Donald Trump For President

[justinbyrant]

im generally a very calm person, I keep my cool in pretty much every situation I have ever been in, I worked very hard to be a level headed member of society so try to understand, this post gives me anxiety, its a foreign feeling but I cant understand how so many americans think its ok for all this to be happening, how can so many of you look at facts and not see a problem?

[zombiewolf513]

the country currently relies on the government as a crutch, without free trade agreements and trade acts the majority of American businesses would fail, those agreements keep places like walmart in power, places like walmart keep money flowing into political places which allows them to do whatever they want like keeping minimum wage down, preventing the government from forcing major businesses from providing health care and any of the multitude of things they should be doing, as such we rely on those places which rely on the government the system is so fucked up and literally no one understands it and its driving us into the ground, this country is FAILING it has been for almost 2 decades, we are going downhill fast and we keep hitting the gas, there is no ramp at the bottom, we aren't gonna fly to the top of the next hill, we are almost vertical now, falling and we will hit the bottom and stop because everyone thinks its ok for a company like walmart to make 100 billion + a YEAR then ask for tax breaks and everyone just says "oh well they worked for that money hur de dur" 95% of the people in this country will sit back and ignore it all till its to late and we have hit bottom then wonder how WE let this happen

Having a broken, slow and incompetent government intervene more won't make things better. Government restriction and taking from industries/companies is only going to worsen things for the Americans relying on them for a paycheck.

[justinbyrant]

Having a broken, slow and incompetent government intervene more won't make things better. Government restriction and taking from industries/companies is only going to worsen things for the Americans relying on them for a paycheck.

Thats why a move towards socialism must be made historically socialist movements have been initiated with a goverment overthrow, we need to stand up and say enough the entire system needs scraped, everyone in office needs thrown out and replaced, the whole system needs wiped clean and replaced, i would say at least 90% of americans dont have the stomach for that though

[zombiewolf513]

so vote donald trump

[kashira kureijii]

you also forgot to tell your kid about all the things he would get for that one measly worm, you forgot to tell him that he would need less worms to live the same in the future, and that he would be able to see the doctor and go to school, and all the other super nice awesome things he could get for that one worm

parasite, instead of thinking some deus ex machina (political party) is gonna save you from all that shit, why not be the one who takes or earns. You're the type of person who blames all the world's problems on the "system", when the problem is you . this is egalitarian bullshit
there will always be a controlling entity, even if government or corporations didn't exist, greater power would still exist in a solar flare or the black hole that will eventually consume the entire universe,etc. Without ambition you are nothing, you will fade, just like all other things on this planet.

spoken like a true hipster from Oregon fam

Without Pain, Without suffering, we would have nothing.
To each according to his own merits.
Without rich, poor cannot exist and vice versa. there must always be opposites.
Your entire existence is to make a mark on history, to do something important or be something useful, not wish all man were equal in his inability


I feel like if we got rid of Human welfare/Social security, we would save about 1 trillion of the national budget with which to pay off the national debt. So in about 15 years we would be debt free again.

[zombiewolf513]

I really cant get onboard with the idea that people dont need to be fully responsible for themselves, and that the government should have to make up the difference.

[feito]

The hell with socialism. No reason in this country to be extremely poor, not in this country where there are job opportunities even for the disabled. Those who are extremely poor is because of their poor decisions. I myself am not extremely poor, but I might be right there in lower working class, but I know why, and do not expect anything for free, and I know the opportunities are out there. Then FBHO comes and takes a good chunk of my money at the end of the year for no good reason.
Though it is a shame these two are our only two options, because our system is broken and I honestly dont think either one will do anything about it. Hillary however, shouldnt even be legally illegible to run for president, so that leaves us with only one option. We're fucked...

[STR8 H8N]

china has grown to one of the strongest economies in the world under socialism, the social rights issues and human rights issues in china have absolutely nothing to do with the socialist process, it has to do with Marxism and power plays

:tweak::tweak::tweak:

[dudermagee]

another fun example of American corporation greed

do some research on phone companies, at&t, Verizon, century link and all of their subsidiaries are all owned by the bell corporation which split into the "the 7 baby bells" (all still owned by the same people and the profits go to the same place) in 1984 after a court ruling against monopolies however at&t Verizon and century link absorbed the other 4 in the following years, these 3 companies also bought our of founded multiple other massive monopoly companies such as Comcast, basically every thing in the world that has to do with telephones of any kind, land lines, cell phones, internet, atms, card machines, all controlled and owned by what was originally the bell corp, the only company not outright owned is sprint, but most of its stock is owned by the bell corp in one form or another, the existence of sprint serves one purpose, to comply with any monopoly laws, that's it, now the kicker, all these companies are owned by the same corporation so why are they competing against each other? to drive prices up based on nothing, sole purpose, its amazing the things you find when you look.

now the kicker, most of the rest of the world has much better options, they are fewer, smaller, and cheaper, because???????? you guessed it, socialism, massive corporation style companies that are forced to compete fairly with other local smaller companies lose every single time, without our government protecting massive businesses they wouldn't exist, at least not on the level they are on, attempts are made every year to start phone companies, internet providers, cable providers, all kinds of services, they last a few months tops before a major corp notices and shuts them down



Complains about companies having a monopoly, wants government to have monopoly instead.

[justinbyrant]

why are all of you people under the impression that the current governmental system would remain in place? multiple times in this thread there have been mentions of giving the government all the power, the point is to take the power from the government, use them as a medium and to pass laws that actually help people instead of stripping rights the ONLY way to do that at this point is to scrap the whole system and start over new, even if we kept the actual system in place and removed every single person right down to mayors of individual towns and replaced them all there would still be problems but not as bad as what we are heading towards

[justinbyrant]

parasite, instead of thinking some deus ex machina (political party) is gonna save you from all that shit, why not be the one who takes or earns. You're the type of person who blames all the world's problems on the "system", when the problem is you . this is egalitarian bullshit
there will always be a controlling entity, even if government or corporations didn't exist, greater power would still exist in a solar flare or the black hole that will eventually consume the entire universe,etc. Without ambition you are nothing, you will fade, just like all other things on this planet.

spoken like a true hipster from Oregon fam

Without Pain, Without suffering, we would have nothing.
To each according to his own merits.
Without rich, poor cannot exist and vice versa. there must always be opposites.
Your entire existence is to make a mark on history, to do something important or be something useful, not wish all man were equal in his inability


I feel like if we got rid of Human welfare/Social security, we would save about 1 trillion of the national budget with which to pay off the national debt. So in about 15 years we would be debt free again.

you want to get rid of social security? social security and welfare are dwarfed by the tax cuts we give only the top 100 earners in the country, if every billionaire in America was taxed without loopholes and finding breaks, the rest of America could stop paying taxes completely and the government would actually collect more money in taxes from those 540 something American billionaires than from the rest of the 320 million citizens of this country, you really think social security and welfare is the problem? about 500 billion is spent on welfare a year, we give over a trillion in tax cuts to the wealthy through loopholes and exploites, hmmmm I wonder which is more detrimental to America, social services for the poor people who keep us fed and actually alive, or the billionares running corporations that keep us poor

your a god damn fool if you think everyone in America can be "the one who takes" what the fuck do you think would happen if everyone in America, all 320 million people said "there is no where to go working in any social service at all so lets all quit our jobs and become ceos, and managers and lets all go do the ambitious jobs" we would all fucking starve that's what, this is what I mean about the American dream being bullshit, its not sustainable, this country cannot survive with 320 million people all joining the American dream.

we need the lower class it has to be there but it has to be sustainable, a classless society is the only way for it to be sustainable, a society where working at mccdonalds isn't considered a shit job, by all means no skill labor means less money im not trying to say minimum wage workers should get paid as much as skilled specialized work but those people need something to work for, what incentive do they have to work at all if minimum wage isn't enough to support a family? welfare is a hard system to work with, I agree there are a lot of flaws with a lot of our welfare systems but saying fuck those people they are just lazy is a bullshit excuse, there are only so many hours in a day, a lot of these people work 2 or 3 jobs and work harder than a lot of middle class citizens and still cant feed their families, that's not laziness that's a society that has failed its people, you cant say a person who works 62 hours a week is lazy just because they aren't smart enough to learn how to become a doctor, if those people had something to actually work for everything would be infinitely better, right now they have nothing, a lot of them could actually quit their jobs and just go outright on welfare and end up with more money at the end of the day, they might as well right? "be the one who takes" remember, that means taking what you can get to get ahead, that includes welfare working zero hours a week compared to going hungry working 60 hours a week, enough people do this and we have a massive collapse, those people are the people that do the jobs we wont, im never going to go back to minimum wage, I know to much, I have specialized skills and Im smart, I have no need to go back and I never will, if to many people like me do that and to many people who cant feed their familys work 20 hours of overtime a week quit their jobs for better benefits then society will collapse

do you know what Marxism is? look into it and the explanations on how capitalism is unsustainable, it literally collapses under its own weight, the upper class takes and takes and takes, and the lower class sinks lower and lower, the gap widens until the lower class can no longer support the upper class, once that happens everything breaks down, riots start, people start dying, governments are overthrown and a switch to socialism is almost always the end result, a lot of times it ends there socialism takes hold and flourishes, the more bloody conflicts that spur the change usually give rise to a socialist dictator and though the country stays socialist for a time eventually that dictator takes a totalitarian rule and eventually drives the country into the ground. capitalism seems to be the only example in history of people thinking its a good idea to build a massive structure on a weak foundation, you cant stand the money pyramid upside down, it wont be long before it tips

a less bloody conflict with a easy transition is what we need but we have let this capitalist influence go so far unchallenged the united states will never ever see an easy change, as much as it pains me to say it, trump is the answer, trump is the epitome of upper class entitlement, I honest to god hope he becomes president, he will be the final push, the final straw to the actual collapse of the system, not intentionally of coarse but if there is anyone out there who will be the final destruction of the government, its him, I just hope I can get out of the country before it happens

[zombiewolf513]

... if every billionaire in America was taxed without loopholes and finding breaks, the rest of America could stop paying taxes completely ...

As an American billionaire, I have the right to NOT pay your share of taxes.

capitalism seems to be the only example in history of people thinking its a good idea to build a massive structure on a weak foundation, you cant stand the money pyramid upside down, it wont be long before it tips


You mean sorta like how people think the country currently operates with such abundance that it can switch to socialism and support a massive amount of freeloaders while the successful companies do all the heavy lifting and reap no rewards?

[STR8 H8N]

As a billionaire, I have the right to NOT pay your share of taxes.

but then ther would never be billionaires ?

[zombiewolf513]

we need the lower class it has to be there but it has to be sustainable, a classless society is the only way for it to be sustainable, a society where working at mccdonalds isn't considered a shit job, by all means no skill labor means less money im not trying to say minimum wage workers should get paid as much as skilled specialized work but those people need something to work for, what incentive do they have to work at all if minimum wage isn't enough to support a family?

The lowest paid McDonalds job IS a shit job. its mindless and requires little to no skill to make that garbage. They already do have something to motivate them to do bigger things... like a shitty job with a shitty paycheck that isn't for adults to consider a career.

Survival of the fittest. If you don't want to eat just ants and berries, you gotta go hunt something bigger. More money and better lifestyles take decades of individual focus and dedication. It doesn't just happen for most people.

What do people have to motivate them to make billions if theyre just going to have it taken away? Why dedicate yourself and take risks starting a business when in the end you can't do with it as you please?

It's not that the government/economic system doesn't have problems, but because socialism is a possible solution doesn't mean it is the solution.

[justinbyrant]

As an American billionaire, I have the right to NOT pay your share of taxes.



