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clos84 · 01-20-2011, 10:41 PM

hey so i have a question about my sr.

i have 550 injectors, i have a z32 maf, and i have a SAFC.
im running a gt2871r turbo, and im only running safc for street tune purposes for now because im broke and cant afford powerFC.
ANYWAYS

i KNOW that when i put my injectors and maf on, that i will be running dam near twice the flow of fuel and it will flood and not start.

SO, HOW do i put the maf on, put the injectors on, set the Safc to 2in 6out , hotwire, AND STILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE IT TO THE SHOP TO GET A TUNE?
im confused on how im supposed to drive to my friends shop so he can do a street tune if the car isnt going to run due to way to much fuel?

from what i hear the car wont run because too much fuel. or will it run just like crap tell i can get it there and he can tune the safc to get it running right?

please any info/helpfull advice is appriciated.
please stay on topic thank you.

Touge Whore · 01-21-2011, 08:56 AM

If it's your buddy's shop, why can't you just do the install there? Seems like it would be easier that way...

clos84 · 01-21-2011, 04:23 PM

that was not helpfull info sir... . . if i could i would, thats irelevant and not on topic tho.

Touge Whore · 01-21-2011, 04:38 PM

No need to get your panties in a bunch...I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I was just curious as to why if it was a "friend's shop," you couldn't just do the install there and avoid extra work? But, I'll let you find help from everybody else since I'm not helpful, irrelevant, and can't focus...

usdm180sx · 01-21-2011, 04:40 PM

Put it back to stock until you can afford a Power FC. SAFC can't control fuel and timing so it's not safe to roll like that.

nismoman · 01-21-2011, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usdm180sx

Put it back to stock until you can afford a Power FC. SAFC can't control fuel and timing so it's not safe to roll like that.

yeah this^^ you'd even be better to get a enthapy tune than the SAFC

Sileighty_85 · 01-21-2011, 09:38 PM

SAFC are garbage.

Buy Power FC, Drive car to shop with stock ECU, FI, & MAFS then install parts there.
Its not hard, I did it.

clos84 · 01-21-2011, 11:49 PM

wow everyone is off topic now huh lol
if u reread the post where is says i cannot afford power fc and wont be able to for a while.
aswell posted was that this is all already purchased and going on the car, AND that its known that safc cannot do wonderfull things thats why i said im using it as an inbetween so that i can drive it without problem.
without the injectors it hasnt enough fuel but with the 550's its too much so the safc can fix that.
turns out another guy is gonna come over and do the tune at my house so problem solved.

usdm180sx · 01-22-2011, 12:06 AM

No problem is not solved and no it's not off topic. You should run stock until you can afford to buy ALL the necessary parts instead of going with a cheap temporary solution that can blow your motor. That's the right way to go but hey it's your motor.

Sileighty_85 · 01-22-2011, 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usdm180sx

No problem is not solved and no it's not off topic. You should run stock until you can afford to buy ALL the necessary parts instead of going with a cheap temporary solution that can blow your motor. That's the right way to go but hey it's your motor.

Youp. X2

If you cannot afford to build and tune a car properly you should either sell it or find away to get the correct parts.

I Love it when poor ppl try to build fast cars, then end up blowing the engine up and then selling the car or trying to find a way to get another engine.

If you aint got the money to play and wanna build a car you should try building those little model cars.

clos84 · 01-22-2011, 06:39 PM

wow you a scumbag.
i didnt know this was a ricer forum, or domestic forum full of punk ass pricks that run there mouth instead of helping out.
for ur info sense u dont know me and u still seem to have to run ur trap, i DID have the money to build and as life goes sometimes something comes up and now i gotta do what i can to protect my investment/daily driver.
TENS of THOUSANDS , stillll tune on safc and get great numbers. ME for the third time only plan to use safc as a crutch so i can keep my cars a/f where it needs to be and not lean out, blow up and lose it all.
so im not tryin to use the safc to make alotta power, jus to tune the fuel where it needs to be.
hell i of all people, which u wouldnt know cuz u dont know me , know that u gotta pay to play, i know what i need and dont need to buy and or use.
but without funds but having to fix air fuel levels to not blow it up i would say using safc to adjust is a good idea.
especially cuz i got it dirrrt cheap.
so please refrain from bein a internet tough guy/girl and talkin crap its pathetic as a human being and helps nobody.

usdm180sx · 01-22-2011, 06:55 PM

Wow, the truth hurts. Like I said, it's your motor, do what you want. We're just trying to help you do it the right way since you DID ask.

