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Old 04-02-2013, 08:22 PM   #31
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I have friends in CHP and every once in a while they will show up to court, say they do not recall any of the offenses, and get a paid day off. If anyone shows up to court to fight it, they win. Most people don't show up.
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you could be ok
once i was with my buddy the day after he bought a new car. took the plates off his other car and put them on to drive it around the block and see how the car felt. got clocked doing 87 in a 30. 57 over the limit. 5 tickets and the car was impounded. didn't go to jail or anything. he got lucky and got all 5 ticktets dismissed because the cop was a jerk off to the judge when the judge asked if he could lessen the charge for my friend. sometimes you get really freaking lucky when you need it lol

did you get a court date yet? try to talk to the cop. ask him what you can do because don't want your whole life to get messed up for one stupid action. he may lower the speed for you so you do not lose your licenses or something
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i was clocked doing 87 in a 55 when i was 17. didnt even know that road was a speedtrap. in virginia, anything over 25mph the limit, they have the right to jail you, but luckily this cop didnt. he just gave me a court summons. it was wreckless driving but i was able to get a lawyer and move it down to a $200 speeding ticket and a 8hr saturday driving class iirc
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ok so i was driving my friend with his brother home to yucca vally and a badass beat comes on.. we start cruising faster and faster pumpin to the music and then next thing i know im at 110
Really? That's why you were speeding? Nobody just starts cruising to 110 without knowing it.

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Really? That's why you were speeding? Nobody just starts cruising to 110 without knowing it.

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its called having fun and yes it does friggin happen buddy.. thanks for the pesimistic comment. i was in a matrix and honestly felt like i was going 90 at max... i knew i was speeding but the moment i decided to slow it down a bit it was already too late..

dont fucking tell me youve never done something bad or wrong and hoped for an ok outcome in the end.... if not then you have been living under a rock.
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once i was with my buddy the day after he bought a new car. took the plates off his other car and put them on to drive it around the block and see how the car felt. got clocked doing 87 in a 30. 57 over the limit. 5 tickets and the car was impounded. didn't go to jail or anything. he got lucky and got all 5 ticktets dismissed because the cop was a jerk off to the judge when the judge asked if he could lessen the charge for my friend. sometimes you get really freaking lucky when you need it lol

did you get a court date yet? try to talk to the cop. ask him what you can do because don't want your whole life to get messed up for one stupid action. he may lower the speed for you so you do not lose your licenses or something
this wouldve worked if i was with the cop but now im nowhere near him.. lol honestly i sell cars and need my license to sell.. if i lose that im a tad fucked.
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Really? That's why you were speeding? Nobody just starts cruising to 110 without knowing it.

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not true.. you can creep up to 100's without noticing. Esp in a mazdaspeed 6 lol. hugs the road and you don't even know you're doing 120..
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it was one mistake.. i normally notice movements in a car people dont and can sense understeer and oversteer as well as loss of tracion in different area's... i hadnt seen these people in a long time and let loose a bit.. true i did pay the price. but in no way were my emotions comprimising my driving.... i was signaling for every lane change and just so happened to be in a lane with no cars in it for a good distance... plus good music and conversation i let myself go.... MY BAD. lol id say more distraction than emotion.
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not true.. you can creep up to 100's without noticing. Esp in a mazdaspeed 6 lol. hugs the road and you don't even know you're doing 120..
exactly and thank you! lol
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What about the 54 hour class they have to take and the test they have to pass in order to write said tickets without a radar gun?

I believe they have to be within 2-4 mph on their final tests. freeway and residential speeds, but go on about how much you think you know....(909 should know this more than any others. Riverside is notorious for this training and tickets.)
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It 'flys' in court, bro.


"Scammed by a cop" Really?

You two must be a phenomenal lawyers.

THANK YOU, somebody understands. The officers my friend and I were able to talk to after that were letting us know all about that. They say it's one of the most important things they get taught, they said the lessons are very thorough and long. They also have to be able to determine appropriate speeds through turns.

For example, if the posted speed limit is 45MPH and you take a right turn going 30-35MPH that can be considered speeding. Then they also said weather conditions can also apply, because you should be driving appropriately with a lot of caution based on driving conditions. In short, you shouldn't be driving in fog or heavy rain just as you would in the dry even though when you drive in the dry/sunny it's at legal speeds, etc.

That is the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
Right cops have radar guns in their heads.

Why even pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment when you can just train someone to be a radar gun.
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I just paid $1200 in tickets. Good luck getting anything reduced. Be as nice, polite and courteous to the judge as possible. He will determine how bad your fines will be.
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That is the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
Right cops have radar guns in their heads.

Why even pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment when you can just train someone to be a radar gun.
Cliffs: Has never met a cop and has zero knowledge of the subject at hand but felt his opinion must be heard.

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not true.. you can creep up to 100's without noticing. Esp in a mazdaspeed 6 lol. hugs the road and you don't even know you're doing 120..
lol no.

No cheap family sedan (regardless of power) is as composed at 100+ as it is at ~60, that's not considering increased wind/tire/engine noise.

