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HyperTek · 06-26-2009, 09:53 AM

home premuim upgrade is like $49, ultimate is $99. compared to what their full retail is gonna be, its on microsofts windows 7 site. Better deal for you guys who are still XP and want to consider skipping vista .

DreamN · 06-26-2009, 09:56 AM

$100 (ultimate) and I get a brand spanking new OS? not bad at all. match that with the netbook busted posted and I'm set.

ixfxi · 06-26-2009, 11:03 AM

you mean i can upgrade from 2003 server which i paid 0 dollars and .00 cents, and upgrade to an operating system that comes with a bunch of useless integrated software?

awesome... i'll highly consider upgrading, just like i considered upgrading to vista. too bad i only considered it for less than 11 seconds.

*exitspeed* · 06-26-2009, 11:09 AM

If my laptop could run it I would upgrade.

HyperTek · 06-26-2009, 11:10 AM

aww man we all know your still on 2003. dont think they have a 64bit version of that OS so your really limited.

ixfxi · 06-26-2009, 11:17 AM

haha what do i need a 64 bit OS for?

this reminds me of the video game bit wars, where the more bits meant the better graphics... but its all a bunch of useless bullshit.

BustedS13 · 06-26-2009, 11:36 AM

64 bit has its advantages, but flash still fucking chokes on it. No thanks.
And I thought ultimate wasn't for presale yet? Either way it's a good deal. Too bd I haven't had a legit copy of windows since 98SE.

Remember when ME came out and it sucked ass, then 2000 rolled out and it was awesome and everybody loved it? This is the same thing. The xp holdouts will be the 9x holdouts back then.

BOW TO YOUR NEW LORD

*exitspeed* · 06-26-2009, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ixfxi

haha what do i need a 64 bit OS for?

this reminds me of the video game bit wars, where the more bits meant the better graphics... but its all a bunch of useless bullshit.

Sooo, Playstation having 120bits over the NES's 8bits has nothing to do with it having better graphics?

LeonTheProfessional · 06-26-2009, 12:16 PM

whats better about 7 than vista heard its the same just with less crap in it....

SochBAT · 06-26-2009, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by exitspeed

Sooo, Playstation having 120bits over the NES's 8bits has nothing to do with it having better graphics?

NES 8bit was way more enjoyable and memorable for everyone.

PS 120bit has a sea of faceless mundane games that no one remembers.

NES > PS.

SimpleS14 · 06-26-2009, 12:45 PM

HyperTek - It's pointless to make such a thread on this forum -_- already know there will be haters.

Also the price is for the upgrade, not full retail. So you need an existing copy of Vista or XP to benefit from this deal.

I rather get the retail version so I can do a clean install on a formatted hard drive. The only problem is the price for the retail copy is ridiculous. *_* I'm going to stick with Vista for now since I got it for free.

2Slow40 · 06-26-2009, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Soooshi

NES 8bit was way more enjoyable and memorable for everyone.

PS 120bit has a sea of faceless mundane games that no one remembers.

NES > PS.

I like NES better then PS. But he's talking about the graphics, not how fun the games are.

You can use more memory with a 64bit OS. That's the only advantage I've heard of. But I'm pretty sure that's only a perk for gaming.

0100 · 06-26-2009, 01:07 PM

Good post HyperTek!

I posted this in the deal thread at the top.

http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/2...ml#post2882491

This really is a good deal guys and I suggest you guys jump on it. I got 4 for all my computers. If you are not running W7 beta try it, it really is awesome.

0100 · 06-26-2009, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

I rather get the retail version so I can do a clean install on a formatted hard drive. The only problem is the price for the retail copy is ridiculous. *_* I'm going to stick with Vista for now since I got it for free.

You can do I clean install with this. I don't have time to find the link but google it.

Not free but how's $39.99... http://microcenter.com/storefronts/m.../preorder.html

Cause I am such a nice guy.

How to do a clean install.

http://community.winsupersite.com/bl...-upgrades.aspx

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l...74(WS.10).aspx

ixfxi · 06-26-2009, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Soooshi

NES 8bit was way more enjoyable and memorable for everyone. PS 120bit has a sea of faceless mundane games that no one remembers.
NES > PS.

Amen brotha. I'm not here to say that older shit is/was better than newer systems, because there have been some great creations over the years. But generally speaking, too many people focus on technicalities than they do on whether or not something sucks.

