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Old 11-16-2010, 04:55 AM   #1
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The future of air warfare: MOTHERSHIPS

Judge for yourself...!

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The air jelly looks super cool. The other two just look like they would be gigantic slow moving targets. I dont see how they would last more than a few minutes in any kind of hostile environment
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I think we've got a lot more shit out there that would be better for air warfare, white projects as well as black projects.
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I like Ace Combats version the best.

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LOL... menacing music does not make a over grown balloon a mother ship. One shot from a 50 cal and that thing is done. Bombs weight tonnes , try carrying ONE with a balloon. The jelly... one gust of wind and that thing is done too.

Those things are probably made for weather stations or high altitude/low fuel options. But yeah, most technology is made for the military, give it a few years and maybe a real mothership will come.
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LOL... menacing music does not make a over grown balloon a mother ship. One shot from a 50 cal and that thing is done. Bombs weight tonnes , try carrying ONE with a balloon. The jelly... one gust of wind and that thing is done too.
Agreed. Hell, let a duck fly into one of its main propellers and it looks like it'll crash.

What I'm wondering though is how that jelly stays afloat. Helium in the sphere maybe?
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The air jelly looks super cool. The other two just look like they would be gigantic slow moving targets. I dont see how they would last more than a few minutes in any kind of hostile environment
Active Laser Defense System will prevent any object from striking the vessel. These are only to demonstrate the concept and are in now way examples of "ready-to-field" weapons.

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Wow. Yea. That's what I am talking about. You power that thing with a nuclear reactor or an "anti-matter" reactor and your all set.

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LOL... menacing music does not make a over grown balloon a mother ship. One shot from a 50 cal and that thing is done. Bombs weight tonnes , try carrying ONE with a balloon. The jelly... one gust of wind and that thing is done too.

Those things are probably made for weather stations or high altitude/low fuel options. But yeah, most technology is made for the military, give it a few years and maybe a real mothership will come.
Active Laser Defense will prevent any objects from striking the vessel. Not that any enemy will be able to see it anyhow. Full stealth is a must for this type of craft. This type of weapon would be best used to deliver drones to an area of operation rather than acting as the attack vehicle itself.

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Agreed. Hell, let a duck fly into one of its main propellers and it looks like it'll crash.

What I'm wondering though is how that jelly stays afloat. Helium in the sphere maybe?
Again, "Active Laser Defense System".
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I can see something like that Air Combat game in the future.
got to do something now that the aircraft carrier is getting dated, and China has a carrier destroyer in the works
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yea air jelly looks cool but dont see what kind of damage that thing will do. As for the other goodyear blimps they suck.
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I would rather see Acecombat's version than put balloons in the air.


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I can see something like that Air Combat game in the future.
got to do something now that the aircraft carrier is getting dated, and China has a carrier destroyer in the works
Chinese aircraft-carrier-killing missile could end U.S. Pacific dominance | cleveland.com

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Yes, China will have a hard time sinking our carriers when they are hovering 90,000-120,000 feet in the air.

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yea air jelly looks cool but dont see what kind of damage that thing will do. As for the other goodyear blimps they suck.
Those are all prototypes for different purposes. Not everything is meant to go out and do battle, lol.

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That air jelly is really cool and yeah times are def changing and quickly at that.
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Those are all prototypes for different purposes. Not everything is meant to go out and do battle, lol.



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Ya I understand that completely.
I'm assuming these would be manned in the same way as the predator drones?
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Yes. The entire mother-ship would be a drone. Everything would be automated. It itself would be like a drone. Deploying other drones and so on and so on. Also, with nano-technology, bombs will get smaller and smaller yet more and more powerful. Imagine a nuclear weapon the size of a pin head.... It would be meant to blow up a house or a tank or an enemy mother-ship instead of an entire city. And something that small could be carried by something not too much bigger than that. A mothership the size of a football could have billions of nano-bots! All of which could carry nano-nukes.
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500 trillion per mother airship .
another 500billion to run and maintain the airship.
who's gonna pay for this shit?

its more likely we get hit by a big ass astroid than aliens attack us to steal our resources. those airship wont do jack shit against big ass astroids or even medium size ones.

i rather have them build muther fucking hover board.
why hoverboards?
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2. everyone wants one bc its a muther fucking hover board!
3. military uses?....troopers on muther fucking hoverboards!!!

hovertech does stop there...hoverbus,hovertank,hovercars, hoverbuildings...etc shit is a endless possibilities.
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i have to agree. all this money could be going into making us fucking HOVERBOARDS! that'd be so tight..
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hmm hot air ballon is the future of our Airforce? lol..
haha i could shoot it down with this:
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I have always been curious about this:Lockheed:X-22A

I read quite a few websites sayign that many Military personell durign the first few days of OIF II saw this disc hovering above some of the US forces shooting at anything that looked like an antenna or communication device.

kinda of youtube paranoia but if you search for UFO in iraq there are a few weird videos of sightings by actuall marines of UFS and strange rays and lights with the night vision.
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I can see something like that Air Combat game in the future.
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China making a carrier killing missile...even if they did, its still hard to accomplish. Too many safety nets to get thru before it hit a moving ship. You got planes that can chase it and intercept it. Anti-Missile missiles to shoot it down, and then if you do get close enough, you still have to clear the Phalanx (radar guided gatling gun).

