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b00st2R
10-04-2005, 08:42 PM
Im wondering if anyone have this on their 240sx yet? from the spring rate 12k f 10k t sound pretty damn stiff. I took the bullet and ordered a set from ebay yesterday and hope it wont be hell lol...

wootwoot
10-04-2005, 09:01 PM
I know someone who put them on recently and he said it "wasnt that bad with the dampening on the softest." I can ask him more about them next time I see him. But for my needs that is some STIFF ass shit

HyperTek
10-04-2005, 09:30 PM
i heard its the same dampening as the regular ones, just a stiffer spring. some people say they are crap tho, but thats usually people that never tried em.

sw20>>s14
10-05-2005, 02:00 AM
my friend who track tested them said that they sucked...he said that theyre a little more circuit oriented than drift...too stiff for any sufficient weight transfer...

SilviaDriver
10-05-2005, 03:49 AM
well the crazy thing is, not EVERYBODY is into drifting. so just becuz they are not good for drifting i guess they sucked?

TheSpeedFactor
10-05-2005, 08:50 AM
people who actually own them should chime in here. Megan Racing is one of our sponsors for our drift car and we run the Track Series and we couldn't be happier. Our driver Johnathan has given us a lot of feed back and he can't say enough about them and the car is driven on the street as well. We are very happy with them and i don't think they are too harsh by any means. I would recommend these to anyone who wants an aggressive suspension setup. We have sold a lot of the track series and all of our customers have given us nothing but rave reviews. If you guys want some installed pics or anything please let me know.

Ian
10-05-2005, 09:11 AM
i've spoken to the guys at megan racing regarding the differences and being an owner of MR coilovers, i'd like to defend them against some of the misconceptions in this thread:

1. the street and track dampers ARE different.
2. the track coilovers are nearly TOO stiff for drifting and most uses. The rates are designed for circuit racing just like someone mentioned earlier. Weight transfer is almost gone.
3. on their project car, they had the track coilovers but found them too stiff for drifting themselves and swapped a set of street (8/6) springs onto their track dampers
4. they are working on getting springs individually to sell custom spring rates.

90RS13
10-05-2005, 02:32 PM
If MR is making "track" coilovers, they should make some that have true 2-way adjustable dampers. I'll never call a damper with 1-way adjustment, "track". Not to say I don't like MR. I have the street coilovers and am satisfied. Very satisfied for the money spent. Just want more companies to start making 2-way adjustable dampers.

sw20>>s14
10-05-2005, 04:19 PM
well the crazy thing is, not EVERYBODY is into drifting. so just becuz they are not good for drifting i guess they sucked?your right, i assumed that the poster was referring to drifting...thats why i mentioned that they are more circuit oriented...so i stand corrected: not good for drifting, and good circuit coilovers...i knew someone was gonna twist my words :hyper:

edit: oh yeah, i forgot to mention that he is a sponsered drifter...so obviously his opinion was very biased towards drift...maybe thats why its etched in my brain that they "suck"...im sure that theyre a more than competent coilover for circuit/road racing...

RedSuns
10-05-2005, 06:57 PM
i've spoken to the guys at megan racing regarding the differences and being an owner of MR coilovers, i'd like to defend them against some of the misconceptions in this thread:

1. the street and track dampers ARE different.
2. the track coilovers are nearly TOO stiff for drifting and most uses. The rates are designed for circuit racing just like someone mentioned earlier. Weight transfer is almost gone.
3. on their project car, they had the track coilovers but found them too stiff for drifting themselves and swapped a set of street (8/6) springs onto their track dampers
4. they are working on getting springs individually to sell custom spring rates.


nearly too stiff?

