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michael1284 · 02-15-2005, 10:30 PM

I have a base model S14. Today I put the Fog Light relay into the fuse box. and got the S14 SE switch for the fog lights. Everything plugged in correctly, yet my fogs wont turn on. I already checked the fuse. Any ideas??

Base model -> fogs should only be 3 items:

Fogs, relay, switch. Am I missing anything?

240Stilo · 02-15-2005, 10:36 PM

I wired mine super simple-like. See what you do is take the two wires hooked up to the foglights and hook them up to the corner lights. When you turn on parking lights they go on and you're good to go.

michael1284 · 02-15-2005, 10:41 PM

i thought about doing that, but after having it all set up and stuff i figured it should work ;(

DocTaDrifT · 02-15-2005, 10:51 PM

if you wire it that way do you still need the relay?

240Stilo · 02-15-2005, 11:04 PM

Relay....hmmm not much into electronics. Is it a switch? All I know is if you do what I said and hook up the fog light wires to the wires powering the corner lights then you're done. Just make sure to hook up the positive with positive and negative with negative. Also be careful not touching wires when the lights are on cuz then you'll blow a fuse like me...yay!

Johny5 · 02-15-2005, 11:13 PM

you seriously wired your fogs to your corner lights? there is no god.

240Stilo · 02-15-2005, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Johny5

you seriously wired your fogs to your corner lights? there is no god.

Why? Ohhhhh yeaaah....I forgot to mention the last step. If you do it my way make sure to throw a dab of holy water on the lights or they won't shine with the divine light.

Johny5 · 02-15-2005, 11:55 PM

dude you fucking aren't kidding? you seriously wired your foglights to your corners? when our cars are prewired for fucking foglights?

240Stilo · 02-16-2005, 12:00 AM

I do not know what you speak of. There are the harnesses for foglights on base and SE models....yes I know that. The SE's have a switch for the foglights do they not? SO here's where I thought...well since there is no foglight switch hooked up to the wire then...did it my way. I don't argue with the route taken as long as I get to the destination fast and without losing anything.

stevebsvs · 02-16-2005, 12:04 AM

are there any current issues when wired to the corners? Also if you use the available wire harness, how would you control when they go on or off besides a stand alone switch?

240Stilo · 02-16-2005, 12:09 AM

The ONLY BIG ISSUE with wiring it to the corners is that IT WORKS.

skatanic28 · 02-16-2005, 12:34 AM

i would definately not recommend wiring it into the corners.

i used the corner lights to trigger a relay to turn on the lights.
no switches...fogs come on with parking lights, low beams, and high beams.

im sure theres a number of other ways to go about it though.

Ritz S14 · 02-16-2005, 12:38 AM

The problem with what you're doing is it can catch on fire..drawing too much current out of a thin wire. But it's not like you care anyways..that's why you did it that way.

michael1284 · 02-16-2005, 01:24 AM

K i finally found my 12v tester. This is what I did.

Took relay out. 12v tester into where relay plugs INTO. CHECK. POWER!!

Plug relay back in. Go to front where the harness goes into the Fog lights.
NO POWER!!

I was pondering...so I took out the H3 light bulb, took a wire and hooked up the light bulb to my corner light (i unplugged the corner light). Put another wire into the harness for the ground and grounded it to my car. NO LIGHT!!

Unless I'm doing something wrong w/ the H3 bulb, I'm guessing both relay and the bulb?!

One more thing, H3 bulbs are weird, they don't have a ground going directly to the light, so I just need a power going to it right? The ground from the harness would just go to metal on the body of my car...

One more thing...if i need a relay, does Radio shack sell these relays cheaper than an OEM from Nissan? Anyone know?

idlafie · 02-16-2005, 01:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael1284

I have a base model S14. Today I put the Fog Light relay into the fuse box. and got the S14 SE switch for the fog lights. Everything plugged in correctly, yet my fogs wont turn on. I already checked the fuse. Any ideas??

Base model -> fogs should only be 3 items:

Fogs, relay, switch. Am I missing anything?