You mean sorta like how people think the country currently operates with such abundance that it can switch to socialism and support a massive amount of freeloaders while the successful companies do all the heavy lifting and reap no rewards?

does that give you the right to not pay your own share of taxes? finding a loophole and getting tax breaks because you are rich does is bullshit, no one is asking the wealthy to pay anyone elses taxes we are asking them to pay their own share of taxes which they don't, I wasn't saying the rich should be taxed so the rest of us could stop paying I was just pointing out that the rich save or get back more money in tax breaks than 320 million people pay in taxes, yet here we are bitching about welfare which is a much smaller number, you wanna get the country out of debt, use the people who put us in debt in the first place, politicians and the rich.

you people clearly have no idea how socialism works, socialism makes a switch from allowing large companies to rape our economy, socialism does not work with freeloaders, you all think everyone will just get lazy in a socialist economy? then why does almost every single socialist economy have a higher employment rate than America? socialism relies on a high work force it cannot work with lazy people, and super big successful businesses will not pay for everything because they wont exist, instead of one large company having 3 massive stores in every town instead every town will have 6 or 7 or 8 or 15 separate successful people running their own successful version of that company employing people for what they are worth because small businesses focus on quality not shoving product down our throats

and yes the lowest paid mccdonalds job is shit very true as I stated that doesn't mean those people don't have a right to live, explain this to me, fast food relies on minimum wage workers yes? so if fast food goes even farther down the toilet than it already is to the point where working fast food will not allow you to live, you literally cannot afford to rent a studio apartment and pay for food (its on its way) what happens then? what do we do if the majority of the population works jobs that don't pay enough for them to survive, what happens when those people starve to death or lose their home and get fired for not being able to take a shower and stay clean, who then serves our food? what happens when that graduates to all of the service industry? you all think its ok to pay people nothing and say "well that's not a job you should make a career" or "well its a shit job so you deserve to not be paid anything for it" what do we do when those people don't and cant exist anymore?

rather than having mccdonalds, burger king, taco bell, wendys, arbys, jack in the box and all the other shit food chains making garbage (your words) would you rather not have a local company making you good food, not garbage, at a competitive cheap price, something that's not necessarily good for you but isn't complete fucking garbage? ask yourself why a salad at any major fast food chain costs upwards of $6 but you can buy a shitty little burger that's just as filling with just as much material and more ingredients for $.99, fat, slow, complacent people will never fight back, that's why.

people don't need to be motivated to make billions, that's fucking grossly obscenely greedy and useless, I want to make a healthy living, comfortable, with the ability to buy what I want and do what I want in a country that isn't a complete shithole because my greed does not allow for anyone else to prosper, you don't need to be a billionaire for that, 500k-1m a year depending on the area you live is more than enough for that and easily obtainable

and your right socialism may not be THE answer but its sure as shit a better answer

[kashira kureijii]

http://i.imgur.com/U9IEwVz.png


Something, Something of Opression

Which is why the rich pay 50%+ of all income tax revenue this country receives?, and income tax makes up like 50% of the govt revenue.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/13/high-income-americans-pay-most-income-taxes-but-enough-to-be-fair/

whether you think it is enough is irrelevant, as you take zero risk, as you are not a business owner. People should not be penalized for being ambitious, and should certainly not be made equal to serfs with no life goals or ambitions
Have you ever talked with business owners and rich people about the insane amount of taxes they pay? A business can loose money year after year without aid, but the second they actually make good income , their growth/recovery is stifled by exorbitant income tax drain.
There is no secret business Illuminati that is like crushing your proletarian dreams or whatever, it is just businesses trying to make as much money as possible and not loose their ass. If I was them, I would exploit the shit out of dem loopholes too. Healthy business=healthy higher paid workforce(as in, not oregon hipsters who have no job or don't try at all, and want others to be responsible for their failings)


Anyway, we really need the parties to devolve into far left and far right. I wish I could be part of some military coup, the thought of it is quite romantic to me.

think of it, oberleutenant kashira, commander of the fascist military district, eventual ruler of all humanity.........glorious


also

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[KAT-PWR]

^^^
Yeah well if it ain't bout guap I'm gon'

[inopsey]

does that give you the right to not pay your own share of taxes? finding a loophole and getting tax breaks because you are rich does is bullshit, no one is asking the wealthy to pay anyone elses taxes we are asking them to pay their own share of taxes which they don't,

this is a perfect example of why its a waste of time trying to convince the general american population how the world works, they have their mind made up and have shut off their brains, blinded by 'the american dream' and other rhetoric. you make a logical argument and the general population is too dumb to understand so they spew 'socialism is bad mmmmmk '

this lack of knowledge/brains shows exactly why america is dumb enough to elect trump to run for a major party and probably dumb enough to elect him president..............

by the way i agree with what your saying here but it makes too much sense for most to understand

[justinbyrant]

Which is why the rich pay 50%+ of all income tax revenue this country receives?, and income tax makes up like 50% of the govt revenue.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/04/13/high-income-americans-pay-most-income-taxes-but-enough-to-be-fair/

whether you think it is enough is irrelevant, as you take zero risk, as you are not a business owner. People should not be penalized for being ambitious, and should certainly not be made equal to serfs with no life goals or ambitions
Have you ever talked with business owners and rich people about the insane amount of taxes they pay? A business can loose money year after year without aid, but the second they actually make good income , their growth/recovery is stifled by exorbitant income tax drain.
There is no secret business Illuminati that is like crushing your proletarian dreams or whatever, it is just businesses trying to make as much money as possible and not loose their ass. If I was them, I would exploit the shit out of dem loopholes too. Healthy business=healthy higher paid workforce(as in, not oregon hipsters who have no job or don't try at all, and want others to be responsible for their failings)


Anyway, we really need the parties to devolve into far left and far right. I wish I could be part of some military coup, the thought of it is quite romantic to me.

think of it, oberleutenant kashira, commander of the fascist military district, eventual ruler of all humanity.........glorious

this is such a ridiculous way of thinking, a person who makes 180 million a year could pay 500k in taxes that same year and think oh but I pay so much in taxes vs a person who makes 32,000 a year and pays 8-9k the thing people somehow for some god forsaken reason fail to realize is if both people worked and paid every penny they made to their taxes in order to pay off their debt early and keep the rest of the money they make for the year it would take the person making 32k a year over 3 months to pay their tax debt, the millionare would do it in a day (not researched figures of any person of bussiness just an exaggerated example) fairness isn't represented by an amount its represented by a percentage, and the fact of the matter is, without capitalism they wouldn't have to try to find tax dodges to survive because business competition would be fair a small business wouldn't have to compete with walmart, or fast food chains it would be honest fair competition and it would drastically improve our economy

and just so you know im not a Oregon hipster with no job or dream, I own and operate a machine shop with 6 employees under me, I know all about taxes and operating costs, and your wrong, flat out wrong about healthy business=higher paid healthy workers, if that was the case why does walmart, one of the healthiest businesses in the world pay its workers the least amount possible across the board? your theory works....... in a socialist economy, not in a capitalist one

[zombiewolf513]

this is such a ridiculous way of thinking, a person who makes 180 million a year could pay 500k in taxes that same year and think oh but I pay so much in taxes vs a person who makes 32,000 a year and pays 8-9k the thing people somehow for some god forsaken reason fail to realize is if both people worked and paid every penny they made to their taxes in order to pay off their debt early and keep the rest of the money they make for the year it would take the person making 32k a year over 3 months to pay their tax debt, the millionare would do it in a day (not researched figures of any person of bussiness just an exaggerated example) fairness isn't represented by an amount its represented by a percentage, and the fact of the matter is, without capitalism they wouldn't have to try to find tax dodges to survive because business competition would be fair a small business wouldn't have to compete with walmart, or fast food chains it would be honest fair competition and it would drastically improve our economy

and just so you know im not a Oregon hipster with no job or dream, I own and operate a machine shop with 6 employees under me, I know all about taxes and operating costs, and your wrong, flat out wrong about healthy business=higher paid healthy workers, if that was the case why does walmart, one of the healthiest businesses in the world pay its workers the least amount possible across the board? your theory works....... in a socialist economy, not in a capitalist one

You are wrong. If you made $180M a year your income tax is over $71M ($120k + 39.6%,), not $500k (.2%). At $32k income taxes come out to about $6k ($1000 + %15). The wealthy definitly already pay out the ass in taxes more than most people are willing to admit. Not only that, but once industries sink or leave because theyre crushed by US socialist regulation, the tax burden would then fall on mom and pop US citizen.


Source: https://www.irs.com/articles/projected-us-tax-rates-2016

[dudermagee]

Ugh this reminds me I need to start investing to get into a lower tax bracket

[kashira kureijii]

http://i.imgur.com/wJaq7Qa.jpg

[Corbic]

You are wrong. If you made $180M a year your income tax is over $71M ($120k + 39.6%,), not $500k (.2%). At $32k income taxes come out to about $6k ($1000 + %15). The wealthy definitly already pay out the ass in taxes more than most people are willing to admit. Not only that, but once industries sink or leave because theyre crushed by US socialist regulation, the tax burden would then fall on mom and pop US citizen.


Source: https://www.irs.com/articles/projected-us-tax-rates-2016

Exactly.

There is a reason why 90% of anything worth a damn comes from the United States.

When is the last time Denmark invented an iPhone, iPod, Computer Operating System, Self Driving Car, any video game or movie or whatever. The vast majority of the products, franchise and technologies the world consumes is dreamed up in the United States.


Sweden may have invented the Penis Pump, the United States gave us Viagra.

Canada can't even claim to have invented shitty beer... PBR predates Labatt by 2 years... (1844 vs 1846)

[Corbic]

the minorities wouldn't be underperforming if we didn't glorify the false ideal of the American dream, 320 million people in America not even 10% of those could live up to the American dream not because its unobtainable but because if 10% of the us population stopped working minimum wage jobs and started inventing or developing things to get rich, this country would break the speed of light in its plummet, service industries are a crucial part of any society and telling people who are a crucial part of a society that they aren't allowed to have basic things like health care because we refuse to pay them enough to afford it is the problem in this country.





You are a god damn idiot.

Last time I checked the "American Dream" was living in a 2 bedroom, 1 bath single track house with a driveway, a car, a fenced in back yard and a radio.

Move to just about anywhere outside the North East or West Cost and it's easy to get.

Typical shoe box house with 3 bedrooms and a detached garage is like $70-100k.

That's $550 a month with taxes. You'll need 3.5% down with an FHA loan. VA, minority and low income loans also exist that are 0% down.

3.5% is $2,500 to $3,500.

Stop drinking at bars, buying car parts and Jordan's.

Pretty sure two people working at Lowe's ($12 an hour) can afford that.

12 * 40 * 2 * 4 = $3,850 a month.

After initial Taxes = $3,000. Then once a year you each get like $5-10,000 back

You can always work a second job. The idea that you should only work 20-40 hours a week is bullshit.

I'm salaried. I have an MBA, I'm well paid. I work 50 hours on a normal week and it's not uncommon to work 60 or spend multiple days doing redeye travel.

If you get a bullshit welding job at $16/HR and work 5 x 10s, that's $640+$240 = $880 * 4 = $3,520 a month.

Get a girl that works at Forever 21 makings $7.50 18hrs a week (3X6) and at Home Depot for 24 (3X8) @ $11.25, $125 + $270 = $395 *4 = $1580

Now your pulling in $5,100 a month, $61,200 a year!! And that's with neither person having any education and being able to find those types of jobs pretty much anywhere in a mater of weeks if not days.

[Matej]

I'm salaried. I have an MBA, I'm well paid. I work 50 hours on a normal week and it's not uncommon to work 60 or spend multiple days doing redeye travel.
Sorry to hear about your struggle. Hopefully you can attain the American Dream someday.

[rawgarage]

Anybody feel like trump was just a pawn to give Hillary an easy opponent and then he was actually not bad and then he caught on with republicans ...now it's a self sabotage type of situation

[lunchmeat]

That's what it looks like.

[DrtyRat]

You are a god damn idiot.

Last time I checked the "American Dream" was living in a 2 bedroom, 1 bath single track house with a driveway, a car, a fenced in back yard and a radio.

Move to just about anywhere outside the North East or West Cost and it's easy to get.

Typical shoe box house with 3 bedrooms and a detached garage is like $70-100k.

That's $550 a month with taxes. You'll need 3.5% down with an FHA loan. VA, minority and low income loans also exist that are 0% down.

3.5% is $2,500 to $3,500.

Stop drinking at bars, buying car parts and Jordan's.

Pretty sure two people working at Lowe's ($12 an hour) can afford that.

12 * 40 * 2 * 4 = $3,850 a month.

After initial Taxes = $3,000. Then once a year you each get like $5-10,000 back

You can always work a second job. The idea that you should only work 20-40 hours a week is bullshit.

I'm salaried. I have an MBA, I'm well paid. I work 50 hours on a normal week and it's not uncommon to work 60 or spend multiple days doing redeye travel.

If you get a bullshit welding job at $16/HR and work 5 x 10s, that's $640+$240 = $880 * 4 = $3,520 a month.

Get a girl that works at Forever 21 makings $7.50 18hrs a week (3X6) and at Home Depot for 24 (3X8) @ $11.25, $125 + $270 = $395 *4 = $1580

Now your pulling in $5,100 a month, $61,200 a year!! And that's with neither person having any education and being able to find those types of jobs pretty much anywhere in a mater of weeks if not days.

Well said!
The American Dream is not that you are given everything you want, it's that everything you want is available if you work hard.

[kashira kureijii]

http://i.imgur.com/JsMhIcr.jpg

[dudermagee]

You are a god damn idiot.

Last time I checked the "American Dream" was living in a 2 bedroom, 1 bath single track house with a driveway, a car, a fenced in back yard and a radio.

Move to just about anywhere outside the North East or West Cost and it's easy to get.

Typical shoe box house with 3 bedrooms and a detached garage is like $70-100k.

That's $550 a month with taxes. You'll need 3.5% down with an FHA loan. VA, minority and low income loans also exist that are 0% down.

3.5% is $2,500 to $3,500.

Stop drinking at bars, buying car parts and Jordan's.

Pretty sure two people working at Lowe's ($12 an hour) can afford that.

12 * 40 * 2 * 4 = $3,850 a month.

After initial Taxes = $3,000. Then once a year you each get like $5-10,000 back

You can always work a second job. The idea that you should only work 20-40 hours a week is bullshit.

I'm salaried. I have an MBA, I'm well paid. I work 50 hours on a normal week and it's not uncommon to work 60 or spend multiple days doing redeye travel.

If you get a bullshit welding job at $16/HR and work 5 x 10s, that's $640+$240 = $880 * 4 = $3,520 a month.

Get a girl that works at Forever 21 makings $7.50 18hrs a week (3X6) and at Home Depot for 24 (3X8) @ $11.25, $125 + $270 = $395 *4 = $1580

Now your pulling in $5,100 a month, $61,200 a year!! And that's with neither person having any education and being able to find those types of jobs pretty much anywhere in a mater of weeks if not days.