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Originally Posted by SimpleS14

Also the price is for the upgrade, not full retail. So you need an existing copy of Vista or XP to benefit from this deal. I rather get the retail version so I can do a clean install on a formatted hard drive. The only problem is the price for the retail copy is ridiculous. *_* I'm going to stick with Vista for now since I got it for free.

You dont need to install one and then upgrade to the other. Typically, you can go do a clean install and it will simply do a check to see if you have the older version. Pop in the CD, windows checks your older version and you're good to go. Its always been this way, unless it recently changed. I wouldnt know since I havent had an "upgrade" version of software in ages.

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Originally Posted by 2Slow40

I like NES better then PS. But he's talking about the graphics, not how fun the games are. You can use more memory with a 64bit OS. That's the only advantage I've heard of. But I'm pretty sure that's only a perk for gaming.

You can use more memory because these higher-bit OS'es typically require more memory. From the little I've fucked with Vista, the only thing I've noticed is that it takes a lot more memory to process bullshit animations and bloated coding, which older (well built) pc's can do with a fraction of the hardware using old software.

I am not saying that the newer software has no potential. I am just saying that a lot of software (office suite, adobe suite, etc) do absolutely nothing really.. REALLY unique or special that older software doesnt.

I run Adobe CS2 and Office 2003, both work fine and have been stripped down from being updated/verified/etc.

Here is a fun video for all you kids who need a history lesson, the angry video game nerd says shit best:
ScrewAttack Video Game, Angry Video Game Nerd: Atari Jaguar Part I | Game Trailers & Videos | GameTrailers.com

*exitspeed* · 06-26-2009, 02:23 PM

I wasn't talking about whether or not the games were better. Mike's comment was saying more bits doesn't equal better graphics. Which is false. It's not THE only factor but More bits DOES equal better graphics.

Any yes, I agree NES games were better then PS games.

SimpleS14 · 06-26-2009, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

You dont need to install one and then upgrade to the other. Typically, you can go do a clean install and it will simply do a check to see if you have the older version. Pop in the CD, windows checks your older version and you're good to go. Its always been this way, unless it recently changed. I wouldnt know since I havent had an "upgrade" version of software in ages.

I know older versions work like that, and I guess it's safe to assume its the same case this time around. The only thing is, I can't go buy assumptions all the time. =/

tgd89 · 06-26-2009, 02:56 PM

The difference between 64bit and 32bit is the amount of memory that the system can address, which limited to 4 gigs for 32 bit. If you're not into gaming and could really care less about how your operating system looks, then xp is probably fine, however games today use a lot of memory, and 4 gigs will probably not be enough in the near future. Directx 11 is coming out with the windows seven launch, which is a pretty big improvent on dx10.

On why windows vista and seven use a large amount of memory (if a gig is really 'large'), is due to the superfetch, with an article on how it works here: Understand how SuperFetch uses RAM to enhance system performance | Microsoft Windows | TechRepublic.com

SochBAT · 06-26-2009, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exitspeed

I wasn't talking about whether or not the games were better. Mike's comment was saying more bits doesn't equal better graphics. Which is false. It's not THE only factor but More bits DOES equal better graphics.

Any yes, I agree NES games were better then PS games.

I know, I just wanted to inject some videogames into this.

I'm running old legacy hardware, on XP, which by todays standard, is a dated OS.

Everything runs peachy, boots up fast, not fancy or flashy. Reliable as shit.

It cost me 200bucks to build 5 years ago. LOL.

2Slow40 · 06-26-2009, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

You can use more memory because these higher-bit OS'es typically require more memory. From the little I've fucked with Vista, the only thing I've noticed is that it takes a lot more memory to process bullshit animations and bloated coding, which older (well built) pc's can do with a fraction of the hardware using old software.

What about 64bit WindowsXP?

I have four gigs in my computer right now, but I have XP32bit. I was thinking about just getting XP64bit so I can get more out of my memory without all the bullshit Vista programs.