I wish OP had been taken to jail/had car impounded/license revoked; people as stupid/immature as him shouldn't be driving.
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That is the dumbest thing I've heard all day.
Right cops have radar guns in their heads.

Why even pay the hundreds of thousands of dollars worth of equipment when you can just train someone to be a radar gun.


I can't tell if you are trolling, ignorant, or stupid. I'll leave that a mystery lol.


So in math class did you think "right, you guys have calculators in your heads" when people did simple mathematics in their head?

We are educated about the process and you are not and I completely understand how this blew your mind.

Let me google that for you

this is a case in Ohio, but I believe most states don't require a burden of proof for speeding tickets. This will only fly of course if the officer is trained.

BTW - I typically hang out with 3-5 CHP officers once a month or so and have a really good friend who is trained on this matter. I can have him pull the source in their manual if you REALLY can't google it yourself.
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I can't tell if you are trolling, ignorant, or stupid. I'll leave that a mystery lol.


So in math class did you think "right, you guys have calculators in your heads" when people did simple mathematics in their head?

We are educated about the process and you are not and I completely understand how this blew your mind.

Let me google that for you

this is a case in Ohio, but I believe most states don't require a burden of proof for speeding tickets. This will only fly of course if the officer is trained.

BTW - I typically hang out with 3-5 CHP officers once a month or so and have a really good friend who is trained on this matter. I can have him pull the source in their manual if you REALLY can't google it yourself.
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I can't tell if you are trolling, ignorant, or stupid. I'll leave that a mystery lol.

So in math class did you think "right, you guys have calculators in your heads" when people did simple mathematics in their head?

We are educated about the process and you are not and I completely understand how this blew your mind.

Let me google that for you

this is a case in Ohio, but I believe most states don't require a burden of proof for speeding tickets. This will only fly of course if the officer is trained.

BTW - I typically hang out with 3-5 CHP officers once a month or so and have a really good friend who is trained on this matter. I can have him pull the source in their manual if you REALLY can't google it yourself.

Right because multiplication based on facts and a visual observation are the same.

I'm starting to think you're a bit dim.

Wow you were able to fine one state that allows it.
Must mean that all 50 do, because every state is the same as Ohio.

How about you google New Rome, Ohio and read about that.

I've been in this situation before and I've gotten out of said tickets.

Anyone with common sense knows that using someones judgement on something that can be easily fabricated is going into some dangerous waters concerning due process and illegal search and seizure.

But hey thats cool your bros with some state troopers.
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Right because multiplication based on facts and a visual observation are the same.

I'm starting to think you're a bit dim.

Wow you were able to fine one state that allows it.
Must mean that all 50 do, because every state is the same as Ohio.

How about you google New Rome, Ohio and read about that.

I've been in this situation before and I've gotten out of said tickets.

Anyone with common sense knows that using someones judgement on something that can be easily fabricated is going into some dangerous waters concerning due process and illegal search and seizure.

But hey thats cool your bros with some state troopers.

I showed you one state that happened to make a big deal about it. The law was passed and brought to the supreme court. If you are not familiar, the supreme court does not handle every little case (only 5,000 every year) and it was ruled in favor of the officer WITHOUT a radar gun.

I don't think you're stupid, but you are acting very ignorant to a fact that is actually well known.

REALLY? the fourth amendment? thats a very very large stretch and any judge in their right mind would laugh your ass out of court.


please enlighten us with the process for getting out of your ticket?
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The main reason why I fight is because 99% of the time I'm only driving around 5-10mph over if at all.
that 4-10mph over is a bunch of bullshit... If youre over the speed limit youre over the speed limit.


I used to work for a courthouse out here for almost 3 years as a clerk so I would know.
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that 4-10mph over is a bunch of bullshit... If youre over the speed limit youre over the speed limit.


I used to work for a courthouse out here for almost 3 years as a clerk so I would know.
I haven't confirmed this information but is anything under 10mph all court/processing fees? I was told a few times that the department doesn't usually see a dime unless the speeding is 10mph over the limit.
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I showed you one state that happened to make a big deal about it. The law was passed and brought to the supreme court. If you are not familiar, the supreme court does not handle every little case (only 5,000 every year) and it was ruled in favor of the officer WITHOUT a radar gun.

I don't think you're stupid, but you are acting very ignorant to a fact that is actually well known.

REALLY? the fourth amendment? thats a very very large stretch and any judge in their right mind would laugh your ass out of court.


please enlighten us with the process for getting out of your ticket?
lol
You got me, I'm just messing with you.
But in all seriousness I am really surprised that shit would fly anywhere.

Yeah I was reaching with the 4th, but I'm too lazy to make any real argument.

Honestly, I have gotten out of two tickets when the office had no radar\laser gun.
One time I fought the ticket and typed up a letter with it, describing the situation in my own words.
It was nollied, or "nolle prossed".
(I've had several others get nollied that way)

The second time that didn't work, I had to go to court to meet the state prosecutor, and I was able to get it dropped.
BUT I showed up in a suit and tie, was very respectful, pointed out that I haven't had any infractions in years, and the officer may have been mistaken.

