OrangeVirus1

you are the only close minded person in this thread that can't accept simple logic

I mean it's like you think I invented this "time travel paradox"

No I didn't. scientists figured that out

One_love_silvia

that's where the multiple thread theory gets sticky though. technically, if u travel to the "past" and observe yourself doign what u were doing exactly at that time, and everything else in the world was the same, you're still traveling into the past. just into a different past where your present doesnt exists yet, as your present would be the past's future (getting confusing, i know).

you'd still be technically traveling into the past. just not the past in your own time and space continuum. that's why it's so hard to prove traveling to the past possible. there's just way too many unknown possible variables involved.

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OrangeVirus1

See but you would first have to prove that The "past" on these different realities would be the same past, in order to be traveling to the past. but you would still inevitably be traveling to a different reality regardless.

BossHogg

This is interesting shit. But from what I have observed in my short time here on Earth, is everything we think we know now is proved wrong in the future. What we have are ideas that seem to explain things up to a certain point, but then the math falls apart after that point. We don't know enough to even rationalize on how it works. I have to say I find my self thinking along the same lines as orangevirus.

Now how would me going back in time to kill myself as a baby make my current form mysteriously disappear? That would mean you have to have two sets of identical molecules, atoms whatever some how linked together because you have current "you" looking at "baby" you. Obviously two different beings of molecules/atoms whatever looking and interfering with each other. You can't be in two places at the same time or that means we all have an identical copy somewhere in the universe right now. Or killing yourself wouldn't be possible(unless one form took its "own" bodies life). Which is where this gets complicated. You would almost just erase your past from pursuing "it's" future (that you already lived) while you in your current form would still have those child hood memories that your now "dead" baby-self never got a chance to experience. You are essentially on a different time line i guess. You have already lived your past, went back and changed it, but your "killer" self would still be there, already have lived your own past. If that makes any sense at all lol. Discuss that idea please. The "killer" you would be the "original" you as you would have to wait for time travel to be invented in order to go back in time to get to the "old" you and kill your person in baby form.


EDIT* I guess what I'm saying is why would your current form disappear if you killed your baby form. Because if that was the case then you should of never lived in the first place to kill your own baby-self if you disappear, because you are "killing" the "killer" at the same time.

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One_love_silvia

thats the time paradox orange was saying.

when u say that there would be another you, somewhere out in the vast universe in another time and dimension, thats the multiple threads theory. as i said before, the paradox doesnt work in that theory. it'd be the same as killing some other random person.

but let's ask the real question. who the hell would want to kill their past self? lmao

i can understand smacking some sense into yourself, but i cant imagine anyone wanting to kill their past self. especially if it doesn't benefit them in any shape or form.

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MikeisNissan

I perceive time as reality. In death would time even exist. Do animals grasp the notion of time? It really is to me just a sense of knowing reality, grasping the idea of the physical realm. I believe humans are the only entities using the form. I also think that ufos are vessels used for time travelling. Future humans traveling back to better understand, maybe use advance technologies to survey and study events, decisions etc. first hand that they never could, millions of years ahead. The same reason we only see sightings and never contact because of the idea that personal interaction may cause drastic changes in the future. But say they could travel back. Could they travel forward? Would that be any use to them? Again if space is infinite then the possiblities are endless. Our minds, and imagination is the closest thing. I believe the mind is based on the complexity of space.

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StigMeister

In order to time travel you have to essentially be able to bend time somewhere in the universe, so its a bit self centered to think we exist somewhere else in the universe, in a time millions of years in the future or even in the past. Other things are out there, who knows what they may be.
Our understanding of time, existence and the universe may just be a hypothesis in another.
Or maybe we seek the answers in the wrong places, maybe we have the answers here!
But that leads to one's faith, which is a whole 'nother story.
Nevertheless, the universe is vast. We are but a grain of sand on the shoreline.
Time travel is possible.

