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PoorMans180SX · 02-27-2018, 07:54 AM

In the quest to bring you high quality and affordable products, I've fabricated this baffled power steering reservoir prototype. I'll be submitting this through the full rigors of track abuse, as it's been quite successful on my daily.

The kit I've come up with using the KRC reservoir is quite effective, but cost prohibitive to a lot of people.

Is there anything you'd like to see in a power steering kit that you don't find on the market currently? I have personal experience with another kit and it was woefully lacking in the ability to keep fluid in the reservoir and not leak out the rack. I've solved those issues already.

tuzzio · 02-27-2018, 08:06 AM

Very interesting. I'd consider being interested in one if you also produced more of a stock sized one (I understand why yours is larger than OEM) as I have mine mounted up by the clutch master so space is important to me.

Obviously, price dependent.

PoorMans180SX · 02-27-2018, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by tuzzio

Very interesting. I'd consider being interested in one if you also produced more of a stock sized one (I understand why yours is larger than OEM) as I have mine mounted up by the clutch master so space is important to me.

Obviously, price dependent.

Do you track your car? If so, do you have issues with it there? I’ve seen a couple people do this, but none that see the track.

240KA · 02-27-2018, 12:50 PM

damn...that's one expensive reservoir. what are the benefits to using that reservoir? the two that i see are, larger capacity and filtration.

PoorMans180SX · 02-27-2018, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by 240KA

damn...that's one expensive reservoir. what are the benefits to using that reservoir? the two that i see are, larger capacity and filtration.

It's the ONLY off the shelf can that will stop the pump from ingesting air from pump cavitation or overheating. This is due to increased capacity and because it's very well baffled. My reservoir mimics these without the filter, which you don't really need. I'll be testing this one on track and then moving forward with production if it's successful.

tuzzio · 02-28-2018, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

Do you track your car? If so, do you have issues with it there? I’ve seen a couple people do this, but none that see the track.

I do not, however I do know people who do and don't have any issues with it up there. MOST of my issues (so far) have been due to leaky racks / fittings.

I'd assume with the longer lines (I'd imagine its less than a foot) it should technically help with cooling anyways.

jedi03 · 02-28-2018, 08:36 AM

for the track people why not add a cooler to the kit?

PoorMans180SX · 02-28-2018, 01:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jedi03

for the track people why not add a cooler to the kit?

That's cake, but unnecessary for 95% of people who will buy this. We can easily add it as an option.

RalliartRsX · 02-28-2018, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

It's the ONLY off the shelf can that will stop the pump from ingesting air from pump cavitation or overheating. This is due to increased capacity and because it's very well baffled. My reservoir mimics these without the filter, which you don't really need. I'll be testing this one on track and then moving forward with production if it's successful.

So how much for the kit without the fancy KRC res?? I see it on your site for 450 for the kit with the KRC goodies??

240KA · 02-28-2018, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PoorMans180SX

It's the ONLY off the shelf can that will stop the pump from ingesting air from pump cavitation or overheating. This is due to increased capacity and because it's very well baffled. My reservoir mimics these without the filter, which you don't really need. I'll be testing this one on track and then moving forward with production if it's successful.

awwwww, come on man! don't say "ONLY"!!!! what other reservoirs do you have experience with? i'm actually putting together a p/s system for my new car that didn't come with it, so i'm pretty far down the rabbit hole of p/s stuff, so this is very interesting to me.

i just google image'd "power steering reservoir" and found a couple that look to be of decent quality, but i'm only judging based off their aluminum finish and price :P

http://www.kse-racing.com/shopexd.asp?id=108
looks decent and has dual filters

https://www.turnone-steering.com/col...inum-reservoir
i run a turnone rebuilt ls1 p/s pump in my ls1. it was highly recommended to me, so i assume the reservoir is also of high quality. the reservoir has an internal "tee baffle", whatever that is.

any input on either one of those?

also, could you measure the capacity of that new KRC one that you have?

alsooooo, you mentioned your prototype reservoir not having a filter. i was planning on running one of these Cardone filters if i ended up going with the stock s13 reservoir, since apparently filtering your p/s is a thing (i had no idea). Cardone PNs = 20-0038F, 20-P038F, 20-0012F, 20-0058F

dibs on your prototype? :P

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Originally Posted by jedi03

for the track people why not add a cooler to the kit?

hey Poorman, wasn't codyace running a cooler on his p/s setup and still having issues with "strawberry milkshake"? right? i just read all 13 pages of it on NRR...so apparently just slapping a cooler doesn't necessarily fix that problem.

although........it seems that his issue was from debris getting stuck in the "main pressure fitting and the flow control valve"

Tempo · 03-01-2018, 01:25 AM

I ran into your kit a while back and my only concern was all the talk about AN lines leaking at the rack like mentioned above and in other threads. I'm not currently in the market for one now but it would be awesome to have it as a considerable option to upgrade.

