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10-29-2011, 01:25 PM | #1 | |||
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white house marijuana petition gets bullshit response
so the white house has this site where you can submit petitions, and if they get enough signatures, the white house will give an official response. when they first started, the threshold was 5,000 signatures. they then raised it to 25,000, and then the petition quoted below gathered almost 75,000:
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https://wwws.whitehouse.gov/petition...paign=shorturl be sure to also check out NORML's response, which completely destroys the official response. it's a really good read and much too long to quote here. White House response to NORML’s “We the People” marijuana legalization petition | NORML Blog, Marijuana Law Reform a recent gallup poll showed Americans favor legalization. 50% of Americans support legalization, 46% oppose. when are we going to stand up and actively fight our government's draconian drug policy?
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10-29-2011, 03:12 PM | #2 | |
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seriously its disgusting how facts can just get ignored and instead they use the same old worn out and dis proven arguments against the legalization of a plant , yet legalize alcohol which requires chemical processes to even obtain the proper alcohol group is completely legal.
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10-31-2011, 07:42 PM | #4 |
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haha shit, i laughed my ass off in that cigarettes can be substituted for marijuana anywhere in their response, and it would still be accurate.
Personally I do not like weed, I don't like its effects on me. and even if it is legal i will not smoke it. however i see no reason why cigarettes are around, which contain multiple poisons and marijuana is illegal. |
10-31-2011, 08:36 PM | #5 |
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It bothers me that whenever I post about this, there is no debate. We're all on the same page, and our government is going by a different book.
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11-01-2011, 01:56 AM | #6 |
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I really don't get why your country makes such a big deal out of this. And I'm not talking about the government.
Are you really that hard up for a good time that you need another legalized substance to have fun?
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11-01-2011, 07:28 AM | #7 | |
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I don't even smoke weed and i support it. legalize and tax the FUCK out of it, like what is done with cigarettes. the point is, the costs to imprison people from marijuana possession crimes, is crippling our jail system. The police could be pursueing much worse crimes, my step dad is a cop, he hates the fact that so much of police revenue is forced into pursing marijuana crimes (no he doesn't smoke nor has he ever) ESP when police are being laid off left and right because of how much they are struggling right now. our government cannot find ways to increase income. people still smoke weed, rates have not dropped since the war on drugs started. It does have some medicinal value, and i mean shit, i am on legal heroin right now (oxycodone, yes it is prescribed to me.) that shit is FAR worse and addictive than weed. Cigarettes are legal which are fucking horrible. i <3 booze but i understand it's effects are some of the worst. and alcohol addiction is actually stronger than almost all drugs. We are not hard up for a good time so we want it legal. there are people who are just Stoners and want their habit to not be illegal yes, however there are people like me, who look at this and just think why is this illegal, it makes NO sense. especially when the LEGAL substitutes that come out (spice etc) are sooooooooo much fucking worse for you than the actual product. what is it with 95% of Canadians being fucking condescending as shit. If you really were curious about why, ask, but don't be such a fucking douche about it. |
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I lived in Tucson, it is called spun valley for a reason, I have FIRST HAND seen the devastating effects of meth. Meth is only a class III or class II when in an inject-able form. Yet marijuana is 2 categories worse! (or 1 depending on the form meth is in, which doesn't mean a damn thing smoking meth demolishes lives just like shooting it.) |
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11-01-2011, 10:48 AM | #14 |
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i agree, i voted + for the petition, and got the BS response emailed to me. i knew our bullshit government would respond the way they did.. but they didn't even respond to the question asked, why not tax and distribute M-J the same fashion as alcohol.
its total crap, its all about mexico.. any reason to keep the illegal immigrants out. it has nothing to do with the small amount of relaxation that MJ can give.. honestly, when i drink alcohol i feel more dangerous and have less control, than if i were on MJ
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11-01-2011, 10:54 AM | #15 |
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imo this is like the divorce, and single parent rate, shit is more and more commen and accepted now, mainly due to the image and influence these have been introduced to the generation, i.e. music stars smoking weed etc
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i agree with op, this is RIDICULOUS. hell i don't even smoke but even i can factually realize it's less harmful then cigs and booze. if they are legal their is ABSOLUTLEY NO reason it shouldn't be taxed and regulated as well.
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I like you have no desire to use marijuana, whether legal or not; I just find it ridiculous that they'd send a response back stating the reasons why they intend on keeping it illegal are because of ill effects and public health. There are many other legal substances that people use daily that are known to cause much worse adverse effects. I think the most absurd part is that it is a naturally growing plant, a damn plant lol. I can't stand that our system works off of "what if", so many stupid rules are in place because of "what if". I don't feel that the government should even have the power to tell me what is and isn't good for me, if I'm doing no harm unto others don't bother me. I'm sure a good reason for them not allowing it to become legal is probably because people could then grow it in their own homes, so taxing it wouldn't work quite as well as they'd hope for. |
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"The intense anti-marijuana movement of the 1930s dovetailed nicely with the intense anti-Chicano movement of the 1930s. Marijuana was associated with Mexican Americans, and a ban on marijuana was seen as a way of discouraging Mexican-American subcultures from developing." "There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz and swing, result from marijuana usage. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers and any others." "Colored students at the Univ. of Minn. partying with (white) female students, smoking [marijuana] and getting their sympathy with stories of racial persecution. Result: pregnancy"[11][12] "Two Negros took a girl fourteen years old and kept her for two days under the influence of hemp. Upon recovery she was found to be suffering from syphilis."[12][13] sorry if my previous response was miss-understood. i hope this clears up what i was talking about.... i think its crap that its considered such a deadly thing, when alcohol is much more mind altering, and has killed many more people. if it weren't for propaganda it would still be legal is what i was getting at.
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I am Hispanic too, stop using it as a trump card and start making intelligent arguements, (like your ending comment). This isnt the 1930's. |
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I might be misreading him, but I don't think he was using ethnic groups as an argument against it's legalization. |
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"its total crap, its all about mexico.. any reason to keep the illegal immigrants out." this is a race card, "you are only doing this because i am (insert race here) is a race card. He later explained himself, but he is still caught up on being the victim because of his race, I do not believe in that crap. |
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I agree with you entirely on that note. |
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Can't to much about it... its pretty well known throughout the "people" that its not a bad thing anymore..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lg5I...layer_embedded
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take it however you want. its sucks we cant enjoy a natural plant, because a group of a few men get paid large sums of money to make it so.. "YOU CANNOT EAT STRAWBERRYS, THEY HAVE BEEN PROOVEN TO KILL HUNDREDS!!!!"
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I suppose you are one of those people thats all about having a hemp wallet, hemp clothing etc. How original.
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besides that, instead of making it Legal, how about lessening some of the laws, aka, fine people more instead of locking them up. Go after the dealers instead of the users.
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