17x9 +17 offset running 235/45/17 on S14 front? - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

EndLeSS8 · 06-19-2009, 02:07 AM

Hey guys, I need some help on tire size and front wheel clearance, before I buy the wheels and tires. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance.

Car is a 97 S14, stock front fenders
Running on -1.8" lowering springs and KYB AGX shocks
Currently stock wheels (16x6.5 +40) on 225/50/16 tires
Still have stock fender liner, and plan to keep it unless I have to remove it
-1.7" camber all around
I have about 0.5" (about 12mm) of clearance from the widest point of the tires to the shock.
Willing to do a roll+ slight pull if I have to, but prefer not to
I don't want to run stretched tires

The wheels I'm looking to get are 17x9 +17.
I'm looking to roll on 235/45/17 tires, with the same suspension (same lowering springs, KYB AGX shocks) with same negative camber, hopefully no roll needed

I'm pretty sure the wheel will fit properly, but will the tire hit the shock?
Will the tire hit the fender, or will it clear?

DreamN · 06-19-2009, 02:31 AM

That tire is too tall. 235/40/17 is what you should buy. Too answer your question though, you should clear with ease. Doubt your low enough on shocks and springs to require a roll.

Oh and this is my opinion only, but I feel a 245/40/17 would be perfect.

Homer_Simpson · 06-19-2009, 02:37 AM

Like DreamN said, too tall.

xs240 · 06-19-2009, 07:18 AM

i clear 255s on 17x9+17 on my s13, u should have less trouble on ur s14 check the maximum tire thread... and my fron and rear fenders are flush, the rear was pulled more than the front though but ever so slightly.

Also I used to have kyb agx's before my custom coilover setup. The KYB AGX fit perfectly with stech springs on this combo... even MORE inner clearance.

The only modifications I had to do was mash the seams and slightly tighten the harness... since i run more caster, i had to modify lightly the front fender bottom liner.

-3.0 front camber, -1.8 rear camber

EndLeSS8 · 06-19-2009, 08:14 AM

I'm planning to run 18x9.5 +12 in the rear with a 245/40/18 tire as a staggered set with the front.

Will this setup look strange with the 245/40/17 in the front (because the entire front wheel+tire is smaller in diameter than the rear) and make the front of the car lower than the rear? Or will it look ok?

DreamN · 06-19-2009, 08:27 AM

What is it with you and these tall ass tires? 245/40/18 is an inch taller than stock.

Why even stagger in tire widths if it's only going to be 10mm? No real point in my opinion, but it's on you.

Any tire over 225 and especially a 40 series will be taller in the rear than your fronts. Not to mention you are planning to run staggered diameters. Either way front will always be lower even if you were rocking stockies. It's just how it works.

Besides, if you were to run those freakishly tall tires that you want it'd look horrible because you'll have some crazy tall rubber up front surrounding your wheel and a lower profile tire in the rear.

Any way if you're stuck on 235 and 245 then run the following: 235/40/17 up front, 245/35/18 in the rear.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-19-2009, 10:22 PM

Im running 17x9 +22 on 255/40 17s Nitto NT01s for my track wheels...clears everything.

EndLeSS8 · 06-19-2009, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamN

What is it with you and these tall ass tires? 245/40/18 is an inch taller than stock.

Why even stagger in tire widths if it's only going to be 10mm? No real point in my opinion, but it's on you.

Any tire over 225 and especially a 40 series will be taller in the rear than your fronts. Not to mention you are planning to run staggered diameters. Either way front will always be lower even if you were rocking stockies. It's just how it works.

Besides, if you were to run those freakishly tall tires that you want it'd look horrible because you'll have some crazy tall rubber up front surrounding your wheel and a lower profile tire in the rear.

Any way if you're stuck on 235 and 245 then run the following: 235/40/17 up front, 245/35/18 in the rear.

Taller tires minimize the wheel gap, so the car looks a bit better

How would 235/40/17 front and 255/35/18 rear look and fit?
245/35/18 really limits my tire options.

DreamN · 06-20-2009, 12:12 AM

taller tires never make a car look better in my opinion.

I only offered those sizes since you didn't mention about going any wider.

