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s13dan · 10-22-2004, 11:48 PM

Just wondering what kinda numbers we got out there... and mods too
My best time was [email protected]
Redtop. Greddy FMIC & hard pipe kit, full exhaust, intake, 240sx MAF.

S13Dreamin · 10-23-2004, 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13dan

Just wondering what kinda numbers we got out there... and mods too
My best time was [email protected]
Redtop. Greddy FMIC & hard pipe kit, full exhaust, intake, 240sx MAF.

What PSI were you running?

I don't have a 240, but in my B13 Sentra w/ T28 I would have probably been in the 12s, but I have no proof (never made it to the track before the move to FL, but people with similar mods have hit mid-high 12s with ease).

That is with 10-13psi, 3" turbo back, spearco FMIC, Z32 MAF, JWT ECU, Fidanza 9lb Flywheel, MSD 50lb inj, UR crank pulley, and a few other things...

Josh

P.S. I hate being on here talking about my B13, but hey, its all I have to talk about at this point

s13dan · 10-23-2004, 12:03 AM

stock 8 psi, and the car has never ben tuned since the swap.... i need a better fuel pump cuz i have a stock 240 fuel pump...

S13Dreamin · 10-23-2004, 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13dan

stock 8 psi, and the car has never ben tuned since the swap.... i need a better fuel pump cuz i have a stock 240 fuel pump...

From what I have seen/read, the 240 pump could be OK at stock boost depending on its condition, but it is always wise to upgrade that ASAP.

What was your 60'? R/T?

Josh

s13dan · 10-23-2004, 12:22 AM

on my 13.78 run i had a 2.01 60 and a .590 reaction, but i had a stock clutch then and dry rotted tires so i could slip the clutch now i have a 6 puck, stage 3 pressure plate and its really hard to slip... i havnt run my car since the new clutch set up and my new falkens.. and im ganna get a supra fuel pump i think cuz my friend works at O,rielys(southwest autoparts store) and can get it at cost but i dunno how big a supra pump is, i heard same as a walbro 255.

S13Dreamin · 10-23-2004, 12:48 AM

I am pretty sure the Supra pump is 290lph, and usually a bit more expensive (dont know what they are at cost, maybe cheaper than a walbro) than a Walbro.

The times seem pretty good especially under those conditions. Im sure you could knock a couple tenths off with some tuning and whatnot.

Josh

*fliprayzin240sx* · 10-23-2004, 05:10 AM

Wow...13.7 at stock boost? Best times ive seen time wise is 12.8 stock T25/injectors tuned with HKS standalone 14 psi.

duey · 10-23-2004, 07:53 AM

i ran [email protected] 2 weeks ago with my setup.

(specs on my cardomain site)

s13dan · 10-23-2004, 12:31 PM

It seems that SR's dont have any balls up top... My freind has a turbo RSX and he ran a 13.9 @ 104, and anothe freind of mine has an all motor prelude and he ran a 14.5 @ 99.

and a 290 pump.. thats to big does anyone know what a stock 300Z TT pump is??

Id- · 10-23-2004, 08:04 PM

i dont think a supratt pump is a 290; its like a walbro 255, it is more efficient in some areas and some areas it isnt... cant remember the specifics...
i THINK the Z32TT pump is a 290 though...

as far as not having balls up top; check out duey's car that just posted

111mph traps... thats way more balls than the little times you just posted

*Vatche* · 10-23-2004, 08:17 PM

i ran a 14.6 with a stock sr and stock clutch shitty tires and stock boost with catback....side mount etc.... then i did all my mods, i should run mid to low 13's but i still need better tires and an lsd

and alot of other things but thats what i run now

s13dan · 10-23-2004, 11:57 PM

12.3 is fast, dont get me wrong, and NO offense to duey , that car is badass, but a lot of other cars would be going faster than 111mph running that same time... i think its just that SR's are all down low, maybe its just the T25? thats why i want more people to post there times a mods...

