8kg front 6kg rear to stiff for street use?

[240sxhed]

Here goes. I have been looking into buying coilovers and have come to the conclusion that megan racing coils are the best for what i want to pay. A good friend of mine is telling me that the spring rates are to stiff for street use and will be VERY unpleasant.
I have searcehd for reviews on this but most of them are more of a discussion of wheter or not the megan racing coils are the same as the Apexi N1 dampers (i think that was the correct model). So what i want to know, from those of you who have the megan racing coilovers, is: how is the ride, is the adjustablity of the dampers enough to make it a comfortable street ride as well as a decent track setup. :bow:

[JVD]

Coming from lowering springs and shocks/struts it is much stiffer. If it is just a street car then I would just go with spring/shocks but if you are going to track it a bit go with coils. Also, the roads around here aren't very well maintained so some roads are almost unbearable. I have mine set 12 clicks from the stiffest because the softest setting seemed too bouncy. I haven't really had any time to fool around with them but they feel okay. They are definitely not for someone who's looking for a smooth ride. If I were to buy another set I would buy ones which are more known for their streetability. Maybe the Kei Office(the ones that are for street use) or SilkRoads.

JVD.

[420sx]

dont be a pussy. 8/6 isnt stiff yet. 10/8 is.

[mr_240sx]

GP Sports GR-6's are Great for street use!!

[ayes]

dont be a pussy. 8/6 isnt stiff yet. 10/8 is.
+1
imagine 12/10

[KiDyNomiTe]

You get used to it really quickly.

[240sxhed]

alright thanks guys, im just going to order them. It is not going to be my daily driver after this summer anyway. More replies and comments are still welcome. :wiggle:

[OptionZero]

and some coilovers might have even better ride than a shock/spring or stock, because the dampening is precisely matched to the spring rate. My friend's S13 hatch w/ JIC FLT A2's (8/6 i believe) felt much more comfortable than my s14's RS-R Sus Down/AGX combo and on par if not better than my other friend's stock S14.

This, of course, with dampening at lowest settings.

[S14DB]

You get used to it. It's more your passengers. I've had a couple girls complane that their boobs hurt after a while. You shouldn't have a problem but your passengers will.

[raen419]

i have 8/6. at first, the front didn't feel stiff enough, and rears felt like bricks. now, after a month of lots of driving, they feel fine. my girlfriend has even gotten used to them, and she hated it at first.
p.s. boobs bouncing is good.

[wootwoot]

You get used to it. It's more your passengers. I've had a couple girls complane that their boobs hurt after a while. You shouldn't have a problem but your passengers will.



we need to install a camera in your car and I need to come hang out with you and your friends.
Jic FLTa2's are 7/5 now, maybe 7/6. They originally came in 8/6 but I think that SCC article made them change their mind a bit. I could go research it some and give definite answers but I would rather cause a ruckus

[MakotoS13]

a lot has to do with ride quality (most of it is the strut strength). KTS's are 8/6 and i have no problems with my pos roads on my softest setting and my tires are supposedly really hard (though they are 55 tall). now, try to run around the same roads with em on full hard and you're gonna buck like a tazered bronco.

[JVD]

Yeah, when you are driving it doesn't seem bad but when you are the passenger it seems much rougher. I have rode passenger in my car and I much prefer driving. Also I hate how my bro hardly makes an effort to avoid pot holes.

[raen419]

my buddy's KTS's feel fine, even on hardest. then again, after riding in a s14 w/ 10/8, 8/6 feels like a sofa.

[nokuntrol]

What about preloading of springs?
If the springs are linear, then does preloading of the springs effect the ride quality?

[Wei240]

s13 w/ jic flta2 8/6 daily driver,
clean paved streets like o.c, then it's fine
crappy streets like l.a, pretty damn annoying, pretty stiff, rattle, rattle, rattle, even the freeways, you'll get used to it yes, but long drives will start to annoy you, feels like you've just did construction work with a jackhammer...

[MakotoS13]

s13 w/ jic flta2 8/6 daily driver,
clean paved streets like o.c, then it's fine
crappy streets like l.a, pretty damn annoying, pretty stiff, rattle, rattle, rattle, even the freeways, you'll get used to it yes, but long drives will start to annoy you, feels like you've just did construction work with a jackhammer...

my car doesn't rattle even on bumpy roads :)

[wootwoot]

Thats because you were lucky enough to put a new interior in your car. I need to hurry up and do that before they are all gone from the junkyards....I so RULE at going offtopic!

[krustindumm]

One of my friends runs Zeal Function D's (hard spring rate option) on the street. It isn't bad at all. Just on road trips you have to stop every 45 min. to piss because it beats up your kidneys pretty bad. I think those rates are like 10/9 I'm not sure.