I think there is a second relay that has to be installed. The harness is located behind the driver side kick panel. You'll have to use a genuine Nissan relay as it is the only type relay that will plug into that harness.
Anyhow, hope this helps...
ID

michael1284 · 02-16-2005, 01:33 AM

I checked there...I didn't see any fog light ones??

You are talking about where all those fuses are right? Where the panel comes off and theres a bunch of fuses?

idlafie · 02-16-2005, 02:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael1284

I checked there...I didn't see any fog light ones??

You are talking about where all those fuses are right? Where the panel comes off and theres a bunch of fuses?

Yep...where the fuses are at...behind the kickpanel that comes off. There's an empty blue (I think) harness somewhere in that particular area if I recall correctly. You kinda have to look around to find it. It' kinda hidden away. It's been a while, but I helped a fellow Zilvia member wire up his foglights. He had the same problem. He didn't have the second relay plugged in.
Anyhow, hope this helps..
ID

michael1284 · 02-16-2005, 09:08 AM

I checked there, there were 4 relays there already, no where to plug in another one...any ideas? I'm thinking it may be a relay, and I'm going to go try getting a new one :/

projectRDM · 02-16-2005, 09:51 AM

There are two relays on Kouki models only. One actually powers the foglamps and resides in the kick panel, the other controls low/high operation and is under the hood.
Zenki model S14s have only one relay, under the hood in the fusebox. In order to fully have them operational you need the relay, switch, and the fuse under the hood. Usually it's not in place.

Wiring them to the corners is the stupidest idea I've ever heard of. The fogs can draw up to 12A by themselves, the parking lamp circuit is only fused to 15A so it's easily possible to burn down the circuit, or blow the switch.

rainier · 02-16-2005, 11:13 AM

my harnesses were cut when i got my foglights so all i did was go to autozone and pick up a 4 channel wireless remote w/ box so u can turn it on without even worrying about that many wires. all you need to do is plug it straight to ur battery and everything is there. just mount it and then connect it to your foglights. and then you have this cool JDM apc remote to go with your keys

michael1284 · 02-16-2005, 02:04 PM

FOUND IT...its hidden way deep in a mess of wires....blue thanks everyone, took me so long to figure it out b/c it seems ZENKI and KOUKI were different :/

idlafie · 02-16-2005, 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michael1284

FOUND IT...its hidden way deep in a mess of wires....blue thanks everyone, took me so long to figure it out b/c it seems ZENKI and KOUKI were different :/

OH YEAH!!!...hella different!!...I learned this while comparing parts between my 95 SE & a 97 SE I parted out....

Shameless plug...
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...0&page=2&pp=30

If Nissan was trying to keep costs down, then why in the hell did they change all the harness plugs & stuff between 95-96 & 97-98? Seems like a silly way to run a business.....
ID

projectRDM · 02-16-2005, 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by idlafie

OH YEAH!!!...hella different!!...I learned this while comparing parts between my 95 SE & a 97 SE I parted out....

Shameless plug...
http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.p...0&page=2&pp=30

If Nissan was trying to keep costs down, then why in the hell did they change all the harness plugs & stuff between 95-96 & 97-98? Seems like a silly way to run a business.....
ID

Because the Kouki models run the lowbeams at all times. For the fogs to turn off with the highbeams there's another relay added to do that. But I agree that moving the main relay into the car was silly.

michael1284 · 02-16-2005, 07:13 PM

now that that is settled....anyone got any suggestions on some nice YELLOW bulbs like the zenki's? stupid auto stores in dallas have no h3 bulbs

pgt892 · 03-31-2005, 02:59 PM

I am having issues with my fog lights as well. I have a Kouki and didn't have them stock on the car. I bought a pair of Kouki fog lights from a wrecked car. I bought the relay for under the hood, and I just found out where the second relay in the kick panel goes. Does anyone have a Nissan part number for that relay or can I go to RadioShack and buy one? Thanks.

pgt892 · 04-04-2005, 04:48 PM

Bump for information.

projectRDM · 04-04-2005, 07:59 PM

OE only, standard blue SPST relay.

pgt892 · 04-05-2005, 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R240NA

OE only, standard blue SPST relay.