Shit $16 an hour and a 40hr work week will do you fine on the east coast too. You just can't live in the major cities (who would want to anyways). It's all about realizing the difference between what you need and what you want.

[DangerousTides]

If you get a bullshit welding job

Way to shit on a very fine profession. :fawk2:

Btw, most welders I know make way more than $16/hr. You wouldn't know that though, as I'm sure the last time your hands were dirty at work was when you had to change the toner in the copier. :mrmeph:

[KAT-PWR]

Way to shit on a very fine profession. :fawk2:

Btw, most welders I know make way more than $16/hr. You wouldn't know that though, as I'm sure the last time your hands were dirty at work was when you had to change the toner in the copi
Chill dude. It sounds like he is referring to It as falling more into the trades category as in one can just decide "I'm gonna be a welder"

Vs professions that require significant education

Like someone can't just decide "I'm going to be a doctor" and be practicing in a reasonable amount of time.

[kashira kureijii]

http://i.imgur.com/FwM2Cza.jpg



http://i.imgur.com/yfIBfen.png?1

[STR8 H8N]

http://i.imgur.com/FwM2Cza.jpg



http://i.imgur.com/yfIBfen.png?1

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[Bushido]

The ascension of Trump is an international embarrassment. Every country is looking at us and laughing.. except for Japan?

ZbM6WbUw7Bs

[kashira kureijii]

The ascension of Trump is an international embarrassment. Every country is looking at us and laughing.. except for Japan?

ZbM6WbUw7Bs

an american made that commercial as a joke, but a lot of japanese folks like da trump

there is plenty right wing japanese people fam

4tXv_PJPycA



other countries are shit, and don't make near as much money as america, what they gonna laugh at us for? no one care what a bunch of Euro-cucks think. their countries are all being destroyed by muslims, while they act like america is destroying itself for electing someone who gives zero fucks. I don't think trump is near extreme enough, but at least he isn't a robot who cares for the opinions of sheep

[Corbic]

The ascension of Trump is an international embarrassment. Every country is looking at us and laughing.. except for Japan?



Cause Hilary is not the epitome of what created Marxism and Facisim at the start of the 20th century.

[S14kouki805]

an american made that commercial as a joke, but a lot of japanese folks like da trump

there is plenty right wing japanese people fam



other countries are shit, and don't make near as much money as america, what they gonna laugh at us for? no one care what a bunch of Euro-cucks think. their countries are all being destroyed by muslims, while they act like america is destroying itself for electing someone who gives zero fucks. I don't think trump is near extreme enough, but at least he isn't a robot who cares for the opinions of sheep

The fact that you used the word "fam" makes your opinion null and void, never mind your continued support for a complete pile of shit like Trump:facepalm:

[Bushido]

I'm with Carlin

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[lunchmeat]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20161008/c87edaa7832db48eebff4e5c77072599.jpg

[lewisfk]

https://youtu.be/--6QO-Ewml0


Wow!!! God help us all!

[kashira kureijii]

https://youtu.be/--6QO-Ewml0


Wow!!! God help us all!



Omg this changes everything!

He wants da pussy yall

We better vote for a pneumonic lesbian who gets a significant portion of her funding from saudi arabia instead

[kashira kureijii]

Cause Hilary is not the epitome of what created Marxism and Facisim at the start of the 20th century.



You spelled fascism wrong mustang fam, i can see the marxism part, but cant really see what you mean by dem fascist comments. Fascism was the ultra right wing anti-marxism developed to channel human ambition for the good of the state, in countries such as italy ,after the first world war. Unlike leftism, It solves economic depression rather than causes it

Marxism and fascism are far from synonymous, unless you meant that this whole bullshit style of politics is what lead to their creation in the first place




The fact that you used the word "fam" makes your opinion null and void, never mind your continued support for a complete pile of shit like Trump:facepalm:


Sure fam, you seem to have complex argumentation and reasoning skills figured out. I use it pseudo ironically

Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

[Corbic]

You spelled fascism wrong mustang fam,

First rule of Grammar Nazi; Have good Grammar. :facepalm:



i can see the marxism part, but cant really see what you mean by dem fascist comments. Fascism was the ultra right wing anti-marxism developed to channel human ambition for the good of the state, in countries such as italy ,after the first world war. Unlike leftism, It solves economic depression rather than causes it

Marxism and fascism are far from synonymous, unless you meant that this whole bullshit style of politics is what lead to their creation in the first place
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Maybe you should use Google.

Marxism and Fascism both owe their origins to the struggle and inequities of post Imperial Europe.

Marxism was the repulsion of the Imperial class systems and bourgeoisie capitalist pigs oppressing the working man and manipulating the democratic processes to their favor.

Hilary is the insider party machine hack who's spent a life time manipulating voters to better herself, her friends and her family. She is the epitome of political cronyism and corruption. She's completely isolated from "the People" and will say anything to us to get elected to further her own power and greed.

As for Fascism, you are wrong in the terming of "right wing". Fascism is right to communism, but that is not the same scale for which Americans term "right and left". Fascism is more Up and Down on that scale. Fascism is also anti-conservative and anti-capitalism, both strong "right wing" principles in modern America.

On one hand people like her caused Fascism, with their gross corruption of the democratic process and their completely ineffective governance system. On the other hand people like her created Fascism. I have no doubt that she would love there to be a single party, her manipulation of the primaries shows she doesn't care about true democracy and she's for a very powerful centralized government with a mixed economy.

[kashira kureijii]

As for Fascism, you are wrong in the terming of "right wing". Fascism is right to communism, but that is not the same scale for which Americans term "right and left". Fascism is more Up and Down on that scale. Fascism is also anti-conservative and anti-capitalism, both strong "right wing" principles in modern America.
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true, right wing policy in america stays within the boundaries of democracy while fascism does not. I couldn't really say how right wing it is when comparing it to a non-democratic system. American style conservatism and and moderate right wing capitalism is pretty dissimilar to the ultra-nationalist state-centric ideologies of autocracy and other forms of fascism.

can't really see how it is anti-conservative in the wider sense though, Franco's Spain, Pinochets' Chile and Mussolini's Italy both kept religion fairly intact, and promoted the creation of strong family units and hard work. Nazi germany wasn't the same from a religious standpoint, but definitely destroyed the degeneracy created by the Wiemar republic.Post WW1 germany had the highest % of prostitutes, as well as a pretty horrible amount of transvestite's, gays, and lesbians. Hitler and the Nazi's changed all that, and had them all done away with (except in the case of prostitution, which was just kinda reduced obviously), fixed the economy, and defeated communist threat to business and family.

all of them drew traditionalist imagery, the nazi's with old prussia, the italians with the old roman empire, spain with old spain etc etc.

As far as the anti-capitalist part of that, it may vaugely appear that way when comparing it to american capitalism of like the 50's-today, but at the time, america was pretty leftist/socialist. Fascism doesn't really do all that much to corporations at all, thousands of corporations existed in all of these countries, almost all of which were privately owned.
As franco said when his government came to power, "the state is now a totalitarian entity, the only freedom left to the people is that to their family, religion, and corporation" .
He said that in spanish obviously, but you know. Alot of this totalitarianism was necessary, because the common-unambitious masses will resort to voting for things that will give them free shit, not necessarily what will be best for the nation or it's more ambitious citizens.
Pinochet has a pretty good quote to signify this, he said "always remember that in the beginning there was a plebiscite, in which the citizens could choose between Jesus or Barabbas, and they chose Barabbas". It kinda demonstrates peoples ability to vote out of spite, what the media tells them, and out of ignorance.

Pinochet made Chile the strongest Economy in South America, they have a higher GDP per capita than Brazil, despite brazil being much larger, having much more people, etc.
Corporations still exist in fascism in a relatively capitalist manner, despite what we as Americans would deem everything being unamerican, as anti-capitalist. Junkers, Fiat, Mauser, Porsche, Opel, etc,etc, were all corporations in existence through all this stuff (in italy and germany).

none of these places have/had the per capita gdp and gross national product of the US though. The US's version of capitilism is still better, but its political means to keep capitalism intact are weak at this point, and can't really combat the growing hordes of leftists.

[KAT-PWR]

Omg this changes everything!

He wants da pussy yall

We better vote for a pneumonic lesbian who gets a significant portion of her funding from saudi arabia instead



If I ever met a guy who said he'd never talked like that with his friends I'd either call him a liar or beat his ass for fear of my life

[lewisfk]

What politician doesn't receive money from foreign countries? Citizens United! The point is that he has a history of saying horrible shit too and about women. Ive worked as a SAPR advocate at my previous command, and it's very hard to change the culture of rape with comments like this.

[kashira kureijii]

If I ever met a guy who said he'd never talked like that with his friends I'd either call him a liar or beat his ass for fear of my life



I know right? Does anyone even actually talk to normal men? Its an awesome mix of camaraderie , dirty jokes, and vague insults haha, how are people this out of touch

What politician doesn't receive money from foreign countries? Citizens United! The point is that he has a history of saying horrible shit too and about women. Ive worked as a SAPR advocate at my previous command, and it's very hard to change the culture of rape with comments like this.



Gawd, this is the most beta cuck thing ive heard in a while.
If you wanna make life better for women, go to muslim countries were they"re genitally mutilated and shit, or go to africa were 2/3 women have been raped . Or In india were women are gang raped and shit. Or maybe to some minority neighborhood here in america, but as far as womens rights go, Western civilization has been #1 in that since day 1

I shouldnt have to be lectured for the rapey actions of frat boys either, that is something well known, so anyone with any sense knows to avoid it. We get lame surveys and shit every school year cuz someone complains about what some undergraduate frat boy does

[lunchmeat]

I've heard worse shit from women at work.

So he said "grab em by the pussy". Is that any different from some chick saying she leads her man by his dick? Nope.

[KAT-PWR]

this is the most beta cuck thing ive heard

I shouldnt have to be lectured for the rapey actions of frat boys either, that is something well known, so anyone with any sense knows to avoid it. We get lame surveys and shit every school year cuz someone complains about what some undergraduate frat boy does
I had to complete, no exaggeration, a four hour online rape course. So at the end it asked for your thoughts on this course. I wrote "after completing this worthless task i have never felt a stronger desire to rape"

Was risky but never heard back about it

[lunchmeat]

Mandatory sjw training? So glad I haven't had to deal with that shit.

[kashira kureijii]

I had to complete, no exaggeration, a four hour online rape course. So at the end it asked for your thoughts on this course. I wrote "after completing this worthless task i have never felt a stronger desire to rape"



Was risky but never heard back about it



Lmao,

I had to take a small little like 30 minute online one back at my old skewl,
It was like "you and girl are together, you make advances, she says no, do you continue Y/N"


I did have to fill out this thing about what diversity struggles i had to go through to get to professional school, and how i could contribute to diversity, so i was like " i will probably be the only blond male and am younger then everybody else". This kinda ended being true from a diversity standpoint, cuz i really am the only one haha. Incidentally i only used 100/ out of the max 2500 characters.

[lewisfk]

∆∆ setting in a course is great, but actually dealing with a sexual assault case from the start until its judicated is a nightmare. The statement about going to Africa or the Middle East, I got that T-shirt twice. While we're debating his narcissistic behavior, I would rather like to discuss ways of getting off the tit of oil companies.

[zombiewolf513]

Let's see if they lob underhanded softballs to Hillary and hardballs at Trump, then say Hillary kicked his ass again

[SlideWell]

Both are shyt. Pick your poison. The world is screwed for at least 4 years. It's embarrassing to travel abroad with this crap.

[STR8 H8N]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuYG4Y2WYAABoHk.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CuYBI7OUMAEGjqm.jpg

[kashira kureijii]

Both are shyt. Pick your poison. The world is screwed for at least 4 years. It's embarrassing to travel abroad with this crap.



You sound like you really care about your image abroad..... despite it completely pointless and irrelevant to your own national well being.

Why at any time would a proper western male feel shame for the conspirings of his own country when abroad? Do you look at a bunch of smelly European men whos wives fantasize about getting raped by muslims and think "man i am so ashamed to be an american" "man im really ashamed of being american and saving these people from communism and nazism" "man im really ashamed that my nation manages a greater net gdp than all the EU combined"

For me its the opposite, when im around my eurotrash cousins and have to hear their decadent, pretentious comments, i feel great shame for being related to them

Dont be such a weasel bro, a proper western male need apologize for nothing

[dudermagee]

Meanwhile wiki leaks is dropping bombs on the Clinton campaign and no major media is reporting it.

[anti tyler]

Meanwhile wiki leaks is dropping bombs on the Clinton campaign and no major media is reporting it.

It never will, we see what they want us to see unfortunately. That's how it always will be.

[BagOfWeed]

Lol. Donald Trump 2016.


Of course the typical dumb ass 240sx owner does not support him and is brainwashed from MK Ultra.

[S14kouki805]

Lol. Donald Trump 2016.


Of course the typical dumb ass 240sx owner does not support him and is brainwashed from MK Ultra.

I think you smoked yourself retarded :picardfp:

[BagOfWeed]

Lol. not yet. And even if I did I would still be significantly more intelligent than you ever would be. Picard does not make you cool.

Enjoy the MK Ultra!

[S14kouki805]

Lol. not yet. And even if I did I would still be significantly more intelligent than you ever would be. Picard does not make you cool.

Enjoy the MK Ultra!

