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stiizy · 09-24-2008, 03:52 PM

Just like it said how good is it???

Where did you buy it...

Post pix...

How do you cook it..

I know you know Akademik ...

Begin!!

Brian · 09-24-2008, 03:53 PM

I used to work at Kobe Steakhouse

I never got to eat Kobe Beef though.

bluepanda523 · 09-24-2008, 03:55 PM

its supposed to awesome because it has a much higher saturated fat content, but those cows are treated like kings till they get chopped up

stiizy · 09-24-2008, 03:55 PM

awh how could you not eat it if they had it??

*exitspeed* · 09-24-2008, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stiizy

Just like it said how good is it???

Where did you buy it...

Post pix...

How do you cook it..

I know you know Akademik ...

Begin!!

I'd like to eat some raw, and then some cooked rare.

I think i may buy two of those ribeyes. Unless I can find it locally. I know of a really excellent butcher here in Milwaukee. I emailed them to see if they carry it.

And yea they feed the cows beer on top of massaging them.

DUFFM4N · 09-24-2008, 03:59 PM

kobe beef ipod nano case...reeeeaaaaal ballin

then you can say you have a "good taste in music"

ayuaddict · 09-24-2008, 03:59 PM

from what i understand they are allowed very little (if any) exercise and are massaged by hand for most of their lives.

and supposedly the politically correct term is now wagyu and not kobe gyu, because its not exclusive to kobe.

MikeisNissan · 09-24-2008, 04:01 PM

I thought someone was beefin' with Kobe.

allntrlundrgrnd · 09-24-2008, 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeisNissan

I thought someone was beefin' with Kobe.

that made me chuckle a bit.

i really would like to try some.

and brian you must have some serious self control.

Brian · 09-24-2008, 04:11 PM

Not really... they were just assholes to me.
well, my first boss was cool.
then new bosses came in and were dickheads so I quit one day on the spot.
BAM.

xtheenderx · 09-24-2008, 04:55 PM

Just about the most tastiest beef EVER! Went to a high class korean restaurant in culver city. the beef was marinated in korean bbq

paid about $75 for a plate.

Those cows are lucky. drunk all day with massages and no excercise... every man's dream

DUFFM4N · 09-24-2008, 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xtheenderx

Those cows are lucky. drunk all day with massages and no excercise... every man's dream

real lucky...since they kill them after

***Future240*** · 09-24-2008, 05:11 PM

OKAY ITS ALL GOOD I'M HERE! Invitations must have gotten lost in the mail.

I dont know of any shops around this buttfuck town that would serve or cook beef that good.

What do yall think of "Kobe Style" beef?

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The massive increase in popularity of Kobe beef in the United States has led to the creation of "Kobe-style" beef, taken from domestically-raised Wagyu crossbred with Angus cattle, in order to meet the demand. Farms in America and Britain have attempted to replicate the Kobe traditions, providing their Wagyu herds beer and daily massages.[8] U.S meat producers claim that any differences between their less expensive "Kobe-style" beef and true Kobe beef are largely cosmetic.[9] This has been brought into question, however, because the cattle are fed American and/or British grass and grain, which is different from the more expensive Japanese feed.[10]
After all beef imports into the USA from Japan were banned on September 10, 2001, due to the discovery of Bovine spongiform encephalopathy (BSE), commonly known as Mad-Cow Disease (MCD),[11] many retailers began to heavily market the U.S. raised beef as "Kobe-style". The ban on the import of Wagyu beef to the United States ended on December 12, 2005.[12]

A Spec Products · 09-24-2008, 06:44 PM

Yeah its a big gray area what is TRUE "kobe beef"

But eh first thing I thought when I saw this thread was:

We at the spot to chill, with a Fugee grill
She ordered the Kobe beef like Shaquille O'Neal
Second I walked in, the whole room got still
I don't know how to put this but, I'm kind of a big deal

YouTube - Back Like That Remix - GhostFace Killah & Neyo & Kanye West

LOL

HyperTek · 09-24-2008, 07:21 PM

hows this compare to bison?

kouki_s14 · 09-24-2008, 07:22 PM

Kobe has a grading system using numbers.

I've had grade 7 and dammmmmmmmmm it was good, not sure how high it goes, but i really doubt it gets much more tender than that or if the marbling is really that much better either. Getting a grade 1 Kobe is not going to be better than say prime meats or angus prime meats, so don't try it unless you get a higher grade or you will probably be disappointed.

I have uncles that deal in the meat industry selling meat and seafood to hotels and such, so I've had my fair share of top quality beef.

It's hard to explain how tender and how awesome it tasted. You just have to try it, but expect to pay a premium. I believe it was around $25 a lb(stupid high compared to other beef) for my uncles cost. Restaurants may be charged 30-35 or more and they will charge 75+ for it.

I would say get rib eye Kobe on the grill with salt and pepper. Filet may be more tender but rib eye will have more flavor. DO NOT overcook it, keep it medium.

ronmcdon · 09-24-2008, 07:25 PM

stuff is very good. the fat is well distributed in the meat, and the texture feels soft and marble-like. it's like a fatty version of fillet mignon. kinda like comparing standard maguro (tuna) sashimi to toro (fatty tuna belly) sashimi. Seems to taste a bit buttery too. This is a beef you DON'T want to overcook or over-marinade. You want to be able to taste the flavor of the beef itself, if you intend on paying the premium.

