fiznowler

I paid 2800 for my stock pretty clean 97 SE Kouki in 2005ish. I have had 7 240s over the years. I still have my 97 Kouki that got me hooked. I only have my Kouki and an S13 Coupe that I am working on now. You couldn't buy a totalled Kouki for 2800 today.

RiskyRick

There was no import crowd at my high school, I had never heard of initial d until this fall, and I've never seen "tokyo drift" all the way through. How did I find out about the s chassis? There was two local s14's- one rhd, rb25 swapped kouki, and an sr'd zenki- around when I started cruising the strip. About the second time I saw the two cars out I fell in love.

racepar1

^^^This definitely brought the potential of the S-chasis to the mainstream. That's where I first started learning about 240's myself. Granted I was interested in them before that, but that's when I truly learned how easily and affordably modified they were.

As far as the total destruction of almost all 240's from the drift craze, you can that F&F for that. Honda kids immediately sold their civics to go buy a s13 to smash into curbs. Now all we have left are "missles" or really expensive "clean" s13's left...

cgtdream

I blame all the japan-boy wannabes who wanted to be super JDM Drift tyte. didnt actually believe that folks were like that though until i saw it first hand...

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240sxMac

So I've been reading about these people bashing Honda drivers to switch to 240's to drift.

well I switched from a Honda myself, mainly because I loved the way the s13 looked, it's compact and RWD, which I never dabbled in, which I now love. I do not Drift my 240 too often. I actually plan on slamming it and keeping it clean. I picked up the chassis with a blown motor for 1150, There was no rust on my car whatsoever, which in the midwest is hard to find. upgraded from an KA24E to an KA24DE and the swap was super easy, compared to any FWD engine swap.

the aftermarket for the 240 is pretty insane, so I could see why Honda owners came over to the 240 as well.

I guess that's my 2 cents.

fliprayzin240sx

Yup, I was in Englishtown, NJ when Signal Auto came out to our lil Wednesday Night drift event to have their demo. That was where they met Chris Forsberg and impressed them in his brand spanking new Z33. Few months later, Chris was moving to CA to be a driver for Signal, and the rest is history.

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godsmack

Can't really tell what really made it blow up. I was in oki during the years it seemed to blow up. Before japan I didn't know what a 240sx was. I was all about domestics and was always after a guy I knew for him to sell me his 5.0 over there. Then I bought my 14 and fell in love. Ripped it apart bought a 13 hatch and am still in the process of doing the swap. Had a 5.0 since I was 16 and still DD it for now until the 240 is done and then that car is going under the knife.

ixfxi

because honda owners are fucking retarded



it took them over ONE DECADE to realize that accelerating with the front wheels is GHEY

being stupid (and broke), they eventually switch to the lowest grade of RWD cars:
- miata
- lexus sc
- 240 (even convertibles, which are fucking lame)
- fc rx7 (because fd's are too expensive)

visit any of these communities and you will see stupid "i once owned a race prepped civic, built and sponsored by MEAGUEN & MOSHIMOTO"

its over. ITS OVER.

fliprayzin240sx

If parts for the damn Z33 parts aren't double the price of S-chassis parts, that would be the new civic.

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Fearell

In 2002-3 a couple buddies had them. One knew all about drifting and one had no idea what he even drove. At the time I didn't care about drifting I just liked driving fast. I used to drive a VR4 and was first starting to get into cars and learning how to mod them. At that time I wanted a Supra but couldn't afford one.... fast forward I ended up in a tech school where I met a military guy who had just come back from Japan. Guess what he drove? An SR powered 240! He got me into drifting hard after taking me on a few spins. I bought my two tone coupe in 2006 and a hatch in 2011. I sold the hatch.

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Drifting is cool 240's are cheap...thread

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240boi115

formula drift, initial D, youtube, and wanting to be different( which is now not the case.. i think all these helped out a bit. i will be honest and used to drive a 96 civic coupe and i put all the money i made from my crappy job at the time into her. i was 17 and did all the usual...b18c1 swap, si interior, buddy club wheels, all suspension upgrades, ect.... but it all came to an end when i hydroplaned into the rear of a truck.. (traffic stopped real quick on a rainy day and i got screwed bad...) my car was totalled and my stupid step father made me get rid of it

one week later i see a very clean s13 coupe with a sil front end and i was hooked on the look. i then found out they were rwd and got to experience drifting with my friends brother... i was hooked for life and now love 240sx's and other nissan cars. the fr layout is awesome and got me out of my hondaboy stage maaan i cant believe i used to be like that idk if others have gone through something like this but thats how it happend for me i do like to drift but dont thrash my cars and prefer the cleaner look.