Touring240 · 10-24-2004, 12:17 AM

12.3 @ 111mph thats fucking amazing
I run 12.8 @ 107 mph with s14 turbo on a red top. dynoed at 266whp

Muzzy · 10-24-2004, 12:24 AM

i guess i suk....15.5 at 92.3 stock boost....stock clutch....and scilencer in exhaust.

bing · 10-24-2004, 12:36 AM

on my first night ever on the track i did a 14.07 at 101.01

red top, T25, unknown boost (est. 10-12psi) untuned SAFC, 6 pucker, full 3" except for a 2.5 cat that i havent been able to swap out yet.

i've been told that the trap speed is good for a much lower time.

i bogged several launches, call it nervousness....

i figured that was pretty good for a base run, and i know i can hit the high 13's with some tuning and practice.

suggestions?

Id- · 10-24-2004, 01:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13dan

12.3 is fast, dont get me wrong, and NO offense to duey , that car is badass, but a lot of other cars would be going faster than 111mph running that same time... i think its just that SR's are all down low, maybe its just the T25? thats why i want more people to post there times a mods...

oh; all you look at is 1/4 mile times

dude thats with a STOCK TURBO... there are PLENTY of turbos that will BOLTON in that stock location and produce far more power... GTIR turbod cars generally run in the 115mph range... GT25R and other GT variants can run 120mph+
how fast do you want to go? we're just talking T25-flanged turbos here... if you start getting into top-mount turbos, you're looking at WAY more power...

running 111mph on a little stock T25 w/o nitrous is MOVIN... oh and i'm sure duey used slicks or cheaters for a 12.3 at 111...

you should go ride in a upgraded-turbo SR20 car, my friend's GTIR-turbo S13 is pretty quick

pulled just fine to redline heh

nissandr1ft · 10-24-2004, 10:07 AM

[email protected] 86.7mph, Pretty much stock, header,and exhaust w sub in trunk.

S13Dreamin · 10-24-2004, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Id-

i dont think a supratt pump is a 290; its like a walbro 255, it is more efficient in some areas and some areas it isnt... cant remember the specifics...
i THINK the Z32TT pump is a 290 though...

300zx is 255lph, a lot of the B-chassis guys use them with their DET swaps. Here are some specs on the SupraTT pump:

260 lph @ 43 psi; 220 lph @ 58 psi; @ 12 V 1.
290 lph @ 43 psi; 260 lph @ 58 psi; @ 14 V 1.

Josh

IvanAtSPRacing · 10-24-2004, 11:06 AM

11.71 @118.54 16psi boost

Bone stock 115,500 mile KA with PK turbo kit, PK intercooler kit, PK fuel system, AEM EMS.

91 hatch, full weight, AC working, PW, PDL, Sunroof, etc
spare tire and jack were removed
running on 24.5-8-15 MT ET Drags on the rear

http://www.phatka-t.com/projectcars.htm

Ian · 10-24-2004, 11:14 AM

wow, i swear, the KA-T is volatile compared to SR crap i've seen. I'm doin a KA turbo next 240 project i do. I've yet to run my car at the track, but w/ 2.5" exhaust, FMIC, BOV, Boost Controller, fuel pump and year old fuel (car sat for a long time) i dynoed 210 whp at 8 psi

now i've got all the exhaust goodies 3" to the bumper, 14 psi, hopefully i can pull off mid-high 13's at the least

IvanAtSPRacing · 10-24-2004, 11:22 AM

This paticular car dynoed 305 whp on 10psi of boost and 405 whp 409 TQ on 16psi boost.

Aything much more then 400whp the ring lands on the stock KA pistons crack. I am currently building a forged piston motor with strengthened stock rods to see how much HP I can get out of the stock long block plus pistons.

Everything on the KA seems to have been overbuilt or with boost in mind except for the pistons. I was so impressed with this motor / car, I decided to build an all out drag race car with the KA motor which can also been seen at the link above.

S13Dreamin · 10-24-2004, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IvanAtSPRacing

11.71 @118.54 16psi boost

Bone stock 115,500 mile KA with PK turbo kit, PK intercooler kit, PK fuel system, AEM EMS.

91 hatch, full weight, AC working, PW, PDL, Sunroof, etc
spare tire and jack were removed
running on 24.5-8-15 MT ET Drags on the rear

http://www.phatka-t.com/projectcars.htm

I watched the videos and got a small look under the hood in the dyno vids. Do you have any under hood pictures?

