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Old 03-01-2010, 06:58 PM   #1
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isis coilovers review

*edit* mods, i just realized i named my thread the same as the original thread started by another user so if you could change the name to "isis coilovers writeup" or something along those lines i'd appreciate it.

Ok, here's some background info. keep in mind the motor popped so i only got to ride ont he coils for a couple days

THE CAR
the car's an '89 coupe with like 25X,XXX miles on it, and it's in really rough shape, i bought it as a project. one of the first things i decided to do, since the suspension that came on the car was GONE, was buy some inexpensive coilovers. when i heard about the price on these ISIS coils i couldn't resist. i found no info on them except the specs (which were great), and a bunch of people talking about how horrible they were, even though they'd never even seen a physical set in their lives. naturally, i had to have them. It's nice to be the first because usually you're plesantly surprised with the end result, and you get in before everyone catches on and the price goes up. This is pretty much the case here.

THE COILS
the coils are the ISIS basic HR's. they're fully ride height adjustable in 2 ways. first, the spring itself is adjustable as it is on pretty much all traditional coilovers, second, the actual damper is adjustable within the mounting hardware, this is to ensure that even at their lowes point, the damper is positioned in a way that the suspension has pretty much "full travel" they are also fully camber adjustable up front while the rears are a static mount. They are also very attractive... here are the specs from the site i got them on


ISIS [I-sis] Basic HR Coilovers - Nissan 240sx 89-93.

These are a great Entry level basic coilovers for the street and occasional track use. Provides a comfortable ride while improving handling

Fully Height Adjustable and 8 way adjustable dampening. Twin Tube Design. Front Pillowball Upper Camber mounts. Rear solid upper bushing for more comfortable street driving

Spring Rate - 8K Front, 6K Rear.
For more information, please visit this products webpage.
THE INSTALLATION
very straightforward, i haven't messed with the dampening or camber since i put them in, which leaves an even better impression on me considering how they felt when i drove on them

THE IMPRESSION

"the good"
without the car being aligned, and without the dampening being adjusted, the coilvers still felt GREAT, for an entry level coil i was absolutely taken aback by how well the car handled compared to stock, they felt pretty hard in turns but i didn't necessarily feel every pebble in the road, speed bumps were a bit rough but hey, when aren't they with coilovers?

"the bad"
only two things i don't really like about the coils, one is that i was kind of hoping to ge a real "slam" out of them, what they gave was still a decent drop, but not necessarily a "slam," as you will see later in the pictures. i will take out the rear adjustment perches to get another 3/4 to 1 inch out of the backs. second problem, aslo in the back, is that while in the fronts the bottom of the mount is open so the shock can be adjusted as low as the user wishes, the rears had a stopping point, this is by design of the nissan suspension, and there is no way to logically remedy it, but it was an annoyance nonetheless.

THE PICS

sorry for the horrible image quality, i'll have better ones up tomorrow, these pictures were taken from about waist level, and from about 8-10 feet away, as most of you know, point and shoot cameras tend to distort the dimensions of the actual image, and they actually look beter in person, hopefully day pictures will do a bit more justice. for now this is all you get! haha

keep in mind i'm on 195/60/15's so for those of you with bigger wheel/tire combos, you will get more tire under the fender (i would imagine), and please excuse the fact that it's a shitbox, it's a work in progress.

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here are mine



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Old 03-01-2010, 07:15 PM   #2
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Not a slam? These are damn near perfect height if you ask me (and that's on stock wheels!)
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Not a slam? These are damn near perfect height if you ask me (and that's on stock wheels!)
perfect height? maybe
slammed.... no..

on my stock wheels with tanabe sustec 7's i can slam over the tirewall.

shorter spring that should lower the car a bit more.
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perfect height? maybe
slammed.... no..

on my stock wheels with tanabe sustec 7's i can slam over the tirewall.

shorter spring that should lower the car a bit more.
you have isis? i have them all the way down but is there somewhere i could find shorter springs?
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What other coilover brands do you have first had expirience with? How do these compare?

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ridden in 240's with d-max and stance, though briefly. also have first hand experience with vogtland (on my jetta), tokico on my madaspeed, and a whole mess of others from friends cars.
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im interested to know what springs we can swap onto these in order to get a little more drop, though i do like the way they sit as is....
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How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.

This isn't a review thread. This is an IMDB movie chat about why Edward is the best Twilight character.

There is no concrete, real-world comparison between this setup and anything else presented. This post is one person's opinion that these coilovers are better than blown stock suspension.

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How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.




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How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.

This isn't a review thread. This is an IMDB movie chat about why Edward is the best Twilight character.

There is no concrete, real-world comparison between this setup and anything else presented. This post is one person's opinion that these coilovers are better than blown stock suspension.

OP, it's not you... it's me.
This.

Seems like a cheapo entry coilover.
I would only get these if they stopped making Stance.

