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lflkajfj12123 · 07-15-2008, 01:23 PM

http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/23/2302.asp

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California: Police Raid Car Enthusiast Gathering, Generate Revenue
Police raid Riverside, California parking lot to issue modified car tickets at local car enthusiast gathering.

Nine police agencies in Riverside, California sent more than one hundred police officers to surround a gathering of automotive enthusiasts. Owners of imported sport compact cars had gathered at the Canyon Crossing shopping center on Friday night to swap stories, talk about their passion for cars and show off the latest enhancements to their rides. At around 11pm police surprised participants by blocking all exits with fifty police cruisers. Officers then began a warrantless search and interrogation operation of the 150 vehicles that were present.

"If you're not into street racing, why would you need that?" Riverside Police Traffic Sergeant Skip Showalter asked an enthusiast during a similar crackdown last year. "Why would you want more power going to your car?"

Police issued a total of forty-eight tickets for "engine modifications" with police accusing the owners of the parked vehicles of being street racers. Another fifty tickets were issued for paperwork violations, dark window tinting and lack of a front license plate. The most revenue, however, will be generated from the fees imposed on twenty vehicles that were confiscated. Despite labeling the parking lot raid as taking place at a "street racing venue," Riverside Police offered no evidence that any street racing actually took place.

Across the state, gas tax funds are regularly used to fund similar crackdowns that generate big revenue. In 2004, the California Highway Patrol issued a total of 101,553 "modified car" citations worth $10.5 million according to CHP data obtained by TheNewspaper.

In 2005, the California Office of Traffic Safety handed Riverside Police $400,000 in state and federal gas tax revenue for the "establishment of a regional task force to conduct enforcement operations targeting street racing, modified vehicles and speed contests," according to the Riverside Police Department's June 2007 Chief's Report. The department received another $503,268 grant for selective enforcement efforts in 2008. The other agencies that participated in the raid include the California Highway Patrol, Riverside County Sheriff's Department, and police from Baldwin Park, Fontana, Irwindale, Moreno Valley, Ontario and Mount San Jacinto Community College.

old news but if a cop ever said that to me

90hatchie · 07-15-2008, 01:27 PM

and this is why i liuve on the east coast lol

Bobafreak · 07-15-2008, 01:32 PM

lol falcon punch! ok back to topic....no falcon punch.

2Slow40 · 07-15-2008, 01:35 PM

Cliff Notes: Don't live in Cali

BBSilvia · 07-15-2008, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Bobafreak

lol falcon punch! ok back to topic....no falcon punch.

Bobafreak · 07-15-2008, 01:46 PM

hahaha yessss! +rep

stiizy · 07-15-2008, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 90hatchie

and this is why i liuve on the east coast lol

Me too yorktown cops are only dicks at night i noticed like if you got exhaust and are on the 202 they love to fuck with you and staties on 9..

When i lived in cali i loved how i never got tickets because of my NY plates they didn't do shit....

Except give me a 350$ littering fine for flickin my cig out the window saying i could start a fire at the beach parking lot, water? sand? fire how??

BustedS13 · 07-15-2008, 01:49 PM

that's such a stupid argument... chevy makes a 500 horsepower car, honda makes motorcycles that can do like 200mph, and that's from the factory.

then again it's a great point. it's like a stoner with a car full of bongs and issues of high times. fuck yeah i'm going to search your dumb ass.

ravinaziankid · 07-15-2008, 01:51 PM

That's pretty stupid, why does it matter what you do with your own property. I want to see a cop come up to me and ask me why I dress nicely or why I need an ipod or psp. This seems very illegal and a waste of cali tax payer's money. I hope they get sued by all those who were ticketed and the police learn from this. Even though that would mean more money from the tax payers, but they will probably think twice before doing this again. Seems like Cali is in some kind of dictatorship or communist country state of mind. What's next? Take your home away because you repaired it and remodeled it? Just crazy.

stiizy · 07-15-2008, 01:53 PM

Craziest thing i ever seen in the east is they ask you to pop your hood to run your engine VIN to see if it's stolen or not...

RiversideS13 · 07-15-2008, 02:10 PM

that is why i never go to meeting again

muddafakka · 07-15-2008, 02:39 PM

Car enthusiasts getting the shit end of the stick...what else is new.

Glad I don't live in Cali.

I wonder what those cops drive off duty.

Oh yeah, front plates suck balls.

ESmorz · 07-15-2008, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by muddafakka

Car enthusiasts getting the shit end of the stick...what else is new.

Glad I don't live in Cali.

I wonder what those cops drive off duty.

Mustangs

Camaro's

POS wagons

Minivans

driftphenom · 07-15-2008, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 90hatchie

and this is why i liuve on the east coast lol

east coast FTW!!!

slothonaleash · 07-15-2008, 02:50 PM

That's really unfortunate

Well, I live in Ohio.

I can rip past police officers with my buddy club spec II, a couple inches from the ground, blaring August Burns Red, wearing a beanie... and they don't give me a second look.

