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12-05-2007, 09:38 PM | #1 |
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Sea Foam Engine Cleaner....
did a search...didnt come up with ne specific on the topic...so thought i would ask
anyone ever try this stuff in their motor??? ive heard mixed reviews...som say that it works like a champ and others say its actually kinda bad for your engine ive been contemplating trying it out...but didnt wanna try it til i got some input (the head in the SR is a little dirty...wanted to clean it all down with B12 when i had the valve cover off for the rocker arm stoppers...but yah...thought it woulda been a not so good idear at the time lol) so yah...input away |
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12-05-2007, 09:43 PM | #4 |
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I heard the same thing (mixed reviews). Yea I work at a brake and suspension shop with a bunch of old school gear heads and they like it. Me and my friend did it in his firebird (it was a beater, so it didnt matter either way) and nothing bad happened. We didnt feel a difference but it was fun pumping out all that smoke.
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12-05-2007, 09:43 PM | #5 |
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ive used it 4 times. My engine runs great, and it really does help it as far as i can tell.ive got a ka with 186,000 miles on it. Just make sure you follow the directions to a T.
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12-05-2007, 09:47 PM | #6 |
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Be warned that Seafoam can kill a catalytic converter in some instances, and the carbon that it removes from the combustion chambers and valves can clog up the o2 sensor.
Aside from that, Seafoam is great. Just don't suck it in too fast. Hydrolocking is bad. lol |
12-05-2007, 09:52 PM | #8 |
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http://www.seafoamsales.com/motorTuneUpTechGas.htm
that should help. If you add it to your oil, run it for like 50 miles, then change it, then run it for a few hundred, then change it. then you should be good.
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12-05-2007, 09:53 PM | #9 |
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I've used it. There are three ways to use it.
Warm up the engine. Unplug the vacuum line to the brake booster and pour in a third of a can while its running then turn it off and let it sit for a while. bout 15 minutes. then turn it on. The next is to put a bottle in your crankcase run it for a while.(don't' drive it) drain, refill, do it again at 100 miles then again at a 1000 miles. Last, just put it in your gas tank. Works great this way and your car runs like a champ while its in the tank, but goes back to normal when you refuel. I've tried all three ways. Be careful to follow directions on the vacuum line method. I heard of someone setting their car or engine on fire that way. I've used it on a v6 and my sr. cleaned up the idle a bit. runs better. I think really shines through when you've got a real crappy running car. |
12-05-2007, 09:55 PM | #11 |
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ive used it on my 240, but my 240 is low mileage and had no problems whatsoever, so i didnt notice a difference.
never tried it on an engine that was running rough or anything. |
12-05-2007, 09:56 PM | #12 |
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I used it on my old car had like 100XXX+ miles on it ran like it just came off the lot afterwards. Just make sure you arent in a garage when you do it lets out lots of smoke. However, I have heard not to use it on some old cars because supposedly it can cause leaks in lines due to corrosion.
I believe its something like: 1/3 container into the fuel tank 1/3 container into the crank case 1/3 container through a vacuum line I believe you are supposed to do an oil change afterwards but not 100% sure. Works great though. |
12-05-2007, 09:57 PM | #14 |
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you know what else works very well? Ok, flood your cylinders with fuel, then let it sit for a few days. Dry start it a few times, then change the oil and sparkpilugs. Run it for a few minutes, then change the oil again. The carbon and shit comming out of your engine will amaze you!!!
Seriously, dont do that. I accidentally did that to my engine changing the fuel injectors. Im really suprised my engine isnt dead seized... But ti did clean it out good! But dont do it Dont do it, dont do it dont do it... and about driving it. I kinda misinformed you. When i did it, i let it run for about 2 minutes. My friend told me thats how you did it. But the oil wasnt very... oily after that.
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I use it in my cars. Used it in my sister's 91 accord with the old SOHC f22 in it and made a day and night difference in that 200k mile motor.
