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lost240soul · 01-26-2010, 06:17 PM

so i have a s13 black top sr20det (non type x motor).. i did some reaserach here and on a few other websites and came up empty handed..

so my question is were and how do u check valve clearance from and under what condition (cold engine warm engine ect ect) and what is spec.?

any input would be helpfull

lost240soul · 01-26-2010, 07:37 PM

any help will do..=)

jspaeth · 01-26-2010, 08:23 PM

That's a tough one....the only FSM that I know of or have seen (in English) is for an S14SR....

I'm sure one of the experts on here knows that....which clearance are you referring to though?

Clearance between cam and rocker arm?

lost240soul · 01-26-2010, 08:54 PM

^^^ yea im not sure if its 100% the same specs you know so im kinda ify but i a, refering to the clearance between the cam and the rocker and the rocker to the valve if their is a measurment for that one.. basically im trying to find the root of my tick tick noise.. which i think is the the lifters not being bleed properly or the valve adjustment is out of spec..

Propaganda · 01-26-2010, 09:53 PM

I am not sure about the Rocker to Lobe clearance, but for Valve to Rocker (Shim) you need a shim height tool.

Only place I know is RPSport

Oh.. did you bleed your Hydraulic Lash Adjusters?

singlecamslam · 01-26-2010, 09:59 PM

Yea thats the tool ^ you can also make one for under 50 bucks.

Propaganda · 01-26-2010, 10:06 PM

waht? PM me.. I suck at fabbing

singlecamslam · 01-26-2010, 11:27 PM

There was a link, i think it was on ziptied, a guy made a tool that works just like that one for like 30 bucks, using harbor freight stuff, someone help me out.

lost240soul · 01-27-2010, 01:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Propaganda

I am not sure about the Rocker to Lobe clearance, but for Valve to Rocker (Shim) you need a shim height tool.

Only place I know is RPSport

Oh.. did you bleed your Hydraulic Lash Adjusters?

i have not bleed the lifters if that is what ur refering to but would that make the valve chatter noise.. ?

*fliprayzin240sx* · 01-27-2010, 09:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lost240soul

i have not bleed the lifters if that is what ur refering to but would that make the valve chatter noise.. ?

It would make ticking noises...try bleeding all of them first. Take each lifters off, submerge it in oil and stick something in the hole to force the bubbles out.

lost240soul · 01-28-2010, 12:04 AM

hmm is their a DIY on how to do this.. and does anyone know what noise a lifter would make if it was starting go bad

jspaeth · 01-28-2010, 08:32 AM

Yeah like everyone said it sounds like a ticking coming from the head....

You need to pull the HLAs and stick something thin in the top and push it up and down quickly to get the air bubbles out.

..oh yeah and this should be done while the HLA is submerged in oil....once you finish, keep it upright.

lost240soul · 01-28-2010, 09:08 AM

hmm yea thats what it seeems like do u know if their is a DIY anywere .. i know jgy shows what to do but its not very clear .. if theirs any one that can help let me know.. plz
all efforts are greatly appericated

jspaeth · 01-28-2010, 11:22 AM

DIY for what? Bleeding the lifters? If you aren't experienced, I wouldn't mess with this.

It involves pulling the valve cover, cams, etc

Then there is the possibility you tq something the wrong way, mess up your time, lose a shim, etc.

Are you sure you wanna do it yourself? If you can do it, go for it, but stuff CAN get messed up in there if you don't really know what you are doing.

nieko · 01-28-2010, 11:51 AM

Funny story, i just made a write up for the reshimming the valves and stuff.

Another thing you might want to check for is your HLA's.

Take them out and re-bleed them, these type of HLA's cannot be bled by running the motor.

What you do is take them out submerge them in oil take a little metal rod and put it inside and find the little relief ball thing, keep pushing it down until all the air is out.

Have fun with your new quiet SR.

Hope this helped.

Oh, and here is that write-up/

How-To SR Valve Shimming. - Page 2 - Socal-Drift

jspaeth · 01-28-2010, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nieko

Funny story, i just made a write up for the reshimming the valves and stuff.

Another thing you might want to check for is your HLA's.

Take them out and re-bleed them, these type of HLA's cannot be bled by running the motor.

What you do is take them out submerge them in oil take a little metal rod and put it inside and find the little relief ball thing, keep pushing it down until all the air is out.

Have fun with your new quiet SR.

Hope this helped.

Oh, and here is that write-up/

How-To SR Valve Shimming. - Page 2 - Socal-Drift

I can swear that is almost exactly what i wrote like 4 posts above

Propaganda · 01-28-2010, 02:56 PM

I think he wants pictures because he doesn't know what he's doing. You've been here almost two years and don't know how to search? The guy gave you information steps how to do it. We can't spoonfeed you all the time.

You have not searched because "bleed lifters sr20det" comes up with a step by step article with pictures on the first hit on google

lost240soul · 01-28-2010, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Propaganda

I think he wants pictures because he doesn't know what he's doing. You've been here almost two years and don't know how to search? The guy gave you information steps how to do it. We can't spoonfeed you all the time.