Please do an actual full review and compare it with other coilovers for the same car before doing this again.
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How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.

This isn't a review thread. This is an IMDB movie chat about why Edward is the best Twilight character.

There is no concrete, real-world comparison between this setup and anything else presented. This post is one person's opinion that these coilovers are better than blown stock suspension.

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How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.

This isn't a review thread. This is an IMDB movie chat about why Edward is the best Twilight character.

There is no concrete, real-world comparison between this setup and anything else presented. This post is one person's opinion that these coilovers are better than blown stock suspension.

OP, it's not you... it's me.

i am glad i wasn't the only person who thought this right away.



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How is this even a review thread?

Crap tires, went from blown stock suspension to "god's gift to coilovers," low seat time, old worn-out bushings, Florida, etc.

This isn't a review thread. This is an IMDB movie chat about why Edward is the best Twilight character.

There is no concrete, real-world comparison between this setup and anything else presented. This post is one person's opinion that these coilovers are better than blown stock suspension.

OP, it's not you... it's me.
Dude what do you want from the OP Seriously. You want him to buy all of the coilovers that the market has to offer and compare them to the isis to make you happy? This dude and I don't have 1500 dollars to spend on a suspension. Yeah he compared it to his crap blown suspension it's miles better big whoop. I personally don't even care about wheel fitment and slamming a car those are bigger pains in the ass than looking good. It's low enough for me. It's cheap and it makes the car feel way better. It get s the job done. It's not going to beat the super awesome teins, Stance, PBM, Whatever but it's less than half the cost and it's better than rolling on stock. Don't shoot the guy down because he can't give you a review on what stance, etc feels compared to that if he could afford those brands he would be all over them. Me included. Quit hating on this thread. No one is saying that these are better than the name brand. But they are saying that they are a good beginner coil. i will purchase a set of these by the end of this summer.
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Dude what do you want from the OP Seriously. You want him to buy all of the coilovers that the market has to offer and compare them to the isis to make you happy? This dude and I don't have 1500 dollars to spend on a suspension. Yeah he compared it to his crap blown suspension it's miles better big whoop. I personally don't even care about wheel fitment and slamming a car those are bigger pains in the ass than looking good. It's low enough for me. It's cheap and it makes the car feel way better. It get s the job done. It's not going to beat the super awesome teins, Stance, PBM, Whatever but it's less than half the cost and it's better than rolling on stock. Don't shoot the guy down because he can't give you a review on what stance, etc feels compared to that if he could afford those brands he would be all over them. Me included. Quit hating on this thread. No one is saying that these are better than the name brand. But they are saying that they are a good beginner coil. i will purchase a set of these by the end of this summer.

thank you!, this is just a forum, not a damn magazine with shit tons of money to buy everything and write full spec reviews.
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God damnit, not another one of these fucking threads.

You say you don't have the money for "good suspension."

Ever try saving your money? Last summer I worked part time (20 hours a week MAX) at $8 an hour. What kind of coils do I have on my car? PBM.

It really isn't that hard. Just put a little away each paycheck.

PS- That's not slammed.
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Dude what do you want from the OP Seriously. You want him to buy all of the coilovers that the market has to offer and compare them to the isis to make you happy? This dude and I don't have 1500 dollars to spend on a suspension. Yeah he compared it to his crap blown suspension it's miles better big whoop. I personally don't even care about wheel fitment and slamming a car those are bigger pains in the ass than looking good. It's low enough for me. It's cheap and it makes the car feel way better. It get s the job done. It's not going to beat the super awesome teins, Stance, PBM, Whatever but it's less than half the cost and it's better than rolling on stock. Don't shoot the guy down because he can't give you a review on what stance, etc feels compared to that if he could afford those brands he would be all over them. Me included. Quit hating on this thread. No one is saying that these are better than the name brand. But they are saying that they are a good beginner coil. i will purchase a set of these by the end of this summer.
It still does not make his review all that informative. Excuse people here but basically we see so many coilovers coming out, that we do want to know just how good they really are compared to others.
We like to see informative reviews and truthfully all his review said was it felt better than blown stock and compared to his one or two rides on other coilovers in others cars.

It did not really give us any info on rebound and his statement about going over bumps and "well we all know how coilovers are" was completely useless.

Not all coilovers are the same over bumps. Crap ones are, good ones are not.

Seriously before you get all annoyed about people bashing his review read it again and realize it does not tell you much that would help you in considering purchasing said coils.
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Ok,

1. Never said this was a comparison thread, these are not gods gift to coilovers, they are simply an alternative to expensive coils.

2. Never said I didn't have the money, never had the intention of paying a huge amount on "name recognition" coils. I wanted to go the cheap route because this car is not gonna be a track whore race car, just a fun weekend car. It'll probably get an sr with light mods and stay that way.