SochBAT · 06-26-2009, 06:54 PM

Do it. runs the same, lifts ram cap.

aNskY · 06-26-2009, 07:22 PM

will it run aem / fc datalogit? (vista cant)

HyperTek · 06-26-2009, 08:32 PM

vista cant? i dont see why people cant run things in xp compatability.. people too lazy to right click run in compatibility works like 99% of the time lol

FrankDukes · 06-26-2009, 08:35 PM

how much for a cracked version? =)

HyperTek · 06-26-2009, 08:40 PM

^whatever not having updates and fixes is worth to you lol

I got vista ultimate free btw from participating in one of those microsoft deals so im still up in teh air on this, but figured this would be good for those who never bought vista etc.

hopeless.s13 · 06-26-2009, 09:00 PM

cool stuff. i pretty much ignored the nes v ps more or less bits idiocy... that was kinda ignorant to be brought up. (dont take it personally, it just has nothing to do with the thread)

in any case, i have been running W7 for probably 6 months now, and its pretty sick, im not gonna lie... i havent had a single problem. not that i really ever had problems with any other OSs but im not even running an anti-virus... they added some cool stuff like pinning locations and programs to the taskbar (sort of like the apple dock, but different because you can also pin common and recent files to the pinned icons)
and some other stuff... desktop wallpapers that change whenever you want it to... desktop videos... haha. i like it. definitely a HUGE improvement over vista... to hell with xp IMO

HyperTek · 06-26-2009, 09:49 PM

^theres a prgram that will remove the windows 7 beta watermark at the bottom right

ixfxi · 06-26-2009, 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FrankDukes

how much for a cracked version? =)

now you're talking my language

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

^whatever not having updates and fixes is worth to you lol

you realize that updates (in most cases) are quite meaningless. ive ran software that hasnt been updated in ages (except for my browser and antivirus).. everything else is useless.

Quote:

Originally Posted by hopeless.s13

cool stuff. i pretty much ignored the nes v ps more or less bits idiocy... that was kinda ignorant to be brought up. (dont take it personally, it just has nothing to do with the thread)

in any case, i have been running W7 for probably 6 months now, and its pretty sick, im not gonna lie... i havent had a single problem. not that i really ever had problems with any other OSs but im not even running an anti-virus...

wow, you actually bought a zune and have a happy emo desktop? youre the prime example of a modern man.

BustedS13 · 06-26-2009, 11:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HyperTek

vista cant? i dont see why people cant run things in xp compatability.. people too lazy to right click run in compatibility works like 99% of the time lol

there are things that Vista cannot run. period. this is a fact. compatibility mode doesn't fix everything.
also Vista sucks fat dick, and nothing can fix that

except upgrading to 7. which is the new hotness

ryceboy_124 · 06-26-2009, 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ixfxi

now you're talking my language

you realize that updates (in most cases) are quite meaningless. ive ran software that hasnt been updated in ages (except for my browser and antivirus).. everything else is useless.

So updates are useless? Wow...just because you have ran software or operating systems without updating doesnt mean the updates are useless. In many cases, updates or patches are applied/created for security risks/bugs that are found after the software or OS was released...but I guess thats useless. People on the internet crack me up sometimes...lol!

06-26-2009, 09:53 AM	#1
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	pre-order windows 7 starting today for half off home premuim upgrade is like $49, ultimate is $99. compared to what their full retail is gonna be, its on microsofts windows 7 site. Better deal for you guys who are still XP and want to consider skipping vista . __________________ Keep it Classy

06-26-2009, 09:56 AM	#2
DreamN Post Whore! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: SoCal - 818 Age: 36 Posts: 10,691 Trader Rating: (54) Rides Gallery: DreamN Feedback Score: 54 reviews	$100 (ultimate) and I get a brand spanking new OS? not bad at all. match that with the netbook busted posted and I'm set. __________________ - Jimmy Wanted: TBD For Sale: TBD

06-26-2009, 11:09 AM	#4
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	If my laptop could run it I would upgrade. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

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HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	aww man we all know your still on 2003. dont think they have a 64bit version of that OS so your really limited. __________________ Keep it Classy

06-26-2009, 11:36 AM	#7
BustedS13 Post Whore! Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Phoenix AZ Age: 36 Posts: 10,287 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	64 bit has its advantages, but flash still fucking chokes on it. No thanks. And I thought ultimate wasn't for presale yet? Either way it's a good deal. Too bd I haven't had a legit copy of windows since 98SE. Remember when ME came out and it sucked ass, then 2000 rolled out and it was awesome and everybody loved it? This is the same thing. The xp holdouts will be the 9x holdouts back then. BOW TO YOUR NEW LORD __________________

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ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 79 Posts: 5,923 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	you mean i can upgrade from 2003 server which i paid 0 dollars and .00 cents, and upgrade to an operating system that comes with a bunch of useless integrated software? awesome... i'll highly consider upgrading, just like i considered upgrading to vista. too bad i only considered it for less than 11 seconds.

