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s13dan
10-22-2004, 11:48 PM
Just wondering what kinda numbers we got out there... and mods too
My best time was [email protected]
Redtop. Greddy FMIC & hard pipe kit, full exhaust, intake, 240sx MAF.

S13Dreamin
10-23-2004, 12:00 AM
Just wondering what kinda numbers we got out there... and mods too
My best time was [email protected]
Redtop. Greddy FMIC & hard pipe kit, full exhaust, intake, 240sx MAF.

What PSI were you running?

I don't have a 240, but in my B13 Sentra w/ T28 I would have probably been in the 12s, but I have no proof (never made it to the track before the move to FL, but people with similar mods have hit mid-high 12s with ease).

That is with 10-13psi, 3" turbo back, spearco FMIC, Z32 MAF, JWT ECU, Fidanza 9lb Flywheel, MSD 50lb inj, UR crank pulley, and a few other things... :blah:

Josh

P.S. I hate being on here talking about my B13, but hey, its all I have to talk about at this point :cool:

s13dan
10-23-2004, 12:03 AM
stock 8 psi, and the car has never ben tuned since the swap.... i need a better fuel pump cuz i have a stock 240 fuel pump...

S13Dreamin
10-23-2004, 12:12 AM
stock 8 psi, and the car has never ben tuned since the swap.... i need a better fuel pump cuz i have a stock 240 fuel pump...

From what I have seen/read, the 240 pump could be OK at stock boost depending on its condition, but it is always wise to upgrade that ASAP.

What was your 60'? R/T?

Josh

s13dan
10-23-2004, 12:22 AM
on my 13.78 run i had a 2.01 60 and a .590 reaction, but i had a stock clutch then and dry rotted tires so i could slip the clutch now i have a 6 puck, stage 3 pressure plate and its really hard to slip... i havnt run my car since the new clutch set up and my new falkens.. and im ganna get a supra fuel pump i think cuz my friend works at O,rielys(southwest autoparts store) and can get it at cost but i dunno how big a supra pump is, i heard same as a walbro 255.

S13Dreamin
10-23-2004, 12:48 AM
I am pretty sure the Supra pump is 290lph, and usually a bit more expensive (dont know what they are at cost, maybe cheaper than a walbro) than a Walbro.

The times seem pretty good especially under those conditions. Im sure you could knock a couple tenths off with some tuning and whatnot.

Josh

fliprayzin240sx
10-23-2004, 05:10 AM
Wow...13.7 at stock boost? Best times ive seen time wise is 12.8 stock T25/injectors tuned with HKS standalone 14 psi.

duey
10-23-2004, 07:53 AM
i ran [email protected] 2 weeks ago with my setup.

(specs on my cardomain site)

s13dan
10-23-2004, 12:31 PM
It seems that SR's dont have any balls up top... My freind has a turbo RSX and he ran a 13.9 @ 104, and anothe freind of mine has an all motor prelude and he ran a 14.5 @ 99.

and a 290 pump.. thats to big does anyone know what a stock 300Z TT pump is??

Id-
10-23-2004, 08:04 PM
i dont think a supratt pump is a 290; its like a walbro 255, it is more efficient in some areas and some areas it isnt... cant remember the specifics...
i THINK the Z32TT pump is a 290 though...

as far as not having balls up top; check out duey's car that just posted :) 111mph traps... thats way more balls than the little times you just posted :)

Vatche
10-23-2004, 08:17 PM
i ran a 14.6 with a stock sr and stock clutch shitty tires and stock boost with catback....side mount etc.... then i did all my mods, i should run mid to low 13's but i still need better tires and an lsd :) and alot of other things but thats what i run now

s13dan
10-23-2004, 11:57 PM
12.3 is fast, dont get me wrong, and NO offense to duey , that car is badass, but a lot of other cars would be going faster than 111mph running that same time... i think its just that SR's are all down low, maybe its just the T25? thats why i want more people to post there times a mods...

Touring240
10-24-2004, 12:17 AM
12.3 @ 111mph thats fucking amazing
I run 12.8 @ 107 mph with s14 turbo on a red top. dynoed at 266whp

Muzzy
10-24-2004, 12:24 AM
i guess i suk....15.5 at 92.3 stock boost....stock clutch....and scilencer in exhaust.

bing
10-24-2004, 12:36 AM
on my first night ever on the track i did a 14.07 at 101.01

red top, T25, unknown boost (est. 10-12psi) untuned SAFC, 6 pucker, full 3" except for a 2.5 cat that i havent been able to swap out yet.

i've been told that the trap speed is good for a much lower time.

i bogged several launches, call it nervousness....

i figured that was pretty good for a base run, and i know i can hit the high 13's with some tuning and practice.

suggestions?

