Steering Kit - Nissan 240sx w/ 1JZ | 2JZ (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-power-steering-kit--nissan-240sx-w-1jz2jz) A great looking kit that serves a purpose. If your stock reservoir and hoses don't leak now, they will soon.
Chase Bays Clutch Line - Nissan 240sx (http://www.chasebays.com/product/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/chase-bays-clutch-line--nissan-240sx) Great looking, rigid, and functional.
Hope this helps!
Chase Bays Products - ChaseBays.com (http://www.chasebays.com/products/nissan-240sx/chase-bays-products/)
I love you guys. :fruit:
Flicktitty
10-14-2011, 12:23 PM
Updated the first post with a differant/new mount kit option.
This is what a modified crossmember will look like.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/ls.jpg
just for referance too, when i got the Tech2 kit this is how it came.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/l-1.jpg
note the crossmemeber modification vs. the stock crossmember below.
http://nkdrift.files.wordpress.com/2011/05/xmember.jpg?w=500&h=296
you can buy them from jdm2191 (http://zilvia.net/f/members/jdm2191.html), if he has sold them try finding them somewhere else.
Deftec
10-15-2011, 01:33 PM
I can't figure out the embedding code on this site haha
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzR4Mfx2I-M
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFR3CuqJZa4&feature=related
ke70 sr20det
10-18-2011, 09:13 PM
hey i have also done jdm 2jz swap in my silvia s13 it runs perfectly fine the only problem is its not showing temperature and fuel in the cluster how can i fix that
having hard time driving with no fuel and temp readings
thanks
florante rea
10-22-2011, 03:43 PM
Any recommendations for flywheel n clutch options for the r154?
Flicktitty
10-22-2011, 06:46 PM
First post edit'd with another mount kit from FREED Engineering.
I can't figure out the embedding code on this site haha
2jz 240 idle. - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzR4Mfx2I-M)
2jz 240 running - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VFR3CuqJZa4&feature=related)
Sounds good, needs more full run vids ;)
hey i have also done jdm 2jz swap in my silvia s13 it runs perfectly fine the only problem is its not showing temperature and fuel in the cluster how can i fix that
having hard time driving with no fuel and temp readings
thanks
Must be something wrong with the (12 or 10 pin connector) that goes from the harness to the cluster. thats what SHOULD make the fuel work. as far as temp. my temp gauge never really "worked" after my swap. i'm sure you could run a wire from the ecu to the gauge? i would HIGHLY reccomend a aftermarket temp gauge.
Any recommendations for flywheel n clutch options for the r154?
I'll leave that for the 5spd guys. seems alot of people like the ACT clutch though.
Deftec
10-23-2011, 11:09 AM
I'm running a Competition stage 5 clutch and love it. Just wish I could have found a lighter flywheel. I'm using the stock 1jz flywheel for now.
florante rea
10-23-2011, 11:44 AM
I spoke to drewgo yesterday about his turbo manifold.... Next year he's releasing v2 drewgo 2j mani:-)
jdm2191
11-17-2011, 01:21 PM
IF ANYONE IS INTERESTED THESE MOUNTS ARE STILL FOR SALE
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/412250-1jz-2jz-soarer-s13-engine-mounts-cheap.html#post4360446
onlydrinkkoolaid
11-17-2011, 05:59 PM
damn chase bays part are legit man will be sending my harness to you guys Im sold on your quality of work
jdm2191
12-18-2011, 01:08 AM
Hey Flicktitty you think I can get away with using aftermarker S-Chassis Motor Mounts with a Tech2 Kit?
h815 240sx
12-19-2011, 12:10 PM
what kind of fitting did you use for the fuel hardline to the new ones you ran?
weissguy
01-14-2012, 09:32 AM
Those of you with your electric fans mounted to the front of your radiator, how are your water temperatures? Mine are mounted to the back as a puller setup and there is barely any room.
Brian W.
01-17-2012, 12:42 AM
here are a few pics of mine....
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0289-2.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0280.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0215-1.jpg
http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j123/JDMFresh/DSC_0213.jpg
weissguy
01-18-2012, 10:18 AM
Thats pretty slick. Did you modify the radiator or the radiator support? More details please.
Does any one know if a aem ems v1 box from a supra be used on a 240 with a 2jzgte?
I was told that you have to have some aftermarket ignition module from hks or greddy.
Ahh the AEM.
I used a V1 AEM EMS on my 1JZ/S14 setup. I am still using the V1 AEM EMS on my 1.5JZ/S14 setup.
Since you are referring directly to the 2JZ engine, the AEM was only made for this engine. If anyone wants to get into what needs to be done to use a 2J AEM on a 1J, I can elaborate.
Alright, so the specific AEM EMS for the 2JZ, I believe the serial number 30-1100 will be plug-n-play. You are using the same ECU plugs regardless of the chassis the engine/wiring harness is in. All that is changed for the S-Chassis adaptation is the Nissan M63 Plug.
Then, wire in whatever AEM sensors you desire:
- Wideband
- MAP sensor
- Boost Control
Wiring for these sensors is VERY straight-forward.
As for the ignition system. You can get away with running the OEM Toyota ignition coil packs/etc. Here's the issue, you need to run a very tight spark plug gap on the OEM setup/AEM. However, if you convert to say a HKS DLI, you will have a much stronger Ignition charge, and will allow a bigger spark plug gap. More spark, less chance of breakup/blowout at higher RPM.
For ~$300, USED, the HKS DLI is a great idea for anyone wanting to go aftermarket ECU/Single setup.
Any recommendations for flywheel n clutch options for the r154?
I use the OEM 1J Flywheel and the ACT 6-Puck Clutch (Part #: TS2-XTG6)
ACT is rated at almost 630 ft/lbs. of torque. I have no complaints yet. I can say this though, if you have the finances to go Twin Disk, do it.