Cliff notes:

Move to Ohio.

90hatchie · 07-15-2008, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stiizy

Me too yorktown cops are only dicks at night i noticed like if you got exhaust and are on the 202 they love to fuck with you and staties on 9..

When i lived in cali i loved how i never got tickets because of my NY plates they didn't do shit....

Except give me a 350$ littering fine for flickin my cig out the window saying i could start a fire at the beach parking lot, water? sand? fire how??

i dont seem to have a problem with yorktown cops
and i rip on it passing idiots infront of the police station coming out of town

ESmorz · 07-15-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by slothonaleash

That's really unfortunate

Well, I live in Ohio.

I can rip past police officers with my buddy club spec II, a couple inches from the ground, blaring August Burns Red, wearing a beanie... and they don't give me a second look.

Cliff notes:

Move to Ohio.

vs

JayDee M Rolly · 07-15-2008, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

vs

LOL seriously. +repped

svensko · 07-15-2008, 02:58 PM

I wonder how many of those car owners are posting on their home forums right now...

"Yo dawgs i gotz mah 240 conficated cuz i was ridin wit a engene that i new wuz illegal fer 4 yeras. NE1 got sum advise"

90hatchie · 07-15-2008, 02:59 PM

VS

Quail · 07-15-2008, 02:59 PM

You guys definitely have it bad over there. The police usually leave us alone unless we have clear illegal modifications (over tinted windows, etc), or if people are literally racing on the street. Otherwise, no evidence, no crime. I've been pulled over a couple times. One time I was driving too fast on a backroad late at night. The officers liked my car, could see I was driving quickly, but safely, so let me off.
The other time I got pulled over whilst I was trying to catch up with an Evo (not racing - but driving quickly). The traffic cop gave me a $60 fine for an illegal license plate (not vertically mounted), and let me on my way.

slothonaleash · 07-15-2008, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ESmorz

vs

hahahaha agreed ten-fold... there is SHIT to do here

I live in the suburbs though so no horses here, no beaches or suns either.

Mi Beardo es Loco · 07-15-2008, 03:24 PM

Looking into the grand scheme of things, this is a great way for the state to make cash. Cops are ordered to do stuff like this. Some might be huge fans of import cars and the scene but they have to do their jobs. But the statement "If you're not into street racing, why would you need that?" is pretty stupid because modding cars have been around since the 30's. It must be the worst known secret because this guy must be totally oblivious to this. Trucks get lifted, so would I have to assume that they will be illegally off-roading? Would I then be legally able to place that guy under arrest? nope. But why the difference with with us?
Then again, why would anyone do an unorganized meet anymore? It's just stupid. It's like Batman having a sign in front of the secret batcave saying "batcave this way."

adictd2b00st · 07-15-2008, 03:27 PM

stereotypes at their best....

i don't know if west coast is so much different, but out "meets" are always a mixed crowd of domestics/imports we all get along because we are all car enthusiasts in the end. is that not the case there? i'd be suprised if they gave domestic owners the same treatment.....

an_orange_s2k · 07-15-2008, 03:28 PM

there was a big crackdown on street racing in oakland a little while back. c'mon now i think they should be focusing all their power towards the murders and drugs first. but thats just my opinion

*exitspeed* · 07-15-2008, 03:35 PM

That really sucks. Those cops are idiots.

Now saying that ALL those people were there to street race, is like saying all cops are corrupt. That shit pisses me the fuck off.

dynamicck · 07-15-2008, 03:38 PM

Typical summer days in So Cal beaches.
-1 for cops
+1000 for females

ronmcdon · 07-15-2008, 03:40 PM

Not all of CA is that awful. Los Angeles county is actually fairly lenient (knock on wood). I think I've only got pulled over twice for no front license plate. I used to live in the East Bay Area (norcal), San Francisco, and San Diego. For the most part, it wasn't bad at all.

OC, on the other hand is downright notorious for that sort of thing, and so is the inland empire area. Should you choose to live down there, don't be surprised stuff like this can happen, because it does. IIRC, there was another thread a few months ago about something similar in the same area. also another meet that got busted with rampant impounds.

shmiddy · 07-15-2008, 03:43 PM

damn they go hard on the west side

ronmcdon · 07-15-2008, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dynamicck

Typical summer days in So Cal beaches.
-1 for cops
+1000 for females

Yeah, but we're talking about Riverside here. Most of what you see down there are fatties with strollers.
Even Los Angeles is getting pretty bad these days.

07-15-2008, 01:32 PM	#3
Bobafreak Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 909 Posts: 2,207 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	lol falcon punch! ok back to topic....no falcon punch. __________________ *VIOLENT RUNNING TRIBE* "Love is god, hatin is satin!"

07-15-2008, 01:46 PM	#6
Bobafreak Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 909 Posts: 2,207 Trader Rating: (17) Feedback Score: 17 reviews	hahaha yessss! +rep __________________ *VIOLENT RUNNING TRIBE* "Love is god, hatin is satin!"