nismoman · 01-22-2011, 08:00 PM

cotbu · 01-23-2011, 12:32 AM

XD! you need to pull about 30%~low, for stock turbo and 550's and z32, so try ~15% with the gt2871r get it tuned. Then do it all over again when you get the chedddaaahh!
Don't quote me, but I've come a long long ways from the days safc's, to even criticize them anymore, I'm sure they work for honda's

Sileighty_85 · 01-23-2011, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clos84

wow you a scumbag.
i didnt know this was a ricer forum, or domestic forum full of punk ass pricks that run there mouth instead of helping out.
for ur info sense u dont know me and u still seem to have to run ur trap, i DID have the money to build and as life goes sometimes something comes up and now i gotta do what i can to protect my investment/daily driver.
TENS of THOUSANDS , stillll tune on safc and get great numbers. ME for the third time only plan to use safc as a crutch so i can keep my cars a/f where it needs to be and not lean out, blow up and lose it all.
so im not tryin to use the safc to make alotta power, jus to tune the fuel where it needs to be.
hell i of all people, which u wouldnt know cuz u dont know me , know that u gotta pay to play, i know what i need and dont need to buy and or use.
but without funds but having to fix air fuel levels to not blow it up i would say using safc to adjust is a good idea.
especially cuz i got it dirrrt cheap.
so please refrain from bein a internet tough guy/girl and talkin crap its pathetic as a human being and helps nobody.

Yeah i might be a dick but I dont care.

I wasnt just running my mouth i was giving you very good insight/advice, seeing ive been on this fourm a little bit longer than you and been a very big contributor to this site Ive read quite a bit of outcomes of kids doing half ass "builds" like yours.

If you need the car to drive you can just leave the Stock ECU, Injectors, MAFS on the car and just disconnect the W/G on the turbo to keep from building boost and grenading your engine. Im sure you dont need to race around the streets for just a DD, Unless "Street Racer" is your Job title.

Your Right I dont know you nor do I care who you are.

If your really hurting for money and need to keep your engine from blowing up, Put everything back to stock until you get the money for the CORRECT parts.

Or did you sell all your OEM parts to help pay for the 2871R?

Im not internet tough guy I am who I am, If you dont like it then leave and go cry to NICO.

You came and asked for Advice on a public forum, so you should be prepared for assholes like me to chime in to give ppl like you a hard time for being dumb and lazy.

clos84 · 01-24-2011, 03:01 AM

dum and lazy are far from me homeboy, nor am i a kid being as how im near 30.
aswell i never asked for advice about my build i asked about 1 impaticular issue i was curious about and nobody but 1 person actually gave ANY insite on it.
i have no oem parts only what i have. or if i did i wouldnt be here now would i.....
u see ur a moron that talks befor asking info in order to actually provide any REAL helpfull insite on the question asked. asshole or not fucks not given here about what u think a good build is or not.
truth doesnt hurt when you already know AND stated the situation and ya cant read posts.
if safc is so terrible and i should get powerFC or rom tune BUT i have 0 money and already have a safc that i got for under 100 and the car is mega lean, many would say go ahead and use the safc to adjust fuel ratios on low boost so the motors ok and get u by tell u get more cash.
on top of that, its already tuned now on low boost and the car runs Perfect all the way thru the fuel curve.
aswell thank you cotbu for ur helpfull information.

Sileighty_85 · 01-24-2011, 03:16 PM

So what you only bought a swapped 240 with just a 2871R on it?
How did you get around before?

If you had all your OEM parts and kept them then it wouldnt be an issue.

Im the moron? At least I can spell and and form coherent sentences.

So why dont you have the OEM injectors?

well im sure you'll be back on here after awhile asking why your engine had so much knock at 18psi and grenaded cuz the SAFC couldn't tune your ignition MAP.

Cheers

dazed · 01-24-2011, 03:58 PM

This thread is dicks.

Let him blow his motor.

The best info he could possibly get has already been given.

As already stated SAFC can't tune timing, fuel, ect parameters which are CRUCIAL.

poof.

clos84 · 02-01-2011, 08:34 PM

no actually i built every last inch myself jerk.
and the motor will not grenade on 18psi due to the fact that i wont be running anything near that fuck tard.. nowhere on here did i ever state that i was gonna run hi boost with safc.... .
matter of fact ur lack of reading caused the majority of this nonsense.. .
as i am still running low boost and now am safc tuned on low boost af numbers are perfect and i can daily my car again tell i can AFFORD a REAL tuning system.
gawd i cant stand stuk up sons a bitches like urselfs.
no i dont have the oem parts i traded or sold them. the stock turbo was shot and i got the gt28 for Half the price. the injectors and maf were part of a buisness transaction for the new ones.
anyway whats dones done and the car runs great and has no issues of any sort good day

usdm180sx · 02-01-2011, 09:28 PM

So you're saying that your motor is now tuned with an safc on low boost with the bigger turbo, mafs and injectors until you can afford a power fc because you don't have your stock parts anymore.