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I haven't confirmed this information but is anything under 10mph all court/processing fees? I was told a few times that the department doesn't usually see a dime unless the speeding is 10mph over the limit.
I read a study some time back about the ticket system and officers.
It showed that it actually costs the states more money than they make to issue tickets.
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To give you credit it does sound bizarre, if my friends didn't give me numerous accounts of them ticketing and even winning when peopke fight it i would feel the same way as you.

The course is intense though. They have to be spot on.
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I haven't confirmed this information but is anything under 10mph all court/processing fees? I was told a few times that the department doesn't usually see a dime unless the speeding is 10mph over the limit.
The department doesnt see a dime period. The state takes damn near all of the money. Thats why our local court/judicial systems are so damn slow... Not enough money to hire enough people to make the operation move smoother.
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I have friends in CHP and every once in a while they will show up to court, say they do not recall any of the offenses, and get a paid day off. If anyone shows up to court to fight it, they win. Most people don't show up.
This is true, If the cop doesnt show up its an automatic win. But if the cop does show up you should pretty much know youre taking an L so prepare to pay for your violation.

I said it before and ill say it again, programs like MR Ticket that guarantee that they will reduce or dismiss your ticket are a bunch of scams, youre essentially giving them power of attorney to handle the ticket for you, and honestly all they are doing is standing in your place. All they are going to do is request a trial against the cop and hope that they dont show up. If they do show up they are pretty much screwed and will lie to you and say they "got you a reduced fine" when in reality its the same damn fine you couldve gotten if you went yourself.

TL;DR : Mr Ticket is a scam, you could easily do the shit they do for you yourself.
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on the east coast, i had (2) 100+ tickets.

I was young, no excuse. Both by a state trooper. I wasnt arrested and didnt lose my license.

1st one cost me $600. I had only had my license for 3 months.

2nd one I got nailed 103 in a 55 and crossing lanes in an intersection. Went to court, talked to the DA, got it Prayer for Judgement, reduced to improper equipment, $110 court cost, $225 fine.

Not condoning what I did, as I now rarely find myself 4~ over the limit.

Its all in appearance, your judge, and your da. Each state is different.
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Is this your first ticket? I can't believe this is a thread. Get yourself a ticket lawyer and keep it moving. I got a ticket for reckless driving doing 37 over last year. Paid 120 for a lawyer, and ended with no points no court fees but had to do a 12 hour driving course. tI amazes me that people actually pay their tickets. Take that thing to court! or get a lawyer... And I will take this opportunity to say fuck all cops I hate them all
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I love how everyone says, "get a lawyer to help" when all they are there for is to take your place in front of the judge. My experience is in CA:

The pros of having a lawyer present is so you are not wasting time out of your day in court.

The cons: if the case goes to trial then you will most likely lose since your lawyer was not there when you were ticketed for the violation and cannot give detailed statements of the events that took place.

When it's all said and done the copper is the main person who can reduce or dismiss charges. I say that because if the defendants lawyer ask for reduced charges,the judge will 9/10 ask the copper if they would agree to lesser charges.

This is what you do:
-Be respectful.
-Do not waste your money on a lawyer.
-Show up sharp and ready to plead your case.
-Hope the copper does not show up (Good luck if its an LAPD copper).
-Speak with the copper after roll call to see if they plan on dismissing the case or if they would agree to lesser charges (good luck again if LAPD).
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Is this your first ticket? I can't believe this is a thread. Get yourself a ticket lawyer and keep it moving. I got a ticket for reckless driving doing 37 over last year. Paid 120 for a lawyer, and ended with no points no court fees but had to do a 12 hour driving course. tI amazes me that people actually pay their tickets. Take that thing to court! or get a lawyer... And I will take this opportunity to say fuck all cops I hate them all
I love seeing cop bashing lol. Its usually the ones that get caught doing stupid shit that hate coppers hahaha

I love them, because when shit goes sideways that's who im calling for help.
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I got pulled over for doing 104 in a 65 (was really 115+) without my drivers license on me and got a $680+/- ticket (happened twice, first time was prob in 06..ticket was $635)

*I RARELY speed. I usually get caught speeding when I'm actually in an emergancy lol
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Cliffs: Has never met a cop and has zero knowledge of the subject at hand but felt his opinion must be heard.



lol no.

No cheap family sedan (regardless of power) is as composed at 100+ as it is at ~60, that's not considering increased wind/tire/engine noise.

I wish OP had been taken to jail/had car impounded/license revoked; people as stupid/immature as him shouldn't be driving.
thanks for the compliment ass! shit happens and yeah i was being stupid but seriously?!?!?!? im looking for advice not bashing on what i did...i dont need you to fucking tell me that i was being an idiot.. i think my conscience has done that for me so THANKS! im not saying im better than you in anyway but you cant tell me youve NEVER done anything a tad reckless in a car before....



on another note im not going to hire a lawyer because itll be a waste of money im going to have to take the hit and hopefully ask for a lower $$$ amount and something to have it not screw with my license/ record.
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