Ian
10-05-2005, 07:27 PM
weight transfer...


that is all

Jeff240sx
10-05-2005, 07:30 PM
They sound really stiff. I have my street 8/6 coils on 1/4 stiff or softest, depending on what I'm doing. I can imagine that 12/10 would be nuts.
Enjuku's cars are running Megan coilovers also, and not by force. One of the drivers I know has said great things about drifting the 8/6 setup (Mattback). He loves 'em. The other I haven't heard firsthand, so can't comment. But, they're twin cars, so I'd imagine it's running MR coils also.
-Jeff

RedSuns
10-05-2005, 08:44 PM
weight transfer...


that is all


i ran into the same problem at first....with that hefty spring you should be at about 25%F and 35%R with the adjustments...no preload on the springs

wootwoot
10-05-2005, 08:49 PM
If MR is making "track" coilovers, they should make some that have true 2-way adjustable dampers. I'll never call a damper with 1-way adjustment, "track". Not to say I don't like MR. I have the street coilovers and am satisfied. Very satisfied for the money spent. Just want more companies to start making 2-way adjustable dampers.


I dream of it as well.

SAC in Sarasota swears by the Megan coilovers. There drift car has it and a majority of their customers cars and their personal cars. Not the track but its saying something..A couple of the people have track spec though. I need to talk to that one fella

henrymm
10-11-2005, 09:44 AM
i have the track series and i think they're aswesome!! but they're no good for drifting as weight transfer is elimated. overall, they were great bang for the buck!!!!



i'm a dumbass to have 12/10 spring rates on a streetcar!! :hammer:

MakotoS13
10-11-2005, 10:04 AM
the only time i dont hate my coilovers is when im in college station, dallas or san antonio. houston sucks. i dont have megan but they're 8/6 and for bad roads you don't want that. for my area this is not a date car (unless she has a thing for buckboard wagons). then again, i have polyeurethane bushings too.

whatever, 12/10 is insane off the track. the end.

Siizzzoooo
10-11-2005, 11:18 AM
I've got the 8/6 versions, and they are smooth as silk. i can't imagine a better coilover for daily driving and occassional track days

axiomatik
10-11-2005, 11:20 AM
Why do people keep starting threads asking for opinions about a product AFTER they have already ordered it? Why not do some research BEFORE buying?

xnissans14x
10-11-2005, 11:44 AM
the only time i dont hate my coilovers is when im in college station, dallas or san antonio. houston sucks. i dont have megan but they're 8/6 and for bad roads you don't want that. for my area this is not a date car (unless she has a thing for buckboard wagons). then again, i have polyeurethane bushings too.

whatever, 12/10 is insane off the track. the end.

I live in houston and have the megan racing coilovers, the street version. I agree with you that the roads in Houston suck. So you can imagine my daily drive.

TheSpeedFactor
10-11-2005, 12:03 PM
well johnathan had a great time on them at VMP the other day. I guess it's all in the driver.

Siizzzoooo
10-11-2005, 12:40 PM
i agree, it depends on the driver

like i said, my setup rides very soft, imo, with my setting in the middle of Hard and Soft, or about 20 of 1-32 clicks, and I'm also slammed if that matters to any of you

sw20>>s14
10-11-2005, 03:34 PM
i wouldnt recommend 12/10 to anybody that plans on daily driving their car...my 10/8 monotube is bearable at 1/4 stiffness, but could be very twitchy and edgey at high speeds or bumps at high speeds...stiffness sux unless if your on the right surface i.e. track...sometimes mountain roads...

unforgiven
10-11-2005, 09:22 PM
I just installed my rears today, gonna install the fronts tomorrow and take it for a spin. I hope its not too stiff, all though I can't imagine such thing as too stiff, but thats just me.

tastyratz
10-12-2005, 12:12 PM
I have 8/6 and thats stiff enough for a street car. going 12/10 will be stupid for a daily driver i dont care where your from. when I go over a bump or a bunch of them i get tossed up and down a little causing me to have a hard time modulating the throttle. ill just nail even a little pothole causing me to let off the gas for just a second and then hit it a little too hard making it burn out or just have a nasty buck over everything (that makes for an annoying ride and pissed off passengers). I have s14 seats too which have me strapped in nicely but its too hard to avoid. driving with 15s makes things a little more bouncy with the sidewalls for me too which gets annoying.


