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HippoSleek · 09-11-2002, 09:27 AM

What you get:

Left hook and the Snake

Roller Coaster

Hog Pen

And everything else seen here

VIR site

How, you ask, can you have all this?  A High Performance Driving Event sponsored by NASA-VA.  All you need is your car that can pass tech, an SA95 or newer helmet, and $301.  You will need to sign up through www.nasaracing.net .  You will also find more detail there on the weekend.  As an aside - when you make your car profile include "Zilvia" as your team name (or edit it on your existing profile).  If 10 of you go, you will get a discount (I think about 5-10%.. which is something).  

For your money you will get four 20 minute sessions - each day - plus 2-3 hours of total classroom time.  Do the math - that's almost three hours of track time!!  $100 an hour!  Compared to drag racing or autox (figure $25 for 3 minutes - tops&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> look at the value!  During your track time, you will get a licensed instructor to help you develop your high speed driving skills.  You will learn more about driving smooth and fast in one weekend that you could pick up in 10 years on the roads... trust me on this one!

Not to mention that it is impossible to have more fun in your car.  Yup - even naked <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  VIR is one of the best tracks in the country and is the most awesome driving experience I've ever had.  BTW: I'll be there (likely staying at the Innkeeper West) - so I hope to see as many of you as possible come on out!

See ya at the track  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>
-mark

DrDubbleB · 09-11-2002, 09:52 AM

If I had the money I'd definitely be there.  $300 is a lot to a college kid, especially when I just bought a new $11,000 bike (pics of that will be posted in OT in about a week)...

Sigh, I wish I could go though, it'd be a blast!

Foxcolt · 09-11-2002, 02:27 PM

I'm there,
Just a few questions.
When is the cutoff date?
What do I need to pass tech, (cars struggling a little at the moment)
How much do you think a hotel room would be.
Is there anything to do after the track on friday sat night? (bars etc)
How early do you have to wake up in the morning - related to question above <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Edit: can I rent a helmet or do I have to buy one?
Thank
Jed

*sykikchimp* · 09-11-2002, 03:24 PM

They will provide helmets for free.  I had to give the guy my License as Colateral.. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  I MUST GO...

*DSC* · 09-11-2002, 04:02 PM

I've got a question, do you have to be a NASA member to run this event? It's only like $20 to sign up (IIRC) but I won't If I don't have to. I went throught the registration up until they wanted my money <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> and I didn't see anything about it. So I assume no?

Foxcolt,
All the info you need should be on their site.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When is the cutoff date?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
I didn't see one, so I assume whenever it fills up.
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Tech sheet
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Well, unless several people from zilvia.net that go want to split the cost of a hotel, I'll just find an empty lot somewhere and sleep in my car. I'd imagine a hotel would cost $60-$90.
</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is there anything to do after the track on friday sat night? (bars etc)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
We are going to be in Danville, VA...prolly cow tipping will be the most fun thing to do at night. Hopefully this wouldn't be a determining factor on whether or not you come.
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Schedule has not yet been posted. I'd imagine you'd have to be there for registration/tech no later than 10am, but we'll have to wait and see...hope we don't have to be there at 8am.

Here's the links you'll need
http://www.nasaracing.net
http://www.virclub.com
http://www.turnfast.com (i'm sure they'll cover a lot in the class, may help if you already know some of it so you don't have to think about so much all at once)

$300? Man, sometimes, I love living with my parents <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Edit: Here's some more pics...

HippoSleek · 09-12-2002, 09:26 AM

Wow - glad to see everyone interested!!  

Let's see...

1.  Yes - you have to be a NASA member to run a full HPDE.  Cost, iirc, is $30.  Next year - join early and it's like $15!

2.  There is a cutoff date- but it will be full way before that.  I'd say w/n 2-3 weeks of the event, it will be full.  Maybe sooner for beginner groups.

3.  Tech is easy.  The bottom line is to make sure your car is safe and to make sure you aren't going to ruin everyone else's fun by dumping oil or something.  Take a look at the sheet.

4.  Lodging.  There are two ways to go.  a) camping at the track.  I think it's $10 and there are a lot of racers that stick around.  Everybody has a really good time. b) the Innkeeper West.  Rates are about $55/night (as of 02/02).  You get a bed, no bugs, and protection from storms.  See entertainment below!

