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*andrew600* · 02-22-2012, 11:36 AM

ive done new pads, and rotors within this last year, and properlly adjusted the ebrake cable nut. still is super weak and i cant figure out why. is there another way to adjust?\

91 s13 hatch.

*andrew600* · 02-22-2012, 01:32 PM

forgot to add, the brake pedal doesnt feel sloppy or mushy, no brakes locking up so no air in the system either. i just dont get it.

cbcm2435 · 02-22-2012, 01:40 PM

what pads do you have in the rear? some pads dont have a great bite, i know my hawk pads suck with the stock e brake

Edwin562 · 02-22-2012, 01:41 PM

could be the ebrake cable be streched out??

cotbu · 02-22-2012, 01:48 PM

Assuming you've bled correctly and the calipers are working correctly and the pads don't suck. Step on the brakes a few time then pull on the ebrake lever while brake pedal is down. adjust the ebrake nut. Then roll the car or try to spin the wheels, if on jack stands.
They should be locked now!

ILoveMyRHS13 · 02-22-2012, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Edwin562

could be the ebrake cable be streched out??

This is a common problem. I know mine are stretched the fuck out and won't lock up.

*andrew600* · 02-22-2012, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cbcm2435

what pads do you have in the rear? some pads dont have a great bite, i know my hawk pads suck with the stock e brake

i actually do have hawk pads in the rear....

and i will also look into the stretched cable. is there an entire replacement i can just buy???

and ill try to do the jack stand locking thing.

LockOn! · 02-22-2012, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cotbu

Assuming you've bled correctly and the calipers are working correctly and the pads don't suck. Step on the brakes a few time then pull on the ebrake lever while brake pedal is down. adjust the ebrake nut. Then roll the car or try to spin the wheels, if on jack stands.
They should be locked now!

THIS^

I've heard of this working a few times before. I think lot of people forget to properly set their brakes before adjusting the handbrake.

However, sometimes this fails too.

I've had this problem before and resorted to changing everything including the cables but that still didn't help. Its expensive and kinda a pain in the ass too.

Save yourself some time and just get these > Project Mu Brake Pads - D1 Spec - a-spec tuning - engine performance & suspension tuning

Epic lock-up. With them I probably didn't need to change my cables and rotors.

Only downside is they create A SHIT LOAD of brake dust. gotta wipe the wheels down frequently to keep them from turning grey lol.

*andrew600* · 02-22-2012, 03:19 PM

hahhaha i have white wheels

but ill give the lockey thing a try and if no go, ill do cable and pads.

LockOn! · 02-22-2012, 04:27 PM

Also, just change the center cable first. That's usually the baddy.

*andrew600* · 03-14-2012, 03:13 PM

ok so i have done a little looking and testing, and my passenger side actually is locking but there is to much force built up without the other wheel locking to stop or slow down the car enough.

so i jacked up the car and found that on the little block where the cables split. when the brake is pulled they arent even with each other. the driver side the one thats not locking doesnt move at all really like its possibly stuck and the passenger moves as normal. should i replace the cable from here or both or try to free up the stuck cable if it is stuck and not streched.

OutlawLui · 03-14-2012, 03:38 PM

If your serious about your Ebrake, than just do the Hydraulic Hand brake mod

With one of these
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SICKSPEED-RE...74189d&vxp=mtr
u might find a better deal for one on zilvia

You just have to cut into your rear brake line, *not the ebrake cable lines

*andrew600* · 03-14-2012, 05:13 PM

already have a hydro for the other car. not doing that with this one. this is strictly a daily car.

LockOn! · 03-14-2012, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andrew600

ok so i have done a little looking and testing, and my passenger side actually is locking but there is to much force built up without the other wheel locking to stop or slow down the car enough.

so i jacked up the car and found that on the little block where the cables split. when the brake is pulled they arent even with each other. the driver side the one thats not locking doesnt move at all really like its possibly stuck and the passenger moves as normal. should i replace the cable from here or both or try to free up the stuck cable if it is stuck and not streched.

Change the one that's too long perhaps?

I wonder if the ebrake mechanism could be busted on that one side as well but I doubt it.