CDD200
01-24-2012, 08:12 PM
Finally got a swap harness after myjz and turbo dave fell through. Went with tweaked performance, paid out the hole but it is brand new and got it in a week, and fired the car up sunday night. these things really are a money pit,... somebody tell me it is worth it, thanks
bullfrogg0
01-26-2012, 10:32 AM
First off I wanna say thanks for you linking to my thread about wiring. I daily my car that that info came from and have no issues what so ever.
As far as the clutch line, driftmotion is a rip off. If you use the stock s chassis clutch master you can get a 30" hard line from oreily's for like $5 and just bend it around to fit, that's what I did and it works flawlessly.
bullfrogg0
01-26-2012, 11:56 AM
here's some pics i just took of mine. its dirty and not a very pretty swap, but i chose function over form.
here's my $5 clutch line
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/Bullfrogg0/IMAG0423.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/Bullfrogg0/IMAG0424.jpg
here's the fan and it's clearances (i cut about a half inch from the upper core support to lean the radiator forward just a bit, also it's an sr20 koyo rad)
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/Bullfrogg0/IMAG0425.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/Bullfrogg0/IMAG0426.jpg
here's the finished product and my daily
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/Bullfrogg0/IMAG0428.jpg
here's what the swan neck shifter and shifter extension look like coming up out of the stock boot
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/Bullfrogg0/IMAG0429.jpg
bullfrogg0
01-26-2012, 11:57 AM
oh, and i opted for all autometer gauges instead of the dakota digital stuff, that's the reason for the big tach lol
1jzs14
01-30-2012, 11:06 AM
so who still does the wirring for the 1jz swap is alot of people stoped doing this service?
Flicktitty
01-30-2012, 11:47 AM
so who still does the wirring for the 1jz swap is alot of people stoped doing this service?
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1jzs14
01-30-2012, 05:36 PM
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hey thanks man!
1jzs14
01-30-2012, 05:37 PM
also sick build man i had a 1j in my mkiii so i cant wait for it in my s14
blackrb240
01-30-2012, 10:17 PM
Shank ya sir Nick! This is Justin @ QFab'd!
jdm2191
01-30-2012, 10:28 PM
anyone need a Pressure Plate?
http://zilvia.net/f/sale-items/427642-xtd-1jz-r154-pressure-plate-cheap.html
CDD200
01-31-2012, 06:57 PM
How is everyone running there hot pipe with the fuse box right in the way? I want the pipe to as simple straight as it can but i dont see it with out cutting more of the car, any pics would be great, thanks
bullfrogg0
01-31-2012, 08:36 PM
You have an elbow welded onto the compressor outlet if you're big single. Something like this:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v518/Bullfrogg0/PART_1316219884467.jpg
1jzs14
02-01-2012, 06:16 PM
Update*
Tech2 were completly rude to me on the phone I will never buy anything from them again!!!
h815 240sx
02-01-2012, 07:07 PM
anyone know the dimensions for a custom driveshaft for s13 with r154? need them to send to driveshaft shop, want to double check my own measurements.
bullfrogg0
02-01-2012, 07:10 PM
Shaftmasters.com
Give them a call and you won't be disappointed. That's where i got mine from and love it.
koukimonsters13
02-01-2012, 07:32 PM
Gnarly thread!
alcolade
02-03-2012, 09:40 AM
Ill add to this as well.
You can check the blog out for more pics and updates as stuff gets done.
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz329/alcolade/Cars/b01012fb.jpg
I have alot to do still. Car is going to be full track car. Needs cage, cell, and alot more till its done. Focus lately has been on new chassis harness and redoing engine harness.
CDD200
02-03-2012, 06:54 PM
^nice ducati in the background, cool 2j also
JDM SPUG
02-13-2012, 06:25 PM
is that spark plug cover a dark green or is that just the lighting?
alcolade
02-14-2012, 08:31 AM
It's is actually a green to purple flip. It is not going to stay that color though.
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz329/alcolade/Cars/598e8f0b.jpg
It eventually will be silver to match the bay and the covers will be black to match the exterior. Or maybe vise versa.
dpkid101
02-14-2012, 09:33 PM
do any of you guys happen to know the specifications/ measurements to have a custom drive shaft made for the 2j into an s14? im looking into shaft masters, their pricing seems pretty reasonable
bullfrogg0
02-14-2012, 09:36 PM
Your best bet will be to get under the car and measure it yourself. That's what they had me do. thwy will tell you exactly where/how to measure. Good guys, thats where i got mine from and I love it.
dpkid101
02-15-2012, 12:50 PM
Your best bet will be to get under the car and measure it yourself. That's what they had me do. thwy will tell you exactly where/how to measure. Good guys, thats where i got mine from and I love it.
cool thanks man
dpkid101
02-15-2012, 12:53 PM
also do you guys know if you have to modify the cross member to run the ebay mounts? Im also looking into The Turbo Dave's mounts which i know for a fact you dont mod the cross member, but if i can get by with the ebay ones that would help out a little
bullfrogg0
02-15-2012, 12:56 PM
Nope. As long as u run a front sump there's no modification at all
bullfrogg0
02-15-2012, 12:56 PM
But for quality sake i say buy the turbo Dave mounts
dpkid101
02-15-2012, 05:27 PM
Thanks again!
Flicktitty
02-16-2012, 08:32 AM
But for quality sake i say buy the turbo Dave mounts
From everything i've seen those guy's are pretty damn hard to get ahold of it seems.
dpkid101
02-16-2012, 11:09 AM
From everything i've seen those guy's are pretty damn hard to get ahold of it seems.
i feel the same way, im even friends with a guy that works for them and i can barely ever get ahold of him. I might just opt for the ebay mounts just to save a few bucks that i can put towards a nice harness
bullfrogg0
02-16-2012, 11:21 AM
from everything I've seen and everything I've done there's really no need actually buy a wiring harness when you can just do the wiring yourself and save about 500 dollars
h815 240sx
02-16-2012, 03:24 PM
Everyone be careful about the EBAY mounts. The engine mounts fit nice and I had no problem with those. The trans was not even in the same ball park.
dpkid101
02-16-2012, 09:56 PM
from everything I've seen and everything I've done there's really no need actually buy a wiring harness when you can just do the wiring yourself and save about 500 dollars
i really dont even want to attempt doing that harness id rather have somebody that knows what theyre doing wire it up so i know im getting it back 100% working order
bullfrogg0
02-16-2012, 10:47 PM
It's only like 6 or 8 wires that need power, really hard to mess that up
alcolade
02-17-2012, 05:16 AM
Figure id throw it out there.
