kingkilburn

That is true except that any DOD networks can be made physically separate from the rest of the net. That means that as soon as they pull the external plug the enemy no longer has access.

They can still spread misinformation and hack/attack the rest of the net but I wouldn't say any one nation has a sizable advantage over the others. The lurkers of the net itself(4chan and the like) probably wield far more power in that respect than any nation.

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supervenom

The laser can create a plume of excited gasses through which nothing can pass. Just like HAARP. Rail gun projectiles do not travel fast enough to strike the target before disintegrating while traveling through the heat plume.

Our systems can run independent from the rest of the net. Again, HAARP can be a method of communication.

The USA, Israel and India have the most powerful cyber armies on the globe.

PS: Didn't Iran just get hit with a bug that disabled their nuclear power plant. "The most advanced worm ever" they called it!!! USA? Israel?

kingkilburn

High power laser are most definitely destructive but they are like surgical tools for the most part as in they cut things. What you describe sounds more like a plasma based weapon and that is still science fiction at this point.


My only comment on haarp is

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supervenom

Incorrect. Plasma weapon technology has reached and surpassed the level of producing a battle ready weapon; even to the level of being used for stealth as the Soviets have already shown.

That FACT alone means that YES, Plasma has been weaponized.

In regards to laser being surgical in effect..... EXACTLY! The same sort of computer that operates "Phalanx", "Hail Storm", "Excalibur" and other high rate of fire weapons will control the firing mechanism of the active laser defense system. Possible even more advanced. Except that the laser is more powerful than all of those other weapons. Only a momentary burst is enough. A fraction of a second. If that...... And who ever said only one laser would be operational, lol...?

GabeS14

What are you basing your responses on? Youtube videos, personal studies, do you work for an agency? I have seen quite a few videos about this but none of them actually seam truthfull..they all sound like conspiracy theory vids..even thought I believe in some of it, I cant believe it all..because there is no evidence and some of it just doesnt make sense..
I have also talked to people who seamed to know all about it, and I couldn't get them to furnish me any proof or good explanation, it seams they got their info from you tube videos also, which can be very missleading.

Please enlighten me on the plasma technology that you said the Russian's are using... I am very interested in this!!!links or anything where I can read up on it would be great.

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supervenom

For more info on HAARP, you must do some independent research. Take it all "with a grain of salt". You have to understand how some of that works before you can understand its military implications.

Plasma being weaponized..?
Russian plasma stealth fighters
Plasma stealth - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

kingkilburn

Those links are very far fetched and have NOTHING to do with plasma based projectile weapons.

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supervenom

Who ever said it was an "offensive" weapon, lol...?

"plasma based projectile weapon"...? Who ever said anything about that...?

D.E.F.E.N.C.E.!

Weaponized does not mean offence! http://www.thefreedictionary.com/weaponize

GabeS14

Yea, I kinda got the basic of it, I just dont think we are able to actually put it to practice yet, like people talking about Us causing small hurricanes, and tornadoes, earthquakes in other parts of the world..I think that's all B.S
but maybe the communication through HAARP part is possible.

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kingkilburn

This statement alludes to an offensive weapon.

Using ionized gas to absorb and scatter radar waves is not a weapon, offensive or defensive.

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supervenom

You Sir, are an idiot.

Here is the definition of the word weapon:

WEAPON: Weapon | Define Weapon at Dictionary.com
–noun 1. any instrument or device for use in attack or defense in combat, fighting, or war, as a sword, rifle, or cannon.

2. anything used against an opponent, adversary, or victim: the deadly weapon of satire.

3. Zoology . any part or organ serving for attack or defense, as claws, horns, teeth, or stings.

QUOTE: "you're stupidity amazes me!" Pineapple Express - Movie.

kingkilburn

Oh thank you I wasn't sure on that one. I always wondered if I truly was an imbecile.


P.S.
Still not a weapon.

