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ma71supraturbo · 11-26-2003, 01:24 AM

I'm looking to meet people in the Northern CA coast who are into hard, yet responsible canyon driving. my aim is ma71supraturbo

SilviaNinja240 · 11-26-2003, 01:56 AM

you've come to the right place my friend. But Arcata is hellllllla far from most of us

ma71supraturbo · 11-26-2003, 02:04 AM

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Originally posted by SilviaNinja240
you've come to the right place my friend. But Arcata is hellllllla far from most of us

yeah I know. Great roads up here, just no one to drive with and it's hard to improve when you're driving solo. Anyone like in Ukiah? I don't mind driving far, just not bay area/sacramento far...

nokeone · 11-26-2003, 03:23 PM

Santa Cruz mountain's roads are the shizzle..

thx247 · 11-26-2003, 07:50 PM

goto track, improve there.

street race = no.

nokeone · 11-26-2003, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by thx247
goto track, improve there.

street race = no.

since when did the subject turn to street racing??

thx247 · 11-27-2003, 08:57 PM

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Originally posted by ma71supraturbo
yeah I know. Great roads up here, just no one to drive with and it's hard to improve when you're driving solo. Anyone like in Ukiah? I don't mind driving far, just not bay area/sacramento far...

trying to improve driving on the street is imo the same thing. Racing used in the traditional sense, not this stoplight import stuff.

Anyway, I have to leave for the nissan meet. a whole fucking day early for some reason...

ma71supraturbo · 12-01-2003, 01:35 AM

I know what you're getting at thx, but thats why I said "hard, yet responsible canyon driving." I do go to the track, but due to time/distance constraints it is infrequent. I'm basically looking for others to drive 9/10ths with -- not to race with

knghtryde · 12-02-2003, 09:41 AM

I have a couple of things to say:

1. I go to Fort Bragg twice a year. Are you guys anywhere near there, if so let me know so that the next time I go up there we can hook up.

2. All these people who say learn to drive on track not street race. I'm sorry most of you only do the track cause you really aren't good on the street.

3. Most of use who do mountain passes use roads that don't have home anywhere near by and nobody walking. If you are that scared to drive on the road then just stay out of a car.

4. Learn. A lot of us aren't learning on the road we already know how to drive we just practice on the road.

5. And most important. I've noticed that most of the people that keep saying we are stupid and need to do it on the track and not on the street are the guys that are throwing the track events and are makeing really good money off these events and the only reason they are saying anything is cause they want our money.

6. Let me know how close you guys are to Fort Bragg, I'm willing to drive in that direction shit. Or are you guys closer to San Francisco than that.

I know I'm probably about to get ripped for saying anything but who gives a rats @ss. As long as we drive responsibly and don't try pushing yourself too hard like some idiots who I've seen get seriously injured. It's kewl. Just know the road and drive as safely as you can.

Okay I put my 2 cents in.

nokeone · 12-02-2003, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by knghtryde
I have a couple of things to say:

1. I go to Fort Bragg twice a year. Are you guys anywhere near there, if so let me know so that the next time I go up there we can hook up.

no..

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Originally posted by knghtryde
2. All these people who say learn to drive on track not street race. I'm sorry most of you only do the track cause you really aren't good on the street.

hahahahah...that's fuckin hilarious...

..you really think you can learn all you need to know about driving, racing, drifting on the streets??..if so, then you are truly a moron..if you drive on the streets the way you would on a track then you are asking to die, kill someone else, get fucked by the cops, or all of the above..

now i wont try to pretend i'm holier then thou..i run touge all the time in my local mountains...so i'm not preaching against it..

i just think you comment is ignorant..

to assume that those who prefer track days to streets are inferior drivers is asinine...