PoorMans180SX · 03-01-2018, 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

So how much for the kit without the fancy KRC res?? I see it on your site for 450 for the kit with the KRC goodies??

I'll let you know when I get pricing finalized with the new canister

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Originally Posted by 240KA

awwwww, come on man! don't say "ONLY"!!!! what other reservoirs do you have experience with? i'm actually putting together a p/s system for my new car that didn't come with it, so i'm pretty far down the rabbit hole of p/s stuff, so this is very interesting to me.

although........it seems that his issue was from debris getting stuck in the "main pressure fitting and the flow control valve"

Meh, neither of those have very good baffling. I tried that second unit, and it loved to blow fluid out the top of it.

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Originally Posted by Tempo

I ran into your kit a while back and my only concern was all the talk about AN lines leaking at the rack like mentioned above and in other threads. I'm not currently in the market for one now but it would be awesome to have it as a considerable option to upgrade.

I use steel adapter fittings at the rack, which allows you to tighten the fittings properly and therefore they don't leak.

RalliartRsX · 03-01-2018, 07:36 AM

Poorman, sending you apm. Got a question about replacing the banjo bolt portion of the high pressure pump (I see it in the high dollar power steering kit on your site)

PoorMans180SX · 03-01-2018, 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RalliartRsX

Poorman, sending you apm. Got a question about replacing the banjo bolt portion of the high pressure pump (I see it in the high dollar power steering kit on your site)

Replied. We replace that with a KRC flow control fitting, which helps reduce the "overboosted" feeling that s-chassis power steering pumps have with AN high pressure lines.

PoorMans180SX · 03-05-2018, 07:03 AM

Old Prototype vs new prototype.

Just waiting on a cap and bung to finish this. I'm going to need a test car for this, as both of the shop s-chassis are being rebuilt.

Danscomp · 03-05-2018, 08:49 AM

What sort of baffling did you do in this vs. the KRC one? Not sure if that's part of the R&D magic..

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PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	A better power steering reservoir, my 4th attempt. In the quest to bring you high quality and affordable products, I've fabricated this baffled power steering reservoir prototype. I'll be submitting this through the full rigors of track abuse, as it's been quite successful on my daily. The kit I've come up with using the KRC reservoir is quite effective, but cost prohibitive to a lot of people. Is there anything you'd like to see in a power steering kit that you don't find on the market currently? I have personal experience with another kit and it was woefully lacking in the ability to keep fluid in the reservoir and not leak out the rack. I've solved those issues already. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

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Tempo Zilvia Addict Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 956 Trader Rating: (39) Feedback Score: 39 reviews	I ran into your kit a while back and my only concern was all the talk about AN lines leaking at the rack like mentioned above and in other threads. I'm not currently in the market for one now but it would be awesome to have it as a considerable option to upgrade. __________________ IG - allen.kerose

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PoorMans180SX Zilvia.net Advertiser Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Michigan Age: 33 Posts: 5,431 Trader Rating: (16) Rides Gallery: PoorMans180SX Feedback Score: 16 reviews	Old Prototype vs new prototype. Just waiting on a cap and bung to finish this. I'm going to need a test car for this, as both of the shop s-chassis are being rebuilt. __________________ Build: http://zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?t=643065 Friends don't let friends buy knock-offs.

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02-27-2018, 08:06 AM	#2
tuzzio Nissanaholic! Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Western Mass. Posts: 2,254 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Very interesting. I'd consider being interested in one if you also produced more of a stock sized one (I understand why yours is larger than OEM) as I have mine mounted up by the clutch master so space is important to me. Obviously, price dependent.

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240KA Zilvia Addict Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: OK Age: 37 Posts: 805 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	damn...that's one expensive reservoir. what are the benefits to using that reservoir? the two that i see are, larger capacity and filtration.

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jedi03 Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: albuquerque Posts: 1,786 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	for the track people why not add a cooler to the kit?

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RalliartRsX Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Maryland Posts: 4,753 Trader Rating: (32) Feedback Score: 32 reviews	Poorman, sending you apm. Got a question about replacing the banjo bolt portion of the high pressure pump (I see it in the high dollar power steering kit on your site)

03-05-2018, 08:49 AM	#16
Danscomp Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Canada Age: 33 Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	What sort of baffling did you do in this vs. the KRC one? Not sure if that's part of the R&D magic..