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GroundPerformance · 03-07-2014, 12:14 AM

After selling my daily driver sleeper KA-T coupe and built S14 SR20 motor, I think it's time to build another decent DD car that's different and still within reasonable budget. I've done few SR20DET and I've always wanted to build an SR20VET but back then all info you have available for the most part are coming from Mazworx and others basically selling you nice bolt on kits for a price. Don't get me wrong they are nice parts and well worth the asking price. But I intend to build my whole built SR20VET longblock for the price of what a fancy intake and turbo manifold.

SR20VET Motor
- Stock Sleeve SR20DET Block 87mm bore
- Probe Industries 10.5:1 CR Forged Pistons
- Eagle Forged Connecting Rods
- Hastings Piston rings
- King Bearings ROD/MAIN
- ARP SR20 Head studs
- New VE Oil Pump/Cover
- Modified VE Oil Pickup
- Cosworth Metal Headgasket 1.1mm
- P11 SR20VE VVL Cylinder Head
- BC1030 Dual Valve Springs
- New Viton In/Ex Valve Seals
- P12 SR20VE CAS
- P12 Single VVL Solenoid
- P12 Ignition Coilpacks
- P12 Valve Cover
- 850cc Side Feed Injectors
- Oil line feed for VVL Solenoid.

Engine Management
- S14 SR20DET ECU - ROM Tuned
- Z32 MAF Sensor
- Moates 64k Daughterboard

Accesories;
- Taarks Timing pin relocation
- Taarks Coolant port relocation
- Gspec Oil Drive Spacer

** Parts list will be updated..**

Objective of the build which is obvious given the parts list is to be a budget build. Also find ways to cut cost where you can..

Preview..

Parts Bin..

VVL Oil Line and fitting for blocking ports.

Need to machine about 5mm on the SR20DET Crank Pulley.

Some mod will need to be done on the P12 VVL Solenoid.

This should clear the firewall.

To keep the build somewhat OE looking I will be sacrificing some flow by using S14 Intake plenum with VE intake flange welded ordered from Mazworx.

Some trimming is involve here..

Nice to have an SR20DE TB than that small DET TB.

Looking to teardown the shorblock this weekend to be sent to the machine shop.. More updates soon..

Silviasurfer · 04-04-2014, 08:43 AM

keep it going

5280VertDET · 04-04-2014, 09:26 AM

Love this, since it's budget conscience will you be posting pricing and costs?

simmode1 · 04-04-2014, 09:37 AM

Stuff like this is why I love Zilvia. Can't wait to see your results. Subscribed.

guntop116 · 04-04-2014, 10:01 AM

Where did you get the P11 head from and what are everyone's thoughts on best way to purchase? Is it worth getting a SR20VE longblock from an engine importer and then parting out the block and other unused bits?

rbs14kouki · 04-04-2014, 07:29 PM

An other ve thread i'm gona follow !

koha · 04-05-2014, 01:42 AM

please tell me where did you get this blockin nuts?

Yellow4g63 · 04-05-2014, 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbs14kouki

An other ve thread i'm gona follow !

I 2nd the motion.

*brndck* · 04-05-2014, 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by guntop116

Where did you get the P11 head from and what are everyone's thoughts on best way to purchase? Is it worth getting a SR20VE longblock from an engine importer and then parting out the block and other unused bits?

its pretty easy to source a p11 head. most people just buy a complete p11 engine (they run $800-1k, depending on if it comes with trans or now) and then just pull the head off. the block is pretty much useless for us unless you were planning to stay NA (see matej)

Yellow4g63 · 04-05-2014, 06:34 PM

Or run over to the fwd forum and put the block up for sale.

rbs14kouki · 04-05-2014, 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koha

please tell me where did you get this blockin nuts?

Its a npt plug ! Any hydrolique or bolt shop should have them in stock !!!

GroundPerformance · 04-06-2014, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Silviasurfer

keep it going

It's moving along..

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5280VertDET

Love this, since it's budget conscience will you be posting pricing and costs?

Maybe after the longblock is done.

Quote:

Originally Posted by simmode1

Stuff like this is why I love Zilvia. Can't wait to see your results. Subscribed.

Can't wait for it myself.

Quote:

Originally Posted by guntop116

Where did you get the P11 head from and what are everyone's thoughts on best way to purchase? Is it worth getting a SR20VE longblock from an engine importer and then parting out the block and other unused bits?

That really is the best way to go. I just happen to score the P11 top end for less and not have to buy the whole longblock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbs14kouki

An other ve thread i'm gona follow !

Thanks!

Quote:

Originally Posted by koha

please tell me where did you get this blockin nuts?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow4g63

I 2nd the motion.