Hope you have a good way to keep the boost down low because any form of boost creep/spike is all it will take to blow your motor.

Catch240 · 02-01-2011, 09:30 PM

WOW

you asked for advice, and you didnt like the advice. So now everyone are dbags?

You shouldnt drive your modded car with a safc tune because it cant handle timing and fuel changes. Period.

01-20-2011, 10:41 PM	#1
clos84 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Allen tx Age: 36 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	sr20 550inj and z32maf question? hey so i have a question about my sr. i have 550 injectors, i have a z32 maf, and i have a SAFC. im running a gt2871r turbo, and im only running safc for street tune purposes for now because im broke and cant afford powerFC. ANYWAYS i KNOW that when i put my injectors and maf on, that i will be running dam near twice the flow of fuel and it will flood and not start. SO, HOW do i put the maf on, put the injectors on, set the Safc to 2in 6out , hotwire, AND STILL BE ABLE TO DRIVE IT TO THE SHOP TO GET A TUNE? im confused on how im supposed to drive to my friends shop so he can do a street tune if the car isnt going to run due to way to much fuel? from what i hear the car wont run because too much fuel. or will it run just like crap tell i can get it there and he can tune the safc to get it running right? please any info/helpfull advice is appriciated. please stay on topic thank you.

01-21-2011, 08:56 AM	#2
Touge Whore Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 949 Age: 35 Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	If it's your buddy's shop, why can't you just do the install there? Seems like it would be easier that way... __________________ I punch b*tches for gold nuggets...

01-21-2011, 04:38 PM	#4
Touge Whore Zilvia Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: 949 Age: 35 Posts: 174 Trader Rating: (4) Feedback Score: 4 reviews	No need to get your panties in a bunch...I wasn't trying to be a jerk, I was just curious as to why if it was a "friend's shop," you couldn't just do the install there and avoid extra work? But, I'll let you find help from everybody else since I'm not helpful, irrelevant, and can't focus... __________________ I punch b*tches for gold nuggets...

01-21-2011, 04:40 PM	#5
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Put it back to stock until you can afford a Power FC. SAFC can't control fuel and timing so it's not safe to roll like that. __________________ -Norm!

01-21-2011, 09:38 PM	#7
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	SAFC are garbage. Buy Power FC, Drive car to shop with stock ECU, FI, & MAFS then install parts there. Its not hard, I did it. __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

01-21-2011, 04:23 PM	#3
clos84 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Allen tx Age: 36 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	that was not helpfull info sir... . . if i could i would, thats irelevant and not on topic tho.

01-21-2011, 11:49 PM	#8
clos84 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Allen tx Age: 36 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow everyone is off topic now huh lol if u reread the post where is says i cannot afford power fc and wont be able to for a while. aswell posted was that this is all already purchased and going on the car, AND that its known that safc cannot do wonderfull things thats why i said im using it as an inbetween so that i can drive it without problem. without the injectors it hasnt enough fuel but with the 550's its too much so the safc can fix that. turns out another guy is gonna come over and do the tune at my house so problem solved.

01-22-2011, 12:06 AM	#9
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	No problem is not solved and no it's not off topic. You should run stock until you can afford to buy ALL the necessary parts instead of going with a cheap temporary solution that can blow your motor. That's the right way to go but hey it's your motor. __________________ -Norm!

01-22-2011, 06:39 PM	#11
clos84 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Allen tx Age: 36 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow you a scumbag. i didnt know this was a ricer forum, or domestic forum full of punk ass pricks that run there mouth instead of helping out. for ur info sense u dont know me and u still seem to have to run ur trap, i DID have the money to build and as life goes sometimes something comes up and now i gotta do what i can to protect my investment/daily driver. TENS of THOUSANDS , stillll tune on safc and get great numbers. ME for the third time only plan to use safc as a crutch so i can keep my cars a/f where it needs to be and not lean out, blow up and lose it all. so im not tryin to use the safc to make alotta power, jus to tune the fuel where it needs to be. hell i of all people, which u wouldnt know cuz u dont know me , know that u gotta pay to play, i know what i need and dont need to buy and or use. but without funds but having to fix air fuel levels to not blow it up i would say using safc to adjust is a good idea. especially cuz i got it dirrrt cheap. so please refrain from bein a internet tough guy/girl and talkin crap its pathetic as a human being and helps nobody.