I've had genuine Kobe beef in three places. A teppan place in Roppongi, served as a steak in two restaurants in the US (french laundry and meadowood).

I've had 'Wagyu' at a number of places, and I can say the quality of that really depends on how/where its prepared moreso than anything else. I've had some wagyu that didn't taste any better than a regular fillet, Wagyu burgers that didn't seem special in any way, and Wagyu with Shabu Shabu that tasted no different than regular usda, side by side (stupid idea I know, but I had to try).

I had a Wagyu steak a couple of years ago also at the french laundry, and I can say I personally didn't notice any difference between their Wagyu or Kobe after the ban was lifted (assuming its genuine). Maybe my sense of taste isn't refined enough to notice such subtle differences, or the difference could be entirely negligible.

ronmcdon · 09-24-2008, 07:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kouki_s14

Kobe has a grading system using numbers.

I've had grade 7 and dammmmmmmmmm it was good, not sure how high it goes, but i really doubt it gets much more tender than that or if the marbling is really that much better either. Getting a grade 1 Kobe is not going to be better than say prime meats or angus prime meats, so don't try it unless you get a higher grade or you will probably be disappointed.

I have uncles that deal in the meat industry selling meat and seafood to hotels and such, so I've had my fair share of top quality beef.

It's hard to explain how tender and how awesome it tasted. You just have to try it, but expect to pay a premium. I believe it was around $25 a lb(stupid high compared to other beef) for my uncles cost. Restaurants may be charged 30-35 or more and they will charge 75+ for it.

I would say get rib eye Kobe on the grill with salt and pepper. Filet may be more tender but rib eye will have more flavor. DO NOT overcook it, keep it medium.

good advice. I never knew there was a grading system, and never considered the actual cut of beef. rib-eye is my personal fav, and I will have to try and request that, when it's avail.

florante rea · 09-24-2008, 08:01 PM

kobe beef are expensive, anyone where to get it here in the states?

808_s13 · 09-24-2008, 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brian

I used to work at Kobe Steakhouse

I never got to eat Kobe Beef though.

no wayy? thats pretty ironic
brian

but anyway...
mmm, kobe beef

-makua[ace]

***Future240*** · 09-24-2008, 08:59 PM

fuuccck I want some now

ryguy · 09-24-2008, 09:41 PM

I had a Kobe Beef Cheeseburger at the Park Grill in Millennium Park in Downtown Chicago, VERY upscale cafe. It was the best cheeseburger I ever had. It's 10oz of Kobe steak, a patty of Gorgonzola cheese, balsamic grilled onions and grain mustard, all on a pretzel bun. It's gotten quite a few "best burger in Chicago" awards.

ALTRNTV · 09-25-2008, 12:48 AM

I bought Kobe beef that one time, but it was my mom
who cooked it. It was bomb.

ayuaddict · 09-25-2008, 03:15 AM

its like $250 for a 12oz around here.

stiizy · 09-25-2008, 08:53 AM

does anyone know if BeniHana serves it

BustedS13 · 09-25-2008, 09:19 AM

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Kobe beef in Japan is registered trademark by Kobe beef distribution promotion conference.[2] It must fulfil all the conditions as follows:[3]

Tajima cattle born in Hyōgo Prefecture
Fed by farm in Hyōgo Prefecture
Bullock or Virgin cow, meant to purify the beef
Processed at slaughterhouse in Kobe, Nishinomiya, Sanda, Kakogawa and Himeji in Hyōgo Prefecture.
Marbling ratio called BMS[4] is level 6 and above.
Meat Quality Score[4] is A or B
Gross weight of beef is 470 kilogramme or below.

Contrary to popular belief, the cattle are not fed sake nor beer, however they are massaged and brushed for setting fur and fed on grain fodder. [5][6]

Kobe beef - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

*exitspeed* · 09-25-2008, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by florante rea

kobe beef are expensive, anyone where to get it here in the states?

The Great Steakhouse Steaks from Allen Brothers

stiizy · 09-25-2008, 09:40 AM

That's whats up right here..

Wagyu Long-Bone Ribeye
Allen Brothers' Wagyu Long-Bone Ribeye steaks are distinguished by their rich marbling and the natural "flavor kernel" that runs through each steak. It is this marbling that slowly melts and bastes the meat throughout the cooking process, imparting a mellow, prime rib flavor. Experience this rare and flavorful indulgence as only Allen Brothers can deliver. This steak features an 8 to 10 inch bone and is thick-cut from our succulent rib roasts. Please note this selection is available in very limited quantities.

*DALAZ_68* · 09-25-2008, 10:36 AM

fuck it...im going to japan for th eexperience...ill let u guys know

stiizy · 09-25-2008, 10:37 AM

Aite cool bring some back in ya carry on for me

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stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 39 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Kobe Beef Just like it said how good is it??? Where did you buy it... Post pix... How do you cook it.. I know you know Akademik ... Begin!!