180sxmaniac

Don't take this the wrong way but I'm actually against people who think like that and the reason is clearly here in the states we only get limited numbers of Japan's FR layout sport cars(350z being the exception) so if your only going to dd a car why get a japanese rwd car when the numbers are limited,I'd rather you stick to your honda and leave the 240sx for people who are gonna swap em to SR20s and are gonna drift them or track them(no not strip em and part it out,but actually take the car to the track).

At least here in Socal I see tons of people in the S-Chassis community many of them my friends who all they talk about is I'm gonna do this swap that swap,I'm gonna get bride seats,I'm gonna do a kouki or strawberry face conversion and on and on,but none of em say I'm gonna learn how to drift or I'm gonna take a stunt driving class with my 240sx so I can learn how to control my car.Honestly that's the downfall of this community. If you look at the grassroots of Japan,grant it they have way more options as far as FR layout cars are concerned but even when you look at the JDM videos on youtube almost everyone who owns a 180sx/Silvia is a die hard drifter whether amateur or professional. If your dd your car only what's wrong with your civic?

180sxmaniac

True, if I could do it all over again I would've saved up for a Z and just dropped coilovers and threw some varrstoen es2's and called it a day. Bcuz the Z is as good as it gets as far coming straight from the factory and being driftable. Aftermarket parts are expensive but engine mods aren't really needed on the Z,tons of torque and good power for its weight.

ixfxi

while you're saving for the Z, you may want to save up for a real set of wheels too

i cant believe in this imaginary "if i could do it all over again" scenerio, you're dreaming of knockoff wheels

this is it folks, ROCK fucking bottom

FRpilot

Seriously. When young bloods these days are so broke that their dream wheels are xxr, sportmax, mb, varstoen, or whatever...

If you're dreaming anyways:

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I'm not 50 lol but when I bought my first s13 hatch new off the lot in 1993. The "in" cars were hondas, acuras and dsm cars. NO one was modding the 240sx.

At the time drag racing was really popular at LACR with "Battle of the Imports" and al that.

But I always loved the 240sx because I know of the car's potential so I had all the Hyper Rev magazines and I wanted to learn as much about the sr20det and why these cars were super popular (if not the most popular car) to mod in Japan.

The s chassis was as popular in Japan as the fr-s is today.

The 240sx and ae86 are the only 2 cars I know of that became popular after production stopped.

Circa 2000-2001 drifting started becoming popular in the states and that's when these cars became so popular here in the states.

Speaking of which, I recently got out of the s-chassis game and got this:



Advan Racing GT's would look so sick in black haha

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fliprayzin240sx

^^^Fuck you Norm for abandoning me...I cant get away from fucking S14s for the life of me. I think the only way I can start fresh is if this shit gets stolen from me.

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Norm!!!!! Come back to us.

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usdm180sx

Sorry guys! But I'll always be an s-chassis guy since I've been into them for 20 years now. Yikes!

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Mishkin_707

Is it me or does every ex Honda guy switched to the S-chassis story start with


1. I saw this drifting video

2. It was a cheap affordable RWD to drift in

3. I always wanted to drift

4. Went to a drifting event/show

It's just like today's young people, no one want to grow up to be a cop or fireman, doctor or banker, everyone wants to be "hood" uurrr-body wanna be "thug"

I wanna drift I need a S-chassis, S-chassis were built for drifting, morons!

Stop trying to "drift" and drive the fuckin car, because right after Honda boy crashes his first time he posts it on Craigslist as "his drift missile" for sale or trade for a civic or integra

uraznfriend

completely agree with that
just this past week at a meet
"hey guys I just traded my EM civic for this dope ass drift car, I don't know shit about the car expect the owner told me it has a 350z differential, and the stock KA is fast as shit!"
it was "slammed" to the ground on megans, and some shitty ass wheels

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nekrodev

Not everyone is a sad fucker like that. I had a 4th gen Prelude a few years back and riced the shit out of it. That taught me several very important lessons and I won't be doing that ever again.

I've always wanted a S13 hatch because I love how they look and I love the way the SR20DET sounds. I'm gonna build it up and it'll be quick, but I'm not gonna drift it and destroy it. That's such a waste of an amazing car.

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Tank_4g63

Sorry I bought my 240sx specifically to be a fun daily. Hondas aren't fun. FWD aint fun. I didn't want another dsm, specfically a fwd dsm as a daily, and I sure as hell don't want a honda. But yeah, my 240 won't ever make it to anything other than test and tune night.

As far as "drifting" is concerened. I don't even recognize it as motorsport. Its figure skating in car.

