PhilthyS13

Yeah, but it's still all CA. It's not like smog blowing up from TJ or from NJ to NY. That's the very reason that those laws were enacted, it has everything to do with LA polluting the surrounding area aka the rest of California. We just have too many people (hence ludicrous real estate prices).

If you live in the middle of nowhere (Trinity), the only time you have to smog is transfer of ownership. So it matters which county you live in.


Lol, you said that Bakersfield is "number two."

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4thHorse

Is it true that places high north in cali don't smog there cars. I was told places like napa don't have to smog.

racepar1

What idiot told you that!!!??? The smog laws are the same for the whole STATE!

soreballz

Truth.

Again, truth.

WRONG. You can't *legally* pass smog in say, a '92 Civic Si hatch with a B16 in it, even if its a 100% stock motor from a '99 Si coupe, UNLESS IT IS BAR-APPROVED. ANYTIME you swap ANY motor than is not the OEM engine for that particular year, it needs to be ref-approved. Even KA-E to KA-DE swaps need BAR-approval to be legal.
Also, you can't swap any motor into any car... The engine has to come out of a car that is the same year or newer.

Get your facts straight before spreading false information, please.

That, however, is an excellent idea.

No... The CARB works their asses off to make modifying cars here a pain in the ass. If you want to thank any one organization for allowing us to mod cars here in CA, thank SEMA. They fight with the CARB on a regular basis.

What will you be using the car for? Street/drag? Street/drift? Strictly daily?
Q45 diffs are great if you want rear end with taller gears.
http://forums2.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=172393
You can ditch the VLSD in the Q45 diff in favor of something better.
If you're fine with the stock gearing, I've heard good things about the ATS/Carbonetics 1.5 way LSD. They are pricey, though, unless you find one used.
If you're going to run very sticky tires and/or drag race the car, I'd suggest swapping to either a Q45 rear since it is good and strong, or swapping out the stock 6-bolt axles for the JDM 5-bolt axles, which are stonger than the 6-bolt axles.

lol, you're wrong as well. It varies from county to county.

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Risu2112

The car is going to be used for daily driving pretty often, my intention is to optimize it for the track though, 1.5 way with a 3.08 ratio would be ideal. I don't really need it any higher than 3.08 since I'll be having so many traction issues as it is. I'll look into the ones you recommended. ^^

ma71supraturbo

Wrong. There is a reason why it is hard to get a PO box in Trinity and Humboldt counties...

kingkilburn

The only good thing out of that shit hole is Korn and even it stinks now

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JRas

so will a ref approve a LS1 swap into an S13/S14?

newer engine than chassis .. check
smog legal engine ... check

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Yes, assuming all the OEM smog stuff is there. You are allowed to fabricate different piping to make it work in your engine bay, but you have to use stock injectors/ecu/maf in addition to EGR, charcol cannister, and the # & placement of cats...

Risu2112

With the exception of the headers I believe, not sure if your counting that with "piping" or not. The headers need to be factory, or CARB certified aftermarket.

ma71supraturbo

They don't have to be factory if you can document that they wouldn't fit in their original configuration. But you will have to make sure the catalytic converters are in the same location(s) as the OEM manifolds (by location I mean same distance from engine so they warm up as quickly as stock). It is definitely more work (and some referees will discourage you), but it is possible.

PhilthyS13

http://www.smogcheck.ca.gov/ftp/pdfdocs/program_map.pdf

You learn something new every day.

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gigimow

Where did you end up getting your engine from?

Risu2112

Came from a WS6 with about 60k miles that had just enough frame damage to not warrant repairing

drftwerks

how much if you dont mind me asking, you can pm if you want

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StaticX27

Since when were a 92 civic and a 99 civic the same chassis?

Maybe you should read what I wrote a little more closely. If a 92 civic DX came with a D16 in it, and a 92 civic EX came with a B16 in it, you can legally put said B16 into your 92 civic DX.

GSXRJJordan

This was mentioned above, but I want to clear it up - with regard to the headers, the OEM ones do not have to be used, as they don't fit anything except F-bodys or Vettes.

But the configuration of all the emissions equipment has to be identical.

When I say emissions equipment, what that really means is the cats. That means no long-tube headers, no headers that make you re-route emissions plumbing, nothing. As long as you keep that in mind, you'll be A-OK with CARB.

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soreballz

^^Are you retarded? When did I say that they were the same chassis?

Read this carefully: ANYTIME YOU SWAP A MOTOR INTO YOUR CAR THAT ISN'T THE OEM MOTOR FOR THAT EXACT YEAR AND TRIM LEVEL, THE SWAP NEEDS TO BE REF-APPROVED TO BE SMOG-LEGAL.

Now, I'm reading what you wrote a little more closely... And what you wrote is indeed, retarded. Firstly, the 92 Civic EX never came with a B16. In fact, no US model Civic had a B16 in it until the EM Si coupe came along.
Secondly, even if that Civic DID come with said B16, yes, you COULD swap that motor into the DX of which you speak, but it wouldn't be LEGAL without that BAR sticker.

Now, I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt here, and assume that this little arguement is the simple result of your shitty reading comprehension skills, and thus, is a mere misunderstanding. With that said, I'm done here. Have a nice day.

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kingkilburn

Would that mean no 180 degree headers for a swapped V8?

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StaticX27

And that's where I consider you wrong. I can take my 7th gen Celica GT down to the dealership and drop in a 2ZZ motor and not even have to make a trip to the state ref, because of the first part of the law that you pointed out. It does not need to be ref approved.

Sorry, my honda knowledge is limited, poor example.

Maybe, or maybe you're wrong. Since you seem to be that interested in it, lets see the vehicle code that supports your statement. Otherwise I'm just going to assume you're another jackass.

silbeer

Any updates?

Risu I would recommend at least talking to Luke @ SDP. I visited his shop regarding the same project a few months back. I left with a positive impression of him and his shop. When I was there they had an FC getting prepped for a CARB legal swap, although I haven't followed up on that.

I never followed through because another project drained my budget. I'm saving up so that I can do this swap as well, so I'm definitely interested in following your project.