01-22-2011, 06:55 PM	#12
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	Wow, the truth hurts. Like I said, it's your motor, do what you want. We're just trying to help you do it the right way since you DID ask. __________________ -Norm!

01-22-2011, 08:00 PM	#13
nismoman Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Bowie, MD Posts: 412 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	__________________

01-23-2011, 12:32 AM	#14
cotbu Post Whore! Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: SWFL Age: 47 Posts: 3,318 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	XD! you need to pull about 30%~low, for stock turbo and 550's and z32, so try ~15% with the gt2871r get it tuned. Then do it all over again when you get the chedddaaahh! Don't quote me, but I've come a long long ways from the days safc's, to even criticize them anymore, I'm sure they work for honda's __________________ LoverTechnologies "Half Broken Things!"

01-24-2011, 03:01 AM	#16
clos84 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Allen tx Age: 36 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	dum and lazy are far from me homeboy, nor am i a kid being as how im near 30. aswell i never asked for advice about my build i asked about 1 impaticular issue i was curious about and nobody but 1 person actually gave ANY insite on it. i have no oem parts only what i have. or if i did i wouldnt be here now would i..... u see ur a moron that talks befor asking info in order to actually provide any REAL helpfull insite on the question asked. asshole or not fucks not given here about what u think a good build is or not. truth doesnt hurt when you already know AND stated the situation and ya cant read posts. if safc is so terrible and i should get powerFC or rom tune BUT i have 0 money and already have a safc that i got for under 100 and the car is mega lean, many would say go ahead and use the safc to adjust fuel ratios on low boost so the motors ok and get u by tell u get more cash. on top of that, its already tuned now on low boost and the car runs Perfect all the way thru the fuel curve. aswell thank you cotbu for ur helpfull information.

01-24-2011, 03:16 PM	#17
Sileighty_85 Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Misawa, Japan Posts: 6,815 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	So what you only bought a swapped 240 with just a 2871R on it? How did you get around before? If you had all your OEM parts and kept them then it wouldnt be an issue. Im the moron? At least I can spell and and form coherent sentences. So why dont you have the OEM injectors? well im sure you'll be back on here after awhile asking why your engine had so much knock at 18psi and grenaded cuz the SAFC couldn't tune your ignition MAP. Cheers __________________ 後輪駆動車１番 1989 Built SR GT2871R -363whp 1998 S14 W/RB25- 250ish (For Now) 1986 SR86 - 200ish 1990 R32 GTR - 320hp Don't Buy Engines from JDM-Online http://zilvia.net/f/businesses/207457-jdm-online.html Don't Buy XS-Power or SSAC Shit

01-24-2011, 03:58 PM	#18
dazed Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: WA Posts: 1,336 Trader Rating: (36) Feedback Score: 36 reviews	This thread is dicks. Let him blow his motor. The best info he could possibly get has already been given. As already stated SAFC can't tune timing, fuel, ect parameters which are CRUCIAL. poof.

02-01-2011, 08:34 PM	#19
clos84 Leaky Injector Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Allen tx Age: 36 Posts: 58 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	no actually i built every last inch myself jerk. and the motor will not grenade on 18psi due to the fact that i wont be running anything near that fuck tard.. nowhere on here did i ever state that i was gonna run hi boost with safc.... . matter of fact ur lack of reading caused the majority of this nonsense.. . as i am still running low boost and now am safc tuned on low boost af numbers are perfect and i can daily my car again tell i can AFFORD a REAL tuning system. gawd i cant stand stuk up sons a bitches like urselfs. no i dont have the oem parts i traded or sold them. the stock turbo was shot and i got the gt28 for Half the price. the injectors and maf were part of a buisness transaction for the new ones. anyway whats dones done and the car runs great and has no issues of any sort good day

02-01-2011, 09:28 PM	#20
usdm180sx Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: 562 Posts: 4,807 Trader Rating: (5) Rides Gallery: usdm180sx Feedback Score: 5 reviews	So you're saying that your motor is now tuned with an safc on low boost with the bigger turbo, mafs and injectors until you can afford a power fc because you don't have your stock parts anymore. Hope you have a good way to keep the boost down low because any form of boost creep/spike is all it will take to blow your motor. __________________ -Norm!

02-01-2011, 09:30 PM	#21
Catch240 Zilvia Member Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Delray Beach, FL Age: 35 Posts: 186 Trader Rating: (5) Feedback Score: 5 reviews	WOW you asked for advice, and you didnt like the advice. So now everyone are dbags? You shouldnt drive your modded car with a safc tune because it cant handle timing and fuel changes. Period.

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