My swap is mounted with the Ebay mounts. dropped in very easy. trans mount lined right up to the R154 with no issues too.
Just leave it all loose when your putting it in and then tighten it.
dpkid101
02-17-2012, 07:52 AM
Figure id throw it out there.
My swap is mounted with the Ebay mounts. dropped in very easy. trans mount lined right up to the R154 with no issues too.
Just leave it all loose when your putting it in and then tighten it.
good to know!
dpkid101
02-17-2012, 07:55 AM
It's only like 6 or 8 wires that need power, really hard to mess that up
which pinout did you use? ive seen a few thrown out around the internet and have a couple saved to my other computer but i dont have it with me
dpkid101
02-17-2012, 08:04 AM
Heres one diagram ive seen pop up a few times. Have any of you used it before? Pulled this off of supramania.com btw
I have been trying trying to find a solution for a few of my electrical issues, and thought perhaps someone knowledgeable might come across this and be able to help...
I have put together a very easy to read, custom Wiring Diagram for how I wired up my 2JZ s13 240sx (ECU)
Here is a quick explanation:
Ok, to start off, both fuses and the 4-pin Relay were reallocated from the existing passenger side engine bay fuse-box.
I will explain what I used for each item:
30A Fuse - I poked around and found that the factory Nissan 30A "Cond. Fan/Anti Skid" fuse was hot at all times. I have no need for it, so I re-pinned the side which originally powered the fan, with 16 gauge wire, to match the gauge of the 2JZ ECU E10's BATT (pin 33) wire, which would splice into it. I was sure to include wire gauges in my diagram.
4 Pin Relay - I fitted a spare Nissan-Style 4 Pin Relay into an open slot, and re-pinned it with wire gauges to match that of it's corresponding ECU pins. (shown in diagram)
7.5A Fuse - I used the factory Nissan 10A "Eng. Cont" Fuse slot, but changed the Fuse to a 7.5A. (to match supra FSM)
2JZ IK1 Plug has 2 pins required for general start-up and run. Those 2 pins power the IACV ( pin E3 ), and Injectors / Coils / Etc. ( pin F6 ). My understanding is that all they need is a switched 12V source, so I spliced them between my 7.5A fuse, and the Ignition Switch.
http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj210/dpkid101/My2JZDiagram.jpg
Flipnirish
02-18-2012, 03:24 PM
Freed Engineering (http://freedengineering.com/)
Ben @ Freed engineering has mad skills at wiring and engine mount brackets. His prices are pretty reasonable as well.
Check them out!
dpkid101
02-18-2012, 08:43 PM
It's only like 6 or 8 wires that need power, really hard to mess that up
just found your diagrams and write ups, going to try it in the next couple of weeks
1jzs14
02-20-2012, 08:51 PM
can you use a 2jz lower radiator hose?
bullfrogg0
02-20-2012, 09:13 PM
Yeah, I used a 2jz upper and lower in mine. Just have to trim them to fit.
h815 240sx
02-21-2012, 10:48 AM
Anyone know of a front strut tower bar that will clear 1jz/2jz the intake piping? My Greddy isn't even close.
Said example:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xAjJFM6rRAI/S84uK4XA8aI/AAAAAAAAAFc/YStjADw3TVY/s1600/C's+Garage.jpg
Flicktitty
02-21-2012, 12:55 PM
Anyone know of a front strut tower bar that will clear 1jz/2jz the intake piping? My Greddy isn't even close.
Said example:
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_xAjJFM6rRAI/S84uK4XA8aI/AAAAAAAAAFc/YStjADw3TVY/s1600/C's+Garage.jpg
i had a cheap ass ebay one on mine...
OLD PIC
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/April006.jpg
jdm2191
02-22-2012, 01:10 AM
Hoping my Wiring comes out smooth...anyone running a Ford Inertia Cut Off Switch BTW?
1jzs14
02-22-2012, 01:18 AM
i had a cheap ass ebay one on mine...
OLD PIC
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/April006.jpg
so clean:drool:
1jzs14
02-22-2012, 09:43 AM
so i was changing out my oil pan to a front sump one and two of the bolts on the lower pan snapped at the head of the bolt!:eek3:
so what would be the best bet the holes should not be stripped and the bolts are not cross threaded. i have been told to drill them out but i know of easy outs which would be best to do easy out first see if it works?:bite:
1jzs14
02-22-2012, 09:46 AM
also will the 240sx powersteering resavior work on the 1j?
1jzs14
02-22-2012, 09:50 AM
so i was changing out my oil pan to a front sump one and two of the bolts on the lower pan snapped at the head of the bolt!:eek3:
so what would be the best bet the wholes should not be stripped and the bolts are not cross threaded. i have been told to drill them out but i know of easy outs which would be best to do easy out first see if it works?:bite:
Flicktitty
02-22-2012, 10:39 AM
so i was changing out my oil pan to a front sump one and two of the bolts on the lower pan snapped at the head of the bolt!:eek3:
so what would be the best bet the wholes should not be stripped and the bolts are not cross threaded. i have been told to drill them out but i know of easy outs which would be best to do easy out first see if it works?:bite:
is there ANY bolt sticking up to get a pliers on or even a punch and a hammer and unscrew it that way?
1jzs14
02-22-2012, 10:55 AM
no cause the pan is covering it up so i talked to my friend that is a t10 tech that help me do my swap on my supra he told me to use a bolt extractor
1jzs14
02-22-2012, 10:55 AM
what would a punch do?