5.  Entertainment.  Again, two ways to go.  At the track, there are campfires, stupid antics, and great advice.  In town at one of the hotels, there are stupid antics and great advice.  Actually, the parking lot at the InnKeeper is right next to the cruise McDonalds and it becomes a parade route for ricers checking out the race cars.  FUNNY.  VERY FUNNY.

6.  WARNING / THE NEXT DAY - if you get sh!tty the night before, you will suffer the next day.  I've had friend boot and rally after a late night of watching dancers and drinking in WV.  You DON'T want to be that guy.  While you wouldn't think it, doing a track day like this takes a LOT out of you.  Most people go to bed no later than midnight.  

    Oh yeah - all hands meetings at a rural track like VIR are bright and early (about 8<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0).  (no lights to run under either)  Gates usually open at 7<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 a.m. and before you run, there's always stuff to do.  If you are looking to get lit, this ain't the environment.  If you are looking to hang out, pit race, and shoot the breeze w/ some people who know more about cars and driving than most of us will ever... and drive like hell during the day - It's a good scene.  Remember- you are paying $300 to do this - don't ruin the time for yourself.  Take it seriously.

I'm not sure now whether I'll be camping or hotelling.  The camp sounds fun... but I like beds.  Not sure if I have a roommate yet either, but we should all get together so that those that are going to stay in a room can hook up.  

mark

*LanceS13* · 09-12-2002, 10:45 AM

One day...one day....

I would love to go, but I don't see me putting myself 1000 miles from home with the possiblility of my car becoming immobilized.  I need a reliable tow vehicle.  I guess I'm stuck with lapping days at the comparably inferior 1.8 mi. No Problem Raceway until then.
Kinda sucks you don't get to experience the uphill esses, though...now those look like fun. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'>

...one day......

*sykikchimp* · 09-12-2002, 07:41 PM

Well,..  I'm signed up!  CANT WAIT!..  Talked my gf into moving a week earlier, so she can come with me.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  EVERYONE SHOULD [email protected]!

BTW..  I didn't see where you could change the team??

*DSC* · 09-12-2002, 08:32 PM

you change it on your car's setup, not personal info.

AKADriver · 09-12-2002, 09:55 PM

That's it...  I've been meaning to do this for a long time.  I'm signing up right now.  Hope to see all of you there...  I'll probably be camping, S13 fastback with seats down = BED!

OK... now I've got a month to buy a helmet, get new brake pads and fluid, and get an alignment.  DC area people, what's a good place to try on some SA2k helmets?

nrcooled · 09-13-2002, 05:53 AM

Just signed up gents and I will see you there.  If I am not there then I am dead....so barring any unfourtunate incidents such as that I will be there.  Look for the red s13 w/ the SR baby <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

HippoSleek · 09-13-2002, 09:46 AM

WOW - this is friggin awesome!

By my count, we've got:
me
sykik
AKA
NR
uuninja
and Dave is pending.

Joe McG is an instructor who drives an s14 (although not on any boards).  I haven't seen Brad's name (who's also an s14 owning instructor) on the list yet.

That should be at least 6 of us from here.  I know that at 11 people, we would get a 10% discount.  I'm checking to see if any lower numbers get us anything.  That and trying to convince a few other people to change their team name.  If you know anyone else who may be going - get them to sign up w/ Zilvia.  It would pay for your gas for the weekend!  (BTW: the discount is given out as a cash refund at the event)

AKA - that's not bad.  I've got to do most of that stuff too.  As for helmets - check out OG Racing.  They're in Manassas, but they have a great selection,  good prices, know their chit and are super helpful.  I think I'm going to pick up some gloves b/f Oct., myself.

Camping will likely be $10/tent.  Don't know anything about sleeping in cars prices.  I'm still not too sure what I'm doing.  I may buy a tent for the fun of it... or may just split a room w/ someone.  I'll keep this thread posted when I hear more.

This is great!

*sykikchimp* · 09-13-2002, 09:58 AM

Team name changed to Zilvia.  

Should we post on FA?  not sure how many NC, VA, MD, etc, people over there, but you never know.