please tell me you dont have stock shocks now. did you just install a coilover set that stiff while keeping stock fronts on? thats DANGEROUS to drive on like that.... NOT a good idea.

unforgiven
10-12-2005, 02:39 PM
I finished installing my coilovers today. They are fuckin awesome, not too stiff at all. I have them set at 30% front 25% rear, the ride is nice and stiff but not the least bit harsh. It was raining out, and I purposely tried to hit every pothole and bump to see what you people are talking about losing traction, it didn't slip at all, none of that "jumping over bumps" shit, it rides awesome. Really, I don't know what 8/6 feels like, but if you think 8/6 is too stiff and 12/10 is "only for track" then you should really sell your s13 and buy yourself a nice caddy. :rant2:

unforgiven
10-12-2005, 02:43 PM
please tell me you dont have stock shocks now. did you just install a coilover set that stiff while keeping stock fronts on? thats DANGEROUS to drive on like that.... NOT a good idea.
lol.. nah i was just to lazy to finish it yesterday so I only installed the rears yesterday. installed the fronts today and drove it. still not done, the rsr bushings go in next.

sw20>>s14
10-12-2005, 04:21 PM
I finished installing my coilovers today. They are fuckin awesome, not too stiff at all. I have them set at 30% front 25% rear, the ride is nice and stiff but not the least bit harsh. It was raining out, and I purposely tried to hit every pothole and bump to see what you people are talking about losing traction, it didn't slip at all, none of that "jumping over bumps" shit, it rides awesome. Really, I don't know what 8/6 feels like, but if you think 8/6 is too stiff and 12/10 is "only for track" then you should really sell your s13 and buy yourself a nice caddy. :rant2:
well thats good that you are enjoying your coils and dont regret your decision...each person has a different definition of "stiff" and "comfort." but IMO, anything over 10/8 should be left at the track...esp. around my area...keep us updated on your driving impressions...btw, what are you looking for in these? time trials? drift? auto x? or mostly mountainous roads (i cant decide saying which ones more ghey: "touge" or "mountainous roads")?

unforgiven
10-12-2005, 04:27 PM
i have no idea yet, gonna take it to the track sometime this month after i do the bushings, 5 speed swap, and maybe rucas, i guess i'll find out what it does best and go from there.

slider2828
10-12-2005, 05:29 PM
I actually had them on for about 1 month now. Hmmm I think it is a little too stiff for the street as I live in basically San Francisco, and streets suck here with cable car trax and like water pipes. But when they are on the smoother streets, its awesome. I don't think they are too stiff, about medium harshness, but definitely not too bad. As for drifting, I dunno what people are saying, but I drift fine on them no problem with an ebrake, but I have an SR so that might help..... But I would so recommend these if you like both drift and grip, like I do.

unforgiven
10-12-2005, 06:29 PM
I doubt you'll find streets worse than in the suburbs of new york, i've put them to the test, and for my taste its not harsh AT ALL, I love them. But I think right now they're softer than they should be because of my stock bushings, and otherwise stock suspension with no chassis stiffening, I think the chassis may be soaking up some of the harshness, but I guess we'll see, so far I am very satisfied, and wouldn't change anything about them. Also they have to settle and after I put some miles on them I think they'll soften up even more, then I can make use of the other 70% of damping. Even if they become 50% harsher after bushings, sway bars, strut bars, etc, I say I can still live with them. Handling in the rain is better than stock, so I am satisfied with that also although I can't really put them to test with my pos junkyard tires on steelies. I was worried wet traction would suffer with stiffer suspension, but it didn't. :drama:

b00st2R
10-12-2005, 07:13 PM
So it seem like all those people who have the track series think they are pretty good, it BS when people come out bashing when they have no experience with the track coilover. im going to put mine in this sunday and let see how i think :naughtyd:

ghostuss
10-12-2005, 07:23 PM
i was in one with the track series and a few other track series coilovers. For comparsion, I am not sure if chassis or other suspension setup has any influences but It does feel a little softer than the spring rate suppose to. 12 and 10 should be much stiffer than that. Anywayz I personally have the street version on my car. It does feel a lot more roll on my s13 coupe than the silkroad on my s14. However I have to factor in the s14 chassis is stiffer and I also had ST swaybars and maybe better bushings. Overall I would get these coilovers over strut and spring combo anydays. They are worth every penny.