CDD200
02-25-2012, 01:18 PM
hey got mine going, just went on 1st drive it is sweet, even with the s15 rear 3.69 it blew the tries away in 1-3rd, with just a 10lb spring in the wg more to come.....
1jzs14
02-26-2012, 10:01 AM
can the s14 powersteering resivior work with this swap my motor didnt come with one i would imagine it would all it is a bottle that hold fluid
JDM SPUG
02-26-2012, 10:12 AM
can the s14 powersteering resivior work with this swap my motor didnt come with one i would imagine it would all it is a bottle that hold fluid
Yes it will work. I'm using my s14 resivoir with my 2JZ swap.
bullfrogg0
02-26-2012, 10:12 AM
As long as u have the right fittings, Idk why it wouldn't work
JDM SPUG
02-26-2012, 10:18 AM
hey got mine going, just went on 1st drive it is sweet, even with the s15 rear 3.69 it blew the tries away in 1-3rd, with just a 10lb spring in the wg more to come.....
Are you running an R154? And if you are how many RPM are you cruising at in 5th gear at 65MPH?
Thanks
bullfrogg0
02-26-2012, 10:35 AM
Depends on what the rear gear is. The 5th gear ratio in r154 is .75. W58 which is the trans in my car has a 5th gear ratio of .78 and with my 180sx vlsd's 4.36 gearing and 205/60/15 tires I turn 3,000 rpm at 70 mph.
florante rea
02-26-2012, 10:50 AM
Anyone running a vvti version 2jzgte here?Seems like most of the swaps r just regular. I'm looking for more info of the newer version just in case i go with the vvti.
JDM SPUG
02-26-2012, 10:56 AM
Depends on what the rear gear is. The 5th gear ratio in r154 is .75. W58 which is the trans in my car has a 5th gear ratio of .78 and with my 180sx vlsd's 4.36 gearing and 205/60/15 tires I turn 3,000 rpm at 70 mph.
I know that's why I quotes him be use he is running an HLSD. 3.69
bullfrogg0
02-26-2012, 11:06 AM
I know that's why I quotes him be use he is running an HLSD. 3.69
Just use Google to find an rpm calculator.....
CDD200
02-26-2012, 03:11 PM
I am using the r154, my cluster is not hooked up yet, i am swapping to a jdm, it should be in this week, it does not sound like a lot of rpms ha ha, but my 245s are shot, will move up to a 285 or 315, it should help, but it was maybe half throttle, and this is with a t67, some vids are on u tube,
bullfrogg0
02-26-2012, 04:21 PM
Why would a jdm cluster make a difference?
CDD200
02-26-2012, 07:21 PM
Why would a jdm cluster make a difference?
well it will be a white face, so i do not have to change them, 7k red line closer to what the 2j is, and has 180 on the speedo, just have to adj it to read in mph, i swapped the faces on my old one and it just did not work right again (tach would not stay with the motor) this way i do not have to change anything
Deftec
03-05-2012, 09:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GU09X2mcQZw
Not sure how to embed.
Going to the track to see what she'll do in 2 weeks woooo. Hoping to get redyno'd soon and get the numbers to prove it's well into the 600's lol
bullfrogg0
03-05-2012, 09:48 PM
Try less burnouts on the dyno for more power lol.
nyquil_2
03-06-2012, 12:46 AM
Why soo low on power with C16???
I made almost the same power as you but on 93 octane and a KA24de....
alcolade
03-13-2012, 08:22 AM
Got some stuff welded up this weekend for the intercooler.
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz329/alcolade/Cars/bb3788bb.jpg
Also got the paint on the coil cover.
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz329/alcolade/Cars/6373f395.jpg
CDD200
03-13-2012, 03:33 PM
has anyone tried to pull just the trans(r154) after it has all been installed, i think my fw bolts have come loose, hate to pull motor and trans.....
bullfrogg0
03-13-2012, 06:24 PM
Best bet is gonna be to pull motor and trans as one piece
JDM SPUG
03-13-2012, 06:44 PM
has anyone tried to pull just the trans(r154) after it has all been installed, i think my fw bolts have come loose, hate to pull motor and trans.....
I pulled just the trans out after i did my swap because when I went on my first test drive i found out the clutch was done. So yes you should be able to pull just the tranny.
alcolade
03-13-2012, 07:20 PM
I'd say maybe loosen the front subframe bolts as well as motormounts depending on if you have solid mounts or what. Should make it easier to get to.
Flicktitty
03-13-2012, 07:31 PM
Why soo low on power with C16???
I made almost the same power as you but on 93 octane and a KA24de....
I'm guessing the massive amount of tire spin made the dyno read alot lower then it should have.
JDM SPUG
03-13-2012, 07:50 PM
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz329/alcolade/Cars/6373f395.jpg
did you bring that to a body shop to get painted?
alcolade
03-14-2012, 05:20 AM
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz329/alcolade/Cars/6373f395.jpg
did you bring that to a body shop to get painted?
A buddy owns a shop and his painter offered to do it. Its black with gold and prism flake on it. That flake is going in the engine bay and interior as well, just over a different color. should make it show alot more once everything is done.
HiI'mDustin
03-15-2012, 09:36 AM
Most people have seen my thread on other forums but Ill add to this one as well
Running a little rough
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http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd175/dustincarpenter1/DSC01254.jpg
http://i224.photobucket.com/albums/dd175/dustincarpenter1/IMG_20111220_161421.jpg
Mods
Engine
2jz-GTE
Chase Bays Harness(Still working through it)
Chase Bays Power steering kit
Ebay radiator
4.75 in thick Skyline R34 intercooler with custom piping
Tial BOV
Aeromotive Fuel pump
Custom exhaust
Suspension/brakes
5 lug conversion
Evo 9 Brembos with rotors for front
Q45 rear calipers and rotors
ARP Studs
HPS Pads all around
Stance Gr+ Pro coils
Spl rear upper control arms
Spl rear traction rods
Spl rear toe arms
Spl tension rods
Spl lockout kit
Spl Solid Subframe bushings
Spl Solid diff bushings
Drivetrain
R154
6 puck act clutch
findanza lightend flywheel
Q45 rear diff
300zx TT Drivers axel
Q45 pass axel
Exterior
silvia front end with bricks
Supra TT wheels
Those of you with 2J swaps into S14's or even S13's for that matter, ever had any clearance issues with your hood?
