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Old 06-16-2012, 04:06 PM   #1
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Can this be fixed? Body peeps chime in

Ok so long story short, cousin backed into my car, can't find a damn OEM Silvia bumper would this be able to get fixed?

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The top of the bumper is all cracked is this worth fixing I have someone that is painting my car and stuff not worried how much, he's really cheap, just need some body shop guru's to let me know if it's fixable
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:17 PM   #2
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its fixable, just bug him to fix it asap.
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Old 06-16-2012, 04:18 PM   #3
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plastic weld it or find one on ebay they should be around the same price to do either.
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:01 PM   #5
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Thanks guys, he's got the stuff to do it, I got some $1k from insurance and I'm getting another $1,400 from another jerk that backed into my quarter panel so the body man is just repainting the whole car and fixing the random shit so I'm trying to spend the least for now
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Old 06-16-2012, 05:54 PM   #6
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its fixable almost anything is
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That thing looks toast.....I try to find another. Have u tried to sand plastic weld? I have it sucks Plus after a while it likes to crack again
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Old 06-16-2012, 06:43 PM   #8
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I know bondo makes this bumper repair stuff that works awesome, I used it to fix my piggy lip 5 years ago, I've hit the lip on parking logs speed bumps and driveways and it hasn't broken, it's sandable and flexible, I was thinking I can use that, the top part of the bumper where it's yellow, I used some of that on the under side 5 years ago (had a little left after fixing my lip) and that didn't break when my cousin backed into the car so I may go with that
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Two part epoxy adhesive bumper repair... Easy fix in fact I have a how to write up in the tech section.
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smh so many terrible recommendations. fix it right google it
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smh so many terrible recommendations. fix it right google it
so what do u suggest since u know that everybody is wrong no offense. ps i do this for a living.
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Its deff fixable. But the question is do you want to spend the cash at the body shop to fix it? If its a good shop they will prob use some type of plastic weld along with a mesh patch kit on the back of the bumper, sand it, use body filler to clean the front and then paint it. Only issue is, there is a high chance that the cracks will come through the paint over time due to weather. Personally I rather buy another bumper. Heck with all that cash your getting ($2400) plus what you can sell your car for I'd personally upgrade to another cleaner s13 or even a s14 instead of trying to repair it.
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oem s13 bumpers are made of urethane.

You cannot plastic weld urethane- it will burn.

Repair them, using urethane adhesive glue. Urethane glue sticks VERY well to scuffed/sanded urethane plastic and wont pull apart.

Using "bondo" to hold the crack together has no strength.

I would remove the bumper, use a dremel or a really rough grit sand paper to rough up the back sides of the cracked areas- then use a hot glue gun to hold the cracks in the right spot from the front side (yes, hot glue the whole crack so it holds together).

Then use the urethane glue on the crack (flip the bumper over so that you are gluing the crack flat on the floor, not from underneath, which would cause the glue to drip etc. Then, after the glue is fully cured, use needle nose pliers to pull the hot glue off the front side. Bevel the front side using a dremel, making a groove in the original plastic. Then buy a really small drill bit- 1-2mm drill bit and drill holes in that beveled area though out the whole crack. Buy some hobby wire and stitch the crack up. Then use fiberglass filler (bondo hair, or short strand bondo hair filler) to fill over the beveled area where the stitched hobby wire is. Then blocksand smooth and prime .
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smh so many terrible recommendations. fix it right google it
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so what do u suggest since u know that everybody is wrong no offense. ps i do this for a living.
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oem s13 bumpers are made of urethane.
You cannot plastic weld urethane- it will burn.
Repair them, using urethane adhesive glue.

you are fucking WRONG. blueshark, allow me. what do i suggest you do? i suggest you take this to a professional bumper repair/refinishing shop that has the plastic welding tools and experience in how to do the repair properly.

since you think urethane cannot be plastic welded, i suggest looking up URETHANE SUPPLY channel on youtube. they sell the supplies and show the amount of work these jobs take, using plastic welder in addition to other things.

