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240sx Popularity: How did it happen?
So my friend recently bought a 350z and I assisted him in finding the right Z to his liking.One thing I noticed was man there are quite a bit of Z's available and for reasonable prices considering it's one of the few Japanese FR layout cars that was released here in the states in large quantities. Right now would be the perfect time to buy a Z because eventually it will end up like the 240sx as far as it being difficult to find a clean one. So I began to think and I wanna now from everyone out there when did the 240sx become "THAT CAR" that everyone had to have. Specifics would be great. Like what type of people owned most of the 240sx say a decade ago? Was it easy to find an S14 as it was an S13? How much did it cost to buy a 240sx from a private party about a decade ago? Did people selling there 240sx realize the potential of the car? Really interested to hear feedback from everyone!!
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Honda tech members stumbled upon drifting, realized they couldn't do it with their civics, then immediately bought 240s and ruined all of them. Now they have taken over zilvia.
I bought mine a decade ago for 2700ish (1995 SE with abs/vlsd that still works). |
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cheap FR with parts a plenty, very easily swap-able. I assume the Z33s will come down...but not as much, I think its still holding its value because its considered a more expensive car (when new) than the 240 was. V6 vs 4 banger right
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Lucky you,was the car still in mint condition as far as paint and interior etc |
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Basically yes, Honda people discovered what drifting was/is and that's about it. community went to shit when honda buddies from the 90s bought up 240s.... you can also thank tokyo drift. |
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Most likely it was a normal everyday car, that car enthusiasts found out how to swap and then watching touge drifting thought " wow I wanna do that" and started the craze.
It's like any other car man. What made people wanna turbo Chevy Cavaliers? people figure out how to mod what they have.. |
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I'd just take a wild guess and say around the same time the TT supra came out. The cheap teens found an "equivalent" to the TT supra with their budget... RWD 240sx. lol |
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Yea ur right the z33 ain't gonna be as cheap as a 240sx anytime soon but if I recall sticker price on a z was 30k+ now you can find a nice one for less than 14k so they're quickly losing value every year
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I bought a 97 SE brand new two years after graduating high school. It was $23k after tags and shit. The 240 scene has gone way down hill since, it started as soon as people in the states started to learn about drifting and applied their "I want to do that, but I work at McDonald's" mindset to our cars. I remember when I had my 97 people didn't know what the hell it was, I had someone ask me almost daily what kind of car it was.
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Oh and hack job kids were ruining s-chassis' for drifting state side way before Tokyo drift. Initial-D had some of the Honda kids into drifting.
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And that was back when "drifting" was doing donuts in a parking lot. |
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What do you mean "back when"?? 70% of the drifting videos posted on YouTube today are still 1st and 2nd gear donuts.
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I loved the car back in 1996 when my parents were looking at a 1996 pathfinder to replace our sentra I was still in elementary school when I saw it. Years later when I was 16 I was looking for a mr2 turbo but it was out of my budget. I looked for similar RWD Japanese car found a 96 se reminded me of how much i loved the car as a kid and I bought it in 2004. Still drive it everyday never regretted buying it, the car makes me happy.
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True, my 97 was bone stock. My black car now is far from it. So I still get those questions, but it's understandable.
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Sometimes I wish I didnt drive such a "clean" 98, because I cant really go anywhere without someone approaching me about the car.. Sometimes its a little sketchy if you know what I mean.
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![]() I bought my car because I wanted a nice looking and fairly simple RWD car because my dad has Nissan 280zx turbo and he had me daily drive a 1985 Toyota Celica GT-S (also RWD). I "was" looking for Honda Civics, but they were around $3000 range and I found a Nissan 240sx (was looking at 300zx) for $2300 1 owner 110,000 miles. Drove it, felt like the Celica GT-S, loved it. Quote:
Judging by the numbers, I say it sold pretty damn well in 1989 to 1992 "only' because of the following conditions: 1) 1982 to 1991 was the generation were demand for "coupe" vehicles were very high. 2) car was pretty cheap brand new, but I do know the S14 . I actually found previous owner's sales receipt of my 1991 Nissan 240sx was $16K OTD...bought by a college age lady (also found 1992 Santa Monica college booklet). 3) 1989 to 1991 models look better than its competition (Honda Civic and Honda Prelude) Then the numbers went down because of the introduction the 4th gen Honda Civic and 4th gen Honda prelude due the following: 1) Honda's incredibly aggressive sales and marketing to compete with Toyota. You would get cars via invoice price without haggles. While MSRP existed, people would get these cars at almost 20% off of MSRP. 2) Nicer curves to fit the "demand." 3) Growing trend of buyers no longer looking for a "sport coupe" as a vehicle. One of the questions my professor asked me was "Would a new version of 240sx be successful in today's market." I replied "no way, not possible (see 350z sales numbers over the years)" |
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edit: i severely misunderstood what op was asking. thats what i get for strolling around hammered on a sunday nite
![]() ![]() i first started noticing s14s when i was a junior in high school (2003) and knew it was the first car that i would get and spend copious amounts of money on. picked up a '97, in 2007 for $5500 and didn't really do too much with it. small cosmetic things, but nothing near what i wanted to. mainly because i was uneducated and therefore lacked the drive. sold it and got a bike. regretted that decision very quickly and knew i had to get another one. that didn't happen until 2011. only this time i had done my research, research, and a bit more research and knew exactly what i wanted to do and what i was getting myself into. picked up a bone stock, fully running and driveable '95 for $1800. the lady i bought it from got it in 1996 from a dealership lease. she paid nearly 14 or 15k for it. it was auto, SE, power windows, sunroof, typical goodies. i've since done a few minor things. coil suspension (needed something quick and fairly cheap cause rear struts were beyond blown), radiator and fans, exhaust, and it's completely primed and ready for some paint. i've got a ka completely torn down in my garage waiting for some parts that should be coming soon. it's moving along slowly but i'm making sure to do things the right way so i'm not covering up shotty work with patchy fixes. i absolutely love what i'm getting myself into and the culture that comes along with it. |
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They should release something completely new. not a 240sx. not a 350/370z they should make a 200ZSXT! a RWD ( or awd option ) 2.0 Turbo that has a completely new engine. and should also come with other options like AWD, NA or turbo, and A turbo diesel. and it should be tuned for high boost high compression direct injection and get around 35MPG off boost |
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