My god you really are a moron...and you made me Google MKUltra:facepalm:

And yes, picards actually do make me cool :fawk2:

[lewisfk]

Actually some media outlets are covering the emails NBC, MSNBC, and BBC. I prefer BBC and C- SPAN.

[BagOfWeed]

My god you really are a moron...and you made me Google MKUltra:facepalm:

And yes, picards actually do make me cool :fawk2:

LOL. I taught you something and I am the moron? I am the teacher, you are the student.

[Corbic]

http://i1237.photobucket.com/albums/ff467/AFZombie/jokes%20and%20memes/04A5F544-79D2-4A33-87D2-4745A5A2D5CE_zps6i1phjnw.jpeg (http://s1237.photobucket.com/user/AFZombie/media/jokes%20and%20memes/04A5F544-79D2-4A33-87D2-4745A5A2D5CE_zps6i1phjnw.jpeg.html)

[KAT-PWR]

I honestly do have suspicion that they are being funded by Hillary

[lunchmeat]

Wouldn't be surprised by it.

[STR8 H8N]

http://i1.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/023/241/3d0.jpg

[STR8 H8N]

http://www.relatably.com/m/img/hillary-clinton-memes/apalin-1.jpg

[Corbic]

I honestly do have suspicion that they are being funded by Hillary



The deal is, even if it all pans out to be fake, it'll be to late.

[S14kouki805]

I'm honestly thinking of voting for Gary Johnson, even if he didn't know what Aleppo is.

I can't stand Trump or Hillary, they both make me sick.

[Corbic]

I'm honestly thinking of voting for Gary Johnson, even if he didn't know what Aleppo is.

I can't stand Trump or Hillary, they both make me sick.



A vote for Gary is a Vote for Hillary.

[BagOfWeed]

Let me educate you. You live in California. Your vote doesn't matter this is Hillary Clinton's state. But don't let that discourage you, knowing the truth is very important for oneself.

You must ask oneself.

Why do I dislike Hillary?
Why do I dislike Trump?
Why do I not dislike Gary Johnson?

I am a libertarian, and I dislike Gary Johnson cause lol he is dumb, weak, and lacks leadership skill. Plus almost a literal 0% chance of election.

s14kouoki805, you must ask yourself. Who are the true elite? Who are the people that wish to oppress you? Who do they want to be President of the United States?

About to drop some more bombshell information that you can google and learn. George Soros. Rothschild family.

Blue or Red Pill?

better to know, than to be a fool.

[S14kouki805]

A vote for Gary is a Vote for Hillary.

You could flip that and say Trump

[BagOfWeed]

You could flip that and say Trump

You cannot when you live in CA.

[pacotaco345]

You could flip that and say Trump
You can't say that when the vast majority of Hillary supporters are brainwashed by the media and don't even know who Gary Johnson is. Gary voters are not potential Hillary voters but they are potential Trump voters.

[STR8 H8N]

https://d3n8a8pro7vhmx.cloudfront.net/johnsonweld2016/pages/218/meta_images/original/Johnson-OG-2.jpg?1469468954

[exitspeed]

Hilary and her supporters, the media are acting like Trump talking about grabbing a bitch by the pussy is offensive, when Hilary, her supporters and the media forgave her husband for shoving a cigar in a bitches pussy, getting a blow job in the White House and shooting a load on her dress WHILE FUCKING PRESIDENT.

Most hypocritical shit I've ever seen.

Keep in mind these are the same sick fucking people that defend being a pedaphile.

[justinbyrant]

Hilary and her supporters, the media are acting like Trump talking about grabbing a bitch by the pussy is offensive, when Hilary, her supporters and the media forgave her husband for shoving a cigar in a bitches pussy, getting a blow job in the White House and shooting a load on her dress WHILE FUCKING PRESIDENT.

Most hypocritical shit I've ever seen.

except Clinton did it with consent, not saying that makes it ok but it makes it better

and as far as trumps comments and the allegations against him, trump wasn't speaking in machismo locker room talk, you don't use words like beautiful when talking to your boys you don't speak passionately there is a huge difference between talking with your boys about fucking some chick In the ass to try to make yourself sound better and saying things like "they are just so beautiful I cant help but just grab them and kiss them"

and the women who are just now coming forward I guess the only thing is its a real "she said and he also said" type situation, its kinda hard to say oh they are just paid off when he says he did it and they say he did it, and yes it was a private conversation but like all things that trump says and does he shows no remorse for the things he does, personally just like all of you here i can say some pretty fucked up shit as well when im in private however as a decent respectful human being if those things came out on national television and the world seen it the first thing i would do is apologize, however we are talking about a man who made fun of handicapped people in front of the world while running for president, he doesn't do decent respectable human being

[justinbyrant]

oh and what happened to all the trump supporters worrying about men dressing as women and gropping other women in bathrooms just a few short months ago? those same women are now wearing shirts claiming trump can grab their pussy, so its all cool if hes rich huh? what kind of backwards fucking pageantry is that?

[justinbyrant]

not voting for Hillary just before anyone claims im a Hillary supporter, im a supporter for the guillotine for everyone currently holding public office higher than that of a town mayor, America needs some democratic socialism so we aren't overtaken by all of the democratic socialist countries in the world that are currently and very quickly catching and overtaking us in almost every category

[exitspeed]

except Clinton did it with consent, not saying that makes it ok but it makes it better

and as far as trumps comments and the allegations against him, trump wasn't speaking in machismo locker room talk, you don't use words like beautiful when talking to your boys you don't speak passionately there is a huge difference between talking with your boys about fucking some chick In the ass to try to make yourself sound better and saying things like "they are just so beautiful I cant help but just grab them and kiss them"

and the women who are just now coming forward I guess the only thing is its a real "she said and he also said" type situation, its kinda hard to say oh they are just paid off when he says he did it and they say he did it, and yes it was a private conversation but like all things that trump says and does he shows no remorse for the things he does, personally just like all of you here i can say some pretty fucked up shit as well when im in private however as a decent respectful human being if those things came out on national television and the world seen it the first thing i would do is apologize, however we are talking about a man who made fun of handicapped people in front of the world while running for president, he doesn't do decent respectable human being

I didn't say he was a decent respectable human being. I said Hilary supports and the media are hypocrites.

And concent is beside the point. He commuted adultery while President. Pretty sure most people, answering honestly, would consider cheating on your wife worse than a little crude talk between dudes.

And let's not forget, his actions (and Hilary's) ruined multiple women's lives and reputations.

Again, I'm not saying Trump is a saint. I'm saying Bill and Hilary are far fucking worse but they are acting like Trumps actions are shocking.

[WheelWhore]

If this country fails, I'd rather it fail to Trump than Killary.

Fuck a liar (emails), murderer(Benghazi), and, theif(Haiti Relief Fund).

I'll take my chances with a Man.

Problem with Trump is he didn't live a straight line life. So it's easy to throw Stones. Plus I feel the media is spinning shit in regards to helping Killary.

I'm out.

[STR8 H8N]

If this country fails, I'd rather it fail to Trump than Killary.

Fuck a liar (emails), murderer(Benghazi), and, theif(Haiti Relief Fund).

I'll take my chances with a Man.

Problem with Trump is he didn't live a straight line life. So it's easy to through Stones. Plus I feel the media is spinning shit in regards to helping Killary.

I'm out.

and hes not a politician

so they take advantage of that

pence alone wins my vote

[WheelWhore]

The vice presidential won my respect fo Pence. Kain seems like a douchebag.

[S14kouki805]

and hes not a politician

so they take advantage of that

pence alone wins my vote

Yeah because a Vice President actually matters...right :picardfp:

When was the last time you heard of Biden making an impact on anything?

Trump/Hillary both pieces of human excrement if you ask me. Not sure how any of you can defend either one. That's like saying would you rather burn or drown to death, actually I'd rather drown now that I think about it...

Damn we are royally fucked...

[lunchmeat]

Fuck it. I'm voting for Vermin. If we got to elect crazy, at least do that shit proper.

[exitspeed]

I'm just waiting for Paul Ryan 2020.

[exitspeed]

except Clinton did it with consent, not saying that makes it ok but it makes it better


http://youtu.be/rNK4ekl-Bas

And soooooo...there goes the "better" part.

She should shut her mouth about that whole thing in regards to Trump. Unless she says something like "we'll, I'm used to it. Look who I'm married to.". Of course that would require a shred of honesty and decency which we know she is incapable of.

[Bushido]

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what are your thoughts?

[dudermagee]

I bet nothing happens as per usual.

Expect hillary to be the next president guys, our overlords have already decided.

[exitspeed]

5IuJGHuIkzY

what are your thoughts?

Trump sounds like a nut when he says the election is rigged...and gen you find out it's actually rigged. Low information voters won't give it a second thought because the media will tell them "it's no big deal".

[kashira kureijii]

im a supporter for the guillotine for everyone currently holding public office higher than that of a town mayor, America needs some democratic socialism so we aren't overtaken by all of the democratic socialist countries in the world

The only people that need the guillotine are you and all the other leftist parasites in the world.
When trump/hillary gets elected and fucks america up, the military junta can take over and we can throw you out of a helicopter.

"Democratic" socialism is why 90% of the chinese population makes less than $10 a day. It's such a good, management system that its led to 100+million people starving to death since 1925. You're the classic "real socialism has never been tried bro" internet leftist that would love to have the rainbow colored dick of equality shoved right up your ass.

Equality doesn't exist, never has, never will. People inherently develop with more or less willpower than others.

Conservative democracy isn't strong enough to to stop the growing #'s of entitled millennial leftists such as yourself, our only hope at this point is that everything gets fucked and that somehow it brings about change. Western civilization is dying because we've handicapped it and allowed leftist cancer to persist in our society.

In fact, every male that wears tight jeans needs to get freaking gassed, sounds like good politics to me.




http://i.imgur.com/mGYUgAb.jpg

[exitspeed]

In fact, every male that wears tight jeans needs to get freaking gassed, sounds like good politics to me.


Hey hey hey, I wear tight pants and I'm a conservative/libertarian.

[STR8 H8N]

Yeah because a Vice President actually matters...right :picardfp:

When was the last time you heard of Biden making an impact on anything?

Trump/Hillary both pieces of human excrement if you ask me. Not sure how any of you can defend either one. That's like saying would you rather burn or drown to death, actually I'd rather drown now that I think about it...

Damn we are royally fucked...

serious?

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[kashira kureijii]

Hey hey hey, I wear tight pants and I'm a conservative/libertarian.



Hahaha, buy some cargo pants then. Tight pants are for women fam

[exitspeed]

Hahaha, buy some cargo pants then. Tight pants are for women fam

Even my cargo pants are tight. I'm a photographer though so what do you expect.

[BagOfWeed]

hi msglngth

[SlideWell]

I'm voting for Trump because I like his stance on most things. That is the simplest way I can put it.

[BagOfWeed]

not voting for Hillary just before anyone claims im a Hillary supporter, im a supporter for the guillotine for everyone currently holding public office higher than that of a town mayor, America needs some democratic socialism so we aren't overtaken by all of the democratic socialist countries in the world that are currently and very quickly catching and overtaking us in almost every category

LOL. You are dumb. Go back to fixing your pos car and stop trying to take other people's stuff.

[STR8 H8N]

http://66.media.tumblr.com/eac1df91aaaffd406a55e7c7f7ea35d4/tumblr_inline_n7l0r5Xdo01ssoiqt.gif

[Bushido]

HAHAHAHA this video is way too long

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[TMW]

I can't change my vote in the poll.

Trump will get my support.

[future]

I've been with trump since day one

[S14kouki805]

Unfuckinbelievable how some of you guys can back Trump.

I mean Hillary is a piece of shit herself but Trump is on another level.

[future]

Last I checked he didn't support cutting out a full 9 month baby. Or drilling through the head to kill it in the woom. And then the mom then has to still birth a dead baby


Yeah! Women have the right to their body blah blah. She supports that LGBT or whatever that shit is. She is the fucking devil

[zombiewolf513]

She's so full of shit, it's stupid.

https://s14.postimg.org/lxwgi0oht/IMG_1355.jpg

[kashira kureijii]

Haha, it was pretty cool of the FBI to reopen the investigation. Neither the FBI nor the military want her elected, cuz they know she"ll throw em away for bullshit political reasons that she doesnt fully understand. Kinda like that Benghazi shit.
There also is a shit ton of corruption in her midst, what with getting debate questions before the debate and voter fraud. The media is like insane biased for her too. If you just go to default iphone news, all it is is an anti-trump smear campaign

She wants to continue to start shit with Russia too, even though russia would be a much more valuable ally than all of those arabs
Fuck that bitch fam


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[future]

Yes the media is definitely anti trump. Instead of reporting news they report what they want to brain wash with. I tell everyone, watch the news and take with a grain of salt

[lunchmeat]

I stopped watching "news" a decade ago. Bunch of bullshit propaganda.

[future]

Amen



I watch in the morning for weather and they can't even get that right

[exitspeed]

Voted on Monday. First time early voting.

Done deal.

[zombiewolf513]

The news media has some incredible nerve to deny their political biases and the possibility of voter fraud/rigging (yet they proclaim russia is behind all the election hacking).