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Originally posted by knghtryde
3. Most of use who do mountain passes use roads that don't have home anywhere near by and nobody walking. If you are that scared to drive on the road then just stay out of a car.

another wonderful comment...dumbass...so you can predict everything about the mountain road you are on?..you can ensure that it is safe?..no, you can't..so don't try to pretend you are doing anything better then anyone else..you are just as much a risk as anyone...get off your high horse..

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Originally posted by knghtryde
4. Learn. A lot of us aren't learning on the road we already know how to drive we just practice on the road.

so where did you learn?..tracks?..prolly not, cause then you would suck by your logic..and according to you, you are quite good, no?...so it must be streets..hmmmm..hypocritical much??

and to think that you are not learning constantly, and always improving, is another ignorant thought...you are just full of these arn't you?..

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Originally posted by knghtryde
5. And most important. I've noticed that most of the people that keep saying we are stupid and need to do it on the track and not on the street are the guys that are throwing the track events and are makeing really good money off these events and the only reason they are saying anything is cause they want our money.

hahahahha...yeah..there you go, that's intelligent..do you have ANY idea what it takes to put on a track event?..the insurance?..the safety measures?..the instructors? (for idiots like you)..the rental fees?..the food?..drinks?..preparation?..

so before making blanket generalized statements try doing some research and actually finding out what goes on...

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Originally posted by knghtryde
6. Let me know how close you guys are to Fort Bragg, I'm willing to drive in that direction shit. Or are you guys closer to San Francisco than that.

do yourself and the rest of the world a favor and discover a forgotten land mine at fort Bragg and drive your car over it...now THAT would be wonderful!..

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Originally posted by knghtryde
I know I'm probably about to get ripped for saying anything but who gives a rats @ss. As long as we drive responsibly and don't try pushing yourself too hard like some idiots who I've seen get seriously injured. It's kewl. Just know the road and drive as safely as you can.

you contradict yourself more then anyone i have seen in awhile on here...go back and read your own post and look at how many times your statements are in oppostion of one another..

think before you write..you might just be surprised what can come of using that ugly thing above your shoulders...

ok, ok..so i was a bit harsh..but seriously..try to do some research and actually know what you are talking about before you make statements that are wholey unfounded..

knghtryde · 12-02-2003, 02:37 PM

First Read what I say before you start thinking you are superior to the rest of the world.

* Actually, I Never said that I don't learn anything when I'm on the street, and I never said there was no risk. There is a risk anytime you get in your car. That's why I said I also state that I go out there to practice. As far as I remember practicing involves learning.

* The reason I referenced this was the same guy who responded earlier once said on a post that anyone who drives on the streets is stupid and a danger to everyone, and that he would never drive on the streets.

* I was talking about those that do both. I know alot of people who love the track but also love the streets, I'm guessing by your tone that you are one of them. I don't see anything wrong with that. The track is a great place to practice technique, and you will need to use that technique to handle the roads.

* I know how much it costs to throw a an event, but are you going to sit that tell me that the people throwing them don't profit from them. Cause I've done my research and yes they do.

* Lastly I didn't cross my words. I know exactly what I said. Cause I never said that people who like to use the track and the roads are stupid and can't drive. I was trying to make my point that there are alot of people who affraid to take the risk Of driving on the streets and will only drive on the track.

I don't care if people don't like driving on the road and only like driving on the track. That's there opinion. It's when they try to preach that opinion to the rest of us that gets me upset. Cause they go on saying that we are stupid and immature cause we drive on the streets.

Does that mean you agree with them. I think you are the one crossing your words cause you are defending all those that think you are a complete moran for driving on the streets.

And to answer your question, no I can't predict what's going to come out in front of me. I never said I could. I said that with experiance and practice, it is safe. (Safe meaning that you will be as safe as you can be, cause there are always suprises that will come up when ever you get into a car even if it just going to work.)

nokeone · 12-02-2003, 04:52 PM

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Originally posted by knghtryde
First Read what I say before you start thinking you are superior to the rest of the world.

hmmm..i did read what you wrote..as i responded to just about every word of it...

unfortunately i do also think i am superior to the rest of the world...well 87.5% anyway..

damn personality flaws..lol..