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supervenom

Dude, I'm totally joking about the "idiot" part. Just busting chops, you know...?

But, yea, the fact that it is used for defense makes it a weapon. The phrase "defensive-weapon" comes to mind.

A plasma stealth device or plasma missile defense would both be considered weapons.

By definition.

PS: I am very interested in the type of stealth systems which bends light. I have heard rumors but nothing close to an operational system is available at this time. I would love some more info on that type of stealth system.

Silverbullet

Those are cool concepts for sure for imagination, but functionality wise theres no reason to have giant air crafts. They just become a huge target. Additionally, the heavier they are they more they cost to fly. A Nimitz class aircraft carrier weighs 90,000 tons. Imagine a compatible flying carrier, and keeping that thing in the air.

If the sole purpose of it is to house aircrafts on the go, we already have this: Nimitz class super carriers... And to be delivered in a few years first of its class, Ford class super carriers.

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supervenom

The era of the sea going air craft carrier will soon come to an end. The Anti-Navy is the direct response to the Carrier Battle Fleet.

Carrier Killer Super-cavitation Torpedo
Shkval torpedo (Russia) - VA-111 - Military Periscope
YouTube - Torpille Ã* Supercavitation: Shkval VA-111

How do you intend for an huge slow air-craft carrier to stop this type of weapon...?

What you don't seem to understand is that the future mother-ship would work off of magnetic levitation of some sort. Perhaps even helium. Being fully automated, the weight would not be as great as that of a Nimitz Class. Also, as I have said many times before, active-laser-defense will defend the mother-ship from any projectiles should its stealth become compromised. In addition, the vessel would be much easier to defend if it is not confined to a 2-dimensional field of play.

So, with the advent of the anti-navy and such torpedo's as the SHKVAL VA-111, the day of the super carrier will soon come to an end....

enot767

of the pictures posted:

where would you build this monster
where would you take off (probably have to be the sea)
whats the point? we can already deliver bombs easily, and transport troops relativly quickly.. even tho it is cool, the size is wayy to big for human scale. maybe the wingspan of 2-3 of those refueler planes. anything bigger would be pointless.. at that point you might as well make it space ready

DS562

reviving a dead thread:

here's a link because i dont know how to post video here.
YouTube - Black projects: Does the Aurora exist?
this is the future of air warfare

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BOROSUN

if, it was true... only probably for used recon or maybe just a test aircraft and nothing more.

for bomber used, probably too costly. but, damn it would be badass. like a f-111 on steriods.

upsdude

2 things humans seem to get right:

accessing porn
killing other ppl.

other than that we're complete idiots.

Brian

That was a really shitty Aurora video

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kingkilburn

The Aurora is so real that Nasa brags about it. lol

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Brian

X43 and X51 kick some major ass.

X51 hit Mach 5
X43 hit Mach 9.8 Wowzers. Pretty fast


And speaking of fast stuff, I wish the XB-70 prevailed. That thing is insane. One of these days I'm gonna visit the crash site and pick up a trinket.

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Silverbullet

Those numbers just seem way too high for it to be realistic and function reliably at the same time IMO. Like in that NASA video said, material technology is the limiting factor. It is the same reason the internal combustion engine is so inefficient.


I'd like to respond to this comment also since it was directed at me even though its was months ago:
The point missed here is regardless of what technology is used to fly a mothership, it still requires energy. Magnetic levitation still requires something to generate its flux field. Even if a mother ship uses a lighter weight material than steel, having to house all those other aircrafts and just being the size it is, it certainly will weigh on the same magnitude of a carrier. I stand by my statement

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kingkilburn

Those numbers have been achieved for decades. You think NASA and the air force would release videos to possible enemies if they didn't already have the technology down?

The F-117 was flying missions for 20 years before the feds came clean about it. Who knows how long the stealth bomber has been flying.

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SochBAT

I can't wait for real life Final Fantasy. FUCK YEAH!