View Full Version : what do I need for a racing seat?
89hatchman
06-11-2013, 12:34 PM
Just the seat, bracket and harness, correct?
Would these work together?
Corbeau Forza Fixed Back Racing Seat - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/Corbeau-Forza-Fixed-Back-Racing-Seat.html)
Circuit Sports Super Low Double Lock Seat Rail - Nissan 240SX S13/S14 89-98 - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/Circuit-Sports-Super-Low-Double-Lock-Seat-Rail-%252d-Nissan-240SX-S13%7B47%7DS14-89%252d98.html)
OMP Road 4 4-Point Street Harness - Enjuku Racing Parts, LLC (http://www.enjukuracing.com/products/OMP-Road-4-4%252dPoint-Street-Harness.html)
And is there a way to mount the harness without a cage or a rear strut bar? Can I bolt it to the seat and the oem seatbelt points?
91240coupe
06-11-2013, 12:37 PM
that should be everything you need.
and about the harness there should be some hooks or something under the rear seats.
94spitfire91
06-11-2013, 12:38 PM
Do some research on why it is unsafe to install a harness without a bar at an appropriate height for a good angle behind your seat. Take it into consideration
SuperDown
06-11-2013, 12:45 PM
I'd just run the stock seat belt til you get a harness bar. When used improperly the harness can hurt you more then help.
89hatchman
06-11-2013, 01:08 PM
I'd just run the stock seat belt til you get a harness bar. When used improperly the harness can hurt you more then help.
I've heard harness bars are sketchy.
89hatchman
06-11-2013, 01:14 PM
wait a second...This corbeau seat says its bottom mount only...Will the brackets work for that? Or are the brackets side mount?
1: if your putting a harness in, then your taking preventive measures to insure your not thrown from the car in case of a rollover etc.
2: if you don't have a cage and just a harness bar then your relying on the roof to not completely collapse on you and if that's the case then the factory belt will heed the same results as a harness without a cage.
3: bolting that shit to the floor is tacky and completely fucking retarded and unsafe read/scroll and have a look Installation- and Operating Instructions (http://www.schroth.com/installation-instructions/en/index.html)
Matej
06-11-2013, 01:23 PM
For a racing seat, you will need a racing car.
SupaDoopa
06-11-2013, 10:51 PM
For a racing seat, you will need a racing car.
I lul'd.
If you're going to half ass it, then don't do it at all. If you want to look dope with a racing seat and mount your dope harness somewhere stupid and get into an accident, you'll probably die.
Step 1: Have a respectable car to your setup in.
Step 2: Have a safety approved seat.
Step 3: Have brackets for said seat.
Step 4: Have approved, non-expired harnesses.
Step 5: Have a proper harness bar to mount said harness.
Step 6: Mount your harness, seat, and brackets.
Veer away from any steps and you're probably going to die.
illvialuver
06-11-2013, 11:03 PM
Have you sat in that seat? You need to sit in the seats you are considering buying. Nothing worse than buying a seat from an online store , then it arives and feels crappy or you dont fit, then you have to pay to return it, and then you have to pay a restocking fee. Just take those into consideration.
89hatchman
06-11-2013, 11:08 PM
Have you sat in that seat? You need to sit in the seats you are considering buying. Nothing worse than buying a seat from an online store , then it arives and feels crappy or you dont fit, then you have to pay to return it, and then you have to pay a restocking fee. Just take those into consideration.
and how exactly am I supposed to try seats out? I can't exactly go down to the racing seat store on the street corner and sit in all their seats.
SupaDoopa
06-11-2013, 11:10 PM
You could always measure yourself and compare them to the measurements that they supply. Every company supplies exact dimensions. Maybe you can sit in friends seats, too. If you don't have a single friend or know someone who has seats, then maybe it's a sign.
89hatchman
06-11-2013, 11:32 PM
You could always measure yourself and compare them to the measurements that they supply. Every company supplies exact dimensions. Maybe you can sit in friends seats, too. If you don't have a single friend or know someone who has seats, then maybe it's a sign.
ha.ha.ha. you're quite the asshole aren't you?
Or u can just read the information that I spoon feed u above and mods can close this shit now
SupaDoopa
06-11-2013, 11:40 PM
ha.ha.ha. you're quite the asshole aren't you?
No. I gave you a little bit of common sense and you had a stupid remark. It's called measurements. That's how seats are put together. Measure yourself, compare it to the measurements of the seat you want, and bam; you've found the seat that'll best suit you.
Before you even think about buying a seat, harness, and brackets, maybe you should invest in a cage with a proper harness bar because if you mount the harness on the floor [as advised more than once], you'll regret it.
It sounds like you're more about budget style anyways so do what you want. We're just advising you how to do it properly, safely, and a way that won't make you look like a complete retard.