BTW that things is bad ass, good work on the KA-T

Maeda · 10-24-2004, 11:29 AM

Another believer. =)

IvanAtSPRacing · 10-24-2004, 11:50 AM

Thanks guys. All the pictures on the web page are of either Heath & Keith's S13 or my S14. http://www.phatka-t.com/s13manifold.htm shows some of the beginning stages of the build before coatings and such. I have been lazy and didnt really get many pics of the completed setup. http://www.phatka-t.com/s13intercooler.htm shows the intecooer setup prior to powder coating. Their car is back at the shop after breaking ring lands on the second bone stock motor. I should have the block, crank, head, rods, and pistons back from the machine shop this week some time and I will be building that motor and getting it installed. I will get some good pictures for sure this time and get the web page updated. I will also be putting larger injectors in, a Mitsu ballast resistor pack, and turning the boost up to see what this motor can make. I am shooting for around 500whp and hope to knock down a 10 sec time slip.

DMC · 10-24-2004, 01:31 PM

16.6 @ 83.4 mph stock sohc 140k miles f/b full weight

hybrid_eg · 10-24-2004, 01:55 PM

never draged mine with the stock T25.. but it felt decent i'd say... i had many cars in the past so i wasnt too impressed with a performance of the small t25.. but ran a friend the other day with an 02 m3.. had 11lbs.. and took him of the line till 4th gear when we had to shut it down by half a car.. never was even able to pull on me. Now the car has a 2871 stock boost is 10psi.. tuned it yesterday to set a/f ratio and went as high as 18psi.. sound pretty scary.. hopefully that will be some 11's if i do go the track and can hook up..

i-love-my-s14 · 10-24-2004, 07:57 PM

i ran a 14.80 at 99mph. with a s14 sr, with downpipe exhaust and intercooler. But i have stock tires which equals no traction, and just like you bing i have been told that with my trap speed i should have a lower time.

duey · 10-25-2004, 08:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by s13dan

12.3 is fast, dont get me wrong, and NO offense to duey , that car is badass, but a lot of other cars would be going faster than 111mph running that same time... i think its just that SR's are all down low, maybe its just the T25? thats why i want more people to post there times a mods...

uhm according to some research i've done [email protected] is about the average time i should be running with that trap speed. btw my max rwhp is at 5k so it's not like it's really down that low.

s13dan · 10-25-2004, 02:30 PM

maybe i was shifting really bad... cuz 13.7 at 94 seems weak to me... but thats my car, all im saying is that iv seen a number of other car with 5-10mph trap speed than that at around the same 1/4 mile time.. hell i wish i could run a 12.3 @ 111mph. I have no tach... maybe i should get mine fixed... i had a SOHC do i have to replace it or is there an adapter to make it read millivolts.

240silvia · 10-25-2004, 05:30 PM

When I had my SR I raced a B18 swapped civic that ran a 13.9 and I beat him by about 4-5 cars... soooo, mid 13's I'm guessing. Never ran the 1/4, hate myself for it, but, just some info for ya.....

10-22-2004, 11:48 PM	#1
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	1\4 Mile Times Just wondering what kinda numbers we got out there... and mods too My best time was [email protected] Redtop. Greddy FMIC & hard pipe kit, full exhaust, intake, 240sx MAF. __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily

10-23-2004, 12:03 AM	#3
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	stock 8 psi, and the car has never ben tuned since the swap.... i need a better fuel pump cuz i have a stock 240 fuel pump... __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily

10-23-2004, 12:22 AM	#5
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	on my 13.78 run i had a 2.01 60 and a .590 reaction, but i had a stock clutch then and dry rotted tires so i could slip the clutch now i have a 6 puck, stage 3 pressure plate and its really hard to slip... i havnt run my car since the new clutch set up and my new falkens.. and im ganna get a supra fuel pump i think cuz my friend works at O,rielys(southwest autoparts store) and can get it at cost but i dunno how big a supra pump is, i heard same as a walbro 255. __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily

10-23-2004, 05:10 AM	#7
fliprayzin240sx Man w/ CTSV & a Car Seat Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Tampa Posts: 17,998 Trader Rating: (19) Rides Gallery: fliprayzin240sx Feedback Score: 19 reviews	Wow...13.7 at stock boost? Best times ive seen time wise is 12.8 stock T25/injectors tuned with HKS standalone 14 psi. __________________ If you think Zilvia has too many assholes... CLICK HERE!!!