The biggest danger China has to our carriers is the same shit ever since it was created...Submarines. China has new submarines that up to par with Russia's subs minus the nuclear reactors. Super silent diesel/battery powered subs. I've heard of an incident with one of them popping up in a the middle of a damn carrier battlegroup. Why it didnt get blown the fuck out of the water is beyond me.
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China making a carrier killing missile...even if they did, its still hard to accomplish. Too many safety nets to get thru before it hit a moving ship. You got planes that can chase it and intercept it. Anti-Missile missiles to shoot it down, and then if you do get close enough, you still have to clear the Phalanx (radar guided gatling gun).
Interestingly enough, a few years ago there was some massive training exercise trying to find gaps in our defenses.

The OPFOR was being led an Marine General if I remember correctly.

He took out an entire CBG by using an overwhelming salvo of cruise missiles. While most of them were shot down, enough went through to almost completely wipe out the fleet.

He was also able to completely evade our SIGINT by using messenger that avoided using electronic forms of communications.

Granted, it was a simulation, a lot of which was played out via computers, but interesting food for thought none-the-less.
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They won't be too hard to stop with a RAILGUN!
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I've heard of an incident with one of them popping up in a the middle of a damn carrier battlegroup. Why it didnt get blown the fuck out of the water is beyond me.
I would be willing to bet that they knew it was there the whole time and want them to think they snuck up on the carrier group.

Imagine the results of the Chinese thinking they could really sneak up in a real battle. And boom goes the dynamite.
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They won't be too hard to stop with a RAILGUN!
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crazy scary machine gun:
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Sigh. Active Laser Defense System.

Laser: a device that produces a nearly parallel, nearly monochromatic, and coherent beam of light by exciting atoms to a higher energy level and causing them to radiate their energy in phase.

If it does not move faster than the speed of light. The laser will stop it.

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I would be willing to bet that they knew it was there the whole time and want them to think they snuck up on the carrier group.

Imagine the results of the Chinese thinking they could really sneak up in a real battle. And boom goes the dynamite.
The Chinese are ready to fight a 20th century war. (with the exception of their extraordinary cyber warfare capabilities) The West has mastered 21st Century combined arms warfare beyond any level that the East will reach for the fore-seeable future. And let us not forget, the west created the computer! The "old wise men" of the West would have never let Pandora out of the box if they did not know something we don't about the type of control they possess in regards to cyber dominance.
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Sigh. Active Laser Defense System.

Laser: a device that produces a nearly parallel, nearly monochromatic, and coherent beam of light by exciting atoms to a higher energy level and causing them to radiate their energy in phase.

If it does not move faster than the speed of light. The laser will stop it.

Lasers are cool and all but the Phalanx is like sex through munitions.

On top of raw awesome firepower these things can be linked into multiple radar and other early warning tech to locate an incoming object. Given enough warning(equals not much) these things can and will hit any thing at any speed.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cgpQBZF2sZQ


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Laser = heat energy
Rail gun = kinetic energy
They both have their uses and one is not necessarily better than the other. If you want a hint as to how powerful rail guns are/can be, the navy is working on fitting battle ships with a single railgun that runs damn near the entire length of the ship. That is a LOT of kinetic energy.

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The phalanx gives me goose bumps just thinking about it. lol
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Originally Posted by supervenom View Post
Sigh. Active Laser Defense System.

Laser: a device that produces a nearly parallel, nearly monochromatic, and coherent beam of light by exciting atoms to a higher energy level and causing them to radiate their energy in phase.

If it does not move faster than the speed of light. The laser will stop it.



The Chinese are ready to fight a 20th century war. (with the exception of their extraordinary cyber warfare capabilities) The West has mastered 21st Century combined arms warfare beyond any level that the East will reach for the fore-seeable future. And let us not forget, the west created the computer! The "old wise men" of the West would have never let Pandora out of the box if they did not know something we don't about the type of control they possess in regards to cyber dominance.
You already said it, they own our ass in Cyberspace. The problem is, anything and everything we have is tied into the net. They can manipulate the data we see to make us think that we're ready or winning the war. Example of this, we have an online system called IMDS that we track all kinds of maintenance in (aircraft, comm system, almost anything and everything you can think of that is maintenance related), they can go into that system and manipulate the data to make use think that we have our whole F15 fleet red tagged (aka broke). Until you can verify that you know which planes are good, none of them will be flying. We know that they have infilitrated the DoD network that they can flip the switch and completely cut off our forces online, everything in Western Pacific can be cut off from the rest of the US forces and be completely blind.
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