07-15-2008, 01:49 PM	#8
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that's such a stupid argument... chevy makes a 500 horsepower car, honda makes motorcycles that can do like 200mph, and that's from the factory. then again it's a great point. it's like a stoner with a car full of bongs and issues of high times. fuck yeah i'm going to search your dumb ass. __________________

07-15-2008, 02:58 PM	#19
svensko Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 444 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wonder how many of those car owners are posting on their home forums right now... "Yo dawgs i gotz mah 240 conficated cuz i was ridin wit a engene that i new wuz illegal fer 4 yeras. NE1 got sum advise" __________________ Respect begets respect.

07-15-2008, 02:59 PM	#21
Quail Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: UK Age: 34 Posts: 1,378 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	You guys definitely have it bad over there. The police usually leave us alone unless we have clear illegal modifications (over tinted windows, etc), or if people are literally racing on the street. Otherwise, no evidence, no crime. I've been pulled over a couple times. One time I was driving too fast on a backroad late at night. The officers liked my car, could see I was driving quickly, but safely, so let me off. The other time I got pulled over whilst I was trying to catch up with an Evo (not racing - but driving quickly). The traffic cop gave me a $60 fine for an illegal license plate (not vertically mounted), and let me on my way. __________________

07-15-2008, 01:27 PM	#2
90hatchie Banned from the Marketplace Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: yorktown hts ny Age: 32 Posts: 2,984 Trader Rating: (15) Feedback Score: 15 reviews	and this is why i liuve on the east coast lol

07-15-2008, 01:35 PM	#4
2Slow40 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: CA Age: 34 Posts: 522 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	Cliff Notes: Don't live in Cali

07-15-2008, 01:51 PM	#9
ravinaziankid Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: NYC Age: 38 Posts: 394 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's pretty stupid, why does it matter what you do with your own property. I want to see a cop come up to me and ask me why I dress nicely or why I need an ipod or psp. This seems very illegal and a waste of cali tax payer's money. I hope they get sued by all those who were ticketed and the police learn from this. Even though that would mean more money from the tax payers, but they will probably think twice before doing this again. Seems like Cali is in some kind of dictatorship or communist country state of mind. What's next? Take your home away because you repaired it and remodeled it? Just crazy.

07-15-2008, 01:53 PM	#10
stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 39 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Craziest thing i ever seen in the east is they ask you to pop your hood to run your engine VIN to see if it's stolen or not...

07-15-2008, 02:10 PM	#11
RiversideS13 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Diamond Bar, CA Age: 39 Posts: 1,545 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that is why i never go to meeting again

07-15-2008, 02:39 PM	#12
muddafakka Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Fugitive on the run Posts: 1,087 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Car enthusiasts getting the shit end of the stick...what else is new. Glad I don't live in Cali. I wonder what those cops drive off duty. Oh yeah, front plates suck balls.

07-15-2008, 02:50 PM	#15
slothonaleash Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Columbus, Ohio Age: 29 Posts: 745 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	That's really unfortunate Well, I live in Ohio. I can rip past police officers with my buddy club spec II, a couple inches from the ground, blaring August Burns Red, wearing a beanie... and they don't give me a second look. Cliff notes: Move to Ohio.

07-15-2008, 03:27 PM	#24
adictd2b00st Zilvia Addict Join Date: May 2003 Location: NY Age: 39 Posts: 691 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	stereotypes at their best.... i don't know if west coast is so much different, but out "meets" are always a mixed crowd of domestics/imports we all get along because we are all car enthusiasts in the end. is that not the case there? i'd be suprised if they gave domestic owners the same treatment.....

07-15-2008, 03:28 PM	#25
an_orange_s2k Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: SF Bay Area - Mile High Denver Posts: 1,555 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	there was a big crackdown on street racing in oakland a little while back. c'mon now i think they should be focusing all their power towards the murders and drugs first. but thats just my opinion

07-15-2008, 03:35 PM	#26
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	That really sucks. Those cops are idiots. Now saying that ALL those people were there to street race, is like saying all cops are corrupt. That shit pisses me the fuck off. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

07-15-2008, 03:38 PM	#27
dynamicck Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: HB Posts: 406 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	Typical summer days in So Cal beaches. -1 for cops +1000 for females

07-15-2008, 03:40 PM	#28
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Not all of CA is that awful. Los Angeles county is actually fairly lenient (knock on wood). I think I've only got pulled over twice for no front license plate. I used to live in the East Bay Area (norcal), San Francisco, and San Diego. For the most part, it wasn't bad at all. OC, on the other hand is downright notorious for that sort of thing, and so is the inland empire area. Should you choose to live down there, don't be surprised stuff like this can happen, because it does. IIRC, there was another thread a few months ago about something similar in the same area. also another meet that got busted with rampant impounds.

07-15-2008, 03:43 PM	#29
shmiddy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: nyc Age: 36 Posts: 1,279 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	damn they go hard on the west side __________________ i fully de-volved

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