krustindumm
10-12-2005, 07:35 PM
Just a question for the people who tried drifting with them...

Did you corner weight the car and set it up for more foreward weight bias, or just run them at an even and visually apealing height?

unforgiven
10-12-2005, 07:40 PM
didn't get to try it on dry pavement but on wet pavement its really easy to control oversteer if that helps any... it's a lot less sloppy than stock, but that's expected.

RedSuns
10-12-2005, 09:56 PM
Just a question for the people who tried drifting with them...

Did you corner weight the car and set it up for more foreward weight bias, or just run them at an even and visually apealing height?



my s14 was corner balanced to utilize the best center of gravity after i put the coilovers on

the car has never felt better

waynehead05
10-23-2005, 12:34 AM
i just ordered my track coilovers off of ebay and hope to test them out ASAP i'll throw out a review when i get mine on. i rode in a friends car with the street version and it was like a walk in the park so these should be border lineish for me. hopefully it doesn't piss off the girlies though.

Var
10-23-2005, 12:44 AM
I've been in a drift car with 12/10 springs. It was one of the best handling cars i've ever been in. It was also used for mountain runs. If the car doesnt feel right, it's cause the shocks suck. The ones i'm talking about were Apex coilovers and they kicked ass.

SoSideways
10-23-2005, 01:21 AM
I've been in a drift car with 12/10 springs. It was one of the best handling cars i've ever been in. It was also used for mountain runs. If the car doesnt feel right, it's cause the shocks suck. The ones i'm talking about were Apex coilovers and they kicked ass.

[off topic]

OMG you have an Opeth sig pic!! :bigok:

I've been into them since like 1997. Morningrise got me to be their biggest fan(boy) ever.

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Anywho, I installed these Megan Track coilovers onto my boss's S13 coupe, which has basically stock suspension and 18" wheels, running 225/45/18 fronts and 245/40/18s in the rear.

We set the damping to 20 front and rear to make sure they wouldn't bounce too much before we put it on.

After it was on, we took it for a test drive.

Holy crap, only flex in the suspension were the tires. Toyo Proxies 4 tires. My friend weighs 190 lbs and basically jumped on the rear bumper, and the rear of the car came down maybe 2mm (the top of the tire never touched the fender, and we have it set at maybe like 2 fingers worth of gap cause rear fenders aren't rolled).

Car cornered well, but going over bumps and such you're definitely going to feel it. Driveways will make you lift the inside rear wheel, so LSD is recommended.

So here's my solution:

Since I've heard people complain about the Megan Street coilovers's damping, saying that they were too soft, and thus the coilovers were oversprung, ie. bouncy, I would get the Track coilovers and get 10k springs for front, and 8k springs for rear.

That way, damping will be sufficient for the 10/8 springs, since they were meant for 12/10, and 10/8 still wouldn't be too bad. I don't know if the valving will work for 8/6 or not, seeing that's 4 kg/mm of difference, which is quite a bit.

Let me know what you guys think...

nissan_logik
10-23-2005, 01:37 AM
id say megan racing products suck and theres a reason that the enjuku cars never finish well but thats just my opinion. all who flame me are now pre-0wned by the first amendment.

Var
10-23-2005, 02:55 AM
[off topic]

OMG you have an Opeth sig pic!! :bigok:

I've been into them since like 1997. Morningrise got me to be their biggest fan(boy) ever.

