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Old 02-06-2003, 08:43 PM   #31
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i wouldnt rush it, it'd be easier to aim for the 1st race of next season. if you rush it, you could do things sloppy, or in a hurry and end up with a poor car b/c you tried to squeeze into that final race. thats just what id do though... make sure u keep us updated...
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Old 02-06-2003, 11:31 PM   #32
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don't worry about that. those who know me would expect the car to be "overdone," not done sloppily.
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Old 02-07-2003, 06:02 AM   #33
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One school? (SCCA requires two - and offers the schools twice a year). If I find a wad of cash, I'll be in the fall school, then develop the car over the winter, then do the spring school and race next season. Most likely, I won't run a school until next spring. Sucks.

As for speed - I dunno. I think b/n 2 intermediate drivers, the Mazda might win, but the Miata runs in ITA (not "wins" in ITA) and the 240 runs in ITS. Given the same driver and same set up, the 240 will pwN the Miata.

I agree, however, that a prepped, RA1 shod Miata will roll a 240 on street tires.
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Old 02-07-2003, 09:41 AM   #34
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don't you have to have a prepped car to run the school? Or do you just have to meet the safety requirements with a roll bar?
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Old 02-07-2003, 10:35 AM   #35
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i can't remember exactly how MC does the schooling, but iirc, there's one day of classroom, then one day of on track, then you get your novice liscense. then you gotta put those big red X's on your car so people know to watch the fug out. from the time you get your novice liscense, you have to complete 6 races in 1 year without major incident, then you get your full comp.

as far as what's faster.......yes, i was comparing a SM to a basically stock 240. there's no doubt it'll handle better, but i was more talking about acceleration. now when you compare a prepped 240 to a prepped miata........i dunno, i'd have to look at the min weight of the 240 and some other things to really make a decent judgement.

and charles........i think as long as you meet the safety requirements, you can participate in the school and run races; you'll get killed, but you can do it.
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you'll get killed, but you can do it.
I expect that.. I'm just looking at possiblities to get my license without having to fully prep the car yet.. give me the ability to spread out the setup over more time.

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Old 02-09-2003, 05:14 PM   #37
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Travis,

before you do anything or listen to anyone's hearsay, go drive every single car on the list. Here's a good starting point



do yourself a favor and go drive one. If you want more understeer and weight, go for an e36 by all means. (The prospect of a '95 3.2 OBD1 Stg 2+ is very enticing, but so is the howl of an s14 rolling thru the revs to an 8k rev limit). The e30 is a true drivers car in every sense, its not for those who expect compromises.
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Charles - NASA and SCCA require the car meet safety standards. While that doesn't mean you need the proper modifications to run in the class, it does requires a cage that meets the GCR, spec harness, seat back brace, window net, fire bottle or system, etc.

Basically, the car must meet all minimum class specs for safety, but can run on stock suspension, full OEM exhaust, etc.
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M5.........
you know i would like to have the E30, ask DSC or many of the others, i had my heart set on one........until i started looking into the cost of rebuilding an engine. $600 for a set of intake valves??? you gotta be kidding me. i figured a rebuild to cost somewhere in the 5k range, which i couldn't really justify.......i'd still love to have an E30M3, but my financial situatin does not support it. maybe after i've run the SM for a couple years, i get one to turn into my race car. and btw........8k rev limit is pretty low for the S14 engine, according to turner and VAC motorsports, it's very capable of handling rpm's in the 5 digit range with the right valvetrain.

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-who like the guys on spinal tap, wants his car to rev to "11"
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Old 02-11-2003, 07:37 PM   #40
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M5.........
you know i would like to have the E30, ask DSC or many of the others, i had my heart set on one........until i started looking into the cost of rebuilding an engine. $600 for a set of intake valves??? you gotta be kidding me. i figured a rebuild to cost somewhere in the 5k range, which i couldn't really justify.......i'd still love to have an E30M3, but my financial situatin does not support it. maybe after i've run the SM for a couple years, i get one to turn into my race car. and btw........8k rev limit is pretty low for the S14 engine, according to turner and VAC motorsports, it's very capable of handling rpm's in the 5 digit range with the right valvetrain.

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-who like the guys on spinal tap, wants his car to rev to "11"
trav-

8k for a cheapo street motor... If the money is plentiful, the revving is [almost limitless] (talk to ron checca or will turner )

anyway, i understand an e30 isnt the most practical choice; it's probably the least. But driving one makes you forget everything. BTW, don't touch turner unless you like getting ripped off. Will is probably one of best e30 m3 guys, but hiss prices are ridiculous for some stuff. The Salloum Bros. @ VAC, OTOH, are a hardworking and much fairer priced bunch of guys.

Good luck with whatever you end up getting!
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Old 02-19-2003, 08:54 PM   #41
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this is a very interesting thread. what class were you planning on taking and how much is it? i wanted to go to a nice racing school, but if SCCA offers something more spesific for road racing then im all for it.
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