My 1.5JZ is much taller than my old 1J, and now my hood won't close. I have the Zerolift engine mount brackets. I'm skeptical to try and lower the engine any more, I don't want oil pan sitting lower than the sway bar.
nsain
03-19-2012, 06:29 PM
I have a 2jz in a s14 and mine barely clears, using eBay mounts. I remember someone saying something about how they had to shave their rubber mounts or something to clear theirs, but I think it was an s13 with a na.
jdm2191
03-19-2012, 11:19 PM
Got some stuff welded up this weekend for the intercooler.
http://i840.photobucket.com/albums/zz329/alcolade/Cars/bb3788bb.jpg
What intercooler is that?
alcolade
03-20-2012, 04:57 AM
What intercooler is that?
Its a Hybrid Dynamics or something that i just the ends on and had the long 90s welded onto it. Mostly shit i had laying around from previous setups.
HiI'mDustin
03-20-2012, 07:19 AM
Those of you with 2J swaps into S14's or even S13's for that matter, ever had any clearance issues with your hood?
My 1.5JZ is much taller than my old 1J, and now my hood won't close. I have the Zerolift engine mount brackets. I'm skeptical to try and lower the engine any more, I don't want oil pan sitting lower than the sway bar.
Pretty sure my oil pan sits below my subframe.
babillaracing
03-20-2012, 07:38 AM
mines sits pretty even with the cm (custom made mounts though)
http://i259.photobucket.com/albums/hh288/omarpuig/005-9.jpg
waste_of_space
03-20-2012, 07:55 AM
Traded my friend my SR for his near complete aristo 2jz swap. Just need wiring, and still waiting on mounts/driveshaft/shifter extension from turbo dave. That guy is wayyyyy too slow, not sure how he stays in business.
http://i39.tinypic.com/2dhzau0.jpg
http://i42.tinypic.com/f1cs60.jpg
Ordered all new valve cover stuff yesterday. Gonna do the timing belt/front main/rear main/valve cover gaskets/pulleys and everything while I continue waiting for the swap mounts. Got all the stuff I need to make the exhaust with a fancy decat too.
Can anyone say for sure which radiator hoses they used when running a KA radiator? If not I can just mock up/get rubber hoses, but was looking to get some silicone ones.
Henrietta82
03-20-2012, 08:38 AM
Such a great info.! I am in the process of swapping in a 1jz vvti. The heater hoses cleared some confusion and so does the p/s line.http://www.aahdating.com/am.jpg
Traded my friend my SR for his near complete aristo 2jz swap. Just need wiring, and still waiting on mounts/driveshaft/shifter extension from turbo dave. That guy is wayyyyy too slow, not sure how he stays in business.
Can anyone say for sure which radiator hoses they used when running a KA radiator? If not I can just mock up/get rubber hoses, but was looking to get some silicone ones.
If you need a 2J Aristo Wiring Harness/ECU, I have one. Shoot me a PM.
I used a MKIII Supra Lower Samco Hose.
For the upper, I cut the curve out of the upper water neck and made a custom hose to connect.
Super easy.
Flicktitty
03-20-2012, 11:16 AM
i used a MKIV Supra lower radiator hose, just needed to shorten it up a bit. I also cut the waterneck off and just ran to oreillys and found a hose, i'll grab the part number today.
waste_of_space
03-20-2012, 02:19 PM
Okay thank you guys!
I have the ecu and the harness, just gotta go about splicing the KA harness into it so everything else is still functional lol. Though I think my friend said one of the 3 main plugs was missing or something? The engine and stuff is sitting at my friend's house currently, but I'll take some pics of it when I swing by and do all the gaskets and stuff.
And on a random note, has anyone ever tried moving that exhaust restriction valve to control boost? I'll be running straight exhaust, but don't want crazy high boost levels because of it, so I was thinking I could build some sort of "stop" for it (almost like a throttle pulley stop) so that way it leaves it open some, but not all of the way, if that makes sense.
Edit: nevermind, that was probably a dumb question haha. I assume restricting the airflow would only control boost to the rear turbo but the front one would still be pushing more than I want it to lol
CDD200
03-21-2012, 06:53 PM
here is how mine turned out, now i just need some body work and paint, ha ha
http://i1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd437/cdd200/th_100_3923.jpg (http://s1219.photobucket.com/albums/dd437/cdd200/?action=view¤t=100_3923.jpg)
JDM SPUG
03-21-2012, 06:58 PM
HiI'mDustin
Did you have to modify anything to make the Q45 rear diff work other than the axles?
And if so what did you do?
Deftec
03-21-2012, 08:38 PM
Sorry for the late replies. Yes, the car lost a lot of power due to spinning on the dyno, haven't been back to see what it'll do now.
As for pulling the trans, you have to loosen/drop the front subframe and lower the engine a little. This allows you to get to the top bolts and turn the trans to pull it out. It's a whole lot easier than pulling everything together, and you shouldn't have to take your harness off or anything else for that matter.
Video of the cars recent runs. A 2 step will help tremendously and I'm looking to get in the 10's on the r154 before switching to a powerglide and spraying it.
s14 2.MOD - YouTube
FTlgDdygb-A
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTlgDdygb-A)
Flicktitty
03-21-2012, 08:57 PM
not a bad mph on that run. get some better tires or try really launching it and see what it will do. It's getting there man, Nice to see some of the "og" JZ swappers still around.
HiI'mDustin
03-22-2012, 08:12 AM
HiI'mDustin
Did you have to modify anything to make the Q45 rear diff work other than the axles?
And if so what did you do?
Pretty much need the diff and the axles.
Drivers side from a TT 300zx is def the hardest part to find.
