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240boi115 · 03-17-2013, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeVirus1

For every 1 person who wants to see progress there is 10 that want to burn it to the ground..

ok then why stop if you made this thread knowing this?? just curious...

VG30ETLover · 03-17-2013, 04:15 PM

I totally agree, plus i love the way it sounds.

VG30ETLover · 03-17-2013, 04:16 PM

I agree with the vg30et thing orange said

OrangeVirus1 · 03-17-2013, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 240boi115

ok then why stop if you made this thread knowing this?? just curious...

When I made this thread I expected a lot less bashing. I didn't expect my very first response to be bashing.

I'll update it if I feel like it.

VG30ETLover · 03-17-2013, 04:19 PM

please do update it

KendallH · 03-17-2013, 04:32 PM

Being a '13, wouldn't expect you to be aware of this, but the build section on Zilvia has not been around for too long. At one point the only builds that were on here were in the chat section, and they were mostly incredible, high-dollar builds. Zilvia at one point did not want to be cluttered up with every random user's build thread. You're getting bashed for 2 reasons, one because you came right out of the gate expecting it, and two because you're letting yourself react to the comments.

Oh but RB20s do suck.

OrangeVirus1 · 03-17-2013, 04:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KendallH

Being a '13, wouldn't expect you to be aware of this, but the build section on Zilvia has not been around for too long. At one point the only builds that were on here were in the chat section, and they were mostly incredible, high-dollar builds. Zilvia at one point did not want to be cluttered up with every random user's build thread. You're getting bashed for 2 reasons, one because you came right out of the gate expecting it, and two because you're letting yourself react to the comments.

Oh but RB20s do suck.

whatever I don't care.

jr_ss · 03-17-2013, 05:17 PM

You gonna learn T'day...

Seriously though, all joking aside, why did you buy the 20? Besides it being "cheap". What actually drew you to that decision. The decision to purchase the bastard child of the RB series.

240boi115 · 03-17-2013, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeVirus1

Now I never said the RB25 is a lesser engine, just said it's not THAT much better.. people on here compare the 25 to 20 like a damn supra engine vs honda engine..

I went this route For these reasons :
Engine cost = Free ( I paid 1200$ for it, and ended up getting the money back )
Engine can rev to 8k+ rpm
2.0 and inline 6. the engine is just cool.
RB parts aren't easier to get than SR parts, but you don't have to run through a damn maze to find them.
My goals are about mid 400's
SR20 holds up more HP. I'd say this is completely debatable. How much HP can a SR20 hold on stock bottom end? How much can an RB20? How many people have even taken an RB20 past like 400hp?
You'll probably blow the piston rings around the same power on both of them, but I bet you without a single doubt that the RB20 rods will hold more power than the SR20

read the thread dude...i asked the same thing and he cleared it up....just sayin.

OrangeVirus1 · 03-17-2013, 06:18 PM

it's balls deep

Duke89 · 03-17-2013, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeVirus1

well many reasons
1. it's really unique
2. it can rev and rev and rev
3. It should be able to hold a lot of boost without problems
4. it's short stroke and small cylinders means less prone to knock ( i dunno why I read so much on here that people say smaller cylinder = more knock when that isn't true because smaller cyl means less for the burn to travel which means less timing advance which means less knock probability )
5. I read so much hate online about this engine, when 99% of people had zero experience. ( yes one of the factors of my choice was because everyone hated it )
6. swap is easier to do
7. With the right turbo and setup, I should be able to make as much power as it can handle.
8. I firmly do not believe that RB20's can't hold more than 400whp, I'd say with a good set of pistons It could hold more power than a RB25.
9. The head is better than a SR's
10. everyone says SR is better, but power for power my RB20 will have less rod load
11. 20+psi @ 8k RPM = awesome on any engine.

I just wanted to quote this so people would read it twice. A lot of the same reasons I went rb20

OrangeVirus1 · 03-18-2013, 11:35 AM

if you want an update, Turn around and shit on yourself.

VG30ETLover · 03-18-2013, 11:36 AM

That looks awesome!!

*andrew600* · 03-18-2013, 12:12 PM

in for more updates.

s13rhdhatch · 03-18-2013, 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrangeVirus1

BTW, what are you running Mr. Badass?

Well if you would have read my for sale thread instead of just talking shit,you wouldnt have to ask that.

OrangeVirus1 · 03-18-2013, 03:48 PM

nothing happened

VG30ETLover · 03-18-2013, 03:57 PM

Could be worse..

240boi115 · 03-18-2013, 04:13 PM

damn bro nice turbo... piping on that motor is a bitch...you might have to fabricate one.. it might flow better too.

b4l · 03-18-2013, 05:40 PM

glad you are still posting

240boi115 · 03-18-2013, 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by b4l

glad you are still posting

agreed....