10-23-2004, 07:53 AM	#8
duey Leaky Injector Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: MA Age: 42 Posts: 124 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i ran [email protected] 2 weeks ago with my setup. (specs on my cardomain site) __________________ http://members.cardomain.com/duey170 [email protected] - basic mods/STOCK t25

10-23-2004, 12:48 AM	#6
S13Dreamin Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Clermont, FL Posts: 22 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	I am pretty sure the Supra pump is 290lph, and usually a bit more expensive (dont know what they are at cost, maybe cheaper than a walbro) than a Walbro. The times seem pretty good especially under those conditions. Im sure you could knock a couple tenths off with some tuning and whatnot. Josh

10-23-2004, 12:31 PM	#9
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	It seems that SR's dont have any balls up top... My freind has a turbo RSX and he ran a 13.9 @ 104, and anothe freind of mine has an all motor prelude and he ran a 14.5 @ 99. and a 290 pump.. thats to big does anyone know what a stock 300Z TT pump is?? __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily

10-23-2004, 08:04 PM	#10
Id- Zilvia Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Hell on Earth Age: 40 Posts: 220 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i dont think a supratt pump is a 290; its like a walbro 255, it is more efficient in some areas and some areas it isnt... cant remember the specifics... i THINK the Z32TT pump is a 290 though... as far as not having balls up top; check out duey's car that just posted 111mph traps... thats way more balls than the little times you just posted __________________ 95 Lexus SC300 5-speed -DD pimp car 92 Nissan 240sx base coupe -clean KA24DE swapped in -GTIR T28 -Big FMIC -565cc STi Injectors w/ Z32 MAF -J30 VLSD w/ subframe spacers -RPS Max clutch -3" turboback -PLMS Daughterboard on modded ECU

10-23-2004, 11:57 PM	#12
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	12.3 is fast, dont get me wrong, and NO offense to duey , that car is badass, but a lot of other cars would be going faster than 111mph running that same time... i think its just that SR's are all down low, maybe its just the T25? thats why i want more people to post there times a mods... __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily

10-24-2004, 12:17 AM	#13
Touring240 Zilvia Junkie Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Victoria BC Posts: 432 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	12.3 @ 111mph thats fucking amazing I run 12.8 @ 107 mph with s14 turbo on a red top. dynoed at 266whp

10-24-2004, 12:24 AM	#14
Muzzy Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: TX Posts: 1,555 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i guess i suk....15.5 at 92.3 stock boost....stock clutch....and scilencer in exhaust. __________________ lemme have a dollar

10-24-2004, 12:36 AM	#15
bing Post Whore! Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ontario canada Posts: 2,698 Trader Rating: (21) Feedback Score: 21 reviews	on my first night ever on the track i did a 14.07 at 101.01 red top, T25, unknown boost (est. 10-12psi) untuned SAFC, 6 pucker, full 3" except for a 2.5 cat that i havent been able to swap out yet. i've been told that the trap speed is good for a much lower time. i bogged several launches, call it nervousness.... i figured that was pretty good for a base run, and i know i can hit the high 13's with some tuning and practice. suggestions? __________________ www.son240sx.org /// www.nyspeed.com

10-24-2004, 10:07 AM	#17
nissandr1ft Zilvia Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Clayton, NC Age: 38 Posts: 284 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	[email protected] 86.7mph, Pretty much stock, header,and exhaust w sub in trunk. __________________ ------------------------- www.carolinanissans.com -------------------------

10-24-2004, 11:06 AM	#19
IvanAtSPRacing Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	11.71 @118.54 16psi boost Bone stock 115,500 mile KA with PK turbo kit, PK intercooler kit, PK fuel system, AEM EMS. 91 hatch, full weight, AC working, PW, PDL, Sunroof, etc spare tire and jack were removed running on 24.5-8-15 MT ET Drags on the rear http://www.phatka-t.com/projectcars.htm __________________ Ivan www.PhatKA-T.com www.sound-performance.com

10-24-2004, 11:14 AM	#20
Ian Post Whore! Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: i'm gonna get INSIDE your face Age: 34 Posts: 3,658 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	wow, i swear, the KA-T is volatile compared to SR crap i've seen. I'm doin a KA turbo next 240 project i do. I've yet to run my car at the track, but w/ 2.5" exhaust, FMIC, BOV, Boost Controller, fuel pump and year old fuel (car sat for a long time) i dynoed 210 whp at 8 psi now i've got all the exhaust goodies 3" to the bumper, 14 psi, hopefully i can pull off mid-high 13's at the least