06-26-2009, 11:17 AM	#6
ixfxi Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: bangin on my chest Account: BANNED #fucksupreme Age: 79 Posts: 5,923 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	haha what do i need a 64 bit OS for? this reminds me of the video game bit wars, where the more bits meant the better graphics... but its all a bunch of useless bullshit.

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LeonTheProfessional BANNED Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: socal Age: 34 Posts: 11 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	whats better about 7 than vista heard its the same just with less crap in it....

06-26-2009, 12:45 PM	#11
SimpleS14 Post Whore! Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Philly Age: 38 Posts: 9,185 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: SimpleS14 Feedback Score: 0 reviews	HyperTek - It's pointless to make such a thread on this forum -_- already know there will be haters. Also the price is for the upgrade, not full retail. So you need an existing copy of Vista or XP to benefit from this deal. I rather get the retail version so I can do a clean install on a formatted hard drive. The only problem is the price for the retail copy is ridiculous. _ I'm going to stick with Vista for now since I got it for free. __________________ *Goals are dreams with a deadline.* L.H.O.O.Q.

06-26-2009, 01:07 PM	#13
0100 Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: New England Posts: 1,581 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	Good post HyperTek! I posted this in the deal thread at the top. http://zilvia.net/f/off-topic-chat/2...ml#post2882491 This really is a good deal guys and I suggest you guys jump on it. I got 4 for all my computers. If you are not running W7 beta try it, it really is awesome. __________________ TougeHero.com l SilviaV8forums.com

06-26-2009, 02:23 PM	#16
exitspeed aWingThing.com Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Milwaukee, WI Age: 41 Posts: 20,898 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	I wasn't talking about whether or not the games were better. Mike's comment was saying more bits doesn't equal better graphics. Which is false. It's not THE only factor but More bits DOES equal better graphics. Any yes, I agree NES games were better then PS games. __________________ What I do for a living...www.mhrussell.com

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tgd89 Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: abq nm Posts: 123 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	The difference between 64bit and 32bit is the amount of memory that the system can address, which limited to 4 gigs for 32 bit. If you're not into gaming and could really care less about how your operating system looks, then xp is probably fine, however games today use a lot of memory, and 4 gigs will probably not be enough in the near future. Directx 11 is coming out with the windows seven launch, which is a pretty big improvent on dx10. On why windows vista and seven use a large amount of memory (if a gig is really 'large'), is due to the superfetch, with an article on how it works here: Understand how SuperFetch uses RAM to enhance system performance \| Microsoft Windows \| TechRepublic.com

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SochBAT Post Whore! Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Abilene, TX Age: 35 Posts: 6,428 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: SochBAT Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Do it. runs the same, lifts ram cap.

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aNskY Nissanaholic! Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: NY Age: 37 Posts: 1,604 Trader Rating: (10) Feedback Score: 10 reviews	will it run aem / fc datalogit? (vista cant)

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HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	vista cant? i dont see why people cant run things in xp compatability.. people too lazy to right click run in compatibility works like 99% of the time lol __________________ Keep it Classy

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FrankDukes BANNED Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: 818 & 747 area. Posts: 363 Trader Rating: (1) Feedback Score: 1 reviews	how much for a cracked version? =)

06-26-2009, 08:40 PM	#25
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^whatever not having updates and fixes is worth to you lol I got vista ultimate free btw from participating in one of those microsoft deals so im still up in teh air on this, but figured this would be good for those who never bought vista etc. __________________ Keep it Classy

06-26-2009, 09:00 PM	#26
hopeless.s13 Zilvia Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: SAN DIEGO! Age: 32 Posts: 158 Trader Rating: (12) Feedback Score: 12 reviews	cool stuff. i pretty much ignored the nes v ps more or less bits idiocy... that was kinda ignorant to be brought up. (dont take it personally, it just has nothing to do with the thread) in any case, i have been running W7 for probably 6 months now, and its pretty sick, im not gonna lie... i havent had a single problem. not that i really ever had problems with any other OSs but im not even running an anti-virus... they added some cool stuff like pinning locations and programs to the taskbar (sort of like the apple dock, but different because you can also pin common and recent files to the pinned icons) and some other stuff... desktop wallpapers that change whenever you want it to... desktop videos... haha. i like it. definitely a HUGE improvement over vista... to hell with xp IMO

06-26-2009, 09:49 PM	#27
HyperTek Post Whore! Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Cali Posts: 13,222 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	^theres a prgram that will remove the windows 7 beta watermark at the bottom right __________________ Keep it Classy

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