235/40/17 and 255/35/18 would be my pick if you wanted a staggered setup. They'll fit fine. Take fliprayzin as an example. If you keep asking these questions though it's just going to get annoying. Search for cars with the same sizes you're looking at. I'm sure there are plenty.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-20-2009, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EndLeSS8

Taller tires minimize the wheel gap, so the car looks a bit better

How would 235/40/17 front and 255/35/18 rear look and fit?
245/35/18 really limits my tire options.

YOURE DOING IT WRONG. You want to minimize the wheel gap, lower the damn car.

I suggest you look up tire calculators in google. Punch in 205/55 16s for a starting reference since thats the stock wheel size on S14s. From there, start playing around with tire sizes to see how much more bigger each size will be. Personally, I think 235/40/17 and 255/35/18 looks okay, theyre actually smaller than stock and still acceptable.

For my daily, im running 265/35 18s in the rear with 235/40s in the front. Fronts are a bit taller, figured ill shred the 265s and run 275s to make up for it.

Fronts, 235/40 18 Dunlop Star Specs and 265/35 18 Bridgestone B5000

PS: Dont mind the stretch...Im running staggered 18x10 +18 and 18x11 +19

DreamN · 06-20-2009, 04:35 AM

Damn how I despise your kit, but your wheel sizing and tire size make up for it big time.

I'm currently running 235s up front and 255s in the rear. Current wheels are 350Z 17X7.5 & 17X8. Wish I had beefier wheels

*fliprayzin240sx* · 06-21-2009, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DreamN

Damn how I despise your kit, but your wheel sizing and tire size make up for it big time.

I'm currently running 235s up front and 255s in the rear. Current wheels are 350Z 17X7.5 & 17X8. Wish I had beefier wheels

You and me both...only reason its there is because its been there from the day I got it. I'd rather not buy another bodykit and deal with matching the paint when the chassis will be together for another 2 yrs before it goes into the junkyard. Fuck this TARGET Bodykit...its the ugliest fucking kit next to the Bomex kit. Only thing it got going for it is nobody else rocks it...then again, its probably cuz its so fucking ugly.

EndLeSS8 · 06-23-2009, 12:17 AM

Thanks guys for the help, much appreciated.

Do I need to do any rolling or removing the fender liner if I run 245/40/17 in the front? It's close to stock size, and I'm still going to be on -1.8" springs+shocks.
Spring perch and strut are going to be fine, but I'm thinking the tire might rub on the fender liner.

Looking to keep my -1.7degrees camber all around.
235/40/17 + 255/35/18 together gives me limited tire options, and I don't want to run different tires for front/rear.

EndLeSS8 · 06-23-2009, 08:01 PM

yo, any help?

driven_ · 06-23-2009, 09:38 PM

i have 17x9 +45's test fitted em and i should be ok with a 10mm spacer. Lol.

palmdale_mob · 06-23-2009, 10:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xs240

i clear 255s on 17x9+17 on my s13

I am so jealous, thats what I want to accomplish by the end of the year

I just put on 215's and started rubbing lol, I have some work to do

EndLeSS8 · 06-24-2009, 01:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driven_

i have 17x9 +45's test fitted em and i should be ok with a 10mm spacer. Lol.

I was asking for 245 TIRE WIDTH, not +45 offset

06-19-2009, 02:07 AM	#1
EndLeSS8 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Burnaby, Canada Posts: 595 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	17x9 +17 offset running 235/45/17 on S14 front? Hey guys, I need some help on tire size and front wheel clearance, before I buy the wheels and tires. Any help would be greatly appreciated, thanks in advance. Car is a 97 S14, stock front fenders Running on -1.8" lowering springs and KYB AGX shocks Currently stock wheels (16x6.5 +40) on 225/50/16 tires Still have stock fender liner, and plan to keep it unless I have to remove it -1.7" camber all around I have about 0.5" (about 12mm) of clearance from the widest point of the tires to the shock. Willing to do a roll+ slight pull if I have to, but prefer not to I don't want to run stretched tires The wheels I'm looking to get are 17x9 +17. I'm looking to roll on 235/45/17 tires, with the same suspension (same lowering springs, KYB AGX shocks) with same negative camber, hopefully no roll needed I'm pretty sure the wheel will fit properly, but will the tire hit the shock? Will the tire hit the fender, or will it clear? __________________ 268generation.com -United for His Renown-