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Dont forget the Avatar of the Still Life cover art


Most coilovers system are underdamped if anything. If the valving of these coils are adequate for the 12/10 rates (which would really surprise me) then they should do just fine with the 10/8 rates. The only way they wouldnt work is if they are overdamped(which would really really really surprise me). In that case even the softest setting would be too much damping for the 10/8 springs (which is near impossible). Running with the 10/8 should be fine if not better.

SoSideways
10-23-2005, 09:56 AM
Dont forget the Avatar of the Still Life cover art


Most coilovers system are underdamped if anything. If the valving of these coils are adequate for the 12/10 rates (which would really surprise me) then they should do just fine with the 10/8 rates. The only way they wouldnt work is if they are overdamped(which would really really really surprise me). In that case even the softest setting would be too much damping for the 10/8 springs (which is near impossible). Running with the 10/8 should be fine if not better.

I still like My Arms, Your Hearst the best, but Still Life is badass. I think it's still hard for people to get Still Life here in the US, unless you know where to look, no?

Anyways, 10/8 would probably be on the stiff side for the street, seeing as my car is a daily driver, and I'll probably only hit a few track events a year, and a drift event of two every few months.

I'd really like to go Silkroad RM/A8 with 8/6 spring rates, and Tanabe sway bars, but I cannot ignore how cheap the Megan coilovers are, and how everyone seem to love them...

waynehead05
10-30-2005, 10:48 PM
just swiched to the street ones instead of the track ones. got 40 bux back i can throw at something else instead.

RedSuns
10-31-2005, 02:49 PM
id say megan racing products suck and theres a reason that the enjuku cars never finish well but thats just my opinion. all who flame me are now pre-0wned by the first amendment.


wow...keep it up buddy

rotation3x
02-12-2006, 06:36 PM
I got a s14 and was wondering if someone could tell me what coils to get all I have done to my suspension is a greddy strut bar. I like the megan racing ones b/c they are cheap ... but are they any good? I do drift alot but i also use my car as a daily driver and i am planning on taking it to some drift events this year.me personally i would think for drifting i would want my setup as stiff as i could get. which ones are better for drift track or street and which ones are better for daily driving/ drifting.



and my passengers can deal with it

RB26Sileighty
02-12-2006, 10:41 PM
i'm gettin the street set for my 240...from what i have read there the best bang for the buck...

KA24DESOneThree
02-12-2006, 10:51 PM
well the crazy thing is, not EVERYBODY is into drifting. so just becuz they are not good for drifting i guess they sucked?

No, they mostly suck because the valving is subpar at best and the spring rates are excessive.

It's my honest opinion that there is not a single SA coilover out there that is truly tuned for track driving. They are all compromised.

Nan Desu Ka?!
02-13-2006, 04:17 AM
I got a s14 and was wondering if someone could tell me what coils to get all I have done to my suspension is a greddy strut bar. I like the megan racing ones b/c they are cheap ... but are they any good? I do drift alot but i also use my car as a daily driver and i am planning on taking it to some drift events this year.me personally i would think for drifting i would want my setup as stiff as i could get. which ones are better for drift track or street and which ones are better for daily driving/ drifting.



and my passengers can deal with it

HELLA OLD THREAD!!!

why on earth did you bump this shit over 4 months later. Also, that question has ben answered a BILLION TIMES!! almost twice a day for fucks sake. SEARCH!!

you sir, fail misserably.

S14DB
02-13-2006, 05:12 AM
I got a s14 and was wondering if someone could tell me what coils to get all I have done to my suspension is a greddy strut bar. I like the megan racing ones b/c they are cheap ... but are they any good? I do drift alot but i also use my car as a daily driver and i am planning on taking it to some drift events this year.me personally i would think for drifting i would want my setup as stiff as i could get. which ones are better for drift track or street and which ones are better for daily driving/ drifting.



and my passengers can deal with it
Thanks for using your first post to bump an old thread for something off topic. Please don't do it again.