Id-
10-24-2004, 01:00 AM
12.3 is fast, dont get me wrong, and NO offense to duey , that car is badass, but a lot of other cars would be going faster than 111mph running that same time... i think its just that SR's are all down low, maybe its just the T25? thats why i want more people to post there times a mods...

oh; all you look at is 1/4 mile times :rolleyes:
dude thats with a STOCK TURBO... there are PLENTY of turbos that will BOLTON in that stock location and produce far more power... GTIR turbod cars generally run in the 115mph range... GT25R and other GT variants can run 120mph+
how fast do you want to go? we're just talking T25-flanged turbos here... if you start getting into top-mount turbos, you're looking at WAY more power...

running 111mph on a little stock T25 w/o nitrous is MOVIN... oh and i'm sure duey used slicks or cheaters for a 12.3 at 111... :D you should go ride in a upgraded-turbo SR20 car, my friend's GTIR-turbo S13 is pretty quick :) pulled just fine to redline heh

nissandr1ft
10-24-2004, 10:07 AM
[email protected] 86.7mph, Pretty much stock, header,and exhaust w sub in trunk.

S13Dreamin
10-24-2004, 10:50 AM
i dont think a supratt pump is a 290; its like a walbro 255, it is more efficient in some areas and some areas it isnt... cant remember the specifics...
i THINK the Z32TT pump is a 290 though...


300zx is 255lph, a lot of the B-chassis guys use them with their DET swaps. Here are some specs on the SupraTT pump:

260 lph @ 43 psi; 220 lph @ 58 psi; @ 12 V 1.
290 lph @ 43 psi; 260 lph @ 58 psi; @ 14 V 1.

Josh

IvanAtSPRacing
10-24-2004, 11:06 AM
11.71 @118.54 16psi boost

Bone stock 115,500 mile KA with PK turbo kit, PK intercooler kit, PK fuel system, AEM EMS.

91 hatch, full weight, AC working, PW, PDL, Sunroof, etc
spare tire and jack were removed
running on 24.5-8-15 MT ET Drags on the rear

http://www.phatka-t.com/projectcars.htm

Ian
10-24-2004, 11:14 AM
wow, i swear, the KA-T is volatile compared to SR crap i've seen. I'm doin a KA turbo next 240 project i do. I've yet to run my car at the track, but w/ 2.5" exhaust, FMIC, BOV, Boost Controller, fuel pump and year old fuel (car sat for a long time) i dynoed 210 whp at 8 psi


now i've got all the exhaust goodies 3" to the bumper, 14 psi, hopefully i can pull off mid-high 13's at the least

IvanAtSPRacing
10-24-2004, 11:22 AM
This paticular car dynoed 305 whp on 10psi of boost and 405 whp 409 TQ on 16psi boost.

Aything much more then 400whp the ring lands on the stock KA pistons crack. I am currently building a forged piston motor with strengthened stock rods to see how much HP I can get out of the stock long block plus pistons.

http://www.phatka-t.com/ringlands.JPG

Everything on the KA seems to have been overbuilt or with boost in mind except for the pistons. I was so impressed with this motor / car, I decided to build an all out drag race car with the KA motor which can also been seen at the link above.

S13Dreamin
10-24-2004, 11:27 AM
11.71 @118.54 16psi boost

Bone stock 115,500 mile KA with PK turbo kit, PK intercooler kit, PK fuel system, AEM EMS.

91 hatch, full weight, AC working, PW, PDL, Sunroof, etc
spare tire and jack were removed
running on 24.5-8-15 MT ET Drags on the rear

http://www.phatka-t.com/projectcars.htm

I watched the videos and got a small look under the hood in the dyno vids. Do you have any under hood pictures?

