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iQuABoB · 11-26-2002, 03:46 PM

I know hicas is 4 wheel steering, and i test drove one with this feature... it was pretty cool doing a u-turn with it... but im interested in learning drifting and other techniques so i dont think i want 4WS...

So i have a couple questions?
First I was wondering how to tell if a car has HICAS?
and
Second I was wondering if most cars in Canada come with HICAS?

**mrmephistopheles** · 11-26-2002, 10:17 PM

First question:
1. check the VIN plate inside the engine bay. The chassis code will be RMKS13 (the car has to be a fastback, 91-93)
2. check for a HICAS dummy light in the gauge cluster
3. in the black stripe along the side of the car, just behind the door it will read 'SUPER HICAS'
4. get under the car and check the differential. If you see a cylinder with two arms coming out going to each rear wheel, it's HICAS.

Second question:
This was a myth perpetrated by an email list and furthered by MANY users. No. Also, even if you find a perfect car, except that it has HICAS, remember that you CAN disable it.

Edit: I was slightly off about the chassis code. It's now corrected.

Kevin

iQuABoB · 11-27-2002, 01:36 PM

how can you disable it and isnt it going to cost more to fix if you damage the rear suspension while drifting?

**mrmephistopheles** · 12-04-2002, 12:44 AM

Disable? Pull a fuse, or if you really want to be thorough, yank out the whole system.
Yes, it will be expensive to fix, as the parts are only going to come from Nissan. It's not like a shock you can blow or a wheel you can bend and get aftermarket replacement parts. You MAY be able to find rebuilt parts, but good luck.

nrcooled · 12-04-2002, 05:46 AM

There are HICAS eliminator kits you just have to have a overseas hook up to get it.  It's not widely sold in the US.  

But if you want to do it your self here is the trick

1. Have a shop fab up a straight rod to go between the "steering rack" in the ass end just to make sure that the rear tires don't move or shift position

2. Loop the steering lines that run to the rear so you will keep pressure (looking at you engine bay they will be on the far left at the very bottom)

3. Voila! your done and you get to keep the LSD (which you would probally have to remove when putting in a non HICAS rear end).  FYI your HICAS light will come on

**mrmephistopheles** · 12-04-2002, 07:31 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nrcooled @ Dec. 04 2002,04:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">3. Voila! your done and you get to keep the LSD (which you would probally have to remove when putting in a non HICAS rear end). FYI your HICAS light will come on</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
You could keep the LSD regardless. The HICAS unit is placed at the upper rear portion of the differential, but is by no means integral with it.

SHINCHU · 12-05-2002, 02:33 PM

yeah i have HICAS and its a pain in the rear! get it? pain in... nevermind. im eventually going to the junkyards and pulling the whole rear from a non-hicas 240 and swap it all in while keeping the LSD. hopefully it will be pretty straightforward. only reason im doing it (besides the fact hicas makes it hard to drift) is so i can run aftermarket shocks in the rear. the arms that steer the rear wheels actually attatch to the shocks and use them to steer. way to go nissan! that sucks. at least this is what i gather from all the things i have heard. HICAS. what a nightmare for people that know how to tune cars and drive them without aid of computer controls.

im thinking of putting some nice bushings in all the new rear pieces while they are off. seems like the logical thing to do. and what are those spacers that go between the rear end and the chassis? uras monkey magic of japan calls these "drift pineapples". i suppose it gives the suspension a better angle for drifting? how does this work? where can i get a good set to try out? thanks for any help.

chris

Dousan_PG · 12-05-2002, 02:42 PM

shinshu180sx is right. hicas and drifting are harder. the car is trying to correct itself while you are trying to keep traction away in the rear..doesnt work well

you can do the subframe swap of course. there are also hicas cancelling bars (a lot of Japanese companies make them, one is Kazama that comes to mind)

also those MOnkey Magic Drift Pineapples are VERY available stateside. if you buy the monkey magic one your paying for the name. i got ones from Greg Dupree (there were group buys on them). they are subframe spacers. basically the compress the subframe so elimiate slop (which helps reduce wheel hope)
BUT for you shinshu180sx, since you are replacing the entier subframe, the monkey magic one (the bigger kit-like 8 piece-not the 4 piece) you should get. you can also get the Whiteline Kit which is the SAME thing!! so be careful on the brand you want. just because its japanese doesnt make it any better then the exact same product stateside (specifically espcially something so simple as these drift pineapples!&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

anyways, hope that helps.