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Originally posted by knghtryde
* Actually, I Never said that I don't learn anything when I'm on the street, and I never said there was no risk. There is a risk anytime you get in your car. That's why I said I also state that I go out there to practice. As far as I remember practicing involves learning.

if i misinterpreted what you wrote them i'm sorry..but you did write this:

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Originally posted by knghtryde
4. Learn. A lot of us aren't learning on the road we already know how to drive we just practice on the road.
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sounds like you are saying you "aren't learning"..but just my interpretation of english..

..

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Originally posted by knghtryde
* The reason I referenced this was the same guy who responded earlier once said on a post that anyone who drives on the streets is stupid and a danger to everyone, and that he would never drive on the streets.

oh ok...well seeing as i didn't have that previous post as reference i simply went off of what you were saying...if i was wrong then sorry...

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Originally posted by knghtryde
* I was talking about those that do both. I know alot of people who love the track but also love the streets, I'm guessing by your tone that you are one of them. I don't see anything wrong with that. The track is a great place to practice technique, and you will need to use that technique to handle the roads.

agreed...you just came down pretty hard on those who run track with this comment:

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Originally posted by knghtryde
2. All these people who say learn to drive on track not street race. I'm sorry most of you only do the track cause you really aren't good on the street.
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that is what i was going off of...

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Originally posted by knghtryde
* I know how much it costs to throw a an event, but are you going to sit that tell me that the people throwing them don't profit from them. Cause I've done my research and yes they do.

yes i am...not ALL events..i imagine anything thrown by Nopi or Hot Import Nights or anything make money...

but the events i was refering to..which most of the people on this board attend are not really profit making endevors...

any of the drift events at Buttonwillow put on by Truenocoupe are non-profit...

Drift Days put on my Club 4AG and Drift Association LLC are minimal profiting events..but i mean people NEED to get paid when they do these things for a living..

you don't ask for free gas or food or anything do you?..why should events be any different?..we live in a capitalist society...the object of it is to make money..do the math..

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Originally posted by knghtryde
* Lastly I didn't cross my words. I know exactly what I said. Cause I never said that people who like to use the track and the roads are stupid and can't drive. I was trying to make my point that there are alot of people who affraid to take the risk Of driving on the streets and will only drive on the track.

I don't care if people don't like driving on the road and only like driving on the track. That's there opinion. It's when they try to preach that opinion to the rest of us that gets me upset. Cause they go on saying that we are stupid and immature cause we drive on the streets.

Does that mean you agree with them. I think you are the one crossing your words cause you are defending all those that think you are a complete moran for driving on the streets.

And to answer your question, no I can't predict what's going to come out in front of me. I never said I could. I said that with experiance and practice, it is safe. (Safe meaning that you will be as safe as you can be, cause there are always suprises that will come up when ever you get into a car even if it just going to work.)

anyway, you said a lot more in this post then the other one...if you had encluded all this stuff and clarified your thoughts more...(refer to what i was getting at before about thinking first)..then i don't think i would have been such a dick..

anyway whatever..

nokeone · 12-02-2003, 04:58 PM

oh, BTW..thanks for PMing me your exact post from this thread..

JUST in case i missed it here...

..lol..

and i was expecting some thoughtful PM about knowing you before owning you...

damn..dissapointed by the plebeians of this world again...when will i learn?!?

RBS14 · 12-02-2003, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by knghtryde
I think you are the one crossing your words cause you are defending all those that think you are a complete moran for driving on the streets.

Ummmmmm do you even know what you just said? do you know what crossing your words even means? Contradicting yourself...... Nokeone did nothing of the sort that i read.....

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Originally posted by Nokeone
now i wont try to pretend i'm holier then thou..i run touge all the time in my local mountains...so i'm not preaching against it..

do you know how to read?