Would this be the correct relay?
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...97&catalogid=1
Is the relay the same one that's under the hood?

North240 · 04-05-2005, 09:28 AM

Now when you you wire your fogs to your parking lights do you actually see light output coming from them when you drive or do you just notice the yellow glow when you look at the car. They seem to be greatly underpowered. I suggest to anyone even thinking about doing it this way at least correct it, get a realy and use the parking ligh wire for a trigger switch NOT A POWER WIRE!

PS your car is going to look like my avitar if your not careful and change it!

projectRDM · 04-05-2005, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pgt892

Would this be the correct relay?
http://www.trademotion.com/partlocat...97&catalogid=1
Is the relay the same one that's under the hood?

Same. Go pick one up at a salvage yard.

02-15-2005, 10:30 PM	#1
michael1284 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	S14 Fogs help plz I have a base model S14. Today I put the Fog Light relay into the fuse box. and got the S14 SE switch for the fog lights. Everything plugged in correctly, yet my fogs wont turn on. I already checked the fuse. Any ideas?? Base model -> fogs should only be 3 items: Fogs, relay, switch. Am I missing anything?

02-15-2005, 10:36 PM	#2
240Stilo Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Socal Age: 37 Posts: 1,160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I wired mine super simple-like. See what you do is take the two wires hooked up to the foglights and hook them up to the corner lights. When you turn on parking lights they go on and you're good to go. __________________ -Juan

02-15-2005, 10:51 PM	#4
DocTaDrifT Zilvia Addict Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Montebello Age: 34 Posts: 966 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you wire it that way do you still need the relay? __________________ 09 VW GTi S14 not so daily driver

02-15-2005, 11:04 PM	#5
240Stilo Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Socal Age: 37 Posts: 1,160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Relay....hmmm not much into electronics. Is it a switch? All I know is if you do what I said and hook up the fog light wires to the wires powering the corner lights then you're done. Just make sure to hook up the positive with positive and negative with negative. Also be careful not touching wires when the lights are on cuz then you'll blow a fuse like me...yay! __________________ -Juan

02-15-2005, 11:13 PM	#6
Johny5 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas, Tx Age: 36 Posts: 3,221 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	you seriously wired your fogs to your corner lights? there is no god. __________________ www.stewartleask.com

02-15-2005, 10:41 PM	#3
michael1284 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i thought about doing that, but after having it all set up and stuff i figured it should work ;(

02-15-2005, 11:55 PM	#8
Johny5 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Dallas, Tx Age: 36 Posts: 3,221 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	dude you fucking aren't kidding? you seriously wired your foglights to your corners? when our cars are prewired for fucking foglights? __________________ www.stewartleask.com

02-16-2005, 12:00 AM	#9
240Stilo Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Socal Age: 37 Posts: 1,160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I do not know what you speak of. There are the harnesses for foglights on base and SE models....yes I know that. The SE's have a switch for the foglights do they not? SO here's where I thought...well since there is no foglight switch hooked up to the wire then...did it my way. I don't argue with the route taken as long as I get to the destination fast and without losing anything. __________________ -Juan

02-16-2005, 12:04 AM	#10
stevebsvs Zilvia Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Age: 41 Posts: 211 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	are there any current issues when wired to the corners? Also if you use the available wire harness, how would you control when they go on or off besides a stand alone switch? __________________

02-16-2005, 12:09 AM	#11
240Stilo Junkie Join Date: May 2002 Location: Socal Age: 37 Posts: 1,160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The ONLY BIG ISSUE with wiring it to the corners is that IT WORKS. __________________ -Juan

02-16-2005, 12:34 AM	#12
skatanic28 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: ny Age: 37 Posts: 443 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i would definately not recommend wiring it into the corners. i used the corner lights to trigger a relay to turn on the lights. no switches...fogs come on with parking lights, low beams, and high beams. im sure theres a number of other ways to go about it though.

02-16-2005, 12:38 AM	#13
Ritz S14 Post Whore! Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: C A L I F O R N I A Age: 39 Posts: 3,586 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The problem with what you're doing is it can catch on fire..drawing too much current out of a thin wire. But it's not like you care anyways..that's why you did it that way.