RYNO_s13 · 12-06-2002, 03:53 PM

I believe that Jim Wolf Technology has a disabler for the HICAS. you can get the phone # at www.jimwolftechnology.com

SHINCHU · 12-08-2002, 08:48 PM

thanks dousan and ryno.
i know there are other companies that make the spacers, but i just thought "drift pineapples" would be a more easily recognized name for them. i guess i was right! haha

so yeah i think the whiteline stuff sounds pretty good. doesnt PDM carry a lot of thier stuff? i might as well get the whole bushing kit for the back since i will have all the pieces off the car and i might powdercoat them some nifty color while im at it. wow when i get everything on i bet the alignment shop will hate me! "man, what did you do to this thing?! its WAY off!!" haha

as for the elimination kit, i think i would just get rid of the system all together to save wieght. i mean, the pump itself has to wiegh like what, 20 lbs? yeah, its outta there. but i will look into the elimintation kit since jim wolf is right up the street from me (well like 30 min.).
thanks for the input!

chris

SHINCHU · 12-08-2002, 08:48 PM

thanks dousan and ryno.
i know there are other companies that make the spacers, but i just thought "drift pineapples" would be a more easily recognized name for them. i guess i was right! haha

so yeah i think the whiteline stuff sounds pretty good. doesnt PDM carry a lot of thier stuff? i might as well get the whole bushing kit for the back since i will have all the pieces off the car and i might powdercoat them some nifty color while im at it. wow when i get everything on i bet the alignment shop will hate me! "man, what did you do to this thing?! its WAY off!!" haha

as for the elimination kit, i think i would just get rid of the system all together to save wieght. i mean, the pump itself has to wiegh like what, 20 lbs? yeah, its outta there. but i will look into the elimintation kit since jim wolf is right up the street from me (well like 30 min.).
thanks for the input!

chris

mods: heheh sorry about the double post. sucks posting from an aircraft carrier. sssslllloooowwwwwwww...

KoukiS14 · 12-22-2002, 02:38 PM

Why would you want to get rid of it? How does it screw up drifting? All mine did was help everything. The stock handling on S14 is very disappointing. . Got so used to HICAS.

Drifting (not saying I'm a pro) was very easy with it, it never got in the way. I guess I don't understand the mentality of wanting to throw a gift away haha

-Rob

*transient* · 12-22-2002, 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shinchu180sx
the arms that steer the rear wheels actually attatch to the shocks and use them to steer. way to go nissan

Are you absolutely sure that it's impossible to use aftermarket shocks with HICAS? Seems like a pretty big engineering problem if that's really the case...

RomperStomper · 03-07-2003, 07:48 AM

i have hicas with Koni Adjustables and Eibach pro-kit springs and they installed no problem

AKADriver · 03-07-2003, 09:09 AM

Yes, the "aftermarket struts won't fit HICAS" is a myth perpetuated by manufacturers of the shocks that don't correctly read the factory parts lists. The HICAS cars had struts with more aggressive damping from the factory, and hence a different part number; but they bolt up just the same.

Dousan_PG · 03-07-2003, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KoukiS14
Why would you want to get rid of it? How does it screw up drifting? All mine did was help everything. The stock handling on S14 is very disappointing. . Got so used to HICAS.

Drifting (not saying I'm a pro) was very easy with it, it never got in the way. I guess I don't understand the mentality of wanting to throw a gift away haha

-Rob

because the car is contantly trying to correct itself wen you go sideways

if you tried a s13 w/o hicas you probably would have noticed the difference.

maybe it was the speed you were going?

KoukiS14 · 03-07-2003, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
because the car is contantly trying to correct itself wen you go sideways

if you tried a s13 w/o hicas you probably would have noticed the difference.

maybe it was the speed you were going?