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Originally posted by knghtryde
And to answer your question, no I can't predict what's going to come out in front of me. I never said I could. I said that with experiance and practice, it is safe. (Safe meaning that you will be as safe as you can be, cause there are always suprises that will come up when ever you get into a car even if it just going to work.)

Um safe doesn't mean "you will be as safe as you can be, cause there are always suprises that will come up when ever you get into a car even if it just going to work"

Safe DOES mean not getting hurt and not hurting others. do you have any other definitions of other words that differ completely from the word's actual definition? They'd be comical to read...... just like ur definition of safe.

thx247 · 12-02-2003, 06:27 PM

whats wrong with making money on the track events anyway?
Dont like it dont go....no one forces you to pay them.

And you can always run you're own event.

ma71supraturbo · 12-02-2003, 11:10 PM

yeah fort bragg is 2 hours away, hit me up on AIM if you are ever up that way (ma71supraturbo).

As for the track vs street -- Neither are 100% safe. And obviously mountain roads are not as good of a place to practice as tracks. But you can minimize the hazards of the road by being alert, driving within your limits, driving in scarcely populated areas, and driving at times when the fewest people are on the road.

knghtryde · 12-03-2003, 09:59 AM

You guys are missing my point compeletly. Don't see anything wrong with making money from putting on Events.

My point was that I hate it when these guys put people down for running on the track and tell them that they have to go to the Events.

I was talking about the people who put street drivers down and talk shit to them.

I know Al puts on the Buttonwillow meets for no Profit, but I know Al and I know he doesn't keep all his driving on the track. And I've never once heard him talk shit about anyone who drives on the streets.

Lets Recap. My entire point Before Nokeone started jumping down my throat, was that I can't stand people who talk shit about people who drive hard on the street, Track or Street it's all personal preference, and if you perfer the Track it's kewl keep it to yourself, if you perfer the street same thing. I know there are alot of peopel who like both.

nokeone · 12-03-2003, 11:42 AM

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Originally posted by knghtryde
You guys are missing my point compeletly. Don't see anything wrong with making money from putting on Events.

obviously you do..go read your previous posts...

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Originally posted by knghtryde
My point was that I hate it when these guys put people down for running on the track and tell them that they have to go to the Events.

you mean "running on the STREETS"?...please proof read your posts before hitting the "submit" button..you obviously need to..

and i hate when people put down those who drive on a track..saying things like, "you must drive on a track because you lack the skills to do so on the streets"..

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Originally posted by knghtryde
I was talking about the people who put street drivers down and talk shit to them.

but you are just as bad..talking shit about those who drive on a track...(read above point if you are confused)

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Originally posted by knghtryde
I know Al puts on the Buttonwillow meets for no Profit, but I know Al and I know he doesn't keep all his driving on the track. And I've never once heard him talk shit about anyone who drives on the streets.

well would you look at that...you made a point that is true..i'm impressed...

i don't see it's relevance as it's a known fact and not an argued issue...but oh well..at least it's the truth for once..

well done old chap...:golf clap:..

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Originally posted by knghtryde
Lets Recap. My entire point Before Nokeone started jumping down my throat, was that I can't stand people who talk shit about people who drive hard on the street, Track or Street it's all personal preference, and if you perfer the Track it's kewl keep it to yourself, if you perfer the street same thing. I know there are alot of peopel who like both.

if you had really just posted this EXACT thing in your first post...i would never have "jumped down your throat"..but you didn't...so this isn't really your "recap"..maybe this should be your "what i meant to say was:"...

mmmmmmk?..

knghtryde · 12-03-2003, 12:41 PM

Nokeone,

Okay... You are right, and I was definately wrong... I'll admit that... That is what I ment to say and I just used the wrong words...

I will also admit that the way I said it was compeletly wrong and yes it did make me sound like the guys I am talking about, and for that yes you did have a right to get on my ass.