OrangeVirus1 · 03-18-2013, 05:45 PM

update, had to fab up an oil feed line, and plugged the coolant line to the block. Have to figure out what to do with the other line, but got the oil line installed and oil return!!

240boi115 · 03-18-2013, 05:46 PM

what are you going to do about the intake manifold issue bro?

kudii · 03-18-2013, 06:02 PM

why all this hate .............rb20det is great and more fleshier than a 25 bottom end and where im from we got one rb20 doing mid 11sec on stock internals so plz keep your hate to urself and let the build continue for ppl like me to see !!!

Dolph_KYAS13 · 03-18-2013, 07:09 PM

glad you are keeping up with the build. You might want to invest some cash into a forward facing manifold to eliminate the 39042930843290 ft of piping.

I was in the same debate with my skyline. (Stay 20 or go 25). I chose 20 because, like you, a great deal came along (700 with a forward facing manifold.) a 300-350 hp rb20 is easily done and is more than enough power for a 240.

Keep at it.

-Jordie

OrangeVirus1 · 03-18-2013, 07:35 PM

I got it done, and torched it

OrangeVirus1 · 03-22-2013, 06:04 PM

Alright so decided i'm gonna keep it and finish it up.

Just purchased a Rb20 WSP s13 wiring harness. No more damn wiring issues to play with. this thing is gonna be legit.

240boi115 · 03-22-2013, 06:35 PM

nice!!! i like what you did with the piping too bro.

OrangeVirus1 · 03-22-2013, 06:40 PM

yeah I decided nobody is going to get to drive this thing before me.. plus the only offers I got where some Crappily turbo'd hondas, and 3k$ "cash" like seriously what a bunch of fucks.

Rustys14 · 03-22-2013, 07:03 PM

I think there is a lot of trolling/hating in this thread because the OP made a bunch of noobish threads and ruffled some feathers in the chat section when he first joined the site. Zilvia is not really a forum that is known to forgive and forget lol.

On topic, the actual build isn't too bad and he is making some decent progress. I for one don't mind the engine choice. I'm glad I don't have a rb20 anymore but I will say that mine was damn near bulletproof (other then a few ignition problems) and served me well when I was learning to drift, plus it sounded amazing lol. OP look into upgrading the coil packs at some point to avoid future issues. Also I recommend removing the coil pack cover if you plan on running the car hard since it traps heat and negatively affects the life of them. Just some tips based on my experience with the motor.

You will love the WS harness btw. Makes life so much easier and its nice to know that everything is new (and grounded better). I use one for every Nissan swap that I do even if it is just a simple SR swap.

OrangeVirus1 · 03-22-2013, 07:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rustys14

I think there is a lot of trolling/hating in this thread because the OP made a bunch of noobish threads and ruffled some feathers in the chat section when he first joined the site. Zilvia is not really a forum that is known to forgive and forget lol.

On topic, the actual build isn't too bad and he is making some decent progress. I for one don't mind the engine choice. I'm glad I don't have a rb20 anymore but I will say that mine was damn near bulletproof (other then a few ignition problems) and served me well when I was learning to drift, plus it sounded amazing lol. OP look into upgrading the coil packs at some point to avoid future issues. Also I recommend removing the coil pack cover if you plan on running the car hard since it traps heat and negatively affects the life of them. Just some tips based on my experience with the motor.

You will love the WS harness btw. Makes life so much easier and its nice to know that everything is new (and grounded better). I use one for every Nissan swap that I do even if it is just a simple SR swap.

Yeah I got tired of trying to do the wiring myself, my Relay wiring was all jacked up, my 02 sensor and maf wiring was completely hacked off.. I said screw it and dropped the 400$ on a legit harness.

I did make a few noob threads, I was a total nissan noob. but I have learned very quickly.. to think I bought this car mid january and knew absolutely nothing about nissans, and I can already swap timing belts on this bish in like 20 minutes.

My coils are all brand new Q45 coils. no old cracked up junk

I would remove the coil cover but it's just so god damn ugly missing it

03-17-2013, 04:32 PM	#66
KendallH Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Clearwater, FL Level: Master Troll Age: 29 Posts: 871 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	Being a '13, wouldn't expect you to be aware of this, but the build section on Zilvia has not been around for too long. At one point the only builds that were on here were in the chat section, and they were mostly incredible, high-dollar builds. Zilvia at one point did not want to be cluttered up with every random user's build thread. You're getting bashed for 2 reasons, one because you came right out of the gate expecting it, and two because you're letting yourself react to the comments. Oh but RB20s do suck. __________________

03-17-2013, 05:17 PM	#68
jr_ss Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Pa Posts: 6,056 Trader Rating: (34) Feedback Score: 34 reviews	You gonna learn T'day... Seriously though, all joking aside, why did you buy the 20? Besides it being "cheap". What actually drew you to that decision. The decision to purchase the bastard child of the RB series. __________________ My SR20VET

03-17-2013, 06:18 PM	#70
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	it's balls deep Last edited by OrangeVirus1; 05-13-2013 at 02:27 PM..