Not sure, I've done it at speeds ranging from 30 mph to 60 mph, and noticed no ill effects...

I've driven a couple of S13s without it, handling feels as bad as it does in my S14. . (of course, HICAS is a complete system and not just rear wheel steering tho. . )

Dousan_PG · 03-07-2003, 12:11 PM

interesting...
my s13 is so nimble its ridiculous. i drove a friend's (2) s14s and it was like driving a boat crazy

my car's stable at high speeds (60ish+) drifting. but i'd like to try a hicas one one day. just to see what its about. of course one slide isnt enough, gotta chokudori it and see how it goes. maybe 3 consecutive corners might see the downsides of it.

KoukiS14 · 03-07-2003, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dousan36
interesting...
my s13 is so nimble its ridiculous. i drove a friend's (2) s14s and it was like driving a boat crazy

my car's stable at high speeds (60ish+) drifting. but i'd like to try a hicas one one day. just to see what its about. of course one slide isnt enough, gotta chokudori it and see how it goes. maybe 3 consecutive corners might see the downsides of it.

Yeah, HICAS > S13 > S14. .
S14 is the worst of the bunch, took me awhile to learn how to control it. . springs will fix that. . haha. . . ugh. .

Oh well. . .

Yeah u need to drive one!!! you might like it. .

Everyone says it's invasive and twitchy, but. . I disagree. . nothing like .95 G STOCK on H rated all season tires!!!
compare that to .88 G with S14. .

misnomer · 03-08-2003, 02:57 PM

**** dood, I feel like I'm one of the only guys who would trade up to HICAS in a heartbeat. . . :P

And here everybody is trying to kill it.

AKADriver · 03-08-2003, 03:28 PM

Well, they're looking to drift.

KoukiS14 · 03-08-2003, 08:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by misnomer
**** dood, I feel like I'm one of the only guys who would trade up to HICAS in a heartbeat. . . :P

And here everybody is trying to kill it.

I know!! And they sell kits to DEFEAT it for the track. Although, I have to admit. . I don't race on the track, so I can't say it's worth defeating for the track. All I can say is, people spend way too much time prepping their street cars for the track, when most of us never (or rarely) go there.
For the street, keep the HICAS... it's a hell of a cool thing, IMO. . Plus, you get VLSD, stiffer stock springs and thicker stock sways (which most people replace anyway haha, but still...) and you get a tighter ratio front steering box. . All adds up for some impressive feel, and amazing handling. . Don't get me wrong, my S14 handles okay, but it's total ASS compared to my HICAS S13, and I knew what I was up against b4 I bought it. . (and I'd make the decision again) fresher, newer S14 > rusting 140k mile S13. .

SHINCHU · 03-08-2003, 11:22 PM

***UPDATE***

okay i drifted the **** out of my hicas s13 at drift showoff and it felt fine. aaron if you wanna try a hicas car next event i go to you can try mine. if i can try yours mwahahaha! j/k nah you can try mine though its all good. so anyway, maybe hicas isnt so bad. its hard to break loose initially, but once its sideways, there's no stoppin ya! and i only spun out twice all day! heheh. and as for the shocks, i was thinking of just ordering some more agx (i already have fronts mounted) and just see if they fit. the more i think about it, its obsurd that nissan would make a car you cant replace shocks on. that was rather ignorant of me. other things get on my nerves though. the biggest thing is that i cant get an aftermarket steering wheel because the hub and entire steering shaft are different on a hicas car because there are steering angle sensors they had to change everything for, and nobody has made a hub adapter yet for that design. and i was having serious leg clearance issues at drift showoff. i have to heel-toe with the side of my foot instead of my heel. it sucks.

new question: how low can you go on AGX? i'm about to mount some adjustable springs on there (ground control type), and i want to know how low i can go before the AGX's are ineffective. anyone know? if not, thats cool. i can just play with it until i figure it out.

oh yeah and aaron, it choku-dori's like a champ.

chris
TEAM DUCK SNIPER

RBS14 · 03-09-2003, 02:16 PM

I have a Border Hicas eliminator off of a s13. If you are interested, email me. [email protected]

Thanks Luke

Jsquared · 03-09-2003, 04:09 PM

HICAS cars have a tighter steering rack? can you swap a HICAS rack to a non-Hicas S13 for tighter steering?

