Ichiba front 5 lug question, are mine messed up? (pics inside) - Zilvia.net Forums | Nissan 240SX (Silvia) and Z (Fairlady) Car Forum

jeb1517 · 08-09-2009, 12:01 PM

This is what mine look like:

My question is, should that spring seat looking thing (2nd pic) be out like that? I mean it's easy to put in but it's like kinked at one spot.

Also, in the 3rd pic, inside the circled area, you can see the rubber gasket or o-ring or whatever it is, is cut in a specific pattern. Both hubs are like that but the original ones I pulled off the car aren't like that.

Lastly, when I place the hub onto the axle/spindle(?), there isn't enough room for the axle nut washer to be placed on. BUT, If I just take the inner and outer hub seats and put them on the axle, the washer has room to fit. So I'm guessing the seats should already be placed inside the hub?

Axle nut washer that i'm talking about:

Seats:

In the last pic, you can see how the washer sits flush. If I place those seats into the hub and put the hub on, it sticks further out and the washer cant sit flush.

jeb1517 · 08-09-2009, 01:02 PM

Basically I just wanna know if it would be ok to just insert the seats by hand. Shouldn't the seats be pressed in? And if I should just put the hubs on with only the axle nut and no washer.

EDIT: I just looked at pictures on the Ichiba site and that outer gasket has the same pattern cut out so nevermind that question.

***FaLKoN240*** · 08-09-2009, 01:43 PM

I already knew what this thread was about before I opened it.

Ichiba bearings are complete SHIT.

I have had 3 sets.

After replacing the first set, the second set's bearings went out again. After that I just pressed the bearing with 100+k mileage into them, and they were fine.

The third set I got were for a friend, and he pressed brand new OEM bearings into them and was done with them.

Don't bother even rolling on the shitty ass Ichiba ones, just get OEM ones and stop worrying about it.

jeb1517 · 08-09-2009, 02:13 PM

Alrite I'll try to get some OE bearings then. Where did you get yours? The ones on my stock hub have about 220k on em lol. But yea you're right, they still work better than the Ichiba ones. Should any auto shop place be able to switch out the bearings for me? I was gonna try pep boys.

***FaLKoN240*** · 08-09-2009, 02:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeb1517

Alrite I'll try to get some OE bearings then. Where did you get yours? The ones on my stock hub have about 220k on em lol. But yea you're right, they still work better than the Ichiba ones. Should any auto shop place be able to switch out the bearings for me? I was gonna try pep boys.

Pretty much any place with a press can do it, when I worked at a gokart place we did it there.

jeb1517 · 08-27-2009, 05:57 PM

Just wanted to update and officially close out the thread. I realized I didn't have the finances to order OEM bearings and get them pressed in. After reading feedback from a few people, I ordered new hubs from eBay. They were $150 shipped and fitment was perfect. So if I had to make a recommendation, I would say stay away from Ichiba.

On a side note, I now have a set of Ichiba front s13 5 lug conversion hubs with bad bearings for sale. $175 + shipping. As far as me needing to sell these hubs to get some of my money back, I would say Ichiba rocks and is the only way to go! lol

KrazyS13 · 08-27-2009, 06:02 PM

What hubs did you get off ebay?? Oem?

lok · 08-27-2009, 06:03 PM

So just to confirm.

You can press oem s13 4 lug hub bearings into the ichiba 5 lug hubs?

projectRDM · 08-27-2009, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lok

So just to confirm.

You can press oem s13 4 lug hub bearings into the ichiba 5 lug hubs?

Correct. And you should always do it. The fact that the OP had the bearings apart without actually doing anything speaks for itself.

5t341tH · 08-27-2009, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jeb1517

Just wanted to update and officially close out the thread. I realized I didn't have the finances to order OEM bearings and get them pressed in. After reading feedback from a few people, I ordered new hubs from eBay. They were $150 shipped and fitment was perfect. So if I had to make a recommendation, I would say stay away from Ichiba.

On a side note, I now have a set of Ichiba front s13 5 lug conversion hubs with bad bearings for sale. $175 + shipping. As far as me needing to sell these hubs to get some of my money back, I would say Ichiba rocks and is the only way to go! lol

why did u keep your ichibas? i rather rock those than ebay ones.
new OE bearings should cost like 110 for a pair

***FaLKoN240*** · 08-27-2009, 11:08 PM

Or you could just reuse your old 4 lug hub bearings I did and the world was ok.

*fliprayzin240sx* · 08-28-2009, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

Correct. And you should always do it. The fact that the OP had the bearings apart without actually doing anything speaks for itself.

We talking about the fronts or the rears??? Thought the fronts are a single unit and the bearings and hubs cant be swapped out by itself.

blackrms13 · 08-28-2009, 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

We talking about the fronts or the rears??? Thought the fronts are a single unit and the bearings and hubs cant be swapped out by itself.

alot of people have done it
swapping the OEM bearing into aftermarket hubs...so i assume its doable

*fliprayzin240sx* · 08-28-2009, 03:12 AM

Again...FRONTS?!?!

blackrms13 · 08-28-2009, 03:21 AM

yes!
cuz most people use ichibas conversion front and OEM S14 SE/Z32 NA rear on s13s...

projectRDM · 08-28-2009, 04:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fliprayzin240sx

We talking about the fronts or the rears??? Thought the fronts are a single unit and the bearings and hubs cant be swapped out by itself.