Also the companion flange is different so you will have to modify it or get a custom driveshaft.
DallasTXjdm
03-24-2012, 12:52 PM
Flicktitty - Awesome thread in which it has been a great help with my build! Thank you!
JDM SPUG - digging the paint job on the valve cover! can't wait to see how the rest of the car turns out!
waste_of_space - Man before you know it your complete project will be stacked up and ready to go in that pile! I bet you're ecstatic! lol
aled - Thanks for the info you PM'd! I appreciate it bro!!!
CDD200 - Do you have any larger pictures of your engine bay? Which intake manifold is that?
Deftec - Are you going with methanol inject? If so, which kit are you looking at? Sweet MPH by the way that's definitely 10s right there. What was your 60' and what tires were you running?
HiI'mDustin - How are you liking the SPL suspension?
waste_of_space
03-25-2012, 08:18 AM
Yessir! Got my mounts and shifter extension yesterday! All that's left is the driveshaft! Found a good lead on a harness so that's taken care of as well (:
Anyone else have trouble breaking their crank pulley loose?! Lol
Today I'll be doing the timing belt/tensioner/front&rear mains/cam seals/ valve cover gaskets and swapping the waterpump out and dropping the motor in!
Deftec
03-25-2012, 12:23 PM
No meth. That's on c16 and 23psi. My 60' times sucked ass(2.0 was my best) and I'm on 255 BFG's. It'll be getting a powerglide/spray/bigger turbo soon, so hopefully it'll be in single digits with some decent tires by then.
For hoses, I used the KA lower hose and cut the end off a little. The upper hose you can use an IS300 hose.
CDD200
03-26-2012, 07:09 PM
Dallas-idk how to make them any bigger, anyone that could help, is it something i do here or with photobucket??
stock intake just cleaned and clear coated
Flicktitty
03-26-2012, 07:19 PM
slightly newer picture of the engine bay, still not done, awaiting a new turbo....
I re-did the upper waterneck, as i didn't like the "s" bend in the hose, this looks much better imo.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/IMG_0933-1.jpg
some better shots of the heater hoses you can use on the 2JZ-240sx.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/IMG_0930.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/IMG_0929.jpg
Memberofthe600hpkaclub
03-26-2012, 08:21 PM
http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss125/Ernie_Mac/IMG_9877.jpg
Does anyone know what happened to this car? My buddy Ryan built it then sold it to some mexican guy in texas that was buying it for his 16yo son...then he disappeared
1jzs14
03-26-2012, 10:41 PM
no meth. That's on c16 and 23psi. My 60' times sucked ass(2.0 was my best) and i'm on 255 bfg's. It'll be getting a powerglide/spray/bigger turbo soon, so hopefully it'll be in single digits with some decent tires by then.
For hoses, i used the ka lower hose and cut the end off a little. The upper hose you can use an is300 hose.
are you running a full stand alone or piggy back?
Deftec
03-26-2012, 11:12 PM
AEM V2
Flick your engine bay is incredibly clean lol. I'm jealous.
SinCityS14
03-27-2012, 12:27 AM
Whats up guys?! Great thread!! i just got my 2j shipped, i started the tear down by taking the spark plugs out when i found out that they were drenched in oil.....Hopefully its only the valve cover gasket.... my ecu and ignitor wasent shipped either...any who awesome pics, ill be keeping you guys posted!
Flicktitty
03-27-2012, 08:22 AM
http://i568.photobucket.com/albums/ss125/Ernie_Mac/IMG_9877.jpg
Does anyone know what happened to this car? My buddy Ryan built it then sold it to some mexican guy in texas that was buying it for his 16yo son...then he disappeared
i always wondered what happened to this car as well. People need to realize there is no reason a 16 year old kid has a car with anywhere near that kind of horsepower.
AEM V2
Flick your engine bay is incredibly clean lol. I'm jealous.
Thank's man, been trying to keep the engine bay looking good.
nsain
03-27-2012, 06:59 PM
Pretty much need the diff and the axles.
Drivers side from a TT 300zx is def the hardest part to find.
Also the companion flange is different so you will have to modify it or get a custom driveshaft.
I think for your q45 diff to work you also needed the q45 or z32tt rear hubs right? You mentioned something about 5 lug conversion but wasn't specific to the hub so I was just curious.
1jzs14
03-27-2012, 10:35 PM
AEM V2
Flick your engine bay is incredibly clean lol. I'm jealous.
does that have the ability for a two step not fimilar with that stand alone
Whats up guys?! Great thread!! i just got my 2j shipped, i started the tear down by taking the spark plugs out when i found out that they were drenched in oil.....Hopefully its only the valve cover gasket.... my ecu and ignitor wasent shipped either...any who awesome pics, ill be keeping you guys posted!
some motor importers put auto trans fluid in the to keep them from seizing up
1jzs14
03-27-2012, 10:37 PM
so i finally got my 1jz in my motor bay for some reason im having motor clearance issues with the hood do i need to cut the support for the hood?
Deftec
03-28-2012, 11:24 AM
What mounts are you using? You shouldn't have any issues with fitment.
ta2dpnoy
03-28-2012, 06:50 PM
off topic but im in need of help. i need someone to do a 1jz vvti harness from scratch that will go into an s14, since i didn't get my harness and money back from sean palmquist. any help would be appreciated!
thanks
Flicktitty
03-28-2012, 07:26 PM
best bet would be Chasebays, as they do full custom harness from scratch, most other people will want a core.
1JZS14 - The Version 2 AEM EMS has 2step function, And what mounts do you have?
ta2dpnoy
03-28-2012, 07:46 PM
best bet would be Chasebays, as they do full custom harness from scratch, most other people will want a core.
1JZS14 - The Version 2 AEM EMS has 2step function, And what mounts do you have?