03-18-2013, 11:35 AM	#72
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	if you want an update, Turn around and shit on yourself. Last edited by OrangeVirus1; 05-13-2013 at 02:28 PM..

03-18-2013, 03:48 PM	#76
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	nothing happened Last edited by OrangeVirus1; 05-13-2013 at 02:28 PM..

03-17-2013, 04:15 PM	#62
VG30ETLover Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Wisconsin Age: 27 Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I totally agree, plus i love the way it sounds.

03-17-2013, 04:16 PM	#63
VG30ETLover Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Wisconsin Age: 27 Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I agree with the vg30et thing orange said

03-17-2013, 04:19 PM	#65
VG30ETLover Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Wisconsin Age: 27 Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	please do update it

03-18-2013, 11:36 AM	#73
VG30ETLover Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Wisconsin Age: 27 Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	That looks awesome!!

03-18-2013, 12:12 PM	#74
andrew600 ill tongue punch her fart box Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: bethalto, il Age: 31 Posts: 1,221 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	in for more updates.

03-18-2013, 03:57 PM	#77
VG30ETLover Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Wisconsin Age: 27 Posts: 17 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Could be worse..

03-18-2013, 04:13 PM	#78
240boi115 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Torrance Age: 28 Posts: 1,486 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	damn bro nice turbo... piping on that motor is a bitch...you might have to fabricate one.. it might flow better too.

03-18-2013, 05:40 PM	#79
b4l Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: el paso texas Age: 34 Posts: 475 Trader Rating: (8) Feedback Score: 8 reviews	glad you are still posting

03-18-2013, 05:45 PM	#81
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	update, had to fab up an oil feed line, and plugged the coolant line to the block. Have to figure out what to do with the other line, but got the oil line installed and oil return!!

03-18-2013, 05:46 PM	#82
240boi115 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Torrance Age: 28 Posts: 1,486 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	what are you going to do about the intake manifold issue bro?

03-18-2013, 06:02 PM	#83
kudii Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: trinidad and tobago Posts: 9 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	why all this hate .............rb20det is great and more fleshier than a 25 bottom end and where im from we got one rb20 doing mid 11sec on stock internals so plz keep your hate to urself and let the build continue for ppl like me to see !!!

03-18-2013, 07:09 PM	#84
Dolph_KYAS13 Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Canada Age: 34 Posts: 686 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	glad you are keeping up with the build. You might want to invest some cash into a forward facing manifold to eliminate the 39042930843290 ft of piping. I was in the same debate with my skyline. (Stay 20 or go 25). I chose 20 because, like you, a great deal came along (700 with a forward facing manifold.) a 300-350 hp rb20 is easily done and is more than enough power for a 240. Keep at it. -Jordie __________________ -Jordie Lewis '93 Skyline Type M

03-18-2013, 07:35 PM	#85
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I got it done, and torched it Last edited by OrangeVirus1; 05-13-2013 at 02:28 PM..

03-22-2013, 06:04 PM	#86
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Alright so decided i'm gonna keep it and finish it up. Just purchased a Rb20 WSP s13 wiring harness. No more damn wiring issues to play with. this thing is gonna be legit.

03-22-2013, 06:35 PM	#87
240boi115 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Torrance Age: 28 Posts: 1,486 Trader Rating: (6) Feedback Score: 6 reviews	nice!!! i like what you did with the piping too bro.

03-22-2013, 06:40 PM	#88
OrangeVirus1 BANNED Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: PyongYang DPRK-N. Korea, Province 2 Posts: 1,236 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	yeah I decided nobody is going to get to drive this thing before me.. plus the only offers I got where some Crappily turbo'd hondas, and 3k$ "cash" like seriously what a bunch of fucks.

03-22-2013, 07:03 PM	#89
Rustys14 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Virginia Age: 30 Posts: 591 Trader Rating: (9) Feedback Score: 9 reviews	I think there is a lot of trolling/hating in this thread because the OP made a bunch of noobish threads and ruffled some feathers in the chat section when he first joined the site. Zilvia is not really a forum that is known to forgive and forget lol. On topic, the actual build isn't too bad and he is making some decent progress. I for one don't mind the engine choice. I'm glad I don't have a rb20 anymore but I will say that mine was damn near bulletproof (other then a few ignition problems) and served me well when I was learning to drift, plus it sounded amazing lol. OP look into upgrading the coil packs at some point to avoid future issues. Also I recommend removing the coil pack cover if you plan on running the car hard since it traps heat and negatively affects the life of them. Just some tips based on my experience with the motor. You will love the WS harness btw. Makes life so much easier and its nice to know that everything is new (and grounded better). I use one for every Nissan swap that I do even if it is just a simple SR swap.

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