TXMike · 03-11-2003, 08:13 AM

how hard would it be to setup HICAS on a car not originally equiped with it? it would be a nice addition to an upcoming s14 project for daily driving.

KoukiS14 · 03-11-2003, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Jsquared
HICAS cars have a tighter steering rack? can you swap a HICAS rack to a non-Hicas S13 for tighter steering?

It's my understanding that you CAN do this. . yupyup. .
I was considering doing it from a HICAS S14, but since ALL HICAS S14s were Silvias, and thus RHD. . I dunno. . I'm not mechanic, but I bet that won't work haha

KoukiS14 · 03-11-2003, 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TXMike
how hard would it be to setup HICAS on a car not originally equiped with it? it would be a nice addition to an upcoming s14 project for daily driving.

I don't know if anyone's attempted this, but. . . I'd LOVE to at least get 4ws on my S14. . probably pretty hard, finding Silvias in the U.S. to pull parts of MIGHT be a problem (shipping from Japan'd be a bitch). . but. . I've seen whole silvias here. . so maybe not so bad. . Not sure hehe. .

I wonder if S13 parts would work. . if so, I wish I had kept them from my S13 haha

AKADriver · 03-11-2003, 10:34 AM

People ship rear subframes all the time, an S14 HICAS rear subframe shouldn't be impossible to get.

But then there's the wiring/controller, and power steering lines to the back, etc... not easy stuff to add.

nrcooled · 03-11-2003, 12:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AKADriver
People ship rear subframes all the time, an S14 HICAS rear subframe shouldn't be impossible to get.

But then there's the wiring/controller, and power steering lines to the back, etc... not easy stuff to add.

You need the steering rack for HICAS. There are two banjo fittings on the steering rack that supply pressure to the rear steering rack.

1. Steering rack
2. High pressure fittings and lines
3. Rear subframe (w/ tie rods)
4. Steering pump (HICAS has an additional line coming out)
5. ECU from HICAS equiped car (which will be for a SR so be ready to swap on the s14)

In my opinion not worth the trouble. I have a HICAS s13 and it's not really a big deal) It does help keep the a$s end behind you on the track though

Edit: Forget about getting coilovers because you will not be able to keep the correct toe and camber that HICAS requires to correct it's self for steering input

11-26-2002, 03:46 PM	#1
iQuABoB Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know hicas is 4 wheel steering, and i test drove one with this feature... it was pretty cool doing a u-turn with it... but im interested in learning drifting and other techniques so i dont think i want 4WS... So i have a couple questions? First I was wondering how to tell if a car has HICAS? and Second I was wondering if most cars in Canada come with HICAS? __________________ - Andrew .:. イクワボーブ

12-04-2002, 05:46 AM	#5
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 42 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	There are HICAS eliminator kits you just have to have a overseas hook up to get it.  It's not widely sold in the US.   But if you want to do it your self here is the trick 1. Have a shop fab up a straight rod to go between the "steering rack" in the ass end just to make sure that the rear tires don't move or shift position 2. Loop the steering lines that run to the rear so you will keep pressure (looking at you engine bay they will be on the far left at the very bottom) 3. Voila! your done and you get to keep the LSD (which you would probally have to remove when putting in a non HICAS rear end).  FYI your HICAS light will come on __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

12-05-2002, 02:42 PM	#8
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	shinshu180sx is right. hicas and drifting are harder. the car is trying to correct itself while you are trying to keep traction away in the rear..doesnt work well you can do the subframe swap of course. there are also hicas cancelling bars (a lot of Japanese companies make them, one is Kazama that comes to mind) also those MOnkey Magic Drift Pineapples are VERY available stateside. if you buy the monkey magic one your paying for the name. i got ones from Greg Dupree (there were group buys on them). they are subframe spacers. basically the compress the subframe so elimiate slop (which helps reduce wheel hope) BUT for you shinshu180sx, since you are replacing the entier subframe, the monkey magic one (the bigger kit-like 8 piece-not the 4 piece) you should get. you can also get the Whiteline Kit which is the SAME thing!! so be careful on the brand you want. just because its japanese doesnt make it any better then the exact same product stateside (specifically espcially something so simple as these drift pineapples!&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> anyways, hope that helps. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

12-06-2002, 03:53 PM	#9
RYNO_s13 Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 59 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I believe that Jim Wolf Technology has a disabler for the HICAS. you can get the phone # at www.jimwolftechnology.com __________________ Sure, I can go fast, but can you CORNER? '92 fastback, currently awaiting spinal transplant.

