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08-22-2010, 09:46 AM | #1 |
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Power Steering+AN Lines + Cooler=Good times!
So ive had some members PM me about my PowerSteering Setup. so i figured i would post a quick how to.
Rack Return 16x1.5 O ringed to -6AN 991955ERL Rack High Pressure 14x1.5 O-ringed -6AN 991954ERL Pump High Pressure 16x1.5 Crush Washer -6AN 9919DFJERL For the line I bought 2 feet…only used about 1.5 feet or so.. of 130006ERL Power steering hose. and 2 of theses 139106ERL 90* -6AN hose ends for Power steering hose. For the cooler I got a small cooler off ebay with -6AN inlet and outlet. You will also need 1 -6AN weld on fitting 2-10AN weld on fittings Then I decided to be a little cheap and used Summit Racing Push Lok hose and fittings so I got 3 feet of -10AN (5/8ths ID) hose 6 feet of -6 AN (3/8ths ID) hose 2 Straight -10AN push lock fittings 4 90* -6AN push lock fittings I took the resivor off and had the -6 fitting welded to it (return side, side of the resivor) and the -10 fitting welded on as well (feed side, the bottom of the resivor) It should be noted that there is a small filter inside the reservoir I didn’t notice it and it melted Then I took the feed fitting off the pump and had the other -10AN fitting welded to it. so the way the system works it as follows….resivor Ã*10line Ã*pump Ã* -6 high pressure P/S line Ã* rack Ã* -6 pushlock hose Ã* P/S cooler Ã* resivor. All the Earls fittings I used came from ANplumbing.com And push lock hose and fittings came from SummitRacing.com Curently i dont have my Cooler mounted yet as i have to find a proper location for it. THANKS!!!
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08-22-2010, 11:55 AM | #2 |
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Yeah, this thread rocks! Finally a good guide on power steering lines.
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08-22-2010, 12:06 PM | #3 |
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assuming that youve driven the car with this, did you notice that your steering is ... well sloppy .. i have an an fitting line setup and there is no resistance in my steering which is ok i suppose but sometimes it feels sloppy and almost feels as if its streering itself
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08-22-2010, 12:22 PM | #4 | |
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the only change that is make to the PS system is the removal of the stock cooling loop and replacing it with an extenal cooler. Furthermore it (the cooler) is on the return side and should have no negative effect on the perfomrnace of the system, providing that it is properly filled and bled.
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08-22-2010, 03:01 PM | #7 |
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the high pressure line was roughly $70 with the hose ends, rack fittings and pump fitting.
~$40 for the 4 90* summitracing hose ends (-6AN) ~$12 for the 2 straight summitracing hose ends (-10AN) ~$32 for the -10AN hose...but thats 10feet of it ~$25 for the -6AN hose...but thats 10feet of it i dont remember how much the weld on fittings were or the cooler. but overall the complete set-up should be a little less then $250 or so..
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08-22-2010, 03:55 PM | #8 |
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The problem of no "feel" in steering comes from no flow restriction. there is a way to adjust the amount of flow when you replace all the hardlines with this setup from the pump itself..but that involves in taking apart the pump itself.
Cool write up man!
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08-22-2010, 05:35 PM | #9 | |
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good to know...is there a restrictor in the high pressure line???
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08-22-2010, 05:45 PM | #10 |
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so awesome man!
got this shit saved!
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08-22-2010, 08:01 PM | #13 | |
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I don't have this baller of a setup, but I do have my high pressure line in newer 7000psi rated hose with cooler for the return side before the reservoir on my S13, and i haven't felt major difference in feel of steering. I just doesn't leak any more or boil. lol
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08-22-2010, 09:32 PM | #15 |
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Great job.
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08-23-2010, 07:21 AM | #16 |
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Thanks!!! i will try to update this once i get the cooler installed and the lines run. i just need to find a sutable location for it.
i would have LOVED to do all Earls fittings and braided SS lines but that shit adds up soo quickly...
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08-23-2010, 08:31 AM | #17 |
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I'm not to familiar with power steering set-ups and I'm sorry if this was gone over earlier but where is the pressure sensor located? Is it in-between any lines or in the pump or reservoir? I was just wondering if you removed the sensor or if it remains unchanged?
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08-23-2010, 08:38 AM | #18 | |
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08-23-2010, 11:27 AM | #19 |
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Push-lock fittings and hose doesn't require clamps... but I understand the psychology of that 'extra measure' for safety. Now that I look at it again, those fittings from summit don't look like true pushlock fittings (don't see the plastic rings) so the clamps in this case are a good idea.
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08-23-2010, 12:25 PM | #20 | |
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push locks are generally used for plastic/pcv type hoses... and on the clamp situation ideally these fitting would use Oetiker clamps but given the fact that there probably wont be a great deal of heat cycling like in an oil cooler or trans cooler worm gears should work out well.. plus its a major pain in the ass to remove the hose from the fitting w/o cutting the hose or rendering it useless... on the -6AN lines i had to put the hose in boiling water to aid in slipping it on the fitting. Thanks!
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08-24-2010, 06:54 AM | #21 |
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nice system you got there man! to save you the headache in the future...
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THANKS!!! yea i thought about getting somtihng like that...SummitRacing and Pegasus has some nice ones with fittings already. but it actually ended up cheaper going with the weld on fittings and i didnt have to make a bracket for a custom resivor..i still may end up getting a custom one though...just bc is cool....LOL!!!
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FWIW: THe O/P setup works, as it's the exact same setup that I've had for 3 years now. Nice and simple, yet effective. No more pink milkshake after a HPDE session.
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often times you can have a highpressure line built very cheaply at a hydrolic (sp) shop, with crimped ends.
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Honestly i wouldnt see any real "benifit" from doing it, unless the hard lines are trash, which in most super low cars it probably is...lol!
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Another thing for those doing this: While the crush washer is meant to be the main seal where the fittings thread into the block, it's not a bad idea to also use some Hydraulic/ATF safe thread sealent there as well. http://www.permatex.com/products/Aut...ad_Sealant.htm I use that on many jobs and never have an issue with them sealing.
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