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BossHogg

lol I had that all written up to, then I deleted it to not get to far off topic. What if "aliens" are future humans genetically altered by our own selves that have traveled back in time lol. If you think about it, we as humans have made "aliens" out to be very human looking to an extent. (arms, legs, big head, two eyes, walk up right etc.) Now that is just pure humanizing (as I have never seen an alien lol) or they really look like that as explained by people who claim to have been "visited". But then again the human mind is so crazy that we often over think and come up with some crazy ass shit.

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BossHogg

dude welcome to humanity, there are some crazy people out there. I mean people kill themselves now.....why not travel back in time and kill yourself. "IF" you did disappear it would be a painless way to end yourself in the current form and make your "baby" self take the grunt of it. Humans are nuts....look at the society we have created for ourselves to live in. We F*&#ed.

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Celli

Bogghoss you do realize that even if you fucking CLONED yourself, you wouldn't have the exact molecular buildup. Fuck. Count to 1 nanosecond. Congradualtions! Your molecular buildup has changed. Holy fucking fuck you retards are so stupid. Are you even reading what you type? Or did your fucking cat walk across the keyboard and you decided to hit enter?!



I mean seriously. What the FUCK is wrong with you? Go back seventh grade. Learn what the hell a molecule is an what it does. Then go fuck yourself you stupid retards.

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MSGLLLLLLLLLLLL

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OrangeVirus1

you're really the only retard that can't understand whats going on.. Just leave the thread and come back when you understand what a paradox is dude. it's really sad you have to resort to childish language because you can't cope.

One_love_silvia

that's actually a really interesting way to look at ufo's. never thought of it like that. and it could be completely true.
though im not too sure about them genetically altering themselves lol. that brings up whole other possibilities though.

touché haha

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Celli

.............wtf are you even saying? I'm actually QUITE positive I know what a paradox is. But I'm also QUITE positive you don't have the first clue about what you're talking about. And I sure hope your children aren't using what you call "childish language". And that's language I resort to by default when it becomes apparent it is impossible to tell a retard he is a retard because he doesn't realize how retarded he is.

Celli

Thanks Obama.

godsmack

Celli you need to take some meds and lay down for a bit. This is a discussion about theories. All of the theories that I have read make their own good points. Now back on subject.

Think about this. How can you really time travel if when you travel "back in time" or "into the future" you're still not traveling outside of time. You would still be affected by time just as though you never left where you were to start with. Such as you would still be aging. That is why I would say it is impossible because you would have to bend time around you in a way not to affect you while traveling and that is impossible with our technology. Sure they say it is proven but is it really? I think that it's still a theory with a big mathmatical equation after it but it still hasn't been proven to actually work to travel further into time.

Celli

Sorry! I forgot that 2+2=3

godsmack

It could in another dimension. The concept would still be correct as 2+2=4 but they would right it out as 2+2=3. That's pretty much what he was saying.

Celli

Hooooleeeeeeyyyyshiiiiiit. You are as stupid as the rest of them.

godsmack

Ok educate me on why i'm stupid. I was just trying to understand what he meant by the 2+2=3 and with how man made numbers the concept and actual meaning of the 3 and 4 are just reversed. So 3 would actually be 4 as what he was saying. As in the way we write it.

Celli

godsmack

Alright stop being such a retard now. Guess you are a very close minded person. Maybe you should put that gif into actual practice. And I'd have to say you should probably stop killing this thread with your inability to actually debate at all. "No it's this way and that's final you retards rawr rawr rawr"

OrangeVirus1

Just leave Celli. You obviously have no concept of anything. and you resort to angry profane language when you can't figure stuff out.

One_love_silvia

I'm going to have to agree with these guys Celli. We had a good conversation going at first, but all you've been doing recently is bashing people, and it's putting the thread down.

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ayuaddict

what the fuck is wrong with Celli?

Matej

Possibly a traumatic time travel experience.

driftracerx

deep man real deep

HIGHFIVEBETA

This reminded me of the movie the Time Traveler where he goes back in time to save his damsel but she dies by other means either way.

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