03-07-2003, 12:11 PM	#18
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	interesting... my s13 is so nimble its ridiculous. i drove a friend's (2) s14s and it was like driving a boat crazy my car's stable at high speeds (60ish+) drifting. but i'd like to try a hicas one one day. just to see what its about. of course one slide isnt enough, gotta chokudori it and see how it goes. maybe 3 consecutive corners might see the downsides of it. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

11-26-2002, 10:17 PM	#2
mrmephistopheles Inactive Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 19 Posts: 14,334 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	First question: 1. check the VIN plate inside the engine bay. The chassis code will be RMKS13 (the car has to be a fastback, 91-93) 2. check for a HICAS dummy light in the gauge cluster 3. in the black stripe along the side of the car, just behind the door it will read 'SUPER HICAS' 4. get under the car and check the differential. If you see a cylinder with two arms coming out going to each rear wheel, it's HICAS. Second question: This was a myth perpetrated by an email list and furthered by MANY users. No. Also, even if you find a perfect car, except that it has HICAS, remember that you CAN disable it. Edit: I was slightly off about the chassis code. It's now corrected. Kevin

11-27-2002, 01:36 PM	#3
iQuABoB Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 8 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how can you disable it and isnt it going to cost more to fix if you damage the rear suspension while drifting? __________________ - Andrew .:. イクワボーブ

12-04-2002, 12:44 AM	#4
mrmephistopheles Inactive Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 19 Posts: 14,334 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Disable? Pull a fuse, or if you really want to be thorough, yank out the whole system. Yes, it will be expensive to fix, as the parts are only going to come from Nissan. It's not like a shock you can blow or a wheel you can bend and get aftermarket replacement parts. You MAY be able to find rebuilt parts, but good luck.

12-04-2002, 07:31 AM	#6
mrmephistopheles Inactive Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 19 Posts: 14,334 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (nrcooled @ Dec. 04 2002,04:46)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">3. Voila! your done and you get to keep the LSD (which you would probally have to remove when putting in a non HICAS rear end). FYI your HICAS light will come on</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> You could keep the LSD regardless. The HICAS unit is placed at the upper rear portion of the differential, but is by no means integral with it.

12-05-2002, 02:33 PM	#7
SHINCHU Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Temecula, CA Age: 42 Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SHINCHU Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah i have HICAS and its a pain in the rear! get it? pain in... nevermind. im eventually going to the junkyards and pulling the whole rear from a non-hicas 240 and swap it all in while keeping the LSD. hopefully it will be pretty straightforward. only reason im doing it (besides the fact hicas makes it hard to drift) is so i can run aftermarket shocks in the rear. the arms that steer the rear wheels actually attatch to the shocks and use them to steer. way to go nissan! that sucks. at least this is what i gather from all the things i have heard. HICAS. what a nightmare for people that know how to tune cars and drive them without aid of computer controls. im thinking of putting some nice bushings in all the new rear pieces while they are off. seems like the logical thing to do. and what are those spacers that go between the rear end and the chassis? uras monkey magic of japan calls these "drift pineapples". i suppose it gives the suspension a better angle for drifting? how does this work? where can i get a good set to try out? thanks for any help. chris

12-08-2002, 08:48 PM	#10
SHINCHU Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Temecula, CA Age: 42 Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SHINCHU Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks dousan and ryno. i know there are other companies that make the spacers, but i just thought "drift pineapples" would be a more easily recognized name for them. i guess i was right! haha so yeah i think the whiteline stuff sounds pretty good. doesnt PDM carry a lot of thier stuff? i might as well get the whole bushing kit for the back since i will have all the pieces off the car and i might powdercoat them some nifty color while im at it. wow when i get everything on i bet the alignment shop will hate me! "man, what did you do to this thing?! its WAY off!!" haha as for the elimination kit, i think i would just get rid of the system all together to save wieght. i mean, the pump itself has to wiegh like what, 20 lbs? yeah, its outta there. but i will look into the elimintation kit since jim wolf is right up the street from me (well like 30 min.). thanks for the input! chris