S13 front bearings are replaceable. S14s are not. So yes.

jeb1517 · 08-28-2009, 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KrazyS13

What hubs did you get off ebay?? Oem?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/5-Lug...QQcmdZViewItem

OEM? You be the judge. The description says at least the bearings are OEM but how could you really know? Unless someone buys these, takes out the bearings and compares them to bearings they know are OEM. Like I said, fitment was great. Also, this guy on NICO said he has these in the rear on his 350whp car and they haven't given him any problems. I figured they'd be fine on the front of my beastly 150whp lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

Correct. And you should always do it. The fact that the OP had the bearings apart without actually doing anything speaks for itself.

Yup. I shouldn't have to, but I took them to NAPA and the guy tried to press the Ichiba bearings back in and he said they wouldn't go in and the bearings suck lol.

Quote:

Originally Posted by FaLKoN240

Or you could just reuse your old 4 lug hub bearings I did and the world was ok.

I also tried to do this but 2 places said there was no way they could press in used bearings no matter what. Obviously it can be done since you and so many others have done it. I was just having trouble finding a place that was willing and was getting frustrated.

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5t341tH

why did u keep your ichibas? i rather rock those than ebay ones.
new OE bearings should cost like 110 for a pair

Really? Could you post a link, please? It's too late for me but maybe it could help others out. I could only find bearings for around $200 a pair plus shipping. And I would still have to pay to have them pressed in. And honestly, comparing the 2 sets of hubs, the eBay ones look and feel higher in quality.

Quote:

Originally Posted by projectRDM

S13 front bearings are replaceable. S14s are not. So yes.

Someone told me that when they went 5 lug, they got s14 front hubs and pressed in s13 bearings and it worked out great. After reading your post, I don't really know what to believe. If you can do that, then that is the route I would take if I could do it all over again. s14 hubs with s13 bearings. That way, the whole setup is OEM and it's a simple swap.

projectRDM · 08-28-2009, 07:55 AM

Someone lied. S14 front wheel bearings are not replaceable. They can be pressed out with enough force, but it will damage both pieces.

08-09-2009, 12:01 PM	#1
jeb1517 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Ichiba front 5 lug question, are mine messed up? (pics inside) This is what mine look like: My question is, should that spring seat looking thing (2nd pic) be out like that? I mean it's easy to put in but it's like kinked at one spot. Also, in the 3rd pic, inside the circled area, you can see the rubber gasket or o-ring or whatever it is, is cut in a specific pattern. Both hubs are like that but the original ones I pulled off the car aren't like that. Lastly, when I place the hub onto the axle/spindle(?), there isn't enough room for the axle nut washer to be placed on. BUT, If I just take the inner and outer hub seats and put them on the axle, the washer has room to fit. So I'm guessing the seats should already be placed inside the hub? Axle nut washer that i'm talking about: Seats: In the last pic, you can see how the washer sits flush. If I place those seats into the hub and put the hub on, it sticks further out and the washer cant sit flush.

08-09-2009, 01:43 PM	#3
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,760 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	I already knew what this thread was about before I opened it. Ichiba bearings are complete SHIT. I have had 3 sets. After replacing the first set, the second set's bearings went out again. After that I just pressed the bearing with 100+k mileage into them, and they were fine. The third set I got were for a friend, and he pressed brand new OEM bearings into them and was done with them. Don't bother even rolling on the shitty ass Ichiba ones, just get OEM ones and stop worrying about it. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

08-27-2009, 11:08 PM	#11
*FaLKoN240* Super Moderator Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 16,760 Trader Rating: (73) Feedback Score: 73 reviews	Or you could just reuse your old 4 lug hub bearings I did and the world was ok. __________________ Best way to do business with me? Make your best offer FIRST.

08-28-2009, 03:12 AM	#14
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Again...FRONTS?!?! __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

08-28-2009, 03:21 AM	#15
blackrms13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: 626 Posts: 2,591 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	yes! cuz most people use ichibas conversion front and OEM S14 SE/Z32 NA rear on s13s... __________________ 91' 240sx Fastback LE

08-09-2009, 01:02 PM	#2
jeb1517 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Basically I just wanna know if it would be ok to just insert the seats by hand. Shouldn't the seats be pressed in? And if I should just put the hubs on with only the axle nut and no washer. EDIT: I just looked at pictures on the Ichiba site and that outer gasket has the same pattern cut out so nevermind that question.

08-09-2009, 02:13 PM	#4
jeb1517 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Alrite I'll try to get some OE bearings then. Where did you get yours? The ones on my stock hub have about 220k on em lol. But yea you're right, they still work better than the Ichiba ones. Should any auto shop place be able to switch out the bearings for me? I was gonna try pep boys.

08-27-2009, 05:57 PM	#6
jeb1517 Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Chicago Age: 37 Posts: 62 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Just wanted to update and officially close out the thread. I realized I didn't have the finances to order OEM bearings and get them pressed in. After reading feedback from a few people, I ordered new hubs from eBay. They were $150 shipped and fitment was perfect. So if I had to make a recommendation, I would say stay away from Ichiba. On a side note, I now have a set of Ichiba front s13 5 lug conversion hubs with bad bearings for sale. $175 + shipping. As far as me needing to sell these hubs to get some of my money back, I would say Ichiba rocks and is the only way to go! lol

08-27-2009, 06:02 PM	#7
KrazyS13 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Murfreesboro, Tn Age: 37 Posts: 464 Trader Rating: (28) Feedback Score: 28 reviews	What hubs did you get off ebay?? Oem?

08-27-2009, 06:03 PM	#8
lok Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 790 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	So just to confirm. You can press oem s13 4 lug hub bearings into the ichiba 5 lug hubs?

08-28-2009, 07:55 AM	#18
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 47 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Someone lied. S14 front wheel bearings are not replaceable. They can be pressed out with enough force, but it will damage both pieces. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

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