I called them and they said they don't do vvti harnesses. i am stuck :(
florante rea
03-28-2012, 09:11 PM
Chasebays still not 100% with their 2jzgte harneses. I talked to dustin, he bought the chasebays harness and his having problems. Try calling ben @freedengineering:)
ta2dpnoy
03-28-2012, 10:12 PM
Chasebays still not 100% with their 2jzgte harneses. I talked to dustin, he bought the chasebays harness and his having problems. Try calling ben @freedengineering:)
Will do! Thank you! hopefully he can make me one.
1jzs14
03-28-2012, 11:19 PM
What mounts are you using? You shouldn't have any issues with fitment.
problem i fixed it while in my college math class i was using supra mounts instead i should of used 240 mounts (i bought the kit three years ago couldnt remember which mount i needed!):picardfp:
SinCityS14
03-30-2012, 06:13 PM
Guys i need help...my so called jdm 2j has what appears to be a usdm water pump already with pulley and studs....i was under the impression that all jdm 2jz had different types of WP compared to the us WP is this correct or are their exceptions?
JDM SPUG
03-30-2012, 06:26 PM
Guys i need help...my so called jdm 2j has what appears to be a usdm water pump already with pulley and studs....i was under the impression that all jdm 2jz had different types of WP compared to the us WP is this correct or are their exceptions?
I have a JDM 2j and i replaced the JDM WP with a USDM.
SinCityS14
03-30-2012, 06:34 PM
^^ right so if my jdm 2j that i got came with a usdm water pump does that mean that some one messed with it here?? I bought it from zerolift expecting a legit jdm 2j.
JDM SPUG
03-30-2012, 06:40 PM
^ I couldn't say. but with you already having a US pump saves you the trouble from having to replace it because you can't use the JDM 1 in a swap.
SinCityS14
03-30-2012, 06:52 PM
True i guess my biggest concern is getting sold something that is not....in this case a jdm....and or having a jdm engine that was being used by some one here in the states and then sold to me as a "jdm" if that makes sense.
JDM SPUG
03-30-2012, 07:54 PM
True i guess my biggest concern is getting sold something that is not....in this case a jdm....and or having a jdm engine that was being used by some one here in the states and then sold to me as a "jdm" if that makes sense.
nothing to worry about. ZEROLIFT has a pretty good rep.
DallasTXjdm
03-30-2012, 10:49 PM
No meth. That's on c16 and 23psi. My 60' times sucked ass(2.0 was my best) and I'm on 255 BFG's. It'll be getting a powerglide/spray/bigger turbo soon, so hopefully it'll be in single digits with some decent tires by then.
For hoses, I used the KA lower hose and cut the end off a little. The upper hose you can use an IS300 hose.
Thanks for the tip bro. Keep us updated on the new times! Have you beefed up your rear?
Dallas-idk how to make them any bigger, anyone that could help, is it something i do here or with photobucket??
stock intake just cleaned and clear coated
Good job man! From far away it looks like an aftermarket IM.
slightly newer picture of the engine bay, still not done, awaiting a new turbo....
:drool: Beautiful engine bay! Which radiator did you go with? I like the way the radiator hose is setup compared to the "S" setup. Also which turbo are you dropping in her?
Chasebays still not 100% with their 2jzgte harneses. I talked to dustin, he bought the chasebays harness and his having problems.
Just curious, what outstanding issues was he experiencing with the CB harness?
True i guess my biggest concern is getting sold something that is not....in this case a jdm....and or having a jdm engine that was being used by some one here in the states and then sold to me as a "jdm" if that makes sense.
I am in the same boat as you SinCityS14. Looks like there's a USDM water pump already on my engine too. I am not going to take any chances. I haved ordered a new one for just piece of mind. :)
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As far as my 2JZ project.... I am still piecing it together. Right now I am focus on trying to locate a driveshaft. Can you guys recommend a reputiable shop? I have a Getrag 6sp mated with a Q45 rear.
waste_of_space
03-31-2012, 08:50 AM
Guys that are worried about the engines being "jdm" or not, check to see if there's an oil level sensor in the oil pan (looking at the front of the engine, will be on the lower right). This was only offered on luxury vehicles (I.e. jdm aristos) and check the number plate that should have been shipped with your motor (mine was taped to my ecu). Jzs147 is an aristo.
But regardless, what does it matter if it's jdm or not? Like others have said, if it's a 2j and is jdm it would have a hydrofan setup and you'd have to buy a complete (front and back half) usdm waterpump anyways.
The motor I got (which my friend got from zerolift) was supposed to be a front sump swapped supra motor, but ended up being an aristo motor. So they lied to him and he had to purchase a full water pump (he had already purchased the front half since that's all he should have needed). And when he called them to see if they could help him out they basically said tough shit, buy a full waterpump and get aftermarket pullies. I won't ever deal with zerolift.
SinCityS14
03-31-2012, 10:25 AM
The motor I got (which my friend got from zerolift) was supposed to be a front sump swapped supra motor, but ended up being an aristo motor. So they lied to him and he had to purchase a full water pump (he had already purchased the front half since that's all he should have needed). And when he called them to see if they could help him out they basically said tough shit, buy a full waterpump and get aftermarket pullies. I won't ever deal with zerolift.
Not worried about it being jdm or usdm, its a 2j in any case. sure there are differences between em but in the end its a 2j. My concern is in this case said company saying its selling you something that is not. i know this is not a review thread and by no means do i mean to highjack this thread, just kinda wanted to shed some light on i guess purchasing an engine through zerolift. because they do have a rep to maintain but from the reviews ive been seeing its a hit or miss process with them.:bash: oh well in any case ill just drop the discussion and deal with the outcome.
Flicktitty
04-02-2012, 11:06 AM
:drool: Beautiful engine bay! Which radiator did you go with? I like the way the radiator hose is setup compared to the "S" setup. Also which turbo are you dropping in her?
It's a Koyo radiator for a S13 (KA24DE) With Flex-a-lite fans.