12-22-2002, 02:38 PM	#12
KoukiS14 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: Indiana Age: 43 Posts: 944 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Why would you want to get rid of it? How does it screw up drifting? All mine did was help everything. The stock handling on S14 is very disappointing. . Got so used to HICAS. Drifting (not saying I'm a pro) was very easy with it, it never got in the way. I guess I don't understand the mentality of wanting to throw a gift away haha -Rob

03-07-2003, 07:48 AM	#14
RomperStomper Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Antonio Posts: 6 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i have hicas with Koni Adjustables and Eibach pro-kit springs and they installed no problem

03-07-2003, 09:09 AM	#15
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 39 Posts: 3,112 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yes, the "aftermarket struts won't fit HICAS" is a myth perpetuated by manufacturers of the shocks that don't correctly read the factory parts lists. The HICAS cars had struts with more aggressive damping from the factory, and hence a different part number; but they bolt up just the same.

03-08-2003, 02:57 PM	#20
misnomer Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Nevada Posts: 2,293 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	**** dood, I feel like I'm one of the only guys who would trade up to HICAS in a heartbeat. . . :P And here everybody is trying to kill it. __________________ Rowsdower saves us and saves all the world!

03-08-2003, 03:28 PM	#21
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 39 Posts: 3,112 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, they're looking to drift.

03-08-2003, 11:22 PM	#23
SHINCHU Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Temecula, CA Age: 42 Posts: 244 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SHINCHU Feedback Score: 0 reviews	*UPDATE* okay i drifted the **** out of my hicas s13 at drift showoff and it felt fine. aaron if you wanna try a hicas car next event i go to you can try mine. if i can try yours mwahahaha! j/k nah you can try mine though its all good. so anyway, maybe hicas isnt so bad. its hard to break loose initially, but once its sideways, there's no stoppin ya! and i only spun out twice all day! heheh. and as for the shocks, i was thinking of just ordering some more agx (i already have fronts mounted) and just see if they fit. the more i think about it, its obsurd that nissan would make a car you cant replace shocks on. that was rather ignorant of me. other things get on my nerves though. the biggest thing is that i cant get an aftermarket steering wheel because the hub and entire steering shaft are different on a hicas car because there are steering angle sensors they had to change everything for, and nobody has made a hub adapter yet for that design. and i was having serious leg clearance issues at drift showoff. i have to heel-toe with the side of my foot instead of my heel. it sucks. new question: how low can you go on AGX? i'm about to mount some adjustable springs on there (ground control type), and i want to know how low i can go before the AGX's are ineffective. anyone know? if not, thats cool. i can just play with it until i figure it out. oh yeah and aaron, it choku-dori's like a champ. chris TEAM DUCK SNIPER

03-09-2003, 02:16 PM	#24
RBS14 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Santa Cruz/San Diego Posts: 2,271 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	humm I have a Border Hicas eliminator off of a s13. If you are interested, email me. [email protected] Thanks Luke __________________

03-09-2003, 04:09 PM	#25
Jsquared Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Raleigh, NC//Charlotte, NC Age: 38 Posts: 503 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	HICAS cars have a tighter steering rack? can you swap a HICAS rack to a non-Hicas S13 for tighter steering?

03-11-2003, 08:13 AM	#26
TXMike Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dallas, TX Age: 38 Posts: 3 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	how hard would it be to setup HICAS on a car not originally equiped with it? it would be a nice addition to an upcoming s14 project for daily driving.

03-11-2003, 10:34 AM	#29
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 39 Posts: 3,112 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	People ship rear subframes all the time, an S14 HICAS rear subframe shouldn't be impossible to get. But then there's the wiring/controller, and power steering lines to the back, etc... not easy stuff to add.

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