[turtl631]

If you plan to do much hard street driving or driving on tracks that are more bumpy, you may want to look into softer rates as well. Stiff coilovers don't do well on anything but the smoothest surfaces, you just skitter all over the place. You want the coilovers to help keep the tires in contact with the road, and at times softer is better.

[Ian]

if you ask me, the Tein Flex is very streetable..too soft for me, but it is streetable

[holisticbeatz]

10/8kg B-wave coilovers + no dampening adjustments = Two bruised kidneys and loose fillings

[Stock-S13]

I think you have that mixed up, if you drive around on tall sidewalls you will be bouncing up and down as the sides allow more for flex. Whether they be on soft or stiff.

Believe me I have done both on KTS while you were trying to sell that riced out Mercury of yours...

I have found driving in both Orange County and San Bernardino (University area, $$$) that they can be harsh for others, like i had this chick in my car ans she wouldn't shut the hell up about the ride, and how hot it was. I can take the harshness and noise, my friend has Zeals with Brides and jesus now that is Hardcore.

I drive on Full stiff maxed out and slammed KTS on 45 sidewalls. Its somthing else, but I love it.

a lot has to do with ride quality (most of it is the strut strength). KTS's are 8/6 and i have no problems with my pos roads on my softest setting and my tires are supposedly really hard (though they are 55 tall). now, try to run around the same roads with em on full hard and you're gonna buck like a tazered bronco.

[sw20>>s14]

i think youll get used to it in no time. it sounds like your more worried about ride quality than rates. if you want to go with ride quality, dont get teins and get some jics or cusco...

btw, lose the "D" in your sig...unless if you swapped and im just being an asshole; if so, then negate <

[240sxhed]

[/QUOTE]btw, lose the "D" in your sig...unless if you swapped and im just being an asshole; if so, then negate <[/QUOTE]

Yes i am Swapped :yum: no worries though. And i have ordered the coils, they should arrive this week sometime.
Ryan

[Dunkee]

You'll get used to the stiff ride, what really sucks is going over bumpy roads while taking a turn...I found 8/6 too stiff bc of that. Tein Flex will give you a lil more roll but it is easier to control going over bumps. If you're gonna be more on the track than on the street then it would be worth it.

[sw20>>s14]

MRs are very good coilovers for the buck, so youll definitely be enjoying the performance/handling too much to notice the mediocre ride...

[S14DB]

btw, lose the "D" in your sig...unless if you swapped and im just being an asshole; if so, then negate <
You are being an asshole. STFU and stay on topic. :madfawk:

[MakotoS13]

I think you have that mixed up, if you drive around on tall sidewalls you will be bouncing up and down as the sides allow more for flex. Whether they be on soft or stiff.

so what you're saying is that despite the fact that i have done BOTH and know for a fact what im talking about i'm somehow wrong because i've had my coilovers like a month?


Believe me I have done both on KTS while you were trying to sell that riced out Mercury of yours...


oh, now it gets juicy. see instead of being obviously wrong (i did mention that right?) you had to try and slam on a car that you've never even seen (yet another obvious tidbit) because if you had you probably would have come to the conclusion that a blacked out car that looked mostly stock can't really be called rice.

i hope you're done, boy, cause i could go all night....

[S14DB]

One more Asshole comment in this thread and it get's locked and the poster pinked.

[Sil Beer S13]

I run 10/8 full stiff. Took about a week to get used to.

[NI_YON_Zenki]

Well, I'm 6'-4" w. a sunroof sitting on 8kg/ 5kg S14, Im use to it, I suggest you do the same, oh did I mention, sitting on the HypermaX II system. I think the 18's help balance the body shock. .. . Blown ass Riverside streets.

[98sr20ve]

Well, I will be the decenting voice. 8/6 is not that usable on the road IMHO. It's not horrible for comfort but I prefer lower rates. Biggest issue is that the car does not follow bumps while cornering that well. The small stuff is fine but anything beyond that will upset the car so much that the car is actually faster with the 6/5 setup or something similiar. I tried the 8/6 and switched to a 6/300lb setup. I may try the 8/6 again as I moved and the roads may be better and I did some other work to the car that made it follow irregularities better (grease fittings on the ES bushings+Camber/toe rods).

[turtl631]

Definitely report on how the car reacts if you go with the 8/6 setup again. It's hard to find good coilovers that come w/ softer springs, and as seen with the KTS fiasco, it may not be best to put softer springs on many of the standard jdm 8/6 coilovers. As you said though, since most people do use their car on streets quite a bit, stiff springs can be too stiff and cause the car to be very unpredictable and nervous over rough terrain.

[jOeHaCk98]

springs are cheap, get springs replacements.

[trsilvias13]

or just buy different tires during the next time u need tires. i see that lower profile are harsh. and too tall of a wall is very flexible/bouncy. find something in between and it will be nice. i had 12/10.. and i love it. great view of some bouncy twins. hahaa