So I am sorry for the way I said it, and for not being in anyway clear about what I ment.

nokeone · 12-03-2003, 12:47 PM

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Originally posted by knghtryde
Nokeone,

Okay... You are right, and I was definately wrong... I'll admit that... That is what I ment to say and I just used the wrong words...

I will also admit that the way I said it was compeletly wrong and yes it did make me sound like the guys I am talking about, and for that yes you did have a right to get on my ass.

So I am sorry for the way I said it, and for not being in anyway clear about what I ment.

cause the truth is i completely agree with you; when you word it correctly..

take care..

knghtryde · 12-03-2003, 12:50 PM

thats kewl and I'll be careful about how I say shit for now on... Make sure I word things correctly and actually state my point... I am really glad you pointed that shit out to me...

ma71supraturbo · 12-03-2003, 02:52 PM

knghtryde · 12-03-2003, 03:12 PM

WTF :hammer:

11-26-2003, 01:24 AM	#1
ma71supraturbo Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chico, CA Age: 39 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	anyone in the CA Redwoods? I'm looking to meet people in the Northern CA coast who are into hard, yet responsible canyon driving. my aim is ma71supraturbo

11-26-2003, 03:23 PM	#4
nokeone on strike three. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, California Age: 42 Posts: 3,282 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Santa Cruz mountain's roads are the shizzle.. __________________ panda; rockin your socks from the Bay to LA to SD, yay! Pink GodziRa

12-02-2003, 09:41 AM	#9
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 41 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a couple of things to say: 1. I go to Fort Bragg twice a year. Are you guys anywhere near there, if so let me know so that the next time I go up there we can hook up. 2. All these people who say learn to drive on track not street race. I'm sorry most of you only do the track cause you really aren't good on the street. 3. Most of use who do mountain passes use roads that don't have home anywhere near by and nobody walking. If you are that scared to drive on the road then just stay out of a car. 4. Learn. A lot of us aren't learning on the road we already know how to drive we just practice on the road. 5. And most important. I've noticed that most of the people that keep saying we are stupid and need to do it on the track and not on the street are the guys that are throwing the track events and are makeing really good money off these events and the only reason they are saying anything is cause they want our money. 6. Let me know how close you guys are to Fort Bragg, I'm willing to drive in that direction shit. Or are you guys closer to San Francisco than that. I know I'm probably about to get ripped for saying anything but who gives a rats @ss. As long as we drive responsibly and don't try pushing yourself too hard like some idiots who I've seen get seriously injured. It's kewl. Just know the road and drive as safely as you can. Okay I put my 2 cents in. __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

12-02-2003, 02:37 PM	#11
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 41 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	First Read what I say before you start thinking you are superior to the rest of the world. * Actually, I Never said that I don't learn anything when I'm on the street, and I never said there was no risk. There is a risk anytime you get in your car. That's why I said I also state that I go out there to practice. As far as I remember practicing involves learning. * The reason I referenced this was the same guy who responded earlier once said on a post that anyone who drives on the streets is stupid and a danger to everyone, and that he would never drive on the streets. * I was talking about those that do both. I know alot of people who love the track but also love the streets, I'm guessing by your tone that you are one of them. I don't see anything wrong with that. The track is a great place to practice technique, and you will need to use that technique to handle the roads. * I know how much it costs to throw a an event, but are you going to sit that tell me that the people throwing them don't profit from them. Cause I've done my research and yes they do. * Lastly I didn't cross my words. I know exactly what I said. Cause I never said that people who like to use the track and the roads are stupid and can't drive. I was trying to make my point that there are alot of people who affraid to take the risk Of driving on the streets and will only drive on the track. I don't care if people don't like driving on the road and only like driving on the track. That's there opinion. It's when they try to preach that opinion to the rest of us that gets me upset. Cause they go on saying that we are stupid and immature cause we drive on the streets. Does that mean you agree with them. I think you are the one crossing your words cause you are defending all those that think you are a complete moran for driving on the streets. And to answer your question, no I can't predict what's going to come out in front of me. I never said I could. I said that with experiance and practice, it is safe. (Safe meaning that you will be as safe as you can be, cause there are always suprises that will come up when ever you get into a car even if it just going to work.) __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

