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07-26-2012, 10:06 PM | #1 |
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new 2015 S chassis AKA downgraded Z
Well my fellow s chassis owners! We've all be awaiting the return of the next gen s chassis. Well Nissan has answered our request, here it is. The blasphemous downgrade to a wonderful platform. Too lazy to design a new chassis those idiots decided to put a 4 cyl in a Z! Well ill still try and buy one but ill be pulling my vq35hr out of the 40 and putting it in the z where it belongs! Just my 2 cents
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07-26-2012, 10:24 PM | #4 |
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Hoffman5982 ur not understanding what I'm trying to say! Yes its a Z. Nissan wanted a newer cheaper rwd chassis that us s chassis folks can afford. that will compete with the new yota and subi and genesis, but instead of designing a new chassis to meet our needs / request for one, those lazy idiots completly destroyed what a z is all about. They are planning to remove the great power plant we know as the vq and replacing with a 4 cyl...keep the z a 6cyl and redesign a new affordable chassis....
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07-26-2012, 10:41 PM | #8 |
I think it's time some people try to understand that from a company perspective it's all about units sold. If todays market demands better gas mileage/lower emissions, and that's what consumers are leaning towards and buying, then a company will gear their cars towards that to get as big of a return as possible. "Tuner" markets are a very small market, no matter what you think.
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I think it's a good move for Nissan. The z does need to trim a little weight. Nissan has reached the peak of the vq line of engines, says the Nissan engineers. Sure they can throw some turbos on a vq but then you are talking money. Even more than the bloated price now. With the strict gov EPA regulations across the world Nissan doesn't really have a choice. It was inevitable. Hopefully they can still provide innovation with the next gen with a reasonable price.
Nissan isn't the only car maker doing this. Rumors are for the next mustang gt to be a turboed 6 cyl. The next gen mustang is also supposedly dropping weight and size to be marketed as a world car.
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Old news and a bunch of crap. The car is rumored to be using the Juke chassis which means FWD/AWD, NO RWD!!!
This has already been covered in the thread below.... http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/1...pe-thread.html Be sure to stop by Nissans Facebook page and let them know what you think of the new FWD mini-Z that is supposed to be taking on the RWD BRZ/FRS/GT86 and Genesis Coupe. https://www.facebook.com/Nissan Nissan has given an open invitation PUBLICLY for their customers to let them know what they think of their products and what NEW products they should be researching/building for upcoming offerings. So, again, make sure to stop by Nissans FB page and let them what you think of the fact we havent had a new S chassis for 12 years and of their brand new FWD Mini Z |
07-27-2012, 04:07 PM | #22 |
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That car is an absolute abomination. I hate it so bad. I really hope its not for real. When I first read that article, I raged soooo hard that I created a login and posted a comment. So mad. As for a "mini Z". It had better be a 2+2 like the FRS/BRZ. That expands the audience greatly as well as allowing for more versatility. Basically unless Nissan can get their shit together in the next 3-4 years, I will be purchasing a FRS. Not that stoked on a flat 4 but at least the chassis is well engineered and the price is low.
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Nissan hopefully will find a way to put more bang for your buck on 300HP to compete with the FR-S. Right now, the FR-S is on a bracket similar to a 370z, BRZ, WRX, Mazda Speed3.... ....my god, forget about competition, we're should be darn happy there's so much variation now than back in 2000 when every bloody person want to go Hon-duh-like performance. |
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07-27-2012, 05:12 PM | #25 |
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I was about to say that it had been mentioned before in those threads also. I have to disagree with just buying a Subaru. There's other 4cyl AWD Turbos like an EVO or and r32 golf
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07-27-2012, 05:40 PM | #26 | |
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Seriously, I doubt ANY car company is going to make/market there vehicles to buyers 3-4yrs from now when there are people looking to buy asap. Trends change and 3-4 yrs is a long time.... We could even have a morman president by then!! |
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Toyota put 10 years of R&D into the LFA and still had to put a Yamaha engine in it. 3-4 years is typical to go from idea to production for any car company (for a completely new chassis). Let's just hope that "mini Z", as called by the morons at Motortrend, stays an idea... |
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07-27-2012, 08:56 PM | #28 |
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If anything, they should just redesign a newer S-chassis. no necessarily call it an S-chassis. Like how honda brought back the CRX, it came out to be the CR-Z and same with FT-86
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nissan HAD the new S chassis in clay and ready to show...theyre missing the ball again like theyve done SO many times already in the last 12 years *face/desk*
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07-27-2012, 09:10 PM | #30 |
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The V6 isn't even that great, it's good, but nothing amazing. A lighter chassis with a presumably higher revving turbo charged 4 cylinder would be funner vs having a light chassis and a heavy ass V6 that likes guzzling gas and cries at the thought of being boosted. Now I'm saying this for this new "leaner Z," I'm not saying the current Z should have a 4 banger.
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