thats what i suggest you do

then i suggest you paint your car so it doesnt look like a multi-colored clown car
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Old 06-17-2012, 12:19 PM   #16
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LOL THANKS^ yeah it looks like a clown car now, to the person who said sell my car and upgrade to S14, no, my car is clean as fuck, it's a Cali car with no rust, perfect OEM gold paint, like I said the only thing I have to get it's the paint for my car my body man has the rest, he owns his own body shop and has been doing it all his life so I know he's competent, I just wanted to see if the bumper is worth keeping

Oh and "bondo" is a brand, look up their bumper repair kit and read my posts, it dries hard and flexible, that's the only part in the bumper that didn't break when my cousin backed into the car, it's the yellow sanded part on the bumper in front of the passenger head lamp, it still has the crack on top because I didn't fill that part just the under side and it didn't separate

The reason I want to see if it's worth fixing because I've been looking forever for a damn bumper and can't find one at a decent price and the ones on eBay are coming from Taiwan and too fucking expensive
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That's why I'm posting this, the car is going for paint
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you are fucking WRONG. blueshark, allow me. what do i suggest you do? i suggest you take this to a professional bumper repair/refinishing shop that has the plastic welding tools and experience in how to do the repair properly.

since you think urethane cannot be plastic welded, i suggest looking up URETHANE SUPPLY channel on youtube. they sell the supplies and show the amount of work these jobs take, using plastic welder in addition to other things.

thats what i suggest you do
I'm not "fucking" wrong, Urethane Supply sells the plastic welding rod for urethane which creates more of a mechanical bond. Urethane Supply is no magical answer- you can do the same thing with urethane adhesive (cold bond vs hot bond). Don't believe me? I know you don't. Take a soldering iron and try and heat up the plastic- you will see it will burn. When they weld urethane, they are creating more of a mechanical bond with their welding rod. You really can only "plastic weld" (meaning, using the existing plastic to re-heat and re-bond) hard plastic.

Mishkin_707: You can repair this yourself if you have the patience, it isn't that hard. Buy some tubes of this urethane bond from Selleys: it works very well:

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yes you can weld plastic/polypropylene/polyurethane.. research it...
on a side note.. and an answer to the OP.. Get a repair kit, or take it to a shop. bondo is no good for structural.. but epoxy.. well.. epoxy is awesome. sand prime and paint.. There are write ups on the subject of bumper repair if I remember correctly. (maybe it's just general body repair??)
Whatever tho.. if you have problems finding a shop that will do it, then just order a new bumper..
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yes you can weld plastic/polypropylene/polyurethane.. research it...
on a side note.. and an answer to the OP.. Get a repair kit, or take it to a shop. bondo is no good for structural.. but epoxy.. well.. epoxy is awesome. sand prime and paint.. There are write ups on the subject of bumper repair if I remember correctly. (maybe it's just general body repair??)
Whatever tho.. if you have problems finding a shop that will do it, then just order a new bumper..
rather than talk out of your ass, tell me which adhesive you suggest for.... polypropylene (as an example)

i can guarantee you the 3m (8005) product you're going to refer to doesnt work to well, and thats from my own personal experience. but feel free to post up suggestions, doc
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rather than talk out of your ass, tell me which adhesive you suggest for.... polypropylene (as an example)

i can guarantee you the 3m (8005) product you're going to refer to doesnt work to well, and thats from my own personal experience. but feel free to post up suggestions, doc
http://www.lord.com/products-and-sol...roduct.xml/302
Here you go, i use it all the time with no issues. Fusor products are much better than 3m
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LORD Corporation - Fusor® 114/114LG Plastic Finishing Adhesive (Fast)
Here you go, i use it all the time with no issues. Fusor products are much better than 3m
ever used this? seems like it would be more fitting for structural damage.
LORD Corporation - Fusor® 142/143 Extreme Bumper Repair Adhesive (Super Fast)
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ever used this? seems like it would be more fitting for structural damage.
LORD Corporation - Fusor® 142/143 Extreme Bumper Repair Adhesive (Super Fast)
All the time, that is what I mostly use to repair plastic or do custom plastic molding projects. That bumper can be repaired with epoxy and mesh, I have taken three busted bumpers and made one out of them without any fitment problems.
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I'm gonna have to order some of that.. need to do a little bumper repair myself.
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That fusor stuff sounds pretty awesome, may just go with that
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