*sykikchimp* · 09-13-2002, 09:59 AM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Foxcolt @ Sep. 11 2002,4:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm there,
Just a few questions.
When is the cutoff date?
What do I need to pass tech, (cars struggling a little at the moment)
How much do you think a hotel room would be.
Is there anything to do after the track on friday sat night? (bars etc)
How early do you have to wake up in the morning - related to question above <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>

Edit: can I rent a helmet or do I have to buy one?
Thank
Jed</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
Foxcolt - if your comming that would be 7!  so what do ya say?

nrcooled · 09-13-2002, 10:05 AM

I have a question:  My wife wants to come and I would like her to come also.  
Is this a good idea?
Will she be bored out of her mind or will she be able to sit in w/ me on the classes?

I was going to sign her up but she decided that it would be too expensive so she passed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>   But I want her to come unless she won't enjoy herself.

Foxcolt · 09-13-2002, 10:08 AM

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I haven't registered yet. Kinda scared...
Aw Fook it, who cares if I slam my car in the sidewall right!

Actually I'm scared of finding out I'm not as good of a driver as I think I am <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Edit: Ok I'm gonna register on tuesday since as of right now I dont even have enough money for the 30 NASA registration.

HippoSleek · 09-13-2002, 11:45 AM

I think we should definately hit FA too.  I lost my password, but go ahead and post.  There are a couple guys from there that I think might show up.  I know there are a few members there from NC.  Maybe Greaser, etc. too?  It's worth a shot.  

Nr - if the wife is interested in driving at one some other time, this would be a great introduction.  There are a lot of wives and GFs that come out (mine would, but only to Summit) and I've seen at least a couple sitting in on classes.  Honestly though, if she likes cars, don't be surprised when she is out watching the cars - usually the advanced and some of the race groups are out when novice are in class <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'>  Let's see - watch a 348 Challenge Car or GT Porsche or listen to how to set up for Nasscar Bend?  At this event, there will ALWAYS be someone on track to watch and you'll be amazed at how little time you have in the pits b/n class, instructor advice, and car checking time.  NOTE: she can't ride in your car when you are on track except during the parade laps at lunch time.

Foxcolt - the odds of you hitting a wall at your first HPDE are very low.  If you take a look at the VIR website, you'll notice how few walls there are there (unlike LMS or CMP).  It is very rare for a car to get bent up in the novice group also b/c a) you aren't that fast and b) you aren't taking big risks.  The only car's I've seen get bent are people in advanced group or people w/ high horsepower cars like Rx-7 turbos.  

But yeah - you will find out how much you suck as a driver  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>  The worst is when you ride w/ an instructor in something like a 100 hp Civic and you realize how much faster he's going than you could EVER dream of.  Or maybe that's the best? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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*DSC* · 09-13-2002, 04:10 PM

Well, I'm now an offical NASA member <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> but I can't sign up for the HPDE until monday night.  So I'm going 100% for sure unless it somehow fills up before monday night <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>

Go team Zilvia <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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nrcooled · 09-13-2002, 06:11 PM

I have changed my team name from not applicable to team Zilvia, well actually just Zilvia.  Rock-on <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

HippoSleek · 09-17-2002, 07:14 AM

Dave?  Did you get in?

For those still in limbo - I suggest you register if you want to.  If you don't do it soon it won't be an option.

Mark, who's gettin' antsy already <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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AuburnRyan · 09-17-2002, 04:19 PM

This would be completely new for me but (all I've done is solo 2...and in my honda)..I'm totally interested <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> .  I also saw the event for Summit Point in early November, I'm not trying to dissuade anybody, but it's closer for me...Is anyone going to this?  Thanks in advance, and tell me if I'm isiing something.  i.e. this is not open to us, the danville one is much better, etc.

*DSC* · 09-17-2002, 04:52 PM

Ok, my money is all messed up...I think I overspent 1/3 of my check away before I even got it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> I'm still going though, just won't be able to register till wednesday night after I get all this stuff taken care off...carpayment comes from this check too <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'>

Good news though, my SS lines and rear pads came in today. So if my rotors ever come in, I'll have all new brakes for the VIR weekend.

If I make enough $$ on my next check (sept 30th, and I think I will) and if it's not full by then, I'll be going to summit point also <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'>

I've been trying to get on a track since oct 2001, so now that I can finally do it...I'm going all out <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Edit: there are already 35 novice ppl going...how many do they take? ? ?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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planb · 09-18-2002, 06:59 PM

I wish i could make this one.... I might go up there to watch, and meet all of you. But I just dont have the cash for the event plus what it would cost to get my car ready for the event. Sykik, were you at hyperfest in charlotte?