10-24-2004, 11:22 AM	#21
IvanAtSPRacing Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	This paticular car dynoed 305 whp on 10psi of boost and 405 whp 409 TQ on 16psi boost. Aything much more then 400whp the ring lands on the stock KA pistons crack. I am currently building a forged piston motor with strengthened stock rods to see how much HP I can get out of the stock long block plus pistons. Everything on the KA seems to have been overbuilt or with boost in mind except for the pistons. I was so impressed with this motor / car, I decided to build an all out drag race car with the KA motor which can also been seen at the link above. __________________ Ivan www.PhatKA-T.com www.sound-performance.com

10-24-2004, 11:29 AM	#23
Maeda Nissanaholic! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Camp Snake Bite, CA RIP Posts: 2,356 Trader Rating: (0) Rides Gallery: Maeda Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Another believer. =) __________________

10-24-2004, 11:50 AM	#24
IvanAtSPRacing Leaky Injector Join Date: May 2004 Location: Chicagoland Posts: 131 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	Thanks guys. All the pictures on the web page are of either Heath & Keith's S13 or my S14. http://www.phatka-t.com/s13manifold.htm shows some of the beginning stages of the build before coatings and such. I have been lazy and didnt really get many pics of the completed setup. http://www.phatka-t.com/s13intercooler.htm shows the intecooer setup prior to powder coating. Their car is back at the shop after breaking ring lands on the second bone stock motor. I should have the block, crank, head, rods, and pistons back from the machine shop this week some time and I will be building that motor and getting it installed. I will get some good pictures for sure this time and get the web page updated. I will also be putting larger injectors in, a Mitsu ballast resistor pack, and turning the boost up to see what this motor can make. I am shooting for around 500whp and hope to knock down a 10 sec time slip. __________________ Ivan www.PhatKA-T.com www.sound-performance.com

10-24-2004, 01:31 PM	#25
DMC Zilvia Addict Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Chesapeake, Va Posts: 609 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	16.6 @ 83.4 mph stock sohc 140k miles f/b full weight

10-24-2004, 01:55 PM	#26
hybrid_eg Zilvia Addict Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: SoCal Posts: 801 Trader Rating: (19) Feedback Score: 19 reviews	never draged mine with the stock T25.. but it felt decent i'd say... i had many cars in the past so i wasnt too impressed with a performance of the small t25.. but ran a friend the other day with an 02 m3.. had 11lbs.. and took him of the line till 4th gear when we had to shut it down by half a car.. never was even able to pull on me. Now the car has a 2871 stock boost is 10psi.. tuned it yesterday to set a/f ratio and went as high as 18psi.. sound pretty scary.. hopefully that will be some 11's if i do go the track and can hook up..

10-24-2004, 07:57 PM	#27
i-love-my-s14 Zilvia Member Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Florida Age: 35 Posts: 194 Trader Rating: (0) Feedback Score: 0 reviews	i ran a 14.80 at 99mph. with a s14 sr, with downpipe exhaust and intercooler. But i have stock tires which equals no traction, and just like you bing i have been told that with my trap speed i should have a lower time. __________________

10-25-2004, 02:30 PM	#29
s13dan Zilvia FREAK! Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Springfield, Mo Posts: 1,519 Trader Rating: (2) Feedback Score: 2 reviews	maybe i was shifting really bad... cuz 13.7 at 94 seems weak to me... but thats my car, all im saying is that iv seen a number of other car with 5-10mph trap speed than that at around the same 1/4 mile time.. hell i wish i could run a 12.3 @ 111mph. I have no tach... maybe i should get mine fixed... i had a SOHC do i have to replace it or is there an adapter to make it read millivolts. __________________ 89 240sx hatch #933-the hot rod 91 240sx coupe #131,603-the daily

10-25-2004, 05:30 PM	#30
240silvia Nissanaholic! Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Wilmington NC Age: 36 Posts: 2,060 Trader Rating: (3) Feedback Score: 3 reviews	When I had my SR I raced a B18 swapped civic that ran a 13.9 and I beat him by about 4-5 cars... soooo, mid 13's I'm guessing. Never ran the 1/4, hate myself for it, but, just some info for ya.....

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