Online and Earls mostly..

Quote:

Originally Posted by brndck

its pretty easy to source a p11 head. most people just buy a complete p11 engine (they run $800-1k, depending on if it comes with trans or now) and then just pull the head off. the block is pretty much useless for us unless you were planning to stay NA (see matej)

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow4g63

Or run over to the fwd forum and put the block up for sale.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rbs14kouki

Its a npt plug ! Any hydrolique or bolt shop should have them in stock !!!

Correct..

GroundPerformance · 04-06-2014, 03:16 PM

Ordered this water neck adapter from FRSport. Not a bad way to add port and be able to support one of the stock SR neck bolt location..

jr_ss · 04-06-2014, 03:55 PM

I just cut my support bracket off and sanded it down.

Yellow4g63 · 04-06-2014, 04:13 PM

How much did those pistons run? I have cp's for mine but only at 9.1. Got a great deal from Wayne @ phase2 a while back. Think it was around 450 with the upgraded wrist pins.

GroundPerformance · 04-06-2014, 06:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jr_ss

I just cut my support bracket off and sanded it down.

I was going to do the same. But given the price and the discount code I received from FRSport it just made sense to do it. It provides function for the extra port and the extra support for the neck.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yellow4g63

How much did those pistons run? I have cp's for mine but only at 9.1. Got a great deal from Wayne @ phase2 a while back. Think it was around 450 with the upgraded wrist pins.

Probe Industries actually discontinued their Import line of pistons so I bought all the remaining SR20 pistons they got both low and high CR. I've sold most of them already here and kept a few for myself. I got them for 150 a set but I did pickup bunch of them.

Face Man · 04-20-2014, 09:50 AM

Which cam sensor are you using? I'm using 92 maxima Se cam sensor. It was $62 from a local import parts store. Would you be willing to sell your dual solenoid Vvl housing?

GroundPerformance · 04-24-2014, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Face Man

Which cam sensor are you using? I'm using 92 maxima Se cam sensor. It was $62 from a local import parts store. Would you be willing to sell your dual solenoid Vvl housing?

I'm using the 20V Cam sensor which I got a decent deal. I was initially looking in the modified Maxima CAS but the expense in machining made me just go to the simpler route. As for the dual solenoid solenoids I traded that for the single I currently have.

driftage240 · 05-14-2014, 06:19 PM

Update???????

Face Man · 05-16-2014, 09:11 AM

Have you shaved the crank pulley already?

driftage240 · 08-19-2014, 10:12 AM

Updates? Or is this dead?

GroundPerformance · 01-16-2015, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by driftage240

Updates? Or is this dead?

Not quite dead.. I don't have the chassis yet for the build but I atleast plan on completing the longblock. Had some free time from school during holiday season so was able to put some work to get the longblock put together.

I did get some additional parts. Nothing crazy..

Finally got the Mazworx oil pickup and Taarks timing pin relocation.

Also after waiting for the backordered SR waterneck I went a got the GKTech version instead.

GroundPerformance · 01-16-2015, 06:19 PM

The SR Block just came back from machining as well. The shop said it was just cheaper to use the plug then than weld/shut or threading it. Should get the crank and bearing ready by next week.

GroundPerformance · 01-16-2015, 06:28 PM

Since this is a low budget build in comparison to most VE-T builds many of the parts here will be reused atleast during the initial stages. Besides its easy to upgrade to intake manifold or turbo setup in the future should we get power hungry. For now target goal is for a Clean OEM look SR20VET hopefully producing power at around 350whp.

- Turbo setup with be a T2 bottom mount using the Greddy turbo I already have and stock SR cast manifold and headshield.

- Intake manifold is using an S14/S15 Intake manifold flanges trimmed/grinded and will be welded on to an SR20VE Intake flange.

GroundPerformance · 01-16-2015, 06:32 PM

I'm sure I will be limiting the capability of the VE head going this route but this really is just the initial stage. I still have the option of reusing the stock VE manifold and Excessive Manufacturing manifold I got for cheap. I will just the setup perhaps as a baseline.

Pic of the S14 SR intake manifold..

Yellow4g63 · 01-16-2015, 08:01 PM

The throttle body needs to be angled down or it's going to hit the hood with the excessive on rwd.

GroundPerformance · 01-20-2015, 03:54 PM

VE head getting some love at the machine shop. Also worked on tapping the port for the VVL Oil supply.

GroundPerformance · 03-02-2015, 11:48 AM

Some update.. Longblock is almost done..

Here's the shot of the SR Crank pulley machine down 5mm with VE oil drive.

Bottom end done..

VE Head Installed..

