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zspturbo · 05-23-2003, 08:23 AM

My teacher just sprung an assignment on us, and we have an hour and a half to write 2 seperate paragraphs about this book.... problem is, I didnt read the book because, as anyone who HAS read it will agree... it is CRAP!!!
it is "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead" by tom stoppard.
its a stupid exestentialist waste of ink, and I refused to read it.

anyways, the questions are:

Who is the stronger character, R or G? be sure to define what you feel makes one character stronger than the other

Since the play contains elements of both the comic and tragic traditions, what appears to be Stoppards view on man and the nature of man? be sure to support your conclusions with crap and stuff.

if you have read this play or know a site that can help me, PLEASE DO!!!

btw, I just watched the movie, which is supposedly very accurate, and I still am screwed with writing this.

Dousan_PG · 05-23-2003, 08:41 AM

rent the movie again
tim roth and gary oldman iirc
two awesome actors.
book is good. read it. otherwise google for help on it. im sure there are a many sites about it.

zspturbo · 05-23-2003, 09:04 AM

thats the movie I saw.

but dude, these paragraphs are DUE in an hour. its a timed writing.

zspturbo · 05-23-2003, 09:12 AM

someone tell me what you think:

Topic 1:

Arguments could be made either way depending on a persons beliefs, but I believe that Ros is a stronger person, due to the fact that he is able to accept what is reality for them. Throughout the entire play, Guil continuously seeks out a reason why everything is happening, and he seems to voice every thought that comes into his head on the topic. Ros, on the other hand, takes the "sleeper" approach, and seems seem dumb, while he is actually smart. This is immediately evident when the play begins, as Guil attempts to find reason in the behavior of the coin, voicing his thoughts, and seemingly being the "intelligent" one of the pair. Meanwhile Ros simply collects coins, because he has already figured out on his own, that the coin is going to be heads every time. Later in the story, at the beginning of the second act, Ros and Guil debate over the discussion they just had with Hamlet, and the scoring of it:

Ros: He murdered us.
Guil: He might have had the edge.
Ros: Twenty-Seven--Three, and you think he might have had the edge?! He murdered us.
(II, p. 56-57)

It becomes evident again that Guil is desperate to find reason and comfort, while Ros is able to accept reality and move on. It may seem to go against reason, but when you are in a desperate situation, it takes much more strength to embrace reality, than it does to try and reason it out.

**mrmephistopheles** · 05-23-2003, 09:15 AM

Do your own damn homework. It's not like anybody who helps you here would get credit for it...

zspturbo · 05-23-2003, 09:19 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrmephistopheles
Do your own damn homework. It's not like anybody who helps you here would get credit for it...

it isnt homework, and they would get a big virtual hug.

I hope when you get home you are more playful :-p

Dousan_PG · 05-23-2003, 09:26 AM

let me rephrase for kevin

Do your own damn assignment. It's not like anybody who helps you here would get credit for it...

**mrmephistopheles** · 05-23-2003, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by zspturbo
I hope when you get home you are more playful :-p

Who says i'm not playful??!?!? I'll whack 'em with my banstick!

http://www.zilvia.net/f/showthread.php?s=&postid=255757

Ok, fo sho, it ISN'T 'homework' but it's still work that you're supposed to do on your own so your teacher can get a beter idea of how well you're learning. Thanks for the clarification, Aaron.

zspturbo · 05-23-2003, 09:39 AM

thanks for the help guys, I think that with your assistance, I'll be able to ace this and save my A in the class!

**mrmephistopheles** · 05-23-2003, 09:53 AM

what HS do you go to anyway?

05-23-2003, 08:23 AM	#1
zspturbo BANNED Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: saint louis Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Help me with my english paper FAST PLEASE! My teacher just sprung an assignment on us, and we have an hour and a half to write 2 seperate paragraphs about this book.... problem is, I didnt read the book because, as anyone who HAS read it will agree... it is CRAP!!! it is "Rosencrantz and Guildenstern are dead" by tom stoppard. its a stupid exestentialist waste of ink, and I refused to read it. anyways, the questions are: Who is the stronger character, R or G? be sure to define what you feel makes one character stronger than the other Since the play contains elements of both the comic and tragic traditions, what appears to be Stoppards view on man and the nature of man? be sure to support your conclusions with crap and stuff. if you have read this play or know a site that can help me, PLEASE DO!!! btw, I just watched the movie, which is supposedly very accurate, and I still am screwed with writing this.

05-23-2003, 08:41 AM	#2
Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	rent the movie again tim roth and gary oldman iirc two awesome actors. book is good. read it. otherwise google for help on it. im sure there are a many sites about it. __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira Last edited by Dousan_PG; 05-23-2003 at 08:57 AM..

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Dousan_PG Post Whore! Join Date: May 2002 Location: Orange County, California Age: 42 Posts: 16,640 Trader Rating: (23) Rides Gallery: Dousan_PG Feedback Score: 23 reviews	let me rephrase for kevin Do your own damn assignment. It's not like anybody who helps you here would get credit for it... __________________ Aaron Pink GodziRa www.geocities.com/pink_godzira

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05-23-2003, 09:04 AM	#3
zspturbo BANNED Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: saint louis Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thats the movie I saw. but dude, these paragraphs are DUE in an hour. its a timed writing.

05-23-2003, 09:12 AM	#4
zspturbo BANNED Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: saint louis Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	someone tell me what you think: Topic 1: Arguments could be made either way depending on a persons beliefs, but I believe that Ros is a stronger person, due to the fact that he is able to accept what is reality for them. Throughout the entire play, Guil continuously seeks out a reason why everything is happening, and he seems to voice every thought that comes into his head on the topic. Ros, on the other hand, takes the "sleeper" approach, and seems seem dumb, while he is actually smart. This is immediately evident when the play begins, as Guil attempts to find reason in the behavior of the coin, voicing his thoughts, and seemingly being the "intelligent" one of the pair. Meanwhile Ros simply collects coins, because he has already figured out on his own, that the coin is going to be heads every time. Later in the story, at the beginning of the second act, Ros and Guil debate over the discussion they just had with Hamlet, and the scoring of it: Ros: He murdered us. Guil: He might have had the edge. Ros: Twenty-Seven--Three, and you think he might have had the edge?! He murdered us. (II, p. 56-57) It becomes evident again that Guil is desperate to find reason and comfort, while Ros is able to accept reality and move on. It may seem to go against reason, but when you are in a desperate situation, it takes much more strength to embrace reality, than it does to try and reason it out.

05-23-2003, 09:15 AM	#5
mrmephistopheles Inactive Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 19 Posts: 14,334 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	Do your own damn homework. It's not like anybody who helps you here would get credit for it...

05-23-2003, 09:39 AM	#9
zspturbo BANNED Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: saint louis Posts: 160 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	thanks for the help guys, I think that with your assistance, I'll be able to ace this and save my A in the class!

05-23-2003, 09:53 AM	#10
mrmephistopheles Inactive Admin Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: BFE Age: 19 Posts: 14,334 Trader Rating: (9) Rides Gallery: mrmephistopheles Feedback Score: 9 reviews	what HS do you go to anyway?