DrDubbleB · 09-18-2002, 08:05 PM

Yup, I wish I had the cash to make it, I long to run at a track!!!  Sigh, it'll have to wait until I get my bike paid off probably.

*DSC* · 09-18-2002, 08:20 PM

Alright, 36 novice's now.  I hope the limit is 40+
I'll be signing up tonight at 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1am  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> that's when my money arives.  I owed my bank $300! I can't believe I overspent soo much, I've never totally lost track of my money like that before.  So nearly a 3rd of my paycheck went to that <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> but I should still be able to make it to summit point also so it's all good.

nrcooled · 09-19-2002, 05:37 AM

Dave,
Did you get signed up.  The way I look at it the more the merrier.  And to have a big Zilvia turn out would be the Shiznet.  And everyone bring your stinking cameras.  
Also has anyone made arrangements for lodging.  I need the scoop on that so I can go ahead and get something set up.
Thanks in advance
Bakari

*sykikchimp* · 09-19-2002, 03:04 PM

</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (planb @ Sep. 18 2002,8:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Sykik, were you at hyperfest in charlotte?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'>
yes in deed.. I saw your car, actually walked up and said hi, but it looked like you were doing something with your car.. and I had to get ready for my run, so I left you alone.

Bakari - I gotta figure out lodging too.  I'm pretty sure my Girlfriend won't want to camp.  Mark, any suggestions?

*DSC* · 09-19-2002, 03:20 PM

CLOSED

<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> Damnit, I'm on the waiting list.

I'm registering for summit point now guys.  I won't know if I can go to VIR till a week before <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> so I'll have money for it then...I'll spend my $300 for summit point now so I can guarintee I'll get it.

*disapointed*
man, today has been pretty shitty.  Bank took $400 btw, not 300 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

'> work sucked total ass.  but hell, i got my rotors...after waiting a month and a half.  And I'm going to summit point so I guess its not all bad *trying to make things better* I'm gona get shitty tomorrow night, so I've got something to look forward too...

HippoSleek · 09-22-2002, 08:34 AM

Sorry I was in Texas all week... ugh <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt='

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Dave - damb you and your spending habits!! A bit of advice - get in touch w/ Elise at nasa (I think she's [email protected] - but the link is on the site). Find out where you are in the line up and tell her what happened and how much you want to go. Tell her that you understand that it won't change anything, but that you would like to know whether you should make plans (i.e., you are close enough on the list that you are likely to get in). People always cancel and, for better or worse, I think NASA has some favorites that might be able to pass you on the wait list unless you beg. Elise is really cool - so she'll understand.

Charles - there is a Holiday Inn that is for the quiet folks and the InnKeeper West for the rowdy kids. The Innkeeper is a scene - the parking lot becomes a little party. It's fun - but get a room on the far side of the hotel from the McDonalds if you want to sleep b/f 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 (you probably will). I'd have to check out mapquest or something to see the other hotels in that immediate area - but you'll want to be on that side of town. Plus, that way you won't get lost b/c you can just follow the caravans back and forth to the track. I've gotta make some plans myself!  **edit:  look for hotels in Danville, VA - that's where the InnKeeper and HI are.**

I've got to catch up w/ a few people, but I might have more info soon.

*sykikchimp* · 09-23-2002, 03:41 PM

Mark - Thanks for the info, but from looking at Orbitz there are 3 innKeepers within 25 miles of VIR's address.  Closest one is actually in Roxboro, NC at 13 miles.  Can you get me a phone number, or address?  sorry to be a pest.

09-11-2002, 09:27 AM	#1
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What you get: Left hook and the Snake Roller Coaster Hog Pen And everything else seen here VIR site How, you ask, can you have all this?  A High Performance Driving Event sponsored by NASA-VA.  All you need is your car that can pass tech, an SA95 or newer helmet, and $301.  You will need to sign up through www.nasaracing.net .  You will also find more detail there on the weekend.  As an aside - when you make your car profile include "Zilvia" as your team name (or edit it on your existing profile).  If 10 of you go, you will get a discount (I think about 5-10%.. which is something).   For your money you will get four 20 minute sessions - each day - plus 2-3 hours of total classroom time.  Do the math - that's almost three hours of track time!!  $100 an hour!  Compared to drag racing or autox (figure $25 for 3 minutes - tops&#33<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wink.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> look at the value!  During your track time, you will get a licensed instructor to help you develop your high speed driving skills.  You will learn more about driving smooth and fast in one weekend that you could pick up in 10 years on the roads... trust me on this one! Not to mention that it is impossible to have more fun in your car.  Yup - even naked <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  VIR is one of the best tracks in the country and is the most awesome driving experience I've ever had.  BTW: I'll be there (likely staying at the Innkeeper West) - so I hope to see as many of you as possible come on out! See ya at the track  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> -mark