You have not searched because "bleed lifters sr20det" comes up with a step by step article with pictures on the first hit on google

im sorry my search wasnt the same as yours but i did search but i searched another item as for giving me shit for it not cool man .. if i would of known i was gonna get flamed i would of not asked the question.. as for all the other people helping me thank you alot .. ive found the problem and now i know how to fix it..

01-26-2010, 06:17 PM	#1
lost240soul Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: so cal 91761 Age: 32 Posts: 742 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	Sr20det Valve clearance Question so i have a s13 black top sr20det (non type x motor).. i did some reaserach here and on a few other websites and came up empty handed.. so my question is were and how do u check valve clearance from and under what condition (cold engine warm engine ect ect) and what is spec.? any input would be helpfull

01-26-2010, 08:23 PM	#3
jspaeth Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philadelphia suburbs Age: 37 Posts: 2,347 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: jspaeth Feedback Score: 7 reviews	That's a tough one....the only FSM that I know of or have seen (in English) is for an S14SR.... I'm sure one of the experts on here knows that....which clearance are you referring to though? Clearance between cam and rocker arm? __________________ Daily driven

01-26-2010, 09:59 PM	#6
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	Yea thats the tool ^ you can also make one for under 50 bucks. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

01-26-2010, 11:27 PM	#8
singlecamslam Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Norcal Posts: 2,531 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	There was a link, i think it was on ziptied, a guy made a tool that works just like that one for like 30 bucks, using harbor freight stuff, someone help me out. __________________ Nothing says racecar like a stock car with no interior.

01-28-2010, 08:32 AM	#12
jspaeth Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philadelphia suburbs Age: 37 Posts: 2,347 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: jspaeth Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Yeah like everyone said it sounds like a ticking coming from the head.... You need to pull the HLAs and stick something thin in the top and push it up and down quickly to get the air bubbles out. ..oh yeah and this should be done while the HLA is submerged in oil....once you finish, keep it upright. __________________ Daily driven

01-26-2010, 07:37 PM	#2
lost240soul Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: so cal 91761 Age: 32 Posts: 742 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	any help will do..=)

01-26-2010, 08:54 PM	#4
lost240soul Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: so cal 91761 Age: 32 Posts: 742 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	^^^ yea im not sure if its 100% the same specs you know so im kinda ify but i a, refering to the clearance between the cam and the rocker and the rocker to the valve if their is a measurment for that one.. basically im trying to find the root of my tick tick noise.. which i think is the the lifters not being bleed properly or the valve adjustment is out of spec..

01-26-2010, 09:53 PM	#5
Propaganda Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 34 Posts: 451 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I am not sure about the Rocker to Lobe clearance, but for Valve to Rocker (Shim) you need a shim height tool. Only place I know is RPSport Oh.. did you bleed your Hydraulic Lash Adjusters?

01-26-2010, 10:06 PM	#7
Propaganda Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 34 Posts: 451 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	waht? PM me.. I suck at fabbing

01-28-2010, 12:04 AM	#11
lost240soul Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: so cal 91761 Age: 32 Posts: 742 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	hmm is their a DIY on how to do this.. and does anyone know what noise a lifter would make if it was starting go bad

01-28-2010, 09:08 AM	#13
lost240soul Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: so cal 91761 Age: 32 Posts: 742 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	hmm yea thats what it seeems like do u know if their is a DIY anywere .. i know jgy shows what to do but its not very clear .. if theirs any one that can help let me know.. plz all efforts are greatly appericated

01-28-2010, 11:22 AM	#14
jspaeth Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Philadelphia suburbs Age: 37 Posts: 2,347 Trader Rating: (7) Rides Gallery: jspaeth Feedback Score: 7 reviews	DIY for what? Bleeding the lifters? If you aren't experienced, I wouldn't mess with this. It involves pulling the valve cover, cams, etc Then there is the possibility you tq something the wrong way, mess up your time, lose a shim, etc. Are you sure you wanna do it yourself? If you can do it, go for it, but stuff CAN get messed up in there if you don't really know what you are doing. __________________ Daily driven

01-28-2010, 11:51 AM	#15
nieko Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Westminster Age: 30 Posts: 2,694 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Funny story, i just made a write up for the reshimming the valves and stuff. Another thing you might want to check for is your HLA's. Take them out and re-bleed them, these type of HLA's cannot be bled by running the motor. What you do is take them out submerge them in oil take a little metal rod and put it inside and find the little relief ball thing, keep pushing it down until all the air is out. Have fun with your new quiet SR. Hope this helped. Oh, and here is that write-up/ How-To SR Valve Shimming. - Page 2 - Socal-Drift __________________

01-28-2010, 02:56 PM	#17
Propaganda Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2005 Location: Charleston, SC Age: 34 Posts: 451 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	I think he wants pictures because he doesn't know what he's doing. You've been here almost two years and don't know how to search? The guy gave you information steps how to do it. We can't spoonfeed you all the time. You have not searched because "bleed lifters sr20det" comes up with a step by step article with pictures on the first hit on google

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