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Old 07-17-2008, 07:37 PM   #91
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What i am curiuos about is how is that legal, how can cars be searched when they are not doing anything wrong? I understand if they were actually street racing, but if they are just sitting in a parking lot, how can cops legally search their cars without warrants?
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What about Florida? My mom and sister live in Tampa and its kinda like California except without as many wierdos, and no lame automotive laws.
pretty sure florida is cool, he was just sticking up for cali and giving the pros about living here since alot of people tend to judge cali for its strict auto laws.
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pretty sure florida is cool, he was just sticking up for cali and giving the pros about living here since alot of people tend to judge cali for its strict auto laws.
Right I understand that it just seems to me Florida has all the (or most of)benefits of Cali without the bullshit.
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Right I understand that it just seems to me Florida has all the (or most of)benefits of Cali without the bullshit.
Except the fact that it has tropical humidity.

Fuck humidity in it's stupid ass.

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What i am curiuos about is how is that legal, how can cars be searched when they are not doing anything wrong? I understand if they were actually street racing, but if they are just sitting in a parking lot, how can cops legally search their cars without warrants?
Because they are equipment infractions, not criminal searches. They don't count for points like a moving violation and unless your stuff is stolen, they can't arrest you. It's like having a headlight out or no front plate - you can be pulled over.

Although in this particular situation, the cops said that there was evidence of street racing, so that is how they were able to search.

My opinion about busting these types of meets: look at Oakland sideshows. They used to occur in side parking lots, hence the "side." When Oakland passed a new law requiring lot owners to chain the lots at night, the sideshows ended up on the street. Waaaay to go.

It was the same for graffiti in SF. There used to be a spot called Psycho City. As Mayor, Feinstein had the bright idea to close it. The result: graffiti spilled all over the neighborhoods.

I think as long as people aren't doing anything overtly wrong, the cops should let them be. But this is a revenue maneuver, so that's most likely why they did it.


Some things never change. Cops messing with modified cars goes back to when young people could finally get cars. Once kids could get ahold of used model t's and other hot rods, they'd modify them and the cops would mess with them. Name a decade when the cops didn't mess with modified cars. Lowriders in the 60's and 70's got messed with ALL THE TIME. I think that's where the "soda can test" came from. My dad went through the same shit when he had a 67 Malibu in the early 70's. Look at popular culture like movies such as American Graffiti: kids driving used cars that they fixed up, running from the cops trying to race/cruise girls. (Hell, the nerd lived the car enthusiast's dream: he actually got a girl.) It's funny, because as each generation grows up, the new generation gets fucked with. I'd be willing to bet that 15-20 years from now (if our economy doesn't meltdown from oil) that you could drive a loud ass s chassis and the cops would look at you and remember the good old days.



And as far as the east coast west coast thing. What is this? The source awards? They are advantages/drawbacks to east, west, north, south and midwest. If all the places were the same it would suck. It would be like eating the same thing every day. Stop hating, because although you may have 93 octane and $75,000.00 houses, we have things that you don't. As a Northern Californian, I have to say that I like living here.

Cons:
- draconian smog laws
- nothing is legal in terms of car mods
- rampant car thefts
- DiFi-led weapons bans
- Million dollar fixer-upper houses
- It's damn expensive
- Tons and tons of people (traffic)

Pros:
- world class surfing and snowboarding within 3 hours of each other
- plenty of jobs, high pay
- Great weather overall
- Many aftermarket parts cos. are based here
- We're closer to Japan than 45 other states
- Diversity
- Tons and tons of people (girls)

We have smog laws because we are the most populous state and until we had these laws, the air sucked. True, we have some of the most polluted air in the country - but imagine how bad it would be without those laws! If you live in a state without emissions, be prepared for smog laws because they are bound to happen. I'm not some Inconvenient Truth conspiracist, but I do think we need to do something about the environment. Check out this map of CO2 producers, and you'll see why I think smog laws are coming to a neighborhood near you:

http://news.uns.purdue.edu/x/2008a/0...neyVulcan.html
The east coast emits waaay more CO2 than CA.

As far as car theives and expensive houses: of course we have those because there are so many people here. We are the foreclosure capital because we are the most populous state, which means we have more of everything. That just comes with the territory. More people = more possibilities of hot girls. But also more problems because there's more stupid people to fuck it up for the rest of us. Here's an excerpt of an article about car thefts:
http://finance.yahoo.com/family-home/article/105401/America's-Car-Theft-Hot-Spots
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"One huge factor is that there are more vehicles in California than any other state, making it a target-rich environment to begin with," says Frank Scafidi, NICB spokesman. "The proximity to international borders and seaports is also a factor. Both are widely used in the illegal exportation of stolen vehicles."

But the main attractions are the car theft hot spots conveniently located near the Mexican border. A quick trip across and crooks can quickly unload stolen cars--or their parts--without hassle or question. That's why Texas, New Mexico and Arizona are "all high-theft states" as well, Scafidi notes.
The gist: because we have more people than anybody else, problems are magnified. We have more cars, which means more smog - so we have those laws. Because we have tons of people, things like assault weapons cause problems, so they are severly restricted. Like it or not, we also a bellwether state.

So can we stop all the Cali bashing? Please?
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Right I understand that it just seems to me Florida has all the (or most of)benefits of Cali without the bullshit.

We don't have hurricanes. But we do have earthquakes...

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This sucks that this thread is becoming a east vs. west thing. Give it up people.

Police crackdowns such as these is why I'm going Ls1. If I get messed with I can get it smogged no prob. Hell, the cop might even be impressed seeing a small block in the s13 bay.

There is always loop holes in the system. I think more people are going to feel the crunch as time goes on and start swapping in usdm motors more like VQ, Ls1, (etc). If I can't swap my 205 hp sr20det then fine, I'll just install a 325 hp Ls1.

I know cost is a issue so those looking for more power can install the Greddy smog legal turbo kit on there ka24 and the next time the fuzz pops your hood you can shove that carb # up his ass.
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get out of here with this rap east vs west coast shit

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