09-11-2002, 03:24 PM	#4
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 40 Posts: 6,518 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	They will provide helmets for free.  I had to give the guy my License as Colateral.. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  I MUST GO... __________________

09-11-2002, 04:02 PM	#5
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I've got a question, do you have to be a NASA member to run this event? It's only like $20 to sign up (IIRC) but I won't If I don't have to. I went throught the registration up until they wanted my money <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> and I didn't see anything about it. So I assume no? Foxcolt, All the info you need should be on their site. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">When is the cutoff date?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I didn't see one, so I assume whenever it fills up. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">What do I need to pass tech, (cars struggling a little at the moment)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Tech sheet </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How much do you think a hotel room would be.</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Well, unless several people from zilvia.net that go want to split the cost of a hotel, I'll just find an empty lot somewhere and sleep in my car. I'd imagine a hotel would cost $60-$90. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">Is there anything to do after the track on friday sat night? (bars etc)</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> We are going to be in Danville, VA...prolly cow tipping will be the most fun thing to do at night. Hopefully this wouldn't be a determining factor on whether or not you come. </span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote </td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">How early do you have to wake up in the morning</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Schedule has not yet been posted. I'd imagine you'd have to be there for registration/tech no later than 10am, but we'll have to wait and see...hope we don't have to be there at 8am. Here's the links you'll need http://www.nasaracing.net http://www.virclub.com http://www.turnfast.com (i'm sure they'll cover a lot in the class, may help if you already know some of it so you don't have to think about so much all at once) $300? Man, sometimes, I love living with my parents <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Edit: Here's some more pics... __________________

09-12-2002, 10:45 AM	#7
LanceS13 AutoX Junkie Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: MS Age: 39 Posts: 2,044 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	One day...one day.... I would love to go, but I don't see me putting myself 1000 miles from home with the possiblility of my car becoming immobilized.  I need a reliable tow vehicle.  I guess I'm stuck with lapping days at the comparably inferior 1.8 mi. No Problem Raceway until then. Kinda sucks you don't get to experience the uphill esses, though...now those look like fun. <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/notify.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':notify:'> ...one day...... __________________ 1992 240SX Fastback #47 DSP MS SCCA RX-7 ITS Project FOR SALE

09-12-2002, 07:41 PM	#8
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 40 Posts: 6,518 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well,..  I'm signed up!  CANT WAIT!..  Talked my gf into moving a week earlier, so she can come with me.  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  EVERYONE SHOULD [email protected]! BTW..  I didn't see where you could change the team?? __________________

09-11-2002, 09:52 AM	#2
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	If I had the money I'd definitely be there.  $300 is a lot to a college kid, especially when I just bought a new $11,000 bike (pics of that will be posted in OT in about a week)... Sigh, I wish I could go though, it'd be a blast!

09-11-2002, 02:27 PM	#3
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I'm there, Just a few questions. When is the cutoff date? What do I need to pass tech, (cars struggling a little at the moment) How much do you think a hotel room would be. Is there anything to do after the track on friday sat night? (bars etc) How early do you have to wake up in the morning - related to question above <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Edit: can I rent a helmet or do I have to buy one? Thank Jed __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