02-16-2005, 01:24 AM	#14
michael1284 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	K i finally found my 12v tester. This is what I did. Took relay out. 12v tester into where relay plugs INTO. CHECK. POWER!! Plug relay back in. Go to front where the harness goes into the Fog lights. NO POWER!! I was pondering...so I took out the H3 light bulb, took a wire and hooked up the light bulb to my corner light (i unplugged the corner light). Put another wire into the harness for the ground and grounded it to my car. NO LIGHT!! Unless I'm doing something wrong w/ the H3 bulb, I'm guessing both relay and the bulb?! One more thing, H3 bulbs are weird, they don't have a ground going directly to the light, so I just need a power going to it right? The ground from the harness would just go to metal on the body of my car... One more thing...if i need a relay, does Radio shack sell these relays cheaper than an OEM from Nissan? Anyone know?

02-16-2005, 01:33 AM	#16
michael1284 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I checked there...I didn't see any fog light ones?? You are talking about where all those fuses are right? Where the panel comes off and theres a bunch of fuses?

02-16-2005, 09:08 AM	#18
michael1284 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I checked there, there were 4 relays there already, no where to plug in another one...any ideas? I'm thinking it may be a relay, and I'm going to go try getting a new one :/

02-16-2005, 09:51 AM	#19
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 47 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	There are two relays on Kouki models only. One actually powers the foglamps and resides in the kick panel, the other controls low/high operation and is under the hood. Zenki model S14s have only one relay, under the hood in the fusebox. In order to fully have them operational you need the relay, switch, and the fuse under the hood. Usually it's not in place. Wiring them to the corners is the stupidest idea I've ever heard of. The fogs can draw up to 12A by themselves, the parking lamp circuit is only fused to 15A so it's easily possible to burn down the circuit, or blow the switch. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

02-16-2005, 11:13 AM	#20
rainier Nissanaholic! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: San Diego / Santa Ana Age: 34 Posts: 2,093 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	my harnesses were cut when i got my foglights so all i did was go to autozone and pick up a 4 channel wireless remote w/ box so u can turn it on without even worrying about that many wires. all you need to do is plug it straight to ur battery and everything is there. just mount it and then connect it to your foglights. and then you have this cool JDM apc remote to go with your keys __________________

02-16-2005, 02:04 PM	#21
michael1284 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	FOUND IT...its hidden way deep in a mess of wires....blue thanks everyone, took me so long to figure it out b/c it seems ZENKI and KOUKI were different :/

02-16-2005, 07:13 PM	#24
michael1284 Zilvia Member Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Dallas Posts: 243 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	now that that is settled....anyone got any suggestions on some nice YELLOW bulbs like the zenki's? stupid auto stores in dallas have no h3 bulbs Last edited by michael1284; 02-16-2005 at 07:53 PM..

03-31-2005, 02:59 PM	#25
pgt892 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indinappy Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am having issues with my fog lights as well. I have a Kouki and didn't have them stock on the car. I bought a pair of Kouki fog lights from a wrecked car. I bought the relay for under the hood, and I just found out where the second relay in the kick panel goes. Does anyone have a Nissan part number for that relay or can I go to RadioShack and buy one? Thanks.

04-04-2005, 04:48 PM	#26
pgt892 Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Indinappy Posts: 20 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Bump for information.

04-04-2005, 07:59 PM	#27
projectRDM Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Age: 47 Posts: 13,812 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	OE only, standard blue SPST relay. __________________ FORMERLY R240NA Learn what's really going on and protect your assets now before they're gone forever: www.paypalsucks.com

04-05-2005, 09:28 AM	#29
North240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Portland, MAINE Age: 39 Posts: 350 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Now when you you wire your fogs to your parking lights do you actually see light output coming from them when you drive or do you just notice the yellow glow when you look at the car. They seem to be greatly underpowered. I suggest to anyone even thinking about doing it this way at least correct it, get a realy and use the parking ligh wire for a trigger switch NOT A POWER WIRE! PS your car is going to look like my avitar if your not careful and change it! __________________ ROUND 2

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