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figure skating is an olympic sport.

aligoodn

Despite the high number of 240sx "missiles" or otherwise beat to shit cars, I think there's still a solid section of real enthusiasts out there. There are still quality companies manufacturing parts for S-chassis cars, everything from aero to suspension to engine components. You can still buy these properly engineered parts new and further support those manufacturers. Unfortunately this popularity doesn't really help Nissan, it doesn't do them any good that a car they stopped making 15 years ago is all of a sudden doing really well in 3rd hand sales. I highly doubt they're going to start making more OEM replacement parts for 240's or anything like that.

In order for the car to survive the way it has, there are going to have to be casualties. You can't maintain this sort of mainstream popularity and be too expensive for a kid at his first job to reasonably afford. Those are the base enthusiasts, the guy who moves out of his parent's house and realizes that he can drive whatever he wants (within his small budget). He buys it because its rwd and it's light and it's easy to mod, maybe he stumbles on what it means to build a car properly and maybe he doesn't. However, a few of those enthusiasts who want to take the time to learn how to build a car properly, the plethora of cheap parts let them make mistakes without costing them too much money. They don't have to pay out the nose to play (initially) until they realize how much of a difference quality parts make and why they might cost 3 times (or more) as much as the cheapest option. Tired of the ride on your megan coils? Buy HKS ones. Tired of your aero fitting like crap? Save up for Vertex.

The general lack of quality in low level parts is an easy way to determine who is just in this because it's trendy and who has a geniune passion for the car. People who want instant gratification can ruin any car with cheap parts that are worse than the factory ones, but for the few that realize if they save their money there are way better upgrades - those are the enthusiasts that keep good companies in business. Without the constant supply of people getting into 240's, you lose that fraction of potential new enthusiasts who care about really building a car. It becomes increasingly hard to build a car because manufacturers will only make what customers want, so you have to find what you want second hand or learn how to make things.

The real enthusiast knows enough to know when he doesn't know enough (that's a real mouthful). And then spends the time researching to understand and fill the knowledge gap. I've been a lurker on zilvia for years (long before I even made an account) and while my latest S14 isn't where I'd like it to be, I know how to get it where I want it. I plan to still own my S14 after the craze is over. I don't go to car meets I'm tired of answering basic questions about it or daily it because I'm worried about someone trying to steal it. I don't drift it either, but when the weekend comes and the weather is nice and I just want to go for a drive with the girlfriend where the road has plenty of curves. That's what my S14 is for.

10 years from now nobody will know what a 240sx is. The drifting craze will have found another platform and the real enthusiasts can emerge again. We can go hang out and just enjoy the 240 for what it is. But beware, because soon after that it's going to start getting really hard to find replacement parts to keep our 240's on the road.

LockOn!

I just wanted to take this opportunity to point something out.

IMO it is pretty easy to spot late comers to the s-chassis. Basically if your car has any stickers from non-car related brands (energydrinks, clothing), or a stupid towhook "charm", I automatically assume your just around for the fad. "jdmtyteherrafrushillestyo"

While were bashing people who come over from Hondas, its interesting to see how the cultures translate. It seems to me Honda communities starting picking up on styling ques brought over from RWD JDM chassis, bastardized them, then brought them back when they pick up a s-chassis of their own. No offense to anyone, thats just what I have visably seen through events and meets in my area since 2006.

Its pretty sad how it ruins the pool of available chassis. 2 cars I had some pride in and sold (86 and s13) both fell to this and I was able to track their painful decline to absolute trash via craigslist over the years.

Oh well.



But seriously, take off the retarded stickers, loose the swag, and paint your fucking cars. Have some pride.

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Hockey is a sport.

Figure skating is an activity for people that want to look pretty.

Does figure skating take skill and athleticism? Yes. Does drifting take skill and seat time? Yes. Are either a sport/motorsport. No.

BTW I love to slide the hell out of my talon, but when I come out of a corner I am usually doing 65+ still. Wish there were more rally-x events in my area. The diff I have don't like getting sideways on pavement.

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SilviaSR20DET

I remember the days when sr20det's were extremely hard to find in the states in 2003 which is when i got my s14. I wanted to put one in but no shops were able to do them for reasonable price or have the knowledge. It was fairly expensive for me since i was in high school and didn't have a good paying part time job to afford it. I believe drifting became really popular after D1 and drifting on youtube that I saw in some of the local shops demoing them. I actually really liked the 240sx being the outcast, it made the car alot more special. A lot of people loved the way it looked but never really found interest in buying them which i find weird. I guess the honda hype was what got everyone to just stick to Hondas instead. I wish it stayed that way....