06-19-2009, 02:31 AM	#2
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	That tire is too tall. 235/40/17 is what you should buy. Too answer your question though, you should clear with ease. Doubt your low enough on shocks and springs to require a roll. Oh and this is my opinion only, but I feel a 245/40/17 would be perfect. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

06-19-2009, 08:14 AM	#5
EndLeSS8 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Burnaby, Canada Posts: 595 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	I'm planning to run 18x9.5 +12 in the rear with a 245/40/18 tire as a staggered set with the front. Will this setup look strange with the 245/40/17 in the front (because the entire front wheel+tire is smaller in diameter than the rear) and make the front of the car lower than the rear? Or will it look ok? __________________ 268generation.com -United for His Renown-

06-19-2009, 08:27 AM	#6
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	What is it with you and these tall ass tires? 245/40/18 is an inch taller than stock. Why even stagger in tire widths if it's only going to be 10mm? No real point in my opinion, but it's on you. Any tire over 225 and especially a 40 series will be taller in the rear than your fronts. Not to mention you are planning to run staggered diameters. Either way front will always be lower even if you were rocking stockies. It's just how it works. Besides, if you were to run those freakishly tall tires that you want it'd look horrible because you'll have some crazy tall rubber up front surrounding your wheel and a lower profile tire in the rear. Any way if you're stuck on 235 and 245 then run the following: 235/40/17 up front, 245/35/18 in the rear. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

06-19-2009, 10:22 PM	#7
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Im running 17x9 +22 on 255/40 17s Nitto NT01s for my track wheels...clears everything. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

06-19-2009, 02:37 AM	#3
Homer_Simpson Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Back in the Bay! Posts: 619 Trader Rating: (11) Feedback Score: 11 reviews	Like DreamN said, too tall.

06-19-2009, 07:18 AM	#4
xs240 BANNED Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: . Posts: 437 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	i clear 255s on 17x9+17 on my s13, u should have less trouble on ur s14 check the maximum tire thread... and my fron and rear fenders are flush, the rear was pulled more than the front though but ever so slightly. Also I used to have kyb agx's before my custom coilover setup. The KYB AGX fit perfectly with stech springs on this combo... even MORE inner clearance. The only modifications I had to do was mash the seams and slightly tighten the harness... since i run more caster, i had to modify lightly the front fender bottom liner. -3.0 front camber, -1.8 rear camber

06-20-2009, 12:12 AM	#9
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	taller tires never make a car look better in my opinion. I only offered those sizes since you didn't mention about going any wider. 235/40/17 and 255/35/18 would be my pick if you wanted a staggered setup. They'll fit fine. Take fliprayzin as an example. If you keep asking these questions though it's just going to get annoying. Search for cars with the same sizes you're looking at. I'm sure there are plenty. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

06-20-2009, 04:35 AM	#11
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	Damn how I despise your kit, but your wheel sizing and tire size make up for it big time. I'm currently running 235s up front and 255s in the rear. Current wheels are 350Z 17X7.5 & 17X8. Wish I had beefier wheels __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

06-23-2009, 12:17 AM	#13
EndLeSS8 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Burnaby, Canada Posts: 595 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	Thanks guys for the help, much appreciated. Do I need to do any rolling or removing the fender liner if I run 245/40/17 in the front? It's close to stock size, and I'm still going to be on -1.8" springs+shocks. Spring perch and strut are going to be fine, but I'm thinking the tire might rub on the fender liner. Looking to keep my -1.7degrees camber all around. 235/40/17 + 255/35/18 together gives me limited tire options, and I don't want to run different tires for front/rear. __________________ 268generation.com -United for His Renown-

06-23-2009, 08:01 PM	#14
EndLeSS8 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Burnaby, Canada Posts: 595 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	yo, any help? __________________ 268generation.com -United for His Renown-

06-23-2009, 09:38 PM	#15
driven_ Zilvia Addict Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 28 Posts: 884 Trader Rating: (7) Feedback Score: 7 reviews	i have 17x9 +45's test fitted em and i should be ok with a 10mm spacer. Lol. __________________ Find me on MR2oc!

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