09-12-2002, 09:26 AM	#6
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Wow - glad to see everyone interested!!   Let's see... 1.  Yes - you have to be a NASA member to run a full HPDE.  Cost, iirc, is $30.  Next year - join early and it's like $15! 2.  There is a cutoff date- but it will be full way before that.  I'd say w/n 2-3 weeks of the event, it will be full.  Maybe sooner for beginner groups. 3.  Tech is easy.  The bottom line is to make sure your car is safe and to make sure you aren't going to ruin everyone else's fun by dumping oil or something.  Take a look at the sheet. 4.  Lodging.  There are two ways to go.  a) camping at the track.  I think it's $10 and there are a lot of racers that stick around.  Everybody has a really good time. b) the Innkeeper West.  Rates are about $55/night (as of 02/02).  You get a bed, no bugs, and protection from storms.  See entertainment below! 5.  Entertainment.  Again, two ways to go.  At the track, there are campfires, stupid antics, and great advice.  In town at one of the hotels, there are stupid antics and great advice.  Actually, the parking lot at the InnKeeper is right next to the cruise McDonalds and it becomes a parade route for ricers checking out the race cars.  FUNNY.  VERY FUNNY. 6.  WARNING / THE NEXT DAY - if you get sh!tty the night before, you will suffer the next day.  I've had friend boot and rally after a late night of watching dancers and drinking in WV.  You DON'T want to be that guy.  While you wouldn't think it, doing a track day like this takes a LOT out of you.  Most people go to bed no later than midnight.       Oh yeah - all hands meetings at a rural track like VIR are bright and early (about 8<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0).  (no lights to run under either)  Gates usually open at 7<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 a.m. and before you run, there's always stuff to do.  If you are looking to get lit, this ain't the environment.  If you are looking to hang out, pit race, and shoot the breeze w/ some people who know more about cars and driving than most of us will ever... and drive like hell during the day - It's a good scene.  Remember- you are paying $300 to do this - don't ruin the time for yourself.  Take it seriously. I'm not sure now whether I'll be camping or hotelling.  The camp sounds fun... but I like beds.  Not sure if I have a roommate yet either, but we should all get together so that those that are going to stay in a room can hook up.   mark

09-12-2002, 08:32 PM	#9
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	you change it on your car's setup, not personal info. __________________

09-12-2002, 09:55 PM	#10
AKADriver Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Springfield, VA Age: 39 Posts: 3,112 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That's it...  I've been meaning to do this for a long time.  I'm signing up right now.  Hope to see all of you there...  I'll probably be camping, S13 fastback with seats down = BED! OK... now I've got a month to buy a helmet, get new brake pads and fluid, and get an alignment.  DC area people, what's a good place to try on some SA2k helmets?

09-13-2002, 05:53 AM	#11
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 42 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Just signed up gents and I will see you there.  If I am not there then I am dead....so barring any unfourtunate incidents such as that I will be there.  Look for the red s13 w/ the SR baby <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

09-13-2002, 09:46 AM	#12
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	WOW - this is friggin awesome! By my count, we've got: me sykik AKA NR uuninja and Dave is pending. Joe McG is an instructor who drives an s14 (although not on any boards).  I haven't seen Brad's name (who's also an s14 owning instructor) on the list yet. That should be at least 6 of us from here.  I know that at 11 people, we would get a 10% discount.  I'm checking to see if any lower numbers get us anything.  That and trying to convince a few other people to change their team name.  If you know anyone else who may be going - get them to sign up w/ Zilvia.  It would pay for your gas for the weekend!  (BTW: the discount is given out as a cash refund at the event) AKA - that's not bad.  I've got to do most of that stuff too.  As for helmets - check out OG Racing.  They're in Manassas, but they have a great selection,  good prices, know their chit and are super helpful.  I think I'm going to pick up some gloves b/f Oct., myself. Camping will likely be $10/tent.  Don't know anything about sleeping in cars prices.  I'm still not too sure what I'm doing.  I may buy a tent for the fun of it... or may just split a room w/ someone.  I'll keep this thread posted when I hear more. This is great!

09-13-2002, 09:58 AM	#13
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 40 Posts: 6,518 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Team name changed to Zilvia.   Should we post on FA?  not sure how many NC, VA, MD, etc, people over there, but you never know. __________________

09-13-2002, 09:59 AM	#14
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 40 Posts: 6,518 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (Foxcolt @ Sep. 11 2002,4:27)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE">I'm there, Just a few questions. When is the cutoff date? What do I need to pass tech, (cars struggling a little at the moment) How much do you think a hotel room would be. Is there anything to do after the track on friday sat night? (bars etc) How early do you have to wake up in the morning - related to question above <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Edit: can I rent a helmet or do I have to buy one? Thank Jed</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> Foxcolt - if your comming that would be 7!  so what do ya say? __________________

09-13-2002, 10:05 AM	#15
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 42 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have a question:  My wife wants to come and I would like her to come also.   Is this a good idea? Will she be bored out of her mind or will she be able to sit in w/ me on the classes? I was going to sign her up but she decided that it would be too expensive so she passed <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>   But I want her to come unless she won't enjoy herself. __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