"Donald Trump is a xenophobe", but Hillary Clinton is a saint for wanting war with Russia because they're targeting her in specific. Which'll inevitably mean a temporary ban on Russian immigrants. Which has already happened before, and people act like muslims are the only ones this has ever affected. Moreover, Hillary herself is a closet supporter of the same refugee/immigrant vetting trump is talking about. Trump just so happened to use this point as a main campaign topic, so Hillary (and supportive media) took advantage of the opposition by politically slandering him to gain for her voter base.

According to millions of ignorant Americans, talking yourself up with your friends in a private conversation is more damning than allowing the exposure of national security information as the top classifier of information. Who's pushing that narrative? (For curious future readers: when liberal media tries to deny and hide this fact like their support for war in Iraq/Afghanistan). For the record, if you are 'Secretary of State', you are an intelligence target of nations ally and foe. To believe otherwise is ignorance by choice. Everyone (nations) probe and hack everyone else they can for beneficial information. If she had information on an unofficial and/or unsecured device, she was probably hacked. "Donald Trump is such an asshole for 'talking Russia into hacking us'" when Hillary over here has the nation's backdoor open through her AOL account. The outrage is clearly misplaced.

"How dare Comey bring new criminal evidence to light this close to our corrupt election day" says everyone supportive of the same prideful voter fraud that contributed to Obama's wins. Yet to these people, it doesn't matter if she deletes tens of thousands of emails when subpoenaed. Why would she have any reason to delete the emails if they were filled with small talk. It's a federal investigation. Anyone else that'd done that would be guilty on the spot.

And Trump a demagogue? People openly voted (honestly and fraudulently) for a presidential candidate based on skin color, people intend to vote for a candidate based on her sex, who's the demagogue again?

Lastly, Hillary Clinton has been copying Trump's body language, slogans, and pronunciations more as her campaign has gone on. Nobody was making the "A-Okay" sign while talking before Trump, for example (third debate). Clearly she wants to use what he has, and sees him as a threat to her tyranny.

[future]

Preach!
.....

[exitspeed]

Amen brother.

[zombiewolf513]

Also, her pandering for the black vote should be insulting to the black voter.

We've seen this before.

She cares about the black vote, not the black life.

She loves the sinning LGBT, the super-predatory blacks, and deplorable whites as long as they're voting for HER.

[spooled240]

The news media has some incredible nerve to deny their political biases and the possibility of voter fraud/rigging (yet they proclaim russia is behind all the election hacking).

"Donald Trump is a xenophobe", but Hillary Clinton is a saint for wanting war with Russia because they're targeting her in specific. Which'll inevitably mean a temporary ban on Russian immigrants. Which has already happened before, and people act like muslims are the only ones this has ever affected. Moreover, Hillary herself is a closet supporter of the same refugee/immigrant vetting trump is talking about. Trump just so happened to use this point as a main campaign topic, so Hillary (and supportive media) took advantage to politically slander him.

According to millions of ignorant Americans, talking yourself up with your friends in a private conversation is more damning than allowing the exposure of national security information as the top classifier of information. Who's pushing that narrative? For the record, if you are 'Secretary of State', you are an intelligence target of nations ally and foe. To believe otherwise is ignorance by choice. Everyone (nations) probe and hack everyone else they can for beneficial information. If she had information on an unofficial and/or unsecured device, she was probably hacked.

"How dare Comey bring new criminal evidence to light this close to our corrupt election" says everyone supportive of the same prideful voter fraud that contributed to Obama's wins. Yet to these people, it doesn't matter if she deletes tens of thousands of emails when subpoenaed. Why would she have any reason to delete the emails if they were filled with small talk. It's a federal investigation. Anyone else that'd done that would be guilty on the spot.

And Trump a demagogue? People openly voted (honestly and fraudulently) for a presidential candidate based on skin color, people intend to vote for a candidate based on her sex, who's the demagogue again?

Lastly, Hillary Clinton has been copying Trump's body language, slogans, and pronunciations as her campaign has gone on. Clearly she wants to use what he has, and sees him as a threat to her tyranny.
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[kashira kureijii]

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Suicide you with two gunshot wounds to the head, like that other dude haha

[deolio]

i voted gary johnson. would rather have a stoner in the whitehouse than a pissed off ompaloompa or a corporate puppet. and i hope the democrats and republicans get the message. tired of voting for shitty candidates.

[lunchmeat]

We get shitty candidates because no one but power hungry asshats want the job. All the benefits, and none of the responsibilities though.

[deolio]

bernie wanted the job, just never got a fair chance.

[zombiewolf513]

IMO, we should have great candidates lined up for nomination years in advance.

We wait for candidates to show up, then try to discern through a kaleidoscope of processed information to make a decision on the false dichotomy presented to us.

Is trump a perfect candidate, hell no. Is he a good candidate, no. Is he the only candidate that could win against Hillary at this point, yes. People are too narrow-minded to vote for someone that doesn't already have a sweeping bandwagon

[Highway Riding]

bernie wanted the job, just never got a fair chance.

Well said!

This is the very reason why any true to the heart democrat should vote against Hillary. Bernie really was one of the only half honest candidates with a record to back it up. Sure like a true politician he has negotiated on some items but that is the name of the game. This election is about voting against the other rather than voting for your true candidate!

[future]

This guy stays preaching

[STR8 H8N]

She's so full of shit, it's stupid.

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[S14kouki805]

Well said!

This is the very reason why any true to the heart democrat should vote against Hillary. Bernie really was one of the only half honest candidates with a record to back it up. Sure like a true politician he has negotiated on some items but that is the name of the game. This election is about voting against the other rather than voting for your true candidate!

Believe me, I hate Hillary just as much as the Trump supporters (maybe), damn it can we get Bernie back??

Fuck 'em both, I think I'm going for Gary Johnson!

[lunchmeat]

I may have hated Sanders' politics, but at least he was honest on where he stood.

[S14kouki805]

Sanders was a godsend compared to these corrupt/unqualified pieces of shit.

Worst election in U.S. history.

[lunchmeat]

I have a hard time voting for anyone who has been collecting a check since the 80's from some govt position or another.

[kashira kureijii]

Sanders was a godsend .



Which is exactly why he sold out to Hillary......

Sanders was shit, he wanted to take land and give it to the landless peasants. America would have been just as destroyed with them socialists around.

Hopefully trump wins, cuz otherwise we will have civil war #2 , and ill have to quit school to join the military junta

[pacotaco345]

Which is exactly why he sold out to Hillary......

Sanders was shit, he wanted to take land and give it to the landless peasants. America would have been just as destroyed with them socialists around.

Hopefully trump wins, cuz otherwise we will have civil war #2 , and ill have to quit school to join the military junta
Second this, Bernie may have been relatively honest compared to Hillary, but his entire campaign stood on the basis of giving millenials and 30 year old jobless bums who still live with their mom more handouts. People bitching about unfair wages and student loans are the ones graduating with useless liberal arts degrees thinking they're entitled to well paying jobs after their four years of partying err leftist indoctrination err "hard work".

[S14kouki805]

Which is exactly why he sold out to Hillary......

Sanders was shit, he wanted to take land and give it to the landless peasants. America would have been just as destroyed with them socialists around.

Hopefully trump wins, cuz otherwise we will have civil war #2 , and ill have to quit school to join the military junta

:picardfp: Take land and give it landless peasants? Please explain your "logic" if that's even remotely possible from an idiotic Trump supporter.

A 2nd Civil War? Let me guess you'll waive a Confederate flag and parade around "rolling coal" with NRA bumper stickers...SMH

No, we will most likely enter a 3rd World War if either of these assholes gets elected. And Putin will undoubtedly turn his back on Trump immediately.

Sanders was robbed by the DNC, and he is only backing Hillary because he knows (a hell of a lot more than you or I) what destruction a Trump presidency would mean. He knew he had to run democrat because of our fucked up two party system and yet and still they robbed his ass.

[S14kouki805]

Second this, Bernie may have been relatively honest compared to Hillary, but his entire campaign stood on the basis of giving millenials and 30 year old jobless bums who still live with their mom more handouts. People bitching about unfair wages and student loans are the ones graduating with useless liberal arts degrees thinking their entitled to well paying jobs after their four years of partying err leftist indoctrination err "hard work".

Not surprising you guys are both from Texas, how's that economy going over there anyway?? Felt any trickle down from Bush's nutsack yet?

[kashira kureijii]

Second this, Bernie may have been relatively honest compared to Hillary, but his entire campaign stood on the basis of giving millenials and 30 year old jobless bums who still live with their mom more handouts. People bitching about unfair wages and student loans are the ones graduating with useless liberal arts degrees thinking their entitled to well paying jobs after their four years of partying err leftist indoctrination err "hard work".



For sure, people always complain about not getting paid enough, but in turn display no initiative, make poor life decisions like get their high school girlfriend pregnant, and dont accept promotions or show pride in their work. People as a whole throughout history seem to be divided into this " i have to try hard and do my best so i can be the best" category or the " its the worlds fault, corporations arent paying me enough to not care, the world should just accept decadence and sloth because i do it" category.

[pacotaco345]

Not surprising you guys are both from Texas, how's that economy going over there anyway?? Felt any trickle down from Bush's nutsack yet?
I was born and raised in San Diego and moved to Texas for college because the education system in California is fucked. Now I'm in the military and stationed in SoCal again. Living was cheaper in Texas, jobs were easier to come by, you got paid less but literally everything was cheaper so it didn't really matter. The whole no income tax thing was nice too. Also you might wanna check to see how many companies are moving to Texas because of how much easier it is to run a business there. The only thing nicer about SoCal is the weather, the beach, and anime expo.

[kashira kureijii]

For sure toyota moved here as have many others,


Not surprising you guys are both from Texas, how's that economy going over there anyway?? Felt any trickle down from Bush's nutsack yet?





Also no, if anybody is gonna start ww3 its gonna be hillary, shes threatened russia numerous times, and is basically responsible for destabilizing the middle east( arab spring, isis, etc) with her shit policy decisions.

I was basically calling bernie a communist with that landless peasant thing, and since your a dip with no historical knowledge you didnt get it.




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[S14kouki805]

For sure, people always complain about not getting paid enough, but in turn display no initiative, make poor life decisions like get their high school girlfriend pregnant, and dont accept promotions or show pride in their work. People as a whole throughout history seem to be divided into this " i have to try hard and do my best so i can be the best" category or the " its the worlds fault, corporations arent paying me enough to not care, the world should just accept decadence and sloth because i do it" category.

Although this does have some merit it is simply not the case...

Large corporations are literally fucking people out of a decent wage. People talk about minimum wage all day while CFO's and CEO's laughing all the way to the bank (literally). Do you somehow think that it's fair that we have a system that allows a company like Walmart to pay slave wages to the uneducated essentially exploiting them? While you and I foot the bill in social services through income taxes.

The issue is that there is enormous income inequality in this country. I'm all for working hard and making your way to the top but the issue is how many people's backs you've stepped on to get there. There was time in this country when one could support his family and buy a home all on an honest hard earned living. Try that now.

Sorry Kashiriii whatever your name is but you have it all ass backwards.

[S14kouki805]

I was basically calling bernie a communist with that landless peasant thing, and since your a dip with no historical knowledge you didnt get it.

No historical knowledge? Please enlighten me oh enlightened one lol

Bernie is no commie, he wants what's fair for the PEOPLE, not some rich fucks who could a shit less about YOU or me.

[deolio]

not like bernie would have been able to get shit done in the white house anyway since everyone else is republican and complacent living in the stone age as long as the koch bro's keep paying for their trips to the bahamas.

[lunchmeat]

Right....because they stopped Barry in his tracks. Please. The only time the repubs fought back on something was to help them in elections. The rest of the time, they reached across the aisle to help fuck the country.

[rawgarage]

what ppl gon do when trump loses....

[exitspeed]

Interesting and totally expected, virtually everyone posting in this thread from California has the same, dismissive/enlightened, view. The rest of the low class, uneducated folks need them to think for them.

[lunchmeat]

Bitch and moan. I'm still hoping for a meteor strike in dc though.

[exitspeed]

what ppl gon do when trump loses....

The same thing Hilary supporters will do if she loses; move on with their lives. The world and this country won't stop after the election.

[kashira kureijii]

No historical knowledge? Please enlighten me oh enlightened one lol



Bernie is no commie, he wants what's fair for the PEOPLE, not some rich fucks who could a shit less about YOU or me.



All Commies in history started shit based on what was "fair" and the inherent "evil" of corporations. Making wages "fair" ends up the same thing as "hey that guy over there has more than 1 cow, we"ll have to execute him cuz he's exploiting us " Stalin/Mao style. Calling everyone in existence who is more successful a corrupt manipulator is another classic commie socialist move too.

"Real socialism has never been tried bro! Corporations are fucking us!"

Real leftist socialism has been tried and the result is the death of 70+ million people

Rich fucks dont need to give a fuck about you, why would they? Their responsibility is to do whats best for themselves just like every other creature on this planet

[pacotaco345]

Large corporations are literally fucking people out of a decent wage. People talk about minimum wage all day while CFO's and CEO's laughing all the way to the bank (literally). Do you somehow think that it's fair that we have a system that allows a company like Walmart to pay slave wages to the uneducated essentially exploiting them? While you and I foot the bill in social services through income taxes.