3. The intention of this thread was to simply add to the very little info available about the coils and put up pictures of the ride height they offer.

4. If you don't want these coilovers, please don't buy them, I do not make or lose money, time, pride, or sweat in correlation with isis sales. The coils are dirt cheap, offer a great ride/ride height, and they have a lifetime warranty.

For the budget minded consumer, I say definitely go for some isis, for those who feel the need to be "zilvia cool." Check out stance, d-max, tien, etc.
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*sigh* Heaven forbid you aren't riding on the same goddamn coils everyone else is on and aren't tucking your fucking retarded looking stretched-out tires on "hella tyte" 18" rims that look like shit. I'm aware that that isn't slammed, and that you're not slammed until your frame is on the street...but that's a great ride height for the price of these coilovers if you ask me. /rant

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*sigh* Heaven forbid you aren't riding on the same goddamn coils everyone else is on and aren't tucking your fucking retarded looking stretched-out tires on "hella tyte" 18" rims that look like shit. I'm aware that that isn't slammed, and that you're not slammed until your frame is on the street...but that's a great ride height for the price of these coilovers if you ask me. /rant

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It still does not make his review all that informative. Excuse people here but basically we see so many coilovers coming out, that we do want to know just how good they really are compared to others.
We like to see informative reviews and truthfully all his review said was it felt better than blown stock and compared to his one or two rides on other coilovers in others cars.

It did not really give us any info on rebound and his statement about going over bumps and "well we all know how coilovers are" was completely useless.

Not all coilovers are the same over bumps. Crap ones are, good ones are not.

Seriously before you get all annoyed about people bashing his review read it again and realize it does not tell you much that would help you in considering purchasing said coils.
WellWhy do you want a review of these parts. Not trying to come off mad man. Get what you want but isn't that the point? According to you everything besides name brand sucks. So why do you want him to compare it for you if all you will buy is Brand name stuff cause Ebay stuff is stupid?
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[QUOTE=JurisMyDiction;3322893]Ok,

2. Never said I didn't have the money, never had the intention of paying a huge amount on "name recognition" coils. I wanted to go the cheap route because this car is not gonna be a track whore race car, just a fun weekend car. It'll probably get an sr with light mods and stay that way.



My bad man I shouldn't have assumed you didn't have the money I don't know you. Anyways thanks for your review. IT sold me that's for damn sure.
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Personally... just personally.... WHO CARES!!!

Its a forum, people can read what they want and can believe what they want. There is not one person who can say they are the coilover god who knows everything. Forums and INTERNET is for posting personal opinions. No one can be libel to what they say on the internet period. Its just stupid if people think they are....

I mean yes you can find useful information and I don't mind what he wrote. For different folks his review is good and for some it doesn't work for them. I keep an open mind about whats out there and personally its cool. He has something to say about these coils and I don't mind listening. Its not a bad thing AND he posted pictures of how they look.

Its the internet... say what you want, its up to the reader to listen or not....
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:25 PM   #28
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WellWhy do you want a review of these parts. Not trying to come off mad man. Get what you want but isn't that the point? According to you everything besides name brand sucks. So why do you want him to compare it for you if all you will buy is Brand name stuff cause Ebay stuff is stupid?
Wow you are an idiot. I am speaking generally for the forum. You also assume an awful lot of what I said, in fact you assume stuff I did not say. LOL

My point which you so blindly missed is the fact that, if you are going to review something do it right. He basically put them on his car said they lowered it nice and he thinks they ride ok. To sum it up.

That to me and to a lot of other people reading the forum is not that informative.

A statement like "speed bumps were a bit rough but hey, when aren't they with coilovers'? Is a uneducated statement and not review worthy.

It shows the reviewer does not even understand the physics involved in proper dampening.
If he had mentioned stuff about rebound and compression it would have been informative but excuse me that's probably just asking to much.

Though do I diverge by getting to technical for you?

Fact is the average person would still not get much out of the review, is not even in depth. He compares them to stock suspension, worn out stock suspension at that! He says they feel hard. Wow great analysis there.
He says they feel great but then goes on the make the speed bump statement.

What is so great about something that cannot handle proper rebound and compression? Which is pretty much what his speed bump statement is saying but he does not even realize that.

You asked me to tear his review apart in not so many words so do not cry about this post.

The review needs to be informative for the sake of people reading the forum. In its current state it does not say much. In fact a person could go out a buy these and find out they suck. Why because his review did not have enough information to make an informed decision from.

Excuse me for wanting good stuff to be posted on the forum that can actually help people.
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Old 03-04-2010, 02:51 PM   #29
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Soooo, dude rode along in another car for a second, and had different coils on a different car, and writes a review??

How are you gonna write a review on something you have no other experience with?
Just sayin.

If you saw someone have ice cream for a second, had a push up pop once,.........Then you cant give a good review of an ice cream flavor, cause you got nothing to base it off of.....
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