Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

Go Back   Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum > General > Tech Talk > S Chassis

S Chassis Technical discussion related to the S Chassis such as the S12, S13, S14, and S15.


Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-03-2008, 05:53 PM   #1
cheapscheisst
Zilvia Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: LA
Age: 31
Posts: 264
Trader Rating: (1)
cheapscheisst will become famous soon enoughcheapscheisst will become famous soon enoughcheapscheisst will become famous soon enough
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Alternative differential gearing

hey i'm wondering if there are oem or aftermarket diffs that will fit an s chassis that have 3.7 gearing or below. or, as an alternative, does any aftermarket company produce ring and pinion sets?
cheapscheisst is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 07-05-2008, 10:05 PM   #2
Somnambulist
Zilvia Junkie
 
Somnambulist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 596
Trader Rating: (5)
Somnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 5 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Somnambulist
What would you need an aftermarket diff for?

Infiniti Q45 also comes with 3.69 gears and should bolt right in. Are we talking S14 or S13?
Somnambulist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-05-2008, 10:36 PM   #3
SoguRacing
Post Whore!
 
SoguRacing's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: (714)
Age: 35
Posts: 2,967
Trader Rating: (23)
SoguRacing is close to perfectionSoguRacing is close to perfectionSoguRacing is close to perfectionSoguRacing is close to perfectionSoguRacing is close to perfectionSoguRacing is close to perfectionSoguRacing is close to perfectionSoguRacing is close to perfectionSoguRacing is close to perfectionSoguRacing is close to perfectionSoguRacing is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 23 reviews
Send a message via AIM to SoguRacing
stock gears on the s13 diff are 4.083 right? so dropping the gearing to 3.69 would give better highway mileage.
__________________
Pre Tune Checkup! Compression,LeakDown,Vacuum Test $80. Cams Install: $180
SoguRacing is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 06:35 AM   #4
yunk_s14
Leaky Injector
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: sumter
Posts: 144
Trader Rating: (1)
yunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud of
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoguRacing View Post
stock gears on the s13 diff are 4.083 right? so dropping the gearing to 3.69 would give better highway mileage.


i am wondering the same thing
yunk_s14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 06:43 AM   #5
slidingsky
Zilvia Junkie
 
slidingsky's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Georgia
Age: 39
Posts: 409
Trader Rating: (3)
slidingsky is close to perfectionslidingsky is close to perfectionslidingsky is close to perfectionslidingsky is close to perfectionslidingsky is close to perfectionslidingsky is close to perfectionslidingsky is close to perfectionslidingsky is close to perfectionslidingsky is close to perfectionslidingsky is close to perfectionslidingsky is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 3 reviews
S13 Manual Trans has a 4.08 IIRC the Automatic has a 3.96
S14 Manual Trans had 4.08 as well.

There are plenty of US Nissan Differentials that have lower gearsets. This Mainly includes the 300ZX Q45 & J30 with the 300ZX having the biggest variety.
slidingsky is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 07:30 AM   #6
g6civcx
Post Whore!
 
g6civcx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 5,764
Trader Rating: (5)
g6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 5 reviews
As far as OEM goes, Nismo carries 3.7, 4.111, and 4.364. These items are really just OEM parts rebadged as Nismo products with a higher price tags.

If you know what to look for in the parts catalogue, you can find the exact same parts new for cheaper.

The problem I found was that you're really on your own when you start mixing and matching. You either have to spend money at the dealer or at the junkyard, and fitment isn't guaranteed.

Most junkyards wouldn't even let me open the diff to see what I'm getting. There are rumours that a bunch of cars fit, but I want to see for myself.

So if you don't mind digging through the junkyard to find the right ring and pinion with the right bolt size, then go for it. Report back what you find.

I'm personally thinking of doing a Ford 9" swap to get better ratio.
g6civcx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 07:31 AM   #7
g6civcx
Post Whore!
 
g6civcx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Virginia, USA
Posts: 5,764
Trader Rating: (5)
g6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfectiong6civcx is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 5 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by SoguRacing View Post
stock gears on the s13 diff are 4.083 right? so dropping the gearing to 3.69 would give better highway mileage.
Not necessarily true. Usually lowering cruising RPM helps with fuel economy, but it's better to cruise exactly at torque peak because this is the point where your engine is the most efficient, i.e. the engine can use less fuel to make more torque for cruising.
g6civcx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 05:04 PM   #8
cheapscheisst
Zilvia Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: LA
Age: 31
Posts: 264
Trader Rating: (1)
cheapscheisst will become famous soon enoughcheapscheisst will become famous soon enoughcheapscheisst will become famous soon enough
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by Somnambulist View Post
What would you need an aftermarket diff for?