The issue is that there is enormous income inequality in this country. I'm all for working hard and making your way to the top but the issue is how many people's backs you've stepped on to get there. There was time in this country when one could support his family and buy a home all on an honest hard earned living. Try that now.
Why should you be able to support a family on minimum wage? The last time I worked a job that paid minimum wage I was 17. In between semesters in college I worked at a tire store in Texas where I started at 10/hr and was making 12.50/hr two months later. I made enough money to pay rent, eat and go drifting if I wanted to.

By the time you're in your 20s there's no excuse for you to either be a) not in school or b) working a minimum wage job. I have a friend who started popping rivets at the local airport when we graduated high school and now he makes 19/hr full time. He can pay rent and support his wife...

I'm 23 and I own a house and three cars. Sure I'm an idiot and I couldn't support anyone besides myself right now but if I wanted to settle down and support a family I could sell both my 240s and stop wasting money in that area of my life.

Bernie is no commie, he wants what's fair for the PEOPLE, not some rich fucks who could a shit less about YOU or me.
You don't care about those rich fucks so why should they care about you? Go ahead and raise taxes on those CEOs and watch what happens. We already have robots at McDonald's taking orders, self checkout lanes at grocery stores and people are bitching about that. Just wait until all those losers get replaced. Those big businesses don't owe you a job or a fair wage, just like you don't owe them your work if you don't think 8.25/hr is worth your time.

[lunchmeat]

Last time I worked a minimum wage job, it was $4.25 an hr.

[Bushido]

The only one talking any sense in here is S14kouki805.

USA is fucked and I'm moving to Europe.

[kashira kureijii]

The only one talking any sense in here is S14kouki805.

USA is fucked and I'm moving to Europe.


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[rawgarage]

The only one talking any sense in here is S14kouki805.

USA is fucked and I'm moving to Europe.

You ain't going no where.... sit yo $5 ass down before I make change...

[zombiewolf513]

Doubling the minimum wage:

American companies need to take cuts to pay all their people more. Hurting growth. Pressuring businesses to go overseas.

The government will be able to tax the people more. Hurting your shiny new wage.

Everything you buy is made in Japan, China, or Mexico. No shit America is beyond broke.

Minimum wage jobs are for first time workers or second jobs, not careers. This shit is survival of the fittest. You're owed nothing. And the fact is, the more people want for a minimum wage, the more of a cost justification companies have to spend the money automating everything. Fucking people out of jobs.

[deolio]

if no one is owed anything, then i guess you might as well kill yourself when you're injoured at work because FUCK YOU! YOU ARE NO LONGER FIT! some nazi ass shit.

[pacotaco345]

if no one is owed anything, then i guess you might as well kill yourself when you're injoured at work because FUCK YOU! YOU ARE NO LONGER FIT! some nazi ass shit.



This is why aflac and workers comp exist. Most people who complain just want a desk job anyways where the worst injury they'll get is lower back pain from sitting on their ass all day or carpel tunnel.


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[TMW]

Good news.

So, Colorado is now definitely in play for Trump.

That's a real plausible path to 270.

Also, just conjecture/speculation/word on the street is Assange has the 33k deleted emails. Maybe he does, maybe he doesn't, but it would be cool to see them dropped a few days before the 8th.

[kashira kureijii]

if no one is owed anything, then i guess you might as well kill yourself when you're injoured at work because FUCK YOU! YOU ARE NO LONGER FIT! some nazi ass shit.



Then don't get hurt..........

[exitspeed]

if no one is owed anything, then i guess you might as well kill yourself when you're injoured at work because FUCK YOU! YOU ARE NO LONGER FIT! some nazi ass shit.

Yeah I mean businesses pay for workers comp. It's also wise to have insurance. I'm a freelance photographer and I have a insurance policy that covers my income if I'm injured so my family isn't put in a tough place financially.

[Corbic]

Yeah I mean businesses pay for workers comp. It's also wise to have insurance. I'm a freelance photographer and I have a insurance policy that covers my income if I'm injured so my family isn't put in a tough place financially.



It's law to have health insurance now...

[MJenkins1101]

It's law to have health insurance now...

But it isn't legally required to buy disability income insurance to protect your family. I know so many people that didn't, and screwed themselves over.

[STR8 H8N]

But it isn't legally required to buy disability income insurance to protect your family. I know so many people that didn't, and screwed themselves over.

soooooooooooooooooo

[exitspeed]

But it isn't legally required to buy disability income insurance to protect your family. I know so many people that didn't, and screwed themselves over.

Yeah my bad, I was referring to disability insurance.

[Future240]

Yeah my bad, I was referring to disability insurance.

I have 60% though my job and I've been thinking about getting more as 60% would make things really hard.

[FaLKoN240]

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[R3b]

Kanye/Cudi 2020

[TMW]

qe9blE0liN0

lmao

10char

[MJenkins1101]

I have 60% though my job and I've been thinking about getting more as 60% would make things really hard.

Yeah, it's typically a good idea to supplement what work offers, and it is not cost prohibitive. I spend about $40 a month on a plan that provides sufficient coverage for our family budget. I have very little coverage on my wife, because I am the sole provider.

[exitspeed]

Not surprising you guys are both from Texas, how's that economy going over there anyway?? Felt any trickle down from Bush's nutsack yet?

Just saw this...

Um, yeah they have actually.

http://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2016/cb16-81.html

Meanwhile the film industry (there will however always be Hollywood) and the rich are leaving California quicker than Hilary deletes emails.

[ghost_silvia]

Tell Californian hipster millenials to stay where they're at! Raising the cost of living and causing gentrification. Eventually Texas will be used up of our natural resources and polluted beyond repair. It's ok for them, they'll just move on to the next hotspot like the nomads they are.
Oh yeah screw both major parties! Voting Jill Stein. We need to restructer our government.

[rawgarage]

Voting Jill Stein. We need to restructer our government.

thats just a vote for trump....

go listen to how she doesn't understand where to get the money for wiping student debt.... john oliver cut her ass up...

[ghost_silvia]

thats just a vote for trump....
At least I will be able to bitch about the elected candidate.

[ghost_silvia]

At least I will be able to bitch about the elected candidate.

go listen to how she doesn't understand where to get the money for wiping student debt.... john oliver cut her ass up...
I like John Oliver but no candidate knows how everything works,thats why they have staff. Also his only other opinion on her was that she made bad music.[/QUOTE]

[Grenade180sx]

If anyone thinks they are owed shit in this life,well you got anotha thing coming....

And please stop saying well back then you could survive off minimum wage and now you cant... heres some help, if you feel youre worth 100k a year job then prove to an employer that you have the skill set to do so..


Personal accountability is a dying breed these days. You either put in the work with the freedom to choose your education path or you settle whats attainable at your skill level without it.

Is the "system" rigged? Sure thats life, you want to change that? This is one of the few countries that you can by getting into office with the right background.

[lunchmeat]

Which is exactly why I've been studying my ass off for a certification that could double my yearly income. Take it Monday. Pass it, and I could have a new job before the end of the year.

[exitspeed]

Which is exactly why I've been studying my ass off for a certification that could double my yearly income. Take it Monday. Pass it, and I could have a new job before the end of the year.


My wife works for one of the worlds largest consulting firms. She was making k money for a while, applied for a real estate consulting roll that would double her salary. But they told her company policy was consultants have to have a BA and she only had an Associates.

Instead of pissing and moaning about it, she went back to school and got it. We also had our second child at that time. Less than 2 years later they moved her up and doubled her salary. She's amazing at her career and less than 2 years later her salary doubled again. Less than 2 years after that her income doubled again and she's in Management. Oh AND we had another kid. She's anticipating in less than 2 years she'll be in the companies second to highest level. She meets with CEOs and CFOs of some of the biggest companies in the world and gets them to follow her plans. It's nothing short of fucking amazing.

It not about where you grew up, how you grew up, what type of genitalia you have or the color of your skin. Life is what you make it. Some people get it handed to them and others have to work their ass off for it. But you CAN work for it in America.

[TMW]

Less than 2 years later they moved her up and doubled her salary. She's amazing at her career and less than 2 years later her salary doubled again. Less than 2 years after that her income doubled again and she's in Management. Oh AND we had another kid. She's anticipating in less than 2 years she'll be in the companies second to highest level. She meets with CEOs and CFOs of some of the biggest companies in the world and gets them to follow her plans. It's nothing short of fucking amazing.

thats a lot of salary doubling.

[zombiewolf513]

Why hasn't the government doubled MY salary?!

[rawgarage]

thats a lot of salary doubling.

Exactly... wonder who paid for that schooling

[jumboflan]

Well this is pretty typical behaviour during election time! Lol! My personal conversation with my friends pretty much sum up everything in this thread!people making fun of trump! People making fun of Hillary Clinton! I just want the election over! So my friend won't indoctrinate me with his beliefs! I'm sick of the 8am texts debating this shit and that! K so what if Donald Trump builds a wall! He won't it's too infeasible! Money will not be taxed leaving us to Mexico! He isn't getting money from the Mexican president(5-10billion). Hillary isn't that bad for having private email server! Hell I want one too! She isn't the devil or Satan like the press is calling her campaign manager! Donald Trump didn't sexually assaulted women! It's a setup! They Hillary side are probably paying those women to accuse him!

[lunchmeat]

The issue isn't that she had a private email server. I don't give a shit about the server. The problem is that it was used to transmit unsecured, government communications, which at least 5 foreign entities gained access to, then she tried to cover it up...poorly.
Infosec is part of what I do for a living, so I can't ignore it. Nor refuse to.

[exitspeed]

Exactly... wonder who paid for that schooling

Ummm, we are.

[supersayianjim]

My wife works for one of the worlds largest consulting firms. She was making k money for a while, applied for a real estate consulting roll that would double her salary. But they told her company policy was consultants have to have a BA and she only had an Associates.

Instead of pissing and moaning about it, she went back to school and got it. We also had our second child at that time. Less than 2 years later they moved her up and doubled her salary. She's amazing at her career and less than 2 years later her salary doubled again. Less than 2 years after that her income doubled again and she's in Management. Oh AND we had another kid. She's anticipating in less than 2 years she'll be in the companies second to highest level. She meets with CEOs and CFOs of some of the biggest companies in the world and gets them to follow her plans. It's nothing short of fucking amazing.

It not about where you grew up, how you grew up, what type of genitalia you have or the color of your skin. Life is what you make it. Some people get it handed to them and others have to work their ass off for it. But you CAN work for it in America.

obviously it was also "who you know" that played a part in that.

[exitspeed]

obviously it was also "who you know" that played a part in that.

She actually didn't know anyone at the company before getting hired by them.

[Frank_Jaeger]

Trump! Trump! Trump! Trump!

[exitspeed]

I'm not celebrating shit yet.

[spooled240]

My god was anyone expecting this?!

[exitspeed]

My god was anyone expecting this?!

No. No. No.

MY state, WI hasn't gone Red since Regan.

[roninwon]

Heard Canada's immagration website crashed. Sorry y'all broke guys won't be heading up there.

[spooled240]

No. No. No.

MY state, WI hasn't gone Red since Regan.
The american revolution has begun

[lunchmeat]

What surprised me was the number of people I saw voting. I've never seen my polling place that packed.

[deolio]

at least the marijuanas are legal here now i guess ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[pacotaco345]

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[KiLLeR2001]

Cubs win the World Series. Trump wins the Presidency. Can this year get any more historical? :)

[deolio]

iq levels in america have hit a historic all-time low?

[Frank_Jaeger]

iq levels in america have hit a historic all-time low?
Considering the majority were able to see through the overwhelming media manipulation I'm actually proud. The only people I see whining about the results are people I've never considered that bright to begin with.

[zombiewolf513]

Considering the majority were able to see through the overwhelming media manipulation I'm actually proud. The only people I see whining about the results are people I've never considered that bright to begin with.

That about sums up the election

I think the people that label themselves dems will come to find that people you CAN label republican/conservative aren't the boogie man. His speech was awesome, his presidency actually isn't unheard of, he has a lot of eyes on him and we'll see if he can do what he says he wants to if he can get the support.

Incredible the hypocritical trump naysayers already that were so ready for tolerance and unity, but probably will never be tolerant so long as the tables aren't turned how they want em.

And a special thanks to the AZ voters that voted to make everything more expensive by raising minimum wage to $12

[zeitgeist]

Lol you think he's going to bring back jobs

Im interested in seeing his secret plans unfold

[exitspeed]

iq levels in america have hit a historic all-time low?

Typical.

More like the level of Americans tired of Washington bullshit is at a all-time high.

[rawgarage]

Fuck man.

How did this shit happen....

I woke up and looked at the shit and instantly feel like I got partnered up with the kid who does no work in school and the project due tomorrow... fuck man

[kashira kureijii]

Dude, today is a historic victory for memes.

I never thought he could do it, i regret not voting. I did spread memes though, that kinda counts right?


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[exitspeed]

Fuck man.

How did this shit happen....

I woke up and looked at the shit and instantly feel like I got partnered up with the kid who does no work in school and the project due tomorrow... fuck man

People are fed up with corrupt Washington. No one embodied that more than Hilary. She was a horrible candidate with an unlikable personality. She was not Obama in a pants suite. The people spoke and now it's time to come TOGETHER. Obama had a chance to unit this country but failed and left us more divisive than we've been since the Civil War.

Time to move on and see what an outsider can do.

Let's blow up that tax code President Trump!!!