BTW that things is bad ass, good work on the KA-T

Maeda
10-24-2004, 11:29 AM
Another believer. =)

IvanAtSPRacing
10-24-2004, 11:50 AM
Thanks guys. All the pictures on the web page are of either Heath & Keith's S13 or my S14. http://www.phatka-t.com/s13manifold.htm shows some of the beginning stages of the build before coatings and such. I have been lazy and didnt really get many pics of the completed setup. http://www.phatka-t.com/s13intercooler.htm shows the intecooer setup prior to powder coating. Their car is back at the shop after breaking ring lands on the second bone stock motor. I should have the block, crank, head, rods, and pistons back from the machine shop this week some time and I will be building that motor and getting it installed. I will get some good pictures for sure this time and get the web page updated. I will also be putting larger injectors in, a Mitsu ballast resistor pack, and turning the boost up to see what this motor can make. I am shooting for around 500whp and hope to knock down a 10 sec time slip.

DMC
10-24-2004, 01:31 PM
16.6 @ 83.4 mph stock sohc 140k miles f/b full weight

hybrid_eg
10-24-2004, 01:55 PM
never draged mine with the stock T25.. but it felt decent i'd say... i had many cars in the past so i wasnt too impressed with a performance of the small t25.. but ran a friend the other day with an 02 m3.. had 11lbs.. and took him of the line till 4th gear when we had to shut it down by half a car.. never was even able to pull on me. Now the car has a 2871 stock boost is 10psi.. tuned it yesterday to set a/f ratio and went as high as 18psi.. sound pretty scary.. hopefully that will be some 11's if i do go the track and can hook up..

i-love-my-s14
10-24-2004, 07:57 PM
i ran a 14.80 at 99mph. with a s14 sr, with downpipe exhaust and intercooler. But i have stock tires which equals no traction, and just like you bing i have been told that with my trap speed i should have a lower time.

duey
10-25-2004, 08:03 AM
12.3 is fast, dont get me wrong, and NO offense to duey , that car is badass, but a lot of other cars would be going faster than 111mph running that same time... i think its just that SR's are all down low, maybe its just the T25? thats why i want more people to post there times a mods...


uhm according to some research i've done [email protected] is about the average time i should be running with that trap speed. btw my max rwhp is at 5k so it's not like it's really down that low.

s13dan
10-25-2004, 02:30 PM
maybe i was shifting really bad... cuz 13.7 at 94 seems weak to me... but thats my car, all im saying is that iv seen a number of other car with 5-10mph trap speed than that at around the same 1/4 mile time.. hell i wish i could run a 12.3 @ 111mph. I have no tach... maybe i should get mine fixed... i had a SOHC do i have to replace it or is there an adapter to make it read millivolts.

240silvia
10-25-2004, 05:30 PM
When I had my SR I raced a B18 swapped civic that ran a 13.9 and I beat him by about 4-5 cars... soooo, mid 13's I'm guessing. Never ran the 1/4, hate myself for it, but, just some info for ya.....

duey
10-26-2004, 07:39 AM
maybe i was shifting really bad... cuz 13.7 at 94 seems weak to me... but thats my car, all im saying is that iv seen a number of other car with 5-10mph trap speed than that at around the same 1/4 mile time.. hell i wish i could run a 12.3 @ 111mph. I have no tach... maybe i should get mine fixed... i had a SOHC do i have to replace it or is there an adapter to make it read millivolts.

Even IF someone runs the same times as you do doesn't mean your car isn't going fast, you MUST look at the whole timeslip to see if the person knows how to drive or not. For instance, if your car and another car runs 13.7, and yours pulls a 2.0 60' @94mph, and the other guy does a 2.5 @105mph, that means he fucked up, NOT that your car has "no balls" up top. This was the case when i was racing my dyno guys 03 M5, both of us were running 13.2-13.4 but my mph was 111 (2.4 60') and his was 108 (2.1 60'), when i got my slicks and lsd i finally ran my 12.3 (1.7 60').

Basically you can't look at MPH alone, alot of other factors come into play.

s13dan
10-26-2004, 10:47 AM
Thats wierd... it seems that if a person has a better launch the car would have more momentum and would have a higher 1/4 speed... but you right cuz now that i looked at it i hit 98mph once....
And did the LSD help alot with launches? cuz 1.7 60 is crazy... AWD territory..

duey
10-26-2004, 02:49 PM
LSD and street slicks helped me BIGTIME. Lets put it this way, BEFORE i put my tires/lsd on i was only running low-mid 13's @108mph, once the tires/lsd were installed i now pull low 12's @111. Those two parts were well worth EVERY penny i spent on them.