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bluepanda523 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: philly Posts: 127 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	its supposed to awesome because it has a much higher saturated fat content, but those cows are treated like kings till they get chopped up

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ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 32 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	from what i understand they are allowed very little (if any) exercise and are massaged by hand for most of their lives. and supposedly the politically correct term is now wagyu and not kobe gyu, because its not exclusive to kobe.

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xtheenderx Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Winnetka, CA Posts: 185 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just about the most tastiest beef EVER! Went to a high class korean restaurant in culver city. the beef was marinated in korean bbq paid about $75 for a plate. Those cows are lucky. drunk all day with massages and no excercise... every man's dream __________________ crap

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A Spec Products Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Socal! Off 60/605 Posts: 7,256 Trader Rating: (27) Feedback Score: 27 reviews	Yeah its a big gray area what is TRUE "kobe beef" But eh first thing I thought when I saw this thread was: We at the spot to chill, with a Fugee grill She ordered the Kobe beef like Shaquille O'Neal Second I walked in, the whole room got still I don't know how to put this but, I'm kind of a big deal YouTube - Back Like That Remix - GhostFace Killah & Neyo & Kanye West LOL __________________ A SPEC PRODUCTS CORP AME Wheels, Advan, ARC, Gram Lights, Nardi, Personal, Recaro, Works Bell, Work Wheels, Volk Racing, 5Zigen, & more! 626.618.1100 x 103 / aim: aspectuan Advertiser's Specials! Read / Give Feedback! Please Rate Us!

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kouki_s14 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,550 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Kobe has a grading system using numbers. I've had grade 7 and dammmmmmmmmm it was good, not sure how high it goes, but i really doubt it gets much more tender than that or if the marbling is really that much better either. Getting a grade 1 Kobe is not going to be better than say prime meats or angus prime meats, so don't try it unless you get a higher grade or you will probably be disappointed. I have uncles that deal in the meat industry selling meat and seafood to hotels and such, so I've had my fair share of top quality beef. It's hard to explain how tender and how awesome it tasted. You just have to try it, but expect to pay a premium. I believe it was around $25 a lb(stupid high compared to other beef) for my uncles cost. Restaurants may be charged 30-35 or more and they will charge 75+ for it. I would say get rib eye Kobe on the grill with salt and pepper. Filet may be more tender but rib eye will have more flavor. DO NOT overcook it, keep it medium.

09-24-2008, 07:25 PM	#17
ronmcdon Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: beverly hills Age: 86 Posts: 4,254 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	stuff is very good. the fat is well distributed in the meat, and the texture feels soft and marble-like. it's like a fatty version of fillet mignon. kinda like comparing standard maguro (tuna) sashimi to toro (fatty tuna belly) sashimi. Seems to taste a bit buttery too. This is a beef you DON'T want to overcook or over-marinade. You want to be able to taste the flavor of the beef itself, if you intend on paying the premium. I've had genuine Kobe beef in three places. A teppan place in Roppongi, served as a steak in two restaurants in the US (french laundry and meadowood). I've had 'Wagyu' at a number of places, and I can say the quality of that really depends on how/where its prepared moreso than anything else. I've had some wagyu that didn't taste any better than a regular fillet, Wagyu burgers that didn't seem special in any way, and Wagyu with Shabu Shabu that tasted no different than regular usda, side by side (stupid idea I know, but I had to try). I had a Wagyu steak a couple of years ago also at the french laundry, and I can say I personally didn't notice any difference between their Wagyu or Kobe after the ban was lifted (assuming its genuine). Maybe my sense of taste isn't refined enough to notice such subtle differences, or the difference could be entirely negligible.

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ryguy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Suburbs Age: 32 Posts: 1,544 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	I had a Kobe Beef Cheeseburger at the Park Grill in Millennium Park in Downtown Chicago, VERY upscale cafe. It was the best cheeseburger I ever had. It's 10oz of Kobe steak, a patty of Gorgonzola cheese, balsamic grilled onions and grain mustard, all on a pretzel bun. It's gotten quite a few "best burger in Chicago" awards. __________________

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ALTRNTV Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Western Conference Posts: 9,429 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I bought Kobe beef that one time, but it was my mom who cooked it. It was bomb.

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ayuaddict Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Socal Age: 32 Posts: 4,017 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	its like $250 for a 12oz around here.

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stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 39 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	does anyone know if BeniHana serves it

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stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 39 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's whats up right here.. Wagyu Long-Bone Ribeye Allen Brothers' Wagyu Long-Bone Ribeye steaks are distinguished by their rich marbling and the natural "flavor kernel" that runs through each steak. It is this marbling that slowly melts and bastes the meat throughout the cooking process, imparting a mellow, prime rib flavor. Experience this rare and flavorful indulgence as only Allen Brothers can deliver. This steak features an 8 to 10 inch bone and is thick-cut from our succulent rib roasts. Please note this selection is available in very limited quantities.

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stiizy Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: NYC Age: 39 Posts: 6,332 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Aite cool bring some back in ya carry on for me

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