12-02-2003, 04:58 PM	#13
nokeone on strike three. Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Santa Cruz, California Age: 42 Posts: 3,282 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	oh, BTW..thanks for PMing me your exact post from this thread.. JUST in case i missed it here... ..lol.. and i was expecting some thoughtful PM about knowing you before owning you... damn..dissapointed by the plebeians of this world again...when will i learn?!? __________________ panda; rockin your socks from the Bay to LA to SD, yay! Pink GodziRa

11-26-2003, 01:56 AM	#2
SilviaNinja240 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Shibukawa, Gunma Posts: 1,152 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you've come to the right place my friend. But Arcata is hellllllla far from most of us

11-26-2003, 07:50 PM	#5
thx247 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: bay area Posts: 1,455 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	goto track, improve there. street race = no.

12-01-2003, 01:35 AM	#8
ma71supraturbo Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chico, CA Age: 39 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I know what you're getting at thx, but thats why I said "hard, yet responsible canyon driving." I do go to the track, but due to time/distance constraints it is infrequent. I'm basically looking for others to drive 9/10ths with -- not to race with

12-02-2003, 06:27 PM	#15
thx247 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: bay area Posts: 1,455 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whats wrong with making money on the track events anyway? Dont like it dont go....no one forces you to pay them. And you can always run you're own event.

12-02-2003, 11:10 PM	#16
ma71supraturbo Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chico, CA Age: 39 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah fort bragg is 2 hours away, hit me up on AIM if you are ever up that way (ma71supraturbo). As for the track vs street -- Neither are 100% safe. And obviously mountain roads are not as good of a place to practice as tracks. But you can minimize the hazards of the road by being alert, driving within your limits, driving in scarcely populated areas, and driving at times when the fewest people are on the road.

12-03-2003, 09:59 AM	#17
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 41 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	You guys are missing my point compeletly. Don't see anything wrong with making money from putting on Events. My point was that I hate it when these guys put people down for running on the track and tell them that they have to go to the Events. I was talking about the people who put street drivers down and talk shit to them. I know Al puts on the Buttonwillow meets for no Profit, but I know Al and I know he doesn't keep all his driving on the track. And I've never once heard him talk shit about anyone who drives on the streets. Lets Recap. My entire point Before Nokeone started jumping down my throat, was that I can't stand people who talk shit about people who drive hard on the street, Track or Street it's all personal preference, and if you perfer the Track it's kewl keep it to yourself, if you perfer the street same thing. I know there are alot of peopel who like both. __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

12-03-2003, 12:41 PM	#19
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 41 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Nokeone, Okay... You are right, and I was definately wrong... I'll admit that... That is what I ment to say and I just used the wrong words... I will also admit that the way I said it was compeletly wrong and yes it did make me sound like the guys I am talking about, and for that yes you did have a right to get on my ass. So I am sorry for the way I said it, and for not being in anyway clear about what I ment. __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

12-03-2003, 12:50 PM	#21
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 41 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats kewl and I'll be careful about how I say shit for now on... Make sure I word things correctly and actually state my point... I am really glad you pointed that shit out to me... __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

12-03-2003, 02:52 PM	#22
ma71supraturbo Leaky Injector Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Chico, CA Age: 39 Posts: 69 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews

12-03-2003, 03:12 PM	#23
knghtryde Zilvia Addict Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: From San Jose, CA now Springfield, MO Age: 41 Posts: 787 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WTF :hammer: __________________ David Munoz, 1989 S13 KA24ET 1990 Infiniti Q45 To push oneself to the limit is all that one can do. To quit is to die.

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