Infiniti Q45 also comes with 3.69 gears and should bolt right in. Are we talking S14 or S13?
it's an s14, and yeah i've heard about the q45, but wanted to make sure it would fit correctly. also, could i transfer my kaaz 2way from my stock diff to the q45? as people mentioned above, i'm doing this for better gas mileage and better top end once i get a larger turbo.
cheapscheisst is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-07-2008, 07:36 PM   #9
xkamikazestormx
Post Whore!
 
xkamikazestormx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: California
Posts: 2,786
Trader Rating: (14)
xkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 14 reviews
btw the j30s are 3.9 not 3.6
xkamikazestormx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2008, 06:48 AM   #10
yunk_s14
Leaky Injector
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: sumter
Posts: 144
Trader Rating: (1)
yunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud ofyunk_s14 has much to be proud of
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
thanks for the help
yunk_s14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2008, 10:03 AM   #11
Ali 556
Zilvia Junkie
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Far Far Away......
Posts: 359
Trader Rating: (0)
Ali 556 is a well-known jackass
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
HoW To Swap Q45 Into S13/S14 :

http://forums2.freshalloy.com/showthread.php?t=172393

Hope This Help,

Regardas,

Ali
__________________
'95 S14 Se With HKS's - BREMBO's - ES/SPL.
Ali 556 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-08-2008, 06:00 PM   #12
Somnambulist
Zilvia Junkie
 
Somnambulist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 596
Trader Rating: (5)
Somnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfectionSomnambulist is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 5 reviews
Send a message via AIM to Somnambulist
Quote:
Originally Posted by cheapscheisst View Post
it's an s14, and yeah i've heard about the q45, but wanted to make sure it would fit correctly. also, could i transfer my kaaz 2way from my stock diff to the q45? as people mentioned above, i'm doing this for better gas mileage and better top end once i get a larger turbo.
Not sure about that.. I guess you might be able to since they're both R200 diffs..

Someone else might know for sure.
Somnambulist is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 03:00 PM   #13
952jz240sxr
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: chii
Age: 38
Posts: 35
Trader Rating: (0)
952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i picked up a q45 diff and put s15 internals in there. the gearing was 3.54.
you also dont have to worry about that 12mm and 13mm bolt thing. the q45 uses 13mm bolts just like the s15
952jz240sxr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-09-2008, 03:42 PM   #14
xkamikazestormx
Post Whore!
 
xkamikazestormx's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Location: California
Posts: 2,786
Trader Rating: (14)
xkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfectionxkamikazestormx is close to perfection
Feedback Score: 14 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by 952jz240sxr View Post
i picked up a q45 diff and put s15 internals in there. the gearing was 3.54.
you also dont have to worry about that 12mm and 13mm bolt thing. the q45 uses 13mm bolts just like the s15
thats weird. if you used the s15s ring and pinion the gearing should be 4.1
xkamikazestormx is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-10-2008, 11:49 AM   #15
952jz240sxr
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: chii
Age: 38
Posts: 35
Trader Rating: (0)
952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices952jz240sxr has made poor choices
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
i have the s15 torsen in a q45 diff. so i have 3.54 gearing
952jz240sxr is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07-16-2008, 11:19 PM   #16
cheapscheisst
Zilvia Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: LA
Age: 31
Posts: 264
Trader Rating: (1)
cheapscheisst will become famous soon enoughcheapscheisst will become famous soon enoughcheapscheisst will become famous soon enough
Feedback Score: 1 reviews
Quote:
Originally Posted by 952jz240sxr View Post
i have the s15 torsen in a q45 diff. so i have 3.54 gearing
so you're saying that i should be able to transfer my kaaz directly from my s14 drive gear onto the q45 one?
cheapscheisst is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:47 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2021, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
vB.Sponsors
Copyright © 1998 - 2019, Zilvia.net™