BadazzSr20
04-02-2012, 01:26 PM
so im doing my 1j swap into my 97 240sx kouki. so far things are moving right along. i just wanted to ask you guys what trany mount are u running for the 97 kouki?
from what i heard the 89 mk3 supra trany mount is diffrent from the 91+ supra mount. can someone fill me in on what supra it is that will work for my car.
this is a great write up lets keep the info comming!!!
ta2dpnoy
04-02-2012, 05:49 PM
It's a Koyo radiator for a S13 (KA24DE) With Flex-a-lite fans.
how did you modify the upper water neck? did you just cut the "bend" part?
Flicktitty
04-02-2012, 06:10 PM
how did you modify the upper water neck? did you just cut the "bend" part?
yeap, just looked at roughly where i wanted it to be, and cut it off with a cutoff wheel.
figure i'll post a slightly better pic.
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y47/flicktitty/300sx/IMG_1027.jpg
CDD200
04-02-2012, 06:51 PM
put some new vids up on youtube, 2jz swap 240sx s14 burn out take off 10 lbs spring - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RDXgSRp-SQk&feature=relmfu) they are short and i am still working out the bugs, but it is running good @ 10lbs, time to turn it up, but i do need better tires and wider wheels, had it spinning in 1st-4th the other day, thats just stupid lol, flick how do you get the pics so big??
Flicktitty
04-02-2012, 07:14 PM
photobucket.com make a name if you don't already have one. upload the pictures from your computer then once its uploaded use the [IMG] tag to post on the forums.
Redline_GT
04-02-2012, 11:40 PM
Guys that are worried about the engines being "jdm" or not, check to see if there's an oil level sensor in the oil pan (looking at the front of the engine, will be on the lower right). This was only offered on luxury vehicles (I.e. jdm aristos) and check the number plate that should have been shipped with your motor (mine was taped to my ecu). Jzs147 is an aristo.
But regardless, what does it matter if it's jdm or not? Like others have said, if it's a 2j and is jdm it would have a hydrofan setup and you'd have to buy a complete (front and back half) usdm waterpump anyways.
The motor I got (which my friend got from zerolift) was supposed to be a front sump swapped supra motor, but ended up being an aristo motor. So they lied to him and he had to purchase a full water pump (he had already purchased the front half since that's all he should have needed). And when he called them to see if they could help him out they basically said tough shit, buy a full waterpump and get aftermarket pullies. I won't ever deal with zerolift.
Hey Waste, I ordered from Turbodave like you, but yet have to see them. Just for giggles, would you mind sharing how long it took you from payment to receiving the parts? I ordered on November 2011. Can not for the life of me get a hold of him, and if I do, I get told it is almost done and should be on it way soon. Any insight would be great :)
waste_of_space
04-03-2012, 12:27 PM
Hey Waste, I ordered from Turbodave like you, but yet have to see them. Just for giggles, would you mind sharing how long it took you from payment to receiving the parts? I ordered on November 2011. Can not for the life of me get a hold of him, and if I do, I get told it is almost done and should be on it way soon. Any insight would be great :)
Damn that long?!
Mounts/shifter extension/driveshaft were ordered at the beginning of feb and the mounts and the shifter extension got here at the end of march.
I'm still waiting on the driveshaft though, who knows how long it'll take.
Try using the 240atlanta forums to get ahold of him, make a review thread about him and complain and I'm sure you'll be able to get in touch with him.
2muchboost
04-03-2012, 12:41 PM
Anybody have more pix of that Flat Red 240 on Pg 8? I agree that a kid should not be driving something with that much power. That thing was built to the ballz
I had the pictures from the guys for sale thread but once I switched jobs I lost them all. That was one of the cleanest and sickest 2j swaps I have seen done to date. That was actually the car that got me motivated to begin my project. Just hope it turns out 1/2 as clean and complete as that swap.
ta2dpnoy
04-04-2012, 08:21 PM
I don't know if you all care, but i'd just like to mention that Ben from Freed Engineering has found me a 1jz vvti harness for $450 and he'll do the conversion for $500. I really thought I was stuck or have to pay a huge amount of money for someome to make me one from scratch. Thanks to florante rea for mentioning Freed Engineering!
Memberofthe600hpkaclub
04-04-2012, 10:46 PM
Anybody have more pix of that Flat Red 240 on Pg 8? I agree that a kid should not be driving something with that much power. That thing was built to the ballz
I had the pictures from the guys for sale thread but once I switched jobs I lost them all. That was one of the cleanest and sickest 2j swaps I have seen done to date. That was actually the car that got me motivated to begin my project. Just hope it turns out 1/2 as clean and complete as that swap.
Pm me your number and ill have him send you them
BadazzSr20
04-04-2012, 10:54 PM
I don't know if you all care, but i'd just like to mention that Ben from Freed Engineering has found me a 1jz vvti harness for $450 and he'll do the conversion for $500. I really thought I was stuck or have to pay a huge amount of money for someome to make me one from scratch. Thanks to florante rea for mentioning Freed Engineering!
i just sent him my 1jz harness and sr harness i heard lot of great things about him. ill be talking to him about my harness tomorrow that's when FedEx says he will get it.
so far every time i talked to him hes been a really straight up guy and his prices beats everyone out there from what i have talked to him about so far.
i haven't seen his work but the feeling i get from just talking to him im sure i wont be disappointed at all!!!
ill fill u all in once i get my harness back from him
Flipnirish
04-05-2012, 08:18 PM
He did my harness for my swap and everything looked great. He even labeled all the wires. High quality work and would recommend him to anyone.
florante rea
04-06-2012, 06:57 AM
Yeah Ben is good. I'm actually getting all my 2j swap kit from him.
Can anyone confirm what to look for on actual r154 transmission? I just received mine and just wanted to make sure i bought one, hope its not w58.
ta2dpnoy
04-06-2012, 07:48 AM
Yeah Ben is good. I'm actually getting all my 2j swap kit from him.
Can anyone confirm what to look for on actual r154 transmission? I just received mine and just wanted to make sure i bought one, hope its not w58.
here you go
W58 vs R154 Gearbox Specification (http://users.tpg.com.au/users/loats/technical/ma61/gearboxes2.html)
or post pic of your transmission.
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