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Old 07-26-2012, 10:06 PM   #1
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new 2015 S chassis AKA downgraded Z

Well my fellow s chassis owners! We've all be awaiting the return of the next gen s chassis. Well Nissan has answered our request, here it is. The blasphemous downgrade to a wonderful platform. Too lazy to design a new chassis those idiots decided to put a 4 cyl in a Z! Well ill still try and buy one but ill be pulling my vq35hr out of the 40 and putting it in the z where it belongs! Just my 2 cents

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Old 07-26-2012, 10:12 PM   #2
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It's still a Z, not an s-chassis...
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Hoffman5982 ur not understanding what I'm trying to say! Yes its a Z. Nissan wanted a newer cheaper rwd chassis that us s chassis folks can afford. that will compete with the new yota and subi and genesis, but instead of designing a new chassis to meet our needs / request for one, those lazy idiots completly destroyed what a z is all about. They are planning to remove the great power plant we know as the vq and replacing with a 4 cyl...keep the z a 6cyl and redesign a new affordable chassis....
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i guess it's similar with the new infinitis having the G25, and four cylinder counterpart to the G37......
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Well, the current Z chassis is already well engineered. So, there's worse things we could get.
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i guess it's similar with the new infinitis having the G25, and four cylinder counterpart to the G37......

The g25 is actually a v6 its just a 2.5 v6...
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I think it's time some people try to understand that from a company perspective it's all about units sold. If todays market demands better gas mileage/lower emissions, and that's what consumers are leaning towards and buying, then a company will gear their cars towards that to get as big of a return as possible. "Tuner" markets are a very small market, no matter what you think.
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I think it's a good move for Nissan. The z does need to trim a little weight. Nissan has reached the peak of the vq line of engines, says the Nissan engineers. Sure they can throw some turbos on a vq but then you are talking money. Even more than the bloated price now. With the strict gov EPA regulations across the world Nissan doesn't really have a choice. It was inevitable. Hopefully they can still provide innovation with the next gen with a reasonable price.

Nissan isn't the only car maker doing this. Rumors are for the next mustang gt to be a turboed 6 cyl. The next gen mustang is also supposedly dropping weight and size to be marketed as a world car.
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I think it's time some people try to understand that from a company perspective it's all about units sold. If todays market demands better gas mileage/lower emissions, and that's what consumers are leaning towards and buying, then a company will gear their cars towards that to get as big of a return as possible. "Tuner" markets are a very small market, no matter what you think.
Yes I know! And i do understand that's why... I'm just mad at the fact and venting....
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Old 07-27-2012, 11:49 AM   #11
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I can't wait till Hungary decides to redesign and bring back the Horse & Buggy.
Lol it would save me gas money.
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keeping the 370 body style though? wtf that shit is fugly hence why it hasn't sold well
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If this is there plain I say they should redesign a new front end and offer a coupe variant.
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lol lightweight my stripped s chassis is 800lbs lighter
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Hope someone gets some spy pics of the car.
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got me excited for nothing i was a expecting a S chassis not a Z....
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Old news and a bunch of crap. The car is rumored to be using the Juke chassis which means FWD/AWD, NO RWD!!!

This has already been covered in the thread below....

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/1...pe-thread.html

Be sure to stop by Nissans Facebook page and let them know what you think of the new FWD mini-Z that is supposed to be taking on the RWD BRZ/FRS/GT86 and Genesis Coupe.

https://www.facebook.com/Nissan

Nissan has given an open invitation PUBLICLY for their customers to let them know what they think of their products and what NEW products they should be researching/building for upcoming offerings. So, again, make sure to stop by Nissans FB page and let them what you think of the fact we havent had a new S chassis for 12 years and of their brand new FWD Mini Z
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^^^

That car is an absolute abomination. I hate it so bad. I really hope its not for real. When I first read that article, I raged soooo hard that I created a login and posted a comment. So mad.

As for a "mini Z".

It had better be a 2+2 like the FRS/BRZ. That expands the audience greatly as well as allowing for more versatility.

Basically unless Nissan can get their shit together in the next 3-4 years, I will be purchasing a FRS. Not that stoked on a flat 4 but at least the chassis is well engineered and the price is low.
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Old news and a bunch of crap. The car is rumored to be using the Juke chassis which means FWD/AWD, NO RWD!!!

This has already been covered in the thread below....

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/1...pe-thread.html

Be sure to stop by Nissans Facebook page and let them know what you think of the new FWD mini-Z that is supposed to be taking on the RWD BRZ/FRS/GT86 and Genesis Coupe.

https://www.facebook.com/Nissan

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I was just about to post that. I didn't know about the AWD. I admit that makes it better but if i wanted a turbo 4 with AWD I'd buy a subaru.
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Basically unless Nissan can get their shit together in the next 3-4 years, I will be purchasing a FRS. Not that stoked on a flat 4 but at least the chassis is well engineered and the price is low.
That's why they mentioned 2014. While Toyobaru is enjoying their success, the car itself is expensive enough to meet near 300hp level cars (even a used 370z is cheaper).

Nissan hopefully will find a way to put more bang for your buck on 300HP to compete with the FR-S. Right now, the FR-S is on a bracket similar to a 370z, BRZ, WRX, Mazda Speed3....

....my god, forget about competition, we're should be darn happy there's so much variation now than back in 2000 when every bloody person want to go Hon-duh-like performance.
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I was just about to post that. I didn't know about the AWD. I admit that makes it better but if i wanted a turbo 4 with AWD I'd buy a subaru.
I was about to say that it had been mentioned before in those threads also. I have to disagree with just buying a Subaru. There's other 4cyl AWD Turbos like an EVO or and r32 golf
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Basically unless Nissan can get their shit together in the next 3-4 years, I will be purchasing a FRS. Not that stoked on a flat 4 but at least the chassis is well engineered and the price is low.

Seriously,

I doubt ANY car company is going to make/market there vehicles to buyers 3-4yrs from now when there are people looking to buy asap. Trends change and 3-4 yrs is a long time.... We could even have a morman president by then!!
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I doubt ANY car company is going to make/market there vehicles to buyers 3-4yrs from now when there are people looking to buy asap. Trends change and 3-4 yrs is a long time.... We could even have a morman president by then!!
Seriously?

Toyota put 10 years of R&D into the LFA and still had to put a Yamaha engine in it. 3-4 years is typical to go from idea to production for any car company (for a completely new chassis). Let's just hope that "mini Z", as called by the morons at Motortrend, stays an idea...
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If anything, they should just redesign a newer S-chassis. no necessarily call it an S-chassis. Like how honda brought back the CRX, it came out to be the CR-Z and same with FT-86
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nissan HAD the new S chassis in clay and ready to show...theyre missing the ball again like theyve done SO many times already in the last 12 years *face/desk*
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They are planning to remove the great power plant we know as the vq and replacing with a 4 cyl...keep the z a 6cyl and redesign a new affordable chassis....
The V6 isn't even that great, it's good, but nothing amazing. A lighter chassis with a presumably higher revving turbo charged 4 cylinder would be funner vs having a light chassis and a heavy ass V6 that likes guzzling gas and cries at the thought of being boosted. Now I'm saying this for this new "leaner Z," I'm not saying the current Z should have a 4 banger.
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