[STR8 H8N]

http://www.thetrumptimes.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/image-2.jpeg

[TheRealSy90]

Arizona is a fucking disappointment. I can't believe people voted to raise the minimum wage to $12... IDIOTS.
So long to the cheap cost of living we were known for.
Too many high school dropouts seeking a fucking handout cause they don't want to work for it.
I had to work hard to get to the pay I make and now entry level employees get to just make more money for no damn reason. It infuriates me.

[Tucker240]

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[rawgarage]

People are fed up with corrupt Washington. No one embodied that more than Hilary. She was a horrible candidate with an unlikable personality. She was not Obama in a pants suite. The people spoke and now it's time to come TOGETHER. Obama had a chance to unit this country but failed and left us more divisive than we've been since the Civil War.

Time to move on and see what an outsider can do.

Let's blow up that tax code President Trump!!!

Agreed but you can't blame Obama for divibding the US....


Racism and classism have been around way before his 8 years

[spooled240]

Arizona is a fucking disappointment. I can't believe people voted to raise the minimum wage to $12... IDIOTS.
So long to the cheap cost of living we were known for.
Too many high school dropouts seeking a fucking handout cause they don't want to work for it.
I had to work hard to get to the pay I make and now entry level employees get to just make more money for no damn reason. It infuriates me.

aaand AZ didn't vote for the legalization of marijuana. Dafuq

[Jefro240]

Heard Canada's immagration website crashed. Sorry y'all broke guys won't be heading up there.

Yea, we're closed.

It's funny so many say they want to move up to Canada. I'd love to move down south strictly because of our BS gun laws.

[exitspeed]

Agreed but you can't blame Obama for divibding the US....


Racism and classism have been around way before his 8 years

The country is far more divisive right now. More than it's been as long as I've been alive. He had an opportunity to unite us further but chose to fan the flames every chance he got. Racism will always exist. A leader like Obama should have used the opportunity of being the first black president as an opportunity of real hope and change. Instead there was only negative change and folks are still left with no hope.

[Future240]

She was a horrible candidate with an unlikable personality. She was not Obama in a pants suite


Quoted for truth.


Like his policies or not, Obama had swag. He has a way with people. He had no drama, no scandal.


HRC has had tales of her being a bitch to secret service, benzai scandal. email scandal, health concerns, the collusion scandal with the DNC to burn Bernie, she called Trump supporters deplorable, Bernie supporters basement dwells who live with their mom. I mean she is just all around not a likeable person.


They wanted us to rally around her. While I am surprised Trump won I cannot say that it is shocking. The more you think about it, the more sense it actually makes.

[spooled240]

Hopefully Trump stays true to all the things he proposed. With the majority of the House being Republican he should have the upper hand there.

[ZenkiKid]

HRC has had tales of her being a bitch to secret service, benzai scandal. email scandal, health concerns, the collusion scandal with the DNC to burn Bernie, she called Trump supporters deplorable, Bernie supporters basement dwells who live with their mom. I mean she is just all around not a likeable person.


They wanted us to rally around her. While I am surprised Trump won I cannot say that it is shocking. The more you think about it, the more sense it actually makes.

The only thing Im really shocked about is how wide of a margin he won by.

The Bengazi issues, FBI probe, and Podesta emails hit her campaign hard.

It was either we got a D-bag with no verbal filter, or we get an individual who probably should be doing time in Federal prison

[zombiewolf513]

Like his policies or not, Obama had swag. He has a way with people. He had no drama, no scandal.

The more you think about it, the more sense it actually makes.

I thought so too until that crowd completely, disrespectfully ignored POTUS about the trump protester. He's a straw man for a public sense of accomplishment, history for the sake of history, the rest has been business as usual. I'll defend Obama and say that he did appear to have tried to handle a historically stressful presidency even though I dislike many of his policies. Trump has a lot to prove, I hope he pulls it off and everyone should be rooting for the country and for him to do right by us, regardless of if you wanted him or not.

People had/have the same 'I hate ___' issue with Obama from start to end of his presidency that people are now showing for Trump. The people that claim to want inclusiveness can't regress to that behavior them self if true progress is going to get made.

People can rise to the occasion, come in clutch, and disprove everyone. Time will tell. Time will also tell what will happen to that yellow mallard on his head.

[Future240]

The only thing Im really shocked about is how wide of a margin he won by.

The Bengazi issues, FBI probe, and Podesta emails hit her campaign hard.

It was either we got a D-bag with no verbal filter, or we get an individual who probably should be doing time in Federal prison


Dude me too. I checked in and was like :eek:. I could not believe he was just dominating pretty much the whole time. Like Exit said, people are just fed up with more of the same.


I thought so too until that crowd completely, disrespectfully ignored POTUS about the trump protester. He's a straw man for a public sense of accomplishment, history for the sake of history, the rest has been business as usual. I'll defend Obama and say that he did appear to have tried to handle a historically stressful presidency even though I dislike many of his policies. Trump has a lot to prove, I hope he pulls it off and everyone should be rooting for the country and for him to do right by us, regardless of if you wanted him or not.

People had/have the same 'I hate ___' issue with Obama from start to end of his presidency that people are now showing for Trump. The people that claim to want inclusiveness can't regress to that behavior them self if true progress is going to get made.

People can rise to the occasion, come in clutch, and disprove everyone. Time will tell.


Agreed. Obama IMO was nothing horrible nothing special. Cool guy, good delivery on speeches and written for him comedy sketches but president wise meh.


I did not vote for Trump however he won so I very curious to see how it will rule. I like some of his idea, a lot I don't (islam ban for instance).


I have a tin foil hat theory that some of Trump's more outrageous claims are full of shit and he knows it. He just said it to get elected because he knows how to work the media and public. Once in office he will take some liberal and conservative stances. Again this is my own tin foil hat theory.


If he tones down the alt right nonsense he could make a pretty decent president.

[deolio]

The people spoke and now it's time to come TOGETHER.

yes, the people did speak and they voted for hillary, but she didn't get the electoral votes so...

i can't imagine the people who voted for trump wanting to come together with poc, lgbt+, millennials, immigrants, or anyone who didn't support him after he spent his entire campaign making them look scary :ugh:

[TheRealSy90]

The electoral votes available aren't regularly increased or adjusted to match with the population increases. Thus it's possible to win the popular vote but not enough electoral votes. Easy stuff.

[zombiewolf513]

i can't imagine the people who voted for trump wanting to come together with poc, lgbt+, millennials, immigrants, or anyone who didn't support him after he spent his entire campaign making them look scary :ugh:

You have that ass backward. What Trump said in his speech at 3AM ET was why the people voted for him. Not the bigotous monster his opposition wants trump to be.

Fitting 3 of those groups you mentioned, I know the hype you're talking about, and I think it's bullshit. it's ignorant, and it's divisive. And I've been hearing it all day from libs and dems. It seems like the hardcore dems and libs really love the irony of being bigots and pointing out perceivable bigotry. Not saying that all applies to you deolio, but this is loud noises.

They want trump to be the badguy so they can play off it and look like the good guy. And they've fooled millions, but not enough.

Plus Hillary conceded, she didn't need to and you could stand on the popular vote leg if she didn't, but she did. They aren't done counting votes yet anyway.
And the popular vote would need less than 1% margin of error to be truly considered accurate at this point in time. That by all means goes to the electoral college decision.

[exitspeed]

yes, the people did speak and they voted for hillary, but she didn't get the electoral votes so...

i can't imagine the people who voted for trump wanting to come together with poc, lgbt+, millennials, immigrants, or anyone who didn't support him after he spent his entire campaign making them look scary :ugh:

Trump is THE most liberal Republican we've ever elected. The guy spent his WHOLE damn life as a NU Democrate. He's pro gay marriage, pro weed legalization just to name a couple things. The reason so many conservatives (including myself) had a hard time coming around to Trump is because he's never had conservative or republican views until recently.

[Future240]

Trump is THE most liberal Republican we've ever elected. The guy spent his WHOLE damn life as a NU Democrate. He's pro gay marriage, pro weed legalization just to name a couple things. The reason so many conservatives (including myself) had a hard time coming around to Trump is because he's never had conservative or republican views until recently.



As a centrist this is the exact reason why I had a hard time coming around to Trump.


You don't spend your life one way wake up one day and just decided. Nope fuck all that.


Hence my tinfoil hat theory I posted earlier.

[zombiewolf513]

I don't trust him to not have hidden agendas. He is for himself above all else. His views have all.flip flopped the last few years to fit the majority.

The main one being his view on the 2nd amendment. Not trust worthy, not getting my vote unless he's going up against Hilary or sanders

Did you end up supporting him?

[KAT-PWR]

Just remember Trump or Hillary racists are gonna race

[kashira kureijii]

If he tones down the alt right nonsense he could make a pretty decent president.


Man this was all i really liked about him, im afraid the far right we were developing will die now , as many people were just reactionaries.
Hopefully our fascism endures, im fine with all the non-islamic racism dying off though, racism is just shameful and brings undue criticism, theres no need to be racist if everyone assimilates and contributes.

Im hoping the islam ban goes ahead, cuz my hometown has a huge Somali muslim population that they brought in under the pretext of "christian refugees". All of them are on welfare, and they are constantly causing criminal problems for our police. A while back one of their 14 year old "wives" was dumped on the street beat to shit, and the police werent allowed to prosecute anybody, cuz its just their "culture". The hospital also has to constantly deal with genital mutilation cases. They were supposed to work at this slaughter plant, and all of them quit, so they brought in a bunch of really cool and really hard working burmese people to work instead.
The muslims just sorta live in their ghetto now, causing problems and shit.

No one gets along with muslims, christians dont, Sikhs dont, hindus dont, jews dont, hell not even buddhists can tolerate em ,there is mass anti muslim sentiment in burma and thailand.

The ones you may know seem alright cuz they know they"re the minority, but when they become the majority they"re gonna rape your freakin children fam.

The world would lose absolutely nothing if muslims never existed



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[FaLKoN240]

Small sample of Muslims in your little Texas town...

I'm sure that's how ALL Muslims are.

Man this was all i really liked about him, im afraid the far right we were developing will die now , as many people were just reactionaries.
Hopefully our fascism endures, im fine with all the non-islamic racism dying off though, racism is just shameful and brings undue criticism, theres no need to be racist if everyone assimilates and contributes.

Im hoping the islam ban goes ahead, cuz my hometown has a huge Somali muslim population that they brought in under the pretext of "christian refugees". All of them are on welfare, and they are constantly causing criminal problems for our police. A while back one of their 14 year old "wives" was dumped on the street beat to shit, and the police werent allowed to prosecute anybody, cuz its just their "culture". The hospital also has to constantly deal with genital mutilation cases. They were supposed to work at this slaughter plant, and all of them quit, so they brought in a bunch of really cool and really hard working burmese people to work instead.
The muslims just sorta live in their ghetto now, causing problems and shit.

No one gets along with muslims, christians dont, Sikhs dont, hindus dont, jews dont, hell not even buddhists can tolerate em ,there is mass anti muslim sentiment in burma and thailand.

The ones you may know seem alright cuz they know they"re the minority, but when they become the majority they"re gonna rape your freakin children fam.

The world would lose absolutely nothing if muslims never existed



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[kashira kureijii]

Small sample of Muslims in your little Texas town...

I'm sure that's how ALL Muslims are.

well then look at larger samples in europe, same result mod fam

also its a pretty big town, around 250k at any time

[zombiewolf513]

Your Muslim opinion is as ignorant as peoples' Trump supporter/deplorable generalization. Tit for tat?

[kashira kureijii]

Your Muslim opinion is as ignorant as peoples' Trump supporter/deplorable generalization. Tit for tat?

I mean I do have actual negative experience to express, dunno how many racists hillary has actually met other than herself and her party.

I wasn't saying yall can't think however you want, I was just saying that there are those of us who would be for the ban.

Immigration as whole needs to get overhauled to its old ways, when my grandparents came from holland, they had to list a sponsor they had, what their job would be, and had to sign a document swearing never to go on government assistance within 10 years of staying.They never went on any assistance during their lifetime, and refused to teach their children the old language. In other words, assimilated without being fucking cancer.

You also used to have to sign a thing that said you weren't communist, and I see no difference between asking people if they're communist and asking them if they're islamist when they come in. Both could be termed political ideologies

also that sucks that Arizona passed 12$ minimum wage. Something like that would kill businesses like agriculture, who rely on cheap labor.

I'm also surprised at the number of hispanic males that voted for trump, I thought they'd buy into that propoganda entirely, but almost 30-40% of hispanic male voters voted for trump, good on them for making their own decisions.

[KiLLeR2001]

http://i.imgur.com/fdgt4hB.jpg

[Frank_Jaeger]

yes, the people did speak and they voted for hillary, but she didn't get the electoral votes so...

i can't imagine the people who voted for trump wanting to come together with poc, lgbt+, millennials, immigrants, or anyone who didn't support him after he spent his entire campaign making them look scary :ugh:
And here I thought he was just after illegal immigrants.

[rawgarage]

Islamophobia is real.

Just cuz you've had a few bad experiences with some shitty Ppl doesn't mean you group and label them all the same....

[SimpleS14]

I have a tin foil hat theory that some of Trump's more outrageous claims are full of shit and he knows it. He just said it to get elected because he knows how to work the media and public. Once in office he will take some liberal and conservative stances. Again this is my own tin foil hat theory.

My theory: He'll have the VP do the legwork. Also agreeing (for the most part) with the advice of his cabinet, Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leader.