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12-05-2007, 10:05 PM | #16 |
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i use gm top engine cleaner, same basic principal. it ment the differece of my older ka passing for NOx and not. i just changed the oil afterward.
as for driving, you run the engine during the procedure but i would recomend driving it afterward with the same oil. |
12-05-2007, 10:22 PM | #18 |
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Ive used it on my 130k ka24de, night and day difference.
My car would idle like shit before and it felt very slugish, then i sea foamed it using the 3 methods. Car ran like a new car. But i ve been scared to try it on my sr, would it fuck anything up since its a turbo motor? |
12-05-2007, 10:24 PM | #19 |
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12-05-2007, 10:46 PM | #20 |
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well im runnin an SR with about 65k on the engine (ive had it for about 5 years now)...and ive got no cat and a apexi PowerFC DJetro...so im not too sure about adding it to the gas tank
might try it by just adding it to the crank case and doing an oil change immediatly |
12-05-2007, 10:47 PM | #21 |
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I remember doing this a year ago, I'm sure it's the same method on a 240sx but run it through the brakebooster line closest to the engine:
[ame]http://youtube.com/watch?v=N0-1J0u2RPo[/ame]
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12-05-2007, 10:56 PM | #23 |
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seafoam is bad ass. I've only used it for the fuel system though. I've been told by a friend who has a pretty old school state of mind that it's not good to use in the crankcase with a turbo'd motor. The main reason is because the ingredients in seafoam may unbalance the additives in the oil which could diminish it's lubrication performance. Hence, heat of turbo may coke the oil easier... possibly. but yeah, seafoam is bad ass for the fuel system as far as i know.
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12-06-2007, 04:04 AM | #28 |
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There are better alternatives than Seafoam for all three applications listed.
I would not, at ALL recommend putting seafoam in your oil. I used to be in the Seafoam advocate camp, but I found out better methods for cleaning out your engine. If you want to clean your combustion chambers, look into water injection. I'm not talking about the system to cool your incoming intake charge, but sucking up a 1/2 quart or so of distilled water into your engine while it's hot. Same delivery method of Seafoam, but instead of burning into white smoke (which is pale oil & napatha) it vaporizes & steam cleans your engine. It's very effective for carbon removal. If your engine has lots of carbon buildup, regardless if it's Seafoam or Water, o2 sensors and cats might get blocked due to excessive carbon debris flying out. As far as the gas tank, there are a few off-the-shelf items that are very good. The first one is well known, Chevron Techron Concentrate. Works well & also popular among the Porsche guys. Gumout Regane in the clear bottle with yellow liquid is also good. Make sure you get the exact one listed. Those two are meant to be dumped into your tank all at once. Lucas Upper Cylinder Lubricant is also good, but it's meant more as a long-term thing, adding 2~3 ozs. per 10 gallons of gas. A 32oz bottle lasts me a few months, it's popular on BITOG with alot of the guys, shown to increase MPG by one or two points. The last item that i'd put in my oil crankcase is something you can't buy in the store. It's called Auto-Rx, and it's probably one of THE most popular products on BITOG. It's designed to stay circulated in your crankcase for ~2,000 miles, where it actually has time to remove a good amount of carbon deposits. Do you really think something in your crankcase for 50 miles would do much? There are also two more products that you have to mail order, and they are Fuel Power 3000 (FP3000), which is similar to Lucas UCL & Lube Control 20(LC20), which is an oil additive. Both can be ordered through vendors on Bobistheoilguy - www.bitog.com . Check it out. Shit's hot. |
12-06-2007, 06:35 AM | #29 |
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As you have noticed several people have used the product. If you have a high mileage engine and the previous owner did not take care of it well. Seafoaming the engine can be bad if you are not prepared to deal with the problem it may uncover. As an example: For some people the carbon buildup in the combustion chamber is actually helping the engine by keeping a hole closed up. The same goes for the fuel system. What ever you do...do not be shocked if an issue with your engine comes up after everything is said and done.
Other wise...go for it.
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12-06-2007, 06:55 AM | #30 |
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just man up and seafoam it your idle will be rock solid
i put some in the brake booster line and the iacv line -los [ame]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2815050171826306781[/ame]
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