GroundPerformance · 03-02-2015, 12:11 PM

Put together a basic DIY Pre-Oiler / Pre-Lube Engine Oiler. It's always best to prime the oil before starting a newly built motor. I was able to put this together relative cheap since most of the parts I already have around the garage.

You can build something similar using Harbor Freight parts for less than $40-50. Nice insurance.

Counteract · 03-13-2015, 08:05 AM

I find this really interesting as I was aiming to do the same thing a few years ago, but broke the car before I had all the parts

I was wondering why you were going to go for such high CR pistons? I did a lot of research into this and decided to go for 9:0:1 for 'reliability' - but never got round to buying the pistons.

Mine got this far, would have been a 22VET as I was going for 90mm pistons and had a 91mm stroker crank (I had darton sleeves too ofc!)

03-07-2014, 12:14 AM	#1
GroundPerformance Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 1,477 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	My SR20VET Build. Low Budget :) After selling my daily driver sleeper KA-T coupe and built S14 SR20 motor, I think it's time to build another decent DD car that's different and still within reasonable budget. I've done few SR20DET and I've always wanted to build an SR20VET but back then all info you have available for the most part are coming from Mazworx and others basically selling you nice bolt on kits for a price. Don't get me wrong they are nice parts and well worth the asking price. But I intend to build my whole built SR20VET longblock for the price of what a fancy intake and turbo manifold. SR20VET Motor - Stock Sleeve SR20DET Block 87mm bore - Probe Industries 10.5:1 CR Forged Pistons - Eagle Forged Connecting Rods - Hastings Piston rings - King Bearings ROD/MAIN - ARP SR20 Head studs - New VE Oil Pump/Cover - Modified VE Oil Pickup - Cosworth Metal Headgasket 1.1mm - P11 SR20VE VVL Cylinder Head - BC1030 Dual Valve Springs - New Viton In/Ex Valve Seals - P12 SR20VE CAS - P12 Single VVL Solenoid - P12 Ignition Coilpacks - P12 Valve Cover - 850cc Side Feed Injectors - Oil line feed for VVL Solenoid. Engine Management - S14 SR20DET ECU - ROM Tuned - Z32 MAF Sensor - Moates 64k Daughterboard Accesories; - Taarks Timing pin relocation - Taarks Coolant port relocation - Gspec Oil Drive Spacer Parts list will be updated.. Objective of the build which is obvious given the parts list is to be a budget build. Also find ways to cut cost where you can.. Preview.. Parts Bin.. VVL Oil Line and fitting for blocking ports. Need to machine about 5mm on the SR20DET Crank Pulley. Some mod will need to be done on the P12 VVL Solenoid. This should clear the firewall. To keep the build somewhat OE looking I will be sacrificing some flow by using S14 Intake plenum with VE intake flange welded ordered from Mazworx. Some trimming is involve here.. Nice to have an SR20DE TB than that small DET TB. Looking to teardown the shorblock this weekend to be sent to the machine shop.. More updates soon.. __________________ SoCal KA24DET/KA24ET Owners << Join the FB Group >>

04-04-2014, 09:26 AM	#3
5280VertDET Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: Denver Age: 37 Posts: 2,052 Trader Rating: (14) Feedback Score: 14 reviews	Love this, since it's budget conscience will you be posting pricing and costs? __________________ S13 Vert \| SR \| PE1420 \| 5-Speed \| 15x9.5 - 0 \|

04-04-2014, 07:29 PM	#6
rbs14kouki Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Montreal , Canada Age: 35 Posts: 817 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	An other ve thread i'm gona follow ! __________________ AV FABRICATION Built thread sr20vet s14 http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=535574

04-05-2014, 06:34 PM	#10
Yellow4g63 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Socal Posts: 1,451 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Or run over to the fwd forum and put the block up for sale. __________________ 95 240sx RB20 415whp 91 Nx2000 VVL yo

04-06-2014, 03:16 PM	#13
GroundPerformance Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 1,477 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	Ordered this water neck adapter from FRSport. Not a bad way to add port and be able to support one of the stock SR neck bolt location.. __________________ SoCal KA24DET/KA24ET Owners << Join the FB Group >>

04-04-2014, 08:43 AM	#2
Silviasurfer Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: NJ Age: 33 Posts: 44 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	keep it going

04-04-2014, 09:37 AM	#4
simmode1 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Addison, TX Posts: 5,526 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Stuff like this is why I love Zilvia. Can't wait to see your results. Subscribed.

04-04-2014, 10:01 AM	#5
guntop116 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Des Moines, IA Age: 34 Posts: 59 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Where did you get the P11 head from and what are everyone's thoughts on best way to purchase? Is it worth getting a SR20VE longblock from an engine importer and then parting out the block and other unused bits?