Speaking of cabinet, it will be very interesting to see who he has in mind.

Overall, I'm just keeping an open mind in all this and seeing how it will all play out.

I also wonder if he will establish a blind trust. A part of me thinks "No." as he's been against the norms throughout this whole campaign. Some potentially serious conflict of interest might arise.


Islamophobia is real.

Just cuz you've had a few bad experiences with some shitty Ppl doesn't mean you group and label them all the same....


100% agree....

[collegekid]

Fuck man.

How did this shit happen....

I woke up and looked at the shit and instantly feel like I got partnered up with the kid who does no work in school and the project due tomorrow... fuck man
How I have handled that in the past is by going directly to the professor and telling them the truth and not including that persons name on the paper. Pain in the ass but worth it.

Hopefully Trump stays true to all the things he proposed. With the majority of the House being Republican he should have the upper hand there.

That can go so many ways.
-He can end up being another puppet
-He can use the republican domination for good or bad
-He can make small but noticeable changes such as tightening up the border instead of building his dream wall
-He can also not do anything he said he would do like many presidents, empty promises especially from him can be good and bad depending on which of his promises you choose to argue.


I mean I do have actual negative experience to express, dunno how many racists hillary has actually met other than herself and her party.

I wasn't saying yall can't think however you want, I was just saying that there are those of us who would be for the ban.

Immigration as whole needs to get overhauled to its old ways, when my grandparents came from holland, they had to list a sponsor they had, what their job would be, and had to sign a document swearing never to go on government assistance within 10 years of staying.They never went on any assistance during their lifetime, and refused to teach their children the old language. In other words, assimilated without being fucking cancer.

You also used to have to sign a thing that said you weren't communist, and I see no difference between asking people if they're communist and asking them if they're islamist when they come in. Both could be termed political ideologies

also that sucks that Arizona passed 12$ minimum wage. Something like that would kill businesses like agriculture, who rely on cheap labor.



I'm with you on true immigration reform. My parents came legally and havent been on any government aid or ever caused problems. I also know a lot of illegals who just want the shitty ass jobs Americans don't want and I've got no problem with an illegal immigrant doing dishes, working in a cheap motel, farm, or selling fruit on the side of the highway which are most jobs taken by the south American II's ( illegal immigrants). There are actually a growing number of European II's who are taking good paying jobs, which has yet to be acknowledged by anyone.

Honestly I am about 5% concerned with II's when there is already a huge cancer stateside. These people do not have a specific skin color or religious belief but they do hinder progress in our country. It's these ignorant, uneducated, classless scumbags that are ruining this beautiful place. I can give multiple examples of this but I just need to sleep right now.


I do want to comment on the minimum wage issue in regards with rising inflation and what I feel a person working full time minimum wage should be but I'm unsure whether or not to post it here, dig up an old thread from 2008 or start a new thread.

[exitspeed]

https://assets.donaldjtrump.com/_landings/contract/O-TRU-102316-Contractv02.pdf

This is exactly why he got my vote. I don't know how much of this is possible but there's a lot of really good stuff here.

Nowhere here is there a plan to take away gay marriage or LGBT rights, make marijuana illegal again, or make it mandatory that all women must be grabbed by the pussy at any given time.

[Future240]

Man this was all i really liked about him, im afraid the far right we were developing will die now , as many people were just reactionaries.


The world would lose absolutely nothing if muslims never existed



http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/01/29/muslim.inventions/


Small sample of Muslims in your little Texas town...

I'm sure that's how ALL Muslims are.

Your Muslim opinion is as ignorant as peoples' Trump supporter/deplorable generalization. Tit for tat?

Islamophobia is real.

Just cuz you've had a few bad experiences with some shitty Ppl doesn't mean you group and label them all the same....


EXACTLY. Saying all muslims are bad because a small sect of the muslim population are doing bad things shows a fundamental lack of understanding.


It would be like saying southern white people are bad because of the KKK
Black/latino people are bad because of gangs. Police are bad because of a few bad officers. It just does not work.

My theory: He'll have the VP do the legwork. Also agreeing (for the most part) with the advice of his cabinet, Speaker of the House and Senate Majority Leader.

Speaking of cabinet, it will be very interesting to see who he has in mind.

Overall, I'm just keeping an open mind in all this and seeing how it will all play out.

I also wonder if he will establish a blind trust. A part of me thinks "No." as he's been against the norms throughout this whole campaign. Some potentially serious conflict of interest might arise.



All speculation but interesting non the less


http://www.politico.com/story/2016/11/who-is-in-president-trump-cabinet-231071

[STR8 H8N]

i jus heard trump is goin to let us import cars now easier

[Frank_Jaeger]

i jus heard trump is goin to let us import cars now easier
i heard this too

[exitspeed]

Link? There's no reason it should be so difficult.

[kashira kureijii]

[URL]http://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/meast/01/29/muslim.]


This is like 10 minor things compared to like the million things western civilization has invented/developed. Also its compiled by CNN.
They didnt invent the fucking flying machine, if they did, they wouldn't be running around on camels and shit before there was western influence. Flying machine designs go way back to greek times. They didnt invent algebra and mathematics, what is listed is a single minor contribution . Greeks(pythagorean theoream) and the chinese(abacus) had already been doing math shit for like 1500 years when this shit came about. As for the invention of "hospitals" that is complete bullshit, they just say that the arabic arrangement of hospitals kinda reflects modern hospitals, not the technology medicine etc. Hospitals/doctors had been in existence for a long time with Hippocrates and medicine in pre-islamic Egypt.

The whole list is just drivel to discourage people from arriving at conclusions based on historic knowledge. The discrepancy between western invention and the rest of the world is titanic.
Microbiology, physics,chemistry, nuclear power, aerospace, engineering, medicine, 99% of all development in these areas came from western sources.

All they could come up with for muslim "invention" was a super shitty list of 10, i could list like 500 great western inventions off the top of my head.

This is like saying you think the history channel is a vital source of understanding.

Yall are just infected with this silly idea of tolerance, even when you have nothing to gain from it, and you actually lose out. Dont be freakin simple and say "not all people are bad, bla bla" not all communists could be termed "bad" I'm sure some just wanted equality and shit, but the idea led to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people.

Dont be so basic about shit, read history and understand how things developed the way they did, instead of just listing idiotic popular culture propaganda.

Millions of western people died to prevent muslims from destroying western culture, without them there would no Zilvia, there would be no cars, there would be no election. Dont spit on 1000"s of years of sacrifice over this disney channel bullshit.

[ZenkiKid]

" FIRST, I will announce my intention to renegotiate NAFTA or withdraw from the deal under Article 2205

* SECOND, I will announce our withdrawal from the Trans-Pacific Partnership"

These scare me a bit...

[Future240]

This is like 10 minor things compared to like the million things western civilization has invented/developed. Also its compiled by CNN.
They didnt invent the fucking flying machine, if they did, they wouldn't be running around on camels and shit before there was western influence. Flying machine designs go way back to greek times. They didnt invent algebra and mathematics, what is listed is a single minor contribution . Greeks(pythagorean theoream) and the chinese(abacus) had already been doing math shit for like 1500 years when this shit came about. As for the invention of "hospitals" that is complete bullshit, they just say that the arabic arrangement of hospitals kinda reflects modern hospitals, not the technology medicine etc. Hospitals/doctors had been in existence for a long time with Hippocrates and medicine in pre-islamic Egypt.

The whole list is just drivel to discourage people from arriving at conclusions based on historic knowledge. The discrepancy between western invention and the rest of the world is titanic.
Microbiology, physics,chemistry, nuclear power, aerospace, engineering, medicine, 99% of all development in these areas came from western sources.

All they could come up with for muslim "invention" was a super shitty list of 10, i could list like 500 great western inventions off the top of my head.

This is like saying you think the history channel is a vital source of understanding.

Yall are just infected with this silly idea of tolerance, even when you have nothing to gain from it, and you actually lose out. Dont be freakin simple and say "not all people are bad, bla bla" not all communists could be termed "bad" I'm sure some just wanted equality and shit, but the idea led to the deaths of hundreds of millions of people.

Dont be so basic about shit, read history and understand how things developed the way they did, instead of just listing idiotic popular culture propaganda.

Millions of western people died to prevent muslims from destroying western culture, without them there would no Zilvia, there would be no cars, there would be no election. Dont spit on 1000"s of years of sacrifice over this disney channel bullshit.



Basic? I laugh at the thought of a person who is vilifying an entire religion based on an extremely small minority of its believers calling me basic.


Your hate mongering for Islam shows no bounds.


I often wondered if you were just trolling. Now I see you are just unintelligent. Sad really.


Millions of western people died to prevent muslims from taking over? Hahaha you sound like a Breitbart article.

[Highway Riding]

The ban on muslims has been dropped from his site. People shouldn't take him so literally. He pandered to the right and won. Now he can focus on the one thing he personally will be good at. The economy. The wall be a 4ft fence, don't see roe vs wade making it to the top of the agenda and he will not deport everyone day one. As an American you have to respect the country's decision and give him a chance. The fact that fancy pants trudeau wants to renogiate nafta and Price alwaleed was tossing his salad all morning should be proof that this is the new reality!

[STR8 H8N]

20k votes for harambe ???

[kashira kureijii]

Millions of western people died to prevent muslims from taking over? Hahaha you sound like a Breitbart article.


Because they have......... your the one who is being unintelligent . The crusades, the wars in Spain, Illyria, charles martel, lots of Mediterranean wars, the byzantines, etc etc.



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[Zachsta]

Because they have......... your the one who is being unintelligent . The crusades, the wars in Spain, Illyria, charles martel, lots of Mediterranean wars, the byzantines, etc etc.



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Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't pretty much most of that stuff you're talking about from 70+ years ago, at the earliest?

Times have changed.

Also, you're*

[Future240]

Because they have......... your the one who is being unintelligent . The crusades, the wars in Spain, Illyria, charles martel, lots of Mediterranean wars, the byzantines, etc etc.



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You are trying to defend your point by pulling examples from before 1000 AD?


If that is the case Oh shit we better watch out for the Catholics too.


I will conceded the point that islam has a dark history but to denounced the entire religion and its people due to the actions of the few is still bigoted and narrow minded.


To make you see your own logic see this example.


Some people hate all police because some police have a history of abusing power and unjust killings.


Using my logic


Some people dislike some police departments and/or officers because those departments and officers have histories of abusing power and unjust killings.

[FaLKoN240]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't pretty much most of that stuff you're talking about from 70+ years ago, at the earliest?

Times have changed.

Also, you're*

The boy cares not for grammar

[pacotaco345]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't pretty much most of that stuff you're talking about from 70+ years ago, at the earliest?

Times have changed.

Also, you're*
Time for me to be labeled as a racist... Correct me if I'm wrong but slavery hasn't been practiced in America in 70+ years, at the earliest. But it still resonates badly in the vast majority of blacks in America.

"Times have changed"

Now before everyone calls me a white supremacist, I do think racial/religious/gender issues still exist in America but there has to be a limit on how far we can bend as a nation before we just turn into a bunch of limp dicked pansies. Gays wanna marry, cool. You think you were born in the wrong body, whatever. Women/blacks/mexicans/anyone besides a white male gets paid less than a white male, we're working on it. As long as it wont affect our well-being who are we to stop forward progress of equality.

When we're at war with nations who are predominately Muslim MAYBE it makes a bit of sense to start screening them harder when trying to enter our country. Are the crusades and several other battles between Western and Middle Eastern culture in the past? Yes. Does that mean that everything is kosher and we're ready to start letting them flock into our country while a significant amount (note I said significant NOT a majority) want to see our way of life slowly crumble? I don't think so. I'm sure not every galaxy note 7 will explode when you put it on an airplane but those have been banned because 1/1000 blowing up in flight has been deemed a great enough risk to justify keeping them off.

[kashira kureijii]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't pretty much most of that stuff you're talking about from 70+ years ago, at the earliest?



Times have changed.



Also, you're*



Within 100 years we"ve had the Armenian genocide, the murder of the dutch by muslim Malaysians, the current murder, violence toward, and expulsion of , ancient christian communities all across the middle east, etc etc. Christians still face religious persecution in almost all muslim countries. They will never be as tolerant of us as you perceive us to be as tolerant toward them. They don't tolerate people who have no religion either, in case you were thinking you"ll be fine. Also , most Muslim countries have no tolerance of women, gays, etc

Im not saying like "hey lets murder everyone who's muslim", I"m just saying trying to accept them is like mixing oil and water


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[kashira kureijii]

"times have changed" " bro you can't just make assumptions about everybody" "your grammar sucks haha"





y'all are fucking sheep



just because it didn't happen in the last 24 hours or some shit, doesn't mean the damage just goes away

Google image search Armenian genocide, and christian persecution in the middle east.

I kinda didnt think about people looking at shit while at work, so im sorry. I took that shit down, thats reality though, i was just trying to work off of shock factor.

[deolio]

it's ignorant, and it's divisive.

my post was hyperbole, but uhhh just to play devil's advocate - how is saying trump is intolerant divisive? just look at everything he's done and said over the years. can anyone really argue that it isn't a fact? legitimately want to know :)

[Juantwo3]

get those dead kids off zilvia wth is the matter with you.

[spooled240]

just got fired, thanks fam

just kidding didn't fired

[deolio]

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