09-13-2002, 10:08 AM	#16
Foxcolt Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 1,264 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (sykikchimp @ Sep. 13 2002,10:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"></td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> I haven't registered yet. Kinda scared... Aw Fook it, who cares if I slam my car in the sidewall right! Actually I'm scared of finding out I'm not as good of a driver as I think I am <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Edit: Ok I'm gonna register on tuesday since as of right now I dont even have enough money for the 30 NASA registration. __________________ Driftec www.midatlantic240sx.com

09-13-2002, 11:45 AM	#17
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I think we should definately hit FA too.  I lost my password, but go ahead and post.  There are a couple guys from there that I think might show up.  I know there are a few members there from NC.  Maybe Greaser, etc. too?  It's worth a shot.   Nr - if the wife is interested in driving at one some other time, this would be a great introduction.  There are a lot of wives and GFs that come out (mine would, but only to Summit) and I've seen at least a couple sitting in on classes.  Honestly though, if she likes cars, don't be surprised when she is out watching the cars - usually the advanced and some of the race groups are out when novice are in class <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/smile.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>  Let's see - watch a 348 Challenge Car or GT Porsche or listen to how to set up for Nasscar Bend?  At this event, there will ALWAYS be someone on track to watch and you'll be amazed at how little time you have in the pits b/n class, instructor advice, and car checking time.  NOTE: she can't ride in your car when you are on track except during the parade laps at lunch time. Foxcolt - the odds of you hitting a wall at your first HPDE are very low.  If you take a look at the VIR website, you'll notice how few walls there are there (unlike LMS or CMP).  It is very rare for a car to get bent up in the novice group also b/c a) you aren't that fast and b) you aren't taking big risks.  The only car's I've seen get bent are people in advanced group or people w/ high horsepower cars like Rx-7 turbos.   But yeah - you will find out how much you suck as a driver  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'>  The worst is when you ride w/ an instructor in something like a 100 hp Civic and you realize how much faster he's going than you could EVER dream of.  Or maybe that's the best? <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/tounge.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

09-13-2002, 04:10 PM	#18
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Well, I'm now an offical NASA member <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> but I can't sign up for the HPDE until monday night.  So I'm going 100% for sure unless it somehow fills up before monday night <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> Go team Zilvia <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________

09-13-2002, 06:11 PM	#19
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 42 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I have changed my team name from not applicable to team Zilvia, well actually just Zilvia.  Rock-on <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

09-17-2002, 07:14 AM	#20
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dave?  Did you get in? For those still in limbo - I suggest you register if you want to.  If you don't do it soon it won't be an option. Mark, who's gettin' antsy already <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''>

09-17-2002, 04:19 PM	#21
AuburnRyan Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Northern VA Posts: 272 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This would be completely new for me but (all I've done is solo 2...and in my honda)..I'm totally interested <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/hehe.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':hehe:'> .  I also saw the event for Summit Point in early November, I'm not trying to dissuade anybody, but it's closer for me...Is anyone going to this?  Thanks in advance, and tell me if I'm isiing something.  i.e. this is not open to us, the danville one is much better, etc. __________________ '93 Fastback LE - Wrecked '91 Fastback HICAS and LSD - Sold '93 Fastback SE - Current

09-17-2002, 04:52 PM	#22
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Ok, my money is all messed up...I think I overspent 1/3 of my check away before I even got it <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> I'm still going though, just won't be able to register till wednesday night after I get all this stuff taken care off...carpayment comes from this check too <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/nervous.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':nervous:'> Good news though, my SS lines and rear pads came in today. So if my rotors ever come in, I'll have all new brakes for the VIR weekend. If I make enough $$ on my next check (sept 30th, and I think I will) and if it's not full by then, I'll be going to summit point also <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> I've been trying to get on a track since oct 2001, so now that I can finally do it...I'm going all out <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/biggrin.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Edit: there are already 35 novice ppl going...how many do they take? ? ?  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/huh.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':huh:'>  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> __________________

09-18-2002, 06:59 PM	#23
planb Leaky Injector Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: raleigh nc Posts: 132 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wish i could make this one.... I might go up there to watch, and meet all of you. But I just dont have the cash for the event plus what it would cost to get my car ready for the event. Sykik, were you at hyperfest in charlotte? __________________

09-18-2002, 08:05 PM	#24
DrDubbleB Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,119 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Yup, I wish I had the cash to make it, I long to run at a track!!!  Sigh, it'll have to wait until I get my bike paid off probably.