04-05-2014, 01:42 AM	#7
koha Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Moscow Age: 40 Posts: 5 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	please tell me where did you get this blockin nuts?

04-06-2014, 03:55 PM	#14
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,056 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	I just cut my support bracket off and sanded it down. __________________ My SR20VET

04-06-2014, 04:13 PM	#15
Yellow4g63 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Socal Posts: 1,451 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	How much did those pistons run? I have cp's for mine but only at 9.1. Got a great deal from Wayne @ phase2 a while back. Think it was around 450 with the upgraded wrist pins. __________________ 95 240sx RB20 415whp 91 Nx2000 VVL yo

04-20-2014, 09:50 AM	#17
Face Man Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Norfolk Age: 43 Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Which cam sensor are you using? I'm using 92 maxima Se cam sensor. It was $62 from a local import parts store. Would you be willing to sell your dual solenoid Vvl housing?

05-14-2014, 06:19 PM	#19
driftage240 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TUJUNGA Age: 37 Posts: 2,869 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Update??????? __________________ Misty blu is coming 4 you!

05-16-2014, 09:11 AM	#20
Face Man Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Norfolk Age: 43 Posts: 47 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Have you shaved the crank pulley already?

08-19-2014, 10:12 AM	#21
driftage240 Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: TUJUNGA Age: 37 Posts: 2,869 Trader Rating: (23) Feedback Score: 23 reviews	Updates? Or is this dead? __________________ Misty blu is coming 4 you!

01-16-2015, 06:19 PM	#23
GroundPerformance Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 1,477 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	The SR Block just came back from machining as well. The shop said it was just cheaper to use the plug then than weld/shut or threading it. Should get the crank and bearing ready by next week. __________________ SoCal KA24DET/KA24ET Owners << Join the FB Group >>

01-16-2015, 06:28 PM	#24
GroundPerformance Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 1,477 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	Since this is a low budget build in comparison to most VE-T builds many of the parts here will be reused atleast during the initial stages. Besides its easy to upgrade to intake manifold or turbo setup in the future should we get power hungry. For now target goal is for a Clean OEM look SR20VET hopefully producing power at around 350whp. - Turbo setup with be a T2 bottom mount using the Greddy turbo I already have and stock SR cast manifold and headshield. - Intake manifold is using an S14/S15 Intake manifold flanges trimmed/grinded and will be welded on to an SR20VE Intake flange. __________________ SoCal KA24DET/KA24ET Owners << Join the FB Group >>

01-16-2015, 06:32 PM	#25
GroundPerformance Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 1,477 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	I'm sure I will be limiting the capability of the VE head going this route but this really is just the initial stage. I still have the option of reusing the stock VE manifold and Excessive Manufacturing manifold I got for cheap. I will just the setup perhaps as a baseline. Pic of the S14 SR intake manifold.. __________________ SoCal KA24DET/KA24ET Owners << Join the FB Group >>

01-16-2015, 08:01 PM	#26
Yellow4g63 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Socal Posts: 1,451 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	The throttle body needs to be angled down or it's going to hit the hood with the excessive on rwd. __________________ 95 240sx RB20 415whp 91 Nx2000 VVL yo

01-20-2015, 03:54 PM	#27
GroundPerformance Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 1,477 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	VE head getting some love at the machine shop. Also worked on tapping the port for the VVL Oil supply. __________________ SoCal KA24DET/KA24ET Owners << Join the FB Group >>

03-02-2015, 11:48 AM	#28
GroundPerformance Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 1,477 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	Some update.. Longblock is almost done.. Here's the shot of the SR Crank pulley machine down 5mm with VE oil drive. Bottom end done.. VE Head Installed.. __________________ SoCal KA24DET/KA24ET Owners << Join the FB Group >>

03-02-2015, 12:11 PM	#29
GroundPerformance Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Socal Posts: 1,477 Trader Rating: (44) Feedback Score: 44 reviews	Put together a basic DIY Pre-Oiler / Pre-Lube Engine Oiler. It's always best to prime the oil before starting a newly built motor. I was able to put this together relative cheap since most of the parts I already have around the garage. You can build something similar using Harbor Freight parts for less than $40-50. Nice insurance. __________________ SoCal KA24DET/KA24ET Owners << Join the FB Group >>

03-13-2015, 08:05 AM	#30
Counteract Leaky Injector Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: UK Posts: 67 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I find this really interesting as I was aiming to do the same thing a few years ago, but broke the car before I had all the parts I was wondering why you were going to go for such high CR pistons? I did a lot of research into this and decided to go for 9:0:1 for 'reliability' - but never got round to buying the pistons. Mine got this far, would have been a 22VET as I was going for 90mm pistons and had a 91mm stroker crank (I had darton sleeves too ofc!)

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