Idk, when I did this last year I remember seeing the same thing and tried to do everything one part at a time but it turned into a goose chase and eventually everything was replaced haha.

dawnattack · 03-17-2012, 11:50 PM

try to tighten the nut just below ebrake handle..

ziptie · 03-18-2012, 05:41 AM

I have had exactly the same problem.

Don't bother with 33 handbrakes, hydro etc

Instal Project Mu d1 Spec brake pads

and

Uras hand brake assistors (you can copies of them here gktech.com.au for $30, unsure what postage to USA will be- not much i imagine.)

It went from not locking at all on lock, to locking in a straight line everytime, with minimal effort.

02-22-2012, 11:36 AM	#1
andrew600 ill tongue punch her fart box Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bethalto, il Age: 31 Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	weak ebrake, no lock. ive done new pads, and rotors within this last year, and properlly adjusted the ebrake cable nut. still is super weak and i cant figure out why. is there another way to adjust?\ 91 s13 hatch.

02-22-2012, 01:48 PM	#5
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 47 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Assuming you've bled correctly and the calipers are working correctly and the pads don't suck. Step on the brakes a few time then pull on the ebrake lever while brake pedal is down. adjust the ebrake nut. Then roll the car or try to spin the wheels, if on jack stands. They should be locked now! __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"

02-22-2012, 04:27 PM	#10
LockOn! Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: MAPLE BLOCC Posts: 1,070 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Also, just change the center cable first. That's usually the baddy. __________________

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OutlawLui Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Anaheim CA Age: 35 Posts: 1,491 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	If your serious about your Ebrake, than just do the Hydraulic Hand brake mod With one of these http://www.ebay.com/itm/SICKSPEED-RE...74189d&vxp=mtr u might find a better deal for one on zilvia You just have to cut into your rear brake line, *not the ebrake cable lines __________________ .

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02-22-2012, 01:32 PM	#2
andrew600 ill tongue punch her fart box Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bethalto, il Age: 31 Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	forgot to add, the brake pedal doesnt feel sloppy or mushy, no brakes locking up so no air in the system either. i just dont get it.

02-22-2012, 01:40 PM	#3
cbcm2435 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: May 2009 Location: Illinois Age: 30 Posts: 351 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	what pads do you have in the rear? some pads dont have a great bite, i know my hawk pads suck with the stock e brake

02-22-2012, 01:41 PM	#4
Edwin562 Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Whittier (562) Age: 31 Posts: 4,721 Trader Rating: (35) Feedback Score: 35 reviews	could be the ebrake cable be streched out??

02-22-2012, 03:19 PM	#9
andrew600 ill tongue punch her fart box Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bethalto, il Age: 31 Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	hahhaha i have white wheels but ill give the lockey thing a try and if no go, ill do cable and pads.

03-14-2012, 03:13 PM	#11
andrew600 ill tongue punch her fart box Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bethalto, il Age: 31 Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	ok so i have done a little looking and testing, and my passenger side actually is locking but there is to much force built up without the other wheel locking to stop or slow down the car enough. so i jacked up the car and found that on the little block where the cables split. when the brake is pulled they arent even with each other. the driver side the one thats not locking doesnt move at all really like its possibly stuck and the passenger moves as normal. should i replace the cable from here or both or try to free up the stuck cable if it is stuck and not streched.

03-14-2012, 05:13 PM	#13
andrew600 ill tongue punch her fart box Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bethalto, il Age: 31 Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	already have a hydro for the other car. not doing that with this one. this is strictly a daily car.

03-17-2012, 11:50 PM	#15
dawnattack Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: southern california Posts: 217 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	try to tighten the nut just below ebrake handle..

03-18-2012, 05:41 AM	#16
ziptie Leaky Injector Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Melbourne, Australia Age: 30 Posts: 116 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I have had exactly the same problem. Don't bother with 33 handbrakes, hydro etc Instal Project Mu d1 Spec brake pads and Uras hand brake assistors (you can copies of them here gktech.com.au for $30, unsure what postage to USA will be- not much i imagine.) It went from not locking at all on lock, to locking in a straight line everytime, with minimal effort.