And with that, mods: close this shit. It's another one of 'those' threads.
thisisastickup
06-12-2013, 07:33 AM
you guys should see dude's other threads. "is it hard to get good at drifting? is it easy? are some people better than others?" and "i've got no driving experience whatsoever. I've only driven three competitions, how long will it take me to get good at drifting?"
vehicle336
06-12-2013, 12:08 PM
Why do people think harness bars are acceptable?
Not trying to start shit, just wondering where and when it became ok to use a harness bar outside of a slow-speed event like an AutoX.
And OP, Google is your friend.
MamangSorbetero
06-12-2013, 12:20 PM
ha.ha.ha. you're quite the asshole aren't you?
Well dude, keep things in perspective. You're asking a relatively easy question that you could probably answer yourself with a few minutes perusing Google.
Plus if you're asking us how to install a "racing seat" in a "race car" then you're totally fucking doing it wrong bud. Please do some research about safety equipment and the necessity to use such hardware in case of emergency. We don't put Takata harnesses on our S13's to try and pose it off as cool. Let alone use Chinese fake parts such as Circuit Sports seat rails to keep us safe and planted. I'd rather not fly out my car thanks :duh:
Stick to OEM for now as it can actually save your ass. Later add a bucket seat that is FIA-approved with known-good rails such as Bride/Buddy Club/Sparco. Worry about harnesses when you need it; you'll know when you do
240boi115
06-12-2013, 02:01 PM
i heard s14 seats add 15 hp on an s13 and are better than buckets/ racing seats.. lol xD
Why do people think harness bars are acceptable?
Not trying to start shit, just wondering where and when it became ok to use a harness bar outside of a slow-speed event like an AutoX.
And OP, Google is your friend.
who said it was? harness bars are stupid and uh safe via my link
Rustys14
06-12-2013, 08:28 PM
I'm not sure if anybody mentioned this or not since I only skimmed the thread but the forza seat you are looking at is bottom mount and the rail that you have posted is for sidemount seats. Its best to stay away from bottom mount seats like the forza because they tend to sit high in our cars. Since you are looking for a cheap seat I would check out the buddy club seats since they are the about cheapest sidemount seats that I would trust.
Also like others have said I strongly advise against running a harness without a cage. Not only is it unsafe to have mounted at the wrong angle but it is also dangerous to have (even with a harness bar) in the off chance that you roll your car because you can't duck down like you can with OEM belts. Just some food for thought.
nizmo_bro
06-15-2013, 04:07 PM
Take it from my brother, the crash test dummy. It is better to at least have a harness bar in case of a crash.
First time he crashed, he had racing harnesses connected right to the floor. Killed his back. Next time he had an accident, he had a harness bar, and it at least didn't make him bed ridden for a week.
If you ever happen to check out Formula D, they usually have multiple seat manufacturers there with seats for you to try out. Some can be really tight and uncomfortable. I am very skinny and found some seats to be very confining.
I don't know what you will be doing with your car, but if you are racing, a lot of places will require a roll cage. If you want racing seats just for looks, just forget about the harnesses and stick to stock seatbelts.
89hatchman
06-15-2013, 11:04 PM
I'm not sure if anybody mentioned this or not since I only skimmed the thread but the forza seat you are looking at is bottom mount and the rail that you have posted is for sidemount seats. Its best to stay away from bottom mount seats like the forza because they tend to sit high in our cars. Since you are looking for a cheap seat I would check out the buddy club seats since they are the about cheapest sidemount seats that I would trust.
Also like others have said I strongly advise against running a harness without a cage. Not only is it unsafe to have mounted at the wrong angle but it is also dangerous to have (even with a harness bar) in the off chance that you roll your car because you can't duck down like you can with OEM belts. Just some food for thought.
Thanks for the advice, I ended up getting an OMP seat with buddy club rails. I need the bucket-y seat for the bracing, so I guess I'll stick with OEM seat belts for now...
Take it from my brother, the crash test dummy. It is better to at least have a harness bar in case of a crash.
First time he crashed, he had racing harnesses connected right to the floor. Killed his back. Next time he had an accident, he had a harness bar, and it at least didn't make him bed ridden for a week.
If you ever happen to check out Formula D, they usually have multiple seat manufacturers there with seats for you to try out. Some can be really tight and uncomfortable. I am very skinny and found some seats to be very confining.
I don't know what you will be doing with your car, but if you are racing, a lot of places will require a roll cage. If you want racing seats just for looks, just forget about the harnesses and stick to stock seatbelts.
man, I'd love to go to a formula D event but I don't have the money or the time to do so. I want a racing/bucket seat for drifting. They'll let me use a stock seat but I find myself bracing myself with my knees and it kills it after an afternoon of drifting.
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