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Old 01-08-2008, 01:18 AM   #1
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"The Goon" Build (KA Datsun)

First, I'd like to say what's up, everybody. I'm Sean from Sacramento, CA. I've been lurking around the forums for a few months, reading up and learning a lot, so thanks in advance for all of the help you guys have unknowingly given me!

This is my first post, so let's start it right! This is my project (AKA The Breadbox), and I've had a blast working on it with my older brother. I've learned a ton about Nissans, and the racing pedigree they earned back in the day under the Datsun brand.



A few months back, I bought this 1972 Datsun 510 Wagon with the stock 1800cc motor and 4 speed tranny that was nearing the last leg of its life.






My brother and I decided to scrap the stocker and upgrade to a KA24DE with future plans on turboing and driving on around 250hp. First thing's first, I tore out the stock L18 and 4 speed tranny, cleaned the engine bay, removed the windshield wiper motor assembly, cleaned the engine bay some more, and sanded it down. I sprayed a few cans of "Truck Bed Liner" rattle-can paint as a base, and finished it with a semi-gloss black. It came out really nice for nothing more than some elbow grease and 10 bucks from NAPA.





A trip to the local junk yard, and I scored some 280zx struts and breaks for the front to give this beast some true stopping power, also allowing me the opportunity to go back and upgrade to drilled and/or slotted rotors when we turbo. I cut and flipped the engine crossmember to clear the stock oil pan and took the struts, control arms, TC rods and x-member in for powdercoating (as long as I'm doing it, I might as well do it right, yeah?). After some wiggling, we got the engine and tranny in and seated with a new transmission crossmember, all new steering linkage, poly bushings and some fresh grease all around to replace the worn out, 30 something year old parts.

(Pics of front suspension will be added this weekend sometime)



As it sits now, I have to shorten the stock driveshaft, finish fab work on my custom stainless fuel cell, figure out where I'm mounting the intake, get a radiator and electric fans small enough to squeeze in front of the motor, and get exhaust done, but I'm hoping to knock out those small things within the month. After that's done, I picked up some BRE style fiberglass flared front fenders, and some rear fender flares to match.



However, as you can see, the rear flares can't just be molded on and call it a day, as they were meant for a 2 door. The idea for now is that we're going to have to recut the rear doors and retub the wheel wells to allow the flares to be molded in so some big-lipped, low offset wheels can come in! After some flare-age, the whole car needs a trip to the paint booth for a nice red color to cover up the stock... I have no idea what to call that color!

I'll keep updates coming as I can, as well as some more recent pictures as soon as I get over to my brothers house to take some. Any feedback is welcome, but I'd prefer constructive criticism over outright flaming, if at all possible, haha!

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Old 01-08-2008, 01:25 AM   #2
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that's fantastic. +1
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Wow, thanks for the quick response, I'll try to build it up a little bit more over the next week or so when I can get some more pictures when it was in more pieces.
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looking forward to it. ka's being put to good use warms my heart. that bay looks sweet.
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Goon is such an awesome word.

Build looks pretty neat so far!
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Looks awsome, can't wait to see the rest of it sean! +1
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SHAGGIN WAGAN! sweet ... i cant wait to see the progress. good to see someone saving another piece of import history
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I can tell you there is going to be NO Shag Carpet put in this thing, haha. Thanks for the kind words, guys! If any of you are looking into getting a Datsun of any kind, let me know. My brother has owned a dozen or so, and can pretty much tell you exactly what goes where, what size any bolt is and how to fix anything on them. He's definately my mentor in this build!
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I can't wait to see what you get done. I have been thinking about getting a 510 wagon and just going nuts with it. That or a Datsun 2000. Good job bro. Keep the pics coming. +1 for stylinz
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**********UPDATE**********

So I got to work and fiddled with some numbers with one of my colleagues, and discovered that I had to remeasure for my fuel cell. As perfect as a 23"lx17"wx11"h cell would fit in the stock location, I crunched some numbers and found that it would hold about 18.5 gallons of fuel, which is WAY more than I need. I dont need to drive to L.A. one one tank!! So tomorrow, I'm heading over to mount the alternator bracket, do some wiring, take some pictures, and come up with a new measurement.


Rogue, swapping an SR or KA into a 510 is... easy. Like, stupid easy. You cut and reverse the front crossmember, reuse the stock motor mounts, and buy a new tranny crossmember, plumb and wire and you're done. I can't speak from experience on a 2000, but I've done two KA 510s and it's so perfect for that engine bay.
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Beautiful build. I'm looking forward to following it's progress.
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Thanks again to everybody that's replied so far. I'm even more excited to get some more work done on it now that people are stoked for me! I thought it was definately a unique build, as I haven't seen a 510 Wagon on the roads in a few years. I got a much happier response here than I did over at the510realm forums, but then again they see 510's being posted 24/7.

I vow to take no more Camera Phone pictures, though my digital camera isn't a huge step up. I'll get front suspension and crossmember pictures tomorrow, any other requests?
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sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeet! good luck man cant wait for more pictures.

ive seen one datsun wagon here in my city. i was shocked to even see one still around.
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my dad's been wanting to team up on a 510. he had one when they were new. or a Z, same story

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More pictures?! Haha, I'm at work right now, I wish I could be working on it. But I AM bringing a few things back with me today. Grabbing some 3/4 stock bar, some heim joins and 3/4 bushing ends. And the jewel, I've got to pollish up my new battery hold-down tray for my optima. Yay pollished billet!


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thia thing will have a great stance one it's lowered with the flares and the nice offsets
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Why the wagon?
Not that theres anything wrong with it. just wondering.
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Honestly, because of availability. My older brother had it and was buying a 2 door shell to do his KA swap, so I took the wagon off his hands for 700 bones. Plus, to find a 510 with a decent body, with no major rust and in running condition is hard enough as it is. It was a steal.

Plus I think they're sick. You rarely see a 510, but to see a badass 510 wagon is unheard of!
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nice build. Got a friend here that used to drift a wagon. didn't do to good with the stock engine. it did have 4 barrel side draft carbs though.
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Honestly, because of availability. My older brother had it and was buying a 2 door shell to do his KA swap, so I took the wagon off his hands for 700 bones. Plus, to find a 510 with a decent body, with no major rust and in running condition is hard enough as it is. It was a steal.

Plus I think they're sick. You rarely see a 510, but to see a badass 510 wagon is unheard of!
I think it's a great idea.

Originality but not just for the sake of it.

Originality because it's going to be badass.
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Yeah, the stock engine that was in mine was pretty tired. As soon as I would corner, the engine would sputter and try to die. Rather than try to tune the engine to work right, I pulled it for the KA. I welded the rear diff to let it break a little easier, and I actually got the little ole wagon to spin some donuts off before we yanked the old L18.

Before I really drift this thing, I need to have the rear springs debowed and stiffened and reinforce the leaf spring mounts to ensure that nothing bad happens.

Plans for wheels? I'm going to stick with the 15x7 Snowflakes. When I get it all flared and I'm shopping for new shoes, I'll probably go for some 15x9 +0 all around. I'm not quite sure yet, but the bigger the lip the better to fit under the fenders!
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Pretty soon there isn't gonna be any stock 510s around, everyone feels the need to swap them and turn them into drifters

Nice wagon...I guess. Rare to see them around.
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My next summer project is going to be an '82 Datsun 200sx.

It was my dad's first car.

Ever since he got rid of it(blown engine) about 12-14 years ago, he's wanted another one.

So, I plan on getting him one, restoring it, fresh paint, wheels, suspension, etc. and giving it to him for his 50th birthday.

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