09-18-2002, 08:20 PM	#25
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Alright, 36 novice's now.  I hope the limit is 40+ I'll be signing up tonight at 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>1am  <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/thumbs-up.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':thumbsup:'> that's when my money arives.  I owed my bank $300! I can't believe I overspent soo much, I've never totally lost track of my money like that before.  So nearly a 3rd of my paycheck went to that <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> but I should still be able to make it to summit point also so it's all good. __________________

09-19-2002, 05:37 AM	#26
nrcooled Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Turn 8 'bout to get rolled by a SC'd ITR Age: 42 Posts: 1,849 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Dave, Did you get signed up.  The way I look at it the more the merrier.  And to have a big Zilvia turn out would be the Shiznet.  And everyone bring your stinking cameras.   Also has anyone made arrangements for lodging.  I need the scoop on that so I can go ahead and get something set up. Thanks in advance Bakari __________________ '91 hatch w/ SR Sold; '03 Evo Sold 401 HP; '03 MS Protege sold; '00 Evo 6.5 TME Sold 300HP

09-19-2002, 03:04 PM	#27
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 40 Posts: 6,518 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	</span><table border="0" align="center" width="95%" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="1"><tr><td>Quote (planb @ Sep. 18 2002,8:59)</td></tr><tr><td id="QUOTE"> Sykik, were you at hyperfest in charlotte?</td></tr></table><span id='postcolor'> yes in deed.. I saw your car, actually walked up and said hi, but it looked like you were doing something with your car.. and I had to get ready for my run, so I left you alone. Bakari - I gotta figure out lodging too.  I'm pretty sure my Girlfriend won't want to camp.  Mark, any suggestions? __________________

09-19-2002, 03:20 PM	#28
DSC New Title Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: VA Posts: 3,454 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	CLOSED <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/mad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':angry:'> Damnit, I'm on the waiting list. I'm registering for summit point now guys.  I won't know if I can go to VIR till a week before <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> so I'll have money for it then...I'll spend my $300 for summit point now so I can guarintee I'll get it. disapointed man, today has been pretty shitty.  Bank took $400 btw, not 300 <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/cry.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> work sucked total ass.  but hell, i got my rotors...after waiting a month and a half.  And I'm going to summit point so I guess its not all bad trying to make things better I'm gona get shitty tomorrow night, so I've got something to look forward too... __________________

09-22-2002, 08:34 AM	#29
HippoSleek Nissanaholic! Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: elsewhere Posts: 2,081 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Sorry I was in Texas all week... ugh <img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/sad.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=''> Dave - damb you and your spending habits!! A bit of advice - get in touch w/ Elise at nasa (I think she's [email protected] - but the link is on the site). Find out where you are in the line up and tell her what happened and how much you want to go. Tell her that you understand that it won't change anything, but that you would like to know whether you should make plans (i.e., you are close enough on the list that you are likely to get in). People always cancel and, for better or worse, I think NASA has some favorites that might be able to pass you on the wait list unless you beg. Elise is really cool - so she'll understand. Charles - there is a Holiday Inn that is for the quiet folks and the InnKeeper West for the rowdy kids. The Innkeeper is a scene - the parking lot becomes a little party. It's fun - but get a room on the far side of the hotel from the McDonalds if you want to sleep b/f 12<img src="http://www.zilvia.net/f/iB_html/non-cgi/emoticons/wow.gif" border="0" valign="absmiddle" alt=':0'>0 (you probably will). I'd have to check out mapquest or something to see the other hotels in that immediate area - but you'll want to be on that side of town. Plus, that way you won't get lost b/c you can just follow the caravans back and forth to the track. I've gotta make some plans myself!  edit:  look for hotels in Danville, VA - that's where the InnKeeper and HI are. I've got to catch up w/ a few people, but I might have more info soon.

09-23-2002, 03:41 PM	#30
sykikchimp WOW addicted Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: the moon Age: 40 Posts: 6,518 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Mark - Thanks for the info, but from looking at Orbitz there are 3 innKeepers within 25 miles of VIR's address.  Closest one is actually in Roxboro, NC at 13 miles.  Can you get me a phone number, or address?  sorry to be a pest. __________________

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